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Mac & Bone Show Hour 3: Panthers Preseason Observations - Offense · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, mack and bow on your radio baby in
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  Speaker 1: my freeing man, posh, come on, posh, this in my
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  Speaker 1: freeing team.
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  Speaker 2: Bone. What's that the fun?
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to the MAC
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  Speaker 1: and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Do a lot.
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  Speaker 4: At end of the day, I trusted coach. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you get at all of us. We all want to
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  Speaker 4: be out there, you know, especially you know, everyone gets going.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone wants to you know, there was a competitor. But
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  Speaker 4: that's why coach there. You know, we we trusted him.
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  Speaker 4: We trusted his decisions. He's always you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 4: always able to see that thirty foot view and we're
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  Speaker 4: we're going until he says, and that's when he made
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  Speaker 4: the call.
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  Speaker 3: So we we trust him. There you go.
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  Speaker 5: That's Bryce Young being asked, did you want to go
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  Speaker 5: out for a fourth series?
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  Speaker 3: After all?
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  Speaker 5: Because of the penalty on the Coker catch, you basically
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  Speaker 5: played nine official plays, three three and outs, and Bryce Young,
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  Speaker 5: of course, is not going to call out cannecalis right,
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  Speaker 5: you know, coach coaches in charge. I got coaches back,
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  Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff. But it has ticked off
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  Speaker 5: the fans that they only got nine plays in when
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  Speaker 5: Canalis said ten or twenty before the game.
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  Speaker 3: That is one of many things Bone.
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  Speaker 5: To talk about during this segment that I'm sure is
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  Speaker 5: going to be extremely enjoyable to talk about the eyesore
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  Speaker 5: that was the first team offense. Was there anything better
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  Speaker 5: from from the backups? How worried are we? That is
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  Speaker 5: one thing I see on the text line Bone as
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people bringing up the slow starts and
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  Speaker 5: that they fear that this is, you know, an indication
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  Speaker 5: that a slow start would be coming. They've got they
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  Speaker 5: have few chances here to restore some confidence between the
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  Speaker 5: joint practices, and I would figure they would at least
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  Speaker 5: play one more preseason game the starters.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the.
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  Speaker 2: Areas that's good news for whatever it's worth is it
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  Speaker 2: feels like the end of half play calling in the
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  Speaker 2: game management and the execution is better right now. That's
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  Speaker 2: an early sign that the giving up of the play
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  Speaker 2: calling for Canalis to Itzig is working, at least at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the halfs that's notable. That's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: That's the reason why he did that, So that's notable.
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  Speaker 2: It's really hard. Although we have a ton of evaluators
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  Speaker 2: on the text line seven four five seven h nine
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  Speaker 2: to six ten. It's really really hard to evaluate anything
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  Speaker 2: with the offense, whether that's bryce the run game, the receivers,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to evaluate any of that because the interior
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  Speaker 2: of the offensive line was so bad. They all starts
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  Speaker 2: with that. They were so bad nothing could get started.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like we watched Bryce throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: downfield and was way off. It's not like Coker or
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  Speaker 2: Team Matt drop passes. It's not like Brooks Wioks slow
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  Speaker 2: in the open field, none of that. Because the interior
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  Speaker 2: of the offensive line was so bad it messed up everything.
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  Speaker 5: You can't even like Insick's play calling, you can't even
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  Speaker 5: entirely look at because of you know, getting stuff when
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  Speaker 5: you try to run it and then having the pass rush.
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  Speaker 3: It was out there.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess the question would be I guess I
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  Speaker 5: phrase the question this way to everybody, like what are
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  Speaker 5: the legitimate fears based on what we saw offensively? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I think you've got to fear the interior o line depth, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Like is Brady certainly is Brady Christiansen going to be
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  Speaker 5: himself coming off a torn achilles or is he not
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  Speaker 5: going to be able to get up to speed Chandler's
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  Speaker 5: of Valla. He was not a fan favorite coming into
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  Speaker 5: the season, so I'm sure if we can all agree
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  Speaker 5: as fans, like if he has to play this year,
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  Speaker 5: we are concerned about it. I thought Fortner was a
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  Speaker 5: bit disappointing, like he's been written and hecked by all accounts.
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  Speaker 3: I thought played really well.
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  Speaker 5: I know PFF were great for Fortner and I didn't
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  Speaker 5: notice any mistakes during the game. But Fortner got beat
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  Speaker 5: really bad on a run play was involved. A couple
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  Speaker 5: of Texters say he was involved in the sack. It
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  Speaker 5: was hard to tell what a stunt there who was
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  Speaker 5: responsible for it. PFF gave it to Zavala. I thought
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  Speaker 5: Christiansen was involved, but Fortner had the penalty that took
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  Speaker 5: away our only first down.
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  Speaker 3: So I just think the guard depth and Luke Fortner.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we've definitely got to worry about that,
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  Speaker 5: Like that's.
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  Speaker 2: Legitimate, right that is that's the That's the biggest concern
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  Speaker 2: coming out of the game for us or for me anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Other stuff was not good, but the biggest concern that
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  Speaker 2: could carry over to me would be the interior offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: And it really puts a lot of emphasis on the
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  Speaker 2: health of Lewis and Hunt big time major, major, major
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  Speaker 2: area where the winds above replacement, so to speak, behind
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  Speaker 2: those guys. The war not not great right now. They
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  Speaker 2: need those guys, don't I don't worry too much about Lewis,
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  Speaker 2: But Hunts got He's paid a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: We need him on the football.
