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[BONUS] Beyond the Finish Line: Des Linden & Molly Huddle On Redefining Success in Running & Life, LIVE From Every Woman's Marathon · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: This year, I will have made a baby, ran a marathon,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like writing a book, Like what's wrong with me?
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Speaker 1: Like why am I feeling like that's.
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Speaker 2: Not enough stuff?
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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, Emily Baudi here pop it in with a
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Speaker 3: special bonus episode of Hurdle, a podcast where you'll get
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Speaker 3: the true stories and mindset lessons of the most inspiring
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Speaker 3: women in sports and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier,
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Speaker 3: more motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles
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Speaker 3: along the way. This episode was recorded live at every
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Speaker 3: Woman's Marathon in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I am so excited
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Speaker 3: to bring it to the feed.
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Speaker 2: For it, I am chatting.
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Speaker 3: With Molly Huddle, her first ever appearance on the show.
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Speaker 3: A pro runner for Socany, Molly told the line of
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Speaker 3: every Woman's Marathon, checking off her first marathon since having
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Speaker 3: her second child just six months ago.
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Speaker 2: Wow wow wow Wow.
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Speaker 3: Also a part of today's episode, Des Linden, a favorite
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Speaker 3: of many a past Hurdle guest. She is the twenty
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Speaker 3: eighteen at Boston Marathon champion, as well as co host
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Speaker 3: of Nobody Asked Us with Destin Kara along with Carrik Goucher.
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Speaker 3: So many things I could say and accolades I could
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Speaker 3: highlight about these women in this intro, but.
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Speaker 2: Want to keep things short and sweet.
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Speaker 3: The conversation not just advice for aspiring marathoners, but also
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Speaker 3: so many outstanding takeaways on how to show up and
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Speaker 3: do hard things, self belief and the importance of being
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Speaker 3: honest with yourself, knowing when to pivot from a goal,
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Speaker 3: and how to talk to yourself with compassion. Make sure
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Speaker 3: you're following along with Hurdle over on social It's at
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Speaker 2: I am over at Emily Abodi.
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Speaker 3: at iHeart Women's Sports. And listen to Hurdle with Emily
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Speaker 3: Body on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
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Speaker 3: get your podcasts. And with that, let's get to it.
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Speaker 3: Let's get to hurdling. Hello, Hello, Hey everyone. My name
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Speaker 3: is Emily A.
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Speaker 2: Body. I host a podcast called Hurdle.
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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here today with all of
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Speaker 3: you at the Every Woman's Marathon Expo. Show up hands
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Speaker 3: if you're running on Sunday, that's what we love to see. Well,
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Speaker 3: we are here to give you some inspiration. But before
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Speaker 3: we get into it, of course, I've got to introduce
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Speaker 3: these two rock stars next to me. First, up to
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Speaker 3: my left, two time Olympian author podcaster Molly Huddle. Next
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Speaker 3: to Mollie des Lindon twenty eighteen Boston Marathon champion, also
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Speaker 3: an Olympian herself, author podcaster Mollie long overdue first appearance
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Speaker 3: on Hurdle Welcome, Yes.
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Speaker 4: Thanks, so happy to finally be meeting you and talking
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Speaker 4: in person.
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Speaker 3: So happy to be finally meeting you and talking in person.
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Speaker 3: I always like to level set so everyone can be
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Speaker 3: on the same page as we get into this combo today.
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Speaker 2: How are you doing really?
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Speaker 1: I just had my second baby six months ago, so
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Speaker 1: obviously very sleep deprived and doing a lot of just
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Speaker 1: baby schedule, breastfeeding, wrangling two kids, but managing to get
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Speaker 1: some runs in so I can feel sane.
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Speaker 2: Some runs in so I can feel sane.
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Speaker 3: And you also were just sharing with me backstage that
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Speaker 3: you took your first plane ride with your six month old.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it went well. I was nervous about it, but
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Speaker 1: everything went smoothly. Just a lot of juggling back and
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Speaker 1: forth with my husband, but yeah, nobody pooped. Anywhere or
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Speaker 1: peed anywhere or head of tantrum. It was just chill,
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Speaker 1: So that was good.
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Speaker 3: As long as all of the things are confined, it's
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Speaker 3: all good. It's all good. Does how are you doing?
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Speaker 2: Really doing great?
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Speaker 5: I feel like the last time we had this question
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Speaker 5: answer scenario was in Boston before my final pro marathon,
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Speaker 5: So last time I was like, oh good, but I
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Speaker 5: was really sad. So yeah, I'm good now and feeling
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Speaker 5: relaxed and excited for an exciting weekend where I don't
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Speaker 5: have any nerves, but I'm like kind of anxious, nervous
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Speaker 5: for all of you, which will be a really fun
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Speaker 5: marathon on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if I can ever actually trust
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Speaker 3: Dez ever again, because I woke up on that marathon
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Speaker 3: Monday and saw the news and thought, Wow, my buddy
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Speaker 3: just totally left me in the dark.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't cool? Wasn't cool? Never again? Never again? Never again?
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 3: Now, I'll hold you to that now, as you both said, obviously,
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Speaker 3: just had.
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Speaker 2: Your second baby.
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Speaker 3: Does transitioning out of pro marathoning big transitionary period for
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Speaker 3: both of you? How are you feeling getting back into
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Speaker 3: the swing of things?
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Speaker 1: Molly I'm feeling like I'm just trying to keep it
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Speaker 1: fun in what I can handle. I feel like physically
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Speaker 1: it's just a lot, like your energy is just kind
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Speaker 1: of gone. You're not sleeping a lot. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: the breastfeeding is just taxing. So I've been doing just
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Speaker 1: the training that makes me feel good and not to
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Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, you know, overdoing it and
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Speaker 1: feeling more tired and just not able to come home
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Speaker 1: and take care of everyone like I have to. So
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Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird middle ground. But I feel
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Speaker 1: good with it.
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Speaker 3: Feel like question mark, I think I feel okay, Am
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Speaker 3: I okay?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you okay? But things feel different? Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: things feel different.
