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- 0:00If you think President Biden was good for climate change and
- 0:03the environment by passing the Inflation Reduction Act, well,
- 0:06a lot of environmentalists in the U.S. think that P.P.
- 0:10Harris will actually be better. And
- 0:13we're going to talk about why on this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. Let's
- 0:17start the show. Hey
- 0:23everybody, welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm
- 0:26your host Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find out what's happening with
- 0:29the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean, and what you can do to live for
- 0:33a better ocean by taking action. And on today's episode, we're
- 0:36going to be talking about action taking from a policy perspective. And
- 0:40look, it's all on your news feeds, it's on your TV,
- 0:43you can't get away from it, it's on the radio, it's on podcasts. We're
- 0:48gonna talk about the presidential debate. I know last
- 0:51time I talked about politics, I said, we're not gonna talk about the presidential debate.
- 0:55But there is a significant difference in the parties
- 0:59and their approach towards doing something about climate
- 1:03change. And if you wanna know how both parties
- 1:06are doing, on one side you have the Republicans, who
- 1:11are rumored and even, I guess, the VP candidate
- 1:16for the Republicans, Vance, J.D. Vance, has
- 1:19come out, or not has come out, but actually wrote
- 1:22the forward, I believe, for Project 2025, a
- 1:26notorious bill or a notorious plan of action that
- 1:31some Republicans think that Donald Trump should take when
- 1:35and if he gets into the presidency. And
- 1:39if you want to know how that's going to affect the environment, I'm going to link to
- 1:43an article on LinkedIn by a good friend of mine, doctor, or
- 1:46doctor, should be a doctor, Angelo Villa Gomez. He
- 1:50put out just all the resources you need to know how the
- 1:54Project 2025 is going to affect climate change,
- 1:58fossil fuels, Environmental Protection Agency, NOAA, Ocean
- 2:01Conservation, NOAA Weather Service, Department of Interior, Antiquities
- 2:06Act, public lands, wildlife and migratory birds.
- 2:29and also reduce inflation. And it's an act that is
- 2:33probably the most progressive act. It has been touted as the most
- 2:36pervasive act to
- 2:40fight climate change than we've ever seen before. However, a
- 2:44lot of environmentalists and a lot of environmental organizations in
- 2:47the US and outside the US have criticized the Biden administration for
- 2:51not doing enough. and so especially young
- 2:55environmentalists, and they want to see more action. And
- 2:58they also pointed out that Harris's record, Kamala Harris's
- 3:02record for prosecuting oil companies and her co-sponsorship of
- 3:06the Green New Deal are reasons for her to be, that
- 3:09she will be a better president for the environment than
- 3:13President Biden. So there's a lot of excitement in the air. Look, it's
- 3:16been about a week since, a little over a week that
- 3:20you're hearing, since you're hearing this, that uh... washington like this
- 3:23is two weeks that uh... kamala harris vp kamala harris has
- 3:26been named as the presidential candidate for uh...
- 3:30the democrats uh... and uh... she has injected a
- 3:34lot of excitement she got actually quickly became uh...
- 3:38the nominee with the amount of money that she raised from
- 3:41a lot of different groups people are happy people are in our energize
- 3:45their is this sort of new
- 3:49sort of look on the presidential campaign. You could see it before
- 3:53when Biden was still running and it ran against Donald
- 3:56Trump that you know he was people were not excited
- 4:00people like are you serious this is these are the only two out
- 4:03of the population of over 350 million these are the only two people that we
- 4:06get to choose from. People were a little distraught. They were distraught not
- 4:10only at Donald Trump and his antics, but they're distraught by you know,
- 4:13President Biden in his antics, you know, he's looks old.
