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Mark Belling Podcast #118: Wisconsin has more public school staff than ever even as enrollment crashes. Texas goes all-in for MAGA as a longtime GOP establishment Senator loses a Republican primary, and the Packers may have to deal with the suspension of their star running back · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: But this one's pretty simple. We have a property tax
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  Speaker 2: problem in many parts of the country and in particular
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  Speaker 2: here in Wisconsin, and we keep discussing ways to ease
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  Speaker 2: the burden and so on, but all of it is
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  Speaker 2: to sound trite, and maybe it is trite, but it's true.
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  Speaker 2: The reason that any type of tax is too high
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  Speaker 2: is because we're spending too much money in Wisconsin. And
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  Speaker 2: this is similar to other states for those of you
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  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin, but in particular Wisconsin, property taxes are used
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  Speaker 2: to fund really only two things. There's more than that,
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  Speaker 2: but primarily two, your local government and the schools. The
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  Speaker 2: state kicks in a big chunk of money to assist
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  Speaker 2: in running the schools. But if you take a look
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  Speaker 2: at the property tax billages about every community, you'll put
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  Speaker 2: that thing in and they'll break it down for you.
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  Speaker 2: An enormous percentage of your property tax dollar goes to
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  Speaker 2: the schools. There's a report out today from a conservative
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  Speaker 2: thing tank. It's called Institute for Reforming Government, and it
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  Speaker 2: explains the problem. Here are the numbers right now in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: We have a total of seven hundred and ninety one thousand,
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and ninety four public school students. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the numbers from last year twenty twenty five, So there's
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred ninety one thousand, seven ninety four kids that
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  Speaker 2: go to public schools. I don't know if they count
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  Speaker 2: the four k the kids before kindergarten or not, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the number. And then going obviously all the way
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  Speaker 2: to seniors in high school, and we're only counting public schools.
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  Speaker 2: That is the lowest number that we've had in decades.
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  Speaker 2: So the number of kids that we have in the
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  Speaker 2: schools keeps going down. There are two major reasons for
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  Speaker 2: the decline. The first is the long term decline in
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  Speaker 2: the birth rate. There is nothing out there that would
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  Speaker 2: indicate this is going to reverse. The birth rate has
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  Speaker 2: been declining significantly, in particular with the millennial group that
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  Speaker 2: delayed marriage, and then when there was marriage, very very
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  Speaker 2: small families lower than the generation above them, disease which
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  Speaker 2: was lower than the millennials, and so on. The baby
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  Speaker 2: boomers by definition created this huge group of people, and
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  Speaker 2: then you had another wave that came in when their
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  Speaker 2: kids were being raised. But that large group of their kids,
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  Speaker 2: the millennials, had drastically lower birth rates. Even if the
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  Speaker 2: Gen zs reverse that, there aren't as many of them
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  Speaker 2: as there are millennials. So that's the first part. We
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  Speaker 2: have fewer students because there's fewer people making kids. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing that mitigates against that is the illegal immigration
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  Speaker 2: situation has resulted in a lot of kids going to
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  Speaker 2: schools of people that weren't born in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: so that's mitigated against and created some number of students
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  Speaker 2: to cut into this decline. The second factor that's going
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  Speaker 2: on is the growth of private schools. More and more
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  Speaker 2: parents are sending their kids to schools other than the
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  Speaker 2: public schools in the the areas that have school choice.
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  Speaker 2: There's a tremendous market for parents to send their kids
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  Speaker 2: somewhere other than the public schools. So those two factors.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the number that we have to put it
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  Speaker 2: into context, seven hundred ninety one thousand. Our population in
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin's a little bit shy of six million. So that
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  Speaker 2: number of people are kids between you know, senior in
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  Speaker 2: high school and when they start school who go to
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  Speaker 2: the public schools. Remember that number. Here's the other number.
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  Speaker 2: The current employment by public schools in Wisconsin, this is
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  Speaker 2: all of them combined, is one hundred thirteen thousand, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one. That is the highest number ever.
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  Speaker 2: You begin to see the problem. We have more staff
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  Speaker 2: than ever while the number of students is at a
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  Speaker 2: decades long low, fewer students to teach, but more people
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  Speaker 2: working for the schools. Now they break down the numbers,
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  Speaker 2: the great growth in employment is not of people that
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  Speaker 2: are certified as teachers. This is the thing that just
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  Speaker 2: shocks people who haven't paid close attention, who maybe of
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  Speaker 2: my generation or even younger than that. You would not
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  Speaker 2: believe the number of people who work in the schools.
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  Speaker 2: I struggle to figure out what it is that they
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  Speaker 2: all do. Now we're going to dive into the number.
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  Speaker 2: These are the IRG reporters using numbers from DPI. The
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  Speaker 2: State Department of Public Instruction from twenty twenty to twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six with spconsin public schools lost one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven licensed staff. Licensed staff are generally teachers they
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  Speaker 2: require a license, but added one thousand, five hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty one other staff. So while the headcount for the
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  Speaker 2: teachers actually declined very small, about less than two hundred
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  Speaker 2: over the six year period, the employment of non teachers,
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  Speaker 2: and that would be all over the map. Custodians, hell's
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  Speaker 2: workers specialists all that that increased by fifteen hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty one during that same period of time, enrollment dropped
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  Speaker 2: sixty three thousand. Now that's an enormous decline in six years. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: and I know I'm giving you a lot of numbers. Here,
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and ninety thousand is the current number of
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  Speaker 2: total students. It was eight hundred and fifty four thousand
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  Speaker 2: just six years ago. So that's a very strong decline
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  Speaker 2: off the top of my head, about six or seven
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  Speaker 2: percent in just six years, and shows every indication of continuing.
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  Speaker 2: So the number of students declining and declining and declining,
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  Speaker 2: but the staff tone continues to go up. One of
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  Speaker 2: the culprits here is COVID, and the iERG report goes
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  Speaker 2: into that during COVID, the federal government gave schools a
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  Speaker 2: ton of additional money and they use that money to
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  Speaker 2: hire staff. Some of that money is now drying up.
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  Speaker 2: The argument was, Okay, we have COVID, we have a
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  Speaker 2: need for additional staff, we're doing remote learning. So on. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Biden carpet bombed the country with massive amounts of money
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  Speaker 2: with his American Recovery Act program, and they pumped in
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  Speaker 2: all of this money that they said was transitional. They
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  Speaker 2: helped the schools deal with this crisis that was upending things.
