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Charlie Robinson | American Gladio, Weather Weapons, & Psyop Season · The Higherside Chats

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  The planet's puppet masters
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  almost surely
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  have a plan.
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  There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm
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  of man.
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  Not till we've thoroughly tested
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  every last close tested view,
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  I'll find the more we think we know,
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  the less we religion.
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  Where would we be
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  without
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  c h c?
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  Because we know they're lying to us, us
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  don't know to what degree, where would we
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  be
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  without
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  It's been a long December from the sunshine
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  state. I'm Greg Carlwood. And even just 2
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  weeks into the new year, it's hard to
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  stay caught up on all the stress inducing
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  psyops, weather weapon events, chemical fogs, bird flu
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  migrations,
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  drone swarms, and World War 3 warnings, but
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  we do the best we can. Though it
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  seems like the pedonarcissist
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  psychopathic parasites of the power pyramid are frantically
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  flipping through every page of the big playbook,
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  trying to keep us in a confused panic
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  and maybe even implode the empire they built
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  on blackmail, black markets, and even a little
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  black magic.
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  It's hard not to get sucked into the
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  drama of the day, an endless loop of
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  narrative, counter narrative analysis, but it's important to
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  remember how much of it is designed to
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  do just that and how seemingly random events
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  arrive right on schedule.
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  Well, here to break it all down, connect
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  the big dots, and demystify the madness is
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  one of the best available options, my friend
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  and yours, Charlie Robinson.
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  Hard to believe he's only been here 3
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  times before, but we've spent a lot of
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  that time covering his great books with titles
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  like the octopus of global control,
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  hippocrisy,
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  surviving in a world of cultural double standard,
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  and The Control Demolition of the American Empire
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  coauthored with Jeff Berwick. Charlie is also the
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  host of the always insightful macroaggressions
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  podcast and the emcee of the annual Anarco
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  Poco conference in Acapulco, Mexico.
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  But that's not all, people. He also recently
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  purchased the well known independent news website Activist
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  Post and the alternative health website Natural Blaze.
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  Busy, busy guy and as always, so much
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  to talk about so little time. The great
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  octopus tamer, macroaggressions
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  maestro, and your psyops season chaos correspondent,
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  Charlie, my man. Welcome back.
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  Best
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  intro in the business
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  always. Thank you for having me. It's always
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  great to be back on the higher side
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  chats. Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know,
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  a lot of people are trying to get
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  the audience's attention, so we really gotta jazz
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  them up so they don't change that dial.
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  But you are one of the best, and
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  it's impressive to see you find these new
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  ways of changing it up and doing creative
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  things and hosting events and buying websites. I
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  really need to take more pages out of
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  your book and find some new ways to
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  change things up myself, but
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  let's get into the real catalyst for coming
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  together, and that's the 2 events that kicked
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  off the new year, the Cybertruck bomber and
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  the New Orleans crowd attack.
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  They say there's no connection between the 2,
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  but both rented EV trucks from the same
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  app,
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  decided to cause chaos on the same day,
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  and both have been military men stationed at
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  Fort Bragg known for their psychological operations unit.
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  That's kind of a lot of coincidences.
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  Yeah. Just a few. I just recently recorded
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  a Macroaggressions
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  episode, hasn't gone out yet, talking about this
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  exact same thing.
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  I get very nervous when I see things
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  like this that line up both using the
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  Turo app to rent electric trucks,
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  both leaving manifestos, one written,
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  one video, both from Fort Bragg, both were
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  in Afghanistan at the same time, both carried
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  out their attacks on the same day. I
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  mean, you could call me a coincidence theorist
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  if you'd like, but I get nervous
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  when I see things like this, especially when
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  the media frames it in a way that
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  is looking for a reaction. And I'll tell
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  you, I was on January 1st when this
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  was all happening. That was the first day
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  that I was
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  taking over activist posts. So I had my
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  hands full. Of course, I'm watching the news
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  because I'm republishing the news.
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  But the thing that caught my eye, and
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  you see that everyone's getting run over in
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  New Orleans, and it's horrible. I can put
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  myself in that scenario, but I also spent
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  10 years in Las Vegas, in Las Vegas
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  real estate. 1 of my best friends sold
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  out the Trump Towers there, so I know
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  that place really well. And it wasn't until
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  I saw the photograph,
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  a burning Cybertruck with the Trump logo right
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  next to it. I took one look at
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  it and I said, oh, we've got Operation
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  Gladio come to American soil because if there's
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  one thing they love to do, it's to
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  send messages and to see a burning
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  Cybertruck, which reminds you of Elon Musk, next
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  to the Trump logo and these 2 have
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  some sort of weird bromance going on.
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  It was a message in one photograph and
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  I took one look at that and I
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  said,
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  nope. None of this is authentic. There's far
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  more to this story than what's being reported.
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  I'm absolutely with you. It looked like
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  the movie poster for some post apocalyptic film
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  coming out, like Civil War 2 or something.
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  And the New Orleans story definitely had some
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  weird aspects. As you say, you've been there,
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  I've been there. If you've been on Bourbon
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  Street, you know it's a pedestrian street almost
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  all the time, especially at a time like
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  New Year's, and the barriers every city has
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  pedestrian streets, and there's always those big metal
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  barriers.
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  Why were the barriers down? You know? That's
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  the weird thing. As they say the barriers
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  were down, I don't know that they've ever
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  been down. He has this ISIS flag,
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  and then No Agenda found a clip where
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  there was an article in a magazine run
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  by Al Qaeda called Inspire,
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  and they called the f 150
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  the ultimate mowing machine for mowing down crowds.
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  And this was in 2016,
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  the last time Trump was about to take
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  office. So they really did dust off an
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  old idea
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  and then, like, I don't know, scramble some
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  poor guy's brain to make him do the
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  thing. But there also was this side story
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  of bombs in the area, bomb making materials
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  in his home. It's like when these things
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  happen, they say, well, there were definitely more
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  than 1 shooter, and then suddenly, nope. There's
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  a 1 shooter who acted alone. That's the
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  vibe I got from this, like, oh, there's
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  bombs around, but we know that ISIS equals
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  CIA. Right?
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  And when
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  I saw the Cybertruck, you know, the electric
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  car,
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  I thought about a conversation I had with
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  Whitney Webb in 2020
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  in the lead up to that election, the
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  Biden election, and one of the things that
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  she was talking about was that they were
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  role playing
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  scenarios that might happen during the election.
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  They were saying, Well, maybe a cyber attack
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  on the water treatment facilities
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  and power stations and things like that. But
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  the 3rd component that they were testing was
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  electric vehicles
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  being remotely controlled and driven into people that
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  were standing in line waiting to vote, that
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  they had role played that. Now it didn't
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  happen in 2020, of course, but the idea
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  that that's a concept that they're role playing
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  and, of course, the group that was role
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  playing, it was, you know, like a Unit
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  8200 connected Israeli firm that was, like, really
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  sketchy. It's like, are you saying that we
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  should be aware of this or are you
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  telling us that you're planning something like this?
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  My little tinfoil hat starts to come out
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  when I hear these things in advance. And
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  so I had that in the back of
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  my mind for the 2020 election. I had
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  it in in my mind for the 24
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  election as well. Neither
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  scenario has happened. But it just kinda got
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  me thinking when I when I saw it,
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  well, this is a truck that's being used,
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  it's running people over, it's doing all this.
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  I mean, yes, that happened not too long
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  ago in Germany over Christmas with the Christmas
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  market where a bunch of people were run
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  over there as well. So
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  car as a weapon,
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  it's not the first time we've heard that,
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  but, of course, leave it up to the
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  mainstream media to describe it in all of
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  their headlines as car runs over people. Not
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  a person runs over people. It's like maximum
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  overdrive, like we just woke up one day
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  and the machines had taken over and they're
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  just driving without people in it. But no,
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  there's actually human beings in these cars, allegedly,
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  and they are running people over. So
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  as Wilford Brimley's character in The Firm said,
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  I get paid to be suspicious when I
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  got nothing to be suspicious about. You know?
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  So when I see things like this, I
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  just cannot let it go. And I think
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  that it's worth digging into, especially when you
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  start to notice that,
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  you know, the overlap between the people involved.
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  And you say, Well, it'd be one thing
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  if it was a disgruntled guy who had
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  lost his job, and you could sort of
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  understand that. But when both of the drivers
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  have ties to the same military base, and
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  that military base is the same military base,
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  if we can go back just 2 years
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  to 2022,
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  if you remember that really creepy video that
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  was put out called Ghosts in the Machine,
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  That was put together by a group that
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  is called the
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  US Army Special Forces, which is the Green
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  Berets. But within that,
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  the components that they work on, counterinsurgency,
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  special reconnaissance,
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  counterterrorism,
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  information operations,
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  psychological
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  operations,
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  psychological
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  warfare.
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  So they're the ones that put that out
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  and it was from the 4th SIOP group,
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  and that's Army Special Forces Information Operations.
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  And
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  just so that people aren't confused as to,
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  like, well, maybe, maybe not, you know, maybe
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  it's them, maybe it's no. No. If you
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  watch the video to the end, and it's
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  3 and a half minutes long, at the
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  very end, they put the website,
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  goarmysof.com.
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  It's right there. They're not trying to hide
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  it. It's not for you to speculate as
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  to who's behind it. They're telling you what's
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  going on. And some of the text that
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  runs during that
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  video, you'll find us in the shadows.
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  Warfare is evolving.
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  All the world's a stage.
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  We can deceive,
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  persuade,
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  change, influence, inspire.
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  We come in many forms. We are everywhere.
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  Now
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  I get freaked out when I see that.
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  That didn't strike me as a threat to
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  other countries.
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  Right. I took that as a domestic threat,
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  that the psychological warfare was going to intensify
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  until
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  morale improved.
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  Right. And I really don't like the use
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  of AI, but I did use chat GTP
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  to ask this question about notable
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  tragic
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  events where the person was connected to Fort
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  Bragg, and it gave a whole lot of
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  events.
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  John Walker Lind called the American Taliban.
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  He was an American who became famous as
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  the American Taliban. Was arrested in 2001 in
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  Afghanistan
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  while fighting for the Taliban. He basically switched
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  sides.
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  He was stationed at Fort Bragg. Sergeant Hassan
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  Akbar in
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  2003,
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  another US Army soldier, he carried out an
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  attack on his fellow soldiers during the early
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  stages of the Iraq War. He killed 2
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  soldiers and injured
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  several others in a grenade attack.
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  He was from Fort Bragg.
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  Then you have
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  another name I can barely pronounce, but Abdou
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  Kalim
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  Mujad Mohammed in 2009,
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  formerly known as Carlos Bledsoe, much easier name
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  to pronounce. He was involved in a shooting
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  spree at a military recruiting center in Little
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  Rock, Arkansas in 2009, killed a soldier, and
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  injured another.
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  He was from
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  Fort Bragg as well. And then the case
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  of army major Nadal Hassan,
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  a US army psychiatrist who carried out the
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  Fort Hood shooting in 2009,
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  also spent a lot of time at Fort
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  Bragg, and this was just with one ask.
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  You know, I was gonna go down the
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  list of, like, all these events I could
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  remember and see if there was a connection,
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  but, I mean, that right there tells you
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  that they got something sketchy going on there.
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  And this is also weird. So
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  there is a new threat of interest
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  with the New Orleans guy. They say that
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  he visited Tampa twice before the attack, and
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  there's a huge military base here called
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  Makdil, which is apparently one of the main
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  hubs for all Middle Eastern operations. Even on
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  the local Tampa subreddit, someone was asking, why
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  are there Saudi soldiers
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  here at the Marriott?