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Speaker 4: I'm not as fit as i'd like.
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the level of workouts I'm used to,
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Speaker 1: but I think that's just where I'm at right now,
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Speaker 1: and I'd definitely rather be doing this than not doing
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Speaker 1: it at all.
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Speaker 3: So what has been the most surprising thing for you
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Speaker 3: in this come back to running postpartum?
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Speaker 4: I think, just like.
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Speaker 1: When you have, yeah, an extra person to worry about, you,
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Speaker 1: just do you have that much less energy?
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Speaker 4: And it just Yeah, I didn't think it could get
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Speaker 4: harder but it did.
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Speaker 1: But it's a phase and I think it just will
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Speaker 1: get easier as the months go on and things are good.
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Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's just it's like the physicality of
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Speaker 1: young kids is with a surprise to me, I guess.
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Speaker 3: Right, and a whole other training component to the training plan.
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Speaker 3: Of course, now does in your transition Obviously things will
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Speaker 3: look a little bit different for you now as you're
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Speaker 3: scaling up your mileage for different types of challenges.
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Speaker 2: Give us some insight into how things are.
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Speaker 3: Different now that you're not competing on that pro level.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it's much more about what's fun,
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Speaker 5: what's interesting, what's going to motivate me, and just redefining that,
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Speaker 5: you know, I think for so long it was performance
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Speaker 5: and trying to push yourself and comparing yourself with the
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Speaker 5: best in the world, and you're always measuring and focusing
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Speaker 5: in on how can I be better? How can I
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Speaker 5: y at my best? And now it's like what is fun,
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Speaker 5: what's interesting? And I'm curious about the long distance, I'm
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Speaker 5: curious about the trail. Although I went on a really
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Speaker 5: good trail and run with somebodies after a wedding and
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Speaker 5: took it just a face plant, cracked my knee, So
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Speaker 5: maybe the trail doesn't love me back already.
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Speaker 2: I'm learning, but that's okay.
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Speaker 5: I think the longer distances are intriguing and now I
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Speaker 5: feel like I need to go spend more time on
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Speaker 5: the trails to try and master it. And so it's
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Speaker 5: just what moves me at the moment, and I think
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Speaker 5: that that's a fun place to be. And instead of
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Speaker 5: you know, fine tuning and dialing everything into you know,
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Speaker 5: high performance and being very specific about.
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Speaker 2: That, finding the fun. We love that.
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Speaker 3: And you did find some fun recently in New York
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Speaker 3: City running the New York City Marathon alongside Hamilton's Anthony
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Speaker 3: Ramos Dez ran that marathon a bit slower than her
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Speaker 3: normal marathon, in four hours and forty four minutes.
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Speaker 2: The difference is there. Talk to me, is one harder
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Speaker 2: than the other?
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Speaker 3: Is it harder to run us up to thirty marathon
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Speaker 3: then a four forty four?
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Speaker 4: They're very different.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say one is specifically harder than the other.
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Speaker 5: They're both very challenging. I wasn't planning on running the
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Speaker 5: full thing with Anthony. I was planning on doing the
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Speaker 5: fifty miler and then I had this knee thing pop up,
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Speaker 5: and I was gonna run like ten to twelve miles
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Speaker 5: with him. As we got closer to the race, I
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Speaker 5: realized that I was gonna kind of be leaving him
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Speaker 5: at a point where it starts to get hard, and
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Speaker 5: I was like, I don't really understand how the exit
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Speaker 5: strategy is gonna work.
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Speaker 2: Like, okay, I know.
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Speaker 6: It's really tough, see you later, good luck, go get him.
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Speaker 5: So I sort of wrapped my mind around the idea
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Speaker 5: that I would be in there all day, and then
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Speaker 5: it was just like, how can we make this fun?
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Speaker 5: I had a beer at one point, I brought him candy,
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Speaker 5: I brought a pen for him so he could sign autographs,
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Speaker 5: and it was great. It was just like four and
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Speaker 5: a half hours of all of us yelling like let's go,
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Speaker 5: and then the last you know, several minutes were me
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Speaker 5: yelling at him like you got this, you can do it,
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Speaker 5: stay strong. So it was very emotionally exhausting in a
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Speaker 5: way that you know, at sub two point thirty is
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Speaker 5: not just physically exhausting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's probably some really applicable takeaways here
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Speaker 3: that we can use when we talk about the context
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Speaker 3: of what some of these women are going to be
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Speaker 3: doing on Sunday, Right, we know that you're going to
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Speaker 3: show up and you're going to be out there for
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Speaker 3: a while, and you're going to be doing a hard thing.
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Speaker 3: When you're in the pain cave, Molly, what comes to
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Speaker 3: mind for you? Do you have anything that you return
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Speaker 3: to time and time again? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do for that is
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Speaker 1: to just stay in the moment. I feel like a
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Speaker 1: lot of times you want to get out of that
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Speaker 1: moment and distract yourself. But whenever I think ahead to like,
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Speaker 1: oh I want this to be over, when will I
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Speaker 1: be at the end? I almost feel worse. So I
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Speaker 1: kind of just let it like flow through me, like
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Speaker 1: this is uncomfortable. I just kind of have to steep
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Speaker 1: in it. That's the challenge of the marathon. Make it,
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Speaker 1: my friend, it's very zen. You have to get zen
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Speaker 1: about the marathon because it's like mentally, it's just it
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Speaker 1: can really be intimidating if you don't have like that
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Speaker 1: kind of approach of like I'm.
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Speaker 4: One with this race, this feeling is part of me.
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Speaker 4: It's okay, we're gonna do this, We're gonna get through this.
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Speaker 4: So that's been my.
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Speaker 1: Go to just kind of stay in the mile, stay
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Speaker 1: in that moment, run with your animal.
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Speaker 2: Brain, run with your animal brain.
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Speaker 4: You don't think, you just you're like a deer. You're
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Speaker 4: just like run, I just run.
