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- 0:04Speaker 1: It's topic times called eight hundred five five one five
- 0:08Speaker 1: one to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Morning everybody in cj Envy Charlamagne the Guide. We are
- 0:15Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club now if you just join us. We're
- 0:18Speaker 2: talking about an incident that we've seen happen at Costco.
- 0:21Speaker 2: I guess a lady was body shamed because of the
- 0:25Speaker 2: way that she looked in attire, and her coworkers might
- 0:28Speaker 2: not have looked the same way.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Right now, we're asking eight hundred five eight five one
- 0:33Speaker 3: oh five one.
- 0:33Speaker 2: We're just talking about our culture and the fact that
- 0:36Speaker 2: you know, usually our women are more thicker black women, is.
- 0:39Speaker 3: What you're saying.
- 0:40Speaker 4: So is this a regular thing women go through that
- 0:43Speaker 4: your body shape makes your tire look inappropriate? We got
- 0:46Speaker 4: aj and Tam Bam from the We Talked Back podcasting.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Hell, that's a question, Larry Lady.
- 0:52Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, We've been going through that whole lives for real,
- 0:55Speaker 5: in a real way. I think women of other ethnic
- 1:00Speaker 5: cities get away with a lot more. I think Black
- 1:03Speaker 5: women and girls are over sexualized from a very young age.
- 1:08Speaker 5: So it is a real thing, and a lot of
- 1:09Speaker 5: the disrespect come from other women now, So I deal
- 1:12Speaker 5: I dealt with that in a corporate setting. You know,
- 1:15Speaker 5: my clothes might look a little better on me, may
- 1:18Speaker 5: not be inappropriate. But and this was coming from other women,
- 1:22Speaker 5: though black women in particular, bigger black women.
- 1:25Speaker 4: In this morning, I saw the sanitation workers losing their mind.
- 1:28Speaker 4: They looking good girl early in the morning in New York.
- 1:31Speaker 4: But that's just jealousy though, right the other women, the
- 1:34Speaker 4: women they see you come into corporate workplace. You might
- 1:36Speaker 4: have on the same dress that they have, on the
- 1:39Speaker 4: same outfit that they have on, but because of your
- 1:41Speaker 4: body shape, they probably just feel jealous or intimidated.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
- 1:45Speaker 2: One of another producer of Iour said she used to
- 1:48Speaker 2: deal with that in school. So I guess it was
- 1:49Speaker 2: a uniform that she had to wear. And she said that,
- 1:52Speaker 2: you know, when she was younger, she was a lot
- 1:55Speaker 2: thinner up top and bigger on the bottom. And when
- 1:57Speaker 2: she wore the uniform that the other girls and have
- 2:00Speaker 2: a problem. But when teacher pulled it to the side,
- 2:01Speaker 2: I was like, you can't wear that, and she was like,
- 2:03Speaker 2: this is the uniform. I can't wear anything else where.
- 2:05Speaker 2: They actually took her to the principal. She said, thank god,
- 2:07Speaker 2: the principle was black and was like, no, this is
- 2:09Speaker 2: her body.
- 2:09Speaker 3: She can do it. And she was like the white
- 2:11Speaker 3: teacher made a big fuss about it, like there's boys
- 2:13Speaker 3: in there, this bois of that. But she was like,
- 2:15Speaker 3: this is my body.
- 2:16Speaker 4: White teacher ain't got no ass. That's just jealousy. The
- 2:18Speaker 4: white teacher ain't got no hips. That's just jealousy.
- 2:20Speaker 5: And her husban there on whatever the porn site ws.
- 2:27Speaker 6: You know, women are made very conscious of their body
- 2:30Speaker 6: from very young. I remember my mom would tell me
- 2:32Speaker 6: a story when I was little and they were like,
- 2:34Speaker 6: she's too big to be in a panther. Still, well,
- 2:36Speaker 6: you need to take her out of paper.
- 2:38Speaker 7: She's like that, ain't no pamp I.
- 2:39Speaker 8: Don't know, no, maybe not.