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  And, you know, then the people just explain,
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  well, this is a base, you know, right
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  here that people in the Middle East do
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  operations with, so it's not super unusual. But,
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  you know, my spidey sense went off a
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  little bit. Like, this is the kind of
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  thing you hear about in the aftermath, the
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  kind of warnings people say, but so
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  there is an event coming up in Tampa.
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  It's our biggest thing. It's called Gasparilla. It's
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  like a pirate themed Mardi Gras. They have
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  a big debaucherous day where adults get drunk
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  and dress as pirates, and they bring out
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  the pirate ship, and then they have another
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  day where it's kids. And my daughter last
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  year, she loved dressing up as a pirate,
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  being on a main road waving to everybody,
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  everybody waving back. She still talks about it.
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  We've been looking forward to going to the
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  Gasparilla parade.
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  Well, now there's articles all over Tampa about
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  how this guy was here previously
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  twice. They don't know if there's a connection.
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  Security will be heightened and will be
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  running live drills to prepare.
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  We've heard that before. So I don't know
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  if I'm gonna go,
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  but I just wanted to throw that out
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  there now
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  in case something happens that it's like, yeah.
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  I mean, this is the kind of stuff
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  that happens before an event. You know, everybody
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  says there were warnings, there were drills that
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  went live, this kind of stuff, and it's
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  kinda circling around my my home city, which
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  is a little concerning.
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  Yeah. And Fort Bragg is a sketchy place.
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  I mean, it's the Army's most important base.
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  It's the largest one too. It's
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  251 square miles. They have 2 airfields there.
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  It's massive. It's in North Carolina.
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  This is where special operations assets are stationed.
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  You have the US Army Forces Command, US
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  Army Reserves Command, US Army Special Operations Command's
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  there, 82nd Airborne is there, 3rd Special Forces
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  Group, Delta Force is there, JSOC is there,
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  Joint Special
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  Operations Command,
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  and
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  also US Army Special Forces, which is essentially
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  like American Gladio,
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  and that's Green Berets, and we just talked
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  about what they're into. But for those who
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  are unfamiliar with what JSOC is, JSOC is
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  the president's private kill squad.
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  That's the team that gets sent in when
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  he wants something off the books and somebody
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  to die, which normally happens in foreign countries,
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  and this is like the Stanley McChrystals
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  of the world. These guys,
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  it's very much like a Gladio, like elite
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  special forces that they'll send off to not
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  everybody, of course, there's 60,000 people that are
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  a part of JSOC, but the core unit,
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  like Delta Force,
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  they answer to the president.
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  That doesn't go up the chain of command
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  to Congress. This is where, if you want
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  to get something done off the records, that's
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  how you would do it.
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  It's worth noting that the golf course Trump
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  shooter Ryan Wesley Routhe
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  visited Fort Bragg a 147
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  times and stayed overnight 29 times, and so
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  I I have to think, if you're Joe
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  Biden, if you go back in a time
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  machine to the summer
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  when Trump's getting shot at and Biden's
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  presidency
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  is in shambles, his future as the nominee
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  is sure to come to an end pretty
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  soon. He can't even find his way off
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  the stage. And next thing you know, a
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  guy who is associated
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  with Fort Bragg
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  and JSOC,
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  this Ryan Wesley route, all of a sudden
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  decides that he's going to shoot at Donald
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  Trump on the golf course. Okay. Now, they
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  didn't send their best and brightest. I think
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  that if you had sent Delta Force,
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  we would've had Trump's funeral 4 days later.
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  But this guy has connections to it, so
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  it felt very much like
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  last ditch effort.
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  You know, let's have this group over there
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  tidy up the problem and maybe take a
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  shot at him, and then if he gets
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  caught, if he's successful, great. If he's unsuccessful,
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  then we just brand him as an unhinged
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  lunatic, and, yeah, they'll dig into his past
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  and they'll find some of this stuff, but
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  we'll just throw our hands up and say,
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  we didn't send him. I mean, he hated
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  Donald Trump. What do you want us to
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  do? A lot of people hate Donald you
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  want us to drag everybody down to the
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  police station who hates Donald Trump who has
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  a problem with him? Hell, it would be
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  here all, you know, for the rest of
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  the year. So
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  this is how
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  these things start to go. It's easy to
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  in retrospect, you can build this case and
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  you can look back and go, oh, my
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  god. It was so obvious that these guys
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  are connected. But like you said, trying to
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  call it in advance and to recognize
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  what will happen before it happens, that's way
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  more difficult to do. But if you know
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  what you're looking for,
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  live exercises, as you mentioned, that's a huge
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  indicator. And when I think about the live
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  exercises, the exercises that are a drill, but
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  then the drill goes live, then I go
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  to Boston bombing and things like that where
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  you have over the loudspeaker, you hear you
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  can hear
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  the guy on the loudspeaker saying this is
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  a drill, this is a drill over and
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  over again, right? So
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  we're not conspiracy theorists, we're conspiracy analysts. We're
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  analyzing actual conspiracies that are happening all the
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  time and this is one of them And
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  when the 4th PSYOP group
• 17:40
  of the Army's
• 17:41
  psych warfare unit decides that they're going to
• 17:44
  run an ad saying that we're everywhere and
• 17:47
  all the world's a stage, well, when events
• 17:50
  like this kick off and they have
• 17:52
  fingerprints
• 17:53
  of this group all over it, it's reasonable
• 17:56
  for us to ask the question, was this
• 17:58
  one of the events that they told us
• 18:01
  was coming? Right. Right. Good breakdown. And
• 18:04
  it's really not even that complicated.
• 18:07
  The
• 18:08
  problem I find usually is just skepticism
• 18:10
  of the system.
• 18:12
  There's those who are skeptical. There's those who
• 18:14
  aren't. And those who aren't, don't ask any
• 18:15
  questions. But if you are skeptical
• 18:18
  of the news coverage and these kinds of
• 18:20
  events,
• 18:21
  the pieces are not that hard to put
• 18:23
  together. I mean, as you're saying, they basically
• 18:25
  put out an advertisement
• 18:27
  that's like,
• 18:28
  we do these kinds of things. And then
• 18:30
  these things happen, and you don't apply it
• 18:31
  to the individual event.
• 18:33
  It's all right there. And I don't think
• 18:35
  we need to go as deep on the
• 18:36
  Cybertruck story, but the major thing
• 18:39
  we should talk about is the manifesto that
• 18:41
  apparently says all the drones over the East
• 18:44
  Coast are China's anti gravity drones that can
• 18:47
  attack anyone, any place. I just talked to
• 18:49
  another guy about this. It's funny that the
• 18:52
  subreddit for UFOs
• 18:54
  was all about the Cybertruck conspiracy event, and
• 18:57
  then the conspiracy subreddit was all about the
• 19:00
  potential of UFOs. It's like the wires got
• 19:02
  crossed, and those groups are usually pretty separate.
• 19:05
  Not around here, but, you know, on Reddit,
• 19:07
  they're kind of separate.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:09
  this manifesto
• 19:10
  was apparently
• 19:11
  sent to Sam Shumate, who allegedly previously faked
• 19:15
  some emails about Ukraine funding, so
• 19:17
  his track record isn't exactly great. So they
• 19:20
  say, you know, this is 3rd hand. I'm
• 19:22
  not saying anything here. I'm just reading. And,
• 19:25
  he goes on the Sean Ryan show to
• 19:27
  talk about it, and the FBI comes out
• 19:28
  and says, yes. We have reason to believe
• 19:30
  that manifesto is genuine and legitimate,
• 19:34
  which is really odd for them to do
• 19:35
  because they never confirm
• 19:37
  anything,
• 19:38
  especially, like, front loading a podcast appearance. Like,
• 19:41
  hey. We gotta get out there and make
• 19:43
  our announcement that this thing is gonna be
• 19:45
  genuine.
• 19:46
  I don't know. Just something seems off with
• 19:48
  that whole manifesto
• 19:50
  story and
• 19:51
  the Sean Ryan
• 19:53
  reveal.
• 19:54
  What do you think? Did you look into
• 19:55
  this thread at all? Well, I was looking
• 19:58
  into the guy himself, Matthew Littlesburger,
• 20:00
  the guy who apparently was involved in this.
• 20:03
  He's a noncommissioned officer in the Army Special
• 20:06
  Forces. He served in Afghanistan
• 20:08
  at the same time
• 20:10
  as
• 20:11
  Shamsudin
• 20:12
  Jabbar, the guy from New Orleans. So this
• 20:15
  is Littlesberger's
• 20:16
  track record.
• 20:18
  He was in Afghanistan from
• 20:20
  2,008 to 2010.
• 20:22
  He was in the Congo
• 20:24
  in 2014.
• 20:25
  He was in Ukraine in 2016. Tajikistan
• 20:29
  in the tail end of 2016.
• 20:31
  He went back to Afghanistan for 2 years
• 20:33
  from 2017 to 2019. He was in the
• 20:36
  country of Georgia in 2021.
• 20:38
  And then he was in Las Vegas in
• 20:41
  2025
• 20:41
  on approved leave, which
• 20:43
  I get, you know, I mean, he's it
• 20:45
  the sheep dip, Tim McVay sort of nature
• 20:49
  comes to mind when I think about some
• 20:50
  of this. So
• 20:52
  this is a guy who spent quite a
• 20:54
  bit of time in some
• 20:56
  dangerous places,
• 20:58
  as you do when you're Special Forces,
• 21:01
  it's tempting to think, well, he would know.
• 21:03
  Right? I mean, if anyone would know about
• 21:05
  these sort of weird technologies, it would be
• 21:07
  some guy who's in the Special Forces. But
• 21:09
  when you start saying it's China,
• 21:12
  you know, I go, well, that feels like
• 21:14
  misdirection to me.
• 21:16
  Maybe there are drones and maybe there are
• 21:18
  things that can do what he's talking about.
• 21:21
  But
• 21:22
  when they start saying, well, it's China and
• 21:24
  it's been here for a while,
• 21:25
  first of all, it feels like they're trying
• 21:26
  to demonize China, which I'm not saying that
• 21:29
  China isn't up to no good. I'm sure
• 21:30
  they're doing everything they can to try and
• 21:34
  subvert us to the extent that they could.
• 21:36
  And if they had drones like that, would
• 21:37
  they park them off the East Coast? I
• 21:39
  don't know. Maybe.
• 21:40
  But I just don't think that a manifesto
• 21:44
  from a sketchy guy who has special forces
• 21:46
  in Fort Bragg's ties
• 21:48
  is going to be enough for me to
• 21:50
  say, well, you know, let's take that one
• 21:52
  to the bank. I mean,
• 21:54
  sounds reasonable to me, and especially with the
• 21:56
  guys' I'm gonna go on Sean Ryan's podcast.
• 21:58
  You know, he's ex CIA.
• 22:00
  But in my book, ex CIA,
• 22:02
  always CIA.
• 22:03
  You don't leave the agency.
• 22:06
  Not unless you're going to work in some
• 22:08
  other capacity, which is, I left the CIA,
• 22:11
  and now I'm gonna start this podcast. Hey,
• 22:13
  does his YouTube podcast get
• 22:16
  demonetized
• 22:17
  and strikes like ours? Did we sign up
• 22:20
  for the wrong YouTube channel when we set
• 22:22
  up ours? Because he seems to have no
• 22:24
  problem talking about all these things. But you
• 22:26
  and I, boy, I mean,
• 22:28
  I don't even have a YouTube channel anymore
• 22:30
  because I was shown just exactly how much
• 22:33
  they appreciated my content. And now all of
• 22:35
  a sudden it's got the CIA stamp of
• 22:37
  approval on it. I don't know. Color me
• 22:39
  a bit suspicious on this one. Right. Right.