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  Speaker 5: It feels like it feels like with Zavala, we got
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  Speaker 5: a performance that had some losses below replacement. It feels
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  Speaker 5: like he had the war going on. So I think
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  Speaker 5: like that is legit. This dude says, you guys just
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  Speaker 5: said it. Hunt and Lewis have to be healthy, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm worried about Hunt. Yeah, Lewis, we brought these numbers
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  Speaker 5: up earlier. Lewis has been again. Anytime I talk about
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  Speaker 5: the Panther's health, I feel like I'm screwing something up.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not ready to doom him.
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  Speaker 5: But Lewis, it's been one game missed each of the
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  Speaker 5: last four years, so it feels like he's pretty darn healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I would take that.
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  Speaker 5: Hunt had the big injury last year bone, but has
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  Speaker 5: missed games in each of his last three seasons. He
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  Speaker 5: missed five in his last year in Miami. I do
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  Speaker 5: worry he's got a back injury. He's a big guy
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  Speaker 5: with back issues right now. I do worry a little
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  Speaker 5: bit about Hunt, But I just what do we do?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you can go out there and look during
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  Speaker 5: cut downs to try to bring somebody in. I still
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  Speaker 5: think we gotta get Brady c a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: time here, coming off the Achilles and missing the whole offseason.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe by the end of the preseason he looks more
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  Speaker 5: like himself.
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  Speaker 2: And we we don't fully know what the status of
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  Speaker 2: Ikey is. We don't know what his role might be.
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  Speaker 2: Could it be mac that he ends up becoming guard
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  Speaker 2: depth if he's back and healthy and they need someone
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  Speaker 2: back there right now. If that's possible too, If he's
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  Speaker 2: there and Lewis or Hunt goes down and he's ready
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  Speaker 2: to go, Canicky Knicky move to guard for a while
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  Speaker 2: and just help out there. Maybe that's ultimately his role.
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  Speaker 5: That's possible too, because I do feel like once we
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  Speaker 5: get motor back, Freeling probably goes to the left, I
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  Speaker 5: would guess, and then Walker becomes a depth piece. So
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  Speaker 5: if you do get Ikey back, the crazy thing about
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  Speaker 5: Ikey is, and we have people asking about him is
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  Speaker 5: I would have told you they haven't even given a
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  Speaker 5: time frame. It's gonna be It's gonna be a while,
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  Speaker 5: all right, is what I would have told you.
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  Speaker 3: I knew that was coming. That should be sponsored.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of wanted to hear it too, I gotta
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  Speaker 5: be honest, I kind of did want to hear that.
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  Speaker 5: But yesterday we found out the Bears a player we
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  Speaker 5: thought bone we would not be playing against in Week one.
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  Speaker 5: Their starting left tackle Ozzie Trapio, is back off the
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  Speaker 5: pup list practicing. He suffered the same torn pateeler tendon
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  Speaker 5: injury that Ikey did on the exact same day in
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs. Remember that Bears Packers game was right after us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So like how he's already back. So does that
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  Speaker 5: mean Ikey could be back soon? We think, or I
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  Speaker 5: know everybody heals differently. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Is he just a freak show or is that pressible
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  Speaker 2: with the advancements and injuries like that that maybe he
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  Speaker 2: could be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've not really heard a definitive timetable ever on Ikey,
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  Speaker 2: So I have no idea. You said he's been out
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  Speaker 2: there though, right said he was dancing last week he
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  Speaker 2: was dancing around during practice. Mean, he's not practicing, but
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  Speaker 2: he's he's out. He's out there, he's dancing, he's out
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  Speaker 2: there hanging out. He is dancing enough to dance. You
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  Speaker 2: can dance, you can play football. I've always said that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that means.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean when we do our victory dances?
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  Speaker 5: We could just be playing football to sent it out four, five, seven, nine, six, ten,
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about the offense. So Viola is kidding beat
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  Speaker 5: down by the text line, and I'm sure, I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: he understands it. I mean, it was a rough performance
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  Speaker 5: for him run in pass game. What do you think
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  Speaker 5: is legit worries from the offensive performance? And how much
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  Speaker 5: do you worry about the whole first unit because of Saturday?
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  Speaker 5: Granny pat says, outside of six dudes, everybody stunk. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just glad Granny is feeling good enough to send
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  Speaker 5: in these texts and rip panther players because she's been
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  Speaker 5: in the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like she's gonna get out soon.
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  Speaker 2: But Granny got Granny got off a ventilator just she
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  Speaker 2: Savage Leon from Bull City.
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  Speaker 3: Do we still suck le on?
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  Speaker 5: We are reigning division champs. Man, come on, y'all, pick up,
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  Speaker 5: pick up, pick up the optimism.
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  Speaker 2: We got a target on our back. Now it's different
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  Speaker 2: out there. The Bills were not playing the old Panthers
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday. They were playing the defendie champs of the
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  Speaker 2: NFT South. How much that means? That's clearly what we
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  Speaker 2: looked like.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Seven four or five, seven, nine to six ten? Send
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  Speaker 5: in your text your thoughts on the offense and how
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  Speaker 5: much doom are we in for this? Dude said meck
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  Speaker 5: and Bone gotta lie to us to keep Panther fans listening.
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  Speaker 5: But I watched that offense and realize we ain't any
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  Speaker 5: better than last year.
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  Speaker 3: What would you say to that person? What are you
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  Speaker 3: wanting about?
