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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Week and review podcasts presented
- 0:09Speaker 1: by t I A. A Bank JP shatterck with you.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Today is Friday, June nineteen. Let's get right into the
- 0:15Speaker 1: best of the broadcast week. We start this week with
- 0:19Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. From Monday, John Hosier visited with Director
- 0:23Speaker 1: of player Development Marcus Pollard and running backs coach Terry Robiski,
- 0:27Speaker 1: two men who have been important pieces of the Jaguars
- 0:30Speaker 1: social justice and racial equality initiatives. Both spoke during the
- 0:34Speaker 1: Jaguars march to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps, and Robiski
- 0:39Speaker 1: was nearly moved to tears that day talking about the
- 0:41Speaker 1: organization's involvement. Robinski has been involved in the NFL since
- 0:45Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven as a player and then from the
- 0:48Speaker 1: early eighties as an assistant coach. He explained to Osha
- 0:52Speaker 1: a little bit of his background and why this movement
- 0:54Speaker 1: feels different. I grew up in an environment where I
- 0:59Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't really there wasn't white people in my environment.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And again maybe marcus A situation was different. I don't
- 1:06Speaker 1: know Marcus is high school, his elementary school. I don't know.
- 1:12Speaker 1: You know who was his classmates. I don't know who
- 1:14Speaker 1: markets met the class with, you know what I mean.
- 1:17Speaker 1: But I tell people I grew up in a hometown
- 1:19Speaker 1: of people. Maybe maybe I'm I'm hard pressed to believe
- 1:25Speaker 1: it was two hundred white people in my hometown. I
- 1:29Speaker 1: went to high school. My high high school were very small,
- 1:32Speaker 1: about four hundred, four hundred students, and I never saw
- 1:36Speaker 1: I never saw white kids in high school until we
- 1:39Speaker 1: played them in sports. We we we didn't do that.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Even when America said, uh, we're gonna integrate. We had
- 1:46Speaker 1: a lot of our especially our good athletes. A lot
- 1:50Speaker 1: of all good players left from us and went to
- 1:52Speaker 1: the white school because they thought they had given a
- 1:54Speaker 1: better opportunity to go progress and and and and become
- 1:59Speaker 1: better players and scholarships. But nobody left that white school
- 2:03Speaker 1: and came to our school. I mean, not even not
- 2:05Speaker 1: even a cheerleader, you know what I mean. But then I,
- 2:08Speaker 1: on the other side of that, leave from there, and
- 2:12Speaker 1: I signed a scholarship with one of the largest white
- 2:16Speaker 1: universities in the world in l u I understand. So
- 2:21Speaker 1: I go from a hometown of people to three hundred
- 2:26Speaker 1: white people. The twenty five thousand white students on the campus,
- 2:30Speaker 1: you know, and it was only seven of us when
- 2:31Speaker 1: I got there. But from there I left and went
- 2:34Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders, and some of my best friends
- 2:37Speaker 1: became uh became white guys, I mean. And again you know,
- 2:43Speaker 1: when I got there, they had just won the Super Bowl,
- 2:45Speaker 1: so we all loved everybody, you know. So, like you said,
- 2:48Speaker 1: Marcus talked to Peyton on one side and then talked
- 2:51Speaker 1: the wing on the other side. You know, I understand that,
- 2:53Speaker 1: I understand all of it. But the thing I'll say
- 2:56Speaker 1: is the things I have seen in recent days. When
- 3:01Speaker 1: market said a minute ago, we were at the market yesterday,
- 3:04Speaker 1: when the mayor says that statue is coming down, Marcuts,
- 3:09Speaker 1: you gotta know it's it's changing. You better believe you
- 3:12Speaker 1: better believe it's changing, you know. And that's why when
- 3:15Speaker 1: I was on the step and I stood up and
- 3:17Speaker 1: spoke and said what I said on Friday again in
- 3:21Speaker 1: my little bit of community back home, I think nineteen
- 3:24Speaker 1: six and seven or sixty eight, one of them two
- 3:26Speaker 1: years that we marched. We marched against an all white
- 3:29Speaker 1: school board because they had fired a black coach that
- 3:32Speaker 1: we had, and we decided we was gonna march it
- 3:34Speaker 1: we was gonna pick it it. And what I'm saying
- 3:37Speaker 1: is all my life at that little bitty school down
- 3:40Speaker 1: in Louisiana. We were always the second class group. We
- 3:45Speaker 1: were always the blacks that didn't matter. You understand. Um,
- 3:50Speaker 1: Nothing we did to nobody mattered, but it mattered to us,
- 3:55Speaker 1: you understand. And what I'm saying is for me is
- 3:57Speaker 1: from my very first march again in the eighteen sixty
- 4:01Speaker 1: seven when I was thirteen years old. Shod Con and
- 4:05Speaker 1: Doug Marone and Dave Carlwell was on the other side
- 4:09Speaker 1: of that march. For me, those were the guys we
- 4:11Speaker 1: were looking at and yelling at and cussing that and
- 4:15Speaker 1: fussing that and going at You understand. The thing that
- 4:19Speaker 1: I have seen that's different is when you said a
- 4:22Speaker 1: minute ago, you and Marcus have had a lot of
- 4:24Speaker 1: conversation over the years, but y'all have never been able
- 4:27Speaker 1: to talk about racial issues. Y'all never. The thing that's
- 4:31Speaker 1: been phenomenally beautiful for me is in Jacksonville as a Jaguar,
- 4:38Speaker 1: I've set with a head coach who's comfortable in that environment.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Doug Marone is comfortable to sit down and talk about
- 4:47Speaker 1: racism in America, not just racism in the NFL. Before,
- 4:54Speaker 1: never in my whole entire life had I ever seen that.