- 2:53Speaker 7: Maybe I just looked like I had one.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Okay, I know what you say.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Wearing what you said, you was saying you were in
- 3:05Speaker 2: a panther now, but but you're saying that it looked
- 3:07Speaker 2: like you had a papa.
- 3:08Speaker 6: Like I had a pamper on it was like bomb Square,
- 3:12Speaker 6: We had a homeboy, like do y'all know Dre?
- 3:14Speaker 3: What Dre?
- 3:15Speaker 4: We used to call dra dirty diaper because I remember
- 3:26Speaker 4: that I didn't used to call him that way, when
- 3:28Speaker 4: when when you call him that, no I know used
- 3:30Speaker 4: to call them that.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Well, let's listen.
- 3:31Speaker 4: I do feel like that when when someone says that
- 3:33Speaker 4: to a woman, they're just acknowledging how they see them,
- 3:35Speaker 4: so they're sexualizing, exactly objectifying them.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Very young Ashley, good morning, good morning. How you feeling.
- 3:43Speaker 3: You went through something?
- 3:43Speaker 9: So I did it myself.
- 3:46Speaker 10: My daughter did talk to us.
- 3:47Speaker 3: What happened.
- 3:48Speaker 9: So it was a graduation in middle school, and had
- 3:51Speaker 9: on a fitted dress, you know, one of those stretchy
- 3:54Speaker 9: but fitted dresses. Yep, and she's sicker and there was
- 3:58Speaker 9: girls in there, mind you, with her hanging out their
- 4:01Speaker 9: after their body open, their sea grew. But they made
- 4:05Speaker 9: her all need to bring her sweater to put around
- 4:08Speaker 9: her waist because her.
- 4:08Speaker 3: But was m that's crazy.
- 4:12Speaker 10: And she was so embarrassed that all these kids seeing
- 4:15Speaker 10: her get escorted into the front door, and they literally
- 4:18Speaker 10: made her stand there with escorts until I got there
- 4:20Speaker 10: to sweater around her rest her waist.
- 4:24Speaker 9: So that her bohop.
- 4:25Speaker 5: That's got to be some form of discrimination, is this
- 4:28Speaker 5: girl discriminations?
- 4:29Speaker 7: Clapper? Discrimination?
- 4:31Speaker 3: Clapper? Why clapper?
- 4:32Speaker 7: Because you clapping around the school yard.
- 4:40Speaker 3: The morning now you dealt with this too. Yes.
- 4:44Speaker 11: Actually, since I was in like BEAUTI school, I guess
- 4:48Speaker 11: we had so it would be like ship sea woman.
- 4:56Speaker 9: Sure that you will go to.
- 4:58Speaker 11: Six inches, you would say, but the white girls did
- 5:02Speaker 11: didn't have him for you know everything that's black girl.
- 5:04Speaker 10: Okay, it would be mostly black.
- 5:07Speaker 12: It's going to be used to it at the time,
- 5:09Speaker 12: but it's not.
- 5:10Speaker 3: She said. You kind of get used to it or
- 5:11Speaker 3: what it's not right, But she said it's not right.
- 5:14Speaker 4: I mean as black people, you get used to all
- 5:15Speaker 4: types of forms of discriminations.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Hello, who's this good morning?
- 5:20Speaker 13: This is day the morning died?
- 5:22Speaker 3: Good morning.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Now talk to you a manager, right, yes, I am
- 5:26Speaker 2: all right. Now don't tell us what job. We don't
- 5:27Speaker 2: want you get your you know, want you lose your job,
- 5:29Speaker 2: but tell us what's going on.
- 5:30Speaker 13: Yeah, so that body shaming is not supposed to be
- 5:34Speaker 13: done since not by a manager. I mean, we have
- 5:36Speaker 13: enough of employees other things that have to work about
- 5:39Speaker 13: coming from first be seen. If that's their body, that's
- 5:44Speaker 13: their body. I don't know if they manages the training classes,
- 5:48Speaker 13: but she definitely has.
- 5:49Speaker 11: The loss to Okay.