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  Speaker 5: I guess I guess what he's saying is, in order
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  Speaker 5: to keep Panther fans engage, we got to tell you
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  Speaker 5: that the Panthers are good, because if we if we
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  Speaker 5: tell you the Panthers suck, you're not gonna listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's thinking. There's two ways I
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  Speaker 2: think to analyze it. There's analyzing the game that was played,
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  Speaker 2: what matters, what matters to that moment and then there's
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  Speaker 2: the long term freakouts that I'm just not ready to
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  Speaker 2: do yet. So if you're gonna long term freak out
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  Speaker 2: and the season's over and Bryce is it, no, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not doing that. If you want to freak out about
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  Speaker 2: the individual stuff that you saw in the game in
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  Speaker 2: those moments and what concerns you, that's fine, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not doing the whole Bryce is Bryce's we got text here,
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  Speaker 2: mapple e Rea day twenty five. You'll hear what we're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna do on the show that people did on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday at A twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna read you. Bone's gonna rea the hand away.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's guys like Richie.
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  Speaker 5: Bone's gonna read off the game day the in game
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  Speaker 5: text line, and how furious that was. This dude says, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: y'all cannot you cannot try to tell us that Bryce
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  Speaker 5: played well. I think what we're saying is like we
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  Speaker 5: didn't get to see t Mac or Excel involved, and
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  Speaker 5: it's a shame because t mac was in the slot
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  Speaker 5: five times. Out of seven pass plays, he was in four,
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  Speaker 5: Like I want to see him cook in the slot.
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  Speaker 5: I like that idea of getting mismatches in there, but
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  Speaker 5: we just didn't get to see it. I mean, Bryce
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  Speaker 5: did not have time to go downfield. He'd be through
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  Speaker 5: a quick one to tremble through a quick one to
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  Speaker 5: Sanders and then got a little pressure. Freeling was beat
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  Speaker 5: initially and then kinda recovered. But Bryce moved to the
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  Speaker 5: right and then hit Brooks. So we didn't get to
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  Speaker 5: see like an in like an on time go through
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  Speaker 5: your reads pass downfield. So I guess what we're trying
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  Speaker 5: to say is I don't think we can't judge Bryce.
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  Speaker 5: We can't judge really the wide receivers. I mean, Cocher
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  Speaker 5: made a nice play Excel block form.
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  Speaker 3: But it was called back. How can we, boy, I
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  Speaker 3: really like what Coger did out there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what he did. You know, a chance
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  Speaker 2: to do anything, you can't judge it either way. Max
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  Speaker 2: Seth from Kannapolis has a good tweet here. We may
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  Speaker 2: need to redo the fan optimism rankings article from Watson.
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  Speaker 3: We were seventeenth. Where you think we are now about?
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  Speaker 3: I think we have followed all man.
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  Speaker 5: This dude says, are you a real Panther fan? If
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  Speaker 5: you watch three series of preseason football and declare of
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  Speaker 5: the offense garbage.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you're just I don't know, you're just a
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  Speaker 5: negative fan. Some people default to negative, so you're just
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  Speaker 5: like you just woe is me?
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  Speaker 3: We suck. I don't. Maybe that's your default set it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Some people not understand that. They don't game plan for
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  Speaker 2: the preseason like it's the regular season. It's not the
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  Speaker 2: same work like this. Three for Me says he hates
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  Speaker 2: a Vero's schemes. They don't scheme. They don't they don't
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  Speaker 2: do the film work for twenty hours a day. They
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  Speaker 2: don't put in the work for these preseason opponent. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're out there evaluating the individual talent. Sure they have
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  Speaker 2: some sort of a plan, but it's more about the
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  Speaker 2: individual players than the concepts of what they want. They've
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  Speaker 2: got to show you everything in the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about that later in the
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  Speaker 5: hour because fans are going after Canalis, Izick and Avero
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  Speaker 5: and I want to have an honest question, Like we
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  Speaker 5: were praising Avaro last week, So if we can praise
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  Speaker 5: a guy, can we rip a guy in the preseason?
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  Speaker 5: A coach or is like all preseason like you just
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  Speaker 5: can't rip a coach for anything in the preseason, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I think that we have to have that conversation that
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  Speaker 5: Let's let me read a couple of texts I think
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  Speaker 5: are valid points about like Panther fans that are like
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  Speaker 5: way upset and already like, you know, waving the white
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  Speaker 5: flag this Texter says Mac. I think the problem is
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  Speaker 5: that we as fans have not gotten to see any
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  Speaker 5: practices at all. So when we hear from people that
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  Speaker 5: are at the practices telling us the offense is good
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  Speaker 5: and then we see this hot garbage, it upsets us
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. I think that's fair. I think that's
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  Speaker 5: fair to be like, man, where was this? Like, I
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  Speaker 5: think we're getting a lot of that today. Where is
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  Speaker 5: red hot?
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  Speaker 3: Bryce? He did that in practice.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't do it out here, but he didn't have
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  Speaker 5: time out here on Saturday unfortunately, and he only got
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  Speaker 5: three series, which if you want a nitpick that, I
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  Speaker 5: think that's a fair thing to nitpick if you want.
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  Speaker 2: To, that could be you know, I mean I kind
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  Speaker 2: of get it, but that could be on the list there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not like it's not like Bryce was out
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  Speaker 2: there or just missing throws. He can hardly do anything.
