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Best Of The Bus: Josh Dobbs Breaks Down What Happened In The 2023 Titans Vs Jaguars Game · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Busting with
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  Speaker 1: the Boys.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs and winning the national.
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  Speaker 1: Let's pray to God that heyday correctly the national championship
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  Speaker 1: will we played in a couple hours, but we're ride
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  Speaker 1: with the horn Frogs today. They took down my boys
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  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: Do they earn the win?
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  Speaker 1: That's not for us to say. We haven't said that,
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  Speaker 1: but people are saying that maybe they didn't. Maybe Michigan
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  Speaker 1: lost it more than they want it.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard.
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  Speaker 2: this year. A lot of the Barstool football brands, yep,
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  Speaker 1: don't you throw the boys a couple of free Chevyes
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  Speaker 1: because that'd be nice.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Hey, I don't know how we're selling this, but
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  Speaker 2: we should easily have a couple of Chevyes in the
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  Speaker 2: equation just waiting for the boys, right Like, I already
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  Speaker 4: Market.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the market for a vehicle right now. I
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  Speaker 1: need one. I'm like cold Stone Creamery. I gotta have it.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very long podcast for you guys today
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  Speaker 1: and honestly, we want to stop it three or four times,
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  Speaker 1: but truly it was an incredible pot product podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: had Josh Dobbs on. We spoke about football, We spoke
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  Speaker 1: about football, We spoke about football, We spoke about the Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville game that just happened, some decisions that
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  Speaker 1: he should or should not have made. Did he know
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  Speaker 1: his third down? Did you think did he know was
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  Speaker 1: fourth down? Did you think it was third down? The lockdown?
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  Speaker 1: Why the checkdown? Was that a forward pass? We talked
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  Speaker 1: about his past at Tennessee. Jack McPherson had an incredible
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  Speaker 1: question for him late in the podcast, real real late,
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  Speaker 1: but he came in with a haymaker of a question.
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  Speaker 1: It was incredible. Man's an astrophysicist, is he true?
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  Speaker 2: He's a rocket science He's a rocket science certified rocket
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  Speaker 2: he works with NASA.
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  Speaker 1: He started talking like literally, we like, well, was like,
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  Speaker 1: what else should we talk about? Oh, rocket scientists? And
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  Speaker 1: he started laying down information using words that I have
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  Speaker 1: to go google later. I had to call Charle ask
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  Speaker 1: her about the definition of some of those words.
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  Speaker 4: His mouth wide open.
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  Speaker 1: You were consuming all of it, dude. It was It
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  Speaker 1: was truly incredible. I hope you guys enjoy it. Is
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  Speaker 1: awesome tear talk. He's a tear talk now. The tear
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  Speaker 1: talk was our favorite planets, So you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: look into that. It might sound very elementary, but I
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  Speaker 1: think hearing get a lot of good information in that. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna paint a nice little picture for you. Someone
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  Speaker 1: got a little mad during their spiel. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: say who it was. I'm not gonna point fingers, but
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  Speaker 1: some individual sitting in a chair right now probably didn't
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  Speaker 1: handle their tear talk.
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  Speaker 3: The best way they probably could have.
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  Speaker 4: They were very aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: Now on this podcast, we in real time found out
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  Speaker 1: about the firing of Todd Downing Keith Carter and I
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  Speaker 1: believe his name is Anthony Midgett. I say I believe
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  Speaker 1: because I literally have said sixteen words to Anthony midget
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  Speaker 1: since he was on the Titans.
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  Speaker 2: It is Black Monday, so there's a lot of like
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  Speaker 2: turnover happening in the league right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that is something you will see my reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react really, So that'll be
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  Speaker 1: for you guys at Dissect. Let me know what you
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  Speaker 1: guys think. With that being said, I know it's a
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  Speaker 1: short intro. Is there anything you want to put down,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about a lot of the the mental headspace
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  Speaker 2: of guys, like one of season ends where they're in
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  Speaker 2: dab's see your see we get in the house and
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  Speaker 2: field for you, Jeff Simmons coming up with this big
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  Speaker 2: contract Josh Jacobs or this fifth year option and handbags
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  Speaker 2: in the middle fingers to the league.
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  Speaker 4: We dive into that stuff. But yeah, other than that, Bro,
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  Speaker 4: you covered it. You covered it well.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy, I really appreciate it. If you're watching
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  Speaker 3: right now, I know we're on the YouTube. The YouTube
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  Speaker 2: That was a nice show outing last week for the
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  Speaker 2: YouTube channel just the two boys too, right. There were
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  Speaker 2: over a thousand people watching at one point time. I
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  Speaker 2: remember seeing that thinking like, oh shit, that's awesome. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Hack the algorithm for the boys a little bit. We
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  Speaker 3: Making, big years in the making, and you guys started
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  Speaker 3: off real fucking hot, yeah, real hot.
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  Speaker 1: In the first episode. I did not think the numbers
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  Speaker 1: like that were gonna happen so fast. So we do
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate you. Thiseal called millions, millions, the whole point five.
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  Speaker 3: But I did see that. I heard that.
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  Speaker 1: I was on that call with you, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: Please enjoy the fuck out of this episode. Tell you
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  Speaker 1: what you excited to be on. Yeah, I'm stoked. I'm stoked,
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  Speaker 1: and I also like everything I transpired the last three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how long it's been like twenty days,
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  Speaker 5: No way, I think the game was eighteen days.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. You got to put that cup a
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  Speaker 1: little closer to your face. When we do start, we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of rolling right now it can be staying. If
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't when you got the call. Where
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  Speaker 1: were you when you got the call from the Titans?
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  Speaker 5: So I was in the in the QB meeting after Detroit,
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  Speaker 5: so listen. So I woke up in Cleveland and so
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  Speaker 5: like Detroit to Clean is like two hours. So I
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  Speaker 5: was driving back to Cleveland on the off days just
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  Speaker 5: so I could sit from home bed, wash my underwear,
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  Speaker 5: and then go back. So we played in New York
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday, landed, I drove back to Cleveland for the night,
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  Speaker 5: shipped home all my Christmas stuff, like washed my bag,
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  Speaker 5: had like four pairs of sweatpants, and I packed for
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  Speaker 5: the week and then Christmas to go home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I drove to Detroit, had practice.
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  Speaker 5: They went through like a fool basically Wednesday, and then
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  Speaker 5: I was in the QB meeting afterwards and they're like,
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  Speaker 5: my agent called me I practiced. I called him back.
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  Speaker 5: He said he I think the Titans want to sign you.
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  Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, this could be one of
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  Speaker 5: those things where they call and like nothing happens, or
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  Speaker 5: it could happen fast, or just keep your phone on you.
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  Speaker 5: So going back to the meeting, sat there a phone
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  Speaker 5: on silent and then it starts buzzing, so it's my
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  Speaker 5: agent calling.
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  Speaker 3: Said yeah, they want to sign you.
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  Speaker 5: And then Ryan called and then I walked back in
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  Speaker 5: the room and said, yo, I got a fight to
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  Speaker 5: catch at eight fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: No way, was it a team meeting or what meeting?
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  Speaker 3: Was the quarterback meeting? QUB meeting?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterback meeting. Willie was officially on the bus for
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  Speaker 1: those of you. Yeah, we just started, I mean talking,
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  Speaker 1: and then I saw the numbers rolling, so I thought
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  Speaker 1: we might as well just get going. My man, my
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  Speaker 1: man's in Cleveland, So I'm assuming you live in Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: full time.
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  Speaker 5: That's like, that's well, I mean no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'll come like a nomad, like a one made Nashville home.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I started just talking about I just have an apartment
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  Speaker 5: up there. I just had it through the season ends
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  Speaker 5: in February, and you were driving from Cleveland to Detroit.
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  Speaker 5: Driving from Cleveland to Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: My man had a just packed for like the week
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  Speaker 1: and then Christmas and he's sitting He's sitting in meetings
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  Speaker 1: in Detroit. He during practice gets a call from his agent.
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  Speaker 1: Agent calls his agent back. He's like, Hey, the Titans
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  Speaker 1: might want to sign you, but you don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: it might be one of those things who knows what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. Right, He's sitting in a meeting, his phone
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  Speaker 1: starts going off. He picks up the phone and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they definitely want to sign you. And then he gets
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  Speaker 1: on the phone with R. C Ryan Cowden and then
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  Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. So he said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you walk, So you walk back in the meeting and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I gotta go.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, He's like, there's an eighth fifteen flight.
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  Speaker 3: Can you make it.
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  Speaker 5: It's like six o'clock, yeah, in Detroit, and they're like,
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  Speaker 5: we want you to dress on Saturday and it's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I got think the eight fifteen flight so
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  Speaker 5: I can get there at least, like get a good
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  Speaker 5: night's sleep, like get the playbook as early as possible.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I'll make it. So I went
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  Speaker 5: straight in the room and said, I know I've been
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  Speaker 5: here for two weeks, but I got a head to
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  Speaker 5: the airport. The Titans are shining me like shook Jared
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  Speaker 5: Nate Brew shook everyone saying his QB room. So it
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  Speaker 5: was up to the OC upstairs in the GM went
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  Speaker 5: straight to the airport. So I'm sewing like that same bag.
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  Speaker 5: I got like four pairs of sweatpants, two pairs of jeans,
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  Speaker 5: just dugging it, just tugging through it.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, dugging it. That's wild. What's the head coach's name
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  Speaker 3: for the lines? Dan Campbell? Dan Campbell?
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  Speaker 1: What was his You're only there for two weeks, but
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  Speaker 1: what was his vibe? Because he seems like it's awesome
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  Speaker 1: the football guy. He seems like, Yeah, people would argue,
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  Speaker 1: not us. We're not going to argue this. People are
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  Speaker 1: saying he might be cool with the Mike Vrabel from
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  Speaker 1: a from like a vibe.
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  Speaker 5: Standpoint, I A would say they're both up there because
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  Speaker 5: they played, you know what I mean, Like they get it,
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  Speaker 5: just like the ebbs and flows of a season, like
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  Speaker 5: the emotions of it as players. I came away for
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  Speaker 5: practice on a Wednesday late in the season, Like they
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  Speaker 5: just get it, Like they walk in the room, they
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  Speaker 5: get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was cool. Like the culture of there was awesome,
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  Speaker 3: which is crazy to say about the Lions. Yeah, the culture.
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  Speaker 3: I was really impressed because you know how the Lions
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  Speaker 3: were like when I got drafted in fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: They were picking at ten, and I was like, fuck, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I did not want to go to Detroit, please. I
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  Speaker 1: was legit, like, man, I do not want to go
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  Speaker 1: live back in Michigan again. I was begging not to
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  Speaker 1: get picked there. Well, so like just in my process,
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  Speaker 1: so I got released for Cleveland. Well, well we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that. But like so I was like either going
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  Speaker 1: to go back to Cleveland.
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  Speaker 5: I ended up going to Denver, working on Denver and
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  Speaker 5: then visiting Detroit and like even I was there like
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  Speaker 5: the night before the game, and it's like you could
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  Speaker 5: just feel the vibe in the building, like just like
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  Speaker 5: everyone around it. They just are just like focused on
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  Speaker 5: the right things. They have a ton of like coaches
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  Speaker 5: that are players, like on their whole staff, right, so
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  Speaker 5: they just they just get it.
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  Speaker 3: Like the vibe is really really good up there. I
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 4: Are you are you for the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: Like? Are you pumped? Got a limited Seahawks ones?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're good'll come that's all right, Ye
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  Speaker 1: when the bus come back, he'll be dialed then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll cut that off.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't take my black label, my own in black label.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's not NSF certified either. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: need that performance enhancing You need that right now. So
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  Speaker 1: you're you're in Cleveland. You were on active at Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: So I was the two all year in Cleveland. I
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  Speaker 3: want you to talk about Cleveland. Yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 3: hear about Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: Hear about Cleveland, you know what I mean, Like a
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  Speaker 1: normal guy and then your parent you're in the same
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  Speaker 1: room as a super horny guy in Cleveland. I want
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  Speaker 1: to find out, like how that dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: Works with you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I need to hear
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  Speaker 4: yeah saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like did he come off that horny or you're like, oh,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: he might not be as horny as are saying.
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  Speaker 4: Oh he got the rookies and massuse.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Christmas present, here's a massage therapist. I can't, I cannot,
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  Speaker 3: I can't. I can't speak on that. But he's a
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  Speaker 3: normal dude, I like to Sean Watson. I think at
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  Speaker 3: this point he's one of those things.
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  Speaker 4: You've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: We all got our you know what I mean, everyone
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  Speaker 1: has the horny guy ever met. There's two Mike Campanero
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  Speaker 1: and Rob Moojie. Those are the two horniest people I've
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: ever met you boys, horny boys, Like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Chase Rice would be up there. Chase Rice, he was
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  Speaker 1: like a horny boy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He performed in my golf tournament last year. Yeah, go
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  Speaker 3: back there now head.
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  Speaker 5: We took him out in Knoxville after the tourney. He
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  Speaker 5: enjoyed the streets of Knoxville. Yeah, I'm sure he enjoyed
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  Speaker 5: the streets of Knoxville. We've got ourselves a line.
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  Speaker 6: Boy.
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  Speaker 3: He had a good time.
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  Speaker 1: So you're when you're in Cleveland, you are the two
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  Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Are you the two up unto the point
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  Speaker 1: that Deshaun came back. Yeah, Okay, that's how it was working.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two until Deshaun came back. They claimed the QB.
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  Speaker 5: At the end of camp, so we had like three,
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  Speaker 5: but like four when Deshawn's coming back. So they're trying
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: to keep the room together. They're like, if we release you,
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  Speaker 5: we feel like you'll clear waivers so we can like
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  Speaker 5: keep all four guys together.
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  Speaker 4: Did you bet on practice squad and stuff? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Giving me back on practice by stuff. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: all right, like if you released me, basically my season
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  Speaker 5: there is done. Like Deshaun's coming back and stuff. Like shot,
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to go somewhere like play and like some
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  Speaker 5: other situation because like every week, like you can just
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  Speaker 5: guys know how it is, like every week you look around,
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  Speaker 5: like QB goes down, something shakes up. So it's like
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  Speaker 5: I want to put myself in a position where teams know, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I want to go somewhere and play, whether it's for
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  Speaker 5: two weeks or however it may be from the end
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  Speaker 5: of the season. So I'm that's why I ended up
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  Speaker 5: taking the visit to Denver and ended up going to Detroit.
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  Speaker 5: Really like the culture there and like I'd been like
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  Speaker 5: they tried to trade for me a couple of times
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  Speaker 5: early in my career, so I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: go there, check it out, and then should it worked
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  Speaker 5: out where I got here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you outed out of signing back on practice
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  Speaker 2: squad with the Browns because you wanted to put it
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  Speaker 2: out there like, yeah, I'm trying to go play.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be in an.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly room and look key be at the bottom exactly correct.
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  Speaker 5: Like I felt like, I mean, you're getting demoted and
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  Speaker 5: they're saying that it's not for performance, it's just for logistics,
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  Speaker 5: but it's like, all right, so I guess how it is,
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  Speaker 5: like in the league, you have to look out for
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  Speaker 5: yourself and shoot, like figure out your path and your
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  Speaker 5: career and try to set up an opportunity, make it
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  Speaker 5: up opportunity for yourself if you're not just giving an opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why I felt like, what's the best bet
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  Speaker 5: for me?
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  Speaker 1: It seems like you saying that you have to look
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: out for yourself, Like I feel like when I first
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: got in the league, and you might feel this way too,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: but when I first got in the league to now
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: that phrase looking out for yourself has become much more
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: vocalized throughout the league, Like people are starting to understand more,
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: like not only in the locker room, because you know,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, guys got to look out for themselves.
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: You got to get paid and do whatever.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Sure, but like from a public perception as well, people
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: are starting to understand that when you're in the NFL,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: like you might love being a part of the team,
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: but if there's a better opportunity elsewhere, like you can't
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: really fault the.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Guy exactly, know what I'm saying.
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like people like see that guys are
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: their own businesses right off the field and on the field,
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: and every situation shakes out differently, so you have to
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: put yourself in the right position for you to succeed.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: And she was a business, so you have to treat
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: it that way.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were in Cleveland, what's your mindset like
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: like going in there knowing that you're the backup and
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: that all the Wold Deshaun Watson thing was kind of
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: up in the air. What's your mentality like going into
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: training camp and how you're gonna say it? Because I
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: would almost think if I'm in your situation, like you
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: kind of feel, I would almost feel like, oh, I'm
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: a play center here until he gets back.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Was that kind of the mentality?
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Did you feel like you could, uh, you know, make
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: something shaking training camp to where you could potentially be
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: the guy like talk about your entire mindset while being
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: at Yeah, it was.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: I mean going into the room into the year, we
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: all knew it was gonna be interesting when you sign
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: three brand new quarterbacks that haven't been there with the
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: Sean dra Kobe myself, so only kind of all new then.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Obviously we knew how it was gonna shake. Out based
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: on like other paying guys, like hey, this is kind
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: of the pecking order. But I mean I kind of
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: just went in there with the mentality of, hey, just
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: maximize my reps in camp, even though I might not
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: get a lot, Like go out, I have a really
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: good preseason and then something shakes out in the season,
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: then go out and play well and then if it doesn't,
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: you'll at least set yourself up, whether it's to be
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: back in Cleveland or for another opportunity after. So yeah,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: I mean it was it was an interesting situation, a
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: unique situation with it just the whole.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Almost think too, like a decision wasn't yet with the
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: NFL and everything else.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking I could legit be the backup, like this
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: could think this thing could be the whole year.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't know until like three weeks into camp
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: what the NFL was going to do, so that was interesting.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: But you always obviously knew they were going to make
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: a decision, so there would be an opportunity there.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're just kind of working through it.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were when you were at Tennessee, obviously
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Tennis is a huge school and like you're a big
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: name guy like everyone knows about Josh Dobbs. You go
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to you drafted by Pittsburgh. Correct, when you're in Pittsburgh,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: what like, how was your experience there? But like, were
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: you thinking like all right, Ben's coming up, He's about
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: to be done, Like I'm next in line?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Were you was that like your mindset?
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: That was definitely that was definitely the thought because they
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: so when I got drafted there, it was Ben, Landry
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Jones and then myself and then those were the only
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: three quarterbacks. And so at the time, Ben had just
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: in the off season been going back and forth of
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: if he was going to retire or not, and so
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, like Ben, I know, he wants
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: to win another Super Bowl. So we had a really
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: good team like my rookie year, and we almost won it.