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  Speaker 2: The problem in government is that you can never do
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  Speaker 2: anything temporarily. So they got all of these staff they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have them before, but now they claim they still
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  Speaker 2: need them even though their enrollment is declining. The staffers
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  Speaker 2: that were supposed to be temporary, they say that they
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  Speaker 2: continue to need them, so they don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of them. So that means since they're not getting
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  Speaker 2: the same federal COVID money to pay for them, they're
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  Speaker 2: looking to the local taxpayer to carry this. A big
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  Speaker 2: portion of the problem special needs diagnoses. Now we could
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  Speaker 2: go through this forever. The number of kids that are
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  Speaker 2: being diagnosed is having some sort of a disability. In
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  Speaker 2: almost all cases, they're not physical disabilities, they're learning disabilities,
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  Speaker 2: emotional disabilities, any kid that acts up. Part of it
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  Speaker 2: is the on the parts of so many parents to
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  Speaker 2: get their kids eligible for SSI, the federal program, well,
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  Speaker 2: that means they have to be declared to have some
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  Speaker 2: sort of a disability. So that means other public schools
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  Speaker 2: they have to hire additional staff to deal with this
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  Speaker 2: supposed disability. Also, the whole thing of kids being on
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  Speaker 2: the so called spectrum, no one knows if there actually
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  Speaker 2: is that much of an increase in autism. I had
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  Speaker 2: never heard of autism when I was a kid. Now
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  Speaker 2: you might say, yeah, well, you were a kid in
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  Speaker 2: the Civil War. Jason's a little bit younger than me.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember any kids when you were in grade
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  Speaker 2: school being autistic? None? And again, it may be that
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  Speaker 2: this condition is increasing for all of the reasons that
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  Speaker 2: RFK Junior and others have been focusing on. Or it
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  Speaker 2: may be that kids who have different personality quirks are
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  Speaker 2: now being classified as somewhere being on the spectrum. The
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  Speaker 2: truth may be somewhere in between. It may well be
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of the factors in our society are
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  Speaker 2: contributing to children acting in a fashion that appears to
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  Speaker 2: be autistic. Nonetheless, they're getting all of these diagnoses, and
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  Speaker 2: since we know of all these kids diagnosed as this,
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  Speaker 2: that or the other thing, we hire specialists to address this. Again,
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  Speaker 2: these are not teachers, but you can see that the
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  Speaker 2: schools themselves have a vested interest in classifying as many
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  Speaker 2: kids as possible being this disability or that disability, because
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  Speaker 2: it becomes a reason to hire more people. Remember, the
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  Speaker 2: private schools are not a profit making organization. So profit
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  Speaker 2: making organizations are constantly cutting staff, cutting staff, cutting staff,
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  Speaker 2: cutting staff, trying to live within their means. The schools
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  Speaker 2: don't have any incentive to do that. If you're a superintendent,
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  Speaker 2: why do you want to cut staff? You just want
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  Speaker 2: to have a larger and larger empire. There. In the
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  Speaker 2: year twenty ten, now that's a little over fifteen years ago,
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  Speaker 2: twelve percent of Wisconsin public school first graders received a
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  Speaker 2: disability classification. That still strikes me as shockingly high, but
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  Speaker 2: that was twenty ten. In twenty twenty, fifteen percent of
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  Speaker 2: first graders did in twenty twenty six, nineteen percent of
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  Speaker 2: first graders. Did you see what's happening? This is accelerating.
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  Speaker 2: Between twenty ten and twenty we went to fifteen percent
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  Speaker 2: to nineteen percent of first the greatest classified as having
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  Speaker 2: a disability. But between twenty twenty and twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: only six years, we went from fifteen to nineteen. So
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  Speaker 2: this thing is at this rate, and this is not
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  Speaker 2: an exaggeration. By about twenty fifty five, they're gonna claim
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  Speaker 2: half the kids have a disability. So again, when they
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  Speaker 2: claim these things, it becomes a rationale to higher more
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  Speaker 2: p people to address all of these alleged needs. Back
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  Speaker 2: to the report, and as IRG demonstrated in its COVID
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  Speaker 2: nineteen to aid report, some districts have passed referendum to
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  Speaker 2: maintain staff, one supported by one time federal pandemic aid.
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  Speaker 2: Districts that did so, like oh Claire and Wuahwatosa, now
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  Speaker 2: you're talking here, two of the worst school districts in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: Both are cities that had a history of being rather conservative.
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  Speaker 2: They're both middle sized cities and then fifty to sixty
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  Speaker 2: thousand range. Roughly speaking, I think Wuauwatosa maybe a little
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  Speaker 2: higher than that. Wuahwatosa and Oclaire have both become liberal
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. The biggest is overwhelming number
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  Speaker 2: of public employees who live there. Oclaire is a big
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  Speaker 2: university town, has a lot of government workers there. And Wuahwatosa.
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  Speaker 2: Now that Milwaukee got rid of the residency rule, the
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee public employees and a lot of the teachers they
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  Speaker 2: moved in. So they got all of this aid to
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  Speaker 2: hire more staff during COVID, But then when they didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the money to pay for them anymore, they went
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  Speaker 2: to the taxpirits for these massive referendums and they passed,
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  Speaker 2: so they keep the massive number of employees even though
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  Speaker 2: the outside EID isn't coming in and the enrollment is
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  Speaker 2: going down. Districts that did so, like Oclara Wabatosa, now
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  Speaker 2: face difficult cuts next year arts, physical education, elementary education
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  Speaker 2: that still leave them with far more staff and fewer
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  Speaker 2: students in twenty twenty. So you know, as I say,
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  Speaker 2: this is explaining the entire problem. So they passed these referendums. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that gets some money for another couple of years to
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  Speaker 2: keep paying all of these staffers that they didn't have before.
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  Speaker 2: Now that money runs out, now they have to cut.
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  Speaker 2: And where do they cut. Are they cutting all of
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  Speaker 2: these additional staff positions that they created before. No, now
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  Speaker 2: they're going into actual education. We're going to cut arts teachers,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to cut go through the list here,
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  Speaker 2: fied teachers, elementary education teachers. So the public freaks out.
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  Speaker 2: They're cutting all of these teachers. And as I said,
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  Speaker 2: when I went through these numbers, our actual number of
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  Speaker 2: teachers and the term is licensed, so that would mean
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  Speaker 2: teachers in some of the administrators, those are who are
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  Speaker 2: licensed licensed by DPI certification to teach. That number has
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  Speaker 2: been flatlined, slightly lower than it was a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all these other staff specialists, building and grounds, this,
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  Speaker 2: that and the other thing. The reason our property taxes
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  Speaker 2: are so high is because, in particular with the schools,
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  Speaker 2: local government spends too much money too, but schools spend
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  Speaker 2: local government. We're seeing a population increase, so government does
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  Speaker 2: have more people they have to tend to, but the
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  Speaker 2: schools have fewer people to serve. The reason property taxes
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  Speaker 2: are so high is because we spend so much damn
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  Speaker 2: money on the schools. And who's responsible for spending so
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  Speaker 2: much money on the schools the public. We put these
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  Speaker 2: referendum questions on the ballot and most of them pass.
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  Speaker 2: In this most recent election, a few of them went down.
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  Speaker 2: A higher percentage went down than normal. That might be
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  Speaker 2: because the way the economy is right now. It might
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  Speaker 2: be because people are finally saying enough is enough. It
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  Speaker 2: might be because fewer kids are going to the schools.
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  Speaker 2: That means that there are fewer parents that are in
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  Speaker 2: the voter block, and parents tend to vote for the referendums.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, but the schools keep crying poor as they
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  Speaker 2: keep hiring additional staff as their enrollment continues to decline.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I've noted there is no liberal versus conservative
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  Speaker 2: trend on this very rare school districts that the voter
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  Speaker 2: blaze is primarily conservative are just as likely to pass
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  Speaker 2: referendums as when they're liberal. Now, you take these liberal
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  Speaker 2: communities on the North Shua like Shorewood, they pass every
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  Speaker 2: referendum they put on the ballot. But there are some
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  Speaker 2: fairly conservative communities that are passing of right and left
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  Speaker 2: as well. Again, you do get the sense that there
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  Speaker 2: may be some resistance here, particularly when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: these building referendums. The Arrowhead School District, huge district geographically
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  Speaker 2: and population wise in Waukeshaw County. They tried to pass
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  Speaker 2: a referendum. All they do is run the high school.
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  Speaker 2: They don't eve run the elementary schools. They tried to
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  Speaker 2: pass a referendum too, knocked down one of the schools.
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  Speaker 2: Build the whole thing hundreds of hundreds of millions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars that the expayer said no to, that it's utterly unneeded.
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  Speaker 2: The Arrowhead schoolboy and administration is constantly crying that they're poor.
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  Speaker 2: They're not poor. Their staffing levels are through the rough.
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  Speaker 2: They'll claim that they have all of these needs, but
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  Speaker 2: are they needs or are they self created needs? What's
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  Speaker 2: that that's something that you say you have to do
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  Speaker 2: and then turn around and say, now we need money
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  Speaker 2: to do this thing that we decided that we had
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  Speaker 2: to do. Keep classifying students as being this, that or
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  Speaker 2: the other thing, and come up with excuses to hire money,
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  Speaker 2: to pay money to hire people to provide those services.