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  Speaker 5: It was one of those where it was just like
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  Speaker 5: a lost day for Bryce and for many of the
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  Speaker 5: guys in our offense. Seven oh four Number says, I
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  Speaker 5: think what happens y'all is if they see something bad
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  Speaker 5: about a player or a coach they don't like, they
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  Speaker 5: use this to go back to their agenda, ripping Bryce
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  Speaker 5: or ripping Avero or ripping whoever. Yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: guess you got My whole thing is I think you
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  Speaker 5: have to wait until the regular season before you start, like,
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  Speaker 5: I get it. Some fans are questioned question whether Bryce
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  Speaker 5: is the guy long term, and in fairness bone he
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  Speaker 5: has not been consistent enough to get the Panthers to
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  Speaker 5: believe he's the guy. Yet Panthers no, still need to
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  Speaker 5: see more. I guess what bothers me is the whole
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  Speaker 5: Bryce is done.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, ain't the guy?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 3: That's what gets me.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing the sweeping decorations off the preseason. You
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  Speaker 2: know this, dude's said those same people Mac that you'll
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  Speaker 2: hear from some coming up. If Bryce played well, If
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  Speaker 2: Bryce went out there and lent a touchdown drive, what
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  Speaker 2: would the narrative be about that drive or those offensive
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  Speaker 2: players that played well, they would say, oh, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a preseason. They're playing against vanilla defense. When Bryce plays bad,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's the end of the world.
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  Speaker 3: That is true.
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  Speaker 5: That is true, although in fairness, I probably react more
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  Speaker 5: strongly when they play good.
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  Speaker 2: Not you right, you are mister measure like I I
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  Speaker 2: measured man measured mine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the type of fan that probably if they play good,
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  Speaker 5: I want to get a little excited about. It's still
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  Speaker 5: trying to keep some context. So I'm just different. Some
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  Speaker 5: fans just the negative is what they is where they live.
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  Speaker 5: They live in negative Ville. Some fans are just are
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  Speaker 5: just like that. This Texter says, I believe we should
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  Speaker 5: be worried sick about the entire offensive line. Both starters
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  Speaker 5: are out the interior. The interior line was terrible the
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  Speaker 5: other day. Shouldn't this be an all across the board
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  Speaker 5: offensive line freak out?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Bonesy? Not until Also,
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  Speaker 2: it's a whole. It's all these guys have to get
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  Speaker 2: you to each other. Even when Hunt and Lewis are
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: in there. It's a new center, it's a new left tackle,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: it's a new right tackle. It's all new. So there
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: are going to be some issues. Even when the starters
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: are in their healthy you have to give the offensivevine
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: time to gel. They're not going to be perfect from
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: day one. Let's see where they are within the season
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: and then we can evaluate further. I do think, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I do think it isn't good. But I don't think
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: it's a indictment on this whole group. Yet both starting
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: guards are out. We pay them a combined hundred and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. They're the anchors, they're the rocks, I
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: do think. But we've talked about this, like having both
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: of your starting offensive tackles out from your best team
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: in what ten years? Nine years, Tina gots in playoffs
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: for the first time in nine years.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It's not ideal.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: It's not ideal, And what you're describing is not ideal either.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: We got to get those two anchors in there. We
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: have to. But like and in football, but to say
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: you're not worried about the offensive line and the fact
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: that you have new pieces and the fact that got hurt, like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I think we'd be lying if we said there's not
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: some concern about it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: You know when we come back.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: So how bad was the Panther fan text in mid game?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Was the freakout on? We explore that and how fair
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: is it to criticize the coaching staff From Saturday's Sports
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Radio ninety two seven wf and Z.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Now's the time I should tell everybody that all this
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: reaction Saturday Show in all its glory, you can find it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: If you missed any of it, you can find the
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: podcast WFNZ dot com, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Check out the show if you want to hear what
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: people are saying. How extreme are the reactions? What are
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: we saying back? Figure out in your mind who's right,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: who's wrong? Feel free to check all that stuff out.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I'm just glad football is back. I'm glad we have
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: this emotion. Throw it for nothing. Nothing brings this passion
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: out right and listen, yeah it is. It frustrating sometimes
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: when people are declaring the season over and we're sitting
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: here reading these texts, and then people use it to
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: go off on us, your liars, you're lie to us
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: again about the like is that fun?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: And not necessarily?
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: But I'm glad football's back and nothing brings passion in
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: this town like Carolina Panther football for better or for worse.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: I do want to talk about the blaming of the
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: coaches in a preseason game, fair or foul. And somebody
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: asks a great question, guys, could you spend a few
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: minutes on guys that played well? Sir, We have a
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: little bit, but that's something we can do. I feel
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: like there's some people that deserve to get out of boy.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: So anyway, we'll get to that stuff here in a second.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about the Hornets trading for Dennis Shrewder coming
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: up that that happened on Friday.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Trade man for Shrewder.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: That's coming up in about I don't know, twenty minutes
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: or so, eighteen minutes at eight forty five. But first,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: bone Man, take it away. Read off the poetry that
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: is the in game text line on Saturday afternoon.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I love we have NFL Primetime Highlight music, and this
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: is our highlights from Saturday. We're gonna start back with
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a j who had a series of texts. By the way,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: AJ last year, the guy who tried to argue that
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Derek Brown was not a good football player.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Keep that in nine.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It was a series of texts including he's on us
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: about touting the roster. But here's a couple that stood
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: out here. We will win a few games towards the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: end of the year that we shouldn't and you all
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: will have the same shows you've been having for two years. Lmao.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's Groundhog Day for WFNZ. Do you all feel like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a bunch of dumbasses yet again? Like the past few years,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: this team blanking sucks. Weren't read that off last year
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: because they made the playoffs. Wasn't that bad of a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: year last I don't know.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I picked them to go eight to nine, and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: do believe they went eight and nine. Here you go,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: and we've improved under Canalos by three wins each year,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: like I know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: So feeling, I know, vibes that we've had before, We've
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: we're moving in the right direction.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: See rule Matthew Reich Franklin. If you want to find
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: coaching regimes where we absolutely stunk out loud, get like
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: a turd that's been left sitting there for four months.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: That's how much we stunk.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: In those areas.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: The times these came in as well, because it's kind
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of funny when you read one fifteen don't enjoy watching