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: So it's like we went in another super Bowl and
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: then there would be an opportunity. But Ben ended up
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: playing for five more years, like once I got drafted,
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I didn't check out the way that I
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: foresaw it. But it was so cool like being being
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: like working with Ben and just interesting how he plays
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: the game because he plays it so much differently than
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: a lot of quarterbacks around the League. So just learning
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: from him, being around him, we had cool relationship now,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: so I enjoyed my time.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: There is there a.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Publicly a Ben that you feel like people get wrong
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: about with his preparation and how he plays the game.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: You just said he plays it differently.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Then yeah, you know, I think like he gets the
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: perception of like Ben's a guy that doesn't watch film
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: and stuff, but the stuff he does on game day,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: he definitely like watches film. He just doesn't do it
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: maybe like at the complex or like right in front
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: of your face, But when he goes home, he's definitely
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: studying because so much of the offense was on him
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: just to kind of freelance of the line of scrimmage,
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: like pick his plays. Like a lot of times there
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: would be no play Like Ben's calling the game on
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: the field, and you can't do that if you're not studying, preparing,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: watching some type of tape to get a feel for
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: the opponents. Those really impressive Like we would go to
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: practice and we would call like no huddle, and you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: like you get the practice script before practice has like
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: fifty plays or whatever's on the play. This is like
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: for OTAs in camp and you would get the practice script.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: There wouldn't be one play on it. The quarterbacks will
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: call it the entire practice. So you just get the line,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: you look at the situations like first and ten left hash,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: and you just call whatever play you want it because
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: that's what Ben would do in the game sometimes. And
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: so it was cool, like we're basically like a little
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: oc call on your own plays and four. So like
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: as a rookie, you're out there calling drive and four
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: verts every play just to find a completion, take a side.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: But then once you get in like year two, year three,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: you're all right, let me try to set them up,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: let me let me call this, let me try to
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: throw this guy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So you get to actually like work the game and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: work on like being a play.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Called Who are you asking questions to them to kind
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of learn about two men and everything else? If it's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like quarterback is the kind of call their script? Are
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you like really asking Ben, like, Hey, what's going on
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in your mind? Why are you calling X, Y and Z?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: I would ask him a little bit, but he kind
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: of like he doesn't really like to like talk about
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: like why he does.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: He kind of likes to just do it. And then
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: you can like ask him for little stuff, but it's.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: More playing chess at all time.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: He's just playing chess all so really he's playing multiple games.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah, like, okay, I'll.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Give you a little bit, but not too much because
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: zachtly want to play as long as.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly, so I would.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: What were you do is like you will watch him,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: like he'll call a couple of plays and then it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: the funny thing like some of the plays that he liked,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: you didn't really know if you didn't didn't like him,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: or like couldn't really execute him until you did it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: So like he would call it play and then you
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: would go in and because it looked cool and call
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: it and it wouldn't work, Like.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I ain't ever called that play again. Yeah, but no,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: it was smooth, like two minute two minutes.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: In practice, the QB will get to call it, so you're.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Kind of like dialing up.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But you guys had like basic stuff like the Titans
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to be right, where you have a number system or
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like different code names with.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: The number system and stuff that you could get through
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: at tempo, but clock stop out of bounds, especially in
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: a practice situation like come to Hoddle if you're feeling
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: it you could just call whatever you want and go
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: from there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Damn, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well you got
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: no situationally, like what the hell is going on too?
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: You're like, well, we always were practiced that you needed
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: a touchdown to win, so you could be aggressive at spots.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: But it was cool because you were put in that
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: pressure cooker situation and it was all on you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Like sometimes like cbous, they can get handcuffed with plays.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Sometimes they oh I didn't like that play. Yeah, so
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: then you go a pick or incomplete behind the chains.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: But just you picking the play, I mean you can't.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: There's no excuse.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It's on you. Yeah, you to go out there.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: He feels about that if like you are to have
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the title of OC at Pittsburgh with them, You're like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I'm really not really, I'm not just here to watch
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd almost like cause you're you ultimately want to
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: play into the strength of your players, like you have
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: somebody like Ben Roethlisberger.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: There's been doing a long time.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they've had plenty of conversations to where it's like, hey,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: do your thing out there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think it comes from like coach t
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: just giving players that freedom. I mean they know Ben.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Ben's like a point guard back there. Yeah, with the
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: way he plays, gets the ball of his hands.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Want just be disrespectful, Like in the situation of the Tights,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: A Dobbs comes in and and Rabes looks at uh
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: uh Todd and it's like, hey, don't worry about calling
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: two minute, Josh Dobbs is gonna call it. Then that's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: where I feel like you You probably feel some type
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: of way of coordinator, like fuck man, you want to yeah, yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Their arms crossed. I kind of just waiting to see
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: what happens.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Dude. Since we're talking about the Titans.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I definitely like you signed and you're starting that week,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: like talk about your mental space leading up to that week,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: because you you started twice. You started twice now like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you just literally was thrown into the fire with the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Like talk about you signing, you get here,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you realize, Okay, they might want to sign me to
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: where Oh I'm the fucking guy this week.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I better get a ship going.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: It was well on before before you into that, did
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: they say you were the guy right away?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: So they so?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Because I know, right, yeah, So the first week. Last week,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't start, but they said we want you to dress.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: So I got there Wednesday morning and the game was Saturday,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: and they're like, we're gonna dress as the two for
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: the game. So it's like, okay, I could play. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: then the next day it was Christmas. After the game,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: they said, hey, can you come back early because we
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: think we're gonna start you Thursday night against the Cowboys.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I say, yeah, for sure. I mean, here's the thing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Like outside looking at right, it's a
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: crazy situation, like, bro, you've been there like a week,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: like you gotta go start this game, like there's a
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: lot of pressure behind it all this stuff. But from
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: like inside looking out like me, it's like to start
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: an NFL football game, it's sometime we went on for
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: six years. So for you to say, like, okay, you
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: got five days to get ready for it, that's plenty
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: of time, you know what I mean, that's that's almost
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: a lot of time to get ready for it. To
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: understand they play book. I might got nothing else to do.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: I got one bag of clothes, you know, nowhere to go.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: So it's just a tremendous opportunity. Man, just to go
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: out there play ball.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I thought it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Obviously I expected to have more starts before going to
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: my six year, But to get that opportunity to go
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: out and play and play well and just embrace it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of fun with it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: On Primetime too, Cowboys Primetime.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Gets the Cowboys at home. I mean, there's there's there's nothing,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: there's nothing better than that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what you live for. You live for those opportunities,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: just to go out.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: When you're in Nashville, Tennessee, and you play at the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys on Primetime. There is no home game if
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you're in Nashville or you're in you're so.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Many Cowboys fans there. Oh dude, That's how it was.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: My rookie Yar too.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: We played that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: We were in silent the whole game. I mean at
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that point we won one game. It was like week thirteen. Smart,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like all right, we did the same thing.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: We're like, let's go side and also work because we
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: knew we're gonna play in Jacksonville is gonna be rocking anyway. Now,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: it might as well practice, especially but it'd be my
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: first time doing it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: You played well once you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Get past the first couple of plays, where were the
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: nerves Like leading up to the game, Yeah, you're excited.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You're like, You're like, you have plenty of time to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: get ridy for a game, like you're you're in the book.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: You're in the book. You're in the book. Ready, Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and then the day comes and it's a night game,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: so it's like, man, I got to chay hotels. Give
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: me that fucking hotel all day. About the mindset the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: nerves a little bit, You're like, it's fucking yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's like you you rather just wake up and play,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: you know, just get the one o'clock games so you
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: don't have to sit all day because you sit in
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: the hotel all day. You look at the game playing
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: a thousand times, and then by the end of it,
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: you're like, all right, what are they going. You're trying
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: to you're trying to play the game in your head,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: you're trying to anticipate plays, and then sure, you haven't
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: been out there since the preseason. So the first couple
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: of plays, like it was moving fast, like guys were
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: flying around them.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: It's like you saw what coverage it they were in.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: But just then going out and like actually like Okay,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I got catched the ball. I got to execute the
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: play rather than just mentally executing it. It took a
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: couple of plays just to get back in the group.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: But once the once I got back in the flow,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: it was smooth. It was just like, all right, this
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: is just football, you know, And that's like, that's like
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: the best thing. Like anytime you make the jump from
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: any level, right, first time playing in high school, you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: you're nervous about the first game college. Same thing, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: the same thing because you're nervous about the speed of
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the game. You're nervous about whatever the opposing players are.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: And then you get out there, it's just football, same
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: game I've been playing for a long time.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but it does move a lot faster. It
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: does move a lot faster.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Those five days you're like, oh, that's playing time to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: get ready mentally for a game like learning to playbook,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: how much time did you take and look at like
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the personnel because you come into your situation for you individually,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: is an amazing situation because you're like, I'm looking to start,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm looking to play Tennessee. Gave you that and you're like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: all right, that's awesome. Let's to check that out the list.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Now you look at the roster and you go, holy fuck,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was the w guy? There's no like this is a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: loose term. There's nobody on the team anymore. Well, you're
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you're playing with guys that weren't original stars week one.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: So yeah, So when I signed, I looked at the
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: roster and like the first you just scroll through the
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: roster to see who you know, Like, okay, I got
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: to know this guy. Now I looked, I got got
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: down and it's like injury reserved. Yeah, I was like
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: longer than looking at the active roster like dang, there's
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: so many guys out.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: So no, there's a lot of young players. I think
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that was like even going into a situation where they're
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: on like three or four game losing streak as yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: they're what we lost seven in a row? Seven?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the five at that point, right, Yeah, like it
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: was four because you came in and you were sitting
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: behind elite when you Yeah, but go, so like how
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: did you work through that process? You give a couple
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of receivers and be like listen, like you like a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Robert Woods is the first person that comes to mind
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: s Finnley for a while before he got hurt. He
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: had four one thousand yard seasons like if without playing quarterback. Ever,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, I need a lifeline guy around here,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: like Austin Hooper, I need Robert Woods. Like were there
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: guys you wouldn't approached. It was like, this is I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck's going on, but I need
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to know that I need someone to bail me out
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: once in a while.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I would just tell him just like stick
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: with me. Like that was the biggest thing on the song.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, stick with me. I have to scramble,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: especially like a Woody yeah who because I knew, like
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: those guys have played a ton of ball and so
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I almost like, yo, just stick with me. But the
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: creasing was so for the Thirsty Night game, we didn't
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: get any live reps in practice because it was a
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: short week.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Like walk through.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's yeah, which is fantastic late in the year,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: but if you're just coming into it, you're like, bro,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I could use the little speed some of the throws
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in the game.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: That was like the first time I'd ever thrown that
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: route to the to the receiver live. Like we through
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: trying to throw trailer and strike. It was about a
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: foot behind him, Like it was like back hip. I
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: was like, that's the first live strike route I've thrown
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: to him in my life. Yeah, we're throwing it like
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: thirty seven, you know, in the middle the third quarter
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: a huge play. So it was like little things like
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: that that you had to work through. Yeah, it was
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: a crazy process.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: What's it meant for you to get that opportunity after
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: waiting patiently for six years? It was only that You've
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: had such a lot of pivots along the way, like
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: being drafted by Pittsburgh, getting traded, being cut, being on
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: practice squad, being on ir Like you've had a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: of different situations come about. Then you go on practice
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: squad for a couple weeks with Detroit, you get a call,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I'm going to Tennessee. You're dressing that week,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and then you're starting these last two games, Like what
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: does that meant to you?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Like, with all the time that's gone by in your career.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: It was awesome in the world, you know, I wish
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: obviously the result of it of the two stars was
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: a little different, but just to be out there and
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: play It's like I tell everyone this. Everyone's asking me, like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: what is it like, because people, you know, like, oh,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: you're a back of cord and lead. That's like the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: easiest job in the world. You're just chilling, like watching
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: other people play. It's largely thought of.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I think that right now, I'm ready for you to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: change my mind. Every year, I'm like, yo, you're fucking
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: living the dream. Win a couple of games a year
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and then yeah, exactly, Middle Reliever. Yeah, that's what I
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: told him. It's like it was like in high school.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: You have like the biggest tests of your life, especially
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: like before you first start, you have the biggest EPs
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: of your life. It's basically I got to decide if
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: you get to go on and do everything you want
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: in this world or not. Right, And so you prepare
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: every single week, and you know that test is going
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: to come on Friday. So every single week Monday, you
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: can wake up, you prepare for the test Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: got the butterflies in your stomach, and you wake up
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Friday and you don't take the test, and then you
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: do it again next week, and you do it again
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: next week.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Oh damn that next week, and then for me test,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: what the is talking about it to me? Like front
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it all together. I was like, oh, ship, that does
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: be a good fucking point. And for me, I've done
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that for six years. I mean like every Friday is
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a test. I just never know when want to take it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: And so like that's the biggest sound wheremind myself is
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: like you don't know where you're gonna take the test,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: but you do yourself a disservice if you're not ready
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: to take that test. So every single week I with prepares.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I said, if I'm gonna take the test, and I
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: take the test, hit reset. Some weeks are tougher than others,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: but just keep pushing forward and shoot look up whenever,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: whenever the test is done and succeed.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: So so it is easy, No, it's not easy, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: shitty being like shitty being a backup.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And you got to do that every week and you're
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: like you're dressed and everything, like, man, I gotta be ready.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: You're so hyped up getting ready?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Can you get hyped up?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: That's what it's because listen, listening to you and that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: whole thing right there, like obviously you saw my mind
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: get blown.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I was a vocal about it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But if six years and you're studying for a test
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: every single week and then that last like eventually once
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in a while, you're like, fuck, did this test ain't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: coming this way? Like I got like if you're behind Ben, right,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: dude's been playing forever, he's like he's a statue in there,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but he gets the ball out relatively fast and he
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: could take some hits. There's got to be a level
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: of being like, all right, maybe I'm good this week.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: All this defensive line is not good. That the quarterback
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like that you do that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Second you do that, you're thrown in there.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: So like, for instance, so second everyone's backing up Ben,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: we'd be sitting there and we're playing the Ravens, like
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: late in the season. It's cold, you're staying standing in
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Baltimore in the middle of December for three hours, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I was really standing there. It's probably it's like the
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter, we're up to like five points, we're coming
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: out was like first and fifteen. I'm like, all right,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: like Ben got this, Like the game's over, Like I
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: have my beanie on. I was not chilling, like I
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: was still in the game, but it was like, but
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: you're chilling, Yeah, you're sitting there like, yeah, game's over.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: We're good. Then goes to scramble. They were like pee
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Tampa too.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Then goes to scramble and the three technique like falls
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: on him and he's just like laying on the ground,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: just out And in my head, I'm like this man
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: like just passed out on the field. So then like
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: that's when stomach drops. Sorry, get the helmet, like warm up.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: You haven't thrown since pregame warm ups. We go out
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: there is like first and fifteen second, fifteen coach he's like, throw.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: The deep over.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: They haven't covered it all day. I'm like, damn, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: thought we were just gonna hand it off. You're coming
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: out of the end zone, crowds going rout wild some
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: quick exactly. So and then that was like my that
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: was my first play in the league. So threw over
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: to Juju and then I go, okay, I can do this.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: And then Ben walks back on the field. He's fine,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: he shook it off. He just got the wind knock
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: out of him. But like all that to say was
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: I was staying on the sideline five minutes before that,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: like to your point. Just they're like like okay, like
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not playing today, like the game's over, and then
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: the second you like seek that comfort and you sit down, boom,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: you're thrown in there. So I just like examples like
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that have occurred throughout my career that I try not
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: to catch myself like in that role where it's like, oh,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: it's over, you know, just always just finding ways to
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: whether it's not a routine or whether it's just the
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: process of getting prepared, just to stay locked in, because
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: as I said, you just do yourself a discredit if
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: you're not ready for the opportunity.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Because there are definitely times where
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you think you do think that way, especially depending how
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: long the season has been too, because in the beginning
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: seas you're kind of like you never know could have
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: been some of the coaches tell you, I don't know
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: about for quarterback, but like linebacker, like oh you will
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: get you in here x y Z blah blah blah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: But there are definitely times where you can get in
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: some lulls of thinking about it. But he's right, like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the minute it does happen, that anxiety prepared, you're because
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that that week where I had got cutting and brought
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: back on practice squad and we were playing the Ravens.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: For whatever reason, I was a little bit nervous because
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I man, what team is this?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: The Titans?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: This was the Titans, This is a twenty eighteen, this
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: is the second sin with the Titans. Yeah, And I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: was like, man, you know, I hope I don't have
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to go in there like I'm you know, really that's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a tough mindset too, right right, I hope I don't
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: have to go in there. Like I've been on practice
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: squad this entire week. They're just now telling me that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I could play. Oh, I'm going to back up in
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the game. So Friday or Saturday or whenever they're doing
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: all the walk through stuff. I'm just behind uh Rareshawan
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and Jayon just kind of shadowing them because you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: it's Lamar Jackson. There's some wrinkles in their run game
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and pass game that it's like you can't just go
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: in there with a dropback quarterback. You feel a lot
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: more comfortable coming off like a practice squad situation. You're like, Okay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff is real general concepts that
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: everybody kind of has.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yea, yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: But the Ravens, for whatever reason, they got they got it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It's like a different game plan that week. So since
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I've been on practe squad that whole week and then
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: they tell me like, hey you could, You're we're gonna
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: activate you a practice squad after just getting cut. You're
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, well let me stand because I was
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit nervous and that was the game.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Jahn fucking fucked up his elbow.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: It was terrible to then God he was wearing long sleeves.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally I was in there. I was like,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: thank god, I was going through just the walks or
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: something like that. Through the process. It always comes when
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you're just not You're like the most unprepared and you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: have like a type of anxiety of like man By
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: going in and looks stupid like it's over.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Lamar does make people look stupid. Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I think of Lamar when he sees jam go down,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: who's a very athletic linebacker, and then you walk out white.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: He always sees the white guy. He's like, oh, he
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't work out for him.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But a white linebacker, a black linebacker goes out and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: then a white leg of recom He goes, oh, man,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I'm running off that guy.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is try being a white man chasing
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the tackle Lamar Jackson in this league can happen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Your only hope is making go east and west. I'd
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: be like, please, dog Cavalry get here exactly. Wait you
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: find some time? Yeah, like all right, don't don't die