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  Speaker 2: I've made this point a few times. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: make it again. I wish I remember who told me this,
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  Speaker 2: but it's probably multiple people. Somebody, somebody that's in business,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it was construction, but I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been computer systems, it systems. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what it was. This goes back years back,
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  Speaker 2: and those of you that are long time listened as
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  Speaker 2: to me have heard me tell the story a zillion times.
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  Speaker 2: This is zillion and one. The guy said, when I
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  Speaker 2: go into a business to make a proposal on a
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  Speaker 2: system upgrade or whatever it is that we do, there's
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  Speaker 2: usually one person in the meeting, and I have to
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  Speaker 2: convince that person, and they're the project manager overseas and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the one that signs off on it. And usually what
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  Speaker 2: happens is you presented that person and that person goes
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  Speaker 2: to their boss and they either say yes or no.
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  Speaker 2: Said when to go to the schools, there's always twelve
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  Speaker 2: people in the meeting. You know. When I do a
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: public records request of something pertaining to the schools, you
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  Speaker 2: always get like eleven copies of the same record. You
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  Speaker 2: know why because that's how many people are c seed
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  Speaker 2: on the record. In other words, somebody emails someone and
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  Speaker 2: nine or ten or eleven other people get of that.
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  Speaker 2: So when you knew the records request, you're getting the
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  Speaker 2: copy that went to each of the persons because they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: all deal with that subject. In other words, you have
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  Speaker 2: lots everything's done by committees, and you have lots of
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  Speaker 2: people doing the same thing. Un kill, there is pressure
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of those people. You will not see.
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  Speaker 2: I get quickly off the top of my head, and
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  Speaker 2: it's really simple. Bathroom. It's amazing how the numbers work
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  Speaker 2: out almost perfectly. It's one for seven, seven hundred ninety
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  Speaker 2: one thousand, one hundred and thirteen thousand. I can do
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  Speaker 2: that math pretty good in my head. Seven times one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen is almost exactly seven ninety one, so
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  Speaker 2: it's almost exactly one employee for every seven students. That's
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  Speaker 2: crazy when you consider, depending on the school, the average
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  Speaker 2: classroom is somewhere between eighteen and thirty four. They're all
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  Speaker 2: over the map, but you're in the twenties. That means,
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  Speaker 2: let's imagine that the average class side of Wisconsin is
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  Speaker 2: when is twenty five. It may be lower than that,
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  Speaker 2: but if it is, it's going to be in that ballberg.
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  Speaker 2: That means you have two people for every teacher. Now,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you may not want to hear that that's the problem,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the problem which brings us now. I always
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  Speaker 2: like to use one example, and a listener has contacted
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  Speaker 2: me complaining about this. There is a school district in
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County, Greenfield, that happens to be the school district
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  Speaker 2: that the iHeart Milwaukee headquarters, the community is based in.
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  Speaker 2: They're kinstantly asking for referendums. I'm going to share a
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  Speaker 2: portion of this person's letter because he's specific here to
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  Speaker 2: the community of Greenfield and the specifics probably most of
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  Speaker 2: you don't care about, but because every community has different specifics,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: but they're all the same rationale that we need more money. Mark,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: they're at it again. I live in Greenfield with my
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wife and four school aged kids. Our taxes are insane.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: We pay eighty four hundred dollars a year. Granted our
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: house is a market value of around five hundred thousand,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and we're on about an acre of land, but it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: still out of control of that. Two thousand, six hundred
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and fifty goes to Greenfield schools. Last week, the district
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: sent out a feeler survey through the Donovan Group. See
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: they hire these companies. There used to be one that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: did all of them. They survey in which they survey
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the residents of the community. The surveys are never an
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: attempt this is me now, not the letter. They're never
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: an attempt to find out what people actually think about
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: whether or not the schools need more money. The surveys
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: are an attempt to start convincing people to pass the referendum.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Whenever government does this serve It's like Marty Brooks's study
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: over at the convention center. He hired a company, do
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: we need to build a do we need a convention
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: center hotel at Milwaukee. Of course they came back and said,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: we need a convention center Hotel Brooks Is saying, Oh,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell them. That's what they had to conclude.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: They always conclude what it is that you want to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: hear to the Donovan group to see if they can
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: ram through more school referendums. The phrasing from the consultant
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: is what ticks me off. They offer up about four
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: options for the taxpayer, saying option one doesn't increase our tax.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Options two, three, and four increase it modestly by five, fourteen,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and nineteen dollars per one hundred thousand dollars of market value, respectively.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: They don't even mention how much our tax would decrease
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: by simply doing nothing. And then it goes on and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: they talk about the number of things that they want
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to do in that community. There is not a school
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: district in the state of Wisconsin that I'm aware of
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that needs a tax increase. There may be a handful
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in areas where they were once rural and they're being
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: subdivided like crazy, in which the enroman count is going up.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Very rare because even in those areas where there's lots
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of subdivisions, you're also mitigated against by the rapidly declining
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: birth rate. You may be able to find in some
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: where they say, well, enrollment is going up, we need
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: more schools to handle all of this. In fact, in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: most cases the school districts are so overbuilt that they
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: need to close schools. And that's what you could tax
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: parents off and crying. Who don't close the school that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: my kid goes to? Why not kid goes to the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: other school? Who gives a crap? I always like to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: count on how many, count up how many kids schools
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I went to before I graduated from high school. But
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it's amazing I have to keep doing it manually. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: went to one school for kindergarten, another school for the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: first grade, another school for grades two three in a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: portion of four, then another school for grades four through eight.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: We only moved once during this and then the same
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: school through high school. Was I traumatized that I didn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: move from kindergarten to first grade? They changed the geographic lines.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I went to one school for kindergarten at a different school
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: for the first grade, so what after first grade? I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: went to the Catholic school. The Catholic school didn't offer
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the first grade, went to that school for grades two
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: three in the portion of the four was I trauma
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to no. In the fourth grade, they were building a
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: new school. This was the Baby Bool. I am a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: manifestation of the baby booth. Kids are cranking out like crazy,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and this is when they needed more schools. They built
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a new Catholic school in the community. It was in.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It got finished in the middle of the school year.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: We went to school on a Friday and one school
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and on the Monday, the kids of us that lived
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in the south end of town went to the other school.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, these people are talking out, Oh, you can't
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: close this school, and we so traumatic for my kids.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I went from one school to another over a weekend.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So what you see. My points though, until we are
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: willing to address the fact that we have a declining
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: number of uses of public schools but a rapid increase
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in the amount of people that we are hiring to
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: run them, we will never address the property tax problem. Now,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: there's two groups of people out there that complain about
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: property taxes. The people who know that we're spending too
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: much money and vote against all this stuff. And the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: people complain about the property taxes but are in favor
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of spending all the money and vote for all the referendums.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The second group of you, you're full of crap. You're
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of phonies. If you're supporting all this money
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: going into the schools and then turn it around and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: whinding about your property taxes, you're just a phony. Now if,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: on the other hand, like me, you understand that we
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: are drastically overspending, especially for the schools, and that's the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: reason the property taxes are so high, then we're on
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the same page. This story is clearly related that deal
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: that Tony Ebers and the Republican legislative leaders struck to
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: significantly increase public school funding by the state at the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: same time providing property tax relief and income tax relief.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: There would be property tax relief, the state would, because
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of the surplus, kick money into lower property taxes statewide,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and then also issued three hundred dollars rebate checks to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: everyone who paid income taxes in the last year six
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: hundred couple, three hundred per person. They were able to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: do this because the state surplus is huge. As you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: probably recall, the deal failed in the legislature. It passed
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the state Assembly. So let's focus on the Senate. Every
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Democrat in the state Senate voted against it. All but
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: three of the Republicans voted for it. So all but