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: by nine play that's from Go Bugs. Bryce has to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: pack up and leave the city.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Anonymous, Anonymous, no name on that, wonder why you wonldn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: want to put a name on that from a preseason
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: game where he has no time.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Two to eight pm, Yes, sir, Bryce is looking good.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Gonna be another long season. Cannot wait to hear your
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: bull boy preason on Monday.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Well, sir, you're hearing it right now. All right, all
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: the bs we can we can serve you.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, two twelves anonymous.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: All I love the chronology to the way you read
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: out the time so people can get a feeling of
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: how the text line is escalating throughout the afternoon.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: To twelve pm. Thirty minutes and not one first down.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys, Canalis and Bryce is simply not the answer.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I don't care who is in playing ten bleeping yards.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Come on, you make millions and you can't get ten
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: bleeping yards.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Anonymous, Sir, sir, they had twelve yards and nine plays.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Oh you met a first down? Yeah, they didn't get
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: one of those and didn't get one of those.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It was ugly. I don't dispute it was ugly, sir.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Turn Ferguson weighs in at two fourteen pm, Mac and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Finney and at anyone take my name off the ten
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: win train ployees. I no longer believe turn you stole
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Tuesday's topic. That's it's gonna be one of the topics tomorrow. Phinney,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: you're down graded. Finny go take his name off there.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: We are still making the two o'clock hour on Saturday.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: This is at two thirty six. He's going to cross
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: some marigos. Get him hold on, say yeah flush that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Turn Fanny right on off the list was top of
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the list. He's out.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: This is two twenty six. Mac from cannon Ball Paul.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I bet a Bryce Young fan the whole way. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: we've heard every day how Brady's looked up in practice,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: but when it comes to the game, he's failed. Very
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: disappointed in Bryce. I'm the way fan of Bryce supposed
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to do out there with that old line.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Fan of Bryce mack As has that enough?
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: See that. That's That's what it is, isn't it. They
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: thought they were gonna see Bryce Montana. They thought, like
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: the way he's played in practice, the media accounts of
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the way he's played in practice, they thought we were
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: gonna go. Did they think we were gonna hang a
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: fifty burger on that fools.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Is that that's the problem.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Fans can't see practice for themselves and they believe this
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: was gonna be insane.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Good, This one was interesting.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: Mac.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: We now move ahead of the action to three twenty
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: four pm. Weather Man Mark has weigh in. Now, keep
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in mind he sent me about twenty negative texts to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: myself before this happened, and now he's mad at me
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: this morning because I called him negative. Well, I'm sorry.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Want me to read off the text he said to
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: my phone as well, this.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Is weather Man Mark.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: The offense still cannot protect Bryce you on You failed, Dad.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: If this is your offensive line, you should have worked
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: more on depth and had a better offense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: You're an embarrassment.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Dan.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my, that's an embarrassment. That's savage, the poor Dan
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Morgan man. But yet he's mad I called him negative?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Did you have to inform him? Those weren't the starting
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: guards at least? Though, Like, I feel like that's a reaction
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: if that was the he's starting to do that of course,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and then he would on to rip to the offensive line. Okay,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I told him that an hour before that text came through.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: By the way, all right, all right, Max, three forty
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: one PM Anonymous, time to put the ten win list
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: into shredder.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: That's kind of funny, actually, some of y'all are funny though.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: While you're rant and during the games.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Three point fifty three, anybody want to redo their for
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this year? This is got awful. By the way, my
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: text name is fort mil possible. The pop single was
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Melton during the game on Saturday, man once again. Tuesday
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Tuesday topic, Sir Tuesday topic. We gotta pace ourselves? Oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I got that guy put his name in there on
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that one though, four row two PM. One of Max's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: favorite guys, buck Eye Dave Haines King will be the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: starter by years.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Then I did miss me some haines King out there, Man,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I do want to I gotta hope he can play
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: again in the preseas.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Here's a powerful duo that appeared during the postgame show.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Great job by Fiddy and Smoke. This is the one
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and only Bagel guy who claims, by the way, to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: be a huge Bryce fan.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Just tuned in. Are you guys coddaling Bryce yet?
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I guess we have this morning, Bagel. I guess we
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: by blaming the old line. I guess says considered coddling.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite Texters, Mack, who doesn't love to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: be negative at all. Richie say, it's my take five
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to twelve PM, my take, bye bye Bryce, Nat Mac
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: is your text on Saturday.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, the in game text. This has to be a feature, Bony.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: We gotta do this every week, man, the in game
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: text review, because y'all, I love the like absolutely. First
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: of all, I love the fact you're thinking of WFNZ
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: while you're watching the game.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: That means you like us, even if you won't admit
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: it on the text line some of y'all. But then
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: secondly like it. It's so amusing to hear the immediate reaction, man.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And you will see this, and you will hear some
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: during the season.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It'll be uh one oh four and you'll get texts
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that are just giving up on the team.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: This one waited a little longer into the game.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: This time, I'm telling you I can relate this. I
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: said this before. This is the way my father in
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: law is as a fan of everything, like Fitty, I'm
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: telling you right now. On qualifying Day in NASCAR, my
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: father in law texts me and says, those damn Toyotas
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: are the top six. Again, Chevy's got no chance NASCAR
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: do something like first lap, Oh my god, two toyotas
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: out front.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It's like we just started. Like he does that with Wash.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: He's a Washington football fan too, and I've watched games
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: with him, like first play goes for twelve yards up
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: the gut for the for like the Giants, Oh my god,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: we're gonna get We're gonna run all over. So like
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I can kind of relate, and I'm not gonna act bony,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: like I can't freak out in the middle of a
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Panther game, like I'd be lying. I don't know if
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I smoked Ludwig freak out, but I do at least
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: try to save my in game freakouts bone for the
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: regular season, though, you know I do. And it's also funny.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Look in the date, Mack. It is right now, the
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: text we just read.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It's August seventeenth, right now, and we're already having to
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: do this segment now.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Oh man, in game Texters, y'all keep them coming, baby,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: keep them coming?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Uh? Seven O four five seven? Oh did I say
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: it right? Seven O four nine six ten six ten.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I like the way he's only been that number for
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: how long?