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: out the diving board.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: They'll sit under myself, all everything, everything, ninety miles round.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I know, dude, Lamar is impressed. I hope he gets paid.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I hope he.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I think he will for the Ravens. You think he's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere else, I don't know. I know he's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: gonna get paid. I don't know who knows if it's
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: going to be the number that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the number he's wanting. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's like an irrational person or not.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But I've never met him, but I think I think
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he'll get paid. I think I think with the OC's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: up for a job somewhere, so that might that might
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: shake shake some things up.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: But I think it'll be interesting is how all the
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: gms and owners will look at the contract situation. Because
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I know he can he can throw the ball around
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: but the running game is a big part of his
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: game and the life, the lifespan of like a running back.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: In the league.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And you can look back at Vic and all these guys,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: it's just wherever they see him, like how long do
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: we exactly?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: How long can he play at that level type of
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: game that he plays.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: As another element, that element shows that like they only
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: have so much tread on the tire because you can't
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: have like the way Lamar plays, he loses a step.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: It definitely equalizes the game a little bit more.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely equalizes the game. I wonder, yeah, I wonder if
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: he is going to the bus. Love that Lamar's he
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: follows you, right, Yeah, he's one of the boys. He's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: one of the boys.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah I was.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I actually made that joke that try being a Whyke
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: on the field chasing Lamar Jackson. And it was one
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of those ones where it was going out there to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: different audiences and then people started to call me like
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: racist and ship like that, and then Lamar comes in
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and laughs at and everything else. So I'm good, what
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: if I yeah, you get one of the bros on there?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Like it's that's like the almost the equivalent of being like, oh,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not racist. My best friend's black. Like you got
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: that card right there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: He comes in and says something, it's like the guy
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like this. I'm good. You saw
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: him good. People like that. People are like that all
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the time. You can invite to the cookout. You're like, yo,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm good.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell all my white boys, Like, guys,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I got plans on Saturday.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you just want to hang out? I can't, Like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: we didn't ask you, but I'm doing. Yeah.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I hope he needs to kind of be like our
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: boy Kirk Cousins and kind of do like the short
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: three year guaranteed contracts gets that gets the money bags.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Money hipping them things up. Huh do you think he
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: deserves it? Yeah, for sure. I mean I was just
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: trying to see if my boy's gonna slip get some
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: headlines out here. We got the same agent, so Mike, yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: might be grinding.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurt, like we were actually talking about it this morning.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Like Kurt played the situation perfectly. You have to take
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a little risk to get to the market, for sure,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: see what your market value is, and then that's where
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: if you're healthy and coming out coming out looking good
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: on scathes and free agency, you're able to leverage all
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of your stuff to get it might be a lower ceiling,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: but you'll get that fully guaranteed contract ever.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Since, ever since, every contract.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, what we were in that conversation because
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: of Jeffery Simmons. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about his
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: fifth year ouption coming up and if he's gonna I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: don't know, Like, you know how the things, the things
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: get crazy when your contract is up and you've played well.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Like I jokingly told Jeff, Hey, I know we're not
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the best friends. We got a fight in camp and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: for some reason he's never let it go since then,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: so like we're definitely a rocky. He holds a grudge
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of big time. I was like, hey, I want you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to know, like our career is based on where you're
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: at right now. Are identical the exact same as far
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as accolates go. I was like, I hope to god
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: yours end's better than mine does. But and then we
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: had a whole conversation you're that's right, you're ten loading Broton.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: But we had a whole conversation of like fifth year
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: option and how that's gonna play out. He was like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: asking about my stuff, and it's crazy the stuff that
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: he's got to go through now going into this fifth year,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: because not only is the fifth year, he's looking at
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: two possible franchise tags as well, right, and he's gonna
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: get money, But it's not like that money. It's like, oh,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm set in long term, like yeah, you want that,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you want that contract? That says because if he gets hurt, boom,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: he just lost a whole bunch of money that way. Yeah,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm axed to see how that plays out with the Titans.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: As we're just in general, we were talking about the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: different like mindset you can be in as a player,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: like once your season abruptly ends, like for Jeff, he's like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you saw the.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Post game video of him like crying the locker at
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the locker, like talking about what it means.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So you can just tell, you can tell how much
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the game means to him with it all right, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: for somebody to shoot up his ankle the entire back
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: half of the season to play and try to get
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the boys into the playoffs.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: You know, as a player, you think in your mind.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And the logo, the team, everybody, everybody's gonna be on
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the same page. But the minute the season is over,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you go from this pack mentality to now this individual
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: mentality because now it is all suddenly business, and that
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: shooting up and that playing hurt, and that the product
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: you end up putting on film most of the time
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: gets used against you and negotiations, right, just because it's
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: strictly business. I would assume the tiers are gonna do
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: whatever possible to retain somebody like Jeff, But a lot
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: of guys go into thinking I was doing it the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: honorable way all year long, fighting for the boys, doing
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: whatever I can to get back here, feel the pressures
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: of the coach, the training, sat fans, teammates, everybody, and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I want to like I'm trying to. But then you
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: turn around if you're not in a situation to have,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: like maybe it's a leverage like Jeff has or someone
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: who usually it does not work out for you that way,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But you think, damn, I thought, I thought if I
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: sacrifice and did all this, you guys would take care
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: of me. And now you're using what just happened kind
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of against me. Yeah, but that personal, Yeah, you can't
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: take that. That's a lot of guys that usually get
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: that bitter, and that's you just find out the teeth
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: of the business that way, which is unfortunate.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: When you're young, you're kind of like naive about it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You think college, you get your first off season, you
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: look at event, you're like, oh, we get the we
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: get the next few months off.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: We don't have to come back until April. And you're like,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: oh shit, and you're just you know, you're just like
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: a puppy. You're on this four year deal.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: If you if you get to you know, be with
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the team four years, you kind of just you have
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: no clue until you get bit in the ass with
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the business side and you're thinking, damn, this is how
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: it really is.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I wonder.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's really is going to come down to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: whether Jeff is on the team or not as how
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: much like how he wants to get paid because he's
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: extremely talented. He's a top three d tackle in the league.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: From I think anybody, any GM would go and say
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the same thing, what is look up Aaron Donald's contract
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: because he's got the number one contract right and it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he's That's a unique situation because Jeff has had two
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl seasons going into a contract year. But Aaron
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Donald is arguably one of the greatest defensive players of
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: all time, so he his money's gonna be crazy. Now
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: does Jeff want to sit there and say I deserve
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to get paid as much or more than Aaron Donald's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: getting paid, Because there's arguments for both sides. Jeff's younger,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: he's extremely disruptive, He's only getting better.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: How much he's a center piece you build around.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: He's a centerpiece.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: He's a centerpiece you build around. That's those words are
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: way too small.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what is it? What is it per year?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Three years? Ninety five million?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Right here, he's getting like thirty some.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Thirty something average.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Because when we were talking that, I was like, if
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: they want to pay him like number one money, it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: got to be like around thirty.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what the other d tackles like in
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: the top five get If you're look up, look up
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the top five. Top five got to be the Asian
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: everybody negotiating on his behalf, Like whether or not you
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: believe whatever it is, you're going to look at what
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's getting. Because again you're making the argument that
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: He tackles.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player who you
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: build around on defense. Like it doesn't You're like, oh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: he's not as good, blah bla blah, But that's still
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: what you're gonna look to because that's what the market
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: is at for superior defensive tackles.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Four.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: See look, the drump from Aaron Donald down to number
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: two is ten million dollars. Aaron Donald average per year
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: is thirty one the fort one more year, one per year.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Forest Buckner, it's like literally.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Playing we're at the restaurant doing napkin math. It's like
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: it looks like it could be like a twenty five
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: a year thing. Literally just making that up. I'm sure
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: people use it for headlines.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: But franchise will get the average, right, You'll.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Get the average of the one I believe, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: which is not bat That's what they were I mean,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that's what.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: They were doing with Kirk Cousins.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: They would tag him every year, he would tag him
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: every year, and then the QB market kept going up
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: every year they make him money.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: He kept getting jumped like five mil.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Washington offered him three years seventy five million, fifty guaranteed loose.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: That's not like exact, and Kirk was like, why would
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I make that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make fifty no matter what, I'm going
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to make more than that guaranteed just in the next
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: two off my franchise tags exactly, So you got to
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: come more correct than that. They played with him too much.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: He made it all the way to free agency. Three
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: teams had him at like north of ninety million dollars
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: fully guaranteed, and then you end up going with Minnesota,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: probably with like taking all the financials involved with taxes
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and everything else. Kirk, yeah, yeah, yeah, how he ended
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: up getting there because Jeff's looking at a fifth year
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: option two tags.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at. I was looking at those top three tackles.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It was Aaron, Donald Buckner, and then Chris Jones, both
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: extremely talented. I wonder if statistically what the difference between
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: those those three and Jeff is, because I know I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen from Aaron or what I've heard
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: about Aaron is he didn't have like the best year
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: this year compared to like his past time.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: All the rams went from super Bowl to five and twelve.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they obviously he didn't have he didn't have
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a great year. But that's gonna be an uphill battle
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: for Jeff if he wants to get above Aaron Donald
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: right there, because it's such a crazy outlier. That's like
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Quenton Nelson for the Guards. He I think, is like
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: three four million dollars above the next highest paid guy.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: But how old is Jeff Jeff is fourth forty five
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: years old. Man, Yeah, he's got it, and he's got he's.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Got Aaron Donald's on that thirty one, Like imagine Jeff
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: at twenty seven, twenty eight.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then if I'm a GM and I'm just
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: gonna argue that point, Aaron Donald's a generational talent, generation generationals,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: multiple generations talent, and is arguably one of the best
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: in the world. I think at this point Aaron Donald,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: at this at Jeff's point in his career, Aaron Donald
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: already had like might have already had a Defensive Play
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of the Year or we had like four All Pros
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and he was like four time Pro Bowl he had hissme.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He his resume was just insane, and then it just
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: kept going Yeah, oh, it's like it's a hard argument.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I hope Jeff gets that money. I'm just saying, like,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder where in his point if he's gonna think
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: of it logically, And I think if he thought about
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it logically and sat down with himself and his agent,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and his agent was completely honest with him, as agent
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: would say, you will be a top five pig guy.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: But I think it'll be more in the middle range
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of the top five, like the three. This is me
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: without any information trying to talk about this. I don't
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: know what the real market is other than the article
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: we just looked at. But you're thinking like twenty to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars a year sounds like something he
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: would look at and logic you have to say, Okay,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'll play for that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: A four year hundred Yeah, I would love to see
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: him get three year whatever, fully guaranteed.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Trying to said tell like, we all want them, we
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: all want one of those.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: He's one of those guys.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's like you want quarterbacks first, but you want top
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: dogs at their positions commanding these fully guaranteed contracts. You
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: might sacrifice a little bit of the ceiling, but if
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: in the if in turn, you get three years of
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal and then you're seeing the market again
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: at twenty eight years old, Like.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: That's a good position to be in, right, great to
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: be in.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And you know again it's not you know, he can
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: look at Aaron Donald's and just think like that's a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: marker for the market. It doesn't mean he thinks that's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: his floor. It doesn't doesn't mean anything other than like, hey,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a top guy at this position got thirty one he
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: signed for last year. We're getting all this influx of money.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Who knows what that looks like capwise. That's when it
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: comes on the agent.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Say if he goes a free agency, he sees that money,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: he goes to free agency, he'll see.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: A lot more than he would if he signs a
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: year or two, or say he signed this offseason, Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you would see a lot more than he would because
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you're you're giving up the ability to go to free
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: agency to sign something ahead of time. If you're gonna
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: work with the Titans on signing something early, then you're
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: gonna have to favor some things that go in the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Titans way, because you that's ultimately what a hometown discount is.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy to think twenty five million dollars a hometown discount, right, Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: those are.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: The cap situation I think got him at twenty five.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: It almost seemed like, oh, that's that could be seen
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: as a win. Yeah, you get Jeff Simmons locked in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: long term a year before his deal's up. Now, it's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: like that would be on Jeff to think you, I think,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: do I believe I'd stay healthy my fifthy I'll ride
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: this fifth year option out just because I know what
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna see.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But looming over his head of those two franchise taps. Yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: so you're looking at year seven in the league. Now
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: he is twenty eight, right, he's twenty eight years old
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: playing Now he's getting a second contract, still gonna make
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: good money, right, Still a first round draft pick, Still
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: been franchise tag twice. He probably wouldn't get franchise tag
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: toys because I think it's like top five over the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: whole league. Right, let's your position. I thought the first
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: franchise tag was at and then it levels up.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: No, I think then transition tag, but then the two
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: franchise the next one first round picks a franchise You
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: again it just I think it goes up by a percentage,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: like it has to be more than that, you than
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: the one whatever.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: At There's a.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Lot of things in the in the Titans feature that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: they really got to figure out because, like I think,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I think I've said this on this podcast, I think
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Vrabel is one of the best coaches in the NFL.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: But eventually, like you've got to have talent to match
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: that coaching as well, and it unfortunately showed this year
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: because you look at the two let at least last
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: two years.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Last year we had.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: More injuries than we did this year, but last year
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: had more we ye we had the record. Yeah, last
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: year we had more injuries and we were still the
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC. But if you look
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: at what's the major difference between last year and this year,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: If you look at the ir list, the guys that
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: played last year are now the ones that I are
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: like your main guys other than Derrick Henry, who was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: got hurt Week six of the season and was a
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: rushing leader by three hundred yards at that point, Yeah,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: would have in my mind, easily broken that two thousand
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: rushing records.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: He got what up to sixteen hundred.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Right, Oh, he didn't play week seventeen, which that you're
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: talking about Derek last year?
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Oh last year? This year, Yeah, I think he's around sixteen.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: What do you get?
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: What do you get the other night?
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Get one hundred and twenty?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he probably might have just
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: got sixteen hundred. He was top man going into that
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: last game.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he's number two, right, Josh
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Jacobs and him?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Now Nick Chubb did Chubb was two, Derek was three.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: He finished two man Urrican Chubb have some I have
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a weird whether they have a rivalry or not they
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: have a rivalry. I think they have a little rivalry.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Hubb is a beast to that beast bro around him, assassin.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Is he really like that he's talk he doesn't talk
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: like if you get if I mean, if you get
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: him outside the complex hanging out, he's hilarious. Like once
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: he stops starts talking, he's he'll be like the funniest
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: guy in the room. But like in the complex and
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: then on the field, you don't say a word. Business
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: And he scored. He like we were playing the Chargers
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: this year. I'm blocked safety in the hole makes a
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: miss when it's like fifty yards for a touchdown, stiff
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: arms Khalil Mack on the goal line, just hands the
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: ball to the ref and walks off the field like
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: this guy's crazy.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: That's a cool that's a cool fucking deal.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: And when Derek lost to Josh Jacobs, though I let
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the league in rushing and he was somebody they didn't
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: pick up his fifth.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Year eye no, so he went in a good tweet
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: He went in this year with a massive chip on
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: his shoulder because from what I've heard, I don't know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Josh or anything, but from my
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: understanding is they were trying to shop him for like
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: a third round picking preseason, and he's aware.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: He was aware of that.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: So him going out and leading the league in rushing,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: he goes crazy, kind of like the big middle finger
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: to everybody, like I'll fucking show you guys like that's
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you love to see that, you hope it's like, don't
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: take any fucking discount. It's like the mindset of Jeff,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Like if Jeff's going into it like you know, then
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I'll put I've sacrifice all this. You want to see
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: players get paid and not have all this stuff that
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they've used like against you and everything else.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: It's always like the pro pro player mentality.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: It's like if he they didn't pick up his fifty
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: or they did pick up his fifty option and he
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: was pissed about it. It's almost like, how do you
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: navigate those words? Like Josh, he now gets to go taste.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Uh, running back.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: It's probably knowing in the NFL feeling better than Josh.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Right now, you've got to feel good about how the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: the year you just had, especially again led the league
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in rushing on a roster where it seemed like every
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: position was talked about except the running back.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, we got to get running back, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: we got.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: The dog Derek Carr with DeVante Adams, Darren Waller on
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: a renfo all those boys, and then you kind of,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you know, Josh was kind of an Actressut they don't
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: pick up his option, It's like, all right, birds to everybody,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'm about to lead the league in rushing.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Raiders are by far the most underachieving
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: team in the NFL this year.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Oh for sure.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I mean Titans are kind of there too, right, So
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: they had a bunch of injuries to hang their hat
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: on its insurance.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Not everyone, Like a lot of people were saying talking
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: about the Raiders competing for the Super Bowl. When get there,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I said, my hot take was the Chiefs weren't gonna
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: I was obviously very wrong about that, but it was
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: a tough.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: But again there's there's bias, like I'm rocking with the
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: boys in silver and black, dude, and I thought this
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: was gonna be the year and.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: It'll be the coolest uniforms in you don't you know?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I still want what like five and three I feel
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: like on the year picking the division winners, I think
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: like to see a better ratio.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: However, I had one more if Saturday worked out a
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: little bit better.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I know Titans were one.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Titans were one that I picked, And there was a
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: part of me too that was thinking about picking Jaguars
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, and.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, I can't do that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have pissed me off, right, yeah, because
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: who were talking about how would have pissed me off?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Peter seeing justin Lawrence. We stayed out on this.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Podcast though for those of you think we just joke
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: around on this podcast, we legit have said Jacksonville is
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: a good football team, they just need a good coach.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: We said that first when they've had they had like
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: three straight number one picks.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Like I know, they really have just like holstered in
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: their shit.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like Doug Peterson probably was a big help
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: like him going there for sure.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Organization dude, Yeah, with the boys pushing the cart in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the same direction.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: What since we're talking about mindsets too.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: In the season abruptly ins like where where does where
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: does the headspace go?
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: For somebody like you in your position?
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Again, you come in the last three weeks of the year,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: season's over, you see the look on everybody's face like
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you're not as acclimated, and it's into all the buying
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that the Titans did all year long for to be like,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: fuck man, we didn't get it. What's it like for
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: you now going into the off season.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when it abruptly ends, I mean it's
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: just stuck. But you just like you navigate those emotions obviously,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: I can media you are Okay, Shoot, where am I
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: going to be next year?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I Am I not going to be back here?
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be somewhere else where am I about to
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: live for the off season? Is my apartment even still
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: a thing in Cleveland?