- 5:51Speaker 4: I do wonder if the the or the costco employee
- 5:54Speaker 4: said it was the manager of out body shaming.
- 5:55Speaker 3: It probably was a woman another woman manager. Problem.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Yeah, well eight hundred and five eight five, one oh five,
- 6:01Speaker 2: and we're talking about being body shame in the workplaces.
- 6:04Speaker 3: This happened to you.
- 6:04Speaker 4: I get body shamed here all the time, you know
- 6:06Speaker 4: what I'm saying, just because I'm the thickest person up here.
- 6:09Speaker 4: I get body shame from envy. I get body shame
- 6:11Speaker 4: from Taylor because she's a hater, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:14Speaker 4: And it's actually starting to get to me.
- 6:17Speaker 7: Why are you dressed like that? Whoa skinny jeans on?
- 6:20Speaker 3: That their work plate?
- 6:21Speaker 7: It's a uniform all over the building.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Damn, don't tell them that. Don't The problem is he
- 6:28Speaker 3: thinks he's thick, right, but he's not thick. Rights his
- 6:31Speaker 3: own thing. Taylor can't help it, because Taylor couldn't wait
- 6:34Speaker 3: to come in here.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Comes Are you jealous of Charlamagne's thickness?
- 6:43Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
- 6:43Speaker 5: Let's be very clear that he started mentioning that because
- 6:47Speaker 5: he's does of me.
- 6:48Speaker 7: So why do you start think because of me?
- 6:50Speaker 3: Why you want to do side by side comparisons all
- 6:52Speaker 3: the time? And I don't be trying to test me.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Like, let's drop down and get out eagle on right now,
- 6:57Speaker 4: talking about you know what I'm saying.
- 6:59Speaker 3: For what what's wrong with you?
- 7:01Speaker 10: Curve?
- 7:06Speaker 4: You do it?
- 7:06Speaker 3: Though you do it? I had something? Does this happen
- 7:13Speaker 3: to you? Let's talk about this the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
- 7:16Speaker 3: it's topic time.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Called eight hundred and five eight five one five one
- 7:24Speaker 1: to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club, talk
- 7:26Speaker 1: about it.
- 7:27Speaker 10: I want everybody.
- 7:28Speaker 2: It's d J n V Charlamagne the God. We are
- 7:31Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us, we're
- 7:33Speaker 2: talking about women being body shave eight hundred and five
- 7:36Speaker 2: eight five one oh five one.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Now.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Of course, we got some special guest hosts from the
- 7:39Speaker 2: We Talk Bad podcast AJ and Tam Bam, and we
- 7:43Speaker 2: were talking about the situations working at a place where
- 7:45Speaker 2: other women might not have the same body as you,
- 7:48Speaker 2: and you know they don't look as good as you,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but because you got body and shapes and curves that
- 7:53Speaker 2: you know, manages and sometimes the boss thinks that you
- 7:57Speaker 2: is man.
- 7:58Speaker 4: These women be hating okay, hey, they be seeing these
- 8:00Speaker 4: black women come through and you know they'd be of
- 8:02Speaker 4: a certain.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Shape and statue and they just be hating.
- 8:05Speaker 4: That's really what it boils down to.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Let's se it. Let's go to the phone line. It's
- 8:09Speaker 3: got a lot of people on the line. Hello, who's
- 8:10Speaker 3: this good morning?
- 8:11Speaker 14: This is Christina.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Hey, Christina. Now this happened at your job the past
- 8:15Speaker 2: fifteen years.
- 8:16Speaker 9: Yeah, actually twice.
- 8:18Speaker 12: I forgot when I went to join the army.
- 8:22Speaker 13: You know, they have very strict standards, and I had
- 8:26Speaker 13: to lose five pounds to be four an end. Wow,
- 8:30Speaker 13: And I'm very hippie and I've been naturally like that,
- 8:34Speaker 13: and then after I had kids it enhanced it. So
- 8:38Speaker 13: the past fifteen years at my job, within the first
- 8:41Speaker 13: five years they changed the dress code where we were
- 8:44Speaker 13: legging and things like that.