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Speaker 3: Never have I ever heard this before, but I'm interested
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Speaker 3: in it. Okay, And so then let's take this a
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Speaker 3: step further. When you're out there and you're in the
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Speaker 3: pain cave and things aren't going as you'd hoped, that
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Speaker 3: definitely takes a little bit of mental gymnastics, as is
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Speaker 3: that something that you've dealt with before, and if so,
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Speaker 3: how did you learn from that experience?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all get really latched onto
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Speaker 5: our goals, and there's things that make us have to pivot.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the weather. Sometimes it's the training block, going
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Speaker 5: not to plan. Sometimes it's in the moment where you
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Speaker 5: see your goals slipping away and you want to be like, well,
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Speaker 5: the goal's gone, so maybe I should just step off.
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Speaker 5: But I think that you can learn so much from
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Speaker 5: those moments and pushing through even when it's not going
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Speaker 5: your way, Like how can you pivot? How can you reevaluate?
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Speaker 5: How can you redefine what you want to get out
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Speaker 5: of a day.
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Speaker 2: And I think.
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Speaker 5: That's really important for me as a performance athlete. It's
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Speaker 5: always like, Okay, this is not a good day. How
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Speaker 5: good can I make my bad day? You know, like
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Speaker 5: what can I get out of something that's not going
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Speaker 5: my way? And I think that's really applicable to like
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Speaker 5: life as a whole, Like what do I do when
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Speaker 5: things are stacked against me?
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Speaker 2: How do I respond to when it's difficult?
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Speaker 5: But I also think at the other side of where
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Speaker 5: I'm in my career now, it's like maybe it's just
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Speaker 5: going out and having a ton of fun, like high
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Speaker 5: five of your friends, help somebody out, make a friend
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Speaker 5: on their course. Like, there's all kinds of different pivots
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Speaker 5: to make it a positive, successful experience even though the
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Speaker 5: a goal slips away.
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Speaker 3: Molly, I know that you also have certainly had moments,
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Speaker 3: as we all have, where things haven't gone according to plan.
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Speaker 3: How have you been able to mentally rebound, either in
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Speaker 3: the heat of the moment during a race to get
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Speaker 3: the best out of that opportunity possible, or even you know,
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Speaker 3: in the moments, hours, days, weeks after it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think mid race it's hard.
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Speaker 1: I think it's good to have kind of contingency plans
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Speaker 1: like what's my agle beagle seagal. Some are process oriented,
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Speaker 1: some are more time based. You know, have that variety
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Speaker 1: to kind of get you through and then afterwards, I
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Speaker 1: think just learning from it, Like if you can look
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Speaker 1: back and say, well, like here's here's what I did
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Speaker 1: to prepare, how could I do that better? Here's maybe
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Speaker 1: what caused what made me unhappy, and use it to
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Speaker 1: make you a better athlete, or at the very least
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Speaker 1: just kind of like solidify your why of doing it
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Speaker 1: for next time. I think definitely you can grow from
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Speaker 1: it no matter what happens. Definitely, just like reflecting on
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Speaker 1: things and giving yourself time to be bummed, for sure,
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Speaker 1: because you all put a lot of work into it.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of energy and time going into training
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Speaker 1: even just getting to the start line. So for sure
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Speaker 1: it's a vulnerable thing to be like I'm getting ready
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Speaker 1: to take to tackle this. It might or might not
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Speaker 1: happen totally.
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Speaker 3: And to your point, a lot of opportunity costs right
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Speaker 3: as well, Like you've put in not only so much work,
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Speaker 3: but you've made these conscious decisions day in and day
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Speaker 3: out to do things differently. So that you could set
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Speaker 3: yourself up for this goal. I mentioned podcasting, both of
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Speaker 3: you podcasting also both of you authors. How has diversifying
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Speaker 3: your portfolio, if you will, made you feel does it
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Speaker 3: make you kind of revisit the identity of you as
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Speaker 3: a runner?
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Speaker 2: What's going on there?
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Speaker 1: I think it's just fun to be able to use
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Speaker 1: other skills, use other parts of yourself, do some storytelling,
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Speaker 1: engage with the community in different ways.
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Speaker 2: I've kind of always.
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Speaker 4: Felt that way throughout my running career.
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Speaker 1: But I think I only have given myself permission to
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Speaker 1: kind of do it later, once you've really felt like
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Speaker 1: you've given it one hundred percent. On the competitive side,
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what else can I do with this?
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Speaker 1: And what's interest? Like?
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Speaker 2: What does said? What's interesting?
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Speaker 4: What's I mean, that's kind of what motivates me?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 4: What's interesting?
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Speaker 1: I'm curious and just it's actually a bigger world outside
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Speaker 1: of the elite scope that's a very narrow piece of this.
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Speaker 1: And so it's been really fun to just engage with
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Speaker 1: more of the running community and talk to people about
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Speaker 1: different perspectives and learn so much. I feel like one
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Speaker 1: thing a lot of what I do with my podcast
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Speaker 1: in books, as I talk to like women's sports research,
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Speaker 1: women's health research experts, and it's been cool to just
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Speaker 1: meet so many really smart people doing some great things
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Speaker 1: for the sport.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 3: And you know, so interesting does with your podcast when
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Speaker 3: we were both in Tokyo, like you were there for
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Speaker 3: podcasting right among some other things. A very different avenue
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Speaker 3: to still be in the circuit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really fun.
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Speaker 5: I think one thing, with the professional side and the
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Speaker 5: performance side, it feels really selfish. You know, like all
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Speaker 5: the decisions you're making are around your training, around your performance,
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Speaker 5: or around your habits or around you know, it's me, me,
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Speaker 5: me all the time, so that I can get the
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Speaker 5: most out of myself, extract the most out of myself
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Speaker 5: on race day and then that result you go, like
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Speaker 5: you share it with your team. But it feels a lot,
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Speaker 5: you know, after a lot of years, it can feel
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Speaker 5: pretty self centered. So I think this is a really
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Speaker 5: nice way to tell other stories or to you know,
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Speaker 5: be around for other people or elevate other athletes performances.