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: three Republicans voted yes. Every Democrat voted no. Evers, the
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: governor is a Democrat. He couldn't get a single day
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Democrat in the state Senate to vote for the bill.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It failed by a vote? Was it one or two?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a little fuzzy on that, Jason. Do you
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: have that off the top of your head. Yeah, Anyway,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it was either one or two votes. My point is
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is that if Evers had gotten just a couple of
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Democrats to vote for this, he doesn't even need all
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: of them, or most of them are even half or
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: even a third, it passes, but he couldn't get any
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to do it. Now over on the Republican side, as
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I said, three Republicans broke ranks from their leader and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: voted no. So is this the republican's faults of the Democrats?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Fat Well, I think pretty simple. It's pretty simple when
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you have a compromise deal. Evers is a Democrat, the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: legislative leaders are Republicans. That means members of both parties
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have to vote for the compromise because there are going
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to be some in each party that don't like it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Any compromise you do, there are going to be some
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: people that don't like it, and there are some Republicans
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: who thought, way too much of this goes to this schools,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and I want to I think way too much of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: this goost As I just went through this whole thing,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the schools get too damn much money. Now. On the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: other hand, Tony Evers, being the governor and a Democrat,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: is not going to support any tax cuts. He's the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: guy that used his veto pen to create an automatic
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: four hundred year increase in property taxes. So the only
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: chance the Republicans are going to get to cut taxes
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: is to cut a deal in which you can have
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Evers give more money to the schools, and you turn
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: around to give this tax to taxpayers because you have
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: all this money laying around. Likewise, with regard to the Democrats,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the Democrats in the Senate voted against it because not
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: because they're opposed to the aid of the schools, they
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: were hacked off that there were any tax cuts in it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: They wanted to spend all of it. So okay, in
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: order to get this pass, that means Evers has to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: get some Democrats to vote for it. The Republican leaders
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: get some of their people to get FORWARED, and you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: get more than half. Not one Democrat on the Senate
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: voted for none. So it failed over the weekend, actually yesterday.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this on a Wednesday. It came out on Tuesday.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Marquette University Law School poll. It's the most prominent statewide
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: polling operation. It's operated out of the Market University Law School.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: It's run by Charles Franklin. They surveyed Wisconsonates on whether
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: or not they wanted the deal to pass. I don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: think I've ever seen a Marquete Law pool. This lapsided
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: on anything. Ever, eighty percent supported it. That means eighty
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: percent didn't get what they wanted. It was across the board.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: The numbers were different by a percentage or two, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: more than eighty percent of Republicans support I don't have
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the exact number of Friday, it was right around eighty percent,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: both of Republicans, Democrats, and independents. First of all, every
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: especially in the economy right now with gas prices, one
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: of the rebate checks for the people who pat property taxes.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: They're screaming for any kind of relief. And then the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: people that support all this money for the schools, when
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: are they going to get the Republicans to commit hundreds
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of millions more in school aid? Yet the deal failed.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: This brings us to the question of who's going to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: be harmed by the legislature not passing something that eighty
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: percent supported. Some believe the big losers are going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: be State Assembly Republicans. Why well, Assembly Republicans, they all
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: wanted it, and even some Assembly Democrats wanted it because
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: but while it passed their chamber didn't pass in the Senate.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Because it didn't pass, they can't run around as they
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: run for reelection, holding all these rebate checks and saying
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I did this, I did this, I did this, even
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: though they wanted to do it, and they control the Assembly,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they now lose the ability to brag about this great
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: thing that they got done. Over in the state Senate,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: half the members of the Senator are for election. We
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: have the redrawnb legislative districts that now favor the Democrats.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Will a Republican that voted for this benefit, will a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Democrat that voted against it suffer? Now again, many of
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: them live in residing districts that are not close, they're
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: either very Democratic or very Republican districts. But in the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: swing districts there's probably going to be a ramification here.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Did the Democrats cost themselves a chance to take control
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of the state Senate by some Democratic senators killing this deal? Maybe,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But now there's the Tiffany factor. Tom Tiffany, Republican candidate
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: for governor, is not, by the way, to I forget
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: which station it was. One of the TV station's website
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: said that Tiffany voted against this deal. Tiffany's not in
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: this legislature, he had no vote. He's in the Congress,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: but he did oppose the deal. He urged Republicans to
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: vote against it. By the way, none of them listened
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to him, as they said, there were only three Republicans
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that opposed it, and I think all three of them
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: would have voted no regardless of what Tom Tiffany had
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to say. Steve nass is two of the senators who
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: left our lame ducks are not running for reelection. Steve
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: nass is one of them. He isn't going to vote
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: for anything that spends more money on the schools. You
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: have Rob Hutton who's Wavatosa Brookfield. He's not running for reelection.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Neither of them are going to be impacted by anything
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that Tiffany says. Chris Capping is the final one, very
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: conservative guy. I don't think Tiffany's position is the reason
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: he voted against it, but there are many and I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: one of them. I think that this was a terrible
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: miscalculation by Tiffany, even though the Democrats primarily killed this bill.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm telling you right now, this is what's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: going to happen. I'm never wrong, by the way, about
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: these things. Jason, you're a talk show host. You can
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: mark this down and steal my point and just claim
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: that you came up to you on your own steal it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Like two months from now, when we get into the
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: general election, which will be after the August primary in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: which got all these Democrats running, I guarantee you the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Democrats are going to run ads attacking Tom Tiffany running
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: for governors, saying Tom Tiffany is the reason you didn't
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: get a tax cut. Even though all the Democrats voted
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: against it, They're going to blame it on Tiffany because
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: he opposed it. I'm always concerned about who Republican candidates
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: hire as their advisors. The reason I'm concerned about this
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: is there's not a much dumber group of people in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: America then the people who serve as consultants and advisors
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: for Republican candidates for public office. A few of them
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: are very good, most of them are bad, and some
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of them stink. Tiffany actually could have gotten away with
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: saying nothing because he's not involved in this. He's not
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: in the Legislatureney's not the governor. But he shot off
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: his mouth and said vote against it. Now again, I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: don't think he had anything to do with them killing it,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: but this is what their ad is going to be
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: now that especially, they know that everybody wanted this thing passed.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So who the political blame goes to for not passing
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: something that apparently everybody wanted, well twenty percent wanted. Is
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: on its face, you would think that the blame would
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: go to the Democrats since they were the ones that
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: opposed it. But in the minds of the voter out there,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: but at Tony Ebres is a Democrat and it was
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: his plan. It's complicated. I think Tom Tiffany's a spectacular candidate.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: For governor for all of the reasons that I've gone to.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: The Democrats are nominating a Marxist. But in Wisconsin, Republicans
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: cannot afford to make what I will call unforced errors.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Is that a tennis term? Unforced error? Yeah? I think
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you know, if you like miss your serve or something,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: or you've got to clean, it's not because the other
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: player met a great shop. Your volley just misses and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: goes out of bounds. It's a unforced There, Tiffany didn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: need to get involved in something like this that if
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: he was, he should have. And again, this isn't rocket science.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't most people who are taxpayers. No, again, if
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you're very ideologically driven like me, you can roll the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: dice and say, maybe Tiffany's gonna win, we keep control
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: of the legislature, will take the whole surplus for tax
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: relief and stop giving any of it to the schools.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But this was one of those deals. And it happens
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: when you got a lot of money layer around me,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and we have a lot of money laying around because
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: we're taxing people too much. In which you can give
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: one side what they want and both sides that they
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: want and nobody paid anything. That's why people supported this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: If this was like lowering one tax and raising another
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to pay for more money for the schools. But for
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the people who are going to get the property tax relief,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: do they wish that it was more. Yeah, but they're