- 4:17He looks older. He looks like he's having trouble, you
- 4:20know, putting words together during speeches. His the last debate
- 4:24he did with Donald Trump was not very good. And so people were
- 4:27concerned and a lot of people in the Democrats were very concerned. And
- 4:31so that's when, you know, we started to see this shift
- 4:34and started to see, hey, you know, Kamala Harris is going to be the
- 4:38next presidential nominee. And nobody believed it. It was a long shot
- 4:42because President Biden had to be the one that was going
- 4:45to say no when he finally did it. Whether he wanted to do it or
- 4:48not, he did it. And there's just been this new energy that
- 4:52in the election itself. The Republicans are trying to
- 4:55figure out what to do. They were attacking Biden for his
- 4:59age and the fact that he was messing up words and messing up people's
- 5:02names as he was introducing them, calling President
- 5:06Zelensky, who's Ukrainian, President Putin, who's
- 5:10Russian and trying to invade, is invading his country. Obviously,
- 5:15not a good sign. And so now with
- 5:18Kamala Harris in as the nominee and
- 5:22as the candidate, you know, holy cow, like this is,
- 5:25this has changed. And, you know, just as I'm recording this
- 5:28episode, it's been about a day since they, I
- 5:32believe it's Watts is his name, the VP candidate
- 5:36for the Harris ticket. He's going to be on the ticket. He's
- 5:40going to be, if she gets elected president, he will
- 5:43be the next vice president. And, but What's
- 5:46going back, and let's get away from that, and let's go into sort of
- 5:49her record against oil and
- 5:53gas companies, and why people
- 5:56are really following her. So representatives from 11 organizations devoted to elevating
- 6:00young voters' concerns about climate change said Harris's record
- 6:03of going after big oil companies as a prosecutor and
- 6:07her co-sponsorship of the Green New Deal as a senator make
- 6:11her a more appealing candidate than Biden despite his
- 6:14environmental wins. So it's not saying that Biden was bad, just Biden over
- 6:18the last little bit has approved oil
- 6:21and gas projects that were not expected to be approved and had
- 6:25a lot of controversy surrounding it. But when it comes to Harris,
- 6:28she has a history around holding big oil accountable in
- 6:31a way that we haven't seen and haven't been able to do for the
- 6:34last four years. This is said by Aru Shiniaeji, a
- 6:3926-year-old that's the executive director of the Sunrise Movement, which pushes
- 6:43for government interventions to address climate change. And
- 6:46the Green New Deal Network, a coalition of 19 progressive environmental and
- 6:50social justice organizations, including the Sunrise Movement, endorsed Harris
- 6:54this week, but had not previously issued an endorsement for
- 6:57Biden. So having these young
- 7:01environmentalists as part of the endorsement really
- 7:05helps the environmental movement. They represent a lot of people. And at one
- 7:09point, they were telling members, when Biden was president, they were telling members, we're
- 7:12just telling them not to vote, which is something you don't want to do, because that
- 7:16happened in 2016 when Donald
- 7:21Trump became president, and people were just abstaining from
- 7:24voting because they just didn't think Hillary Clinton was the
- 7:27right candidate. They didn't like Donald J. Trump. And all of a
- 7:30sudden, they didn't vote. And people who didn't come out to vote You
- 7:33know, lots of the people who came out to vote and we saw a change in
- 7:37American history for, you know, several times. So now
- 7:41we're seeing that, hey, look, you know what? We're actually seeing,
- 7:44you know, activists ages ranging from 16 to 29. You
- 7:49know, this is huge. We're going to start to see
- 7:52people come out in droves. We're going to start to see these environmental networks that
- 7:56want big changes against climate change to vote somebody in who has
- 7:59a history of going up against big oil and gas companies and
- 8:03saying, no, we're not letting you get away with
- 8:06this. And I think that's the big appeal when
- 8:09it comes to Harris. And I think that's
- 8:13huge. Dana Fisher, director of the Center of Environment, Community, and Equity at
- 8:16American University said, it's not that young voters are
- 8:19ignoring Biden's work on climate, it's that they want to see more.
- 8:23So the young people know it's not enough because they recognize how severe the
- 8:26climate crisis is. This is a quote from Fisher, from Dana Fisher.
- 8:30And so We're constantly seeing this battle of
- 8:34like, how many votes can you get, right? That's what you want. You
- 8:38want as many people out as possible to get votes. And this is
- 8:41what you want. Like, this is how you want people to
- 8:44vote. And so that's sort of, and Dana Fisher, once she found
- 8:48out that people in environmental networks were saying, hey, you know what, don't even bother going
- 8:51on vote if it's going to be Biden or Trump. She was like, I
- 8:54was like, are you kidding me? This is a quote from Dana Fisher. Don't
- 8:58you remember what happened in 2000? She goes, of course not. They didn't
- 9:01remember because they probably weren't alive or they were in diapers. But it's very
- 9:04hard to have a long view when you're younger. So it's hard to like, you
- 9:08don't know if you're repeating past mistakes. But since Biden
- 9:12dropped out of the race, Fisher said the youth climate activists that
- 9:15she's talked to are more likely to vote, which is great. That's what we want to see.