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Speaker 5: And so it's nice to have that, to just share
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Speaker 5: different parts of the sport.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's it's very.
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Speaker 5: Fulfilling and maybe it's selfish to dig into that and
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Speaker 5: be like, oh, this is a nice way to like
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Speaker 5: engage in the sport for myself. But also it's not
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Speaker 5: my stories anymore, it's other folks, So hopefully it's giving
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Speaker 5: back to a degree.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel, Mollie that you experienced a little bit
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Speaker 3: of that too, like feeling as though your training was.
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Speaker 2: A little bit selfish at times? Totally?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just in at least sport is inherently unbalanced.
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Speaker 1: Your life is really unbalanced. Your whole life revolves around
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Speaker 1: you know, how fast you can be, which is a
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Speaker 1: really small part of yourself. And don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, you know, when it's giving stuff back
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Speaker 1: to you, when you're making progress and results, like you
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Speaker 1: feel so alive, like it's amazing, but it is. It's
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Speaker 1: you know, your my husband didn't work. He just your
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Speaker 1: husband's a huge support too, Like that's why we got
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Speaker 1: to where we did. We had someone in our life
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Speaker 1: supporting us, like twenty four to seven. You know, so
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Speaker 1: not a lot of female athletes have that. Actually, you
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Speaker 1: know a lot of the male athletes you see out
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Speaker 1: on the football field on the basketball court, like they
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Speaker 1: have their family helps them get there. So I'm glad
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Speaker 1: that we can kind of live for each other, like he's.
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Speaker 2: Not all in on me anymore.
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Speaker 1: We had a great journey, but I feel like things
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Speaker 1: are more balanced now, and definitely that selfishness can be
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Speaker 1: hard to get around sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Those support systems such an integral part to being able
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Speaker 3: to show up and do your best and also support
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Speaker 3: you during your training. Something else that I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of people here today are thinking about when it
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Speaker 3: comes to running the marathon is going out there and
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Speaker 3: feeling their most confident self, something that you both know
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Speaker 3: very well. You've had to hype yourself up before big races.
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Speaker 3: When you think about some of the ways that you
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Speaker 3: feel you're most confident before you tow a starting line,
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Speaker 3: what comes to mind.
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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Daz.
17:08
Speaker 5: I kind of dig into the preparation and something that
17:11
Speaker 5: I do ahead of time is write out a race plan.
17:14
Speaker 5: So I look at where I started, where I've gotten
17:17
Speaker 5: to in the build up, and then I write out
17:19
Speaker 5: my race plan for you know, obviously race morning, all
17:21
Speaker 5: the way through to the finish line, and the decisions
17:24
Speaker 5: I want to make so that when it gets art
17:25
Speaker 5: out there, I'm not negotiating, I'm not bargaining with myself,
17:29
Speaker 5: and so I think once I can take that off
17:31
Speaker 5: the table, I feel really confident that I can just
17:33
Speaker 5: go and stick to a plan.
17:35
Speaker 2: And it's not like based on.
17:37
Speaker 5: Anyone else's decisions or what they're doing out there. It's
17:40
Speaker 5: really just focused on myself, like what decisions do I
17:43
Speaker 5: want to make so that I could get to the
17:44
Speaker 5: finish line feeling like I had a great performance, and
17:48
Speaker 5: so that helps me feel confident on the start line
17:50
Speaker 5: all the way through to the finish.
17:52
Speaker 3: Was there an experience where you learn the importance of
17:55
Speaker 3: doing that? Because I feel like that is such a
17:57
Speaker 3: valuable takeaway. It's like I know now that I want
18:00
Speaker 3: to go into this specific moment and have my race
18:03
Speaker 3: plan and visualize it in this way. But typically speaking,
18:06
Speaker 3: usually something has to go wrong for you to get
18:08
Speaker 3: to this place where you say, Okay, this is what
18:09
Speaker 3: I'm going to do the next time.
18:11
Speaker 6: Yeah.
18:11
Speaker 5: I mean I started doing that in college, and it's
18:14
Speaker 5: something that you can work on and it's just like
18:18
Speaker 5: the marathon itself. There's all these little tools that you'll
18:20
Speaker 5: learn how to tweak it and make it better and
18:22
Speaker 5: refine it, and you're never going to write the perfect
18:24
Speaker 5: race plan.
18:25
Speaker 2: But that's kind of the point is you go back
18:26
Speaker 2: and you look.
18:27
Speaker 5: At the moments and you're like, well, I didn't do
18:29
Speaker 5: it quite right here. How can I write this plan
18:31
Speaker 5: better so that next time, like the bargaining's gone, like
18:35
Speaker 5: this is what I should have been thinking.
18:36
Speaker 6: And so it's a process just like the marathon.
18:39
Speaker 5: But I think getting that first one down and giving
18:41
Speaker 5: yourself a tool to work with out there is super helpful.
18:44
Speaker 5: And then you look back at it and you go,
18:46
Speaker 5: where did I have make really good decisions?
18:48
Speaker 2: And what can I be better at?
18:49
Speaker 5: And how can I use this plan to help me
18:51
Speaker 5: have a better plan on the race course.
18:53
Speaker 3: The thing that's interesting though, is like, let's even go
18:55
Speaker 3: to twenty eighteen Boston. Like you probably you definitely had
18:59
Speaker 3: a race play and for that day, right, and things
19:01
Speaker 3: at one point felt like they went out the window.
19:04
Speaker 3: Then you were able to come back and pivot and
19:07
Speaker 3: embrace what was working to your advantage on that day.
19:10
Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, I have the plan, but what
19:12
Speaker 3: happens if the plan was out the window?
19:14
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be a plan that you just totally throw
19:17
Speaker 5: out right, Like there's moments where you make decisions that
19:20
Speaker 5: you're like, that's probably not it next time. You need
19:22
Speaker 5: to be better here, here, and here. But then you
19:24
Speaker 5: get back on the plan. You know, It's just like
19:26
Speaker 5: if you miss a day in training, You're not like, oh,
19:28
Speaker 5: I need to make that up before I can move forward.