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: not going to say I don't want this money and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want the rebate check. And likewise, the people
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: support the schools theirs, I'll take all this money. So again,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: if you're somebody, and again, Phillips, the Democrats that voted
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: against this, they think they're going to win the governorship,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: they think they're going to take over the legislature. They're
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: full of themselves right now, and maybe they will. And
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: they thinking, Okay, we'll pass the whole thing and we'll
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: just spend all of it and give it all to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the schools. We want to do it, And that's where
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: they're coming from. That's why they all voted no. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I think from the perspective of Tiffany, remember tiffany belief.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: If Tiffany wins, he doesn't want this surplus all gone.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: He wants to come in and use it for tax
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: relief when he's the governor. But he might not wed
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and by opposing this now I think it's going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: be used against him, albeit unfairly, because as I say,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think that Tom Tiffany had anything to do
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: with this thing faily, because only three Republicans voted against it,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: and I don't think he was the reason that any
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of them voted against it. Let me move to this story,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Ted Oswald cop killer. This is one of the most
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: famous murder cases in southeastern Wisconsin in the last fifty years.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I still remember the afternoon that I was doing the show.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Had happened in the morning in Walkeshaw. It was a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: bank robbery that turned into a police pursuit of the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: two suspects and then a shootout involving the police and
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the suspects. A police officer was killed, captain from Waukeshaw,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: City of Waukeshaw, Nott Waukershaw County, although multipleple jurisdictionary responding.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: It was a Walkershaw police captain James Lutz, who was
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: shot and killed. The two robbers were our father and son,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: James and Ted Oswald. Ted is the son. He's now fifty.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Tells you how long ago this happened was in ninety four, Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four, Ted Oswald is asking to have his
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: sentence commuted. He and his father were Wisconsin. For those
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: of the outside of Wisconsin does not have the death penalty,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: so they are both sentenced to life in prison without parole.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Tony Evers signed an executive order a few weeks ago,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and an executive order it's the same thing Trump uses
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: all the time. An executive order has the effect of
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: law if there is no law on the books that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: addresses the issue. So Evers signed an executive order giving
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: him the authority to commute sentences. What has commuter sent ended?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: So while we got rid of arole in Wisconsin, Evers
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is creating this other concept, commutation. It's like a pardon.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: A commutation means I'm not pardoning you. I'm just letting
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you out a pardon. And you know, public officials have
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: their philosophy on this. Obama had a zillion pardons, Clinton
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: had a zillion pardons. Trump is azillion pardons. Scott Walker,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: when he was the governor, knew how many pardons he issued. None,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: He didn't believe in him. He pardoned nobody. These are
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: not pardons, they're commutation. A commutation is exactly this. Let's
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: suppose you've served your sentence to life, You've served thirty
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: one years. You're commuted. Doesn't mean you're not guilty. It
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: means you just get to get out. Evers, with an
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: executive order signed himself the ability to do this. The
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: people that have these life without parole type sentences are
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: often not just regularly, certain murders just become more horrifying
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: than others. Daryl Brooks, for example, Well, a lot of
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the cop killing sentences are along these lines. Ted Oswald
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: is claiming, I was under this way of my father.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I was just a kid, he was nineteen, et cetera.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Now I'm a different guy, and so on. So he's
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: asking Evers to commute his sentence. Now that Evers has
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: signed this thing giving himself this authority. Here's another thing
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to tell you right now, and I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: going to guarantee it with my reputation. Do you know
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: when Evers is going to do these commutations? You all
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: ought to know this. But there's a reason why I'm
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: doing the podcasting. You're all just measley listeners to the podcast,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and that is because I know the answer. We're really
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: smart people. Back when I at the radio show, and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you could call it this is when the lines would
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: be lighting up, the people trying to claim that they
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: knew the answer. I would often pick on my former
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: producer Paul and say, do you know what he's going
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: to do? And Paul would not, of course know the answer.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: But there's again a reason I'm in here and he
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: was in there, So here's the answer. After the November election,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Tony Evers is going to hand down commutations like crazy
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: because there's nothing anybody can do about it. Now. Evers
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: is a lame dock. He's not running for re election anyway.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: But if he issued the commutations now, they could become
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: a campaign issue for whomever the Democrat is that's running.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: They could become a campaign issue in which Republicans use
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: against Democrats running for the legislature. By Evers waiting until
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: that period, and again, it's just like the president, we
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: swear in the new governor of Wisconsin. The first business
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: day we know president is January twentieth. The governor Wisconsin
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: is the first business day after New Year's Day. That's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: when the governor sworn in the election is the first
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Tuesday in November. It gives you about eight weeks in
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: November and December. That's when Ebers is going to do
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the commutations. So they're all anybody who's eligible is now
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: requesting Why wouldn't you You thought you were doomed, You
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: thought you were in the jug for the rest of
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: your life, and now Evers has given himself this power,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: and why would he give himself that power unless he
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: intended to use it? Now I don't know if Oswald
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: specifically will be let out. It was one of the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: most heenous cases imaginable. Kill the cop because you wanted
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: to get away with robbing a bank. I mean, they
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: robbed the bank, the cops came upon him. They weren't
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: going to get away with it. Rather than go to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: jail for robbing the bank, which is a pretty significant sentence,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: but it's not life. They got him the shootout with
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: the cop and killed the police officer just because they
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: weren't willing to do time for robbing the bank. It's
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: one of I'm not saying that murder ever has any justification,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: but there's no mitigation here. This wasn't somebody in rage
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: with a spouse or a bad marriage, or this was
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go to prison for ten years,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna kill the cop which trying to apprehend me.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: You are listening to the one an only Mark Belling podcast.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. I want to revisit
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a topic that we discussed. I remember when it was.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: It wasn't yet this year. It was in season one.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: There are different times in which this kind of copy
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: comes up, and I'm gonna use a specific example here.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine you live in any community, any city that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you want to have. Just about every city borders another city.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it borders a rural area, so it's one or
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the other. You have to border something. When I lived
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: in Kakana, when the north side of town bordered Little Shoe,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the south side of town bordered Kimberly, and the east
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: side of town bordered farms that was undeveloped area. But
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: on the other side there were two other municipalities. Combined
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Locks got itself in there as well. Believe it or not,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Combined Locks is a suburb of Kimberly. You wouldn't think
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the Kimberley could have a suburb, but that's what Combined
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Locks is. Anyway, let's imagine I'll just use the example
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of the north side of Kakanae or on the Kaikana
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Little Shoote line. Let's imagine Little shoot decides they want
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: to approve something right on their side of the line. Now,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: let's go to Milwaukee and Waukeshaw County. One hundred and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: twenty fourth Street is the dividing line between Milwaukee and
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw Counties. On the west side of Milwaukee, east side
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: of Waukeshaw on a stretch of that, on the east
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: side of one hundred and twenty fourth Street, you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the east side of the street is Wabatosa. You cross the street,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: you're at Brookfield. You go further up in their other communities.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine Brookfield decides they want to do something on
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the west side of the street. You live on the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: east side of the street. What say do you have
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: in it? Nothing? Because you don't live there. This is
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: quite an interesting story. Now, what happens when you've got
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: two communities that are butting up against one another, and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: one community green lights and goes ahead with something that
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the other community really doesn't want. Should an adjacent community
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: have any input on something that goes on in the
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: other community. I've been contacted by, and the story is
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: being raised in news coverage. It's been covered quite extensively
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: in southeastern Wisconsin. It's the Brick complex. It's to be
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: located in big bed. We're talking here in the area
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: of southern Waukeshaw County. This is an area that years
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: ago was very rural, and not just farmland rural, off
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: in woods rural. But Waukashaw County is booming. The sprawl
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that has occurred. There is this kind of story that's
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: happening all over the United States, and this portion in
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Waukashaw County is going from almost entirely undeveloped to rapidly