- 8:46Speaker 14: That shows off our shape.
- 8:47Speaker 13: Anything I wear it, it's gonna be tight doing.
- 8:50Speaker 15: Shop like mine.
- 8:52Speaker 3: What did you wear around my hip?
- 8:54Speaker 15: It's about fifty two inches around.
- 8:57Speaker 8: My my butt?
- 8:58Speaker 11: Yes?
- 8:59Speaker 8: How tall?
- 8:59Speaker 7: You're dragging a wagon by three?
- 9:03Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 9:04Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna like it.
- 9:08Speaker 3: It was aught about working for a little.
- 9:12Speaker 13: Mama.
- 9:13Speaker 3: I'm sorry, now, I'm sorry. Goodbye, you're harassing the victim.
- 9:22Speaker 7: What is happening?
- 9:25Speaker 3: Hello, who's this?
- 9:26Speaker 9: Hello in the morning?
- 9:27Speaker 2: About the clubs at the by Lauren good morning, Good morning.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Has that happened to you, You know the fact that
- 9:33Speaker 2: you probably got more curves of shape and it's been
- 9:35Speaker 2: a problem for you at your work spot.
- 9:38Speaker 15: Yes, I mean it's hard as a black woman having natural.
- 9:43Speaker 12: Body part and it just being over sexualized like in.
- 9:48Speaker 11: People's mind when it's not.
- 9:50Speaker 15: If you all remember the home Depot all that was
- 9:54Speaker 15: going around the internet.
- 9:56Speaker 12: She wasn't even yeah, she wasn't aware enoughing anywhere in
- 9:59Speaker 12: a but people were harrassing her.
- 10:03Speaker 13: So it's hard for black women because we always being
- 10:06Speaker 13: over sexual Yes, for no reason.
- 10:09Speaker 9: We were natural hair.
- 10:11Speaker 13: It used to be called nappy.
- 10:13Speaker 7: Yeah, So it's hard.
- 10:15Speaker 13: Being a black woman, y'all.
- 10:18Speaker 5: Remember the news reporter. I think her name is like
- 10:20Speaker 5: Dmitria Dmetrio.
- 10:24Speaker 7: Beautiful. It was all the white women.
- 10:26Speaker 5: Calling and complaining, are putting messages online about her body shape,
- 10:29Speaker 5: and she looked very good in her clothes.
- 10:31Speaker 7: There was Mutria laughing.
- 10:33Speaker 5: It's like a lord, oh b I l O R
- 10:36Speaker 5: something like mut I know the Mutri.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Hello, who's this key? Kelly? Good on the hell are you? Kelly?
- 10:42Speaker 12: I'm thirty two?
- 10:44Speaker 3: Okay, Now you said this happened to you? Before Mama,
- 10:46Speaker 3: Oh heck, yeah, what happened?
- 10:49Speaker 14: So then in like a white dominant area, I wasn't
- 10:54Speaker 14: sympastic in different types of sports, and I was literally
- 10:58Speaker 14: like to take my side so.
- 11:01Speaker 12: That they wouldn't bust out, you know, or be too.
- 11:05Speaker 13: Big for my tights or whatever. Oh my was too big.
- 11:09Speaker 15: And then like it was really hard and gymnastics, I
- 11:12Speaker 15: would always getting fun up because all these girls persons
- 11:14Speaker 15: me and I'm sitting here in a legal part and
- 11:17Speaker 15: obviously I have the biggest figure and everyone just there.
- 11:20Speaker 12: And he wasn't the thing back then?
- 11:23Speaker 3: How do you take me? Are you to take me
- 11:24Speaker 3: a thigh?
- 11:26Speaker 14: I would take.
- 11:28Speaker 12: Yeah, I would take that stick and then probably makes
- 11:32Speaker 12: my parts smaller on me?
- 11:34Speaker 3: What did your parents say? Did your parents know you
- 11:35Speaker 3: had to do that?