19:30
Speaker 5: You just what's the next thing on the schedule. Let's
19:33
Speaker 5: go there and make sure that I'm doing that right. So,
19:35
Speaker 5: like Molly was saying earlier, it's not like what do
19:38
Speaker 5: I how much.
19:39
Speaker 2: Do I have left? Or what decisions did I make wrong?
19:41
Speaker 2: It's just be very.
19:42
Speaker 5: Zen what do I need to do right now? And
19:45
Speaker 5: so it's staying in that moment.
19:47
Speaker 2: Staying in that moment now.
19:48
Speaker 3: Obviously being out there for the marathon is a lot
19:50
Speaker 3: different than being out there for the ten k the
19:52
Speaker 3: five k events that both of you have experienced. With
19:55
Speaker 3: Molly on the track for quite some time. How for
19:58
Speaker 3: you has it been different in that transition of going
20:01
Speaker 3: from the track diligently to now in this later phase
20:05
Speaker 3: of your career really being more on the roads.
20:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the roads are definitely something I had
20:09
Speaker 1: to learn to be better at. I mean I was
20:10
Speaker 1: used to like the data of the track every lap.
20:13
Speaker 1: You know, to me, that's like a safe space because
20:14
Speaker 1: you're just like I get to click off laps, I
20:16
Speaker 1: can't get too far off pace in the roads are
20:19
Speaker 1: just there can be a harder feel to them. You
20:20
Speaker 1: can be feeling like you're very far away from things sometimes.
20:24
Speaker 1: But then I got comfortable with the roads, and then
20:26
Speaker 1: the marathon is a whole nother sport. So I had
20:29
Speaker 1: to really like still wrapping my head around the marathon,
20:31
Speaker 1: you know, just the pacing, the mental strategies with the marathon.
20:36
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just such a like a U
20:38
Speaker 1: verse you thing every time you go out. So it's
20:41
Speaker 1: a challenge that I see why it keeps people coming back,
20:43
Speaker 1: because it's like it's just such a big challenge.
20:45
Speaker 3: You said something very important, the mental strategies of the marathon,
20:49
Speaker 3: something that I would be remiss if we didn't unpack
20:51
Speaker 3: here with two great women marathoners, let's talk about perhaps
20:57
Speaker 3: maybe your most helpful tip when it comes to approaching
21:01
Speaker 3: the mental side of things racing twenty six point two miles.
21:05
Speaker 2: Does what comes to mind for.
21:06
Speaker 5: You wrapping your head around the fact that it's going
21:09
Speaker 5: to be difficult, Like you signed up for a very
21:11
Speaker 5: challenging thing. That's why it's so meaningful you when you
21:14
Speaker 5: cross the finish line. So I think for me, it's
21:16
Speaker 5: just reminding myself at the start and then throughout the day.
21:19
Speaker 5: You know, you didn't train so that this would be
21:21
Speaker 5: something easy. You train so you'd be prepared for when
21:25
Speaker 5: it got difficult, and just trust that training. Believe that
21:28
Speaker 5: you're prepared so when the challenging moment comes, when the
21:30
Speaker 5: difficult moment comes, you can look at in the eyes
21:32
Speaker 5: and say, I am ready for this. This is why
21:34
Speaker 5: I trained, this is why I did the twenty mile
21:36
Speaker 5: long runs. All of the things you put in to
21:38
Speaker 5: get there. You're prepared for that moment, but don't expect
21:41
Speaker 5: it to be easy. Just know that when it shows up,
21:43
Speaker 5: you're ready.
21:44
Speaker 2: And it shows up, you're ready.
21:46
Speaker 3: Mollie, what's the mental gymnastics that you go through on
21:49
Speaker 3: the marathon course?
21:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it can be hard to wrap your head around,
21:53
Speaker 1: you know, just the attention span, like it starts to
21:55
Speaker 1: wane right when you start to get tired. You're like, Okay,
21:57
Speaker 1: I've been out here for two three hours, and like
21:59
Speaker 1: it's just getting harder and harder.
22:01
Speaker 2: So I like to just like wipe the slate clean.
22:03
Speaker 4: Every like twenty or thirty minutes and just play.
22:06
Speaker 1: Mental tricks and like bottle to bottle, Like we get
22:08
Speaker 1: fuel bottles every like five k. I like to just
22:11
Speaker 1: think bottle to bottle and then you know, just focus
22:14
Speaker 1: in that small chunk and then you get sort of
22:16
Speaker 1: like a refreshing burst with the bottle. You can pretend
22:18
Speaker 1: you're starting over again. So whatever your fuel strategy is,
22:20
Speaker 1: you go from like you know, fuel to fuel and
22:23
Speaker 1: just keep the race in those small chunks. That's helped
22:26
Speaker 1: me a lot. Yeah, just kind of have a mantra
22:28
Speaker 1: for that last ten k. I feel like that helps
22:29
Speaker 1: a lot too.
22:30
Speaker 2: What's the mantra.
22:32
Speaker 1: Mine's usually changes a little bit, but it's usually just
22:34
Speaker 1: simple and positive, like those are the two important pieces,
22:36
Speaker 1: and it's just something that can if you're saying it
22:38
Speaker 1: over and over, you don't have room to think bad
22:40
Speaker 1: things like I want to stop, so like you're fine,
22:43
Speaker 1: or stay here.
22:44
Speaker 2: Stay here?
22:44
Speaker 1: Is when I like, just stay here or hang on
22:47
Speaker 1: if someone's in front of me, things like that, and
22:49
Speaker 1: I just say it over and over again for like
22:51
Speaker 1: half an hour.
22:52
Speaker 3: Calm, Calm, Calm, Relax, Relax, Relax, that's mine.
22:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of boring. I don't think it's boring.
22:59
Speaker 3: I think to Molly's point, it's it's a mantra that
23:02
Speaker 3: doesn't take mental energy to like repeat to yourself, if
23:05
Speaker 3: that makes sense, it's not. I always laugh, you know
23:09
Speaker 3: when you when you talk to someone and it's a
23:12
Speaker 3: paragraph long, It's like, how do you remember that when
23:14
Speaker 3: you're out there and struggling for that entire time?