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: I questioned myself, Man, I'm telling you that Panther first
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: team offense got me all kind of.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: He was gonna give out the h's roofing number there
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: for a that's.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Seven o four three three four nine nine three four
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: seven zero four three.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Four one final time seven zero four three.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Guess that counter fifty second update of the Battlehawk Nation
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: says that's a hilarious bet.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: He loves the primetime music in the background. Whoop rumbling,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: bumbling's dumbling. This texter says, uh, let's see here. This
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: texter says, absolutely glorious. We are really crazy, aren't we?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Again? It means you care, But man, some of these
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: are funny as hell. Anyway.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: The fact that I use weather Man Mark's voice to
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: read a text, you're good at that weather Man Mark voice.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: You got that, you've mastered that thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He went he was going off to like you said,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: he was going off to me on the offensive line,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and I said, hey, they're also missing the two guards.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I know that, And then he went on to rip
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the offensive white out.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Panther Pickle made a point like he'd like to see
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: nick seymac at guard he'd like to see some of
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: these other guys we just brought in.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Kerrhan. Yeah, Kurhan had a penalty. I believe at one
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: point in the game.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, there was one moment where he
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: kind of made a negative play. I forget exactly what
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: it was, but yeah, and maybe we'll get there. Like
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Kerrhan's just been added back. Samak has been getting Mike
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Ky's official Mike CA's the official Nick Samak fan club president,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: so we can talk to him about it. But like
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: he's been getting some snaps at guards, so maybe you'll
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: see I think his point was less Zavalla and more
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: of these guys, and maybe you'll start to see that,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: because I think we all now feel like, oh crap,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Chandler Zavala. Like it's been up and down for you
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: since you've been here. It's been really down at times.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: But I don't think we have much confidence in him.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: What do you think to answer the question bone of
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: are we gonna are we gonna talk about the guys
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: that did good?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Who's on your who's on your list?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: We this this may be repeating some guys that we
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: mentioned here, but I've been really impressed back with AJ
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Dillon and his ability to catch the football out of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the backfield. I there's got to be a spot on
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the roster for a guy of that size that has
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the soft hands at he has. I know that he's
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: not a guy that's a tight end, but can you
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: do some h back stuff and get him moving and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: get him down the field a little bit for a
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: team that just had designed Darren Waller for more tight
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: end production. I look at AJ Dillon game in, game out,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, man, there's a there's a role for
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: him in this offense, a Keith Buyers like role from
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: back in the day. There's something he's an old school
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: can do here with Dylan Man, I think he's got
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I think he's got to make the team.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: He played well last week too, you know, running and
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: receiving last week.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: The catching the catch at fan Fest opened my eyes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So this guy can contest. I didn't know he had this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I the Yeah, I've been kind of intrigued by that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I wonder, though, do you keep four running backs and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: keep him any to uh H, Let me get that straight,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: because you who would be more valuable to the offense,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like J T Sanders or AJ Dillon sticking around. I
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: think there's more value with AJ Dillon if it came
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: down to something like that or one of those back
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: end wide outs.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: It all comes down. There's value with Dylan. It's just
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: matter of how do you do it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: It all comes down to the roster math. Now, if
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Jimmy Horn can win the return jobs over over h n,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: then maybe Dylan could be the third back and you
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: only keep three four tight ends. I feel like the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: fourth would probably be Franks. I feel like they'd only
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: keep one of Waller's Sanders. You get to quarterback. What
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: do we do with Haines King? Do we have to
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: keep him on the active roster? Does he ever get
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: does he get shelve due to injury?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Like? I think there's questions there.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: So I don't know the wide receiver too, like how
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: many wide receivers are we I think all these things
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: affect each other. But I have definitely appreciate Dylan. I
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: think Horn's had a couple of solid games. I think
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Jasim Reid has had you know, two touchdowns in two
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: games and impressed as well. Rushers were the stars of
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: the game as far as I'm concerned. Phillips on down
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: through incomb.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Won if he might be a practice squad guy. I'm
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: not saying he couldn't be on their line was last year.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I just wonder if he has another spot on on
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the practice Yeah, I think that's possible with the guy
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that may see ashen during the regular season, but I
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: wonder if that's where.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: They wide receivers.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: You think we were keeping obviously the first three, then
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: you get from me, Nyce and Tremaine because of the
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: special teams. I think David Moore, just because he's the
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: veteran almost coaching, the you know, coach and shoulder pads
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: type guy, he also can do special teams.
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  Speaker 3: If you need him, you're not keeping and Horn. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I think Mechi's in trouble. He did not play until
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  Speaker 5: late in this game. I know he had the touchdown
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  Speaker 5: from Trask, but I feel like Mechi is clearly behind
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  Speaker 5: Horn and Reed at this point. I think Horn is
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: gonna make it. I think he once the game started.