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: So just like working through it all. So yeah, I
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: want to be back in Tennessee.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Had good exit meetings, so we'll see how kind of
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: like free agency for me shakes out.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: But hopefully it's back here.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: So you if you you're wishless, would be Tennessee, Yeah
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: for sure, Tennessee.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Boy, for sure.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: I mean I'm front not from Tennessee, but played at Tennessee.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Loved Nashville, Nashville Rips National's.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Dope in the state is like seems like they're root
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: for you hard for.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Sure, and like I've enjoyed my time in the complex,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Like the guys are cool, even though I got to
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: cross paths with him a couple of times, but everyone's
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: everyone's pretty cool in the complex.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: So it's been cool.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: The I wonder from the outside looking at like if
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I was Since I've been on IR since week two,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I've like turned myself into a fan obviously, and watching
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Malik the first few weeks obviously it was it was tough, right,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: like it's I think he had eighty eight yards passing
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: in the last game before you started, and when you
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: came in, it was like damn, like here out there
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: slinging that thing, and then everything like gets in your
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: head like damn, like dude, been for five days, he's
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: done that, Like he's been able to do this at
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: this time, Like you actually in a time where there
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: was no.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Hope for Tennessee.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: You look, he gave the boys hope and I thought
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Saturday you were going to go in there and it
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: was gonna work out.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: He has had it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that game because I really, I really
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: do want to talk about that, But what is a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: what what was it like with Malik? Because knowing Malie
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: for the short time I did obviously during Camp OTA's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, Uh, get very charismatic, very energetic.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Great dude.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: You just wonder if, like, is he a guy that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: can develop into something that people thought he was going
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to be when they're coming of Liberty before the draft
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: saying he could be a top ten pick, or is
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: this one of those things where it just is not
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It's not going to work out and that's no shot
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: at Malik. That's more just like wondering, I guess, like
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: does he have it, and that's not for you to answer.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: My My question for you is like, how was the
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: process between you two and like you quick coming in,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: quickly changing.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: In the guard, you know, it was good. I mean
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: it was smooth, as smooth as it can be. Yeah,
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: you know, I know obviously, you know, being his his
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: position is probably was tough on him. And I know
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: he would love to be out there too, playing competing.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: But as you said, Malik is a great dude. And
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: so Malik and I we trained with the same guy
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: in Atlanta, so I met him this last offseason. Actually
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: I was getting ready for the draft and stuff, just
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: in QB training and it's a small circle. So yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: I mean he was still the same guy throughout the
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: whole process, extremely positive with the players, being a great
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: teammate who was great to me and helping me just
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: get acclimated, and then like little things that quarterback and hey,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: what's the cadence? Was the reminder to the O line,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: what's the communication the huddle? Just how have you guys
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: done it? Just to make sure we're smooth on everyone.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: He was awesome.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, playing quarterback in the NFL is not
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: the easiest profession, and it takes time to learn.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: How to do it. Took me time.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: I've had a lot of reps, even though i haven't
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: played a lot, so I've had a lot of reps
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: at doing it and watching guys do it at a
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: high level. And so Malik will probably be the same process.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: But he seems like he worked really hard, he wants,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: he wants to be successful. I think it starts there,
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm excited to see how he comes back
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: this offseason.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Being a VET, if you were to give advice to
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: a young rookie quarterback, obviously I'm saying Molik in the situation,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: if you're you were to give advice to a rookie
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: quarterback going into their first offseason, what would it be.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at your career.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I would say one, just like, take a breath,
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: as we know that first off season. You've been going
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: for a year and a half straight from the start
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: of your senior year, So take a time just to
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: take a breath and realize like how important football is
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: to you, but also what other interests you have out
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: there just as a human being, and just take a
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: step back and then from there, like February comes around.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: Then craft your plan of hey, what are the five
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: things I want to get better at between now and OTAs,
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: and work hard every day at those those things, whether
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: it's something in the in the playbook, whether it's footwork
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: on the field, whether it's one throw you're trying to master,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: but just find that rhythm, routine, consistency, see, because then
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: if you find that, then once you go to OTAs,
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: you can take that same process and then use it
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: all the way until the season.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: So that's I mean, that's my biggest avice. That's what
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I did for myself.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: It took a step back, took a took a breath,
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: figured out what I want to improve on, and then
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: just went from there.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Question for both of you guys, is there anything you
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: guys look back on you issued a new at a
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: younger age, like when you are navigating the first off seasons,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like a lot of guys get excited, right,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: they can travel, they can do a little bit more.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: And I'm hearing you say like good stuff, and I'm thinking,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: like I'm on that because it's like we can all
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: sit here and talk about I know you both have
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: knowledge on it, but how crucial routine process. All that
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: stuff is if you're trying to be a better NFL
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: football player at your position.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I think like the people always say, like, don't take breaks,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: So I feel like the break is really what helps
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: you come back more uh more energized to work hard.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: You know, Like taking it sucks when you're done the
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: first week of January. So taking the month just to
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: decompress from the emotions of the season, whether you're in
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: one spot the whole year starting or you weren't, or
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: you were in three different spots like myself, just taking
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: that time to decompress is so powerful, just mentally. And
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: then when February comes, you watch the Super Bowl, You're like,
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: that's my goal. I want to be there. And then
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: the next week you just work hard, yeah, you know,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: and just get right back at it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say. I think the break is
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: a huge thing. My first couple of years, I like
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: didn't take a break. I was like, when people are resting,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this is when I'm gonna I'm gonna get them.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: And then you kind of realize that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: You get into like late November December and you're like,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: damn tired, kind of burnt down. You don't really know
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: why you don't like put that into in your head
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, you have been working since forever, like
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: since your senior year, and now you're in your second year.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And so the when I saw the biggest jump from
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: my success was week year two to year three. And
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that's when I actually took the longest break I did,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: which was like, I think we didn't make the playoffs obviously,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and then I took like three or four weeks like
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: first of February, when I was like, all right, this
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: is when we start, and it's like it's very rejuvenating.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: You get to like get back to neutral a little
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: bit because you're drained, dude. The end of the season
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: is so draining. Everything hurts always, and you're just like thinking, like, damn,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I'm having to make it to this next game, right,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like little things because when you're out of it,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: like I've been out of it for so like for
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: so long, relatively since week two. I don't have any
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: pain in my body, Like my neck doesn't hurt, but
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I remember being like, damn I ever felt every time
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: my head touches something, I get a stinger like or
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: like my ankle or whatever, and you're like, damn, this
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is just awful, and so you kind of forget what
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it feels like, and that's you're like just ready to
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: get back into it. But if you don't take that break,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: then you're screwed. You kind of you put yourself in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a in a deficit, like the return on investment no
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: longer is there for you anymore after if you just
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: keep going the whole time, you just get burnt out right.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And also, I partied a whole bunch out for my
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: rookie years, So you're parting the shiploading I was out
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. I feel like that stuff happens.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: That's almost why, Like, you know why, I wanted to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: like raise the question in case they're having to beat.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of Tier one rookies out there.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: They're probably listening to this podcast.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if you're a rookie, and you were
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: you were a drafted rookie, like a top three round
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: draft pick, like there is, you finished the season and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I can't believe the season is over.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: But then in that same thought process, you're like, holy fuck,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I got all this money.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I got all this time. You know what I'm saying.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: You know, if you ever had.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Money, like like we too all the time, or you
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: didn't just have the season, but you like, like you
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: were talking, you're training for the combine. You're going to Yeah,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: you're doing all the bells and everything. You're you're pretty
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: much shot, You're anything.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Then you get done and yes, dam I got
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: a bank, a big account. Money in the world, in
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: What you want, you want, bro, the most embarrassing thing
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me, or like that. I look
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: back and I just go ooh, fuck, dude, that was tough.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: My rookie year. After my rookie year, the Super Bowls
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I'm from Arizona for those of you
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: listening who don't know, I go back. I go to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: old town Scottsdale and it's a great spot. I'm a
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Cave Creek guy, like I'm more of like a small
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: town kid. But I'm like, I'm fucking showing that ship off.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I get the table. I go to l Hafe. A
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: couple of girls from high school show up. Why because
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: they got to see they got to see that your
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: boys made it a little bit.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: This girl I had like a bunch of money in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: my uh in my pocket, like a bunch of twenties.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: This girl like in the air. I'm like, I'm really him,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: look at this money flying through the air.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Thinking to myself like that, like not realizing that you'll
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: be a fucking idiot right now, dude, go on a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: bender for four days straight.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: It was embarrassing. It was fucking tough.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Dude. You get out of that little four day piece
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I haven't really slept. I've been acting
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: like a fucking idiot. I've been doing a lot of extracurriculars.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: It was a fucking tough gig for me, and it
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: was really like a come to Jesus moment, Like mister
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: A came and picked me up. It's a random apartment complex,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: wearing the same outfit I was wearing four days before,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: but the buttons on the shirt were like wrong.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has a picture of me.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: He literally says, it's the most disappointed I've ever been
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: in You was that I slept like eighteen hours. Literally
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: went to a small coma like just to say it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: was just bad. I haven't parted like that since. Yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed that that's hilarious.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I don't do that.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so don't learn from me.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Don't do that, ship dude.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: It's cooler to pretend like you don't have money.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: It's good that you said all those things too, because
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like every all every.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: In a little bit, I was being an idiot, damn idiot. Yeah,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: there's more, but I don't know if I want to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: go into it, but not to go another time.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: What should we transition into next?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Jaguars Titans game. We watched the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: game together.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted, but there
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: are two plays that stick out in my head that
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: we can go over. One is what the fuck was
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Trailing Burke's doing when he tossed that ball over his head?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: What was that a cold play? Okay, thank god, because
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I literally.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Thought, like, there's no way it's done that, Like, that's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: not in the playbook. What the fuck is that put that?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: We put that in on Friday? Whatever Friday is for Thursday. Well,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: we were expected its like third and fifteen. They usually
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: play like a little off zone coverage. Yeah, we thought
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: we're gonna throw it the trailing on a slant and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: then they're going to rally to just tackle and then
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: he's gonna throw it to the back, and we ran
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: in and practice against.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: The defense and it worked perfectly. Really it was. It
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: was like third and seventeen.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Threw at the trailing, he threw it to the back
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: and he got like thirty yards right, all right, all
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: bet might as well try it. Yeah, just lost that
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: ship up in the air, dude. I was almost to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: it almost when you hold it, though. I was surprised.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be like later in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: the game, I have it, like all right, we need something.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: But that was like the second, first quarter, like the quarter, third,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: third down of the game.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Fucking Michigan running the Philly Special against TCU in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: first quarter on the first drive.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: What are y'all doing? Yeah?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Like late, like late the game?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: It was a late game call, yeah, for sure, Like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: going off that like when you get a call in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: your headset and you know the call before you tell
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the boys, You're like, hey.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: What the fuck.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: If I'm the quarterback and they're like, yeah, do the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: fun I don't want to play. What's the play called? Uh?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: It's called uh? Like tracks like a razorback for Trailing.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Razorback and you're in your head like, holy fuck, what
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: what was the.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: D and D?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: So I was starting fifteen and we're in field goal range.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: I'm literally just stereing on the trailer. Be smart, like,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: don't don't do anything stupid.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I don't throw it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Don't throw it like way back they get the ball,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: like because we got points and we're about to start
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: off this game on the road with points and we
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: need we need these points. So don't say don't do
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: anything dumb. And the crazy thing was it worked. It
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: just wasn't backwards like it was literally like to really taught.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I can't believe he played like that
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: all he's falling down, dude, I remember watch throw it
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: through it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know how he got that off really either.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: No, just looking into Trailing's eyes before the crystal green eyes.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Situation, don't do something stupid, He's like green eyes and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: the ice said, yeah, you got it or bet or
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: something he said, and he caught that guy and as
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: his guys, this is the perfect time. Throw this fucking
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: ball in the air.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Dude, is a movie, you know, a movie scene was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: going on I'm about to be the hero.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Yes for a first down in the first quarter, first port.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I know, questionable call, questionable, questionable situation for you. Let's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: just say hypothetically, it's fourth and thirteen. Defense is in
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: a loose cover three at the sticks. I'm gonna give
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: you an empty set. I'm gonna go three routes curled
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: up at the sticks. They can get the first down.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: We put the ball on the money, and I'm gonna
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: give you two checkdowns. Where are you going with the football?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Probably should throw it past the sticky? So I was
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: so hot. I was so hot on my soul.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Bro, everybody gets the extra playoff check trainers are getting
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: an extra bullet.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: You got everything on the line. You going to the sticks,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: You're going check down. Probably sticks hindsight, I'll put it,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: I'll put it. I'll put it on me. It's straight.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: When you get that ball, I was like, oh cool,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: they're doing another one of those plays.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Throw a ball and running bowling down like thing. I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: was so hot. So did you know it was third down?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Fourth down?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: You sure? Yeah? I promise, I promise.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be dispebbled. I guess that's hard.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: That has happened, So I knew it was fourth down.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: I knew what covers they're in. It's literally like it's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: called three week by. So I mean they're standing at
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: the sticks and they're standing like right where the guys
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: are running. I told like, hey, find try to find
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: a window and everything. I was like, I'm gonna stare
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: at the guy over the ball. I'm gonna try to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: pull as many people to him as I can and
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: try to rip it the trailing into the boundary.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: So I caught it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Nick Westburgh runs with chains route and there's like four
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: guys standing there. And then I looked right and there's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: like two guys standing right next to trailing like trailing.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: One dude was right in front of him in the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: corner like touching shoulders, and then Woody like the safety
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: standing in front of him. So I'm like, the worst
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: there I canna do right now is take a sat
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: And then like it was literally as I was saying
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: that and I was about to start scrambling, it was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: just out of reaction, like hassan just flashing in front
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: of my face. I threw it right through it. I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: was like, come back, Yeah, So no, I won't suck
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: like one you just replay in your head, You're like, motherfucker,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: why did I throw that? So you for sure you're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: you're thinking like every rep in your head. I'm sure
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: you're like every repucking matters, like the resume of starting
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: right here, yeah, you know, and just like the situational place,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: like that's one thing from the first game. I was like,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: all right, let's be better. Let's be a better situation,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: which like outside of that situation the whole game, I mean,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: we were moving the ball and verting third and long
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: it's like two big fourth downs, so we were much
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: better situationally throughout the game. But yeah, in that play,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: was like, you know, just just give someone a chance.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: And I was thinking, like a couple of third downs,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: like yo, this is a huge third down, like to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: stay on the field at that play, Like the play
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: before it, I was like, all right, let's make it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: as the manageable of a fourth down as I can.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: That's why I threw the checkout too aus Son to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: play before it. But yeah, you flashed it from my
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: face on.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: And it was a false start before right hoop fall started.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: All started. They flinched you fall started. I mean they're
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: they're I mean, their front is so talented. Not really,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: so we're trying to do everything we can to slow
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: him down.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: It might have gotten better.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: I think they got better. I'll tell you what.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Josh Allen's gotten better, but he's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: gotten a lot cooler looking on the field, he does
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: look dark visor everything with the sea on the chest,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: he looks.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: He does look cool.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: He's got that perfect like Buill like, oh, that dude
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: is a dog.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you look you look over there like
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: even like like Travan Walker, like he can probably like
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: get some cooler sock swag, but like you'll get it.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: He's a rookie, Like, yeah, everyone has the time the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: rookie you're like whatever that Yeah, but whatever your way.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to look cool, you're gonna get clowned
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: on for that. If you're not doing enough, you're gonna
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: get clowned on for that.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Man, they looked the part you get out there, like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: the first thing you do, like especially at quarterback, you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: kind of size up everyone on the field and you
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: look at their line.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: They got some guys over there.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Now, hey, guys, I need you to hold up a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: little bit, but not more than Dallas.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: Your first start, Dallas was the same way Dallas was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: crazy because you looked at the line. You're like Marcus Lawrence,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: like heard a lot about him, Yeah, And you look
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: over there, like there's Michael Parson, He's really good. And
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: then you look at their cornerbacks and they're like taller
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: than me, right, and their arms are down to their knees,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: like when I can throw a go ball on that guy,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: he's as tall as the receiver. So you like size
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: up everyone. They have a large, very large defense, very
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: large defense on my LEFTMO.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: It's all good. Pause.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a no pause podcast.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: If you're sitting there when you're when I'm sure you
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: looked at the play a million times?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: What are you wishing you just did slightly different?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Are just scrambled? You know, let someone work for you?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Were you under the rest? Do you have that play?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I can't remember if you there was pressure or not.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: I think the play before I had pressure pressure like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: a couple for a couple of plays. So or just scrambled,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: get someone a chance work or scrambled drill?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, damn, yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Damn, I know, bro.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: We were dialed in. We were watching no fired up.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: We were fired up. I really thought that reminds me.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, finish your thought. Were you talking about the turnover? Yeah,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's your thoughts on that lay?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: The turnover?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Because what was it?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: That was a six man protection with a load to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: the right side, to the.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: Right, and they brought the pressure earlier. They're like, if
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: you see two to the back, you can flipper it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: But also the look like all week were like, slide
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: to the load. Yeah, slide to the load. I mean
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: it's Josh Allen and then it's two and third, do
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: you lineman, and then we'll pick up the game on
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: the back side.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Slide to the load.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: So I look at it, I'm like, Almosa, slide to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: the load, and then you're bringing a safety off the edge,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: which I felt him. I felt him rushing, I felt
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: him coming. I felt I felt him rushing from behind.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: You was this you felt him behind? He was coming
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: behind you, coming from behind you? Look behind you, Yeah,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I'm coming up that back. I felt him rushing. So
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna drift to the right.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: And Freilan had like eight to ten yard route and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: so I was just trying to give him time to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: work off the defender and literally a milli second later,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: he catches the ball on the sideline for a first down.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I mean he was wide open. So that's football.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: So when you so you saw the overload, you're all right,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: they're going to pick that up. But you knew the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: safety was coming, and didn't know the safety was coming.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: You know, the city was coming, didn't know the safety
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: was I didn't know the situation, but it was there
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: was a linebacker, linebacker mug and the safety. Linebacker dropped. Yeah,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: in my head, linebacker drops, I'm like the back. I'm
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: thinking the back will pick up the safety. The backs
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: head he's.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Thinking I got to help out with the internal game.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: And then the left guard is sinking. I got to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: push to the load. For their games to the load
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: so everyone's more sliding right. And then it was kind
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: of he became a free rusher just based off their
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: scheme on damn.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, I thought it was a four pass. Yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: we didn't see it.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: We didn't see it on the field because obviously when
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: you're away, they never play any replays, especially of the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: biggest play of the game.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: At the Titans in the Citium, they do replace. They
