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S3 E36 - A Celebration of Life · The Steve & Jeff Show

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  SPEAKER_01: And now, here's Steve and Jeff.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, hey Johnny, thank you for getting us into the show, and what a great night to be back here.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Jeff, how's it going?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had a death in the family.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, so that sort of has put a damper on things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, but he was he was a good friend.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was actually my my wife's uncle.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I met him.
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  SPEAKER_02: I met him.
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  SPEAKER_02: I remember him.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I knew him a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he was 96 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be weird, Steve.
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw Sam a lot during the last year, and he was in a retirement community.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it it just feels like there's something missing now in my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I knew him a little bit, and I know he meant a lot to to you and Kathy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I bet it's been hard.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, when when people get older, that people say that you know you expect them to die at some point, but you know, even if you expect it generally, uh you didn't know it'd be right now.
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  SPEAKER_03: So right, so it's still a shock.
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  SPEAKER_03: Almost like you think it can't happen here, and then it happens, you know, it isn't easier, is it?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not, and I know no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I knew Sam for most of my life when you add up the years.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I loved him and respected him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I was trying to think of a way to honor him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when I was at the funeral, I thought about maybe I would speak, but you know, I'm not the I'm not a relative, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm yeah, it's Kathy's uncle, not mine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big Irish family.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was at the back of the line, you know, by the time that they got to everybody else, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it would have been uh a really long funeral.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's hard when you don't get that closure, you don't get that completion, you don't get that comeuppance.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe, Jeff, maybe we could honor him here on the show by talking about what his life was like and what he stood for, you know, as a father, as a friend, as a phrenologist.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, I mean, as a person, he was obviously a great American.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was a classic, really.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, as I remember him, just he was kind of a classic guy, almost almost a relic, you know, wouldn't you say?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I would.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess he would be an antique.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I think if there's a way that we could honor him, I would really like that, Steve.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you have a suggestion on how to do that?
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe a good place to start is what would he have enjoyed?
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  SPEAKER_03: For example, was he a fan of the show?
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I met him a little bit, but I we never talked about that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Did he did he listen?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, he used to always ask me are you still doing that radio show?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, he was 96, so I think in his mind there was no such thing as a right podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Podcast is radio.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, and and podcast is kind of radio.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, but but I digress.
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  SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: The one thing that would have made Sam happy is to hear a joke.
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  SPEAKER_00: He loved jokes, it was like his favorite thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of the times I would tell him the same joke over and over again, and then he would repeat that joke to other people, and he had a favorite joke.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, do you do you want to hear it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think that'd be a great way to begin our celebration of life for him.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's actually a joke, Steve, that we used on this show at one time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And well, he I he must listen then.
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  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: That it very well could be, you know, with our jokes, a lot of times we we make it personal.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I would tell him the joke, I would make it about him or about Kathy and I.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, in this joke, it was about being in Vegas, which we would go to Vegas with Sam uh pretty often.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like one of his favorite places.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was heading down to the to the casino floor and I hop into the elevator, and there's a woman in the elevator, and you know, she's dressed like she might be a a woman of the night, a lady of the night.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I look at her as a- You know this was the morning, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: She might have just finished getting off work, I'm not sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: But so wait, so this is the one where she asked you if you're having a good time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and she said, Would you like to have a better time?
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  SPEAKER_00: And and and I said, Well, how much would that cost?
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  SPEAKER_00: And she said, you know, I think that you know, they wonder if you're a policeman or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she said, Well, what are you offering me?
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, I have$20.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she laughed and said, I wouldn't do anything for$20.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's an insult.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the elevator opened and and that was it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the next day, I get on the elevator again, and there she is again.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I say hi to her, and she says hi, and she asks if I'm having a good time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And was this February 2nd by any chance?
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  SPEAKER_00: This was February 2nd.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it was, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she asked if I've been winning, you know, I think probably implying maybe I would have more money.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she said, uh, you know, are you interested in in making a friend?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_00: What would it cost?
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  SPEAKER_00: And she says, Well, make me an offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, you know, I offer you$20.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty much all I have.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she says, I'm not doing anything for$20.
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  SPEAKER_00: Elevator opens and she leaves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the next day, the next morning, Kathy and I were heading downstairs for breakfast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we get in the elevator, and there she is again.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she takes a look at us and she leans over to me and she says, That's what you get for$20.
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  SPEAKER_03: I bet Sam is laughing from above.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, hopefully from above, you know, if you know what I mean.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I think he will be.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was a good man.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the funeral was great.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like I said, a lot of people spoke.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really liked the speech made by his daughter, Mary.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, they printed out that speech.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of the the speech went to some people in Ireland.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sam was from Ireland originally.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so they printed it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I don't think they sent you a copy of it because I was so impressed.
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  SPEAKER_03: He sounded amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe as part of the celebration of life, we can read some of the highlights.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think that we'd be doing a real service to our audience and to and to Sam by letting our audience know what the world has lost.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would really appreciate that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know this we're we're not doing what we typically do on the show, and I'm a little lower energy, but you know, when it comes to losing uncle, I just feel like this is a really good way to honor him.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you don't mind, I'm a little emotional.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you maybe could sort of uh look at the the information, I have it too, and I can contribute when I can.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, if you don't mind taking the lead on this, oh not at all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I'll start with where he came from, as you say.
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  SPEAKER_03: He according to Mary, and you just were saying this too.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was an immigrant who came over on the boat from Ireland.
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  SPEAKER_03: I imagine back when he did that, I bet that was a tough ride.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he used to talk about everyone throwing up and getting sick.
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  SPEAKER_00: They would all be down in the bottom of the bottom of the ship of the boat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know what that's called, but uh, yeah, everybody would get sick.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in his mind, as he would always say, is you know, it was always worth it because he was going somewhere to make a life for himself.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, and you know, he was just one of a lot of people that came over that that same way.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, in fact, just about all of us have ancestors that came to this country from places that didn't want us because we looked wrong or we prayed wrong or we thought wrong, or you know, they just didn't want us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some didn't speak the language.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, most came without a penny.
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  SPEAKER_03: And talk about coming the right way.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, that's the people talk about that now.
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  SPEAKER_03: The right way back then was the way my grandfather came over.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here's what he did.
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  SPEAKER_03: He snuck across a border, somehow got onto a ship in Hamburg, Germany, and wow, landed at Ellis Island, and somehow talked his way to Illinois, although he didn't speak English.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I wish he was still around so I could ask him, How'd how'd you do that?
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  SPEAKER_03: But now, Sam, lucky enough, he knew the language.
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  SPEAKER_03: I and I don't mean Irish Gaelic.
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  SPEAKER_03: He knew the other language that they speak over there, you know, the one we're speaking right now.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: From what you've said, and from what I know, it sounds like he didn't have any other real skills and not much education.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's hard to believe that really that they allowed him to come here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Although I have heard that some with no skills can get an Einstein visa if they've worked in certain, shall we say, leisure service industries, kind of like your joke.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: You know, but but I digress.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh sounds like we've sounds like back then we must have had some really dumb presidents, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I guess, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And my relatives came over a little bit earlier than Sam did, and they didn't speak a word of English.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: They left because they weren't wanted wherever they came from, and they felt threatened.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: And America stood for an opportunity for freedom and a place to start a family and to start your life and and to feel safe that you could go somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things have changed so much since then.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, today we still open our arms to immigrants who maybe are are Russian or maybe, maybe from the Scandinavian countries, as long as they leave all that national health service stuff back at the end of and they and they give us Greenland.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they give us Greenland, yeah.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: But uh if they do all that, then we're here for you.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_03: Got to admit, the world is different than it was when Sam was was doing all this, and you know, the people want to come here today are completely different too.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Look at Canada, our new enemy to the north here.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know, did you know that Canada used to have an open borders policy?
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  SPEAKER_03: And that uh you can imagine that led to thousands of Irish coming to their country during the famine.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know, more Irish.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: What were they thinking?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: How stupid was that to let those people come over and take everyone else's jobs?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly, because hey, everybody wanted to go out and build railroads, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in fact, more Irish came to Canada than to any other country in the world except for the US.
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  SPEAKER_03: But again, that's back when we had stupid presidents and they they let starving people into the country, people that really needed help, you know.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when Russia tortured and killed Jews in Ukraine and really all over Eastern Europe, all over Russia, Mexico welcomed them, welcomed Jews to their country, start a new life.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you, Canada and Mexico sure have changed, not like us, though, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and and in fairness, I mean, uh, the whole world has changed, you know.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Back then, Mexico and Canada, they were shithole countries.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, back then.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, they didn't have anything to lose.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, they let people, anybody come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think America would have done you know more of that, but people thought that by sharing the wealth of this country with foreigners, that would take away from their own wealth.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they were right that you know that that at the end of the day, you never want to share anything with anybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's sort of the rule.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: You protect yourself, and even though our families came over from other countries, that doesn't mean you have to be nice to the next group, you know, that they're completely different.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're not us, right?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't affect me personally, so hey, you know, yeah, and and there's only one Germany.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: There was only one Germany in World War II, right?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, now when they say that they're escaping South America, come on, that's not real.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's not true, you know.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, if you're if there's unless Hitler relocated, well, you know, there is all that theory about Argentina and all, you know, you've heard that, haven't you?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, but thank God we have a king that is, you know, not putting up with all that nonsense anymore.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_03: Daddy King.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: You're talking about sharing the wealth, it's just it's just simple mathematics.
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  SPEAKER_03: If I've got a million dollars and I pay somebody a dollar, I don't have a million dollars anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So why should we let people in that are gonna take away from my million dollars?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, and it's it's so logical.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, it's it's just math, you know.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, when you look at life here in America, you know, Sam, bless his heart, as they might say down south, he probably didn't fit in anymore, you know.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I guess you could say he outlived his coverage, so to speak, you know.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's take a look at what else Mary said about her dad.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, being 96, I mean, he had a long life.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's let's see what she highlighted here.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, let's see.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: He was he was a union member with a pension.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you don't see many of those anymore.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, that really doesn't fit in.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's isn't that a euphemism for not working?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: So and pensions.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Who deserves a pension?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody deserves a pension.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not paying you.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then I have to pay a pension as well.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, please, come on.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't make any sense.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, this it's just not fair to billionaires, you know what I mean?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: He worked at the same company for over 30 years.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, that's not a way to build your skill base, Sam.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta tell you.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, kind of implies that he's kind of a little bit of a loser by doing it.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna stay with the same company, what what is that's loyalty?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't even know if that exists anymore, and it should exist.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and this one you know, Mary was saying that he had great empathy.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there you go.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: Sam, you left just in time because empathy, empathy is gonna be illegal soon.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: And should be.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a sin.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: We know Vice President Musk came out and said that that was the that will do in a country is empathy.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes, absolutely.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So he's right about that.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of amazing.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: We're going through this list, and you know, Sam was such a good guy, but yeah, pretty much did everything wrong, or at least back in the old days, they did everything wrong.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know, in the old days when I think America was supposed to be better, but you know, and you know, and Mary went on to say uh he thought people from other countries and cultures were just as good as he was.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: And in fact, you know, I know I happen to know that he loved the mix of cultures that you see in in the United States and a lot of cities.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: He really loved that.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I actually saw him one time eating at Fa King.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh if you knew that, you weren't there.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: I was just walking, I was getting some carry out to bring back to Theresa, and I there he was.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: He was sitting in there eating, eating at Fa King.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and I'm not saying that I don't want to paint a negative picture about the United States because we also respect other people's cultures.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I'm I'm shopping for Swedish, I don't know, silverware or something like that.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_03: Swedish fish, you know, the Swedish fish.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm open to Dutch or Norwegian products.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, one person's blue eyes and blonde hair.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: To me, they don't all have to look exactly the same.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I think I think we're we accept diversity here.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, just the other day I was in a bakery and I saw this pastry, and I said, Oh, is that a Danish?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: And they the lady said, No, we're from Finland.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: I was ecumenical.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: I thought, well, okay, I'll take that.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: I accept that.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_03: I that's just how we are.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: I know Sam defended our country in war, even though at that time he wasn't a citizen.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know why he would do that.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why why anybody would defend our country, you know.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: Suckers and losers, that's well, that's that's that's what we hear.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, absolutely.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't make any sense to me.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: He believed in kindness and respect, even for those who didn't show it to him.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, bad enough that he believes in kindness and respect because those are gone.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: But kindness and respect for those who don't show it to him.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean was a Frank Capra movie here or something.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: What do we do?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: What are we doing?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I don't know how Sam could end up being the kind of good person he was with all of these bad qualities.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's well, and and Mary really stresses in this that he didn't hate.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: And then she you know, she amends that a little bit.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: She says, Well, he hated Nazis, okay.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: But other than that, other than that, he didn't hate.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, he even owned a Japanese car, despite the fact that he fought in the Pacific in World War II.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: He said, uh, long time ago, different people, different country.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, I don't care.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's a nice car.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: That was Sam got over it, you know, and like wow.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that he got over stuff like that is is not that's not very not very modern, not very today.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: No, not at all.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, boy, she really was proud that he stood by his friends when they had problems.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't see that anymore, and for good reason, yeah.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lost skill, yeah.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing with the million dollars giving a dollar to somebody.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you are showing compassion to other people, that takes your compassion away from you.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: You lose some of that, right?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: You need to hold on to that for yourself, not even your own family, because you know, I'm gonna be honest, your own family, they're kind of leeches a lot, you know.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna be they're the worst a lot of times.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: No, you got to keep that compassion for yourself.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: You got to compass yourself, so to speak.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's self-compassion, right?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: You should feel you know, support yourself.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, another one.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this is so that's like a walk down nostalgia lane, which is right by memory lane, by the way.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: But uh it's and there and there's 18th Avenue is in between, so it's a real mess and rush hour.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: But he believed that people's personal lives should be their own business.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's just wrong.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we can't have that.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: We got to know what everybody's doing, right?
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's that's half the fun.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and it there used to be a time, I think he lived in a time where you could keep your own business private, but now as soon as something happens to you, it's on Facebook or it's on YouTube channel, and and it should be because they need to investigate that kind of stuff.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: When things happen to you, it has to be approved by the king.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you just can't do stuff on your own anymore.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: That oh no, that's no, because because doing stuff on your own, what if somebody wants to do something that Daddy King doesn't like?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we can't have that.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and she talked about, you know, he she talked about these trips that they would take when she was a kid.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they loved our national parks and our protected nature spaces.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: In spite of the fact that he probably knew he was standing on a bunch of oil when he was like fishing and gazing out there.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we have zoos, and when I say zoos, I don't mean zoos that are like part of the city.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about private zoos, you know, people, yeah, you know, endangered species in their backyard.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Those are like zoos, they charge you a certain fee, and you get to go and like Charles Foster Kane, you know?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: Largest private zoo since Noah.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, McDonald Jr., right?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he could start a zoo with all the animals that he has killed.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he could start a zoo with all the animals that he knows.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: But I digress.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and he believed in science and logic, and he really valued education, even though he didn't have a lot of education himself.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: He really valued education.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: I bet he wouldn't have told a major college what to not to teach or what not to let students do.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: How naive he was.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's how we get that's how we get into trouble.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is, and and he used to always talk about being proud of our schools like Harvard and Yale and you know, the smart people.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, and even though he he could never afford to to go there and he didn't have the academic background, he always had respect for the top institutions of education, and that's was just naive and foolish because we all know that they're the enemies, they are just like Canada.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, right.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: They are they're the worst.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's no reason to respect them at all.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, getting people to think on their own?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, no, no, no.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: We can't have that.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's dangerous.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_03: They have to do what Big Daddy tells them, you know.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: Mary, Mary's going on here, and and Mary, wow, Sam thought that his religion was private, and he wanted others to practice their own faith freely.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: Private.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what good is religion if you don't beat a drum and do it on the street corner?
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, like just read about the Pharisees.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on, that's what you're supposed to do, right?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I remember he was a very religious man.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Sam was, yeah.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: But how can you be religious if you're not trying to force other people into your religion?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's an important part of it.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you're all if you're private about it, then it doesn't mean you're you're proud of it.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean that you're making a contribution, you're not doing anything to promote your religion by just following it.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: I bet he actually even believed that someone else freely exercising a different religion than his.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: I bet he believed that that wasn't an infringement on his rights.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's so he just naive.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's the last century.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: What else do you say?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: He fought for everyone's right to speak, even if he disagreed.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's just wrong.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I do I need to explain why we can't have everybody speaking?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know I I I remember saying to him at one point if you could you should be able to speak your mind and then be deported for it.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you're a citizen, you should still leave the country if once you have spoken your mind.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Because words have got that.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Because words have consequences for some people.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: Depends on the words.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: If you have the right opinion, you have no consequences for anything.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: But if you have the wrong opinion, oh boy, oh you better you are gonna have consequences for that.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: And he thought, I remember him being so proud of being a citizen.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, you know, and that was so yesterday, because now you can be a citizen and have that taken away from you.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't think he ever quite knew that.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's best that he isn't around for that because yeah, you know, some of the things that he believed in, that empathy stuff will get you deported every time.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's really sad too that he died so close to his birthday.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because I know he was he was born on the 4th of July.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: Sam had a lot of trouble in recent years, and some people a lot of people called him woke and said he was just the EI, you know, depressed entity inside.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: But he never faltered.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: His spirit never faltered.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what a what a guy.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of the last of a generation, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: The last of an era.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: We should give him a toast.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a really good idea.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: He was Irish, and maybe we can hold up a glass or a couple glasses or a six-pack or a case of something.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: Shall we?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Checking my sound here.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yes, Jeff, I think that's a great idea.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think that I think it's a tremendous idea.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: I was in uh radio limbo there for a second, but uh podcast limbo if you want to call it that.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: But well, as I said, I think we should uh raise a glass or a case or a pint or yeah, I don't know.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: What I got a I got rubbing alcohol or well, I got a gallon pretty close.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_03: I got a gallon of pop-ov that Johnny brought the other day.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, good.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_03: So it's sitting right behind me here.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, let's let it rip.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: So this is an Irish blessing.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, okay.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it goes something like this May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be always at your back, may the sun shine warm upon your face, the rains fall soft upon your fields, and until we meet again, may God hold you in its palm in his palm of his hand.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Here's to you, Uncle Sam, our deal ye.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: Sam, it was a good run.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry to see you go.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm gonna miss you, dude.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh me too.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_03: Me too.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I and I didn't even really know him that well.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: I can literally say I hardly knew ye, because I I did hardly knew ye, but but but you know I have anything more.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I have a feeling everybody kind of knew what Sam was like at one point or another.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we've forgotten.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think we I think I think you're right.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think we knew, but we forgot that we knew.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Steve.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for doing this.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, glad to do it.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: Usually it's a lighter subject that we're doing, but I think I think given the circumstances, this is this was the right show to do tonight.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: If I promise Johnny to give him some of this pop-off, I bet he'll get us out of this show.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, Johnny, a drink's in it for you, so get us out of this show.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right, Steve.
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• 26:14
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• 26:18
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• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: I can't believe Steve asked if I would do the closing for a drink.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'd do just about anything for a drink.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: Why, making a drink and some autograph merchandise made in China, and I'd take health insurance away from 17 million people, just like I was in Congress or something.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: Good night.