23:17
Speaker 1: And I nearly don't want it to be too emotional,
23:18
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say my kids names or anything.
23:20
Speaker 1: I just want to be like, stay, you're strong. Stay
23:23
Speaker 1: like something simple like a pep talk, kind of.
23:25
Speaker 2: Like a pep talk. You'll need a pep talk.
23:28
Speaker 3: You going out there this Sunday to run this marathon?
23:31
Speaker 3: What's this marathon mean to you? And how are you feeling?
23:33
Speaker 4: For me? I feel okay.
23:35
Speaker 1: I did basically a couple of long runs and mostly
23:39
Speaker 1: like shorter workouts, so I'm not super prepared to run hard.
23:42
Speaker 4: But it was a good sized.
23:43
Speaker 1: Challenge to get me back into running after having my
23:46
Speaker 1: daughter six months ago. And there are just a lot
23:49
Speaker 1: of things about the race that lit me up, like
23:50
Speaker 1: I love coming to Scottsdale. I have fun memories of
23:53
Speaker 1: training here during my pro career and for fifteen years,
23:56
Speaker 1: you know, we'd come in the winter and train really
23:58
Speaker 1: hard on this very course to this very course on
24:01
Speaker 1: the Greenway on the canal. And then Soccany is the
24:04
Speaker 1: sponsor of the race, and so it's opened up opportunities
24:07
Speaker 1: for me here to do some things for Soccany, which
24:10
Speaker 1: is great, and I just you know, have some friends
24:13
Speaker 1: I love to come visit down here. And then I'm
24:15
Speaker 1: doing fundraising for four all mothers. I always like to
24:19
Speaker 1: hop in and do something for four our mothers every year,
24:21
Speaker 1: and this presented itself as a great, great timing. So
24:24
Speaker 1: just lots of things that were like green flags, and
24:27
Speaker 1: so I'm very happy to be here doing this and
24:29
Speaker 1: getting a marathon in, which is everyone like it got
24:33
Speaker 1: me out the door for the last six months. So
24:35
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what happens on Sunday, like, I'm
24:37
Speaker 1: happy for.
24:38
Speaker 3: What it did for me, just getting a marathon in,
24:41
Speaker 3: you know, bigger than that, though, your first marathon since
24:48
Speaker 3: having your daughter and six months after doing so. When
24:54
Speaker 3: I say that to you and I repeat that to you,
24:55
Speaker 3: how does that make you feel?
24:57
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like much time what that level set
25:01
Speaker 2: right now.
25:01
Speaker 1: It felt like a long time, and then when you
25:03
Speaker 1: look back, you're like, that was I was only I've
25:05
Speaker 1: only been running a couple months, so I think it's
25:08
Speaker 1: you know, it's given me a lot of freedom. I've
25:10
Speaker 1: taken a lot of pressure off. You know, just to
25:13
Speaker 1: do a marathon is a big thing, and I feel
25:14
Speaker 1: like I'm appreciating that right now. And it's funny, like
25:19
Speaker 1: in the doldrums after having a baby, when you're just like,
25:21
Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're getting much done. But then
25:23
Speaker 1: I look back this year, I will have made a baby,
25:25
Speaker 1: ran a marathon, and I'm like writing a book, like
25:27
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? Like why am I feeling like
25:29
Speaker 1: that's not enough?
25:30
Speaker 2: Stuff?
25:30
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's good to remind yourself you.
25:33
Speaker 3: Have nothing going on, MOLLI, Yeah, why does it need
25:36
Speaker 3: to be more than that?
25:39
Speaker 2: Duys, You'll be out there cheering on Sunday.
25:41
Speaker 5: It's been fun to be on that side of the
25:43
Speaker 5: sport more frequently now. I mean even in the past
25:46
Speaker 5: being an ambassador has been great. But you know, obviously
25:49
Speaker 5: watching that finish line last year and Savannah was incredible.
25:54
Speaker 5: I feel like the energy and the emotion was just
25:56
Speaker 5: like heightened by people experiencing the marathon for the first time.
26:00
Speaker 5: There's so many first timers and people maybe just at
26:03
Speaker 5: the beginning of this thought like I can't do it,
26:06
Speaker 5: and now you can look back at where you started,
26:09
Speaker 5: how the build up went, and when you cross the
26:11
Speaker 5: finish line on Sunday, it's just it's going to be spectacular.
26:14
Speaker 5: And that energy last year is like I can't wait
26:16
Speaker 5: to come back. I think this course is going to
26:17
Speaker 5: be epic. Same energy from Team Milk and yeah, I'm
26:21
Speaker 5: excited to be at the finish and true people.
26:22
Speaker 3: On I'm excited to be at the finish line too,
26:24
Speaker 3: and I'm sure everybody here that's running it also excited
26:28
Speaker 3: to be at that finish line. Advice that you wish
26:31
Speaker 3: that you had before your first marathon. We know that
26:36
Speaker 3: this marathon has a lot of first timers in the mix.
26:39
Speaker 3: I feel like we would be really missing a big
26:43
Speaker 3: opportunity if we didn't offer them that this.
26:45
Speaker 1: Is random, but remember what socks were your favorite on
26:48
Speaker 1: your long run, Like for blister prevention, sometimes you forget
26:52
Speaker 1: with all the details, you probably have a pair of
26:54
Speaker 1: socks that was like the most comfortable on your long run.
26:57
Speaker 1: Don't forget to wear those on Sunday. I feel like
26:59
Speaker 1: everyone's always, you know, busting out a new pair and
27:02
Speaker 1: then a blister is just going to ruin your day.
27:05
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And you feel like such a whimp because
27:08
Speaker 1: they're so small, but they're so painful.
27:11
Speaker 3: Small things is going to make a major difference. Reiterating here,
27:14
Speaker 3: nothing new on race day does advice you wish you
27:18
Speaker 3: had before your first marathon.