- 11:37Speaker 12: So my mom found out when I was around sixteen,
- 11:40Speaker 12: and she told me like she's like, you know, self
- 11:43Speaker 12: worth and you know everything was within outwards, but you know.
- 11:49Speaker 13: As I got older, like having a body became a thing.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Right, Well, thank you, I'm sure I had to deal
- 11:55Speaker 3: with that, Mama, No, thank.
- 11:57Speaker 1: You so much.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Good morning, guys, whose auto morning?
- 12:02Speaker 7: What I'm hearing?
- 12:02Speaker 12: Man?
- 12:02Speaker 4: It boils down just the sexualizing and objectifying of of
- 12:06Speaker 4: of black women, and you know, women at a thicker
- 12:09Speaker 4: and just jealousy and envy of black women and women
- 12:11Speaker 4: at a thickness because if I'm following the dress code
- 12:13Speaker 4: with min your business right right.
- 12:15Speaker 5: So we don't know if the Costco worker was white
- 12:17Speaker 5: or black, though this is our experiences.
- 12:22Speaker 7: She was black.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 6: Now, I've never seen anybody take their thighs to make
- 12:26Speaker 6: it look smaller. But I know I've seen girls tape
- 12:28Speaker 6: under their butt cheek.
- 12:30Speaker 7: Can I say that under their butt cheek to give them.
- 12:33Speaker 3: All took.
- 12:36Speaker 7: Hold over?
- 12:36Speaker 3: What does that do? Now?
- 12:38Speaker 7: Like if you tape under your butt but.
- 12:43Speaker 14: Work?
- 12:44Speaker 7: Yeah, to give you that little pie?
- 12:46Speaker 3: Don't you wanted to be smaller? Though? Is she trying
- 12:48Speaker 3: to compress it now?
- 12:50Speaker 1: The butt is cool?
- 12:51Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody want to do this.
- 12:52Speaker 5: Person at Costco is probably just having a problem with
- 12:54Speaker 5: that manager in particular.
- 12:56Speaker 7: She got a person.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she fine, I'm saying.
- 13:02Speaker 7: Now, okay, So it just depends.
- 13:04Speaker 5: So you know, and charlest and they have the port.
- 13:06Speaker 5: So a lot of times they complain about women wearing
- 13:08Speaker 5: because women are now working out there, they complain about
- 13:10Speaker 5: them wearing.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Leggings to work.
- 13:12Speaker 5: I feel like you should wear cargo pants. You should
- 13:13Speaker 5: wear like a thicker material if you and in an.
- 13:16Speaker 7: Environment like that.
- 13:17Speaker 5: Yeah, but leggings amongst mostly men out that we have
- 13:21Speaker 5: to consider those things as women.
- 13:24Speaker 6: Men have to consider those things. Why do women have
- 13:26Speaker 6: to change their attire? Like the men need to change
- 13:28Speaker 6: their mindset?
- 13:29Speaker 7: Like focus on your not very support it's important.
- 13:33Speaker 3: I agree with you. But what if it's hard for
- 13:35Speaker 3: them to focus.
- 13:35Speaker 7: Well, then they need to change their focus. That's not
- 13:37Speaker 7: that's not the ladies fault. Put on your legs. It's
- 13:39Speaker 7: one hundred and ten degrees out there.
- 13:41Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 13:41Speaker 3: And by the way, ain't no man complaining wash them.
- 13:44Speaker 8: But washing.
- 13:46Speaker 3: That's why we call them wood pants.
- 13:48Speaker 15: Boy, that's right.
- 13:50Speaker 4: You wear them all day long and when you take
- 13:52Speaker 4: them off wool.
- 13:56Speaker 2: All right, Well, keep a lot when we come back.
- 13:58Speaker 2: We got your room and report. We got to talk
- 13:59Speaker 2: about Lizzo about eighteen minutes ago. Twenty minutes ago, Lizzo
- 14:02Speaker 2: actually left the statement. We'll get that statement. Read that
- 14:05Speaker 2: statement to you guys. So don't know if it's the
- 14:06Speaker 2: breakfast club.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Good morning,