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: becoming developed. There are a lot more people that live there,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: but there are still some areas that are not developed.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But when you have people that are out there in
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: these areas, and we're now talking a pretty good chunk
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: away from the city of Milwaukee, they want to have
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: facilities and things to do, and often it means retail
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: comes in. The retail though usually occurs along a main
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: drag and people on the you know, like for example,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: in Waukashaw County, lots of stuff just north and south
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: of Interstate ninety four. There isn't much residential right on
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the interstate. But now let's talk about getting away from
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it a bit. The proposal in Big bad And is
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: for an enormous sports complex. These things, there's already a
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: couple of them in our area, and they're popping up
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: all over the United States. Baseball complex stuff like that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: The complex could, theoretically, in the future contain more than
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: just sports. You could, and this isn't in the proposal,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: have an entertainment portion of it and so on. This
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is similar to, but not the same as, what's going
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: on in Franklin. Franklin has this big athletic and entertainment
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: complex called the Rock, and the people in Franklin love
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the Rock, and a lot of people in southeast Wisconsin
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: love the Rock. It's a great facility. But the people
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: who live right near the Rock can't stand all the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: noise in the traffic from the concerts and the events,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and they don't like it. But if you live two
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: miles away, it's great to have something this close. Well,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: now let's go here in that community. All the people
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: involved there from Franklin. This proposal is to build this
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: sports complex in Big Bend right next. I would make
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: fun of the name Big Bend. But as I say,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I live four months of the year in Florida, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the names of our communities down there are humiliatingly stupid.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I live in Sunny Isles Beach. You should look at
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: the ones that are around. Some of the ones that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: are land to have okay names like Kassimi. That's a
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: good I'm assuming Native American name. But a lot of
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: these communities at Florida will have names that make it
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: sound like they're in Arizona. Arizona's the worst. They're like
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Paradise Valley and Sun City. Anyway, Big Bed, you know
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: why they call it big Bed. Somewhere around there, some
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: river took a bed Big Bed. Next to Big Bend
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: is Vernon, rather rural, undeveloped, still rather quiet area, the
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: residence of Vernon and also the residence of the village
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: of Waka Shaw. Now this is not to be I
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: just I think we should pass along Wisconsin that you
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: can't have two communities with the same name. It gets confusing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: The city of Waukeshaw, they're not involved in this. Some
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: of the area to the outside of Waukeshaw is the
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: village of Waukeshaw used to be the town. They incorporated
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: a stop annexations, so the Village of Waukeshaw is largely
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: rural area. Outside of Waukeshaw, the other community is the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: village of Vernon. People who live in that portion of
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the Village of Waukeshaw on the Village of Vernon are
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: going nuts over this proposal in Big Bed. They don't
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: want it. But it's not in Vernon, it's not in
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the Village of Waukeshaw. It's in Big Bed, and they
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: are appealing to someone, anyone to assist them in stopping this.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: They're saying, this is way too big for this part
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: of the region. I'm going to share one listener's email
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: to me. I won't read his name. I don't like
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: to do that. Mark. I was a huge fan of
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: your radio show for many years and now on avid
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: podcast listener. It's very nice for him to say, could
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: be tactical. This is his way of trying to get
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: me on his side. It's nice to say. I wanted
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: to ask if you are aware, I am aware of
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a very large sports complex plan for the village of
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Big Bend. And a parcel of property bordering two other communities,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: the village of Waukisha on the village of Verden. The
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: plan development is enormous. You know, some people exaggerate that
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: it's really it is really big. A quick online search
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and he's right. This has been widely covered and you
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: can find all the details. What amazes me is how
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a three person planning commission in a neighboring community can
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: approve a project which is going to impact so many
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: homeowners who live in neighboring communities, the vast majority of
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: which are not in favor of the development. Now, he
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: raises some points. In many of our smaller communities around here,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you don't have the same and it's a good thing.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: You don't have the same infrastructure of government. For example,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: City of Brookfield. I mean Brookfield's a city. There's a
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: full time mayor, think he's full time city council large members,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and they've got lots of city commissions. Brookfield being a
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: very developed community, They've got zoning, there's all sorts of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: questions over mixed use, they got a city planning, they
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: have this set of the other thing. Some of the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: smaller communities that we have obviously have smaller staffs, and
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: they have small boards. Apparently, the planning commission in Big
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Bend is three people. They approve this, so you're giving
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of power to small planning boards and small
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: village boards. In this case, though, the thing that's frosting
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the other people is they're not even in that community
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and they see these three people over there in Big Bend,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and you could say, well, what's in it for Big
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: ben Well, here's the Senate for Big Bend. Everybody's got
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: high property taxes. You get all this development in here.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: So maybe they believe that this development is going to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: result in an increase in the property base. They can
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: therefore tax the individuals that are coming in and the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: developments that will occur to lower their own taxes. But
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: it doesn't lower the taxes of the two adjacent communities
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: because the property taxes aren't paid to them, They're only
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: paid to Big Bed. What amazes me is how a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: three person planning commission in a neighboring community can approve
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: a project which is going to impact so many homeowners
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: who live in neighboring communities, the vast majority which are
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: not in favor of the development. Residents in Waukashana. He
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: means the village of Waukesha and Vernon. Don't view this
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: as your typical not in my backyard opposition. The proposed
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: location of this development is a mostly a rural area.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: It's not meant to improve the lives of local residents.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Possibly it creates future tax revenue for Big Bend, at
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: what cost to it and neighboring communities. It's been reported
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that many studies traffic, noise, pollution, and others have been
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: by passed the fast track develement. I can't verify that,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: but the entire proposal seems odd. I would love to
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: hear from you on this well. Various news reports and
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I have a story here from TMJ four, Fox six
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: and so on. The residents a Big Band apparently are split.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Now again, this is according to reporting I've read that
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I've not done any independent reporting of my own. So
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Big Band is split, but the other two communities are
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly opposed. I'm not proposing a position on this, but
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting thing to consider. Should residents
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: of adjacent communities have any say in these kinds of things? No, Normally,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I would say clearly not. Wahwatosa doesn't get to stop
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Brookfield from doing what Brookfield wants to do because Wahwatosa
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: is at Brookfield. And let's imagine Elm Grove wants to
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: do something. Should Brookfield, which borders Elm Grove, be able
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: to stop that? If the United States wants to do something,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: should Canada be able to stop us? It becomes however,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that principle is pretty unarguable. If
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: you live in a community, you should be able to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: control what goes on in your community. But when something
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: happens right on a border, and that something is something
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: that's huge and radically alters the way of life of
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the region, you know, the community line maybe in a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: certain place, but you're talking about a way of life
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: and the kind of setting that you're in. The sports
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: complex is so large. It's not going to be for
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: the people of big men. They'll be part of those
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that use it. But this is going to attract young
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: people and athletic groups and all of the people that
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: are going to use the sports complex from all over
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Southeast and Wisconsin. Now, there's a tremendous desire for these things.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Anywhere you go in the country. You see these big
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: sports complexes way away from cities in metro areas. The
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: first thing that has to happen is they've got to
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: And you might say, well, why don't they do it
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: in a more developed area. Well, if you want to
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: do something this big, you have to take something that
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: currently isn't used for anything. You can't go into the
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: city of Waukeshaw and buy up a huge chunk of
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: land of stuff that's already being used. What's going to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: be easier to develop is something that's currently only farmland
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: or woods, so it's going to be in an undeveloped area.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: This is the same argument that occurs all the time
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: with sprawl. I mean, you go back forty and fifty
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: years people who first the first one is to move