- 9:19So Harris's young supporters have highlighted the settlements she secured as
- 9:23California Attorney General with Chevron, BP, and ConocoPhillips over
- 9:26their handling of hazardous materials. Now, when
- 9:29you go after and you try and stop oil companies,
- 9:34you've stopped them in the courts. That's how it's been done historically.
- 9:38You can protest and you can scream and
- 9:41yell at the top of your lungs. but to really get them
- 9:44to stop is through injunctions and suing the government. quite
- 10:00a bit. Then a number of organizations banded together, they
- 10:03had a coalition, including, I believe it was
- 10:06the Environmental Defense Fund, but don't quote me on that, but there were a number
- 10:10of environmental lawyers that sued the government, not
- 10:13the Shell or the oil company, but sued the
- 10:16government because they said that the
- 10:20government did not hold Shell to the proper accountability in
- 10:24the environmental assessment that they had to do before they
- 10:27were going to even think about drilling on the North Slope. So
- 10:31because they did that, they said they just breezed through some of the problems.
- 10:35And this is what happens quite often. If you don't get the right consulting
- 10:38firm, and organizations and oil
- 10:42companies are going to be like, hey, you know what? Let's just breeze over some
- 10:45of the ramifications, the consequences that can happen from drilling into wherever
- 10:48we're going to drill into and we'll just be able to do that. A good consulting firm
- 10:52is like, no, we're just going to look at everything and we're going to see and we're going to
- 10:55make the proper assessment so that we can cover all of our basis
- 10:59because the good consulting companies out there, environmental
- 11:02consulting companies out there that work with organizations and companies like oil
- 11:05companies, have to stay in the middle. At some part, they're
- 11:09part government. At some part, they're representing their clients. But they have to
- 11:12stay true to the science. They have to stay true to the conservation, not
- 11:16conversation, conservation. But that doesn't always happen. And in
- 11:20this case, it wasn't enough. And so the environmental lawyers
- 11:23were like, hey, let's go to the courts and let's get it. This is what Kamala
- 11:27Harris did when she was a prosecutor. She held the
- 11:32oil companies, Chevron, BP, ConocoPhillips, you
- 11:35know, to a higher standard. They held it to account for their
- 11:39mistakes and their, you know, not handling hazardous
- 11:42materials properly. Biden is a lot more moderate in
- 11:46terms of a policy approach, whereas Kamala is,
- 11:50isn't afraid to tackle environmental and climate policy
- 11:54in a way that really gets at the root, especially with polluters. This
- 11:58is said, Iris Zan, 20, 20 year
- 12:02old a youth advisory board member at the global youth storytelling
- 12:05and research lab which engages youth leaders in climate environmental justice
- 12:09research So Harris has brought up that early career work in
- 12:13some of her initial campaign appearances was great She even said
- 12:16as district attorney to go after polluters. I created one
- 12:19of the first environmental just environmental justice units in
- 12:23our nation. She said on July 22nd in Wilmington, Delaware, referring
- 12:28to her time as district attorney in San Francisco, Donald Trump stood in
- 12:31Mar-a-Lago and told big oil lobbyists he
- 12:34would do their bidding for a $1 billion campaign
- 12:38contribution. This is why we got to take money out of politics. And
- 12:42this is, you know, what continues to happen you
- 12:46know, in this race is you start to see
- 12:50that one side is very much pro-environment, the other side
- 12:54is very much pro-revenue and pro-business and
- 12:57pro-privatization of the environment. And,
- 13:00you know, allowing people to make hand over fist in terms of money
- 13:04and not pay the consequences for the consequences that they
- 13:07cause the rest of the people, not only in the U.S., but around
- 13:10the world. And so we're starting, you know, this article that I'm reading
- 13:14here and I'm going over as you can, as you can probably hear and tell or see
- 13:17if you're watching the video. It's a
- 13:21truth telling tale of how the environmental movement
- 13:26and the young movement is seeing this new candidate in
- 13:30Kamala Harris. this is something that
- 13:33is going to like you know motivate people to go out
- 13:37and vote for the environment which i think is
- 13:40is wonderful there's lots of reasons to vote on either side
- 13:43i'm not trying to pick a side here i have my side i'm
- 13:47not even american so i can't choose i can't vote But
- 13:51one tells me that, you know, the Democratic side is just more
- 13:55for protecting the environment, more for thinking straight when
- 13:58it comes to the environment, not rushing into things and paying the price after.