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: will there will be calls that go our way, and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: then those show on the base in the back. Oh,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: we should probably probably throw the challenge.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I feel like. That's what they're supposed to do, right.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: They're trying to show the replays that are in your favor.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: But Jacksonville could have thought that's a ward pass exactly.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville could have thought, Oh, this doesn't look like it's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: in our favor. Don't show the replay.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Number two also looks very cool. He can you go
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: back to the Uh yeah, I want to see this
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: that that same play like this view the next one
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: is the next Uh yeah, I think it's the next one.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the checkdown or you know, I'm talking
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: about that play where he gets uh. I want to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: see that the whole entire thing.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Man, and they took it to the.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, something slide to the load.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but there's a mug there. There's no one coming.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: If you're signing the load. I'm not going to say
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: what the call is, but they're signing. These two are
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Man and Haskins. Is his gap is right here in
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: this a gap because unless somebody else is coming, because
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: his either a gap. He should be picking up that
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: guy if no one was coming. If they're rushing, they're
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: rushing five. Yeah, they only brought five because okay, hey, sorry,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: go back. Forty one ended up dropping to the field.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Is this a bigger a little?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: That's a little. That's the linebacker. Okay, so that is
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: that is a son's damn you trailing?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Tis a crib damn And it was Josh, that's four.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like they didn't look at it very long.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: You neither.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I don't think they did either. But to me, it's
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: like if you could have just had that grip.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: For just a millisecond, Yeah, millisecond.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Thing, it's almost like it even though your arm's going
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: forward a little bit with it, you can see your
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: you can see yeah.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Which I get that part of it, But with the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: like I get like he's hitting me for it, but
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: the ball got your hand right.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Like, here's my thing.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: If you you know what, you go back there and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: QB is like sometimes they throwing the ball just slips
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: out and goes backwards. But if it slipped down and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: goes forward, that's before it passed. That's the same exact situation.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: That's a good point exact situation, come buying that stock.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: That's I think Jackson have won. You think then we punt.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Our defense stops, so when we take a knee, we
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: go home.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: The Titans got cheated out of a division title.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: We can say, yeah, go back, Uh, go back to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: that play. The play we were talking about the sact.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: What I want to see the down in distance third
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: and third and five thirty five. How much time is left?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: Three minutes, three minutes we get the first down, three
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: minutes in the game, three manus left in the game.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: That was right afterwards?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: What you got you got on your mind?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Nothing?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Just as armchair quarter I'm arm chair quarterbacking in my
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: head right now. Third and five defense has been has
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: been playing well. I think why not take a very
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: like not you could You could absolutely run it. You
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: could absolutely run the situation five on third and five
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: with two minus fifty one seconds of the game.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: You can run it.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: You could run it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Can do a very quick, high percentage throw and hope
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: he gets the sticks because your defense. Look at the score.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: The defense has been playing great all game, and we
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: have the best punter in the league. Who's gonna hit
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: that ball fifty sixty fucking yards. You do that, you're
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: just talking about a completely different game right now. Three
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: timeouts on both sides, there's a.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: They'll probably burn one if you run, you run it,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: they'll probably burn it to save it before the two minute.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point too.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: But third and five, you're still trying to get the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: first down.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: You're still trying to get the first down. But you
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: gotta go with like a super high percentage throw. Then
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: that might that might have been a high percent throw.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: They just they just their scheme beat our scheme in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: this situation with how they were setting the things.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it comes down to literally a millisecond. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: it's totally different too.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: If you sit there and let's say we're not sliding
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: to the load, and you think, all right, we got
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: we have five guys up. Basically, why don't we just
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: mic this guy over the left guard.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Now you have five on five.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Now Haskin picks up that that safety off the edge.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, you didn't get him. That's a four pass. That's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: a four pass.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Play it live, play live, And I get like the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: rule where they say, all right, let's let it, let's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: let it, let's let it go this What I was like, alright,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: they'll let it go and then they'll be like.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: It was a four pass if you just saw that.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: No, man, you think that's a four past because again
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: he's not hitting the ball forward.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: No, he's in my arm, which is like an eight
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: nine yard throws.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: The exact same play.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you try, you try to think of another
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: argument for your times if you're being biased and if
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: they're if y'all are playing the Patriots. When Tom was there,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, obviously they're having bias ards the Patriots.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: They want them to go to the playoffs?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Did it same play? Go back?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: We should pull up that play?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Pull but the tech crule No way. Hey, oh, yesterday,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: I want to, uh, the way you framed that question
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: him about the checkdown, It was a really good job. Yeah,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: that was what did it great? Did you think about
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: that before?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of something I was messing with.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I was telling Caleb I wanted to ask a question
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: about the fourth and twelve play, like, Hey, I'm gonna
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: give this situation where we're getting a few out, we're
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: gonna have a check down fourth and twelve game in
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: the line where you going with the ball.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry, he started laughing and Caleb was doing with Caleb dust. Yeah,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: it's like painting it even more and talks about there's
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: a forty thousand dollars check for everybody on the on
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: the roster waiting to.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Go to the playoffs. Get Yeah, that's a that's a deal.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: You're thinking, how fuck I wanted that check? You goddamn
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean anywhere you sliced the dude. You
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: played well in those two games.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: You played well enough for the Tennessee Titans to win
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: the Dallas I don't know, like it just didn't go
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: our away that one.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: They they played well too, They played well, they had.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: More talent on the field. Like that is what it is,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: excepting you gave Tennessee an opportunity to win. And that's
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: all at the end of day's quarterback, that's what you did.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You did a great job and your second start in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, that's incredible. You have everything to be
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: proud of.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Like you can nitpick yourself on the fourth and thirteen
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: all day, but really you are There's three things that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: can happen when you are a backup thrust into a
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: starting role in the league. You can play so well
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: that this dude needs to be a start in the NFL.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: You can kind of stay where you're at, or you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: can play yourself out of the NFL and you are
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: in those top two and.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: On on drop of the hat. Like again, you did
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: that within a week ten days.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Notice, let's say let's say I mean, I'm assuming Tannehill's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the on the roster next year. He's there,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: You're the number two. People know Tannehill goes down like, oh,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: we got Josh Dopps, We're gonna be all right, we
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: can go play, we can go we have an opportunity
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: to win a game exactly season under. But you've leveled
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: yourself up just off of twenty days.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: How cool is that? It's more than that.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, like and that was Terry Sport is like, well,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: why wuldn't you just like just go back to Cleveland,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: like send back to their practice squad.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: It's like you have to.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: You have to.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: You're not if you're not especially a quarterback, if you're
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: not drafted in the first round, or a team doesn't say, hey,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: we want you to be our guy and we're gonna
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: put you on this field until you are successful. To
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: be the guy you have to look around and say, hey,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: I have to make an opportunity for myself.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: And that's what you did. Is that how you feel
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: about it too? Like, yeah, for sure, the game gets done,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Like you're obviously upset. You're like, fuck, man, I would
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: have loved to have gotten in the playoffs. But now
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: you can kind of sit back and look at these
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: last two weeks like you took advantage of your opportunity.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Definitely see him and any doubt that might have crept
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: into your mind over the last six years of being like,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: am I a start in this? Like because everybody has
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: self doubt? Of course everybody has that you have silenced
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: in your own head.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: That's those critics what you really like and you affirm
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: to yourself that your process works for you.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean that that's the biggest thing.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: When you do the process and then there's no result
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: at the end of it, like there's nothing, there's nothing
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: to show for it. You're just sitting there like, Okay, yeah,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: I have some good preseason tape, but a lot of
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: guys have good preseason tape. No going out and actually
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: playing like in big games, like and playing well. I'm
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: in those moments. It's completely different than saying, yeah, you
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: played really well in August against basic cover four and
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: cover three defenses for three weeks.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I know it.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: It definitely does feel good to make the most of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: the situation. Wish I could have made more of the situation,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: you know, like not throw the checkdown.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Fortunately I'm working with you on that, so I mean
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: But also, did you really tell it trailing to be
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: smart with the ball on that play? For sure? All right?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: For sure? It's like sure and again on him there.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: You know that you can do it. It's like six
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: years is a long time not doubt yourself.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: But again, leaning back on conversations with Colt McCoy, he's like, man,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: because injuries would kind of hurt him to like be
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: a full time starter, because he would he would get hurt.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: He's got to get injury history.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, man, I just want to know that everything
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: I'm doing every day because he was very like regimented
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: process like first in last all that shit, bro every
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: fucking day. So I'm like, yo, you know why you
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: still blah blah blah. And it's like, man, when I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: do get the opportunity, I just want to know that
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: I can can do and everything I'm doing is correct,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Like I just want to prove myself that, like I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: can be a starter. I can't go out there and
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: win a big game exactly. But yeah, no, that's sick, man,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: it does suck that. It's like the boys don't get
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: to go into the playoffs.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: And also I didn't get a check either. I would
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: have got a check on I R. You would have
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: got a check, Yeah, I would have got check check.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Remember Kyle Phillips, Yeah, I wanted to pay for his wedding.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he think this check will pay for my wedding.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: This check will pay for my wedding.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: Sorry. But there's a lot of guys.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys on the Titans roster that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I think made themselves money. Like I think Jordan Ruse
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: went out and I think he played really well. He
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: plays hard. I think Corey Levin went out there and
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: made some money for himself.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Like those are the guys that I've rooted for, But
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I like, I'm not in alignment. So I don't know
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: if Yeah, I thought I thought Jordan. I think he's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: been starting for five weeks.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I think he is.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: He played good like not hey did you did?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: You did? All right?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Well, he played good football a couple you want back
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: here and there. But I think he proved he proved
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of people wrong. I think Corey did the
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: same thing because Corey's not the same person he was
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: draft is the same draft class as year seventeen.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: Corey's like stories very similar to mine. And we were talking,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: like I was talking to him on the plane last night.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: Was that yesterday? Two days ago? It Sawli Blur and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, that was just my fourth start.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: Like Corey, it was just your fourth start last night.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, that was your second. That's crazy.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: COR's the best. That is awesome. He's super smart. But
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the way he talks, like is this guy.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Where he's coming out slower than he's Oh dude.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: He thinks fast and talks slow. He is a dude though,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Like when he got here in twenty seventeen, I don't
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: think he was a guy that I perceived as being
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: happy to be on the football team, like happy to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: be in the NFL I've made it because I'm here
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just thankful for yeah being in the room.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: And then he uh, he got cut.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I think he went to the Jets and then he
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: went to Denver and we had to the Bears, and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: the Bears too for a hot second, kind of like
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: really in a big limbo part of his life gets
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a I guess a fourth chance in Tennessee again and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: is A was a completely different person still same great personality,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: still talked real slow. But he was definitely one of
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: those guys that I could see he has made like
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: a maturity growth being like I'm not satisfied with just
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: being on a roster, and I think I think the
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: boy made himself some money this the last few weeks.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: You're out of role to know that you're a defendable,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: you're a dependable backup emergency situation, which.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Is I think Corey could be a starter in the NFL,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: and I do believe Jordan Ruse can be also.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: I feel what you're saying.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying from situations like that, you almost need
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: the confidence to know I've carved out, like I'm going
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: to be on a roster next year. Now I get
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: to take advantage of actually competing for a job, because
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: when you're in and out of it that you're almost thinking, like, man,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: what situation can I get into?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Make the roster?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: And then you get to play a few games and
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: you almost feel like, Okay, I've earned myself some money,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: meaning like I've earned myself a fifty three man spot.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Now how can I look at as.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: A whole different winning a job? Different headspace? Yeah, yeah, space. Yeah.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Because Jordan's stayed with me.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: His family was in Texas, and during camp when they
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: were released the veterans, Jordan's like, I don't I don't
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: want to stay in the hotel?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Can I stay at your house? So he didn't.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: We would drive together to practice, we would go we
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: would constantly talk about like his situation because he would
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: lean on me because obviously being somewhere knowing that I'm
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have a role on this team and what I'm
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be, he would lean on me, and I would
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of like get Look, he gave him a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: letter grade every.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Day I was a fit. You did this well.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: I thought you could have done this better. Blah blah blah.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: But put a really good camp together, and I think
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: it was really looking where because at first it was him,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Daniel Munyer and Corey and there's always, you know how
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: camp is, there's always like battles within the position group,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: and that was his battle per se. Munyar gets hurt
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: in one of the scrimmage practices we have, and I'm
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: hurt for Monier because that's my boy. But Jordan, he's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: sad for Munyar too, But at the same time he's thinking,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I got an opportunity. That's one off the list right there.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Nate has a couple of things. Corey he starts feeling
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: more into a center role. So I'm looking at the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: end of camp thinking, oh, my boy's gonna make this team.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Like he's literally willed himself into, had a great camp,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: played hard. I think he had a tough last preseason
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: game and he was it was really weighing on him.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: And then two days before the active roster's done, we
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: traded for Dennis Daly and I think that's the one
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that took him out of the race because he was
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: a guy for that moment took him out and because
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: he asked me like, what do you think, I'm like, well,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know the kid. I don't know Dennis Daly
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: very well. I know him better now obviously, but I
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: was like, he seems like a tackle, all right.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: I think they they traded.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: I thought they were trading for a tackle because there
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: was a whole situation with Dylan Raiden's he and Nick
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: were fighting for the tackle spot. Then Nick wins that
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I think they're now trying to play Dylan in an
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: inside three position, which also puts a little more pressure
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: on Ruse, and they bring Dennison to be the backup tackle.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously a week into it, Dennis was thrust into a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: starting job. But that's what It's crazy. How you do
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: all the right things and now he's fucking out, you
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But and then on the other hand,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: he sits there, he works hard, gets elevated, sits around
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: for ten weeks. He's making activated money. He's grinding. Got
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: guys a workhorse. Also, you're a workhorse too. I saw
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: you in that weight room a few times. You were
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: getting after it.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Appreciated that wait on. But I'm proud of I'm proud
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: of Russ. I think I think his year is like
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: just the grinder. He's a grinder.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: That's literally making his NFL dream work, and I'm fucking
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: proud of that guy's doing a great job.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: So the stories are like awesome because it's like, shoot,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: you just you got grind. Just keep grinding, keep grinding,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: crying the way, keep chipping away.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: See like, I feel like.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: You can see all the all those guys, right, and
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: then you see the decisions made by one half and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: then decisions made by the other half. The other half
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: kind of like you know, gets weeded out of the process,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: and you're kind of just you watch Ruse do his
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: thing and you're just thinking, man, like, I fucking I'm
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: rooting for him, because this motherfucker does all things.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Everything right right, and then three times themselves out of
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the league. He was late to meetings three times. You
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: never slept three times this year. And I will publicly
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: say that Jordan Ruse, he needs that accountability. I got
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: almost everything well probably, Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: That's gonna be tough from here. Then on a public platform,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: that's gonna be.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: Tough from there.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: But I've already said so many nice things. There's gotta
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: be something. I have a dragon for the ball. It
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: takes his one jab and he's flash. It's like the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: comments on Twitter. Did you see ten good ones and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: one bad one? Now one bad one? Things way worse.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: About a chugging ability? And he was flustered.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're fast, like you, you shouldn't talk about
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: peoples chuggability because of you're incredible.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm talking about. All I had
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: to do is tell Jordan like, oh yeah, Taylor murked
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: you what are you talking about? And he was bamboozled
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: for like the next two months.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, easily rattled Jordan Russ. That's that's a tough pendulum
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: swing on him just now. Because there were so many
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: good things that about him. He was started that that's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: on me, that's on me. That's tough.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: What do we talk about now? This dude is an
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: aerospace engineer.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't that's true. That's true Twitter certified rocket,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: certified rocket scientist.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: You're a certified rocket scientist.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: It was on my Twitter. I thought that that was
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: the coolest thing.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: I've changed it when when I graduated, it's like certified
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: rocket scientists.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: You know, that is insane. It's almost like the default
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: thing you want to be when you grow up, when
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: you're just the youngest.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: I won't be a rocket. Scientists, Yeah, what does that
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: even mean? You you scientifically know rockets now? Yeah, exactly,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: like build you a rocket, go to space general studies major.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: One of my classes was astronautics and it was like
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: actually pretty mind blowing because it was literally like space travel,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: so you were you were doing. It's called like Homan
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: transfers and non Homan transfers, so just like talking about
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: like trajectory. What are those two words, what are those
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: words mean? Homeland Homan transfer. It's just like rockets going
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: to like you're trying to send a rocket from like
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: Earth to Mars, like Earth to another planet, just like
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: the math.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: And stuff around it. You're gonna love our tier talk.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: What's what's that?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: You'll find out in a little bit. Okay, don't worry,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's what you're talking about. But very dumb down
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: eight year olds are gonna love.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: This part of the show. Perfect. What was your one
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: question going to be?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: Is time travel real?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: So my time traveling my time travel traveling piece is
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: it's like so like time is the fourth dimension in
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: our so like you had if you're in a two
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: two dimensional world, no, no, no, so unbelievable, or if
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: you're in a two D world. Like if you're two
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: D world like a picture book. Right, you got two dimensions,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: the third dimensions time, so it's like the ability the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: fourth that's actually the fourth dimension. We're in a two
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: D world. Now we went back. Okay, if you, like
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: you have a book, it's two D. So the third
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: dimension movie times, like the ability to like just flip
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: the page pages and like go from a different spot
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: in the book. So like in our three dimensional world,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: time is the fourth dimension. So if you could time travel,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: you have to be four dimensional in a three dimensional world.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, yeah, okay, So I understood what you
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: said kind of, but I don't think you answered the question.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's time travel is real at the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: moment because I feel like I saw like one thing.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: One theory is like if time travel is real, like
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: time travel can't be real until the day someone creates
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: a time machine, because then you can time travel backwards
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: and force to that point. But until someone creates the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: time machine, you can't time travel to an area of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: time where there's.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: No time machine.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: Do you think the potential's out there?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen an interstellar I have seen an
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: interstellar fire.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, so hold on, that's the will read
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: h Yeah, he's like before you could just pick where
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: he wanted to go in the three DIMENSIONLD because it's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: in the fourth dimension.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: So if time time travel is only real when time
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: travel is made when there's a time machine made, when
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: a time machine made. So if the time machine was
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: made right now, and it was right outside this building,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: and we said, okay, we're going to time travel. We
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: can only travel to the future, we can't travel to
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: the past. Interesting, you want to know what's the theory
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: I just saw. I don't know if that's true. No,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take that as facts right out. That's you
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: just gave me all the information I now know about
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: time travel. Like that is that's a fucking it.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: Do you know what's crazy?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Is like, say, the potential to create that is out
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: there the moment it gets made, and you can time travel.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: Our future selves already knew we were going to come
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: up with this.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they look at their history books and say, oh,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Torn twenty two is.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Out behind the library right now, a bookshelf just yelling
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: do this?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Do that?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows that it's.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: Going to come at some point.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: What massive implications are there on our species human beings
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: with travel with no with time travel being able for
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the common man to do, isn't that extremely dangerous?