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: to Brookfield. They were moving to farmfields. Brookfield is now
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: as urban as the city of Milwaukee is, and a
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: lot of people who move to an area that's relative.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: You see the same argument out there in the Sussex
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: area West Benz, a sling of Richfield and so on,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: the community south of West mend All of these debates
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: go on. People want to get away from all the
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: hustle bustle of the noise of the city, but once
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: they get there, they want to be the last one
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: who comes. And the next thing you know, you're sitting
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: at the stop and go light and slip for five
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: minutes rather than fifteen seconds because there's way more people there.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: But at least in those instances, Slinger can decide what's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: in Slinger, and monomine Falls can decide what's in Monominee Falls.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: When something is right on the line and completely changes
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: the atmosphere of the area, it certainly can be true.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure in Big Bend itself this is pitting
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: people against one another. Someone who live there wanted some don't.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: And usually the way it works is if you live
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a mile and a half away, you're completely in favorite.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: If you live right next door, you totally don't want it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: But imagine the people who are griping here but have
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: no say at all. Should they have a say, It's
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: hard for me to figure out how we can properly
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: allow them to say. I mean, the borderline is the borderline.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: On this side of the line is the other community,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: and communities should be able to determine their fate. I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: understand the difficulty for people who their own community doesn't
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: want to have any kind of development. They want to
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: keep things the way they are. But right next door
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: to them, somebody's trying to turn it into a metropolis.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Texas. We have yet another case of
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: a Republican incumbent, in this case a United States Senator
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: thrown out of office, and once again it was the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Trump endorsed candidate who beat him. Now there's an asterisk
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: to this. I think Trump endorsed Bill Paxton the winner
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: when he figured out the paston was going to win anyway.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Cornyan John Cornyn is a longtime senator from Texas. Remember
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: senators serve six year terms. I won't say he's a rido,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: but he's certainly not mega. He has voted with the president.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I would say it almost not everything, almost everything. There
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: are a couple of issues, though, in which he hasn't
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that's stuck in Trump's craw
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: was again you go back to January sixth of twenty twenty.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Coynan was not one of those who voted to convict
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: and remove Trump from office, but he did criticize Trump.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Trump is still furious over the false blame that he
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: got for January six. So, okay, now here's Paxton. He's
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: the Attorney General of Texas. He's more of a mega
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: type Republican than Cornon. You could even see it by
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: looking at him. Cornin looks like he walks straight out
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of the country club. I mean, he can't help, but
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: that's how he looks. And Paxton looks like he walks
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: straight out of a Magarelly. Paxton has baggage. He's very
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: controversial in Texas, but he's really loved by the majority
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: of Conservatives. So Paxton decides, I'm gonna run against Cornon.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: In Texas, they have the runoff system in their prime.
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  Speaker 2: You have to get fifty percent of the vote in
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: order to win, so there were more than the two
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: of them running. There were some WULSA rans in there
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: as well, so they held the primary. Nobody got over
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the vote, but corning Paxton, that's the challenge.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: You got more than Cordon, so they have a runoff,
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  Speaker 2: a head on head primary. The only two that are
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  Speaker 2: on the ballot are Paxton and Courted. A couple of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, Trump endorsed Paxton. Paxton was leading in the pools,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: but it was close. I believe that Trump endorsed Paxton
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: because he thought Paxton was going to win. So let's
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: get Paxton on his side and take credit when Paxton
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  Speaker 2: does win. They held the election despite what the polls said.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't close. Paxton destroyed Cordon. He beat him by
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: twenty six points. So Paxton is going to be the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Republican nominee for the United States Senate. Once again, Well,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I acknowledge. I don't think that Trump gets the credit
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: for Paxton winning. I think Paxton was going to win anyone.
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  Speaker 2: I think Trump is responsible for the margin. The polls
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: were two, three, four, five points, it was twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: So again, I think that for all of the arguments
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: that are coming from some on the right that Trump
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: has lost the MAGA base and the Republicans have turned
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: their backs on Trump, the Trump endorsement is still golden.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: In Republican primaries. He keeps beating the people, mostly these
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: old bull establishment types that he doesn't like. A week earlier,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: in Kentucky, the exact opposite type of Republican, Thomas Massey was,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: if anything, true conservative for Trump. He was a purest
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: libertarian and didn't and thought that Trump was modeling you know,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: moving too much in the middle and certain things didn't
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: support the war, et cetera, and Massey became one of these.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: It was just always voting against Trump, claiming that Trump
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: was selling out Mega Trump supported the opponent to Massey.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Massey lost. If you're a Republican who bucks Trump, the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: majority of Republican voters are going to throw you out.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Here's what's problematic. Texas isn't a swing state, but it's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: getting there. What's happening in Texas is you have such
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: a migration inward from California and other places, and there
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: are so many major universities, government institutions, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: Texas presents an outstanding way of life. The big cities
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: in Texas are democratic. Dallas and Houston in particular are
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: very democratic cities. San Antonio less so. But some of
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: these metro areas, in the suburbs of some of these
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: communities the same kind of suburbanites you say have on
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: our north shore here. Then you add in the large
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: immigrant population, including some illegals. It's not allowed legal for
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: them to vote, but they may be voting. Texas is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: going from say a sixty to forty Republican state. Ted
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Cruz ran for reelection in the most recent election. I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: think you went by with seven or eight points when
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Trump defeated Kamala. This is off the top of my head.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: It was not close. I think it was like ten
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: or eleven points, But it wasn't like a thirty nine
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  Speaker 2: or forty point kind of state. It's the type of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: state where the Democrats have been getting closer and they
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: think that they could win. They believe that Paxton, who
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: has baggage and has made a number of statements that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: are clearly more mega than say cornyin will alienate some
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: suburban voters. They're going to portray him as extreme. If
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: there are some who are concerned that Texas could go Democrat,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: it's the same concern that occurred in Georgia. Georgia, another
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: state that had been solidly Republican, has been becoming Democratic
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: over the years. Both United States senators from Georgia Democrats.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: You saw the whole disastrous election that occurred in twenty twenty.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: They're the Trump lost. They had to have two runoffs.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: They had two seats at the same time because there
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: was a vacancy, the Republican candidates were unpopular. They lost
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: both of the seats Republicans had a heart have had
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: a hard time putting up or candidate who can appeal
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: to the swing voters. If you have an overwhelmingly Republican state,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: you don't need to worry about swing voters. But when
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: you have a state like Georgia, you need somebody Wisconsin
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: is the same thing. You need a Republican who has
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: the ability to get moderates to vote for you, and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: the Democrats need the same thing. Democrat has to be
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: able to get moderates to vote for them. It's certainly
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: possible that by choosing Paxton, the Republicans could lose the seat.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, if Paxton wins, you'll get someone
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: who is more solidly pro Trump in that seat than
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: they had with Cornin So, without regard to whose strategic
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: you should have voted for, the takeaway from it again
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: is obvious. If Trump is opposing you in a Republican primary,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: you are probably going to lose. And again without regard
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: to what anybody thinks about the war anything else pertaining
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: to Trump, I'm just reporting what's happening here. Trump endorses someone,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: the vast majority of Republicans are going to back the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: candidate Trump endorses, even if it was someone that they
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: had voted for repeatedly in years past. All right, now
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: this the loose. Do you know what the loose is?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: I asked, Jason. You're doing as badly on these questions
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: as Paul. But I'm part of it. Is I asked
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  Speaker 2: the question, and I don't think that you're gonna know
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  Speaker 2: the answer. You just still look to me like a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Ferrari guy. You're not a Ferrari guy, are you. If
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: you had the money, would you be a Ferrari guy.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be. See, Ferraris are like first of all,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: not only cannot most people not afford them, they're also
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: a cult. If you see somebody who drives a Ferrari,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the car before that was a Ferrari,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: and the one before that was a Ferrari. Obviously there's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: a first one, but some people who buy Ferraris almost