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  Speaker 5: I think he started to show had a nice kick return.
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  Speaker 5: Should add two catches. The other day, Picking missed him
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: on that out. He got separation on that out. So
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know it's but I think Mechi feels like
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: an odd man out right now.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like Horn has passed him here in many ways.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: This dude said, any rookies playworth a crap. Just cut
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: right to the point. Lee gave up a few. He
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: almost had that pick six. He was inches away from
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: what would have been a pick six. Hunter drew the hold.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, I can't say I noticed Lee
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Hunter much Freeling I thought was solid, got beat momentarily
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: inside on the on the past to Brooks, but kind
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  Speaker 2: of recovered. Didn't let him get directly the interior for
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Freeling on the outside. It wasn't right. It wasn't like
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the rest of the guys were playing well next to him.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I would argue Freeling was the best starting lineman. I'm
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: not I understand. That's like being the tallest smurf. What
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: about this dude says? This dude says, is uh Is
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: mac mack. Are you seriously getting coaching criticisms in a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: preseason go? Oh yeah, I wanted to mention that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot on a varo right, it feels like,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: and don't get me wrong, bone, there was some stuff
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: that was done like in a vacuum. You would be
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: like what the f like chairless, you're in base defense,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: so periless when they go three wide cherialists covering wide receivers,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: he got toasted twice. I would hope in the ring,
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  Speaker 5: I would hope that they're doing that just to kind
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: of test cheriless and that because because that's the one
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: thing we got to remind ourselves. They're not out there
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: trying to You made the good analogy earlier. It's like
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: a pitcher working on a certain pitch and he might
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: get rocked, but he might not be out there like
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: he's trying to work on something. Like they they tried
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: the thing where Princely lined up over the slot receiver
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Josh Norris was bitching about this on Twitter over the
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: slot receiver and then had a very long way to
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: rush the passer and didn't get there, and then we
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: gave up a big pass play. Are they just taking
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: a look at that and did they see okay that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: They want to see certain situations that they can judge
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: if that works or not, like like taking the starter's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: out bone in the middle of the second drive, maybe
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: they hold him to a field goal.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: If they don't do that, like like s the face
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: penalty gave up some points. It did it, and right
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: after that though, they put all the backups in. It's
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: like that never happened. Like that never happens. You think
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: they go put all the backups in the regular season game.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen shredded him, not saying he wasn't doing worse. So, like,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: I just think there's a lot of things that we
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: got to remind ourselves. They're trying to look at stuff.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Like it was like when Bagel Guy earlier bone Bagel Guy.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: He was saying, I just realized we should say Bagel
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Guy and the cable guy and the voice of cable Guy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: But anyway, I don't know why, I just like it,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Remember the cable guy, Cable Guy, remember that? Okay, anyway,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Bagel Guy. Bagel Guy's like, why didn't they go max
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: protect when the offensive line because they're trying to test
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: the offensive lineman there. Now, I know it sucks because
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Bryce's health is attached, but like they're not mid game.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Trying to game plan within the game to win.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: They just want to look at individuals and stuff like that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: So anyway, that's that's why I guess we could chill
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: with the coaches. But Avera, if you do some of
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: that stuff, and like the cushion too. Also the fourth
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: and three cushion, Like is a vo telling them to
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: do that or shell Smith Wade doing that on his own?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: That was cushion. That was way too much cushion for
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the push on that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: That don't make any sense regular season precide, why you
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: give it.
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  Speaker 3: A that's always bothered me.
• 35:10
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• 35:22
  Speaker 2: we turn our attention to the Hornets. A trade was
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: made over the weekend for a backup point guard. What
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: do we think about the deal and what message does
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: this send to the fans? Sports Radio ninety two seven
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  Speaker 7: Jeff Peterson Definitely, we were busy this offseason, and so
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I think that the Hornets got better and obviously change
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: is going to be tough for some people, but I
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: think raw the mindset is, how do we just keep
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: moving this thing in the right direction. The Carolinas deserves
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: a really good basketball product, and we want to have
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: something that's sustainable and I think that we can a
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: year after year be competing in the playoffs for a championship.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: And so that's the road that we're going down, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: we'd love the support that we've actually gotten.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I'm with Kobe.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: We'll shock some people who will be better than people realize,
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: but ultimately we have to create our own expectations and
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: standards of how we want to operate within our hive,
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: and that's what's really going to drive us throughout the
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: whole year.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: That is Charles Lee hanging with us celebrating the schedule
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  Speaker 5: release Bone on Friday. We had a blast hanging out
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: with coach Lee. And that is the money clip right there.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: That is the one Bone that ended up circulating out
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: there on social media. Shout out to Hornets Reddit. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: feel like I can call my mom and say we
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: made it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: We were on Hornets Reddit. Oh hell yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Hornets Reddit is awesome, man. They get They clip everything
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: we need to hear as Hornets fans.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: They will probably clip this and in the next four minutes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure their day is just made now that they
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: got a shout out from Mack and Bone. But Charles
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Lee is not like that came from me asking the
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: question like, how do you respond to the national media
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: that says they made you know, they made great moves
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: for the long term, but they got worse for this season.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: And he ain't buying that. And I love hearing that
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: from my coach. He got me a little fired up Bone.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: And then they went out there later that day and
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: made the trade for Dennis Schreuder, Trey Man for Dennis
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Schruder and cash. It does cost a little bit more.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I do think that if they were not trying to
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: be competitive this season, Bone, they could have just let
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Christian Anderson learn on the job. They could have, Hey,
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: we'll put to give Sea on some reps there a
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: point guard. But they spent seven extra million dollars this
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: year in the exchange based on the salaries. So it
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: shows a little urgency that we are still trying to
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: compete even though we traded lamellow ball and we made
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: trades for future assets.