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: I think so, I don't. I don't know.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 8: What's your opinion? Do you think rocket science? Come correct, brother,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: because now we're talking about the butterfly fact. Well, like
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 8: being a rocket science is so fun because people a
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 8: great movie. People are like, you got to know everything,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: like you becoming rock sided. People ask me about everything
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: like I don't. I don't know everything. I just know
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: like rocket sciences stuff, so like time travel, like I know,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 8: like I.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Know the couple No rocket science. You think you're all
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just a man, but I do know rocket science.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: They're not all knowing.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: When you're done playing ball? Then what do you want
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: to do with that?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Show it off on podcasts? Show it off? Yeah?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: Be like, uh, we create the podcast?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: What's the guy that goes on the podcast and talks
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: uh the astrophysicists. Yeah, Neil de grasse be like him
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: in talk circles around people.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: No, I won't, I won't. I won't do that you
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: have my attention.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, so I've done stuff at NASA, like I
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: want to get my polot license this off season that
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: they will do that?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Why wherever? I think that would be dope like stuff
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: like that. I really like aviation.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: I really like aviation like stuff like growing up, planes
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: was always my passion. I start aerospace engineering because aeronautical
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: engineering would be just aviation. Aerospace engineering is aviation and space,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: so you get both just to see the differences.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: But I really like aviation.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I think that would be that be something really cool
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: to get into passions. If planes have always been your
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: passion since you were a little kid, why are you waiting?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Why have you waited till now to get your polot license.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: I haven't had any time, honestly interesting, but like the
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: last off seasons, Like my first off season, I did
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: a externship of fanatics, just like learning, like how they
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: grew their company from a business standpoint, we're in business.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Second off season I was with NASA. Third off season
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: I was with NASA. Fourth off season was COVID, so
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: nothing was going on. I was with I just stuff
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: at NASA. So I just like haven't really like had
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: the time or just been in the I guess the
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: physical place to be able to do it. So this
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: off season really like where I got the point. So
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: I got released from Cleveland end up going to practice
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: squad as we all know, and so I was sitting there,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: I was like, yes, I'm like I have to learn
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: a playbook and everything, but I also I want to
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: be really productive with my time. I was like, it'll
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: be something like cool to like set myself up for
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: the off season. So I started taking the pilot's class.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna get my pilot's license. So
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: I started taking the class and stuff. So I was
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: doing that like in my free time. And then obviously
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: since I got here, I haven't looked at it once
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: because I had to you know, play but yeah, so
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: I kind of like saw that.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want to do that this
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: off season, so I'm gonna do it.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: There you go, and that fires me up.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: Do you know what?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Plenty want to fly?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna do it with serious over in Knoxville. Yeah,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: they make a lot of single engine jets and planes,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: so I want to fly in one of their jets.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: So I'll probably training your planet.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: You want to train in a jet.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: No, excuse me, one of their planes. I'm not gonna
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: get like a jet license.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: That takes like a lot of that's a lot of hours,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: the fourth license down.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: I do like the forty hour one w's like twenty
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: twenty one days, like hard training and be awesome.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: You can just go fly wherever. It'd be awesome. Are
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: your instrument as well?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: Uh? Probably, yeah, in time, if I have enough time
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: to do it.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: But man, that is sick because serious is like the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: new coming of age single prop planes. Yeah, they have
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: the thing called SR twenty two little doors that kind
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: of come up. They're like all carbon fiber, like the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Lamborghini like butterfly doors.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sick.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: They're awesome custom make if you want to get one,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: they're on back order. I can't really fully afford, like
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: I act my own one, but if you when you
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: when I can, like you can get one like super
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: decked out customize.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they're dope.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: A second picture on the right, that's their their serious
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: business jet. That one yeah, and that thing legit. You
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: will sit in it and it's like an extended sitting
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: in an extended suburban suv.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super comfortable.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: There was a single single engine, so the engine problems,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: they have a parachute at the ploys that for like
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: as its safety feature. Yeah, and it's actually they've actually
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: had to do it like a couple of times, and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: they say, like every time we do it, it's really
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: cool because it just reconfirms that even though it's a
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: single engine jet, like, we still have redundancies to make
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: sure everyone's safe.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if like the pilot gets incapacitated, there's a
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: button on top of the roof. You just press that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: button and the computer will locate the nearest airport and
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: land for you.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: No, you don't touch nothing, esus.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: So you like you enjoy like flying around more than
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: you do like being in.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Space, Well, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been to space.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Do you aspire to go to space?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: That that was a great comeback said it.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, he has no we have
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: to we have to be okay.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: With the fact that we know we're sitting with a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: man that's much smarter than us. Sure, I hope to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: gain whatever knowledge he has to give us, what a
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: droplets of information we can take.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: We got to soak that in but.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: Laughing at me for dumb questions.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm telling you it's okay.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: So I want to go to space, I would say,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: like I've like thought about it. So every time I
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: go to NASA, the first thing they asked me is like,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: but when you're gonna start astronaut training? I'm like, dang,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: you guys are like really serious about this, Like they
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: have me do a whole promo for them for getting
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: people to sign up to be the astronauts and everything,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: like they're really Like the Bob Cabana, he's the head
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: of Kennedy Space. Every time I see him, he's like,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: you know, when are you? When are you gonna come
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: work for me and go to space? Like, damn, man,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: you're really serious about this thing. So I think I
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: think in time, like I probably would. I think that'll
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: be really cool. Yeah, I'm in no rush to do it,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: like at this point, but with all the stuff going
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: like so much commercial space opportunities are out there, so
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: I think I think it's something I would do down
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: the road.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: Would you want an internship with space X?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Internship with SpaceX?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: See, I would want to go see what they do
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: because like just so I've so they have a big
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: site down NASA and Florida, and they say, like just
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: talking with the NASA people, like those SpaceX engineers work
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: around the clock. So I went over there, and so
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: they have won the launch pads. They have two launch
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: paths down there. So when they saw their launch paths,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: and they have their landing zone where they land their
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: rockets like at the space station after they detach, and
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: so just like I've been around them, like I've seen
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: their operation. Those people work like around the clock. I guess,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: like what they what they've done for the space industry,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: They've they've changed the game just because of how often,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: like how much they work, like how many strides they
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: take forward and shorts amount of time, how many rockets
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: they launch. When they launch a rocket like every week
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: and then they land it and reuse it and they
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: launch it again.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: It's think, is the answer. But I think I think
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: for Twitter, for Twitter, I don't only get I don't
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: get kicked off Twitter.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: That's hot. But I just wanted to ask that question
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: so that way we had it for whatever clip we
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: want to make in.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: Case I think exactly, I mean, he's changing the game, Like, yeah,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, do you think he could easily become a villain?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: Do I think he could become I mean, I think
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: he has the power to. I don't think he would
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: because everything, everything that he's done, literally has helped civilization
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: like work smoother, Like that's how it starts. Start starlink,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: they're watching Wi Fi for literally anywhere anywhere in the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: world you can have Wi Fi Tesla. We know what
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: Tesla's doing with electric cars, you know, And he's like,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: all the strides that NASA will make to go to
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: the Moon, go to Mars happen because they have companies
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: like SpaceX pushing the envelope.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: On everything that they're doing. So that's a rocket science answer,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: that's right.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: So obviously I don't think you're going to have the answer,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: And if you do, I can't wait. What is the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: future for space travel for the normal, for like the
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: general population.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: So phenomenal, that's a great question for president one day.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, like in the next the next
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: twenty years, people will be like going to the Moon.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: I won't won't be it won't be an odd occurrence
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: that normal civil its normal civilians. They want to go
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: to the Moon. They'll have the ability to do it.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: I think, like there will be people on Mars too soon.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know, like how soon.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: People like what farming like, are they like you want
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: to go on Mars?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: I mean they're training astronauts to go to Mars actively
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: and live there. Yeah, dude, I mean so the NASA,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: So I worked on the NASA Artemist project that was
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: to go back to the Moon. So the rocket that
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: I was like working around launched the beginning of December
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: or end of November I believe, and so that was
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: I was unmanned, went to the Moon. It's like a
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: twenty day mission. The circles around the Moon came back,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: but it is for the next launch in a couple
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: years where they're going and rebuild the rocket is going
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: to take people to the Moon and then like the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: fourth iteration of that rocket is to go to Mars
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: and then to take people to Mars.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: So it's close, it's very close.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: NASA works slower because there's a lot of red tape,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of political things around it. I mean
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: the president changes every four or eight years, and that
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: really changes, like NASA and like how fast that they
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: can work and move forward. But because the commercial companies
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: want to do it, the government will want to do it,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: and like so it's going to happen soon. And because
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: also like people are interested in it, people are interested
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: in space. People want to go to space. It's that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: cool now like it was in the sixties. So that'll
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: be assuming people will be going to the Moon and
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: then shoot Mars as well.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: Is Josh EU's the smartest guest we've ever had on
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: the podcast.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, yeah, him, And I
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: think number two would probably be like Burt Kreischer.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: It's a big drop off. It's it's a big.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Drop births of phenomenal. He's a very smart individual, but
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: he ain't no rockets.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: Some of those things where Josh're talking, You're just like,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, like.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm legit, like learning. I feel like I'm like, yeah,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, appreciate that. Imagine being the first, like
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the first group of guys and gals that are like,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: all right, you guys want to go to the moon,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: and it's like fu, yeah, let's go, and then like
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: a week out that's in like.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: We're the first ones to do this.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: Like for vacation too.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: You remember vacation, like how we're going to Cabo, Like
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: it's hey, I'm getting this tickets, Let's go to the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: moon for five nights.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah I heard.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: It's great this time of year. Let's go check it out.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah dude, Uh what was that?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Was that in the nineties when like they sent like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: teachers up to space and that that blew up?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't it was the Challenger. I want him
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: to quote it. Challenger. Yeah.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: So they have had your school bus gone wrong?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: So yo, dude, So NASA has a statement your school bus.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, I got the joe.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tough joke.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: They have a room in the v A B down
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: there where's dedicated to to the crash, and they make
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: all the commercial companies, like all the engineers that come
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: through NASA. You have to go in the room and
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: you literally see the wreckage. You see parts of the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: shuttle that they went and found and put in the room,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: all the records and stuff. Just as a reminder that,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: like every day that you're working, it might be monotonous,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: it might be shoul's been ten years since they've launched
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: a rocket, but you put people on the rocket, you know,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: there's actually souls going to space and your work. You know,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: even though you're looking at the math and it's important,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: it's even more important with the life factor.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: It's like you going there, you know, you're like, oh,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: a NASA is cool, and then you walk in there
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: just puts it all into perspective.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Fuck man, crazy too good for this bus? Hey, before
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: before we go do tear talk. While you were talking,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: I forgot about some part of our conversation. Okay, okay, okay,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: hurry up and pee. Though you said that you and
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: I have had a couple of run ins before when
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: we ran into each other before, I was just talking
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: about the complex, Okay. I don't know if there was
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: like a drunken, stupidly night. I was I got Losers
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: or something, and you're like, yeah, you were at.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: What's that I saw? Bender in Arizona was crazy?
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: Ye?
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: A riot house in Arizona, dude, or the super Bowl.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: That literally was the spot to always old town. I
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: can't stay in old town.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: Like that though.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: Old Town was fun for like a couple of days.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: And then you're like, I'm good, I know, but I.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Just see where I grew up in Arizona.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I gre up in Cave Creek, and my mom would
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: always have like this personal vendetta against everybody that lives
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: in Scotsdale. We get down there and you see the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: street signs start to change. You of these rich fucks
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: like they're a bunchet like you would like implement like money.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Money's yeah, Money's the enemy in my mind. So I
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: get down to Scotstone like all these fake people out here.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: I still like at thirty one, I had that scene
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: like programming in my head. I gotta get over that.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta move on from that.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, old Town is every girl from my not
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: every girl, but most of the girls from my high school,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Like they go to college and then they get jobs
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: at like Bottle Blonde and stuff like that. So look
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: key when you go back to when you go back
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: to visit, you're like you kind of feel like the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: man because you know a whole bunch of people.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: You're like, you can go and now go. What's crazy
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: to me is.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Like when I was at that age, I'd be like, yeah,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: this is sick. And then you'd see like some thirty
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: year old guy and you're like, what are you doing?
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Now I'd like think to myself, if I go to
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: old Town, I'm like, I'm fucking that thirty year old guy.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah I missed an old fuck Now, No, you can
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: go screw it man. Yeah, I guess may probably not
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: all right. Tier talk.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: So the way tier Talk's going to work is we're
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: basically tier like the way we UH talk about our audience.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: We have Tier one fans like they would drink the
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: kool aid. They're in the cult, they're about the business.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: Here two is like just under Tier one. Obviously they're
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: like they watched, they listen, but they're not like extremely
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: diehard fans. And there's a tier Tier three who are
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: like basic viewers. So in Tier talk, we have our category,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: which today is jack planets, best planets, best planets, a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: lot of things. I might we might have a God
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: tier on our hands. To you boys, we might have
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: a God tier. So the whole idea behind that is
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: finding you're gonna go three to one. You can have
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: an honorable mention in there if you want, and then
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: it's going to be uh your third favorite, second favorite,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: and first favorite planets planets after you finish. And there's
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of gentlemen on this bus today. I hope
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: the camera can get the camera of everybody on the bus.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Plus everybody will go around with their microphone and give
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: one word to describe how they felt about your tier talk. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of pressure here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the only one doing it.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're all going to do it, you, Me and Will.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good deal. It's just best okay,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: best planets. I know it's a weird. That's why I
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: said like it's very elementary.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, uh, I kind of know.
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  Speaker 1: I know what my honorable mention is for sure, and
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I know my tier one is.
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  Speaker 3: Would you.
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  Speaker 1: I think we might have got here God teers is
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: like you, Me and Will just like say, like our
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: favorite planet is this? It becomes God's here. Now You're
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: tier two? Is now your tier one?
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  Speaker 3: Tier three? Blah blah blah. Do you have to find
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: a new Tier three? Go aways? Start us off.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: I gotta start herself with the tier talk. Yeah, planets.
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  Speaker 2: I can't prepared my tier three no honorable mentions. God
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  Speaker 2: knows it won't make the graphic. Although it is a
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: new year, new US, New year, new US, your new US.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you put the honorable mentions in the graphic.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, honorable mention. No, I know we're listening.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be met with that kind of defense.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: We're doing the thing right now. We're trying to do
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: a bit. Just honorable mention. Shout out to Pluto. I
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: would love to shout out Pluto. I feel like it's
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: somebody you kind of want to get to know planet right,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: they got exiled, they kind of get kicked out of
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: the classroom. You kind of want to know a little
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: bit about their story. Maybe they got something going on.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give an honorable mention shout out.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: To Pluto's mind.
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  Speaker 4: You maybe go first. You may be go.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: Know, I don't think you think of it. I don't
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: think you think of it.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: My Tier three is going to go to Planet l
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: V twelve oh one. You guys might be wondering what
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: that's from. It's it's home to one of the best
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: crossover series that have been made, Alien Versus Predator.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: It's a breeding ground.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: It's a planet where it's infested with aliens and predators
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: come every now and in the hunt big game, and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: they call that that's that's their sport.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: So my Tier three is gonna go to planet LV
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: twelve zero one.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: My tier two.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: The year of getting Jack twenty twenty three my shot.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: My tier two goes to Planet Fitness. So by making
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: gains and twenty twenty three boys and getting Jack and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: getting sculpted is one of them. My tier two is
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: Planet Fitness, my tier one, and my tier one is
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: true and dear to my heart, it's a shout out,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a tip of the cap to a
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Star Wars daggleba dagoba is a dagglebar dogleg goo bah,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: there we go. Obviously it's true and dear to my heart.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: I can't always pronounce the words correctly. I'm not on
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: that alpha brain black label right now. But that's where
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: Yoda was lived in exile after the third Star Wars
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: in the series, in the Swampy Forest, in the Swampy Forest,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: and brought the hope, the Jedi hope back by training
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker and teaching him the ways of the Force.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of law of attraction, biblical foundational teaching and
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: philosophies come out of that movie.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: And it started on Uh. That's my tier one that
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: rounds on my list of favorite planets. That was pretty good.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: You're kind of thinking about the planets.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: My list is a little different, all right. One word bloss.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 9: The elite, Thank you bloss nice, fictional, right, hilarious, I
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 9: love it.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: Wrong, he gets it, he knows that he understands. What's
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: your word to describe my tier?
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: Talk? Solid?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Just okay, it's the first word date in my head, imaginative,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: thank you?
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: Good word?
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: Do I get ask Thomas why he's a fucking hater? Yeah?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah asco Now you can describe it?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Day?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: Describe it?
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: Ba?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I just I wasn't thinking in the confine.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 10: I was thinking in the confines of our eight planets
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 10: in reality, you know, not necessarily businesses or fake planets.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I guess it's not no hate Big
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Star Wars guys.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Thomas has really just falling into a lack
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: of imagination.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: You forgot the child and you Yeah, I will.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 10: I'm a total serious guy. There's nothing in me that
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 10: your beanie says it all. Yeah, my yellow and orange together.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, small town thinking. You're only thinking in.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in the box.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we figured out this is a U problem,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: not a Will problem.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: That's that's in the box.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but out of the galaxy.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Brother, it's man, thanks wrong, Dobby, you want to go?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: You want me to go? Or should you? Sure? Do
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: you want Taylor to go?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: I'll go because I don't. I don't want to go.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: Last because I don't think mine's gonna be that great. Well,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: that kind of attitude, I won't.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: All right, I'll go.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: The first off, I want to give a shout out
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: to Will Compton. I think he did a nominal job there.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: I am going to give an honorable mention. My honorable
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: mention will be the same as Wills. It's going to
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: go to Pluto. When I was in third grade, that
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: motherfucker was a planet. Now all of a sudden, you're
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: trying to tell me it's not a planet. Take out
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: my fucking school, and then I had, fuck you school.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: That is a planet. And I think it was done wrong.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: I think it was very disrespectful what they did to Pluto.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: And I think Pluto needs its day. Pluto needs to
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: be talked about more fucking free Pluto, dude, Because this
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: is out in the conference. When I was googling shit,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: it literally had the eight planets, and they made the
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: planets big enough to where they had the stuff out
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Pluto's little lass. Like, put Pluto back in the fucking
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: image and just put Pluto, dude, and just go from there.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: I don't want to cut you off, but Pluto hasn't
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: gone one lap around the Earth in your life. I
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: mean one lap around the Sun in Earth?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? I mean it's like, it's not
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: a planet. No, no, no, it's hollow.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: He's followers by its own drums.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: It's not You'll just want to go in circles all day.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: I'm out here doing shit. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: Let me be the longest time to get around. And
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: you see how follow mo fucker's out there. You didn't
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: even see it.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: We barely see Jupiter sometimes, that bay ass piece of shit.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: My Tier two, it's gonna go to Neptune, that big
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: blue sorry, my tier three, not my tier two. My
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Tier three is gonna go to Neptune. That planet is
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: overshadowed by Jupiter, that big ass ball of whatever with
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: that little fucking is that Jupiter with all the gas.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: It's really big and has that cool hole. Yeah, all right, Neptune.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: The red Neptune low key.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: The only reason why it's in my tier talk is
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: anytime I saw a picture, I thought to myself, that's
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: a cute ass planet.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: That thing's blue, It's beautiful, and I love it.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: I like Neptune, dude, I like Neptune a lottune.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: My Tier two is Youranus, and you can probably pick
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: together why I thought Tier two should be Uranus, dude,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: because I think it's somewhere we all want to be.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: We all want to be in Uranus. Will you like fingering? Dude?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Dude?
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You do something twice, dude,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: and all of.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: A sudden you're a bad guy.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: Mean dude, what do you mean?
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a bad dude, dude.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Because I like whatever. I fuck with your anis, Dude,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I messed with your anis and my Tier one salute
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: to the earth, dude. You got water, you got gravel,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: you got that good ass oxygen. People can breathe wherever
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: they want around there. People are bitching about the trees
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff too.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: They were the only place that you can just get
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: out and go and be all right without a doubt,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: without a dumb ass mask on. You be grateful. Yeah,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: we could probably save more trees. Plant a couple, dude.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: We should do that this year for twenty twenty three.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Not only get Jack, but planet a couple of trees.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Help out this beautiful Earth. That is my tiar Talk
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: the Earth get jacked, Help the Earth get Jack, dude,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: helpe the Earth get Jack.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: I will before you guys, do your one word. I
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: didn't like that.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: I was interrupted multiple times. All right, do it if
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: you need to put that into one year one word,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: that's fine. But just know that pissed me off a
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: little bit. Dude, that's fair.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: That is Yeah. I apologize too, Thank you. My question
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: was going to be like, why were you so angry
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: persenting the whole time?
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: I was passionate, No, ugly ass, you're mad. I got
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: mad about Pluto because I remember being that. I remember
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: being in third grade being like, that's a cute ass
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: little dot like hanging out, and then all of a
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: sudden it was just gone. And there's really no explanation there,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: just like, no, it's a star or what is it
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: a star?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: The thing is a satellite? Considered a satellite? Now either
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: is her WiFi? Now? Is it is it a satellite.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: Neptune.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Neptune. Neptune. Nepto is massive, massive. Just too small,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: that's it. Yeah, it's just too small.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: He got the little guy. That's crazy, dude. You know,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: rules at me. I'm just reporting the news.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Darren Sproles was too small.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: Look at him.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Proven the hater is wrong. My boy Deuce out in
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Kansas State. They said he was too small. Blake krn
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: was too small. We'll see, we'll see. Just can't be
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: football players.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: Because they're small. It'll be back, It'll be better, be
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: a difference.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I apologize for my anger coming out, but Pluto
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: did rough me up a little bit.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: Boyce.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: One word passionate, thank you, vulgar.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 11: Intergalactic mm hmmm, intense, grateful, thank you, cosmic, invigorating.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: Passion.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: I'll think all that. I'll think all.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: Yours is very truthful. I'm like Will's his His was
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: a little fantasy, you know.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved I'm coming from the heart.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Also, before you go, Mitch, I feel like you just
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: find out a word in your head and regardless of
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: what anyone says, like you this, that's what you do
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: in intergalactic It was a cool word and I enjoyed that,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: but I also thought to myself, that's not genuine. That's
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: just something he thought to himself as he was talking.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: And he's like, Oh, it's a cool big word. I'm
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: gonna say.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: And you got what you wanted? Did you really?
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: Buzz Lighter said this in toy story. I'm gonna use that.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: Hi, Josh, you're up, dude, I'm up? All right?
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: My honorable mention to start because everyone pronounces it wrong.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: It's Uranus, not youur Inus only for its pronunciation issues,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: all right? Tier three. Tier three will start with Venus
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: is Earth's evil twin. I just think it's sick, like
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: if you just look at the science behind it. They
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: have like crazy hailstorms. It's just an intense planet. My
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: Tier two is Mars because it's the future of human civilization,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: is where we're going next. And my Tier one is Earth,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: just like Taylor, thankful to be here?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Why do is Earth? Why is Earth and Venus? Why
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: are they considered twins? Because we live on Venus.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: They're the same size, same mass, but like everything Earth
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: has like oxygen and nitrogen, like Venus has the exact opposite.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: So no, we can't live What's the opposite of for
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: those people that don't know, I think it's it's.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: Like very high.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 5: I think like carbon die. I don't know all the science,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: but I did it. I learned it one time. I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: was like, oh, that sounds pretty cool.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you asked the question,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm sure people out there like like
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: we're all in class right now.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: A question? Yeah, Hey, well you just cost you cost
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: all over me like spin in my arm.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I don't think. I don't think all right anything?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: All right? One word bloss knowledge mm hmm, stellar, here
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: we go, straightforward words. That's a hyphenphenated words here educated.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: You better not say it again.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: Smart hat.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks malone hyphen milky way Mmm yeah, we'll put
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: an I there informative.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you. That was good, dude, that was good.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Should be included them on the shoutout no free shoutout
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: if we want to you are you familiar with shoutout
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: no free shutout?
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: So?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: You've never watched an episode?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: I've watched it. I haven't watched a full episode. You
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: just watched the clips?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 7: Ye? Fair?
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: Tier three of you. We have a lot.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: We have a big Tier three fan base.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so shout out no free shadows our favorite segment
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: of the week. The way we phrase shout out, no
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: free shadow is on this podcast. We're not gonna shout
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: you off. We're not gonna shout you out. You got
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: to you gotta pay to play in this game. This
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: is our opportunity to dish out a couple of shout
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: outs to those small little things in life that maybe
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: are overlooked or underappreciated. So we will all go first,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: and then you may have the floor if you would
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: like to bloss.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: Just us.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: All right, you want to go first time, We go first,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: It happened this morning. My shout out, no free shout out.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: Goes to I forget how man you want me to?
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: My shout out, no free shout out goes to when
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: you're at the cash register and you're speaking to somebody
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: and they look at you and they say, all right,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: that'll be however much money at twelve forty nine, And
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: you put your credit card in, and then they take
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: the little white thing and they spin it back to
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: them and they don't give themselves a tip because they
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: realize they turn it too fast, and they press, no tip.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: They were the bad guy for themselves. They took that
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: extra initiative. Yeah, and so you kind of walk away
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: being like, damn, they actually deserve a tip now for
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: not taking a tip for themselves. But the integrity of
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: that individual. Wow, that's incredible. The good shout out, thank
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: you much about that.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: On the SPUs.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: My shout out no.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: Free shoutout goes to love at first taste, when you
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: get that when you take it, whether it's a swig,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: have that first bite and you get that electric shock
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: down both your jaws that you just tasted something nice.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: It goes out to that little subtle difference that makes
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: in your day, cause when you taste something this But
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: it was after a hard workout. I took a U
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: I took a drink of that drink you put me on, yeah, Celsius, Celsius,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: so Celsius drinks. I took the little peach flavored and
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: it rocked my job dude, And I was like, dude,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: I'm in heaven. Yeah, I'm glad to be out of
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: this workout sipping some liquid with the boys. So my
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: shout out, my shout out no free shoutout goes to
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: love at first taste.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good one dude there at the end.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: But I was tripping a little bit, but I caught myself.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: All right, Josh, you want to give one, I'll give one.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: I'll give one.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: My shout out, no free shadows, I say, all right,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: my shoutout, no free shoutout goes to sleeping your own bed.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: You know, when you when you're traveling on the road,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: you haven't been home for a long time, just the
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: first time you're able to look at your bed, jumping
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: in and sleeping. It just that sensation of being home.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good, good shoutout because them covers will
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: touch you nice. Bro. The next way, Yeah, then you're
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: rocked up. Next second, you don't know what to do.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: You're like, am I going to go to bed?
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: Now? Am I going to finish this boy off?
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's what you.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: Start like, straightening your legs?
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: Is stiffening your legs?
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, what are we doing?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: And he kind of comes out the seat you Yeah, dude,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: nothing like jerking off in your own bed.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: Shout out. That was Josh Jobs is jerking off in
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: your own bed, Josh Jobs. Much there is a nice
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: little deal when you get in like a from the opposite,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: like you get in a hotel room, you locked that
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: door and the night is over.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: Take that generic ass, little watery ass lotion. You're like
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: you're about to have Hell. You look at your little
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: buddy and you go, you know what's up?
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I'm lazy though I don't think. Uh, I
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: don't think lotion. Like I want my hands to kind
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: of stay dry, so I just get that rag.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I'm rag. I'm straight.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that little that little water lotion
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: needs the Yeah, hotel.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: Room, you gotta get up and wash your hands after, Nah,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: I don't you just wipe it with the.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: Same Yeah, I kind of get right, you know, when
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: you have the ragged you have like that hard stream
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: week after like you got to like like you're taking
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: off a layer of skin with that rag and the
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: next day you wake up and you're like the scent
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: is still there.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: Which is nice.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: It's all right, Like something the best said you can
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: probably get is like eucalyptus or lavender, but usually it's
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: that plain Jane, like you know there's lotion there. But
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, are people going to realize
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: this los is only on one hand.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: And I got after it last week with some conditioner.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: Oh matter of fact, those dukes, Duke Cannon is their conditioner. Yeah,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: Duke Cannon conditioner had this nice minty smell.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: That can hurt. Though it can hurt, but it felt nice.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 4: I had the cooling sensation afterwards a little bit.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: I was a little frightened because of my story, right,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't like that.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: It was nice.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you do you remember the first time you
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: masturbate him? Do you remember the first time you did?
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: Do you?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it before on the pot like pod. Yeah, Like,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you. It's your own story to tell if
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: you want to tell it. Yeah, I'll tell you my
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: I remember my first time. I remember like it was yesterday.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: I don't really want to know your first time he
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: was around the line. I appreciate your openness though, I do.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 5: I really do appreciate it.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: You know LimeWire was involved. Are you sure? Are you
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: sure you don't want to we talked about on the pod. Yeah,
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: I'll go Adam twenty two so you don't.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: I won't assume you don't want to talk about your
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: first time masturbating.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 5: On I'll probably pass. It's maybe maybe my second time.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: It's probably smart just because you got like Nass and
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: some big ship in your future.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's watching this podcast right now. Yeah, mush, he masturbated.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: Never mind, but some.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: Homies and NAST and it's like, oh, they're on, they're
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: on this podcast. I want to watch Josh Thopps. Yeah, look,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: getting guys, you know, some some new viewership.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be cool.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: It's cool. It's gonna be more of the University of Tennessee.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: It feels seems like you're like I loved there's Peyton
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: Manning and there's probably Josh Opps.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, what about what about the last of the game?
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: He saw he saw it at the game. I saw, Yeah,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: I saw.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying that, Yeah.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 5: The game that the games are hilarious, just like the
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 5: like I mean, just like going upstairs and just like
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 5: the whole process of it.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: They're all about. They're all about Josh stops.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's an incredible feeling.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: You do you feel that the rest of your life
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: live you should go at least once a year of
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life just to get that ego boost, just.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: Just like if I'm feeling down on myself, I just
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: should go to No, oh it's fall not for long, No,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 3: it was not.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: I got to meet him. I had the privilege of
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 4: meeting him in right in front of the elevator.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: I remember it clearly, and I was thinking, don't overplay
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: your hand, Will and you should come on the bus
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: one day.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: Do you say you should come on the bus. There's
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: always trying to get people on the bus like that.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: I'm always at the recruiting always ABC, always be closing.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. My sales tactic, We'll
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 3: got some strings. Though, he was in the Chancellor's box,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 3: he was up there. I saw you. You really like that?
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 4: He said, you really like that?
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: You really And I knew there was underground because of
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: Jack too. Like Jack goes like he leaves but the bus. Yeah,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: he leaves us for like a.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 4: Week a week every year ago film for his camp.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, damn that's cool. But anything else? What do you y'all?
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: Play golf? I like to try.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 4: I like to smoke cigars and play music and have
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: a good time.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just open bar at the golf course basically,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 5: so you guys gotta come play playing the golf tournament
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: You have golf tournament.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in Knoxville, that's what you're saying. Chase Rice, Chase
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: Rice Horney, Chase Rice came. He played at it. Last
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: year was the first year. Chase. Yeah, you'll gotta pull up.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: This year's fine. Where is it?
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 5: It's that Tennessee National just right out of Naxtville, like
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 5: on the weekend of the Spring Game. So all the
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: all the vfls come back and playing it.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: What weekend is that?
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: It is?
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: The weeked it with April, third week in April. That's
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: a busy time for the boys and the bus.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: We're doing a little spring tour.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: Well, we could do knox Well, were we doing Knoxville again,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think we were. I don't know we could
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: make that.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: We don't want to give anybody out their hope that
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: we could be rolling through Knoxville again. We're trying to
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: put together a fun little spring tours.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're around just I don't really golf, but
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: I'll go yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I have Thomas doesn't
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: golf Bruise with the boys.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully Chase is there get them back. Yeah, point
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 3: won't play again. Chasing we ask all our questions. Is
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 3: there anything any questions from Jack Tennessee fan.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're mean anything that.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 3: A friend right right there, the.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 12: Most memorable moment as a as a volunteer, I wanted
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 12: him to walk through the most iconic play from his
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 12: career at Tennessee, which was the Georgia Hail Mary. Fans,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 12: it was it was like, not just to play it
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 12: so for the game, but we had a string of
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 12: weeks where we was at the first time, we beat Florida,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 12: the week before crazy game came back, went against Florida,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 12: and then the Hail Mary that Josh threw to Yeah
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 12: you want I don't know.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: I thought that was cool, but that's not really necessarily
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: a question.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: You did it.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: You just did it, not finished a question mark at the.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: End of that.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 12: How monumental was that for not only your college career
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 12: but confidence moving forward going into the NFL.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: Well, well that was a good weight to round that
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: all one. That was good. It was nice. That's the
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: best question today, snaps Jack. Yeah, no, it was live.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 5: So like so I grew up in Alfred of Georgia,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 5: so just sou south of Atlanta. I wasn't really recruited
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 5: by Georgia, but I never went to go to Georgia.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 5: But I just had beef because I never really liked Georgia.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 5: So like senior year on the road at Georgia, we're
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 5: like going back and forth the whole game. But then
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: they you're like, oh, I don't want to lose to Georgia.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 5: Like a beat them last year. We got to beat
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 5: them again, and they threw like a hell mary ish
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 5: play like right before it. So there was like fifteen
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: seconds left, they just bring their last time out. I
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: was really standing next to Malone. They're on like the
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 5: forty seven yard line, but they have to score a touchdown.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: Me and Malone are like, oh, yeah, we won. Like
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 5: we're like we're about to get on the about to
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 5: get on the plane, get back to Knoxville. It's live.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 5: We just won at Georgia. And then the next play
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: they throw a whole shot down down the sideline. Dude
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: catches it in a straight and we really look at
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 5: each other like no way. So they score.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 4: How much time left?
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: There's eleven seconds left on the clock.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 5: Oh shit, but listen to the dude, from their sideline,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 5: runs on the field, no helmet, fifteen yard penalty. And
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 5: he's actually he's from Nashville. That's what it was funny.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: He wanted to go to Tennessee. Think come uh. He
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 5: ran on the field, fifteen yard penalty. So backed him up.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 5: And so we had the best returner in the nation
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 5: that year, Evan Barry. So they had to kick it.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 5: They had to kick on the ball. They would just
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 5: kicked out the back the end zone. We'd be running
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 5: hooking ladder and just praying. They had to kick it
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: to him.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 3: He catches it. They try to like pooch kick it.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 3: He catches it.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: On the thirty he runs right, We're like, all right,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: keep going, keep going.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 5: He runs, he runs, He looks at the clock, runs
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 5: out of bounds at their forty six yard line with
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 5: four seconds stuft on the clock. And so before that
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: we're like, are we gonna do hooking ladder or we're
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 5: gonna throw hell Mary. So we get to that yard line,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 5: We're like, all right, we can throw hell Mary.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: So we get on the.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 5: Field, line up, call time out, come to the sideline,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 5: get back on the field, and then they rushed three
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: and I was like, make sure you don't take a sack,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 5: make sure you don't roll.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: It out of the back of the end zone. Yeah, yeah, Pepper,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 3: this checkdown four seconds. He was waiting for that.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 9: The whole story.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: The whole story.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 4: I thought of it.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: Once you said don't take a sack. I'm like, oh,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: he's going and then you can smile. I'm thinking like,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: oh ship, yeah, we'll get him.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: I'm get him. Yeah, that was a good one.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 5: Rub it in my face, kicking, walk down, check down, no,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 5: through it, through it to Juwana.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 7: He he did the harp to a bomb and when
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 7: he caught it, so you're like, it's fucking up. You're
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 7: probably when he caught it, just the plays the play.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 5: So when he caught it, I remember seeing him like
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 5: catch it right here, and then it was like all
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: hell brokeless.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 3: God so cool.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: I was at Georgia, so that was what was so
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 5: cool about it because you could literally hear a pin
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 5: drop and then they pull all the Tennessee fans like
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 5: up in the rafters at the top of the stadium.
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: It's just like they're just going crazy.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 5: The band is like at the top of the stadium
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: to playing Rocky Top and then like sea of red silence.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: That's fucking cool.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 4: Tennessee does have one of the best fan bases.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: They really do.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 3: They roll so deep they do. What a bomb too?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: No, you know everybody in the defense, everybody fucking jumping
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: for the ball and ship they know that defensive coaches.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 12: I was trying to find the play that set it up,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 12: because literally Georgia threw like a forty yard bomb with
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 12: twelve seconds prior to this play too.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: We were up four points for them and they were
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: gonna win, and.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 12: They were they basically just beat us, and everyone's.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: Like, no fucking we're four and zero undefeated, and they
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: threw it, and uh, I forget who said it. Some
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: one goes and they about to party their butts off tonight.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 5: It was like electric in the stadium. It got rowdy,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 5: but then we were able to come back. And that coach, coach.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 3: Shones, where's he at now?
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 5: He's at Arkansas State. M Oh damn, that's tough. Yeah,
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 5: good dude, good dude, Yeah, really, good dude.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 3: You played with some good players there. Yeah. I feel
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: like Tomor is most underutilized college football player of all time. Yeah,
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: but like we had Jalen Heard too.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: Most underutilized college football player of all time. You see
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: what he's doing in the league.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: He's going crazy. Well you got that, we got Jalen
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: heard too.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: Jalen heard it was a thousand yard rusher as a
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 5: freshman and sophomore.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: And then Alvin got there too.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 5: So and then once Jalen got hurt, Alvin obviously started
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 5: going off. But like he was already going off. He
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 5: just like we would get the ball the Jalen a
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 5: little bit more than we gave it to Alvin. So,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, at hindsight, like, man, this dude's amazing.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 5: He's like one of the best running backs in the league.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 5: I wish we could have used them more in college.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 5: But like at the time, he thought we were utilizing
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 5: people the best we could.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 4: Now I'm thinking, I'm like, I don't want to keep
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: on here that much longer. But I am curious.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: There's a few there's a couple of players I'm thinking
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: of that you play with on the Steelers, the Pouncy
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: So I've heard nothing but like insane things about the
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: way he is as a leader. And also it seems
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: like you got to play with Antonio Brown. I would
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: love the Yeah, what'd you think of a b like
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: playing with them on the on the the black and
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: yellow sucking goal. I don't want to butcher Pittsburgh Nation, Yeah,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: black and yellow like yellow.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: I just got a text from Dennis Kelly. Todd Downing
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: and Keith Carter were fired.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: I even't seen anything, so that might be that.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: Might be.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: Breaking information, but that was from That was from Dennis Kelly.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, it feels from Dennis, and that means
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: it's probably out Carter, the old line coach.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Wow, the reaction, uh, my reaction.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: Keith Carter and Todd Downing just got fired real time.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: We just saw right now. What's your reaction to that.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can say that we got a video?
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my phone, my phone's out there.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: That's his name not and then Keith Carter and Todd Downing.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: Oh I re Fraser did? Rob Moore is still there.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think Rob is going anywhere either. What an
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: interesting I mean, first initial thought, I know you're literally
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: on the spot. I know I'm without any time to
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: register any of that information. I think Todd is an
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: incredibly good person. He's like awesome to be around, and
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: he's a great guy. You kind of could tell, Like
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: obviously the whole season everyone's calling for his head, like
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: that riding was on the wall. There was a moment
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: when I went out to a walk and I think
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: it was right before you got there. I was literally
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: in a poncho and Todd. Todd was like, oh, you
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: playing tight end. I was like, I'm gonna play tight
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: end next next year for you, and he goes, oh,
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: you go into and he recited some random high school
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: football team, like he I think Todd knew he was
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: going to be fired. I think so, I'm really I
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. Hart goes out to him, good family man,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: good dude. Obviously a bad situation. After the Packers game, Uh, Keith,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: he's been there. Keith's been there, Yeah for.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 3: Like five years.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 4: Five years.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: Keith and I have had a very up and down relationship,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: and I think it's ended at a much higher point.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: But damn, I think like when Keith first got there,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: he the way he came in and the way he
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: was trying to act towards everybody, like very disrespectful, very
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: very authoritative, but like in a very like dictatorship type
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: of way Keith grew every single year, and he he
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: did live on the old line with impossible standards. That
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: was kind of like one of those things you know,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: football is how it gets kind of toxic sometimes, like
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: it's never good enough. You think you do well, and
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: all of asen there's one or two plays you want
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: back and sometimes you just want to pat on the
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: back and you never truly get that. I think Keith's
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: a good I think Keith is a good offensive line
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: coach that was stricken by injuries. Me Ben Nate Brewer
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: was hurt this year, and Nick missed a couple of games.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: That's all five starting guys were hurt, So that's not
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily Keith Carter's fault. I think he'll be able to
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: get a job in the NFL again, But yeah, I
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: think yeah. I mean, I don't want to say like
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: anything disrespectful, right because I think he's a good dude
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: and I think like he his his nice friendship. Friendship
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: is a very loose term, but our business relationship got
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: a whole lot better from the first time he was
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: in to now. I just wish he he focused a
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: little bit more on taking care of the older players.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: I think Ben got a little more of that towards
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: the end, and then I kind of did this year.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: But this is those practices are hard. We're on your
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: body and there where your tires are really fast, and
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: you could see it towards the end of the season sometimes.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: But I think I think Keith's gonna get another job.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: I think he did.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: He does a great job. I don't know coach Midgett
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: at all. I passed him. The hallway knocks every once
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: in a while, and that's kind of what it is.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: I hope it works out for him. But damn, that's crazy.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happening.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: Black Monday, Black Monday. Yeah, I didn't think.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd be fired till later. I didn't
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: think he. I didn't not think Keith was gonna get fired.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: Damn it. We sure it's Keith Carter. You see that
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: Blake Korn's coming back. Yeah, I did.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, I meant to put a tweet out there, like, Bro,
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: you've there's only so much shut on the tire in
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: the NFL. You gotta go leave this conference. Bigger things ahead, brother,
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: No need to come back to Michigan. Yes, Nebraska will
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: take care of.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 8: It for you.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: Three time Big Ten champions coming up Josh's final, Hang on.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: Don't don't even bring that out. He was talking about it.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: He was talking about it before. He was talking about
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: it before that news came out. He's talked about a
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: couple of his teammates from the Steelers talk.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, no, no, no, I just want to know about
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 12: Josh's last game.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: Is of all the Nebraska game. Yeah, well, twenty eight,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 3: I believe, just thirty. It wasn't that close. Close game wasn't.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 4: Score you said ten points and we were talking about
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 4: two possessions.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 5: And they scored like with like two minutes left in
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 5: the game. And then we took a knee move him
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 5: a lower doing handshakes in the locker room. What year
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 5: was that, twenty twenty sixteen?
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 4: Mike Riley is the head coach, right, it was Riley.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: I think that's part of the Mike Riley or like
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 4: that's it for the Hey, sick jack, you beat Mike Riley.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't beat anyone. We always have just the of
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: a clearly healthy rivalries in college football.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: We have the most historic ripa leay in college football?
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: Have you read the Busting Trophy? The bust and Bowl.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 4: Did you see that?