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: always stick with Ferraris forever. Part of it is Ferrari's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: a brilliantly run company. They obviously they're not a mass marketer,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but they limit their production. They limit it enough that
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  Speaker 2: they can make money. It's large enough that they can
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: make money, but they make the cars hard to get.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Often to buy a new Ferrari, you have to already
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: own a Ferrari to get on the allocation for the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: next car. When they introduce a car, there's often a
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: waiting list of year to eighteen months for you to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: get in line to get the car, and often you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: have to be a Ferrari owner to get in line
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: for that vehicle. So they developed tremendous loyalty over the years,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: and undeniably it's a great product. Like every other automobile maker,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and a lot of the exotic automobile makers are embracing
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: electric My own belief is that the electric vehicle thing,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: which certainly had peaked a year and a half ago,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: is going to have another boom. If gas prices are
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: this high by the end of the year and again,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to go down. I think they
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: go down when the war is over. But I'm not
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: convinced that I could be wrong. If gas prices dropped
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: like say a bucket a quarter a gallon by the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: end of the year, I don't think that this is
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: going to do anything for electric vehicles. If they stay
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: where they are, the EV thing is going to kick
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: in again, and you saw. You know, the big push
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: that occurred with Tesla occurred when when you had the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: really really high of gasoline prices that were in place
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: under Biden. Then gas prices crashed and suddenly people didn't
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: think gasoline powered cars were all that bad after all.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Now gas prices have exploded again. But on the high
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: end of the market, all the automakers are including electric
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: vehicles in their line. Mercedes is a bunch of them,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Porsche has a bunch of them, and the reason for
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: them is these vehicles, I mean, style and power is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: their whole thing. And EV technology is simply superior to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: gasoline technology. The evs don't require a transmission that spurts
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: in this amount of power, and that amount of power
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: it can apply instantly. You don't have to have a
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: gasoline engine. The electric vehicle has almost infinite amounts of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: battery power, and if they're trying to create these vehicles
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: that just go really, really fast, it's a better way
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: of doing it than the gasoline engines. On the other hand,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: many people who drive cards like Ferrari and Porsches, they
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: like the gasoline powers vehicles just fine, so you have
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: to offer both. Ferrari has never had an ev until
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: now they're naming it the Loose. Now, you might say
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: that's a dumb name. See if you're an exotic car company, though,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: every name they choose seems to be a dumb name
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: because they want to have a name that doesn't sound
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: like anything else. Some of the cars, some of the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: exotic car companies, they just have letters for their names,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Like all the Mercedes cars are just letters. A lot
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: of them are letters. BMW's are numbers. Ferrari, though, always
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: has a name The Loose now one of the things
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that has made Ferrari Ferrari. You know they're Italian. The
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Italians are just great. It's stuff that looks good. I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: mean they are. I mean, if you Italian food not
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: only tastes great, it looks good on the plate. Italian clothing,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: the men's wear, the Italian arc, Italian Italian art, anything
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: that's visual. The Italians excelient and Ferraris are beautiful vehicles.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Here's the Loose now. I hate to be one of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: those people that because everybody says something's ugly, I'm gonna
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: say it's ugly. A lot of people are like that.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: They don't have any taste of their own so when
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: people say something is ugly, they just jump in and say, yeah,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: it's ugly, or the opposite. When everybody says something is attractive,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: they'll say that it's attractive because they don't know any better.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: The loose is being ridiculed for its appearance. Now you're
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: gonna have to look this up online and you can
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: all do it. I'm just I am astonished by this.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: This is you know, a lot of times when you
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: create a new look on something, it's just that it's jarring,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: and a few years later every automaker has turned out
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: copying you. You know, BMW got a lot of heat
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: years ago for the Bengal butt on their vehicles, putting
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: this big inflated rear end on the cars, and Chris Bangle,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: who was kind of went to school in Wisconsin. He
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: was the design chief for BMW and to put this
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: big rear ends kind of the softened curves and the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: BMW's weren't boxy anymore. Then every luxury maker or die
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Bengal got fired. But he turned out to be ahead
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: of his time because that type of look on the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: cars continued forever. Same things happened with regard to the grills, that.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: You know, Toyota and Lexus started to put in like
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: this mean looking grill, and people thought it was too
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: mean looking. And now every grill is aggressive, so you
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: can create a look on a vehicle that is just
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: too It's occurring before you're used to it, and five
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: years later you become accustomed to it because everybody's copied it.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: I suppose that could happen here. I'm just telling you
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: this is one of the ugliest, now, the one the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal has here. It's like a light. It's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: a pros between pink and purple. So the color is
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: weird to begin with, but the grill on it is. Remember,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: electric vehicles don't need an air intake, so if they
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: create a grill, it's just for looks. You know, Tesla
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: has no grill. Tesla just decided, you know Musks who
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: makes his vehicles to look all like one another, and
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: they're very utilitarian. Tessa's all look to me, just generic.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: But that's the look that he's looking for. He's not
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: doing this for style, He's doing it for the purposes
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: of just making a superior audibobile. Well, Ferrari, part of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: the whole thing is look, so it's not really a grill.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: It's just like there's a fold it indentation in the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: front of the car that creates an appearance of being
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: a grill. And then the front windshield goes almost all
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the way covering where the hood is, so there's like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: glass over the top of remember, because there's not an engine
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: in there, it's not covering anything. Then there's this side thing. Well,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: the car is being mocked and ridiculed online. It's so
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: bad that yesterday and again I'm doing the podcast. On Wednesday,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Ferrari stock went down like five percent. For all of
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: these exotic car manufacturers, their growth is going to be
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: an evs. There's very little reason that anybody news is
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: going to come around and start driving Ferraris or Porsches
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: and so on. In order to get a newer market,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: they've got to add something they don't currently have and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: match what everybody else is doing and have an electric
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: vehicle as part of their offering. And it seems like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: people on the very higher end are more into electric vehicles,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: and on the lower end there are certainly, I think
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: way more people that spend one hundred thousand dollars on
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: a car interested in buying an ev than somebody spends
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars in a car and Ferrari doesn't
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: have that many models. This one is apparently so ugly
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: that people think it's going to be the one Ferrari
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: that won't sell. We'll see whether or not it does
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: or it does it. There's a photo here of they
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: gifted one of them to Pope Leo. Where do they
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: give the Pope? What would you give the poper Ferrari? Well,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: they are I'm just is so here you got Pope
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Leo standing next to a CEO of Ferrari and then
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: the loose So you can look it up and decide
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: for yourself. But I agree with the critics. I think
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: it's pretty ugly. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. We are in the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: early stages of this story, so it's hard to see
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: how it's going to play out, but it is certainly
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: possible that the Green Bay Packers have lost one of
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: their best players. Josh Jacobs, the star running back one
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: of the best running backs in the National Football League,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: was arrested and is now criminally charged over the weekend
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: in Green Bay with domestic abuse Jacobs, through his attorney,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: is adamantly denying it. Now, it isn't a specific denial,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: and we're not going to see that until the case
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: moves forward, if it moves forward, is he denying all
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: of it, some of it, or as he's saying, I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't the aggressor don't know. The packers have OTAs this week.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: That's it's not like training camp a couple of times
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: a year the players come and have like team workouts
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: and so on, and that's why they're all up in
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Green Bay. According to the criminal complaint, or at least
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: the charging information that's been released so far, Jacobs is
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: accused of domestic abuse in connection with an incident that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: occurred over the weekend. Among the charges that are against
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: him are strangulation, criminal damage to property, intimidating a victim, battery,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: disorderly conduct, and then strangulation and suffocation. But there's no
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: specific on it yet in which it's specifically and again
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this podcast on Wednesday afternoon. There's nothing that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: specifically describes how he supposedly suffocated and strangled. We don't
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: have a defense of him other than his attorney saying
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: he denies all of it. