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AEW Hot Topics | Dynamite 300 Preview & Predictions · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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Speaker 1: Ten nine Ignition six five four three two one zero,
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Speaker 1: All engine running.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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Speaker 2: Ignition with the aw fan Hub community podcast team. This
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Speaker 2: is Kelson and Tonight we have got Dynamite three hundred.
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Speaker 2: Can't believe that it's been three hundred matches, three hundred
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Speaker 2: episodes of Dynamite, three hundred matches. I think it's been
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Speaker 2: a little bit more than that. How's everybody doing tonight?
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Speaker 3: Great?
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Speaker 2: Right, Let's yeah, let's yeah, let's let's talk about this show.
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Speaker 2: We usually don't do previews, but this is a big deal.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the match card. There's only what
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Speaker 2: three matches announced really right now, but they're all something
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Speaker 2: and the first one we're going to talk about is
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Speaker 2: Mercedes Monet and Mina shir Kaala for the AW TBS Championship.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're only what ten days away from all
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Speaker 2: in and we're having a championship match. Guys, do any
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Speaker 2: of you give Mina shir Kaala a chance at winning
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Speaker 2: the TBS Championship? Tonight? I knew that was Steve. Steve,
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Speaker 2: why do you give her? Give Mina a chance? I
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Speaker 2: think it's time for money to lose a belt. All right,
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Speaker 2: all right, I'm sore you posted something earlier about the
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Speaker 2: CMLL Championship that Mercedes just won with zeus Is. Could
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Speaker 2: you share that with people that that maybe didn't hear
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Speaker 2: what what you posted?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Zeuxi's just had meniscus surgery. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 4: her time is out. I think it's kind of up
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Speaker 4: in the air right now, but I guess she had
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Speaker 4: been working with an injury, so maybe that's part of
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Speaker 4: the reason why they decided to switch. H that's the
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Speaker 4: MLLL belt. But yeah, on the topic, I'm gonna I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna go ahead on a limb and say that Mina
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Speaker 4: pulls the Christian like upset over Kenny Omega with the
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Speaker 4: Impact title and actually wins the title tomorrow just because
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Speaker 4: number one, they've already faced each other a couple of
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Speaker 4: times this year. Seems like a possibility of creating a
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Speaker 4: lot of intrigue. Nina's a good matchup for a lot
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Speaker 4: of the rosters. She's really easy to work. All you
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Speaker 4: have to do is bump. Mercedes is certainly not so. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and also I think it creates more intrigue going into
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Speaker 4: all in.
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Speaker 5: I think she doesn't have that main belt.
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Speaker 2: They faced each other. Mina and Mercedes faced each other
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Speaker 2: on January fifth. I believe it was at Russell Dream
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Speaker 2: in Japan. Was that that's correct? Right? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: They also had the three way and I think it
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Speaker 4: was Los Angeles for where Mercedes lost the new Japan title.
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Speaker 4: Mina got pinned by a Zumi?
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Speaker 2: Right? But did that match on January fifth? Correct me
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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong? Isn't that also the match that was
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Speaker 2: title versus title? Was it not? That's where Mercedes actually
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Speaker 2: won the British World Championship Queen the south Side, Yeah right, Jess,
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Speaker 2: you said that you had your pick. What do you think?
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Speaker 6: Y'all's optimism? But I don't think it's gonna happen. I
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Speaker 6: think AW spent way too much time cultivating this Tony
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Speaker 6: versus Mona match, and I don't think the plans are
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Speaker 6: going to It'd be an interesting surprise, but I don't
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Speaker 6: think it's gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's go to you.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say she is because it's Dynamite three hundred
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Speaker 3: something big has to happen. They are a pretty good
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Speaker 3: go so I don't see why not. Uh it would
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Speaker 3: be a good gateway for her to start losing belots
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Speaker 3: and for her to go a little bit crazy, and
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Speaker 3: it would pitch up the match better.
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Speaker 2: I would say that, Yeah, yeah, what about you, Sutton.
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Speaker 7: I kind of agree with what MK said there at
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Speaker 7: the end, But I don't see her losing it. It's
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Speaker 7: just they like I said before, I said it a
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Speaker 7: dozen times, Tony Cohn's not going to have her to
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Speaker 7: lose until she breaks the number of matches.
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Speaker 5: Won in a row by uh Cardio. It's just not
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Speaker 5: gonna happen.
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Speaker 7: I don't even think she's gonna lose to Tony.
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Speaker 1: Oh don't.
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Speaker 5: Okay, No, I don't wonder to win.
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Speaker 6: Oh.
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Speaker 7: I wanted to lose all the belts as soon as
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Speaker 7: possible because she needs to.
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Speaker 5: But it's just that's.
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Speaker 7: Tony's got it in his head that that's what he's
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Speaker 7: gonna do, and I'm Tony, that's what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 5: At least that's the way I see it.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw something at you
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Speaker 2: guys really quick, and I'm gonna give you a history lesson.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow your minds. This is dynamite three hundred,
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Speaker 2: which was preceded by Dynamite two fifty, and that was
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Speaker 2: preceded by Dynamite two hundred. Okay, Now, Dynamite two hundred
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Speaker 2: happened on August second, twenty twenty three. The main event
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Speaker 2: of that show, maybe you remember it was Timeless Tone,
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Speaker 2: not Timeless. It was Tony Storman with the Outcast at
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Speaker 2: that time, against Karl Sheeta for the AW Women's World Championship.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember who won that match? Tony Carlosheda won
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Speaker 2: that won that match. This was Dynamite two hundred. Karlsheda
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Speaker 2: wins the match. Now here's the thing. This match took place,
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Speaker 2: Oh god, what was it twenty five days before the
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Speaker 2: first all In at Wembley Stadium. Kakarlsheda only held that
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Speaker 2: belt for twenty five days. We know what happened at
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Speaker 2: all In at Wembley Stadium because Soireya won the title. Now,
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Speaker 2: now Sirea only held the title for well for forty
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Speaker 2: four days and then lost the title back to Kikarusheeda.
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Speaker 2: But right there is proof that something big will happen
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Speaker 2: at Dynamite three hundred. Do you want more proof, Let's
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Speaker 2: look at Dynamite two fifty. Dynamite two fifty featured a
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Speaker 2: w International champion, Will Ospray against defending his championship against MJF.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember who won that match? Osprey. MJF defeated
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Speaker 2: Will Osprey became the new International champion, went he held
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Speaker 2: the title for thirty nine days, went to Wembley Stadium
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Speaker 2: and lost to I think it was Yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: back to will Ospray, I believe, and then Osprey eventually
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Speaker 2: lost at the Takeshta for Takesha's one. The thing I'm
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Speaker 2: saying here is that the precedence is there. This match
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Speaker 2: between Mercedes Money and Mina Shirkaw is the only match
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Speaker 2: on the Dynamite three hundred card that has a title
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Speaker 2: associated with I believe that Mina does defeat Mercedes Monet
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Speaker 2: becomes the new TBS champion at Dynamite three hundred, and
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Speaker 2: I think this is a good move because look, as
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Speaker 2: Thomas war said, I don't believe that Mercedes Mona was
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Speaker 2: ever supposed to win the CMLL Women's title. Was kind
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Speaker 2: of done by necessity, you know what I mean. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: I just really think that Mercedes is going to lose
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Speaker 2: the TBS title at Dynamite three hundred, and it's good storytelling. Look,
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Speaker 2: let's assume that Mercedes. Let's just say hypothetically, the Mercedes
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Speaker 2: beats Mina sheer Cow at Tynamite three hundred, goes on
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Speaker 2: to all In, and then we have Mercedes against Tony Storm.
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Speaker 2: Whoever wins that match, Who's who's left to face them?
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Speaker 2: There's nobody left. They've got to do something to shake
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Speaker 2: things up here. They got to shake it up exactly.
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Speaker 7: I agree, one hundred percent. But Tony Kahn not always
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Speaker 7: had the greatest track record of shaking things up the
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Speaker 7: way you think he should. So, like I said, I'd
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Speaker 7: love to see Mina win the title, I'd like to
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Speaker 7: see Tony Keith the title it all in.
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Speaker 5: I just I just got this feeling that he's.
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Speaker 7: Done everything to make sure that Mina or that Monette
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Speaker 7: has a spotless record and gets every title she gets
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Speaker 7: a chance at. So I just I don't know, I
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Speaker 7: just see him keeping it on her.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense for me to have her win
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Speaker 3: Tony Storm. I mean, you don't. There's a b big,
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Speaker 3: this big, huge feud and then have Tony Storm loose
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Speaker 3: because no, I mean, the more and plus this is
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Speaker 3: something that she's always always one. It was a few
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Speaker 3: between these two. I think she's willing to put over Monet,
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Speaker 3: so we'll we'll see what happens. But I disagree with Sutton.
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Speaker 2: The thing that I can say is that if we
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Speaker 2: do see what we do see Mercedes versus Tony Storm,
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Speaker 2: do you guys, I'm just gonna throw it out there
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Speaker 2: to you guys, do you see this as a one
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Speaker 2: and done match or do you could kind of see
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Speaker 2: you know, Mercedes born A versus Tony Storm one, two
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Speaker 2: and three.
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Speaker 6: I think it all depends on how this goes over.
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Speaker 6: Like if they jel really well and have like an
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Speaker 6: amazing match that tears the house down, I don't see
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Speaker 6: any reason not to run it back. But if it
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Speaker 6: just turns out that it just sort of underperforms, I mean,
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Speaker 6: I don't think it'll be a horrible match, just given
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Speaker 6: how good the two of them are, But sometimes people
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Speaker 6: just don't gell and them. That's okay, But.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree. I don't, but I don't
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Speaker 3: see it as good as it was with Mariah ma
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Speaker 3: A and Antony'stim. Those two had chemistry. I don't see
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Speaker 3: Monette having chemistry. Many people and.
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Speaker 8: In a w right now, I was thinking maybe the
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Speaker 8: next person in line would be Megan Baine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've already done that.
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Speaker 7: The only person on the roster that Monett seems to
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Speaker 7: have unbelievable chemistry with is hardly That's it.
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Speaker 5: Everybody else she seems to, you know, it's.
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Speaker 2: It almost.
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Speaker 5: Maybe Artie could be the one that could take it
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Speaker 5: off her, but then, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well let me throw this at you, Sutton. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Regardless of wins the Storm and More Mercedes Monette match,
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Speaker 2: we also have to take into account that the loser
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Speaker 2: of that match may then go on to get a
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Speaker 2: tag team partner and become very much in play for
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Speaker 2: the aw's women's tag team titles, which I think is
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Speaker 2: a foregone conclusion right now that that's going to happen
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Speaker 2: very very soon.
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Speaker 7: Oh, you're completely right, and and that would be a
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Speaker 7: very interesting way to do things.
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Speaker 5: It's just it's one of those things.
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Speaker 7: Where it is very there's a lot of what could
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Speaker 7: what could happen, what might not happen, what could happen,
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Speaker 7: you know, that kind of thing. This is one of
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Speaker 7: those coming up matches the next ten days It's really
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Speaker 7: kind of intriguing because you.
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Speaker 5: Really don't know what's going to happen in that match.
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Speaker 7: Going into matches in the past, we've known, you know,
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Speaker 7: we pretty much get figure out who's going to be.
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Speaker 7: There's no clue this could go either way. So at
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Speaker 7: least that's one thing that's different about all In for
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Speaker 7: this match especially.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the other things, and this is kind
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Speaker 2: of a little bit off topic, but I think that
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Speaker 2: it is pertinent. Suri from Stardom has announced that she
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Speaker 2: is taking an excursion from stardom and basically going to
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Speaker 2: the United States. Well, she didn't say the United States.
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Speaker 2: She set overseas to better herself, which is kind of
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Speaker 2: a ridiculous statement because Suri has got almost seventeen years
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Speaker 2: worth of wrestling experience. It was sureI that defeated Mayu Iwatani,
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Speaker 2: and I believe it was April, ending Mayuatani's two year
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Speaker 2: title reign with the IWGP Women's Championship, which had previously
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Speaker 2: been held by Mercedes Monet h At previous to that
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Speaker 2: by Carrie Sane. Serie did beat Sury last month forty
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Speaker 2: IWGP champions so Sure he had a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a shorter reign. She does have a couple of nagging
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Speaker 2: injuries that she's got to battle through. Nothing serious for
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Speaker 2: what I read, but sure he is going overseas for
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Speaker 2: an excursion. Sure he is. One of her last matches
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Speaker 2: with the title, the i w GP title was in
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Speaker 2: England against Alex Windsor. She defended successfully against Alex Windsor.
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Speaker 2: She has history with her former tag team partner, Surrey's
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Speaker 2: former championship tag team partner, Hikaru Shida. There's a team
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Speaker 2: right there for you. If she does on her way
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Speaker 2: back and she got she at her visa taken care of,
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Speaker 2: there's another team Shida and Surrey. Holy shit, you know,
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Speaker 2: so the ball's rolling. Plus you gotta look at shry
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Speaker 2: I mean, seventeen years of wrestling experience, former IWGP champion,
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Speaker 2: former World of Stardom champion, which is the Stardom's World champion.
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Speaker 2: She's no joke. She's not one of those cute little Joshies.
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Speaker 2: She's one of those I'm gonna kill you Josie's. She's
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Speaker 2: like Samoa, Joe and Joshi Born. So keep that in mind.
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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of cool stuff that can happen, starting
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Speaker 2: with Mina Sirkawa Mercedes Monet at Dynamite three hundred. I
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Speaker 2: am convinced. I am one hundred percent convinced, not one
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Speaker 2: hundred I'd say about eighty five percent convinced that meeting
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Speaker 2: Shikawa is walking out of Dynamite three hundred is the
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Speaker 2: new AWTBS Champion because I just think that opens up
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Speaker 2: so many doors for story elsewhere with Mercedes and even
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Speaker 2: Tony Storm and some of these women that are coming in,
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Speaker 2: like Alex Winsor. Now think about it, Mina shir Kawa
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Speaker 2: wins the TBS Championship on July second, Forbidden Door at
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Speaker 2: the O two Arena is right around the corner. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's next month who won the rep Pro title and
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Speaker 2: the Queen of Southside title in England. Minashira Kawa, She's
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Speaker 2: known there, She's appreciated there. Alex Winsor absolutely appreciated there.
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Speaker 2: There's your match for Forbidden Door may even throw you know,
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Speaker 2: somebody else in. I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I think I think one of the things that we
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Speaker 7: need to look at and say this year is everybody
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Speaker 7: always saying that Forbidden Door season is the time where
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Speaker 7: AW takes a break from things. But if you look
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Speaker 7: at it the way you can. With everything that's going
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Speaker 7: on right now, there are so many storylines that could
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Speaker 7: come out after all in leading to Forbidden Door, that
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Speaker 7: this might be one of the most interesting Forbidden Doors
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Speaker 7: they've ever had.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean I wanted to want to
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Speaker 2: call the Forbidden Door seasons the great momentum Killers. I mean,
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Speaker 2: AW gets on a roll, and AW is on a
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Speaker 2: roll right now, yep, okay, And my biggest worry is
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Speaker 2: that after all in for the next month or so,
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Speaker 2: AW is going to concentrate. I'm building up Forbidden Door,
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Speaker 2: which doesn't need any building up. I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: It's a glorified exhibition show. You don't need to. You
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Speaker 2: stay the course, do your storylines, and continue what you're doing.
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Speaker 2: People are gonna watch for Bidden Door, not for I
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Speaker 2: don't think any kind of build up towards Forbidden Door
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Speaker 2: unless it's for a major championship, you know. I just
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Speaker 2: don't think that you need to do build I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you guys agree with me or not. I
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Speaker 2: just don't think you need to spend that time building
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Speaker 2: up for Bidden Door. You're either gonna buy it or
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Speaker 2: you're not.
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Speaker 7: I think the thing is with this year, you actually
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Speaker 7: have storylines that can build to that and not lose
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Speaker 7: momentum because after the Kenny Omega match and Okata, then
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Speaker 7: you've got Daquesta and you've got other people that you
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Speaker 7: could face it Forbidden Door that would not take it
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Speaker 7: out of the story.
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Speaker 5: Like you said, You've got.
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Speaker 7: Mina and that whole thing for the uh TBS title.
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Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot you could still build towards
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Speaker 7: Forbidden Door without causing any momentum change, and it, like
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Speaker 7: I said, it could be the most exciting Forbidden Door
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Speaker 7: we've ever had because it's in London.
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Speaker 2: And if you have met to Shirakawa, go at the
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Speaker 2: Forbidden Door as the TBS champion. There's all kinds of
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Speaker 2: rivalries that she has built at startup that makes sense,
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Speaker 2: you know for a match there, Steve, you have something
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Speaker 2: to say? Because uh, I think we uh covered at all.
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Speaker 8: I'm ready for the next topic.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, like just your you're The reason I
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Speaker 2: said that is because your microphone was really on just
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Speaker 2: then and I didn't know whether you had something to
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Speaker 2: say or not. Okay, Yeah, So I mean, look, when
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Speaker 2: it comes to Dynamite three hundred. I think the most
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Speaker 2: intriguing match for me personally is me to share Cower
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Speaker 2: Mercedes Bonet because it is the only title match. But
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Speaker 2: then we have another match Kazuska a kado Akada and
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Speaker 2: Coodo Bushi. Good lord, this is what they're seventh match.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a student of the of their their series,
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Speaker 2: but I think it's their seventh. Uh do you guys
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Speaker 2: see anything happening here? Of course, Acata is going on
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Speaker 2: in ten days to face Kenny Omega for the Unified title.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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Speaker 6: I seem a great watch in our future. These two
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Speaker 6: are amazing. We got a little taste of what they
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Speaker 6: can do. Imagine what it's going to be like when
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Speaker 6: they get when they have the time to really open
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Speaker 6: it up. It's gonna be so good. And I bet
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Speaker 6: it's gonna be some angle at the end, you know,
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Speaker 6: some shenanigans, and we just may get a dramatic rescue.
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Speaker 3: Kenny's coming back.
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Speaker 6: Yep, exactly who you think dramatic rescue?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Kenny's gonna be coming back holding his
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Speaker 2: abdomen and Excalibur is gonna excl exclaim that Kenny had
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Speaker 2: four inches to six feet of his intestines removed, and
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Speaker 2: it just depends on how how Excalibur is feeling. Uh
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Speaker 2: on that my three? Yeah it maybe you know they
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Speaker 2: replaced his h they stretched out as esophag has replaced,
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Speaker 2: replaced his contests with this stretched out gat. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they're really cammering that up. It's it's almost like, I
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Speaker 2: don't know how you guys feel about what EXCaliber talks about.
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Speaker 2: The diverticulitis that Kenny Omega has. It's kind of like
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Speaker 2: a running gag by now don't you think a little bit.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Kenny Omega may explode any second.
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Speaker 3: H that's the way it seems.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can go ahead, no good, No, you can.
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Speaker 7: You can push something like this a bit, but it's
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Speaker 7: got to die. Sometimes you've got to stop it and
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Speaker 7: stop worrying about it, because then you just make it
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Speaker 7: seem like he's doing it for the you know, he's
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Speaker 7: doing it just because he wants.
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Speaker 5: Everybody feel bad for him. That's the way I look
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Speaker 5: at it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you do feel bad for him,
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, it's kind of funny to me that,
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Speaker 2: you know, Excalibur has changed the distance or the amount
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Speaker 2: of intestines that Kenny Omega's had to move, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, let's see, for dramatic effect,
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Speaker 2: I think we should say, if you take out the
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Speaker 2: uh someone's intestines and stretch it out or or reach
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Speaker 2: up to the top of the Empire State Building, well,
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Speaker 2: Kenny Omega had the first thirty four floors removed. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm just like, come on, you know, you know what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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Speaker 9: It's like, you know, just just be consistent, because indeed,
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Speaker 9: if you go back and you watch Kenny Omega matches
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Speaker 9: what Excalibur has said, he has said a few different things.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's just like this cage is like on the
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Speaker 6: top of a fifty foot high steel k twenty five
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Speaker 6: feet tall at most.
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Speaker 2: Question about this match, of course, because this is not
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Speaker 2: a title match. The only title match is Mina and
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Speaker 2: Mercedes on on Dynamite three hundred. Does I personally don't
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Speaker 2: feel like this is going to be a clean finish
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Speaker 2: to this match? Does do any of you guys think
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Speaker 2: this is going to be a clean finish? No?
23:54
Speaker 6: Calas family, Yeah, Don Don Kellas might come O.
24:00
Speaker 2: Might.
24:02
Speaker 5: He'll be out there for them, He'll be out there
24:03
Speaker 5: for them.
24:07
Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say that Rocky Romero
24:11
Speaker 2: might come out, Lance Archer, Don Kallas, Kyle Fletcher, they
24:16
Speaker 2: are all going to be out there. You know. It's
24:20
Speaker 2: like it's just the Rocky Romero maybe out, maybe out.
24:26
Speaker 2: You know, I think the attire Don Kallas is. It's
24:28
Speaker 2: gonna be like watching the outcasts again. Remember when the
24:32
Speaker 2: outcasts were at their so called height, you know, they
24:37
Speaker 2: all three, all of them, would come out to the ring,
24:40
Speaker 2: Tony Storm, who are the outcast? Tony Storm, Ruby Soho
24:46
Speaker 2: sore Sorea was that it. Yeah, every every match, they
24:51
Speaker 2: would trot out all three of the outcasts, you know,
24:55
Speaker 2: to face I don't know, Willow Nightingale and here comes
25:00
Speaker 2: little Nightingale, all by your lonesome, you know. And that's
25:05
Speaker 2: kind of where I'm thinking this is going. It's gonna
25:07
Speaker 2: be Kodo Bougie against pretty much the entire Don Kallas family.
25:13
Speaker 2: There's no way.
25:13
Speaker 7: That's why you don't have a clean finish, because if
25:15
Speaker 7: you have a clean finish, you have no reason for Kennedy.
25:17
Speaker 2: To come back.
25:19
Speaker 6: Yes, through every single member of the Don Kallus family,
25:23
Speaker 6: powered by the power of love.
25:28
Speaker 2: There you go.
25:30
Speaker 7: Oh my God, the music's to come on. It's gonna
25:33
Speaker 7: be Huey Lose's Power of Love. So I'm gonna start
25:35
Speaker 7: playing when he's gonna come out.
25:39
Speaker 2: Correction Golden Love, gold Lovers. Yeah, oh my god, it's
25:48
Speaker 2: gonna be hilarious.
25:50
Speaker 3: And they, I mean, it can be Kenny and some
25:55
Speaker 3: other people too. I don't know. I mean, he's gonna
25:58
Speaker 3: have to bring more people with him, so I don't
26:00
Speaker 3: I don't know.
26:01
Speaker 5: You know, he's best friends coming out Brisco. He'll be
26:06
Speaker 5: out there.
26:07
Speaker 3: Yeah.
26:08
Speaker 6: Oh, he is a single handed rescue. It's more romantic
26:11
Speaker 6: that way.
26:12
Speaker 3: No, we don't need Romeo and Juliet.
26:17
Speaker 2: I did. I don't even know how the term golden
26:21
Speaker 2: lovers even came into effect. I really don't. But maybe
26:28
Speaker 2: it has a different meaning or connotation in Japan than
26:31
Speaker 2: it does in the United States. I mean, I don't
26:33
Speaker 2: know if you saw it, but Kenny Omega during Pride Month,
26:35
Speaker 2: which was last month, even said he even said, Hey,
26:39
Speaker 2: if people look at golden lovers as you know, an
26:42
Speaker 2: LBG TQ thing, I'm fine with that, you know, I'm
26:46
Speaker 2: happy for that, you know so, But because it does son,
26:51
Speaker 2: I mean, you think golden lovers, you think you know,
26:55
Speaker 2: you know, the whole bathing thing.
26:57
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, just as a side note on that, just
27:00
Speaker 6: for this, This is from my memory of an interview
27:05
Speaker 6: I read once like he's been always been very cagey
27:08
Speaker 6: on the exact connotations of his and Coda's relationship and
27:14
Speaker 6: his own orientation, although he did once say when questioned,
27:18
Speaker 6: I'm as straight as my hair. He has a very
27:23
Speaker 6: famous poodle mop on his head, so make of that
27:27
Speaker 6: what you will.
27:30
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what he is. But well, if you
27:33
Speaker 2: listen to Jim Cornett, Kenny Omegaz, you know into underage
27:37
Speaker 2: Japanese school girls, I'm sorry.
27:42
Speaker 5: I.
27:44
Speaker 2: Has said my my a w dream matches, you know,
27:49
Speaker 2: Riho against Jim Cornett with Machio as the special guest
27:53
Speaker 2: Reber just get it done. And people got pissed at
27:56
Speaker 2: me for saying that because, like Cord so many years,
27:59
Speaker 2: it's a joke. Idiots. No, No, I want to see that.
28:04
Speaker 2: I do too. I want to see you you know.
28:08
Speaker 6: The sense of humor.
28:09
Speaker 2: Don't don't slip, don't sleep on reheld guys. I said
28:13
Speaker 2: it before and I'll say it again. Rio would kill
28:16
Speaker 2: me sudden, I'm sorry, but she'd kill you too. Because
28:20
Speaker 2: they were old and slow. Eddie Kingston, come on.
28:26
Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Eddie, take me out too.
28:28
Speaker 2: I'm just no, I just sweep the leg and beat
28:33
Speaker 2: him up while he is did the ten minutes and
28:35
Speaker 2: tall get back up.
28:36
Speaker 7: But you wouldn't survive the machine gun chopped in the corner.
28:40
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, that's true. I'd probably laugh myself to death,
28:45
Speaker 2: exhaust myself.
28:47
Speaker 8: But what what that? What the hell are you doing?
28:53
Speaker 8: Why are you slapping? Stop slapping yourself? Stop slapping yourself.
28:57
Speaker 8: You're slapping yourself.
28:58
Speaker 2: Slap Oh my god, that was I still look at
29:02
Speaker 2: that video of him doing the machine gun chops. The
29:05
Speaker 2: Claudio casting Noli and they did a close up of
29:08
Speaker 2: it and machine gun chop number seventy five. Claudio was
29:14
Speaker 2: selling his ass off, did not get hit once. Meanwhile,
29:20
Speaker 2: Enny Kingston looked like he was having welts on his body.
29:24
Speaker 2: He was hitting himself so hard. I was like, well,
29:26
Speaker 2: at least he's, you know, dedicated the to the to
29:29
Speaker 2: the spot. I guess it's just it's the most ridiculous
29:32
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen in my life.
29:34
Speaker 10: But yeah, so back to a Coda Okkoda Ocada and
29:39
Speaker 10: Abousie so I guess we all agree that this is
29:42
Speaker 10: not going to be a clean match, a clean finish.
29:47
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a pretty uh, that's a that's
29:50
Speaker 6: a pretty shared opinion, I believe.
29:54
Speaker 7: Yeah, Howe's going very home.
29:59
Speaker 2: You don't see you go very long. There's only three
30:01
Speaker 2: matches on the show so far, so I know, but
30:06
Speaker 2: maybe it'll go a third of the show. Looks he's
30:11
Speaker 2: not had much action since coming back from his injury,
30:14
Speaker 2: so they've gotta do something, you know. But it's it's
30:19
Speaker 2: just gonna be good to see a Boushi in the ring,
30:21
Speaker 2: you know, and it gets the against the Kata of
30:24
Speaker 2: all people right after he comes back. You know. That's
30:27
Speaker 2: that's something, you know. Good for him, you know, and
30:31
Speaker 2: good for Okata. They need this. This is this is something,
30:35
Speaker 2: This is this is special.
30:39
Speaker 5: Watch for something.
30:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last week we saw Mark Briscoe, of all people,
30:45
Speaker 2: Mark Briscoe won the match to become the number one
30:51
Speaker 2: contender in UH for the Men's Casino Gauntlet. Well, Dynamite
30:56
Speaker 2: three hundred, we've got another four away match, this one
31:00
Speaker 2: to determine who is the number two person in the
31:04
Speaker 2: ring at all in for the Men's Casino Gauntlet. That
31:09
Speaker 2: matches between Brody King, MJF, aar Fox of all people,
31:16
Speaker 2: and and Anthony Bowens. Put you out the spot. Guys,
31:24
Speaker 2: I want to hear your picks. Who do you think
31:25
Speaker 2: is going to walk out as the number two man
31:28
Speaker 2: for all in Texas? Well?
31:34
Speaker 7: I'm assuming since they're trying to do a program between
31:37
Speaker 7: Risco and MJF, I'm assuming it's going to be MJF
31:40
Speaker 7: so they can have those two at it for a
31:42
Speaker 7: bit by themselves.
31:45
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree m JF.
31:50
Speaker 4: He's been also previewing programs with Osbry and Hangman everybody
31:54
Speaker 4: for a while, so.
31:57
Speaker 2: He's the favorite.
32:00
Speaker 6: I wanted to be Brodie King, but it's gonna be
32:02
Speaker 6: m j F.
32:07
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, hop story. What do you think here? Uh?
32:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely uh him JF. I think's favorite. He also
32:21
Speaker 4: assuming Hangman wins. He has the preview feuds that have
32:26
Speaker 4: been set up ahead of time.
32:31
Speaker 2: Oh boy, how is he gonna go past Brody King? Man?
32:35
Speaker 1: He's pretty Yeah, he has a tough challenge in front
32:38
Speaker 1: of him.
32:38
Speaker 6: MJF is gonna win.
32:40
Speaker 7: Nah, He's gonna pin either ar Fox or uh prody
32:44
Speaker 7: King won't even won't even be in the match.
32:46
Speaker 5: Bones will either it will either be Bones or ar
32:50
Speaker 5: Fox in the loss.
32:53
Speaker 6: I wouldn't supply Yeah, like, I wouldn't be surprised if
32:59
Speaker 6: m J. F As He's hurt Syndicate Buddies take out
33:02
Speaker 6: Brodie King beforehand.
33:07
Speaker 2: Well, you know the way I look at it, and
33:08
Speaker 2: I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. Look, Mark Briscoe has
33:12
Speaker 2: been eating loss after loss after loss. It's almost at
33:16
Speaker 2: a point where it became become one of the other
33:20
Speaker 2: running jokes. Oh there's Mark bisco brisco he's eating the pin? Right?
33:26
Speaker 2: Who else is in that same category? Aar Fox loss
33:30
Speaker 2: after loss after loss and eating pins. Wouldn't it be something?
33:35
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be something? If aar Fox walked away with
33:41
Speaker 2: that spot, that would be awesome. Really did he go
33:47
Speaker 2: to the UK?
33:48
Speaker 4: Now that was the issue last time?
33:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, That's very true. Look, you know, one
33:57
Speaker 2: of the things I will say is that when you're
34:00
Speaker 2: looking at the Casino Gatlin matches, and you know, I
34:06
Speaker 2: may be off base here, but if you're preparing for
34:09
Speaker 2: a long match, you need somebody with known stamina in there. Uh.
34:15
Speaker 2: Mark brisco definitely can go a long time in a match.
34:21
Speaker 2: We know we know MGF. Can we know MJB at
34:25
Speaker 2: that Iron Man match with Brian Danielson, you know, a
34:30
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, So we know that that MGF
34:34
Speaker 2: can go that way. Brody King maybe not. Of course,
34:37
Speaker 2: in these type of matches, these Casino Gatlin matches, a
34:42
Speaker 2: lot of times, a lot of the wrestlers spend a
34:43
Speaker 2: lot of time, you know, kneeling outside the ring from
34:47
Speaker 2: getting slapped in the face with a feather duster. So
34:53
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that they get taken out
34:55
Speaker 2: by a simple slap and allow the people in the
34:59
Speaker 2: ring to get the moves. It is the best way
35:01
Speaker 2: to put it, you know. So, and I hope that
35:05
Speaker 2: they don't do that. I want to see this be
35:07
Speaker 2: an actual brawl. I want to see this be an
35:12
Speaker 2: all in, all out brawl, you know at the Pretty College.
35:19
Speaker 7: I just don't they get more than ten people in
35:22
Speaker 7: because they they haven't gone very far past ten people
35:25
Speaker 7: so well.
35:25
Speaker 2: The last one they they I think they went sixteen
35:28
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, but you're right, because they've only
35:31
Speaker 2: gone up maybe ten, eight to twelve. Well, which look,
35:38
Speaker 2: it adds to the you know, to the to the
35:41
Speaker 2: lust or look I've said it before and I'll say again.
35:43
Speaker 2: I am not a fan of multi man matches. I
35:47
Speaker 2: have a problem like things like blood and guts and anarchy,
35:50
Speaker 2: anarchy and the arena. But I just don't like when
35:54
Speaker 2: you have ten people out there and eight of them
35:58
Speaker 2: are just kneeling outside the ring for no reason whatsoever
36:04
Speaker 2: other than to obviously give the two people inside the
36:07
Speaker 2: ring a chance to get their moves in. You know,
36:10
Speaker 2: I just don't like that. I I think it's silly,
36:13
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's obvious and silly. So so
36:18
Speaker 2: I guess everybody, I guess the majority of us are
36:21
Speaker 2: saying that we expect MG have to win.
36:27
Speaker 6: Yep, yep, mm hmm.
36:33
Speaker 2: Do you guys, based on what happened at Collision, do
36:37
Speaker 2: you expect the Gates of Agne to get maybe involved
36:40
Speaker 2: and take out Airfox at some point during this match?
36:45
Speaker 6: Oh, I almost forgot about that. Yeah, that'd make a
36:48
Speaker 6: lot of sense. Actually, yeah, I.
36:51
Speaker 2: Think I think I think it would.
36:53
Speaker 7: I think if if he was in it, then yeah,
36:58
Speaker 7: but there's I mean, it's only air Far because I
37:00
Speaker 7: really don't think it's gonna make a difference.
37:03
Speaker 2: Ricochet has got it out for him. It seems right. Well.
37:10
Speaker 2: Speaking of MJF, MJF this past weekend showed up in
37:16
Speaker 2: MLW to confront Mystico. Uh. First things first, do you
37:22
Speaker 2: think Mystico may show up tomorrow night or are at
37:26
Speaker 2: t to my three hundred to uh screw with MJF?
37:31
Speaker 2: Could be? I mean that would be a perfect way
37:35
Speaker 2: to get MGF versus Mystico at all in wouldn't you agree? Yep?
37:40
Speaker 5: I was thinking the same thing.
37:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, but MGF shows up at MLW. Wow, should guys
37:49
Speaker 2: see that it was something.
37:52
Speaker 5: His old stumping ground.
37:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, got some of the WWE sement money after all.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you know it's interesting though, because MLW
38:07
Speaker 2: New Japan Pro Wrestling and CMLL had a executive meeting
38:13
Speaker 2: this class past week to discuss their partnership. You know,
38:20
Speaker 2: they had their executives show up and meet. And when
38:25
Speaker 2: you think about that, I mean, AW just had a show,
38:28
Speaker 2: a very successful show, mind you in CMLL. MJF just
38:34
Speaker 2: showed up in MLW, and we've got Forbidden Door next month.
38:43
Speaker 2: So I think this is a lot about just getting
38:50
Speaker 2: these partnerships out there and saying yeah, we're here and
38:54
Speaker 2: we're strong and we're doing stuff. Together, you know, so interesting,
39:06
Speaker 2: go ahead.
39:07
Speaker 4: I think rightfully people clown on MLW a little bit.
39:11
Speaker 4: I mean they do book Matt Riddle almost every show.
39:14
Speaker 2: They deserve it. But you know they.
39:18
Speaker 4: Also book show game every show. It's become half the
39:21
Speaker 4: show has been t JPW recently. But they you know,
39:26
Speaker 4: they pay their bills like they uh, they somehow draw
39:30
Speaker 4: like to these shows. They they sold out their show
39:33
Speaker 4: in Chicago. I think it was about a thousand seats.
39:37
Speaker 4: They somehow draw people to these shows. So it's not
39:40
Speaker 4: like MLW is doing something.
39:45
Speaker 2: I think they're probably one of the top.
39:47
Speaker 5: They're one of the top indies at the moment.
39:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't discout that. Yeah, but when
39:57
Speaker 2: you look at it, you know, with the partners, you know,
40:01
Speaker 2: MG I'm showing up in MLW was big. It was big.
40:05
Speaker 2: That's big news. And having missed the go in MLW
40:10
Speaker 2: was big. That's big stuff. But you know, especially especially
40:18
Speaker 2: especially in light of you know, the Triple A and
40:23
Speaker 2: w w EE, I guess you could call it a merger. Now.
40:26
Speaker 2: I don't know if the sale actually went through, but
40:28
Speaker 2: it's a look CMLL. You know, they just did a
40:35
Speaker 2: show with the AW and the Beast Mortos participated in
40:41
Speaker 2: that show after being for lack of better words, blackballed
40:46
Speaker 2: by CMLL. Friday night, CMLL is doing their own show
40:51
Speaker 2: and guess who's in the main event. Now it's not
40:55
Speaker 2: a one on one match, but the Beast Mortos. It
41:01
Speaker 2: wasn't a one off, It wasn't a one and done.
41:03
Speaker 2: The Beast Mortos is in the main event at the
41:06
Speaker 2: CMLL show in on Friday. That's big. That's a big deal.
41:14
Speaker 2: That is a big deal.
41:15
Speaker 4: He took at Gy Sarah's vacated infaction spot. It seems
41:19
Speaker 4: like he's going to be with Averno and Ultimate Gerrero,
41:24
Speaker 4: so he's gonna be on the cards if he wants
41:27
Speaker 4: to go.
41:28
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is this is a good thing.
41:31
Speaker 2: And there's another thing that when during the week when
41:35
Speaker 2: when CMLL, because CMLO has a lot of shows, and
41:40
Speaker 2: they were promoting one of their shows on social media
41:45
Speaker 2: and do you know what CML of course it was
41:47
Speaker 2: in Spanish, but you know what DMLL called their fan base.
41:56
Speaker 2: They called them sickos. That's big.
42:05
Speaker 11: Yeah, that is big, And I'm not saying that it's
42:09
Speaker 11: big for a w but if you look at everything
42:14
Speaker 11: that's working between CMLL DO, Japan, MLW, and AW.
42:21
Speaker 2: They're coalescing. This is good stuff.
42:27
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you. I think it has a
42:28
Speaker 5: lot to do with those three. Tony's got a lot
42:34
Speaker 5: of influence with all of them.
42:35
Speaker 7: But I think those three are getting together and saying, look,
42:38
Speaker 7: we know what WW is trying to do to you,
42:40
Speaker 7: and we're going to show them that they can't do it,
42:42
Speaker 7: and we're gonna be right there for you and we're
42:44
Speaker 7: gonna work with you.
42:47
Speaker 2: Bring it better for everybody. And we didn't even talk
42:51
Speaker 2: about Stardom in this well. Startom in Stardom is owned
42:56
Speaker 2: by Boushy Road, which also OWNS and JPW. But when
43:00
Speaker 2: you look at Stardom, Okay, they're five on July fifth,
43:05
Speaker 2: so three days from now, less than three days from now,
43:09
Speaker 2: Startdom is going to be announced the participants in there
43:13
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty five five Star Grand Prix. Now
43:19
Speaker 2: that is the same event that Anna Jay went to
43:23
Speaker 2: start them to participate in in twenty twenty four. Here's
43:27
Speaker 2: the thing, though we've already talked about Shuri Okay. Surrey
43:32
Speaker 2: is a former five Star GP champion and a main
43:36
Speaker 2: stay in these tournaments. Other main stays in these tournaments
43:41
Speaker 2: are tam Knakano and Miuewatani. None of those three are
43:50
Speaker 2: even they're not in this tournament this year. Tom Nakano
43:54
Speaker 2: is retired, meu Atani has left and gone. The Marigold
43:58
Speaker 2: Suri has already been announced for short that she is
44:02
Speaker 2: not in this tournament. That opens up the door for
44:08
Speaker 2: somebody from AW to step in and take one or
44:12
Speaker 2: two places in this tournament and make it a big
44:15
Speaker 2: deal like they did with Energy. I'm gonna say Ana
44:19
Speaker 2: J's participation in the Five Star GP the last year
44:24
Speaker 2: got a lot of overseas attention for the Five Star GP,
44:30
Speaker 2: especially when you considered that Stardom did something that's very
44:35
Speaker 2: smart and uh and appreciative actually, because you know, these
44:41
Speaker 2: Five Star GP things are on essentially pay per views,
44:46
Speaker 2: you know, pay per view shows, but like a W
44:51
Speaker 2: with their pay per views and CMLL, they do a
44:55
Speaker 2: zero hour kind of thing, and they put Anna Ja's
44:58
Speaker 2: matches for the most part on the zero hour things
45:02
Speaker 2: so American fans could watch and a Jay get exposure
45:09
Speaker 2: for stardom on YouTube live. That's that's brilliant marketing right there.
45:19
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you got to look at the five
45:22
Speaker 2: Star GP and and maybe see something going on there,
45:27
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Uh, Time Time for Wrestling
45:32
Speaker 2: in our chat said that you can see Queen Queen
45:36
Speaker 2: Amanada going over Ian. I have some opinions about Queen Amanada.
45:41
Speaker 2: I think she's working a little bit too stiff, and
45:44
Speaker 2: I think, uh, I don't know, but I will say this,
45:50
Speaker 2: when it comes to stardom, people look at stardom and
45:52
Speaker 2: they see like these Joshi wrestlers. You know, these little
45:56
Speaker 2: Japanese girls. That's not what these women are. They're not
45:59
Speaker 2: little jazz, but these girls, these are strikers. You know.
46:05
Speaker 2: Look at Julia in w w E. She's kind of
46:09
Speaker 2: misplaced a little bit because her her her style is
46:13
Speaker 2: stardom style striking. And I think she just she just
46:22
Speaker 2: stands out like a sore thumb. She just doesn't have that. Uh.
46:27
Speaker 2: Stephanie Bacoor, Uh, I don't know way about her that
46:36
Speaker 2: fix in. I guess it's the best way to get
46:39
Speaker 2: you know, saying it. Well, she's not on She's.
46:43
Speaker 4: Not on the level of Stephanie. I think I've I
46:46
Speaker 4: think I've made this point before, like and I don't
46:49
Speaker 4: need to reiterate kind of me. There's that there's not
46:54
Speaker 4: really uh, there's not an upside to me, like a
46:57
Speaker 4: ranking where I think Julie is in the way. She's
46:59
Speaker 4: never been one of my favorite wrestlers, but I do
47:01
Speaker 4: think she's quality, definitely quality wrestler overall. But yeah, they
47:07
Speaker 4: I think you're on a some there with with stardom
47:09
Speaker 4: being it's a little down right now from TAM's retirement.
47:13
Speaker 4: Everything else started, like kids partially working hard, Mike is
47:17
Speaker 4: going to be out with her elbow surgery. There's a
47:20
Speaker 4: lot of there's a lot of pieces missing.
47:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that stardom needs a little bit
47:26
Speaker 2: of a help. I mean, they're still fantastic, don't get
47:29
Speaker 2: me wrong, but a lot of their experiences not in
47:33
Speaker 2: play right now, you know.
47:36
Speaker 5: So he's in Julia Hart and Blue.
47:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, look needs some stardom rips. Yeah, I'm interested in
47:44
Speaker 2: you know, because we we what you said about Stephanie
47:48
Speaker 2: Pakoor and Julia. Stepanie pa Cour is definitely a more
47:52
Speaker 2: technical wrestler, and she's also more of a more well look.
48:00
Speaker 2: Julia is all elbows, head butts and knees. Yeah, you're
48:06
Speaker 2: not gonna see a lot of You're gonna see a
48:08
Speaker 2: few souplexes, but you're not gonna see much of anything else.
48:11
Speaker 4: No, every Julia matches, she's gonna do some striking and
48:14
Speaker 4: then she's gonna pile drive you through a table at
48:16
Speaker 4: some point, right, there's gonna be some reason to go
48:19
Speaker 4: outside and she's gonna pile drive you through a table.
48:21
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what she does, that's her thing.
48:24
Speaker 2: Right, And Julia is actually very very good at taking
48:26
Speaker 2: bumps too. I will say that for sure, you know,
48:29
Speaker 2: but I and I do believe when it comes to striking,
48:33
Speaker 2: Julia has that over Stephanie Pacoor. And when it comes
48:36
Speaker 2: to taking bumps and selling bumps, I think she has
48:40
Speaker 2: that over Stepanie Percore. Anything technical and just fluid and whatever,
48:46
Speaker 2: Stephanie Pacoor has it. The problem with Julia in in
48:50
Speaker 2: WWE is that's not the style of wrestling that wd
48:55
Speaker 2: WWE wrestlers are trained to do at the performance center.
48:59
Speaker 2: So is kind of like a woman on her own
49:01
Speaker 2: island out there. Yeah, you know, so probably not the
49:08
Speaker 2: best move for her to go to w WE. She
49:12
Speaker 2: probably should have stayed in mirror, goold, you know, and
49:16
Speaker 2: done something, because look, you talk about something that's Hurt
49:19
Speaker 2: and Marigold. God that that company is drawing four hundred people.
49:27
Speaker 4: You know, they're really going all in on this feud
49:30
Speaker 4: with Marvelous here recently enough to where I think they're
49:34
Speaker 4: going to do a double title match between Hayashashita and
49:38
Speaker 4: uh and uh Roja from Marvelous.
49:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just but does anybody care? You know?
49:49
Speaker 4: Probably so, I mean I care from the sense that
49:51
Speaker 4: I will watch the show, But yeah, I'm not. I
49:54
Speaker 4: don't know if anybody like I really don't even know
49:57
Speaker 4: what people are drawing now, if Merrigolds and attendance numbers
50:03
Speaker 4: have improved.
50:05
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean keep in mind also that
50:10
Speaker 2: Mary Gold is a very very very new company still,
50:13
Speaker 2: they've been around for about a little over a year
50:16
Speaker 2: and start him just I mean, they do three shows
50:21
Speaker 2: a week. The Miracle can't compete with that, you know.
50:25
Speaker 2: I don't think it was just very well thought out,
50:28
Speaker 2: and I think that Rossi Gawa thought that maybe w
50:33
Speaker 2: W was going to send some people over and you know,
50:36
Speaker 2: help them fill out their roster, get some people from
50:39
Speaker 2: the performance Center from NXT or whatnot. Possibly you know,
50:43
Speaker 2: send Carrie Sane and Yes guy over. It's just not
50:47
Speaker 2: really happened. I think EO went once and that was it.
50:51
Speaker 4: They they definitely thought they were going to have more defections.
50:55
Speaker 4: You with Tony's contract didn't allow that when they first left,
51:00
Speaker 4: and a lot of people, like I think people thought
51:04
Speaker 4: half of Stardom's top people were gone. And the reality
51:07
Speaker 4: is I think if you look at it, like, why
51:09
Speaker 4: if you're Micah or Azuomi or Starlight Kid or anybody
51:14
Speaker 4: I for that matter, would you want our momo for instance,
51:16
Speaker 4: would you want to go to Rossi's promotion whenever you've
51:19
Speaker 4: been kind of held back?
51:21
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, at that point, Saya Kawatani, that's why. Sorry,
51:27
Speaker 2: you know, w come on, there's just so many women
51:31
Speaker 2: in stardom that for this way, if the stardom roster
51:36
Speaker 2: went to WWE WW, that'd be a better roster. If
51:40
Speaker 2: the stardom roster went to a W the stardom roster
51:44
Speaker 2: would make a W a much better roster. I mean,
51:48
Speaker 2: it's I've said it before and I'll say it again.
51:51
Speaker 2: It always bothers me when you know, somebody says that
51:55
Speaker 2: NXD has the best women's wrestling in the world, or
51:57
Speaker 2: WW as the next has the best women's wrestling in
52:01
Speaker 2: the world, or a w has the best women's wrestling
52:04
Speaker 2: in the world, not even close. Sorry, it's not it's
52:10
Speaker 2: not even They're not even in the discussion. In my opinion,
52:15
Speaker 2: started is far and away and has been the best
52:19
Speaker 2: women's wrestling in the world. It's just that damn good.
52:25
Speaker 4: So anyway, so can we talk about something else maybe
52:31
Speaker 4: that might affect Forbidden Door in a big way. Not
52:34
Speaker 4: to get too fast far past Texas, but and what's that?
52:40
Speaker 4: That would be Hirochice Goto losing the title on a
52:44
Speaker 4: TV show that nobody saw. Yeah, back to Zach Saber Junior.
52:50
Speaker 2: Well that was the whole point about it. What don't
52:51
Speaker 2: you think is that got lost the title to Zach
52:54
Speaker 2: Saber Junior because Zach Jaber Junior is more marketable for
52:58
Speaker 2: Forbidden Door.
52:59
Speaker 4: Well that's the thought. I think there's some Apparently Goda's
53:03
Speaker 4: gonna miss some injury time, and there's been kind of
53:06
Speaker 4: some back and forth on whether he was injured prior
53:08
Speaker 4: to the Saber match. Seems kind of silly not to
53:12
Speaker 4: think that he probably had some type of injury going
53:15
Speaker 4: into that. Zack's an easy person to work, can keep
53:17
Speaker 4: you from getting art worse.
53:20
Speaker 2: But the where's Zach Saber from Zach Saber Junior from?
53:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's from Sheppy, He's from England.
53:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, yea quick, will Osprey and Zach Saber
53:33
Speaker 2: Junior in a match of Forbidden Door at the O
53:36
Speaker 2: two Arena in England and in London?
53:39
Speaker 4: Holy cow, can I tell you what I think it's
53:43
Speaker 4: gonna be. Go for it, Brian Danielson.
53:47
Speaker 2: You really think, Oh my god, you know you think
53:51
Speaker 2: it's gonna be pribb. Yeah, well, when if you're gonna
53:53
Speaker 2: do Brian Danielson match, I mean, who's the better pro
54:02
Speaker 2: than Zach Saber Junior? Seriously? Very interesting thought interesting. I
54:09
Speaker 2: think there's any chance of maybe doing a uh maybe
54:13
Speaker 2: Zack Saber Junior gets it just to protect Brian Danielson
54:17
Speaker 2: a little bit, gets a tag team partner and maybe
54:19
Speaker 2: it's Danielson and maybe Osprey is tag team possibly.
54:27
Speaker 4: I mean Ospray, Ospray and Saber would be a great match.
54:29
Speaker 4: To get me wrong, that would be uh, that would
54:32
Speaker 4: be a crazy match. But uh, there's potentially other potentially
54:38
Speaker 4: other matches for Ospray.
54:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do Ospray and Zach Saber Junior. If that's
54:44
Speaker 2: not I mean not Ospray Danielson and Zach Saber Junior.
54:47
Speaker 2: If that's not the main event, there's something wrong. Yeah. Yeah,
54:52
Speaker 2: So you know something fun that that's been talked about
54:57
Speaker 2: is uh the whole Christian Age and Adam Copland. It
55:02
Speaker 2: came out a week or so. Again, I think it
55:04
Speaker 2: was Fitful said, yeah. The plan, the original plan was
55:07
Speaker 2: for Christian Cage and Adam Copeland to be a team
55:11
Speaker 2: at all in And it was actually Christian that put
55:16
Speaker 2: a kebash on that because he didn't want to lead
55:19
Speaker 2: the patriarchy patriarchy without doing everything he possibly could to
55:25
Speaker 2: get Nick Wayne over good on Christian Cage. That's when
55:29
Speaker 2: these ex WWE guys are supposed to be doing, you know.
55:35
Speaker 6: Putting over these father does.
55:38
Speaker 2: That's what a good father does does. So, yeah, it
55:41
Speaker 2: looks like Christian Cage and Adam Copland are going to
55:44
Speaker 2: get together, but not before Christian Cage puts Nick wayn over.
55:48
Speaker 2: And there's been talk about Christian Cage and Nick Wayne
55:53
Speaker 2: being the first father son Tag Team champions in AW
55:58
Speaker 2: And there's also been talked that they've actual he created
56:01
Speaker 2: a father son Tag Team belt. Why that's ridiculous. I
56:10
Speaker 2: don't get it. That's an expensive joke.
56:14
Speaker 3: I get.
56:15
Speaker 7: I get the fact that they want to. I want
56:16
Speaker 7: that he wants to help put him over as much
56:18
Speaker 7: as he can. But seriously, if if he does get
56:22
Speaker 7: if they do win the tag titles, they're not gonna
56:25
Speaker 7: have him for long.
56:26
Speaker 5: So I don't see that it's gonna help put him over.
56:29
Speaker 2: I disagree if they win the father son tag titles.
56:32
Speaker 2: There's no other father son tag teams in the n
56:35
Speaker 2: AW didn't take them out.
56:38
Speaker 7: I know I agree with you on that, but I'm
56:39
Speaker 7: saying that if it doesn't make any sense for me
56:42
Speaker 7: for those two to win the tag titles, and that's
56:44
Speaker 7: not I mean it's gonna help put I mean he's nick,
56:49
Speaker 7: Wayne's not.
56:50
Speaker 5: He's over pretty good as it is now. He's doing
56:53
Speaker 5: a hell of a job on his own.
56:54
Speaker 7: I mean, he did a great job in the super Juniors,
56:57
Speaker 7: and I get it it would help him a little bit.
56:59
Speaker 7: But if you're gonna have them win the titles and
57:02
Speaker 7: then immediately lose them, I don't see what the point is.
57:05
Speaker 2: But they're not winning the a W Tag team titles. Yeah,
57:10
Speaker 2: they're winning the aa W father son titles. It's different
57:16
Speaker 2: that Matt Well You's the only one you can do
57:20
Speaker 2: is Billy Gonna What are you gonna have? And his
57:22
Speaker 2: son Steve Borden, Taz and Hook.
57:27
Speaker 7: You know, I mean wrestle, So I seriously doubt that
57:30
Speaker 7: would happen. You could have a three way match between
57:33
Speaker 7: those teams for it, I guess. I mean, it's kind
57:35
Speaker 7: of stupid. Like you said, it is stupid. It don't
57:37
Speaker 7: make any sense.
57:40
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. It's look whatever you want
57:46
Speaker 2: to think about it. The tag team the father son
57:49
Speaker 2: tag teams don't don't make any sense, especially since they
57:54
Speaker 2: said that they've also made the women's tag team titles.
57:57
Speaker 2: You don't introduce a gimmick joke title at the same
58:03
Speaker 2: time as, in my opinion, some very important women's tag
58:08
Speaker 2: team titles.
58:09
Speaker 7: I think the best way to put Nick Wayne over
58:12
Speaker 7: is to have them turn on Christian Well because that
58:18
Speaker 7: would give him a face turn, because Christian is such
58:22
Speaker 7: an evil little twerp.
58:24
Speaker 5: But I mean, I don't see them winning it. I
58:27
Speaker 5: just don't get the.
58:27
Speaker 7: Fact that he thinks that's going to help put him
58:29
Speaker 7: over any more than he already is. I think a
58:31
Speaker 7: turn on him and then to save by Adam Coplan
58:34
Speaker 7: would be the best way to do that and finish
58:35
Speaker 7: it off.
58:36
Speaker 2: Well, what you do is you turned the patriarchy into
58:39
Speaker 2: the matriarchy, That's what you do.
58:41
Speaker 7: That was the play in last year from what we heard,
58:44
Speaker 7: they were supposed to turn only before and he never did.
58:47
Speaker 2: And what mother Wayne and her tall self, you know,
58:52
Speaker 2: I mean g towers over you know, at least eighty
58:56
Speaker 2: five to ninety percent of the entire roster on aw Uh,
59:01
Speaker 2: she's she's she's imposing. And I've actually when she's been
59:05
Speaker 2: on the mic, I've actually rather even though she's simple,
59:09
Speaker 2: simple scripted, I actually liked her Aura. I guess that
59:14
Speaker 2: is the best way to put it. Well, the plan
59:17
Speaker 2: was when before.
59:20
Speaker 7: Before Jungle Boy went off to Japan and all that,
59:23
Speaker 7: the plan was that they were supposed to have him
59:25
Speaker 7: join and turn on Christian and it was going to
59:27
Speaker 7: become the matriarchy and then he was going to be.
59:30
Speaker 5: Part of it along with.
59:32
Speaker 7: Whatever you want to call him, the Dinosaur Man, whichever
59:36
Speaker 7: way you want to call.
59:37
Speaker 2: Him, Nim Wayne.
59:38
Speaker 7: And yeah, it was either going to be loose, you
59:40
Speaker 7: know that they could call him U the story, she
59:41
Speaker 7: can call him and kill switch whichever. But that was
59:44
Speaker 7: all planned last year, and then the whole ship with
59:49
Speaker 7: Jungle Boy happened and he ended up Jack Perry ended
59:51
Speaker 7: up leaving for a while, so that kind of put
59:53
Speaker 7: a coybox on it.
59:54
Speaker 2: Then, well, if you go, Lucas Sores is calling himself
1:00:01
Speaker 2: Lucasaurus on the signing tours, and he's also gone back
1:00:08
Speaker 2: to the green mask. It's not the same green mask,
1:00:12
Speaker 2: but it's a green mask. The man is coming back.
1:00:15
Speaker 2: I we'll talk before all In next Tuesday night. We're
1:00:21
Speaker 2: gonna probably be doing a All In prediction show, or
1:00:27
Speaker 2: at least sharing thoughts about about all In. And one
1:00:30
Speaker 2: of the things that we're going to talk about is
1:00:32
Speaker 2: who do we think is gonna show up? Because it's
1:00:35
Speaker 2: probably gonna be the most fun thing to talk about.
1:00:37
Speaker 2: Who do we thinks of the show up at the
1:00:38
Speaker 2: Men's Casino Goblin Match? And who do we think is
1:00:40
Speaker 2: in the show up at the Women's Casino Goblin Match?
1:00:44
Speaker 2: But spoiler, and I think Lucasaurus is one of one
1:00:47
Speaker 2: of my top names in the men's Casino Golin, So
1:00:53
Speaker 2: let that just be said. Anyway, Eventually we're gonna get
1:01:00
Speaker 2: Christian Cage and Adam Copeland as a team. The cope
1:01:03
Speaker 2: cage or whatever the heck they're gonna call it, but
1:01:08
Speaker 2: not right now. Uh, maybe in time for the for
1:01:13
Speaker 2: the pay per view after Forbidden Door. But let's move on, Yeah,
1:01:18
Speaker 2: all out, that's right, Let's talk about some pope prie.
1:01:22
Speaker 2: Does anybody have pope pried that they want to talk about? Hi?
1:01:27
Speaker 6: Do if I may go for it? Jess, I was
1:01:31
Speaker 6: actually gonna bring this up next week and which sort
1:01:33
Speaker 6: of ran out of time. And you you're probably gonna
1:01:38
Speaker 6: have something to say about this, Kelston, because you mentioned
1:01:40
Speaker 6: you had thoughts Almanada she had that weird stiff, ugly
1:01:51
Speaker 6: match with THECLA and there was some like scuttle butt
1:01:55
Speaker 6: that like it may have been like shoots, like she
1:02:00
Speaker 6: may have been like working stiff on purpose, So like,
1:02:03
Speaker 6: is there beef between those two of them? And then
1:02:06
Speaker 6: she cuts a promo saying that she wants to like
1:02:10
Speaker 6: basically like she wants to do a feud, basically implying
1:02:13
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a few between Amanada and Tekla. So
1:02:16
Speaker 6: did we all get worked? Is there beef there? And
1:02:21
Speaker 6: they're just turning it into an angle out of professionalism?
1:02:25
Speaker 6: What do you think is going on there?
1:02:27
Speaker 2: I have an opinion on this. First, I don't believe
1:02:34
Speaker 2: that it is a work in any way, shape or form,
1:02:39
Speaker 2: Nor do I do I believe that it's a shoot.
1:02:42
Speaker 1: Uh.
1:02:43
Speaker 2: Look, I think the plan all along was maybe for
1:02:48
Speaker 2: Amanada and beck La to have a mini feud donald
1:02:51
Speaker 2: lanky feud, but a mini feud. I like Amanada and
1:02:59
Speaker 2: I've been at propos on it for her being on
1:03:01
Speaker 2: TV a lot more than she's been. Uh, she's she's
1:03:08
Speaker 2: got I've said that. I just said it earlier the
1:03:11
Speaker 2: word or earlier. She's got the aura and she has
1:03:15
Speaker 2: been on TV a lot lately and it's exposed her.
1:03:22
Speaker 2: She's not that good, that's my opinion.
1:03:26
Speaker 7: Kind of agree with him. I kind of agree with
1:03:28
Speaker 7: you kills. And I think she works hard. I think
1:03:30
Speaker 7: she works stiff. That's just how she is.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: That's that's how she is.
1:03:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think there's a I don't think it's
1:03:37
Speaker 7: a work. I don't think it's a shoot. I think
1:03:39
Speaker 7: that's her and that's the problem. She's been found out
1:03:43
Speaker 7: and she's gonna either have to learn to roll with
1:03:46
Speaker 7: it or there's gonna be some her rise to start
1:03:50
Speaker 7: him is not gonna happen.
1:03:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, for me, she and I don't know, Jess,
1:03:55
Speaker 2: if this is something that you are already anybody else
1:03:57
Speaker 2: agrees with. Abanana is a face character with every heel
1:04:04
Speaker 2: tendency that there is. She's got a bad attitude. She
1:04:08
Speaker 2: works stiff and I'm sorry she's immature. That's just a
1:04:15
Speaker 2: good I mean. And the more I see her, the
1:04:18
Speaker 2: more I think, you know, maybe she's not as good
1:04:22
Speaker 2: as I thought she was. As I was like, this
1:04:24
Speaker 2: is the next TBS champion, Nomenada, and I just don't
1:04:28
Speaker 2: see it. I just don't, you know. I hate to
1:04:32
Speaker 2: say it, but I'm getting a cancer in the locker
1:04:35
Speaker 2: room vibe from her. I get it. Maybe that's intentional,
1:04:39
Speaker 2: I don't know.
1:04:39
Speaker 7: I get a Jay Cargill attitude feeling from her. She
1:04:45
Speaker 7: acts a lot like Jake car Gill did. She comes
1:04:49
Speaker 7: across as a great as what could be a great wrestler,
1:04:52
Speaker 7: but she just doesn't have She just does how to
1:04:55
Speaker 7: work with people.
1:04:59
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, it's I'm just saying it is. The
1:05:02
Speaker 2: more that I've seen her, and I'm interested in hearing
1:05:06
Speaker 2: what everybody else's opinion on her is. The more than
1:05:09
Speaker 2: I've seen Aminada, the less I like her. And I mean,
1:05:13
Speaker 2: as far as I'm not thinking about her character or
1:05:16
Speaker 2: even her as a person, I just don't think she's
1:05:18
Speaker 2: that great, that she's just that good.
1:05:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was starting to get like vibe. Her name
1:05:26
Speaker 6: escapes me. I'm gonna be kicking myself as soon as
1:05:29
Speaker 6: somebody says it. She used to tag with Diamante. She
1:05:34
Speaker 6: was Luca Underground.
1:05:38
Speaker 5: What's her name? I know who you're talking about, because
1:05:40
Speaker 5: I just watched the story about.
1:05:41
Speaker 6: That evil Yeah, she was giving me evilly s.
1:05:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. Anybody else, not Hamsare or Steve.
1:05:56
Speaker 2: Do you have any any opinions on Nomenaa, on her
1:06:01
Speaker 2: rise a possible fall? Is she the next TBS champion
1:06:05
Speaker 2: or any you know something?
1:06:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to it's hard for me to disagree
1:06:12
Speaker 4: with your assertion that she's not really helped herself with
1:06:18
Speaker 4: more work she Uh, I mean, I first of all,
1:06:25
Speaker 4: and I'm shocked to hear that the Chigos and Aguayo
1:06:28
Speaker 4: trainee would be too stiff with people. That's that's just
1:06:32
Speaker 4: impossible to believe. That's everybody from Marvelous, So that's uh,
1:06:37
Speaker 4: it's understandable, I guess. But yeah, I agree with you like,
1:06:41
Speaker 4: she needs to she needs to take a step forward
1:06:43
Speaker 4: in probably this year, or she's gonna be in a
1:06:45
Speaker 4: little bit of a rough patch because you know, I think, uh,
1:06:51
Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing now is the quality level
1:06:55
Speaker 4: moving up. It's gonna be hard to get matches, Like
1:06:57
Speaker 4: if you're not if you're not as good as Alex wins,
1:07:00
Speaker 4: you're not going to get matches anymore, you know. So
1:07:03
Speaker 4: she definitely needs to to take a step forward. But
1:07:07
Speaker 4: I still, you know, I still will hold that hope
1:07:09
Speaker 4: for her. She doesn't have a ton of reps on TV.
1:07:12
Speaker 4: Definitely not ready to write her off, but I don't.
1:07:16
Speaker 4: I And for the record, I thought the match with
1:07:19
Speaker 4: Decla was was a lot of fun. I thought it
1:07:21
Speaker 4: was actually the best Declo match in a while because
1:07:25
Speaker 4: she hadn't had a lot of good singles. But also yeah,
1:07:28
Speaker 4: I and I think as far as like how their
1:07:31
Speaker 4: stuff went, there was probably some there were probably some
1:07:36
Speaker 4: communicate I don't know if there's communication issues or just
1:07:39
Speaker 4: some some chemistry issues, but definitely she was a little annoyed.
1:07:44
Speaker 4: I think with Deca at the end that was very clear.
1:07:48
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna say one word
1:07:50
Speaker 2: to you, Homshara, and this is, uh what I think
1:07:54
Speaker 2: the issue is. I don't know if you saw this movie,
1:07:58
Speaker 2: but I'm going to say the word, maybe get it
1:08:00
Speaker 2: and maybe you won't gostrapa. She has anger management issues,
1:08:07
Speaker 2: I believe I think she. I think she devolves. If
1:08:11
Speaker 2: you see the movie anger management. That's the running joke
1:08:14
Speaker 2: goosebabo and that's the word that they use to those
1:08:20
Speaker 2: with the anger management issues, used to calm themselves and
1:08:25
Speaker 2: to you know, admit internally that they have anger management issues.
1:08:30
Speaker 2: That's what I see with Amanada as a babyface character.
1:08:35
Speaker 2: That does not work. It would work if she was
1:08:38
Speaker 2: a heel. You know, Dekla is supposed to be a heel,
1:08:42
Speaker 2: and she comes off as more the babyface when she's
1:08:45
Speaker 2: in the ring with Queenomanada. If you're gonna do that
1:08:49
Speaker 2: and let Queen Amanada's true personality come out, she's got
1:08:54
Speaker 2: to be like the mega heel character. There's just no
1:08:56
Speaker 2: other way around it. You can't make her babyface with
1:08:59
Speaker 2: that kind of behavior.
1:09:01
Speaker 7: I kind of think she picked the wrong person to
1:09:03
Speaker 7: bring that out against, because I think Bechla is probably
1:09:07
Speaker 7: one of the kind of that can go in the
1:09:09
Speaker 7: ring and you want to work stiff, She'll works stiff
1:09:11
Speaker 7: with you, and you're gonna come out on the bad end.
1:09:13
Speaker 2: Decla is the type of person that won't demean herself
1:09:18
Speaker 2: at the working stiff dec Decla is a striker. She
1:09:22
Speaker 2: comes from stardom Startom as a striking company. That's what
1:09:26
Speaker 2: they're known for. They're not known for flippity shit. They're
1:09:30
Speaker 2: known for two things, striking and belly to back suplexes.
1:09:36
Speaker 2: My god, they do a lot of suplexes, German suplexes
1:09:39
Speaker 2: and belly Holy cow, it's like, you know, thirty a match.
1:09:43
Speaker 2: I don't care who it is, but you know, when
1:09:48
Speaker 2: that was going on, I think Decla was amused, not mad.
1:09:55
Speaker 2: She wasn't going to give Dominado a receipt. I personally,
1:10:00
Speaker 2: do you think Beckler was like this, This shit is funny.
1:10:06
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. Anybody else has a pot pourrif
1:10:10
Speaker 2: for tonight? No, nop.
1:10:18
Speaker 6: Anybody you want to say anything about Knight of Champions,
1:10:23
Speaker 6: What god?
1:10:27
Speaker 2: I tried to watch that. Let me I'm gonna preface this, okay.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: The last p l E they had was money in
1:10:41
Speaker 2: the bank. No, was that the last pl E money
1:10:45
Speaker 2: to make. Yeah, and I and on this podcast I
1:10:49
Speaker 2: made a statement saying I watched Money in the Bank
1:10:53
Speaker 2: and I was thoroughly surprised. I have not watched a
1:10:57
Speaker 2: w W P L E in years. I I thought
1:11:01
Speaker 2: the show flowed well. I thought the matches were fun
1:11:05
Speaker 2: and interesting. I was Sports Center. I didn't see a
1:11:12
Speaker 2: problem with you know, yes, I mean obviously you're gonna
1:11:16
Speaker 2: have commercials. I didn't think that they were overbearing, right,
1:11:21
Speaker 2: And then you had Night of Champions which the first
1:11:26
Speaker 2: match was Randy Orton against Cody Rhodes. Randy Orton looked
1:11:32
Speaker 2: like a seventy five year old man in the ring
1:11:35
Speaker 2: and Cody Rhodes looked like a young man who was
1:11:37
Speaker 2: wrestling a seventy five year old man in the ring.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: They stared at each other, They did a lot of
1:11:45
Speaker 2: headline It was the worst match I have seen in
1:11:49
Speaker 2: a long time. They were going for psychology, I think,
1:11:53
Speaker 2: and they didn't pull it off. And then the second
1:11:55
Speaker 2: match was rear Ripley against I can't remember who rear
1:11:59
Speaker 2: Ripley even rustled against Rea Ripley, whitbeat.
1:12:08
Speaker 5: I don't know much.
1:12:10
Speaker 2: Well, the point is is that I don't remember the
1:12:12
Speaker 2: match because it was gone awful boring. I was like,
1:12:15
Speaker 2: you're talking about a no holds barred, no disqualification match,
1:12:20
Speaker 2: you know. And it was like, here, here, you can
1:12:23
Speaker 2: use this feather duster, and you can use this feather
1:12:25
Speaker 2: duster and just beat the crap out of each other.
1:12:28
Speaker 2: You could hit as much, you could hit as hard
1:12:29
Speaker 2: as you want with a feather duster, but it's still
1:12:31
Speaker 2: a feather duster, you know what I mean. It just
1:12:34
Speaker 2: there was no and then I turned it off. I
1:12:36
Speaker 2: was like, this is just awful. It is awful. It was.
1:12:42
Speaker 2: It was just bad. Now I can always say about
1:12:44
Speaker 2: the first at second matches, but I didn't enjoy it.
1:12:50
Speaker 6: Sorry, no, no, I was wondering because nothing like a
1:12:56
Speaker 6: Saudi show to bring out just the absolute worst and everyone.
1:13:01
Speaker 7: Well they never had good shows in Saudi anymore. I mean, yeah,
1:13:10
Speaker 7: I don't.
1:13:11
Speaker 2: Have Yeah, but look, the crowd was hot, they were,
1:13:16
Speaker 2: you know, and I saw some of the dumbest comments
1:13:21
Speaker 2: on the from the IWC, from that pay per view,
1:13:26
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to get there, Like there were
1:13:28
Speaker 2: no women in the crowd, just there were you know.
1:13:32
Speaker 2: I saw some. I saw some. I mean not gonna
1:13:35
Speaker 2: lie to you I was turned on by Saudi women ankles.
1:13:38
Speaker 2: I'm telling you never seen that before. God Almighty no,
1:13:42
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you know, you know, there was
1:13:45
Speaker 2: just you know, this was a plant. That was a plant.
1:13:48
Speaker 2: This was a plant. They piped in this, they did that.
1:13:53
Speaker 2: Who cares? I don't watch. Yes, a crowd can make
1:13:59
Speaker 2: a show better, and a crowd can make a show worse, right,
1:14:05
Speaker 2: But ultimately, the wrestling's good. The wrestling's good. Yep, you know.
1:14:10
Speaker 2: I don't care what a wrestler does when you're walking
1:14:13
Speaker 2: away from the ring or to the ring as much
1:14:16
Speaker 2: as I care about what the crowd does and what
1:14:19
Speaker 2: the wrestlers do in the ring. That's my point. I
1:14:24
Speaker 2: don't care if they put a match in you know,
1:14:26
Speaker 2: the local bar. If the crowd appreciates it, the wrestlers
1:14:31
Speaker 2: do well, it's a successful show. I don't care if
1:14:35
Speaker 2: it's two hundred wrestlers at a show or twenty thousand.
1:14:41
Speaker 2: You know, these arguments are stupid. I mean, twenty thousand
1:14:46
Speaker 2: or two hundred in the crowd, you know, not wrestlers, right,
1:14:49
Speaker 2: twenty thousand wrestlers is holy cow, that's a massacre. Yeah,
1:14:55
Speaker 2: So that's my opinion.
1:14:58
Speaker 6: I would probably like say, there's probably something to the
1:15:03
Speaker 6: rumor that the that Muhammad, the fan who was mad
1:15:06
Speaker 6: at CM punk and got a public apology out of
1:15:09
Speaker 6: him was probably a planned Yeah, there just so happened
1:15:15
Speaker 6: to be someone there for UH Punk to make a
1:15:20
Speaker 6: public apology for his blood covered blood money covered you
1:15:26
Speaker 6: know what tweet. Just somebody just happened to be there
1:15:29
Speaker 6: in the front row, and you just happened to publicly
1:15:32
Speaker 6: address this one fan in particular, kind of sus.
1:15:38
Speaker 7: Look, it comes down to, you know, we can see
1:15:41
Speaker 7: we can sit here and talk about what ww did
1:15:44
Speaker 7: good and what WWD didn't do good, and it's going
1:15:47
Speaker 7: to be like that all the time because they are
1:15:49
Speaker 7: now finding themselves in a position where they're catching up
1:15:52
Speaker 7: or trying to catch back up to what aw's doing.
1:15:55
Speaker 5: Because the more AEW gets good.
1:15:58
Speaker 7: And starts getting better and keeps growing and the momentum
1:16:01
Speaker 7: keeps going, the worst WWE looks they really do.
1:16:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Stunton, Look like I said, I watched Money
1:16:13
Speaker 2: in the Bank and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really
1:16:18
Speaker 2: can't say no, really, there were some things that I
1:16:21
Speaker 2: didn't like as much as others. But there's things that
1:16:24
Speaker 2: I like more than others and aw shows than any
1:16:26
Speaker 2: wrestling show that I've ever watched. But overall, I thought
1:16:30
Speaker 2: Money in the Bank was a very enjoyable, great I'll
1:16:36
Speaker 2: say it. It was a great show. I liked it. I
1:16:40
Speaker 2: loved Money in the Bank. I would watch WWE if
1:16:44
Speaker 2: they can put that type of product out there every
1:16:47
Speaker 2: week based on Money in the Bank. That's the reason
1:16:52
Speaker 2: I watched Night of Champions because I was hoping that
1:16:56
Speaker 2: I would see something commeserate to Money the Bank. What
1:17:00
Speaker 2: I got was not that. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be
1:17:08
Speaker 2: honest with you. I people from the You guys know,
1:17:12
Speaker 2: if I see something today w does and I think
1:17:14
Speaker 2: it's shit, I'm not going to gloss it over. I'm
1:17:17
Speaker 2: gonna call it shit. And Money in the Bank was great, Dinam,
1:17:21
Speaker 2: Champions was shit. Sorry, that's the way it is. That's
1:17:27
Speaker 2: the way I look at it. But anyway, look, does
1:17:32
Speaker 2: anybody else have any other potpourries? Good? Well, then I
1:17:37
Speaker 2: guess we'll call it a night. We'll be back tomorrow
1:17:39
Speaker 2: night after well, yeah, tomorrow, and we'll be back Thursday.
1:17:45
Speaker 2: I guess the best way to put it for our
1:17:50
Speaker 2: Dynamite three hundred review show. If you want to participate
1:17:55
Speaker 2: in the Dynamite three hundred review show and give your
1:17:58
Speaker 2: thoughts about Dynamite three hundred and the implications that I'm
1:18:01
Speaker 2: sure they're going to come out in regard to aw's
1:18:06
Speaker 2: all in Texas. Just come onto our discord right after
1:18:12
Speaker 2: Dynamite three hundred goes off the air, whether it's ten o'clock,
1:18:15
Speaker 2: ten fifteen, ten thirty, God only knows what AW anymore
1:18:19
Speaker 2: and share your thoughts. We tend to do the show's
1:18:23
Speaker 2: only it's a shorter show and hopefully, hopefully AW gives
1:18:29
Speaker 2: us a crapload of stuff to talk about and speculate
1:18:33
Speaker 2: about on Dynamite three hundred. That's the hope. Anyway, Thanks
1:18:41
Speaker 2: guys for joining us and being part of the AW community.
1:18:46
Speaker 2: A couple of things I did want to mention before
1:18:49
Speaker 2: we go off the air. The AW fan of community
1:18:54
Speaker 2: has finally surpassed on Reddit ten thousand members, So thank you.
1:19:01
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, because we got started very late
1:19:05
Speaker 2: in the AW fandom, and it means a lot to
1:19:10
Speaker 2: have ten thousand people, you know, and so much activity.
1:19:17
Speaker 2: That's that, And I wanted to close the show before
1:19:20
Speaker 2: saying goodnight to say something that's rather personal. When I
1:19:28
Speaker 2: was growing up, my father exposed me to professional wrestling,
1:19:33
Speaker 2: and all these years later, I'm doing these podcasts and
1:19:40
Speaker 2: enjoying being part of ever expanding a w fanhub community,
1:19:47
Speaker 2: and frankly, none of that would have been possible without
1:19:50
Speaker 2: my dad and my love for It's literally a passion
1:19:56
Speaker 2: for professional wrestling has always been a passion for me,
1:20:00
Speaker 2: and it's all because of my dad. Aunt. Today is
1:20:04
Speaker 2: my dad's birthday, and I love you, am. I'm missing
1:20:14
Speaker 2: good night everybody.
1:20:17
Speaker 5: My guess good night