27:21
Speaker 2: Stick to your fueling strategy.
27:23
Speaker 5: Hopefully you've pressed practiced it in training, but make sure
27:26
Speaker 5: you're taking that in particularly if it's on the warmer side,
27:29
Speaker 5: you're gonna want to be hydrating. But if for some
27:33
Speaker 5: reason it's on the cooler side, I think people you know, like, oh,
27:36
Speaker 5: I don't need to hydrate.
27:37
Speaker 2: It's not that hot.
27:38
Speaker 5: It was eighty five when we sat down for that
27:40
Speaker 5: panel and now it's a Chile morning. But the fueling
27:43
Speaker 5: element is still really important, so make sure you stick
27:45
Speaker 5: to that. And Arizona state rule of thumb here, drink early,
27:49
Speaker 5: drink often, get it in early, and then you can
27:52
Speaker 5: maybe skimp after twenty two miles or so.
27:55
Speaker 2: Are you feeling nostalgic vah for us? I think I
27:58
Speaker 2: heard one chuckle at the ASU Ji.
28:01
Speaker 3: Does is like, where are the ASU students going to
28:03
Speaker 3: be on the course? And can I come hang out
28:05
Speaker 3: with you? That's exactly what you want. That's exactly what
28:08
Speaker 3: she wants. Also important when it comes to running a
28:11
Speaker 3: marathon is the night before the marathon something you do
28:16
Speaker 3: without fail before you go to bed.
28:20
Speaker 2: The night before a marathon, Mollie hit me, I.
28:24
Speaker 1: Make a list of everything I'm gonna need and what
28:26
Speaker 1: my schedule is the next morning, and it includes the breakfast,
28:29
Speaker 1: fueling if you can just I'm someone who just if
28:32
Speaker 1: you write it down, then you don't feel it's like
28:34
Speaker 1: flustered in the morning, especially with the adrenaline of race day,
28:36
Speaker 1: you kind of forget stuff. So I pack, write my
28:39
Speaker 1: schedule for the next day, and then when I wake
28:40
Speaker 1: up in the morning, I'm on autopilot until the gun
28:42
Speaker 1: goes off. So that's all that's really helped reduce my stress.
28:46
Speaker 2: Doaz, what do you do the night before?
28:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's the main thing is
28:50
Speaker 5: reduce stress as much as possible, Like have the plan
28:52
Speaker 5: for transportation, what time you're going to wake up, all
28:55
Speaker 5: of those things. A thing that I do just for
28:57
Speaker 5: the mental side of the race part is write the
29:00
Speaker 5: race plan, but also look back at your training log,
29:03
Speaker 5: like look back at that first week of running where
29:05
Speaker 5: you thought like, there's no way you did. I was
29:08
Speaker 5: with Anthony a couple of weeks ago and his I
29:10
Speaker 5: reminded him. I was like, your first run was five
29:12
Speaker 5: miles and it took like two hours. And you texted
29:14
Speaker 5: me and you're like, I walked a bunch. It was
29:16
Speaker 5: super hard, and I don't know if I can do this,
29:18
Speaker 5: Like look back at that and see where you started
29:20
Speaker 5: and see all the work you put in, how much
29:22
Speaker 5: you've improved, and just be really proud of that. It's
29:25
Speaker 5: this is the celebration for all of that work. So
29:27
Speaker 5: it's it's a really fun day and be ready to
29:30
Speaker 5: enjoy it.
29:30
Speaker 3: When we think about being proud and we think about
29:33
Speaker 3: the pig wins from your career, do you have a
29:38
Speaker 3: proudest moment?
29:39
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
29:40
Speaker 4: I mean finishing my first marathon.
29:42
Speaker 1: I was probably pretty close, because it was the one
29:45
Speaker 1: thing where like you're really afraid that like not only
29:48
Speaker 1: will you maybe not hit your goal, you might not
29:49
Speaker 1: finish the race, you might have to stop and to
29:52
Speaker 1: find like even elite runners are worried about running twenty
29:54
Speaker 1: six point two at the pace they're trying to run
29:56
Speaker 1: it like it's it's everyone is.
29:57
Speaker 4: Pretty wretch to try to heave it on. So I
30:02
Speaker 4: think when I crossed.
30:03
Speaker 1: That finish line, I was pretty proud of myself because
30:05
Speaker 1: there was some major doubt there and.
30:07
Speaker 4: It's very empowering when you can pull it off.
30:09
Speaker 2: So I hope you all feel that.
30:11
Speaker 3: And is the madra the thing that you lean into
30:13
Speaker 3: when that doubt really creeps in?
30:14
Speaker 4: It is?
30:15
Speaker 2: It is?
30:15
Speaker 1: Especially because like I was alone for a lot of
30:17
Speaker 1: the race and I just needed something to engage in.
30:19
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was.
30:20
Speaker 3: Really helpful, so helpful again, going back to that mantra
30:23
Speaker 3: can really be the thing that helps you get through
30:25
Speaker 3: the difficult moments. And of course also knowing your why,
30:28
Speaker 3: why it is that you showed up in the first place,
30:30
Speaker 3: reflecting on all of that opportunity cost and like Dez said,
30:34
Speaker 3: looking back at all of the training that you've done,
30:37
Speaker 3: and feeling confident that you put in the work to
30:39
Speaker 3: show up there and do exactly what you're setting out
30:42
Speaker 3: to do. Come this weekend or maybe if you're listening
30:44
Speaker 3: at home, whenever you tell that line for twenty six
30:46
Speaker 3: point two proudest moment for you, Dez, Do you have one.
30:50
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's anytime that I was counted out,
30:53
Speaker 5: or you know, you thought you accomplished something you thought
30:56
Speaker 5: you couldn't. So there's a few different things, but I'll
30:58
Speaker 5: go with the finishing at the two and sixteen Olympic
31:02
Speaker 5: Marathon and I had to drop. I've run like thirty marathons,
31:06
Speaker 5: thirty one now in my career, and I've only DNFD once,
31:09
Speaker 5: but it was the twenty twelve games and it was heartbreaking,
31:12
Speaker 5: and you go like, I don't know if I'll ever
31:14
Speaker 5: get to cross an Olympic marathon finish line. So four
31:17
Speaker 5: years later, make the team again, the whole thing, and
31:20
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't finish exactly where I wanted or
31:23
Speaker 5: run the time exactly that I wanted, but I got
31:25
Speaker 5: across the finish line and that was that was really special.