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  Speaker 3: I like it, man, I like this move.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And it was just a matter of time before Dennis
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Schuter ended up on the Hornets because macke is tied
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: now with playing for twelve teams in his career with
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenberg, Joe Smith and Garrett Temple.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: They're all one behind the all time leader. It's Smith
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: for most teams played for. Oh Man, I don't want
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to get rid of you, but if we do, you
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: got you might hit to hit the tight at all
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  Speaker 2: time record.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Trude. He's often traded.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Whether it's because he wears out his welcome, or he's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: got a contract that's tradable, or he's expendable. They're all
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: different reasons. I've always liked him though, I know that
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: some people don't like it. I've always liked him though
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: because I feel like he always produces. He always contributes,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and right now I don't know mech if we have
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of room to be picky about that backup
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: point guards pop because it's a pretty dire area. So
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: adding shooter in there, I think there's upside. And you
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: wait until Dennis Shrewder or Greatson Allen team up and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: bother the other team off the bet.
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  Speaker 5: I'm here for baby, I'd like you. I don't think listen,
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I saw a lot of nitpicking of this deal. I'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: asking the Hornets fans out there, like hit us up
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: seven oh four five, seven oh nine, six ten.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know your thoughts on it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: I just am glad they did this because again it
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: does show that, hey, we acknowledge if we want to
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: compete this year, we needed a veteran backup Anderson I
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: think we found out in the summer bone. I like
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: the way he played in that final game, but I
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: think every Hornets fan thought, man, he needs time still.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: You can even send him to Greensboro this year, you
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, give him some time there if
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: they need to. I think se On like we didn't
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: want to see that experiment anymore. I don't think you
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: can deny the the that the second unit got better.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Now listen, are there. Is he the most efficient offensive player?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: No?
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Is he a great shooter? No, but he averaged eleven
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: and five last year. He I love him defense like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: he is a guy with a motor. Defensively, he is
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: a guy that on ball defensively will get into your shorts.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: And I don't think we necessarily have that strictly strictly
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: in a platonic basketball set, sir, so I like that element.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: And he's just a veteran. I think he can create
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: shots for others. And by the way, he's an attitude
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: he does. He has a little swag to him, a
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: little feistiness to him. Got that long wingspan that helps
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: him defensively, six to eight wingspan. He's gonna play with
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: a lot of shooters, so I know he's not a
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: great three point shooter. Like I think last year he
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: is thirty three percent. I think he's thirty four percent
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: for his career. But I think if he sets up,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: he's gonna play with shooters Grayson Allen, Royce, O'Neill, you know, Grant, Williams,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Miller or con when they're in there with him. So
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I feel like he can play off those shooters. It
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: helps us, man, it makes us better.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Fiddy, do you have some game show music you can
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: play for me real quick? If you have it. If not,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it's all good. Give me a sight.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: We're gonna play mag a game called Shrewd Moves. I'm
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: gonna ask you, can you name all twelve teams that
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Dennis Sruter has played for? How many can I get?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: How many can you get?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Oh? Man, where's our game show music?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Let's get to I can't think I did it on
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the fly, so it's not Fitty's fault.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I can't think without game show.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind that the Hornets will be twelve. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: who are the other eleven?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Dars?
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland, Sacramento? Right, those are the two most recent. You
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: got that one La the Hawks in Brooklyn because he
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: was with That's part of the tie in here is
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Jeff Peterson, hammer tight from Atlanta and Brooklyn both. So
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: now I'm at five.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. If I'm don't you, I can help
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you out. What do you got? Boston? Got it? Boston? Yeah?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: And we need what a seventh team?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately we're half We're halfway through now, yeah, we gotta
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: get to twelve.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Half way through, we gotta get to twelve. What were
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the ones that Mac named? All right, this is is
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: heart to keep tracks.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I'll go through these Oklahoma City, the Wakers, the Celtics,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets, Toronto, I was gonna say Toronto, Brooklyn,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the Warriors, the Pistons, the Kings, the Caves, and now
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the Horns.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Actually, bone, this segment would have been easier if you'd
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: told us to guess the teams he has not been
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: on have been a quicker segment.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: We're gonna play it Schmid's tomorrow.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, he is. Yeah, he is the new
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: is another it's all the shrewd moves. We will never
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: play that again.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: He is the new ish.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: This texter says, yell about as bad as Barkley on
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: who he played for?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Who hasn't he played for?
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's a shrewd moves just solid man,
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: not spectacular, but solid and needed. By the way, A
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: texter says, uh, where's he at here? Texter would like
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: a Musa. We have a texture that would like a
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Musa bone move. So he wants you to say moussa.
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  Speaker 3: They were baby. There we go.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You know I've heard Walker mailed. You got to copy her.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: That's copyrighted by him. When you do that, you got
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Musa like that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: First, I love Johnson for ec I gotta pay royalties.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: For No, you got to pay you gotta pay Walker
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on this station to say that Walker is he's the
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  Speaker 2: official agent of Musa.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Walker salivated.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Walker can't even say Musa because he's salivating, like he's
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: like he's heating a bone in ribby steak at the palm.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's just panting like a dog over the
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: thought of Moosa Ball and Matt.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: We've given our opinions on the Panthers All Show. Now
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go and get a guest take on it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Aaron Duncan of the Unnecessary Bluttonist podcast Dunk will give
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: us his take on the good, the bad, and the
• 43:45
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