• 22:42
  And I really think
• 22:44
  this kind of stuff is a little thorny
• 22:45
  because there's people who make the claim that
• 22:48
  if you're above a certain level, then you're
• 22:49
  clearly compromised, and they'll loop me into that
• 22:52
  kind of group. And I'm like, I don't
• 22:54
  know. There's a very big difference between
• 22:56
  someone who's never been able to monetize on
• 22:59
  YouTube, has a 100,000
• 23:00
  subscribers, sure, but can't get 500 views on
• 23:03
  a video. It's just, like, clearly, it's algorithmically
• 23:06
  suppressed. And I don't care. YouTube can do
• 23:08
  what they want. I try to play outside
• 23:10
  of their pool.
• 23:11
  But there's definitely a difference between someone who
• 23:15
  has kind of an unnatural
• 23:17
  rise,
• 23:18
  all their guests are kinda connected.
• 23:21
  It's an ex CIA guy who is interviewing
• 23:23
  ex CIA guys and military op guys who
• 23:26
  are coming on the show to reveal the
• 23:28
  big secrets.
• 23:29
  It's like, I don't know. That's not super
• 23:32
  genuine. Also, someone who does the interviews in
• 23:34
  person,
• 23:35
  like, if you really think out the logistics
• 23:37
  of that,
• 23:38
  every week, you have someone sitting down with
• 23:40
  you in person that you've flown out from
• 23:42
  like, it requires a pretty big infrastructure
• 23:45
  to do that kind of thing. I'm always
• 23:47
  skeptical of the in person
• 23:49
  shows and just the
• 23:51
  team that has to put all that together
• 23:53
  because it's just it doesn't really work that
• 23:55
  way.
• 23:56
  And I have nothing against Sean Ryan exactly.
• 23:59
  I just find, like, you know, my
• 24:03
  sketchy barometer goes off, you know. And like
• 24:05
  I said, people say that about me, so
• 24:07
  I don't like to levy the same criticism
• 24:10
  at other people, but I'm also trying to
• 24:11
  back up my point a little bit more
• 24:13
  and show the difference.
• 24:15
  But Sean Ryan, when this happened, he first
• 24:17
  said he and his family were gonna go
• 24:19
  into hiding over the reveal, and then he
• 24:21
  posted this. He said, over the past few
• 24:23
  days, something's become very apparent to me. Everyone
• 24:26
  claims to want truth, transparency, and disclosure unless
• 24:29
  they aren't a part of it. And then
• 24:32
  if they're not a part of it, they'll
• 24:33
  stop at nothing to try to destroy everything
• 24:35
  you've ever done. No matter how good or
• 24:37
  how much truth, their ego will consume their
• 24:40
  entire mind
• 24:41
  and, eventually, their entire existence. Humanity is in
• 24:45
  a sad state.
• 24:46
  And I'm just like, boo hoo, dude. I
• 24:48
  mean, it sounds like gaslighting 101. This isn't
• 24:51
  a jealousy thing. I'm doing fine.
• 24:54
  It's all the things I mentioned, the unnatural
• 24:57
  growth, doing everything in person, putting in your
• 24:59
  Twitter profile that you are ex CIA.
• 25:02
  I mean, if you are a former
• 25:04
  CIA contractor,
• 25:06
  then you should be the first one to
• 25:08
  know about psyops and media infiltration. Is this
• 25:11
  mockingbird
• 25:12
  media in the podcasting space? Because you shouldn't
• 25:15
  be
• 25:16
  surprised of anyone's skepticism
• 25:18
  if you're saying, hey. I'm part of the
• 25:21
  machine sometimes, one foot in, one foot out.
• 25:24
  Like,
• 25:25
  why are you surprised? People are skeptical.
• 25:28
  He should not be surprised. I don't know
• 25:30
  that he truly is surprised that people are
• 25:33
  skeptical. I mean, you can't be in that
• 25:36
  world and then leave it and then say,
• 25:38
  Oh, I've left all that behind. Well, the
• 25:40
  amount of resources that's required to get you
• 25:43
  into the CIA,
• 25:45
  they spend the money on training you, put
• 25:47
  you through an entire
• 25:48
  career.
• 25:50
  There are very few people, maybe Ray McGovern,
• 25:53
  I don't know, maybe there's very few people
• 25:54
  that I can find, like, that used to
• 25:56
  be in the CIA that I would listen
• 25:58
  to in terms of what they have to
• 26:00
  say. No.
• 26:01
  On the one hand, they're in a position
• 26:03
  to know things that other people wouldn't know.
• 26:05
  I get that.
• 26:06
  But when you're doing 90% truth, 10% bullshit,
• 26:10
  then that's all you need to skew a
• 26:12
  story into I mean, what if the manifesto
• 26:15
  or the email that the guy wrote about
• 26:17
  drones off of the East Coast of the
• 26:19
  USA,
• 26:20
  what if all of that was true
• 26:23
  except the China part? And it was only
• 26:25
  one lie in a sea of other information.
• 26:28
  And instead of China, it was actually, I
• 26:30
  don't know, Israel or Pakistan or whoever. Right?
• 26:34
  That would make all the difference in the
• 26:36
  world. So you can give everybody
• 26:38
  a ton of truth and throw one
• 26:41
  tiny error in it, one
• 26:43
  slight
• 26:44
  misdirection in there, and it skews everything. And
• 26:46
  these people are taught that they're trained how
• 26:49
  to lie. Mike Pompeo bragged about when we
• 26:52
  go through school at the CIA, they teach
• 26:54
  you how to lie.
• 26:56
  So this goes to what David Icke is
• 26:58
  talking about, the mainstream alternative media,
• 27:00
  this new segment that's popped up. And you
• 27:03
  look at the mainstream media with MSNBC and
• 27:05
  CNN,
• 27:06
  and their ratings are in the toilet after
• 27:09
  this election.
• 27:10
  And the gaslighting from them has been
• 27:13
  astronomical over the last 4 years with COVID
• 27:15
  and the Biden administration and all of that.
• 27:17
  I mean, I don't know why anybody turns
• 27:20
  on the television any longer and gets their
• 27:22
  news there. And I think that there's a
• 27:23
  calculation that's been made by these intelligence agencies
• 27:26
  that say, all right, we can't run
• 27:29
  Operation Mockingbird
• 27:31
  on television like we used to, but doesn't
• 27:33
  mean we can't run it in the podcast
• 27:35
  world in some sort of newfangled
• 27:38
  version where we then
• 27:40
  influence these shows or we allow these shows
• 27:43
  to grow or we sprinkle magic dust on
• 27:45
  these shows and they magically get a 100,000
• 27:48
  viewers
• 27:49
  within their 1st year, which is completely
• 27:52
  antithetical to anybody who's ever grown a podcast
• 27:54
  knows that that's just not possible unless it's
• 27:57
  being made to happen. So
• 27:59
  I'm really think of it the way you
• 28:01
  put it, which is the live shows. But,
• 28:02
  yeah, the live shows. I mean, the sort
• 28:04
  of
• 28:06
  budget that needs to happen and infrastructure
• 28:09
  and planning and sorting and all of that.
• 28:10
  I mean, we do that on our shows,
• 28:12
  and we understand what goes into that. But
• 28:14
  to fly people in all the time, well,
• 28:17
  you have to have money to do that,
• 28:18
  and your sponsors aren't gonna just give you
• 28:20
  money before your show is successful unless you're
• 28:23
  being made to succeed because of it. And
• 28:26
  so
• 28:27
  I think it's the new area that people
• 28:29
  need to keep their eyes on is this
• 28:30
  mainstream alternative media, and you've gotta make sure
• 28:33
  that the people that you're watching or listening
• 28:36
  to, you have to almost kind of dig
• 28:38
  into where they get their money. Of course,
• 28:39
  we saw this in the last 6 months
• 28:41
  with the Tim Pool situation
• 28:43
  and the Bennie Johnson and all this. It's
• 28:45
  like, well, we were getting money from Tenet
• 28:47
  Media, and we didn't know where that money
• 28:49
  was coming from and we didn't maybe do
• 28:51
  the best job digging into
• 28:53
  where it's coming from. And, you know, a
• 28:55
  case can be made that, Oh, you know,
• 28:57
  Hey, listen, they didn't have to pay me
• 28:59
  for my opinions. These are my opinions
• 29:02
  regardless.
• 29:03
  They happen to be paying me.
• 29:05
  And you might think that these are my
• 29:06
  opinions that I'm being bought, but in actuality,
• 29:09
  I feel this way regardless. I might as
• 29:11
  well take the money because, you know, I
• 29:13
  can understand how they would justify that to
• 29:16
  themselves, right? But the minute your audience starts
• 29:19
  to think that you might be compromised,
• 29:22
  oh,
• 29:23
  that's just just too hard. And it's so
• 29:25
  difficult to recover from that. I think your
• 29:27
  credibility is is everything. And I don't know
• 29:29
  that it would be worth it if you
• 29:31
  were an authentic person that was genuinely trying
• 29:34
  to do the best job you could with
• 29:36
  your show. I don't know
• 29:39
  how you can play that game
• 29:41
  and take money from those big corporations
• 29:44
  and not expect
• 29:46
  even if you don't get
• 29:47
  pressure from them, how do you not expect
• 29:49
  your audience to just assume that you're getting
• 29:52
  pressure from them? Right. Because they're giving you
• 29:54
  money after all. So the money in that
• 29:57
  side of things
• 29:58
  can skew it.
• 30:00
  And we, as content creators, are always extremely
• 30:03
  concerned and aware of our reputation because it's
• 30:06
  the most valuable thing we have. And if
• 30:08
  somebody wants to come in and offer you
• 30:10
  a bunch of money,
• 30:11
  my initial response would be to be very
• 30:14
  suspicious of that. Yes. Yes. And you can
• 30:17
  even look at, like, Ben Shapiro's company. You
• 30:19
  might consider that part of the mainstream alternative
• 30:22
  media.
• 30:23
  It's like, well, there's big money behind that
• 30:25
  for sure, and, of course, they will criticize
• 30:28
  everyone but Israel. And it's like Israel deserves
• 30:31
  a little bit of criticism these days for
• 30:33
  sure.
• 30:34
  So sometimes it is about just protecting one
• 30:37
  group. It's like, no. Go ahead. Talk truth
• 30:39
  about, you say, 90 and 10. Talk truth
• 30:42
  about so many things to build the credibility,
• 30:44
  but on this one thing, you never go
• 30:46
  there. And that's kind of
• 30:48
  how a lot of these things operate. And
• 30:50
  it's not even about the money.
• 30:52
  I mean, it is partly about the money
• 30:53
  of flying people in for in person interviews,
• 30:55
  but it's, like, people who are good interviews,
• 30:58
  people who you want to interview, they're busy
• 31:00
  people. They have lives. They aren't gonna just
• 31:04
  take 2 days out of their life to
• 31:06
  come fly to where you are to do
• 31:08
  a couple hour interview. I struggle sometimes to
• 31:11
  get people to do 2 hours because they're
• 31:12
  like, I can do a bunch of podcasts
• 31:14
  in only 1 an hour from me. And
• 31:16
  it's like, yeah. I mean, I'm just asking
• 31:17
  you to get on Zoom.
• 31:19
  It's just one of those things. Like,
• 31:21
  every week on a schedule, you just have
• 31:23
  people who fly to you. It's like it
• 31:25
  seems like a machine. It seems like a
• 31:28
  I don't wanna say propaganda machine, but I'm
• 31:30
  saying propaganda machine.
• 31:31
  It seems that way.
• 31:33
  Nobody's gonna convince me that people get on
• 31:35
  an airplane to go have a conversation with
• 31:37
  Lex Fridman because he's interesting to talk to.
• 31:40
  The guy will put you to sleep. Shots
• 31:41
  fired.