- 4:57Speaker 1: You understand? And again, you know I and tell you
- 5:00Speaker 1: some of the head coaches I played for and the
- 5:01Speaker 1: hate coaches I worked for, some of the greatest ever
- 5:04Speaker 1: coached the game. But to be able to sit down
- 5:07Speaker 1: and have a conversation about the treatment of black people
- 5:11Speaker 1: in America, I've only had one that's ever did that.
- 5:15Speaker 1: And then the kick about that is to have a
- 5:17Speaker 1: Doug Marone who can have that discussion and be open
- 5:22Speaker 1: about it. Now we're not sitting there using the inn work,
- 5:26Speaker 1: but we're sitting there having a conversation, and this guy
- 5:29Speaker 1: can talk about his feelings, his family, death, thought process
- 5:35Speaker 1: about blacks and how blacks are being treated. And then
- 5:39Speaker 1: after I get up from the desk of talking with
- 5:41Speaker 1: Doug Moron, I hear as an owner of the same
- 5:45Speaker 1: organization that stood up and talk about the racism he
- 5:51Speaker 1: has seen. Mhm to him, you understand what I'm saying.
- 5:55Speaker 1: So that is movement in itself that's unbelievable to believe
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- 6:47Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review podcast presented
- 6:50Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank. Let's go back to
- 6:53Speaker 1: Jack's drive time Tuesday morning. I filled in for Ashland
- 6:56Speaker 1: Sullivan this week and John Osan, Brian Sexton and I
- 7:00Speaker 1: again into the ozone mail bag. Let's get right into it.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Nathan from St. Augustine as the first question, assuming they
- 7:07Speaker 1: hold training camps. How do you think of training camp
- 7:09Speaker 1: like different this year from past years, considering there has
- 7:12Speaker 1: been no on field work since last season. Well, and
- 7:15Speaker 1: this is a different question than what we just feel that.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think he's asking more about what it's going to
- 7:20Speaker 1: look like on the field. My impression, my impression from
- 7:23Speaker 1: listening to Doug Moron last week that their concerned, and
- 7:27Speaker 1: this is from talking a couple of assistants as well,
- 7:30Speaker 1: is just making sure the rookies understand what's expected on
- 7:34Speaker 1: the field. And that can be just to hey, we
- 7:37Speaker 1: run a drill like this. You may have run a
- 7:40Speaker 1: drill like this in college. This is what we need
- 7:43Speaker 1: you to do in this case. This is what we
- 7:45Speaker 1: expect from this drill. Even this bag drill they might
- 7:48Speaker 1: run differently this, uh, you know, period four tight end drill.