- 14:03And I think that's really important. So I think that's
- 14:06what's really good. However, something to realize is
- 14:10that although Harris said in 2019 that
- 14:13she would be against fracking if elected president, she no
- 14:16longer supports a ban. And Dana Fisher says she
- 14:19doesn't want to turn off people from the fossil fuel extracting
- 14:23states. She's not going to end up as
- 14:27a progressive platform as she had when she was in California,
- 14:31However, she is going to be more progressive than Biden. Is
- 14:34she going to be more progressive than Biden? I expect she will be.
- 14:37This is a quote from Dana Fisher. So look, we're starting
- 14:41to see. this start
- 14:44to turn more towards people versus
- 14:48like people about policy. That's what people want. It's back
- 14:52towards policy. It's not choosing which is the worst
- 14:55of evil. It's choose who's putting up the best policy.
- 14:59And if you look at the speeches, you're gonna
- 15:03start to notice a lot more policy being put into place to say, hey, look,
- 15:07Kamala Harris represents this. Governor Watts
- 15:10represents this. Sorry, I don't remember Watts' first name. This is
- 15:14all about policy, and that's what the election should
- 15:17be about. It's about policy, not about personal name-calling, not
- 15:21about what they've done in the past. It's all about who
- 15:24would represent you best as a leader for the U.S., and
- 15:28that's what you should go on. Look at the policy. And if you're listening
- 15:31to this podcast and you want something for the environment, you
- 15:35kind of know which way you should be leaning. I'm not trying to tell you which
- 15:38way you should be leaning or which way you should vote. But if you're for the
- 15:41environment, there's clearly one party that's ahead of the other. In fact, like
- 15:45they're even criticizing their own president that's a Democrat to
- 15:48say that president didn't do enough and people want
- 15:52holding him accountable by not. You know, not saying he's going to
- 15:55be the nominee for the next year, but it's going to be Kamala Harris, who's
- 15:59got a track record going up against big oil. She's not afraid. She's
- 16:03brave in this kind of way. She stands straight up to them and says, no,
- 16:07absolutely not. You're not going to get away with breaking the law. And that's final.
- 16:11And I think that's going to be a huge thing. to
- 16:15see in the future. So that's it for today's episode.
- 16:18I just wanted to let you know, when it comes to Kamala
- 16:22Harris as a presidential candidate for
- 16:26the Democratic Party, we're starting to see more
- 16:29and more environmental policy pop up. And that's great
- 16:33to hear. And we'll see, time will be tested,
- 16:36and time will tell whether we are going to see more
- 16:40fossil fuel projects approved, no matter who gets
- 16:43in. right? That's dangerous. We can't have
- 16:47that anymore. We can't have any new, you know, projects. And
- 16:50the reason why, well, there's a number of reasons why, but the
- 16:53main reason why is all that production is not going to go into production for another like 30 to
- 16:5750 years. So what are we doing here? What are we really thinking about?
- 17:01and how much more oil do we have, and where's
- 17:04all that gonna go? How's that all gonna be used? We're gonna be talking about a lot of that in
- 17:08the future as it comes up, but this I wanted to just kinda let
- 17:11you know, people are talking about the election. I try
- 17:15and stay away, but obviously I'm a little biased towards the environment, towards
- 17:18parties that support the environment, and that's what
- 17:22we're seeing here. And I think it's really nice to have that
- 17:26extra energy coming into a campaign. I think it's great to
- 17:29have that environmental energy coming to a campaign and really stirring
- 17:34up the environmental community to be like, hey, this is really good.
- 17:37We have an option here to have better environmental policy
- 17:41on the already great policy that we have now.
- 17:45It can be improved. Let's improve it and let's go. So
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