• 31:42
  The fact that that guy has a podcast
• 31:44
  that is automatically suggested to me every time
• 31:47
  I open up YouTube for some reason, even
• 31:49
  though I don't watch it, makes me a
• 31:50
  little bit suspicious. And and again, I can
• 31:52
  understand how some people would say, well, you
• 31:54
  guys are just jealous of this. No. I
• 31:56
  would love to have
• 31:58
  the sort of viewership numbers, but I'm not
• 32:00
  willing to do the kinds of things that
• 32:02
  you need to do in order to get
• 32:04
  that. I just can't do it. I wouldn't
• 32:06
  feel good about myself.
• 32:07
  And if YouTube all of a sudden took
• 32:10
  a real interest in me and wanted to
• 32:11
  promote my show, man, I would be extremely
• 32:13
  suspicious of that as well because they've spent
• 32:15
  the last 8 years telling us that they
• 32:18
  hate us and they don't want our content
• 32:19
  there and they wanna ban us for certain
• 32:22
  words. And yet you view that unbalanced
• 32:25
  situation
• 32:26
  and you go, well, why is that guy
• 32:28
  allowed to say it? Well, you know, he's
• 32:30
  a trusted source. Well, is that because he
• 32:33
  has connections that are valuable to YouTube to
• 32:37
  keep in play? Is it I mean, YouTube
• 32:39
  is obviously
• 32:40
  Google, and Google is a military contractor
• 32:44
  and we understand
• 32:45
  the role of Silicon Valley
• 32:47
  and the military and how these
• 32:50
  platforms have come to be. We understand the
• 32:52
  origin story of Facebook. We know that it
• 32:55
  was a CIA
• 32:57
  In Q Tel project that went live, so
• 32:59
  I don't know why we would ever really
• 33:01
  be truly
• 33:02
  surprised that we're being suppressed when you've got
• 33:05
  a platform like Facebook that will throw you
• 33:07
  off there if you question
• 33:09
  ivermectin or vaccines or Israel or Sandy Hook
• 33:13
  or whatever. I mean, you name the polarizing
• 33:15
  topic, if you start to cover it, you'll
• 33:17
  get dinged. Let me rephrase that. If you
• 33:19
  start to cover it too early, you'll get
• 33:22
  dinged. But then there becomes
• 33:24
  a time at which a couple years down
• 33:26
  the road, then the topic is safe for
• 33:29
  discussion, then Tucker Carlson can talk about, then
• 33:31
  somebody else who's a little bit more mainstream,
• 33:33
  they can all of a sudden start to
• 33:34
  have a conversation. You know what? Ivermectin. I
• 33:36
  have questions about Ivermectin. It's like, shit, we
• 33:38
  had questions about it in 2020. You wouldn't
• 33:40
  let us have the conversation.
• 33:42
  You shut us down, and now all of
• 33:43
  a sudden Tucker Carlson can have that con
• 33:45
  I mean, good. I'm glad that you're finally
• 33:48
  talking about it for what it's worth. It's
• 33:50
  a little late,
• 33:52
  but I'm glad you're talking about it in
• 33:53
  general. But can we do this moving forward
• 33:56
  where you're not stomping on us because we're
• 33:59
  early? And when you're early, you always look
• 34:00
  crazy. You know how that is. When you
• 34:02
  start talking about these things
• 34:04
  18 months before everybody else,
• 34:07
  They wanna fit you for a straight jacket,
• 34:09
  but then, you know, a year or 2
• 34:11
  goes by and it's starting to
• 34:13
  get mainstream traction and all of a sudden
• 34:16
  you're waiting for the apologies that will never
• 34:18
  come.
• 34:19
  Yeah. Good points. And mainstream alternative media is
• 34:22
  just a great term, and why wouldn't it
• 34:24
  be there? The old media system is collapsing.
• 34:27
  You have to come in with something else.
• 34:29
  And I don't want this to sound like
• 34:30
  a pity party for us, but it's just,
• 34:32
  like, pay attention to
• 34:34
  who gets thrown right at the top of
• 34:36
  the pile
• 34:37
  routinely and their production value and
• 34:40
  the things they say. That's all. But
• 34:42
  moving on, you know, talking about what happened
• 34:45
  on New Year's, that's
• 34:46
  might as well
• 34:48
  be ancient history at this point. I mean,
• 34:50
  we're 10 days into a New Year. Things
• 34:52
  are happening so fast. That is yesterday's news.
• 34:55
  Today's news is all about the LA fires.
• 34:58
  Obviously, I lived in California for a decade.
• 35:01
  There are fires every year, and the news
• 35:03
  is really great about making it seem like
• 35:05
  the whole area is just completely destroyed
• 35:08
  when it's really a lot more spotty than
• 35:10
  it's presented.
• 35:11
  And I just know this from friends and
• 35:13
  family who didn't live in California, always calling
• 35:16
  me every year, like, are you okay? Are
• 35:17
  you okay? And it's like, yeah. I'm okay
• 35:20
  for, like, a 50 mile radius. Maybe there's
• 35:22
  just more land out here than you think.
• 35:25
  But this one does seem
• 35:27
  a little bit different. I mean, man, the
• 35:30
  things I see from a bird's eye view,
• 35:32
  maybe it's because I'm seeing it through the
• 35:34
  media lens for the first time rather than
• 35:36
  being present,
• 35:38
  but it seems different in terms of size
• 35:40
  and scope. What are your thoughts?
• 35:42
  I lived in California for 30 years. I
• 35:44
  was born there. My best friend lost his
• 35:47
  house in Pacific Palisades.
• 35:49
  He was so proud. I feel like I
• 35:51
  wanted to throw up when I was
• 35:54
  texting him. Are you okay? Is it gonna
• 35:56
  miss you? And he said, it's gone. I
• 35:58
  said, oh, it's gone past you? Are you
• 36:00
  okay? Are you out of the line of
• 36:01
  fire? He said, no, no, no. Everything good
• 36:03
  is gone.
• 36:04
  I lost my house, and I said, oh
• 36:06
  my god.
• 36:07
  Another friend of mine who I'd grown up
• 36:08
  with, she lost her house.
• 36:11
  My wife's college friend lost their house. I
• 36:13
  mean, this is happening all over the place
• 36:16
  in Los Angeles. For those that aren't familiar
• 36:18
  with the area, I mean, where Pacific Palisades
• 36:21
  is, it's sort of in between
• 36:23
  Santa Monica
• 36:24
  and Malibu.
• 36:26
  It's a beautiful place. It's in the canyons.
• 36:27
  Part of the reason why people with a
• 36:29
  lot of money want to live there is
• 36:31
  because the topography is amazing, you know? You
• 36:34
  you get changes in elevations and it's a
• 36:36
  really
• 36:37
  interesting neighborhood and,
• 36:39
  yeah, there's a lot
• 36:40
  of celebrities that live there and I think
• 36:42
  that gets most of the headlines, but it's
• 36:43
  mostly just working people people that have worked
• 36:46
  and done really well and want to live
• 36:48
  in a place that's beautiful and convenient for
• 36:50
  them. And,
• 36:52
  you know, we saw the Maui fires and
• 36:54
  what happened there.
• 36:56
  And it's a combination of
• 36:59
  government
• 37:00
  well, I don't even want to call it
• 37:01
  incompetence. It's malice,
• 37:04
  because it's more intentional.
• 37:05
  Decisions that get made by these officials
• 37:09
  talking about
• 37:10
  where the water goes. I mean, if we
• 37:11
  remember, Maui, they turned on the hydrants and
• 37:14
  nothing came out either. So
• 37:16
  the water gets cut off, political decisions, at
• 37:19
  least in California, some of the decisions were
• 37:21
  made with what they did with the rainwater
• 37:23
  and they didn't fill the reservoirs because there's
• 37:26
  an endangered fish that likes when it's half
• 37:30
  saltwater and half freshwater and it lives in
• 37:32
  this. They're like, Oh, my God.
• 37:34
  Who cares about the fish?
• 37:36
  You're in Southern California, a place that burns
• 37:38
  all the time,
• 37:40
  with PG and E, the electric company who's
• 37:43
  been
• 37:43
  involved in fires,
• 37:46
  the Camp Fire which killed a ton of
• 37:47
  people,
• 37:48
  and others.
• 37:49
  They're always at the forefront of this. Gavin
• 37:51
  Newsom had a crew in his office rewrite
• 37:54
  some legislation to protect them moving forward, of
• 37:57
  course, because why wouldn't you protect the power
• 37:59
  company who's responsible for the deaths of, I
• 38:02
  think, 80 people in the Camp Fire?
• 38:04
  Yeah. Well, let's not
• 38:06
  increase our spend on fire mitigation. Let's protect
• 38:09
  Pacific Gas and Electric because, you know, they
• 38:11
  contribute to my campaign, and so we've got
• 38:13
  to take care of them first. So there's
• 38:15
  decisions that are made on a state level,
• 38:18
  on a local level,
• 38:20
  and there's incompetence that's almost sort of baked
• 38:23
  into the equation.
• 38:25
  When you've got Karen Bass running in L.
• 38:28
  A. And when you've got Gavin Newsom running
• 38:30
  California,
• 38:31
  these people are
• 38:33
  terrible at their job to the point where
• 38:35
  you have to ask the question, are they
• 38:37
  there
• 38:38
  because they're terrible at their job?
• 38:41
  It can't be based on
• 38:42
  merit, because if it was on merit, you'd
• 38:45
  find anybody else.
• 38:46
  But it seems that they want the worst
• 38:49
  people there. They want the most unqualified
• 38:51
  and incompetent people there so that when things
• 38:53
  go wrong and they go wrong all the
• 38:55
  time, whether
• 38:56
  accidentally or
• 38:58
  intentionally, they can then say, well,
• 39:00
  we'll put it on Karen Bass and she'll
• 39:02
  stand in front of that microphone bank and
• 39:04
  people will be firing questions at her. She'll
• 39:06
  stand there like an idiot frozen for 2
• 39:08
  minutes and not say a damn thing to
• 39:10
  anybody.
• 39:11
  You go, these are our elected officials? I
• 39:13
  mean,
• 39:14
  I hope
• 39:15
  that this is a wake up call for
• 39:18
  the people of California in general and Southern
• 39:21
  California in particular.
• 39:23
  Wildfires
• 39:24
  are not
• 39:25
  uncommon.
• 39:26
  Happening in January
• 39:27
  is not normal,
• 39:29
  but wildfires in and of themselves
• 39:31
  have always been part of it. As somebody
• 39:33
  who who lives in Southern California, you just
• 39:36
  sort of plan accordingly for it. You do
• 39:38
  the best you can and put the fire
• 39:39
  breaks in and make sure that you're defended,
• 39:41
  you know, your property is as protected as
• 39:44
  possible. But they cut the budget for that
• 39:47
  stuff. They cut the budget for the fire
• 39:49
  department. They sent a bunch of equipment to
• 39:51
  Ukraine. You know, this is the type of
• 39:53
  things you do when you are running a
• 39:54
  banana republic, not when you're running an actual
• 39:57
  country
• 39:58
  that's trying to put its best foot forward
• 40:00
  in hiring the best and brightest to represent
• 40:02
  the community. No, it's we've got to get
• 40:05
  a black woman to be the mayor of
• 40:07
  Los Angeles because there are so many black
• 40:09
  people in Southern California that we want them
• 40:12
  to feel like they're represented. Okay, fine. That's
• 40:14
  great. I have no problem with that.
• 40:16
  Is she the most qualified?
• 40:18
  Well, no. She's functionally retarded.
• 40:21
  Well, then can we get a different black
• 40:22
  woman in there that I don't even care
• 40:25
  if it makes everybody feel better that she's
• 40:27
  of a particular race and gender or ethnicity
• 40:30
  or handicap or she ticks all the diversity
• 40:32
  boxes.