- 7:53Speaker 1: They definitely So I think there'll be a little bit
- 7:56Speaker 1: of that making sure they know what to do. At
- 7:59Speaker 1: that point, I don't know how much you can differ
- 8:01Speaker 1: beyond that because there's a limited amount of time. There's
- 8:05Speaker 1: still a limited amount of time. You can't make him
- 8:08Speaker 1: work over time, you can't schedule extra practices, extra hours,
- 8:12Speaker 1: so at some point there has to be an element
- 8:14Speaker 1: of you know what we taught to you, guys this
- 8:16Speaker 1: play on June tenth. When we are virtual, we need
- 8:21Speaker 1: you to go run it. They'll go slower. Todd wash
- 8:24Speaker 1: It talked about trying to go slower, but I think
- 8:26Speaker 1: there's a limit to how slow you can go. A
- 8:29Speaker 1: week or two into this, they need to be up
- 8:30Speaker 1: to speak. John, just a thought here. I talked to
- 8:33Speaker 1: a retired coach who told me that he'd been thinking
- 8:36Speaker 1: about ways to tweak training camp to get more out
- 8:39Speaker 1: of it. He said, if it were him, he would
- 8:41Speaker 1: probably put some tents out on the practice field and
- 8:45Speaker 1: do meetings on the practice field. So, in other words,
- 8:48Speaker 1: sit and watch some tape and then go out and
- 8:50Speaker 1: have a walk through. Not not back and forth to
- 8:53Speaker 1: the locker room to the restroom, out to the field,
- 8:56Speaker 1: back in, but to maximize time, be able to do
- 8:59Speaker 1: some film stud and then go right out on there.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Not full hardcore practice time, but walk through. Okay, guys,
- 9:05Speaker 1: let's go back in the tent now, and let's go
- 9:07Speaker 1: through these four or five things. Maximize the time that
- 9:10Speaker 1: you're given by the collective bargaining agreement and be able
- 9:13Speaker 1: to get on and off the field with the element
- 9:16Speaker 1: of video. Let's stay in the ancient city Garyan St. Augustine.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Do you think the season will start as scheduled? Yeah,
- 9:26Speaker 1: I do, because there's incredible financial incentive to do so. Everybody,
- 9:32Speaker 1: meaning you know, the Nations sports fans absolutely wanted. They
- 9:38Speaker 1: have been in high gear to make this thing start.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Uh So I do think it will start. I as
- 9:45Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, I don't know what contingencies and
- 9:50Speaker 1: what obstacles they're gonna have to face, because I don't
- 9:53Speaker 1: think anybody particularly knows those are gonna come up as
- 9:56Speaker 1: they go. But I think the incentive and the want
- 9:59Speaker 1: to this is the biggest sports industry in our our world,
- 10:04Speaker 1: meaning you know, soccer is bigger overseas. But yes, I
- 10:08Speaker 1: think this machine will get this thing started. Whether it
- 10:12Speaker 1: can maintain it all the way through, I think, Brian,
- 10:14Speaker 1: is the question. Well, I'll take the flip side of
- 10:16Speaker 1: this with the nond Roger Goodell, who has proven with
- 10:19Speaker 1: the league office that they generally get done what they
- 10:21Speaker 1: want to get done, and this last Springs draft is
- 10:25Speaker 1: certainly proof of that. So they've got that evidence in
- 10:28Speaker 1: their corner um. But you know, Major League Baseball hasn't
- 10:31Speaker 1: restarted yet, the NBA hasn't restarted yet, neither has hockey,
- 10:35Speaker 1: and all of those are going to be raging in
- 10:38Speaker 1: late August early September. I think if we start to
- 10:42Speaker 1: see the uptick like we have in Texas and in Arizona,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and it continues through some of this, I would think
- 10:50Speaker 1: the league might want to push back a little bit.
- 10:51Speaker 1: I hear there are teams that want to push it
- 10:53Speaker 1: back a little bit and the league office is pushing
- 10:55Speaker 1: against that. Um So I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say,
- 10:58Speaker 1: maybe it's only two weeks, or maybe gets the start
- 11:00Speaker 1: of October. But it just seems to me right now
- 11:03Speaker 1: there are so many unknown variables to this that I
- 11:08Speaker 1: have a hard time believing they can can get their
- 11:10Speaker 1: arms around it and get it ready for the first
- 11:12Speaker 1: of September, and they might have the incentive to have
- 11:15Speaker 1: the stage to themselves in October. The full archive available
- 11:19Speaker 1: on the team website Jaguars dot Com. Now that Jaguars
- 11:23Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by Tito's Handmade Vodka. Thursday afternoon, I
- 11:28Speaker 1: sat down virtually with NFL Network reporters Steve Whitch, a
- 11:31Speaker 1: long time NFL beat writer, before turning to NFL media
- 11:35Speaker 1: in two thousand eight, he's been active during the recent
- 11:38Speaker 1: conversations on NFL Network about racial relations and how the
- 11:42Speaker 1: league has responded. The Jaguars. Of course, we're at the
- 11:45Speaker 1: forefront of the league's response with shot Khan's op ed
- 11:48Speaker 1: piece followed by the Jaguars becoming the first NFL team
- 11:52Speaker 1: to march. I asked White his reaction to Mr Khan's
- 11:55Speaker 1: written piece and much more. Yeah, Look, I think it
- 11:57Speaker 1: was important because as we know, Shat Khan is only minority,
- 12:02Speaker 1: uh principle owner in the NFL, and so for him
- 12:05Speaker 1: to come on and write and op ed talking about
- 12:07Speaker 1: some of the racism that he's faced, and of course
- 12:10Speaker 1: he's he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise,
- 12:13Speaker 1: but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know,
- 12:16Speaker 1: And I really thought it was very important for him
- 12:19Speaker 1: to say he was going to listen to his players,
- 12:21Speaker 1: because that's something that owners have not necessarily done. Some have,
- 12:26Speaker 1: but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna
- 12:30Speaker 1: do it this way or it's the highway. So the
- 12:33Speaker 1: fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good,
- 12:41Speaker 1: I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms,
- 12:44Speaker 1: and let's players know that they can seize control of
- 12:48Speaker 1: the narrative or what is going to happen with the
- 12:51Speaker 1: players without any type of obstruction. Steve, do you think
- 12:55Speaker 1: that will be something that Mr Cohn starts that other
- 12:59Speaker 1: owners may be taken and use on their own as well?
- 13:02Speaker 1: Is that something like you said in the past, some
- 13:05Speaker 1: are dictatorial? It doesn't really work like that a lot
- 13:07Speaker 1: of places. Can this be a leaguewide phenomenon, We'll see. Um.
- 13:13Speaker 1: You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've
- 13:14Speaker 1: made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions
- 13:16Speaker 1: behind their words? And some owners have been very active.
- 13:19Speaker 1: David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers severed ties with their
- 13:22Speaker 1: big security agency because they're their CEO or their head
- 13:26Speaker 1: was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about
- 13:29Speaker 1: what people are protesting against. So you know that this
- 13:33Speaker 1: is a wit and see. But I do think Shaan
- 13:35Speaker 1: Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown
- 13:38Speaker 1: significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but
- 13:41Speaker 1: I think absolutely to his players. And people in the
- 13:45Speaker 1: community who can see that the influence the Jaguars could
- 13:48Speaker 1: have and kind of being a guiding hand and measures
- 13:52Speaker 1: to be taken to kind of make some some repairs
- 13:54Speaker 1: to what's going on right now. Certainly in a town
- 13:57Speaker 1: like this that the Jaguars are the big fish, you
- 13:59Speaker 1: and Jack's and Bille. So whatever happens from this organization
- 14:03Speaker 1: makes a big impact in the community. We've seen that
- 14:05Speaker 1: already with the players marches through downtown, including the mayor
- 14:09Speaker 1: and the sheriff. You don't get a lot of work
- 14:12Speaker 1: both ways in a lot of places, but Jacksonville is
- 14:15Speaker 1: a place where that has happened so far it has,
- 14:17Speaker 1: you know, and what's interesting is, you know some of
- 14:20Speaker 1: these things have been player legs all Leonard for net
- 14:22Speaker 1: and some people you know, take take that the hold
- 14:25Speaker 1: of that, and some of them organizationally led. But I mean,
- 14:28Speaker 1: think back when you were a little kid. I mean,
- 14:30Speaker 1: even if you've got a chance to meet the NFL
- 14:32Speaker 1: player or even see one you know on the sideline
- 14:35Speaker 1: close or in person and and autograph signing whatever, even
- 14:39Speaker 1: if you know that person said you like, hey, you
- 14:40Speaker 1: can be a star. You're gonna think, man, He told me,
- 14:44Speaker 1: I can be a star. And so players understand the
- 14:47Speaker 1: influence of the voice of the pro athlete or the
- 14:50Speaker 1: or the head coach. And that's something you know, You're
- 14:54Speaker 1: seeing more and more players recognized during this situation, this movement,
- 15:00Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that we're in right now,
- 15:02Speaker 1: I think they're understanding that, Yeah, we may not be
- 15:05Speaker 1: able to change the minds of some people who are older,
- 15:08Speaker 1: who are ingrained, we can teach these young people or
- 15:11Speaker 1: show these young people away that we can be better
- 15:14Speaker 1: and more tolerant and more accepting. And that's what I
- 15:18Speaker 1: think so many people are forgetting about because maybe the
- 15:20Speaker 1: people who aren't buying the tickets but would be the
- 15:22Speaker 1: next generation to buy the tickets, those can be the
- 15:24Speaker 1: significant influencers. Are those to be influenced in this moment.
- 15:29Speaker 1: The archive of Jaguars Happy Hour available on Jaguars dot
- 15:32Speaker 1: Com or the official Jaguars podcast channels, and a video
- 15:35Speaker 1: version of that interview with Steve Witch. The full interview
- 15:38Speaker 1: is scheduled to come out early next week. On the
- 15:40Speaker 1: team side, we're in the dead period of the off season,
- 15:44Speaker 1: so the next few weeks Jaguars radio and digital shows
- 15:48Speaker 1: will be on hiatus. We'll keep you posted on any
- 15:51Speaker 1: breaking news or social justice matters from the Jaguars on
- 15:55Speaker 1: jaguars dot com and the Jags social channels. Catch all
- 15:58Speaker 1: the Jaguars news, video and adio on the official team
- 16:01Speaker 1: website jaguars dot com. Thanks for listening. I'm J. P. Shatter.
- 16:05Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend
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