31:28
Speaker 5: It was probably you know, you just don't know if
31:30
Speaker 5: you're going to have that opportunity, and so that.
31:32
Speaker 3: Was I was really proud of that, so so special.
31:52
Speaker 3: Something to definitely be proud of. Twenty sixty Olympics. I
31:56
Speaker 3: have a fun fact for all of you. These two
31:59
Speaker 3: women on this age. Were roommates, Yeah, at the twenty
32:03
Speaker 3: sixteen Olympics. Reflecting on that experience, is there anything that
32:08
Speaker 3: we should know about what it's like to room with
32:12
Speaker 3: Mollie's Is there anything we you know about?
32:13
Speaker 2: Rooming with death is so messy? Now?
32:16
Speaker 4: We actually, because of our events, we didn't. It was
32:18
Speaker 4: kind of like I was exiting as you were entering
32:20
Speaker 4: type of thing.
32:20
Speaker 2: Like we didn't overlap a ton, so it was great.
32:23
Speaker 2: We didn't bother each other.
32:24
Speaker 3: Is there anything that you would keep in the room
32:28
Speaker 3: that was a must?
32:30
Speaker 1: I mean the rooms were just like all our kids. Yeah,
32:33
Speaker 1: just like all our free stuff. They give you a
32:34
Speaker 1: lot of stuff.
32:35
Speaker 5: I think that you probably already had them done. But
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Speaker 5: Mollie's nails are a big things.
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Speaker 2: Molly is known for her nails.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the fumes hit you.
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Speaker 6: It was fun, but it's like she had them done.
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Speaker 6: They were ready.
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Speaker 2: There are fierce.
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Speaker 5: And then I got to watch her race and just
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Speaker 5: really set the tone American record in the ten k
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Speaker 5: and set the tone for the games.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were early and you guys were later.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.
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Speaker 2: The first day, right, yep. Wow.
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Speaker 3: I asked this thing about the roommates in the situation,
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Speaker 3: because like when I think to like the roommates that
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Speaker 3: I had, like in college, it was just a very
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Speaker 3: different scenario than I would imagine being roommates at the
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Speaker 3: Olympic Games would look like, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Very very small rooms.
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Speaker 5: I think it's like, yeah, your stuff is in the bag,
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Speaker 5: and then you're just like your stuff.
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Speaker 4: Basically, it's not luxurious at the Olympic village at all.
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Speaker 2: Not luxurious at all.
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Speaker 3: Well, again, so excited to be here with all of
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Speaker 3: you this weekend and every Woman's marathon. So excited to
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Speaker 3: be out there cheering on not only this woman to
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Speaker 3: my left here first marathon six months postpartum.
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Speaker 2: Uh, but then also all of you.
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Speaker 3: You have an opportunity to offer this group of humans
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Speaker 3: one piece of advice before we let you go today.
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Speaker 2: Where are you gonna go with it?
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Speaker 1: Mollyh Yeah, you've worked hard to get here. Don't just
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Speaker 1: credit that that's done amazing things for you and I'm Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Just let it all pour out, enjoy the energy, and
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Speaker 1: when you cross the finish line, you're gonna just have
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Speaker 1: that tool in your pocket of like, look what I did,
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Speaker 1: like what I can do.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna make you feel.
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Speaker 4: Great about so many other things that maybe you have
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Speaker 4: doubts about.
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Speaker 2: Even though it's just running. Sometimes it's more than just running.
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Speaker 2: So good luck. I would say, you're stronger than you think.
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Speaker 5: I think you'll have a moment where it's hard and
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Speaker 5: you'll want to quit, and you'll want to give up,
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Speaker 5: and just remember you're stronger than you think. Dig a
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Speaker 5: little deeper, try again, never give up. Out there, there's
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Speaker 5: always just a little bit more than you thought.
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Speaker 6: So go out, test yourself, have fun.
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Speaker 2: This is the reward for the hard work.
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Speaker 5: And when you cross the finish line, if you haven't
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Speaker 5: done this before, you go from being a runner to
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Speaker 5: a marathonor and that's really special.
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Speaker 2: So enjoy the.
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Speaker 3: Day going from a runner to a marathonor so special.
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Speaker 3: I remember I ran Chicago recently and I was having
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Speaker 3: a hard day, and I kept saying to myself, if
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Speaker 3: it was easy, everyone would do it. That's what I
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Speaker 3: kept repeating. And so remember, as Does said earlier, you
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Speaker 3: signed up to do a hard thing.
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Speaker 2: Now you get to do the hard thing.
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Speaker 3: So happy that we were able to have this conversation
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Speaker 3: here For those that aren't I mean, obviously we're all
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Speaker 3: following along with you, but in case there are people
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Speaker 3: listening to this on the show that don't keep up
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Speaker 3: with you just yet.
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Speaker 2: Where do we find you? On social Molly, I'm.
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Speaker 1: For Instagram at Molly Huddle. My podcast is keeping track.
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Speaker 1: We don't have a very regular schedule, but it's there.
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Speaker 1: And my book currently out is How She Did It.
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Speaker 1: And then there's one.
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Speaker 4: Coming out probably next year or a little later, so
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Speaker 4: up in the.
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Speaker 2: Air that progress does.
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Speaker 5: Where do we find You does underscore Linden on Instagram
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Speaker 5: nobody asked us what does and carry a podcast and
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Speaker 5: choosing to run is my book that is out in
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Speaker 5: the world.
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Speaker 3: Out in the world. I'm over at Emily a Body
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Speaker 3: and at Hurdle Podcast. As we say on the show,
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Speaker 3: another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.