• 40:34
  Just get somebody in there who actually knows
• 40:36
  what they're doing
• 40:37
  and wants to help people and wants to
• 40:39
  make things better. But I take a look
• 40:40
  at this cast of characters,
• 40:42
  especially in California,
• 40:44
  And you can't tell me
• 40:46
  that they've been put in there because they're
• 40:48
  the best
• 40:49
  they have been put in there because they're
• 40:51
  controllable.
• 40:53
  They won't ask tough questions.
• 40:55
  And when things go wrong, you can count
• 40:57
  on them to fail
• 40:59
  and fail upwards, which is what's happened through
• 41:01
  all of California. I mean,
• 41:03
  we almost got a president of the United
• 41:05
  States who had failed upwards through the chain
• 41:08
  of command in California for 25 years, who
• 41:10
  has nothing on her resume
• 41:12
  except
• 41:13
  one catastrophe after another. And she was
• 41:16
  damn near the president of the United States.
• 41:18
  So unfortunately
• 41:19
  for people like Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom
• 41:22
  and Chesa Bowden, who is the district attorney
• 41:25
  of San Francisco, who implemented the, you know,
• 41:28
  you can steal anything $950
• 41:30
  or less, and it's fine. We're not gonna
• 41:32
  do anything. These people,
• 41:34
  they're not incompetent
• 41:35
  accidentally.
• 41:36
  They're incompetent on purpose. They're there because they're
• 41:40
  broken people.
• 41:41
  Right. And those are great points, and I
• 41:43
  never I can't say I never thought about
• 41:45
  it this way, but maybe not at the
• 41:47
  scale and scope. But the DEI thing just
• 41:50
  being
• 41:51
  like, you have to have a sales pitch.
• 41:53
  You have to
• 41:54
  have a positive way to do something negative
• 41:56
  a lot of the time. So if you're
• 41:58
  trying to exacerbate disasters
• 42:01
  and do something like the title of your
• 42:03
  book, The Controlled Demolition
• 42:05
  of the American Empire,
• 42:06
  when you
• 42:08
  put out an operation or use a weather
• 42:10
  weapon,
• 42:11
  you don't want competent people to shut it
• 42:13
  down quickly.
• 42:14
  You want incompetent people to make the mess
• 42:17
  way worse. And how do you get that?
• 42:19
  Well, you gotta sell it maybe with the
• 42:21
  DEI. It's kinda like the whole immigration thing.
• 42:25
  The news does not separate
• 42:27
  immigrants from illegal immigrants. They just say they're
• 42:30
  migrants and they're refugees,
• 42:32
  and it's like, no. A lot of people
• 42:34
  are totally fine with immigration.
• 42:37
  It's the border being open and the illegal
• 42:39
  immigration that people are not cool with. And
• 42:41
  the fact that you can't separate the 2
• 42:43
  and you try to just paint everyone as
• 42:45
  some racist bigot, I mean, that's telling. And
• 42:48
  you can say that this is kind of
• 42:49
  the same template, the DEI template of getting
• 42:52
  incompetent people into positions of power just to
• 42:55
  make things fall apart faster.
• 42:57
  This one woman,
• 42:59
  she's the LA Department of Water and Power
• 43:01
  CEO,
• 43:02
  Janice
• 43:03
  Quinones.
• 43:04
  She apparently makes 750
• 43:06
  k a year, and when she was asked
• 43:08
  why the water was out, she didn't really
• 43:10
  know. She's not quite sure even though she's
• 43:12
  in charge of the Department of Water.
• 43:14
  Then, yeah, the African mayor, Karen Bass, she's
• 43:18
  in Ghana during all this. It's, like, not
• 43:20
  even present.
• 43:22
  And
• 43:23
  I think we saw it was the police
• 43:24
  chief who was being interviewed, and she won't
• 43:27
  even speak. She's absolutely frozen.
• 43:30
  It's like, wow. I mean, these are the
• 43:32
  people who are in charge of this stuff.
• 43:33
  And just like the barriers not being up
• 43:36
  in New Orleans,
• 43:37
  why are the fire hydrants dry? It's like
• 43:40
  everything is set in place to not be
• 43:42
  able to handle
• 43:44
  the problem when the can is kicked over.
• 43:46
  And it's sad to hear that you know
• 43:48
  so many people who
• 43:49
  have lost their homes.
• 43:51
  My first guest of the year was Maja
• 43:54
  Deo, and she
• 43:56
  emailed me earlier just to say that her
• 43:58
  house is gone.
• 44:00
  I saw posts from our mutual friend, Monica
• 44:03
  Perez.
• 44:04
  It looks like her house is there, but
• 44:06
  the fire was right up on her driveway,
• 44:09
  and her whole neighborhood
• 44:11
  is largely destroyed. And
• 44:13
  even if your house is still standing, there's
• 44:15
  a lot of pieces to pick up. And
• 44:17
  the smoke, you know, people are like, oh,
• 44:19
  don't breathe the smoke. It's like, well, of
• 44:20
  course not. But also,
• 44:22
  these houses are burned to the ground. Think
• 44:24
  about all the plastic and toxic bullshit
• 44:28
  and Styrofoam and just all the nutty stuff
• 44:30
  that are in people's homes, their TVs melting
• 44:33
  and all the chemicals that releases.
• 44:35
  Yeah. You need to get the hell out
• 44:37
  of there.
• 44:38
  What do you think about the weather weapons
• 44:40
  angle? I mean, this always pops up every
• 44:42
  time, but we have seen pictures of houses
• 44:45
  burnt to the ground, trees still standing,
• 44:48
  the blue trash cans sitting there like there's
• 44:50
  nothing wrong with them, and blue was a
• 44:52
  big thing before, like the directed energy weapons
• 44:55
  for some reason.
• 44:56
  Avoid blue things
• 44:58
  strange, like something in the paint, but what
• 45:01
  are your thoughts on some of those ideas
• 45:03
  that this was
• 45:04
  a weather weapon and not just the natural
• 45:06
  thing and then the added incompetence?
• 45:09
  Now that you you mentioned Karen Bass being
• 45:11
  in Ghana when this went down, wasn't the
• 45:13
  governor of Hawaii out of the country as
• 45:16
  well when the Maui fires hit? I think
• 45:17
  he was conveniently
• 45:19
  elsewhere.
• 45:20
  The situation in Maui, first of all, if
• 45:22
  you complied,
• 45:23
  you died.
• 45:25
  If you were somebody trying to escape that
• 45:28
  on the road and the cops were turning
• 45:30
  you around,
• 45:31
  the people that listened to the police and
• 45:33
  went back didn't make it. It's only people
• 45:36
  who disobeyed the orders that were able to
• 45:38
  get out from that road. And of course,
• 45:40
  you dig into it in the aftermath, and
• 45:42
  you go, well, what was going on there?
• 45:43
  We're hearing all these questions of directed energy.
• 45:46
  Is this are we just making something out
• 45:47
  of nothing? Well, in Maui, it's one of
• 45:49
  the 2 directed energy facilities that they're testing
• 45:52
  all of this stuff based there in Maui.
• 45:54
  So it's reasonable to think that. I'm suspicious
• 45:57
  of these I mean, on the one hand,
• 45:59
  Southern California has fires. Right? So it provides
• 46:02
  the cover story needed.
• 46:04
  You could say, well, fires do happen there,
• 46:06
  and you go, oh, yeah. I know. They
• 46:08
  do. I mean, I can't say that they
• 46:09
  don't.
• 46:10
  But when I see the aftermath of a
• 46:13
  row of houses that are all burnt to
• 46:14
  the ground and out in front, right at
• 46:16
  the curb, there's a blue trash can and
• 46:18
  it didn't melt. And I know it's made
• 46:20
  out of plastic because I got a trash
• 46:21
  can, it looks just like that in my
• 46:23
  garage.
• 46:24
  You know, I start to ask questions when
• 46:25
  I see in Maui that certain
• 46:28
  trees were not burning
• 46:30
  and others were burning from the inside. That's
• 46:32
  very suspicious. We saw pictures of that going
• 46:35
  on in Pacific Palisades as well, where trees
• 46:37
  look like they were erupting from inside. They
• 46:40
  were burning on the inside. I don't know
• 46:42
  how that works. I'm not an expert in
• 46:43
  fire. Maybe somebody can set me straight and
• 46:45
  say, Well, that's sort of a normal thing.
• 46:47
  Maybe it is, but
• 46:49
  it's abnormal for it to be happening
• 46:51
  all at the same time in different spots.
• 46:53
  And I know that there's currently somebody that
• 46:56
  got arrested
• 46:58
  last night for arson, who was involved in
• 47:00
  setting some fires. I don't know if that
• 47:02
  is a copycat situation. I don't know if
• 47:04
  that is a plausible deniability, some setup where
• 47:07
  they stick some guy out there and say,
• 47:09
  hey. Light this thing on fire. I'll give
• 47:10
  you a $1,000 if you do it. And
• 47:11
  then he gets caught, and you can say,
• 47:12
  see? It's arson. It's just human beings doing
• 47:16
  stupid things. It's certainly not
• 47:18
  satellites or drones
• 47:20
  or whatever. But we know that technology exists.
• 47:23
  We know that there's drones that spray fire
• 47:26
  because they use them to start back fires,
• 47:28
  legitimate backfires that the fire department is trying
• 47:31
  to start in order to do controlled burns.
• 47:34
  We know that they've used drones,
• 47:36
  flamethrower
• 47:37
  drones that are very scary looking. Now, is
• 47:39
  that something that the fire department uses for
• 47:42
  starting backfires or is it possible that that
• 47:44
  technology can also be owned by somebody else
• 47:47
  who wants to start fires? And cui bono,
• 47:49
  who benefits from this? What's going on?
• 47:52
  I knew a couple months ago
• 47:55
  that State Farm and multiple insurance companies
• 47:59
  had made the calculation that doing business in
• 48:01
  California was no longer
• 48:03
  profitable for them and that they had decided
• 48:05
  they were going to drop coverage for a
• 48:07
  lot of these places in Southern California.
• 48:10
  And
• 48:10
  to me, I didn't actually get suspicious when
• 48:13
  I heard that.
• 48:15
  I actually thought,
• 48:16
  I don't blame them
• 48:18
  if you have to deal with the state
• 48:20
  of California
• 48:21
  and the insurance regulations and everything that comes
• 48:24
  with it. I almost can't blame any company
• 48:26
  for wanting to leave California at this point
• 48:28
  because to do business there is becoming increasingly
• 48:32
  more difficult.
• 48:33
  But
• 48:34
  when I see that it happens
• 48:37
  real fast afterwards, you know, not fire season,
• 48:41
  winter.
• 48:42
  Not that Southern California has a traditional winter
• 48:44
  like everybody else,
• 48:46
  but it's not 95 degrees with Santa Ana
• 48:49
  winds like you get in August. It's winter,
• 48:52
  and we're getting Santa Ana winds there,
• 48:55
  and the timing seems
• 48:56
  off to me. And you couple that with
• 48:59
  the fact that the insurance companies
• 49:01
  pulled out in advance, and you asked the
• 49:03
  question, is that did they know something that
• 49:04
  we didn't know?
• 49:06
  Or did they just think that doing business
• 49:08
  in California was so
• 49:10
  onerous with all of the regulations and restrictions
• 49:13
  that are put on it by these woke
• 49:15
  morons in Sacramento
• 49:17
  that run the state, run it poorly?
• 49:20
  Is this a business calculation or is it
• 49:22
  something more than that?
• 49:24
  Hopefully, we'll figure out
• 49:26
  what's going on. I mean, as of the
• 49:27
  recording of this,
• 49:29
  they're still on fire.