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 3: No? What's that?
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 4: So you didn't see it?
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, I thought you watched, so you don't follow
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: at all?
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an honorable mention washer dude.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: Every year Michigan Nebraska they play for the bust and Bowl.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: There's a trophy made.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting in Michigan's trophy room right now along with
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: Paul Bunny and along with the Brown.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 5: Jug For those of you want to when do you'all
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 5: start doing beating trophy championship year?
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: This was the first year.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 4: First year.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we kind of just brushed over those guys
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: getting fired. Well, like what you know, we ya, what
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: do you really say?
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel bad. I feel like
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: everyone was just waiting for that one. Yeah. I think
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 3: it was coming to day.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of what kind of like
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: what kind of homage are we wanting to? We want
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: to spend time on it? Like are you know somebody
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: question after you? No?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 3: No, no no.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: I just kind of spoke and I didn't want to
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: be like disrespectful. And now I'm I kind of re
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: thinking about what I said. I'm like, yeah, it was
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: it was disrespectful.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: But I was also like, you also got to cover
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: all basis.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: Those are human beings of families, and I want to
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: make sure that I'm not like being rude, right, But yeah, okay,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: so we can move on.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: We can absolutely move on from that. And you're go ahead.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: This is just such a good pop And I'm thinking
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 4: of the two hour mark right now. I don't know
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 4: how you're feeling about it.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm good, I'm straight.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 4: Because now there's a few questions I want to ask.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: I still want to talk to you about the teammates,
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: getting to play with Pounty and Antonio Brown, and I
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: also want to ask about your situation, like being in
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: the headspace where you're at being somebody that's been on
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: IR all year and you've talked openly about anticipating being
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: cut and everything else. Whether or not that happens, time
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: will tell, But like, where has your headspace ends since?
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: Because it's one thing knowing that, like, yo, this could
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: be my last year in Tennessee. I could probably get cut.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: Like we're in the season the minute the game ends
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: on Saturday. It's a different vibe because even I even
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: I don't even play, and I thought, I'm like Damn,
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: it's just over for the boys.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 4: Now it's off season mode.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 12: More real.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's it's yeah, I had to have
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 4: gotten more real.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: It's gotten way more real for me because it's like
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, like me saying I'm
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: gonna get cut is like my weird like a subconscious
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: like egotistical way of being, like I know I'm gonna
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: get got, and so I don't want people to think
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm just getting blindsided here, like I know, like
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall for me, So I keep
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: vocalizing it one because it's that's kind of how I
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: process things, but also like in a weird way, it's
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: like me getting ahead of it, you know. And once
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: that game ended, on that checkdown, I literally thought to myself, like, damn,
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: it really is over, Like this is probably the last
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: time I will ever be on you'll see the name
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: Taro Lawan on a Tendency Titan roster even even though
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: it was on IR this year. And so that like definitely,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: like Saturday, I told you, I like I saw a tailing,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: Like after the game, I was like, hey, we don't
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: talk about this now, but like I feel weird right now,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: I do feel I feel like, uh not like I
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: would say emotion. I think emotion is going to come
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: when that time happens. And I had a conversation with
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: Ryan Cowden today and I walked in his office.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 3: I love Ryan. I think Ryan's a great dude. I
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: have no idea how good of a GM he would be.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: John want him there.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's nothing he could have shown in these
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: last seven weeks being the gym. It's kind of like
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: you bring he brought you in, did a great job,
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's huge, But like, where are
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: they going? What's their process? I hope he does get
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: the job because the person he is and I know
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: he does things a little bit differently. But I walked
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: into his office and I was like, I know because
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: I've gained a relationship with him. I was like, I
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna cut me, And I know you're that's
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: going to happen. And just know when you make that
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: phone call and it's going to be difficult for you
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: to pick up that phone because of our relationship.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to take this personally.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: I understand the business and I'm not going to think
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: this is you cutting me I think this is the
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans cutting me, and we had we had a fantastic,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty minute long conversation about other things too,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: but it is just a it's just wild, Like I've
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: never like I've never been cut before and I've never
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: like had.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 3: To feel that.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: And I know, sitting in the team with Rabel, he
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: always talks about guys like, oh, so and so, how
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: many times have you been cutting? They're like, h seven,
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: and other guys are like ten or whatever, and then
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: they find they're home somewhere and then you're like, damn,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: this person's been cut that many times. They've traveled on
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: a suitcase, like you're saying, like you're a nomad, and
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: so now I'm thinking like damn, Like everyone gets got,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: and when you're in the position I am, you think
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get got. But here I am in
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: the in plain sight with the sights on me, knowing
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: that like it's it's probably ninety five percent going to happen,
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: and so it sucks, but it's also completely understandable and
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: well we talked about before.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 3: There's there's arguments.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: I could sit here and be like, oh okay, I
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: could be be back at the times because of these
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: things like these are the pros and but like if
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: I were to, like if I was a GM and
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at taaror Lawan, i would think upside is solid.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: The downside is two acls and three years, Like how
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: do you unless I were to come back and we
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: would renegotiat where I'm playing for way less money, Like
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: there's no way I'm on that roster again.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: So it's just different.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to think about being in that
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: building today was really weird being that team meeting for
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: the first time since week two?
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: Right? Is it just a weird feeling interesting too, because
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: you've been out of it since week two?
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: Right, And you can even feel yourself you said it earlier,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: like I've been more you lean into like becoming more
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: of a fan because you're just not in the daily
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: routine with the boys, so you feel separated. But the
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: minute that game ends, for whatever reason, it feels so
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: much more finite. Like right now with just in real time,
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: coaches are getting fired, Like it just sucks because you
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: build such like a pack mentality all year long about
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: the aspiracious the goals were going to achieve together, and
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: then the minute it ends, whether anybody likes it or not,
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: you have to come in the next morning with a
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: business hat on and start acting people.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: That's just like the nature of the business, which sucks,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: And you know, like all this transition happening that last
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: year and the culture and the team and the core
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: guys that they've had the last few years, whether or
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: not that all states intact, but either way, it's like, damn,
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a way different looking team. Say,
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: once you get removed from college for a few years
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: and you don't even know anybody in the locker room anymore.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: That's fourth yearer in the league. You're like, damn, I
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 3: don't know anybodymore.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: You're like, man, I don't even really have a pulse
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: well on this team anymore. And so it's like it
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: has to move on without you, which is like, yeah,
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: that's the nature of the game. But it's like acknowledging that,
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: like when that when that last play happened, It's like
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: we were sitting there talking about it in real time.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, man, it just sucks that the boys, like
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's gonna be that trash back day or by Scottish
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: Taylor's face a little bit. I'm like, man, if I'm
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: feeling stuff, I can only imagine, like I'm sure he's
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: feeling I'm sure he's feeling that shit too, whether or not.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 4: You've been on IR all year.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: So like, damn, this year, this page is actually gonna
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: have to actually turn now verst talking about it all
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: year long and anticipating it.
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks. It is fucking It's hard.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to think about because like, my
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: whole life has been playing football and lucky enough being
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: really good at playing football, and now I'm looking, I'm
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: thirty one.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: Obviously high school you dipped on your bat. The shitty
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: team went to the good team to get a championship
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: or team I respect, but uh, university is like, yeah,
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: you're a Michigan.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 4: For four years.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had, Yeah, you've had You've had the ability
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: to stay on one team for not yeah nine year,
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: nine years.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just crazy that it's like, oh, that's
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: it's done. And I remember like being a rookie or
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: like a second year or third year guy in the
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: NFL and watching these old guys and then talking about
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: how they like openly talking about how they're out of
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: the prime, and I'm like, damn, fuck those guys, Like
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: why are you talking like that? You don't even know,
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: Like that's never gonna come for me. You never think
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: like it's oh, now I'm thirty one, and it's like yeah,
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: Like if you looked at me on paper, like my
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: prime has passed me, I could sit here and pretend like, nah,
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm still him. I could still do this, but
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: like that part of it might be over and like
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: who knows. Like let's say I did want to go
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: play football again, I would have to sit there and
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, what are the logical expectations I need
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 1: to have on myself for this season? Not only that,
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: but what now I have to rego back into that
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: headspace that you and I talk about all the time,
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: where there is the I found so much success in
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: football because I railroad to people. I had like low
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: key and narcissistic mentality like I have to get to
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: where I need to go, and if anybody's in the
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: way of that, they're just getting pushed aside. Emotions, all
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: of them are getting pushed to the side, and I'm
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: going and now I get hurt. And the thing that
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: when I got hurt this year, I didn't hurt is
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: bad emotionally because last year off season twenty twenty one,
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: I literally did everything I could. I was working my diet,
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: My diet was on point, my conditioning was on point,
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: my strength, like everything was on point. Like I was
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: dialed the fuck in. You get hurt the second game
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: of the season. It literally is one of those things
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: where it's like I did everything I could during that journey,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: even though like the result is not what I wanted.
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: So I literally separated myself way easier than I thought
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: I would from feeling negative emotions while still working through them,
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: Like I started feeling like happier, Like I started realizing, oh,
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: I don't have to act like this. I started doing
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 1: like self work, being like how do I work on
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: me so I don't have to feel this resentment from
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: this person or that person because of how a railroad
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: in the past trying to get to the top of
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: wherever I was. And now it's like, Okay, if I
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: want to go play football again, the only thing I
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: know how to play football at a high level is
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: to go back into that mindset. But it's so difficult
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: to do once you realize what you've been doing to people.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's so much, it's so difficult.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: That's why people like it's hard for people to understand
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: what it takes to be a professional athlete, a professional
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: athlete alone, but an elite professional athlete, Like it's very
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: you have to be so selfish and it's fucking it's
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: hard so not to like, I have to go and
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: reevaluate that because we literally I've I was telling, well,
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: I think I think I'm done. I don't know if
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: I want to play anymore. The second that game ended,
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: the second they took a knee, I was like, maybe
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: I should do one more.
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe I can.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: And then you start playing that fucking same game you've
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: played in your head over and over again where it's
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: like you could come back and do X, Y and Z.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: What a comebackstory? And now you're rewriting that story in
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: your head that only you really know. Yeah, so I'm like, fuck,
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: it's been a weird couple of days for me. It's
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: been a very weird couple of days. Like something, I
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: gotta sit with him, figure out, get any words of
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: advice for the boy, didn't you get any advice from me?
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, should take it one day at a time,
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: Like that's the amazing. I feel like sometimes you get
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: caught up in like that cliche, like you know, take
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: it one day at a time, like one media at time.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's literally real. It's like how you
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 5: feel right now won't affect how you feel right now,
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: like the emotions of the situation that the season ending,
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 5: like there's just a ton of emotions just thrown right
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: at you.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: But things like just taking time to just like chill,
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: take it a day at a time.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 5: And then like personally, I know you're trying to figure
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 5: out like should am I gonna come back and play football?
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: Just play ball? It's like I feel like, you know
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of people ask.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 5: Me why when you just go like do engineering, you
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, like in six years, like you
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 5: didn't get your opportunity, you just go do engineering, And
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 5: like the biggest thing for me is like I played
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 5: football since I was five. I'm sure it's probably similar
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 5: story for you. And it's like the blessing that is
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 5: to be a professional athlete and then to be at
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 5: the top. It's like as long as at least for me,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 5: as long as like I can do it, and the
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 5: there's even an out of possibility that I can be
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 5: a professional athlete playing the game that I've loved since
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 5: I was five, I'll take it and run with it.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 5: So just like just putting that into perspective, like seeing
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 5: all the emotions thrown at you, taking a breath, taking
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 5: a day at a time, and then going from there
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 5: and then all right, I want to do this, and
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 5: then working hard every single day at it. It's kind
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 5: of that's my mindset, and I know that's as you said,
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 5: that's been your mindset. Just because you've recognized you're in
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 5: a different headspace doesn't mean you can't be that same
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 5: player in a different headspace, yeah.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 4: Or it also doesn't mean too like me.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: Like again, I'm not like trying to speak for you
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: or nothing like that, but I'm saying, even for me,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: if you decide, like one day you wake up and
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: just decide, like, man, I'm not I'm not as interested,
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: Like that's all obviously all right too for sure.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 13: Yeah, And if you're Yeah, because I've always it's always
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 13: a tough thing about getting out of it is there's
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 13: there's people like there were always uh, you know, like
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 13: family members or people in your close circle that you
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 13: know they think like you need to be putting more
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 13: focus in the football versus like you know, for me,
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 13: it's like doing more of this stuff like hey, why
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 13: aren't you trying to be in a training camp and
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 13: stuff like that, And.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: It's like being okay with like releasing yourself of those expectations,
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: you know, like.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 3: That's like the hardest part, like the outside expectation.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 2: Right, because you said that to you said too, in
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: the ending, your journey is obviously different, but the ending
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: is like, you know, you could still be the same
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: player in the same breath.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 4: But it's also good. It's also fine if you're like
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 4: not one.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 3: Though, if you just if you want.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, like you,
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 5: each of us, you know, we've earned I feel like
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 5: just the work we've put in, just in our craft,
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 5: whether it's on the field, just in life, like earn
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 5: the ability to be able to do whatever you want,
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 5: which is.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 3: Which is which is which is powerful?
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like the majority doesn't get to do that.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: So even understanding that perspective, the exactly we're in the
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: position to even get to choose what our path will be.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 3: Is awesful? Yeah, yeah, it is.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: Is fucking It's an interesting predicament to be in because
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know you guys, but I'm sure this conversation
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: happened in the locker room all the time where it's like,
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: how many years do you want to play in the NFL?
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: And my answer for that day, yeah, yeah, how long
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: you want to do that?
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: And like the majority of people will say ten yeah,
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: I never said ten hours, said this cliche line. I
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna play football till I win. And
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: it was not like win a super Bowl whatever, just
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: feel like whatever. Basically it was like fulfillment. Like if
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've won the game of football, where
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: like I've done what I needed to do in this
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: game to leave an impression that I'm proud of, then
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: And if I said about it, I'm like I've done that.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: I've I've I've conquered individual accolades to the highest degree.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: I've we talked about this on the POP. I guess
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: I was a part of team a team that was
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: awful two and fourteen, three and thirteen the next year
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: and was a massive part after seeing so much turnover
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, being a foundational piece and changing
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: a culture on a franchise like I take I take
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: so much Parde in that. And so now it's like,
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: what are my whys to go play football? Because if
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: it's if it's for money, I'm out, Like there's I
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: will not play football just to I've made it.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 3: I've made money. I am. I'm gonna be all right.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: But it's now it's like a long like obviously if
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play somewhere, I have to be I
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: have to make I have to make money that I'm worth.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: But there has to be another fighting urge, whether it's
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: I need another year, I like, I don't know.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know urge at the moment. Right now. I
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 3: do right now, I do a little bit. I have
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: a it's tough. I'm loyal to the soil.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: Like I I literally came back from my fifth year
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: at Michigan when I could have been a top ten
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: pick the year before, like an idiot, because I thought
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: we're gonna want to make them championship and I wanted
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: to bring greatness back to Michigan.
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: We were like we were in the.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Wowings Bowl my senior year. We lost in the
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: state like forty four to ten. No, you were fucking terrible.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: And if if I just sat there logically and looked
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: at the roster, I go, oh, we're not going to
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: be good next year.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 3: You should dip. But I'm just a loyal guy.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: So like the thought of me be in a in
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: a different uniform besides the Titans, like that does not
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: sit well with me, you know.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: But also.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: Like watching the demise of Taylor Lawan, I sit there
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, do you want to be a
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: guy on the Titans that just was good?
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: Or can I still be good? And so if I truly.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 14: Believe that my knees straight because nothing else in my
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 14: body hurts, my fingers fucked up, my thumbs fucked up,
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 14: but that they work. So if nothing else hurts, and
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 14: I know I can be a not maybe not as
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 14: good as I used to be, but still a very
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 14: above average football player, then I have something to give
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 14: to the Titans. Still, It's just about figuring out what
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 14: I truly want, because it'd be ridiculous.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 3: Is not sit here.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: I stay on this bus once a week with the boys,
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: and we travel all around the country and it's fucking awesome.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 1: This is so this is so much fun and it's
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 1: doing well. I know you don't watch, but you should.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: We gotta get numbers. I watchun Yeah, I appreciate that.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're three two or three cat, But it's cool, man.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: It's just about it's just about evaluating that stuff. Yea
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: evaluating and finding out. But they taking one day at
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 1: a time. I don't have to make the decision right now.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: I just to keep gathering information so I can make
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: the best decision for myself and my family.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're at.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you say the loyalty thing, but what about the
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: first your first high school team? What about those boys
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: Not Yeah, that was my first and I only want
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: a championship with that high school team. Sophomore year we
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: won state fifteen.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 4: And oh, so you do one the boys.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I my dad made me transfer, forced me kicking
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: and screaming to transfer.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 3: Transferring high school is kind of like the hardest thing
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, oh hard, dude.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: And my boys, I like, I literally have ro Minrole
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: six tattooed here and here for my boys, the Sexy
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: six or the Dirty half dozen.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 3: Want whichever one you want to choose.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: But like we were all a bunch of ugly focks too,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: like curly haired itit's and shit, like it was just funny.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 3: But they like I left.
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: And there was one guy, Nick Bennett, who like came
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: to the school my first day and like when I
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: noticed it with that lunch called me, was like, hey,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot. We had sub boy sandwich
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: is waiting for me and we went and sat in
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: the bleachers. But all the other boys basically like you're
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: a trader, Like fuck you. Now, obviously we've all had
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: those conversations. Were all good, but it was fucking tough
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: because it was something i't even we're on a good
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: place now, but we were legit, Like I legit was
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: forced to transfer. Now, it's the best decision ever happened.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: Like I played one year off the line and was
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: able to go to Michigan. So that well, it was
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: the best decision I ever made in my life. That
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't even I didn't even make it. So it was
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: a good deal. But loyal, you don't see any other buses.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: What I don't go in any other buses. I stay
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: on this bus.
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  Speaker 4: Loyals of the soil.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: Loyal to the soil. I think two thirty four is
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 1: a long time for a podcast.
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  Speaker 4: This, I do think it is. I'll ask my other
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 4: questions off the when we get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the boys back there, they're probably like, fuck man, No,
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: not you guys like you.
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the guest, our guest. Oh yeah, I'm
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 4: talking about our guests.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, we're straight. We were going to go watch the
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 5: national championship somewhere. What do you think he's gonna win
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 5: the National championship?
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs, horn Fox no time.
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  Speaker 4: I hope one time that comes out tomorrow.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: My fucking finger kind of cocked out for a second.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 3: We got that. I'm all for that. Yeah, fuck the bulldogs, dude. Hey.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think they win the Super Bowl? I
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 3: think I think either Chiefs. I don't think I think
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 3: the Bills are good.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 5: I don't like the offense is like, I don't think
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 5: they're asks just as the Chiefs are the Chiefs. Or
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 5: I think the Chiefs are gonna win it. Try and
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 5: thinking the NFC, who could give a run? Eagles Eagles? Yeah,
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 5: but I feel like I feel like the Chiefs versus
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 5: the Eagles in the in the chance in in the
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, like the Chiefs are gonna outscore them.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 4: I can't have the Chiefs win.
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we like the Chiefs.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I just I like to go from the hot
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 2: take of saying they won't even make the playoffs and
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: then watch.
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 3: Them win Super Bowl.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 3: Will can't take. I don't know if I can afford that's.
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: A big all right, boys, Well, wait listen, we appreciate
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