• 49:31
  The fires haven't been put out yet, so
• 49:33
  we're gonna have to do a post mortem
• 49:34
  on this whole event in the aftermath.
• 49:37
  And again, the media will do what it
• 49:39
  always does, which is make a big deal
• 49:40
  out of it right now for a couple
• 49:42
  of days. And as soon as it's over,
• 49:44
  72 hours later, it'll be out of the
• 49:46
  news cycle and they'll be on to something
• 49:47
  else like they are. I mean,
• 49:49
  you don't think that the Maui people are
• 49:51
  all doing fine. They're just not getting coverage
• 49:53
  anymore. So
• 49:55
  the assumption is, well, I don't hear about
• 49:56
  them anymore, so it must everything must be
• 49:59
  sort of sorted out there. Well, it's not
• 50:01
  sorted out. They're all still having major problems.
• 50:04
  And my heart broke for Maui because
• 50:07
  that was such an important place
• 50:09
  for me. It's a place I had been
• 50:11
  going
• 50:12
  as a kid.
• 50:13
  When my dad passed away when I was
• 50:16
  16,
• 50:16
  my mom and I,
• 50:18
  it was obviously rough, and it happened over
• 50:21
  Thanksgiving
• 50:22
  back in 'eighty 8. And when we got
• 50:24
  to Christmas break, my mom said,
• 50:26
  we need to get out of town and
• 50:28
  where do you want to go? And I
• 50:29
  said, well, we've gone to Maui before and
• 50:31
  we really liked it,
• 50:32
  and my dad really liked it, and maybe
• 50:34
  we should go to Maui and lick our
• 50:37
  wounds there for 2 weeks
• 50:39
  and get out of town. And so I
• 50:41
  have an association with Maui there, been going
• 50:43
  back and forth. I spent my 50th birthday.
• 50:45
  We were there. I took my daughter who
• 50:47
  had never been. We were in Lahaina. We
• 50:49
  did all the shopping. We had dinner at
• 50:51
  Kimo's and did the things that you do
• 50:53
  when you go there and it's such a
• 50:54
  fantastic place. And then a couple of months
• 50:56
  later, that happened. And, you know, if it's
• 50:58
  an authentic organic sort of fire that just
• 51:01
  kind of broke out and everything, that that
• 51:03
  would be one thing. But given our level
• 51:05
  of understanding about what's really going on and
• 51:07
  you find that this is being done intentionally
• 51:10
  and you have questions about smart cities and
• 51:13
  my heart breaks for all those people that
• 51:15
  were affected by it, but through no fault
• 51:17
  of their own. And I wonder if they're
• 51:19
  going
• 51:20
  to you know, I wonder if the people
• 51:21
  of Southern California are going to wake up
• 51:23
  after this and say, you know, we have
• 51:24
  allowed incompetent
• 51:25
  leadership to take a hold of our state
• 51:28
  and run it into the ground.
• 51:30
  And even if you take out the directed
• 51:32
  energy component,
• 51:33
  even if you've set that off to the
• 51:35
  side,
• 51:36
  just the fire mitigation
• 51:38
  component that could have easily been put in
• 51:40
  place and should have been in place and
• 51:41
  was in place and Gavin Newsom withdrew it
• 51:45
  and made it so
• 51:46
  these areas were more susceptible
• 51:49
  to fire risk.
• 51:51
  That is a crime.
• 51:52
  And so even if these victims never
• 51:55
  connect all the dots, even if they just
• 51:58
  connect one dot, which is government incompetence or
• 52:02
  maliciousness, however you want to frame it, was
• 52:04
  responsible for setting the stage for something like
• 52:07
  this where it could happen or could accelerate
• 52:10
  that in and of itself should be enough
• 52:12
  to get people to start thinking about the
• 52:14
  representative
• 52:15
  officials in a different way. But of course,
• 52:17
  in Southern California, maybe not. Maybe after being
• 52:20
  a blue state for all these years,
• 52:23
  they're just resigned to their fate that they're
• 52:25
  gonna have Democratic leadership in there. And I'm
• 52:28
  no Republican either, but Democratic leadership who's focusing
• 52:32
  on what gender the fire truck is rather
• 52:35
  than making sure that there are fire trucks
• 52:37
  there on the scene.
• 52:38
  Right.
• 52:39
  And, again, it's like if the system wasn't
• 52:42
  always lying to us about everything, we wouldn't
• 52:44
  have to jump to conclusions. We wouldn't have
• 52:46
  to be immediately skeptical if they didn't have
• 52:48
  this climate change
• 52:50
  program that they're trying to jam down our
• 52:52
  throats when they're lying about things, we wouldn't
• 52:55
  have to connect the dots and say, well,
• 52:57
  this seems like it kinda fits with the
• 53:00
  picture you're trying to paint, the picture you're
• 53:02
  trying really hard to paint that isn't naturally
• 53:04
  coming together for you. Seems like this might
• 53:07
  be part of it, but
• 53:08
  we're going a little over. I love talking
• 53:11
  to you. Before we go, we gotta talk
• 53:13
  about why we do the dance and do
• 53:15
  the promotion stuff.
• 53:17
  So you got activist post now. You got
• 53:19
  natural Blaze.
• 53:20
  We could all use trusted information sources outside
• 53:24
  of the social media firehose and the mainstream
• 53:27
  media and the alternative mainstream media.
• 53:30
  Talk to people about these websites, other things
• 53:33
  you got going on. Give them the anarcho
• 53:35
  poco pitch. I mean, the list is long.
• 53:37
  You're an active guy.
• 53:39
  I have created a ton of work for
• 53:41
  myself. That is true.
• 53:43
  Activist post was just one of those synchronistic
• 53:46
  type things. I got an email from the
• 53:48
  owners in July 2024,
• 53:50
  saying we've been doing this for 15 years,
• 53:52
  and we're ready to transition into something else.
• 53:54
  But we've built these great platforms,
• 53:57
  activist post, natural Blaze, and we don't want
• 54:00
  them to go away, we would love for
• 54:02
  somebody who's ideologically aligned with us to
• 54:05
  carry on
• 54:06
  the work, would you be interested? And I
• 54:08
  said, No.
• 54:10
  And then I waited about
• 54:12
  48 hours. And then I thought, you know,
• 54:16
  when the universe presents you with an opportunity,
• 54:19
  sometimes your job is to act on it.
• 54:21
  I thought about it. I thought I can't
• 54:23
  afford not to do it. Activist post has
• 54:25
  been an important part of my life.
• 54:27
  I've been reading them for 10 years,
• 54:30
  and I thought
• 54:31
  I could do this.
• 54:33
  So we made the decision, I agreed to
• 54:35
  buy the company. And one of the things
• 54:37
  that I wanted to do is rebuild the
• 54:38
  website,
• 54:39
  been in existence for 15 years, kind of
• 54:42
  an older site, wanted the new one to
• 54:44
  work really well on mobile and to be
• 54:46
  secure because everybody's on their phone. So it
• 54:49
  flies on mobile.
• 54:50
  But I didn't build an app, didn't want
• 54:52
  to centralize control into an app store in
• 54:54
  either the Apple ecosystem or Google. Too easy
• 54:57
  for them to say no to it. I
• 54:59
  watched that happen with Zero Hedge. And so
• 55:01
  if anyone's interested, they can bookmark activist posts
• 55:03
  on their phone and just get to it
• 55:05
  that way. So there's not gonna be an
• 55:06
  app. That's not because I don't wanna build
• 55:08
  one for convenience. It's because I don't wanna
• 55:10
  build one because it's too easy to centralize
• 55:12
  the censorship into that. So
• 55:15
  it launched January 1st. I'm the new editor
• 55:17
  over there. I get to curate the content
• 55:19
  and pick the articles that I think are
• 55:21
  important.
• 55:22
  We've got 8 categories there. One of the
• 55:24
  categories I thought was extremely important is solutions.
• 55:27
  We do a good job of complaining about
• 55:30
  the problems out there. But if we don't
• 55:31
  offer solutions, what good are we, you know?
• 55:33
  So
• 55:34
  that's part of it that I wanted to
• 55:35
  make sure that people had an opportunity to
• 55:37
  go there and not just read about some
• 55:38
  of the dire things that are happening worldwide,
• 55:40
  but also
• 55:42
  have a path towards getting themselves out of
• 55:44
  the system to the extent that they can.
• 55:46
  And part of that also,
• 55:48
  you know, it fits with the overall all
• 55:50
  the work I'm doing, albeit in Mexico and
• 55:52
  Acapulco,
• 55:54
  middle of February for Anarcapulco,
• 55:56
  the 11th
• 55:57
  annual largest anarchist conference in the world that
• 56:00
  happens every year in Acapulco, Mexico. It's fantastic.
• 56:02
  It's 5 days. Every day is a different
• 56:04
  topic. Day 1, fuck the government. Day 2,
• 56:06
  health and wellness. Day 3,
• 56:08
  crypto. Day 4, sovereign skills. You know, I
• 56:11
  watched an amazing presentation about ancient
• 56:15
  trees when I'm done emceeing. And I go
• 56:17
  sit in the stands with my notebook and
• 56:19
  just take notes, and I get to meet
• 56:21
  everybody that's there, all the speakers. It's a
• 56:23
  fantastic place. I really encourage people
• 56:25
  if you've got the opportunity
• 56:27
  to get there in the next couple weeks,
• 56:30
  you should go I mean, listen, there's worse
• 56:31
  places to be than Mexico in February. It's
• 56:34
  beautiful there.
• 56:35
  But more so than that, it's very inspiring.
• 56:38
  You're around people that are actually doing things
• 56:40
  that aren't
• 56:41
  just complaining, but they're actually building outside of
• 56:43
  the system. They're not interested in fixing the
• 56:45
  current system. By the way, they have no
• 56:47
  interest in doing that. What they're doing is
• 56:49
  they're building parallel systems that are outside of
• 56:52
  it.
• 56:53
  So if you want to get connected with
• 56:55
  people, it's very international in scope. If you
• 56:57
  can make it, go. If you can't, you
• 56:59
  can stream it, and you can watch it
• 57:01
  from home. And it's like the all star
• 57:04
  weekend, you know, of the alternative media, everybody's
• 57:07
  there. I had
• 57:08
  one of the coolest experiences last year
• 57:11
  where we opened the 1st day of it.
• 57:13
  The first interview we did was David Ike.
• 57:15
  He wasn't able to be there in person,
• 57:18
  but I was able to interview him remotely.
• 57:20
  I was on the stage. He was behind
• 57:22
  me on the massive big
• 57:24
  screen. And then I had a live audience
• 57:25
  with all the people and we had asked
• 57:27
  them, get your questions, fill out your questionnaire.
• 57:29
  And so I had all the questions that
• 57:31
  the audience wanted to ask David. So I
• 57:33
  was conducting the interview asking the questions while
• 57:36
  I had my Ike shirt on, my Ikea
• 57:38
  shirt. It's like the Ikea yellow Ikea shirt,
• 57:40
  but it had the Ike logo on it
• 57:41
  instead.
• 57:42
  It was a trip, man. I felt like
• 57:44
  I was having an out of body experience
• 57:45
  because in 2019,
• 57:47
  my first year there,
• 57:50
  I had a chance to sit front row
• 57:51
  and watch David Icke do a 4 hour
• 57:53
  presentation. That was fantastic. And for me to
• 57:55
  go from that position there, and I and
• 57:57
  I met him that during that trip, and
• 57:59
  we've stayed in contact over the years. The
• 58:01
  Icke's have been very good to me. For
• 58:03
  me to then have the opportunity to interview
• 58:05
  him on the stage was a huge thrill
• 58:07
  for me. So this year, we've got Gareth
• 58:09
  Eich will be out there, and there's a
• 58:11
  whole lot of characters. I encourage people to
• 58:12
  go to anarkopulco.com
• 58:15
  and see what you think. And if you
• 58:16
  find something that you like, if you're interested
• 58:18
  in going, use the discount code macro. That'll
• 58:21
  save you some money.
• 58:22
  But come on out and enjoy it during
• 58:24
  the day. And then at night, we'll go
• 58:25
  to Max Egan's bar. He's got a Casa
• 58:27
  de los Cuervos right down the street, the
• 58:29
  crow house. It's where everyone goes at night.
• 58:32
  You can sit out there. They got live
• 58:33
  music. You can have a beer, smoke a
• 58:35
  joint out in the patio. Nobody gives a
• 58:37
  shit. It's a fantastic place. It'll renew your
• 58:40
  faith in humanity. I'll tell you that. When
• 58:42
  you get done after that week and you
• 58:43
  get on the plane and you're leaving, you're
• 58:45
  gonna have a network of people that you
• 58:46
  can reach out to, you might even be
• 58:48
  thinking about relocating
• 58:50
  somewhere else.
• 58:51
  And you're gonna restore your faith that there
• 58:53
  are good people out there, very smart people
• 58:56
  that are tired of dealing with the government.
• 58:58
  And they have decided that they're more qualified
• 59:00
  to handle things than they think the government
• 59:02
  is. And so they're building outside of the
• 59:03
  system, and it is very inspiring. So I
• 59:06
  encourage people to go and check it out.
• 59:07
  And of course, macroaggressions,
• 59:09
  the podcast,
• 59:10
  We celebrated
• 59:12
  our 5 hundredth episode.
• 59:14
  I put that out a couple of weeks
• 59:15
  ago. That was an episode that was about
• 59:17
  my mom.
• 59:18
  Had a rough 2024
• 59:19
  with her as I came to Las Vegas
• 59:22
  to be with her for a medical diagnosis,
• 59:24
  which turned into a stage 4 pancreatic cancer
• 59:27
  diagnosis in a 90 day window.
• 59:30
  And so I spent the last 98 days
• 59:33
  of her life with her
• 59:35
  and helped her with that transition. What a
• 59:37
  humbling and amazing
• 59:39
  experience that was. Obviously, very sad.
• 59:42
  But
• 59:43
  we watched funny movies at night. We ate
• 59:45
  ice cream, even though, you know, ice cream
• 59:48
  kind of fuels cancer. But
• 59:50
  when your mom asks for ice cream, you
• 59:52
  get her ice cream. You know what I
• 59:53
  mean? So we we did that, and we
• 59:55
  had a great time. And
• 59:57
  we said everything that needed to be said.
• 59:58
  And when I listened to all her stories
• 1:00:00
  that I'd heard a million times before, but
• 1:00:01
  I wanted to hear them one more time.
• 1:00:04
  And I was there with her when she
• 1:00:06
  passed away. And I feel like
• 1:00:10
  that was the end of one chapter of
• 1:00:12
  my life. I knew that activist post was
• 1:00:15
  going to be kicking off a couple weeks
• 1:00:16
  later.
• 1:00:17
  And now I'm in the new chapter. So
• 1:00:19
  I encourage people who are interested in getting
• 1:00:22
  news from a place that's not going to
• 1:00:23
  get censored. Tell you that right now because
• 1:00:25
  I'm in charge of it. And so if
• 1:00:27
  you like what you see there, please, I'm
• 1:00:29
  asking you nicely, share the content with other
• 1:00:32
  people. Just share it. That's all you need
• 1:00:33
  to do. Just find something you like, put
• 1:00:36
  it on social media or send it to
• 1:00:37
  a group of people that might benefit from
• 1:00:39
  it, and that's how we keep this thing
• 1:00:40
  going. And I appreciate you having me back
• 1:00:42
  on, Greg, as always. I
• 1:00:44
  enjoy and
• 1:00:45
  really look forward to our conversations.
• 1:00:47
  Oh, yeah, man. I wish we did it
• 1:00:48
  more often. I tend to just wait until
• 1:00:51
  someone has a book. You know? You're always
• 1:00:53
  writing too,
• 1:00:54
  but the news was stacking up, and I
• 1:00:57
  was excited to hear about you buying those
• 1:00:59
  papers. I was like, digital papers, I guess.
• 1:01:01
  But, yeah, I was like, yeah, we got
• 1:01:02
  some things to talk about, and, it is
• 1:01:04
  always a pleasure. And it's always sad to
• 1:01:07
  lose someone you're close to, especially a parent
• 1:01:10
  when you got young kids, and you know
• 1:01:12
  that that story, that relationship is kind of
• 1:01:15
  over.
• 1:01:15
  But I guess all we can ever ask
• 1:01:17
  for is to make sure we say all
• 1:01:19
  the things that we wanna say and nothing
• 1:01:21
  goes unsaid.
• 1:01:23
  And if you get that time with a
• 1:01:24
  person who still has their faculties,
• 1:01:27
  I mean,
• 1:01:28
  they don't live forever. So
• 1:01:31
  sad, but, you know, I'm glad you got
• 1:01:33
  that with your mom. So,
• 1:01:35
  yeah, man. It's tough out there, but thanks
• 1:01:37
  for taking the time. We covered some great
• 1:01:40
  stories in just the first two weeks of
• 1:01:42
  a new, probably very crazy year.
• 1:01:45
  I'm lucky to know you. Best of luck
• 1:01:47
  in the new ventures. Thanks for stopping in.
• 1:01:50
  Thanks for having me.
• 1:01:54
  Yes. There we go. A return to form
• 1:01:57
  for THC
• 1:01:58
  with just the guy to get us there.
• 1:02:00
  Man, the news cycle is really redlining everyone's
• 1:02:04
  attention just a couple weeks into the new
• 1:02:06
  year,
• 1:02:07
  I'm starting to feel like they really love
• 1:02:09
  to do that. Sandy Hook kinda hit around
• 1:02:12
  Christmas, New Year's time, and, of course, COVID
• 1:02:15
  was the start of 2020,
• 1:02:17
  especially in the last few years. That new
• 1:02:19
  year's
• 1:02:20
  new start, ready to do it fresh energy
• 1:02:23
  just gets
• 1:02:25
  deflated by
• 1:02:27
  couple of high profile events.
• 1:02:28
  And then it seems like a lot of
• 1:02:30
  people's
• 1:02:31
  emotional tank gets kinda drained.
• 1:02:34
  And I understand, especially with what I've seen
• 1:02:37
  online, there's probably not a lot of empathy
• 1:02:39
  for people living in LA.
• 1:02:42
  But you gotta remember, it is not just
• 1:02:44
  Hollywood celebrities
• 1:02:46
  and slimeball agents and creepy producers. There's a
• 1:02:49
  lot of regular people who just grew up
• 1:02:52
  there,
• 1:02:53
  and a lot of people willing to suffer
• 1:02:55
  the vow of poverty in their youth, hoping
• 1:02:58
  to take a long shot at a dream.
• 1:03:01
  A dream I think is kind of fizzling
• 1:03:03
  out, but, hey, that isn't my problem.
• 1:03:06
  But I really shouldn't have to remind anyone
• 1:03:08
  that a city, any city, is 1,000,000 of
• 1:03:11
  different people enduring many different life conditions.
• 1:03:15
  But I've just seen so many posts that
• 1:03:17
  are like, fuck it. Let California
• 1:03:18
  burn. This is what you get.
• 1:03:21
  Those types of comments, it's like, come on.
• 1:03:24
  So many people live in places where they
• 1:03:26
  loathe their leadership and the decisions that have
• 1:03:29
  been made, but it's not in our power.
• 1:03:32
  And many cities and states have cartoonish
• 1:03:34
  archetypal
• 1:03:35
  stereotypes about the people that live there, but
• 1:03:38
  we all know that every kind of person
• 1:03:40
  lives every kind of
• 1:03:42
  place. And this is the suffering of our
• 1:03:44
  fellow citizens,
• 1:03:46
  but I am glad we could both bring
• 1:03:47
  some stuff to the table when it comes
• 1:03:49
  to those New Year's events.
• 1:03:52
  Almost seems like ancient history already.
• 1:03:54
  But that Tampa event that is tangentially
• 1:03:57
  connected to the New Orleans guy Gasparilla,
• 1:04:00
  it's actually today.
• 1:04:01
  Well, today is the children's parade that my
• 1:04:04
  daughter walks in, and then tomorrow is the
• 1:04:06
  main
• 1:04:07
  drunk fest event.
• 1:04:09
  But fingers crossed, it is uneventful.
• 1:04:12
  Let's hope there's nothing to worry about.
• 1:04:15
  But, yes, Charlie is a favorite. He really
• 1:04:17
  should be someone we talk to more frequently
• 1:04:20
  when we have these peak psychodrama
• 1:04:22
  periods.
• 1:04:23
  He has such a great
• 1:04:25
  conspiratorial
• 1:04:26
  background that he can really put the pieces
• 1:04:29
  together quickly
• 1:04:30
  and apply the same old templates appropriately.
• 1:04:34
  He knows how to parse the story for
• 1:04:36
  what's important and what's probably
• 1:04:38
  bullshit.
• 1:04:40
  We're on the same page with just a
• 1:04:41
  lot of stuff. Good guy.
• 1:04:43
  I feel like I was a little out
• 1:04:45
  of touch with what people
• 1:04:47
  were wanting the past couple weeks, at least
• 1:04:49
  that's what they told me.
• 1:04:51
  I like both shows with Maja and Josh
• 1:04:54
  Cutchen and Ryan Grolick,
• 1:04:56
  but in the context of a current events
• 1:04:59
  heavy jump start on the new year,
• 1:05:01
  people were expressing to me that they would
• 1:05:04
  have rather
• 1:05:05
  had something more related to the news cycle.
• 1:05:08
  The old bread and butter conspiracy.
• 1:05:11
  But I can only move so fast sometimes,
• 1:05:13
  but either way,
• 1:05:15
  I think we got to be pretty thorough,
• 1:05:16
  and I hope we said all the things
• 1:05:18
  that need to be said.
• 1:05:19
  We didn't talk about the UFO disclosure stuff
• 1:05:22
  very much. Not exactly Charlie's bag, more of
• 1:05:25
  a Josh Cutchin thing, but they're saying today
• 1:05:28
  is the big
• 1:05:30
  reveal. New evidence expected.
• 1:05:32
  New whistleblower.
• 1:05:34
  Some say they might even show materials
• 1:05:37
  or have footage of a craft retrieval.
• 1:05:40
  I don't hold my breath. I don't get
• 1:05:43
  all worked up. I don't even think that
• 1:05:44
  they're operating within the right paradigm or that
• 1:05:47
  I want
• 1:05:48
  disclosure to come from
• 1:05:51
  the military.
• 1:05:53
  They're clearly angling for something. They always are,
• 1:05:56
  but just figured since it was relevant that
• 1:05:59
  today seems to be that reveal, keep an
• 1:06:01
  eye out.
• 1:06:02
  You might hear a few interesting threads. At
• 1:06:05
  least it's good from an analysis
• 1:06:07
  standpoint even if you don't take it all
• 1:06:09
  at face value.
• 1:06:11
  But that said, really good first hour today.
• 1:06:13
  We tried to fit in a lot of
• 1:06:15
  stuff. I tried to make sure it was
• 1:06:16
  front loaded with the good information, the important
• 1:06:19
  stuff.
• 1:06:19
  The plus show, of course, only adds more.
• 1:06:22
  We talked about operation
• 1:06:24
  sea spray,
• 1:06:25
  which is maybe related to
• 1:06:28
  the fog people see.
• 1:06:30
  We got into the bird flu threats and
• 1:06:32
  the manipulation of the food supply and the
• 1:06:35
  control of local farmers,
• 1:06:37
  and we talked about building parallel systems to
• 1:06:39
  empower the individual against that government overreach.
• 1:06:43
  I do think the true revolution is more
• 1:06:46
  about just being self sufficient and more independent
• 1:06:49
  from the big system,
• 1:06:51
  But several things I found interesting in that
• 1:06:54
  second hour. Sign up at the higher side
• 1:06:56
  chats.com
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  or use the links right in the show
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  What else? What else? Oh, yes. I did
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  find a little more about that bacteria we
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  talked about in the second hour.
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  Cerellia marcessions
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  or SMARSessions
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  as they say.
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  As a reminder, Operation Sea Spray was in
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  1950
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  and this says since 1950
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  SMARSessions
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  has steadily increased as a cause of human
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  infection.
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  With many strains resistant to multiple antibiotics.
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  The first indications of problems came with the
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  influenza vaccine produced by Chiron Corporation in 2004,
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  which involved s Marsessions
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  contamination.
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  In early 2008,
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  the FDA issued a nationwide
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  recall of one lot of prefilled
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  heparin lock flush solution.
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  The heparin
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  IV flush syringes had been found to be
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  contaminated with SMAR sessions which resulted in patient
• 1:08:28
  infections.
• 1:08:29
  The Center For Disease Control confirmed growth of
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  SMAR sessions from several unopened syringes of the
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  product.
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  It has been linked to 19 cases in
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  Alabama
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  Hospitals in 2,011
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  including 10 deaths.
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  All of the patients involved were receiving total
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  parenteral
• 1:08:50
  nutrition at the time. So basically getting IV
• 1:08:52
  fluids.
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  19 cases, 10 dead.
• 1:08:56
  Bit of a coin flip if you got
• 1:08:58
  a syringe tainted with this bacteria,
• 1:09:01
  but this is the same bacteria
• 1:09:03
  sprayed on San Francisco in Operation Sea Spray
• 1:09:06
  and what 2 random Internet sources without much
• 1:09:09
  verification
• 1:09:10
  claim
• 1:09:11
  has been tested for in the chemical
• 1:09:14
  tasting fog people were experiencing recently.
• 1:09:18
  But then I thought, Chiron,
• 1:09:20
  that's another one of those esoterically
• 1:09:22
  charged names. Well, here's the deal with that.
• 1:09:25
  Chiron was notable throughout Greek mythology for his
• 1:09:29
  young nurturing nature. His personal skills tend to
• 1:09:32
  match those of his foster father, Apollo,
• 1:09:35
  who taught the young centaur the art of
• 1:09:38
  medicine, herbs, music, archery, hunting, gymnastics, and prophecy,
• 1:09:42
  and made him rise above his beastly nature.
• 1:09:45
  Chiron was known for his knowledge and skill
• 1:09:48
  of medicine, and thus was credited with the
• 1:09:50
  discovery of botany and pharmacy,
• 1:09:53
  the science of herbs and medicine.
• 1:09:55
  Like satyrs,
• 1:09:57
  centaurs were notorious for being wild, lusty, overly
• 1:10:00
  indulgent drinkers,
• 1:10:02
  violent when intoxicated, and generally uncultured delinquents.
• 1:10:07
  Chiron, by contrast, was intelligent, civilized, and kind
• 1:10:11
  because he was not related directly to the
• 1:10:13
  other centaurs due to his parentage. He was
• 1:10:16
  the son of the Titan
• 1:10:18
  Cronos,
• 1:10:19
  obviously AKA Kronos, obviously AKA Saturn,
• 1:10:24
  and the oceanid,
• 1:10:25
  Valera.
• 1:10:27
  Man, sometimes I'm just like, what even is
• 1:10:29
  Greek mythology?
• 1:10:31
  Also, if you've ever gotten a detailed birth
• 1:10:34
  chart, they do sometimes incorporate the
• 1:10:37
  asteroid Chiron. Well, it's actually a comet if
• 1:10:41
  you wanna be technical, but for some reason,
• 1:10:43
  it's called an asteroid in a lot of
• 1:10:45
  the birth charts that I've seen. But in
• 1:10:47
  terms of things that aren't planets that are
• 1:10:49
  incorporated into birth charts that also aren't the
• 1:10:51
  sun and the moon,
• 1:10:52
  Chiron is probably
• 1:10:54
  top of the list.
• 1:10:56
  I mean, we narrow it down that far,
• 1:10:59
  things that aren't the sun and the moon
• 1:11:00
  or planet. It probably is the whole list.
• 1:11:02
  It's the only other thing that I've ever
• 1:11:04
  seen thrown into birth charts.
• 1:11:06
  But I thought that was interesting. Another one
• 1:11:08
  of those
• 1:11:09
  names of a corporation
• 1:11:11
  that harkens back to
• 1:11:13
  those old metaphysical names and space.
• 1:11:17
  But I love that Charlie is expanding his
• 1:11:19
  work, trying some different things, like Josh Cutchin
• 1:11:22
  producing a documentary on the last episode. I
• 1:11:25
  should do more outside of the show itself,
• 1:11:27
  I think, but
• 1:11:28
  I don't know what that would be.
• 1:11:31
  Oh, well.
• 1:11:32
  On the subject of the last show, you
• 1:11:34
  know we always point out what it was
• 1:11:36
  rated by the Plus People, and Josh
• 1:11:38
  and Ryan picked up a 4.4.
• 1:11:43
  Not bad. It got a little scary for
• 1:11:44
  a minute, but a 4.4
• 1:11:46
  is a good recovery from the lower number
• 1:11:48
  that I saw a few days ago.
• 1:11:50
  But I thought it was better than that.
• 1:11:52
  We really started cooking with gas when we
• 1:11:54
  got into the disclosure stuff and into the
• 1:11:56
  second hour, but the number doesn't lie.
• 1:11:59
  Before we go, you know we like to
• 1:12:01
  hit the meetup calendar, lay it out where
• 1:12:03
  THC fans are getting together,
• 1:12:06
  and here's what we got. 1st on deck
• 1:12:08
  is January 23rd at the Coral Tree in
• 1:12:11
  LA. Hopefully, that's still going on. Make sure
• 1:12:14
  you check with the host and confirm.
• 1:12:17
  January 25th, Allentown Alchemist at McCall Collective Brewery
• 1:12:21
  in Allentown, Pennsylvania.
• 1:12:23
  We got the Conway pub meetup on February
• 1:12:25
  1st in Conway,
• 1:12:27
  Washington, and February 3rd, Auckland, New Zealand at
• 1:12:29
  Gail Brauth's Ale House.
• 1:12:31
  February 8th, McCall Collective Taphouse in Baringsville,
• 1:12:36
  Pennsylvania.
• 1:12:37
  Still not sure if that's the same location
• 1:12:39
  with a different
• 1:12:41
  town name.
• 1:12:42
  February 10th, Santa Fe, New Mexico, the Cava
• 1:12:45
  meet and greet at Roots and Leaves. February
• 1:12:48
  15th, h two booster in the Netherlands.
• 1:12:52
  And then, of course, March 8th, a meet
• 1:12:54
  up here in Tampa somewhere with me and
• 1:12:57
  Gordon. Still circling around the venue.
• 1:13:00
  We hit a couple dead ends as negotiations
• 1:13:03
  were
• 1:13:04
  taking place.
• 1:13:05
  One of the owners in particular got very
• 1:13:09
  concerned about what we might be talking about.
• 1:13:12
  And, you know, whatever. We talk about taboo
• 1:13:15
  things. If you're uncomfortable with it, then probably
• 1:13:18
  this isn't a good fit.
• 1:13:20
  But we will overcome. We will find something.
• 1:13:24
  Also, in February, as Charlie said, Anarko Poco.
• 1:13:28
  Probably one of the biggest
• 1:13:30
  and most fun sounding
• 1:13:32
  last remaining conspiracy conferences on this island Earth.
• 1:13:36
  An event I do wish I could go
• 1:13:38
  to, and I really might try to make
• 1:13:40
  it more of a thing next year, but
• 1:13:42
  use the coupon code macro if you do
• 1:13:45
  plan to go this year.
• 1:13:47
  Good stuff, though. Bookmark his new ventures activist
• 1:13:50
  post and natural blaze.
• 1:13:53
  I hope we can at least support him
• 1:13:55
  by making those sites part of our
• 1:13:58
  news digestion
• 1:13:59
  routine.
• 1:14:01
  I know he will fill it up with
• 1:14:02
  good stuff, and it's an ambitious undertaking.
• 1:14:06
  But I support the passion and the effort.
• 1:14:09
  Again, just feel really lucky to know Charlie.
• 1:14:12
  And to close this one out, I wrote
• 1:14:14
  a song with lyrics inspired by Charlie's first
• 1:14:17
  book.
• 1:14:18
  As is the case now, you can download
• 1:14:20
  these songs on the show page from the
• 1:14:22
  website if you wanna copy. It's free for
• 1:14:25
  all.
• 1:14:26
  Just a silly little thing, but I was
• 1:14:29
  just about to put this episode out with
• 1:14:31
  a song that I came up with playing
• 1:14:33
  off Charles in Charge, but at the last
• 1:14:36
  second, I realized how bad it was and
• 1:14:38
  started over.
• 1:14:40
  And now my 3 year old is already
• 1:14:42
  singing this one, so
• 1:14:44
  you're welcome, kid.
• 1:14:45
  Take care. I've done my part.
• 1:14:48
  Your move American Gladio operators, weather weapon wielders,
• 1:14:51
  and mainstream alternative media promoters.
• 1:14:55
  Your
• 1:14:56
  fucking
• 1:14:57
  move.
• 1:14:58
  We are in a lot of trouble
• 1:15:01
  across every
• 1:15:06
  industry.
• 1:15:07
  Food, water,
• 1:15:09
  lettuce,
• 1:15:10
  and computer
• 1:15:11
  tech and energy.
• 1:15:16
  The people aren't paying attention.
• 1:15:20
  Not much is getting through.
• 1:15:26
  Gains in the information
• 1:15:29
  war are getting long overdue.
• 1:15:35
  What's left for the big old octopus
• 1:15:42
  to get its tentacles
• 1:15:49
  around. Sure, it's got a grip on
• 1:15:52
  everything,
• 1:15:54
  but it's a long way
• 1:16:00
  down.
• 1:16:02
  A oily appendage
• 1:16:04
  is on a big monster
• 1:16:07
  we know,
• 1:16:11
  working their way in every
• 1:16:13
  orifice
• 1:16:15
  all over the globe.
• 1:16:20
  But we need to be united.
• 1:16:24
  We need to make a better case.
• 1:16:30
  Facts
• 1:16:31
  over propaganda,
• 1:16:34
  justice over grace.
• 1:16:39
  What's left for the big old
• 1:16:45
  octopus,
• 1:16:46
  to get its tentacles
• 1:16:49
  around?
• 1:16:53
  Sure, it's got a grip on
• 1:17:10
  deconstruct the playbook
• 1:17:12
  for us.
• 1:17:15
  Wake them up, get a little loud,
• 1:17:18
  they can't continue
• 1:17:20
  to ignore us.
• 1:17:25
  Us. The history
• 1:17:26
  is
• 1:17:27
  obvious.
• 1:17:28
  The future's
• 1:17:29
  changing
• 1:17:31
  fast.
• 1:17:34
  Lead us not into temptation
• 1:17:37
  by
• 1:17:38
  parasitic
• 1:17:39
  psychopaths.
• 1:17:43
  What's left for the big old
• 1:17:46
  octopus
• 1:17:50
  to get its tentacles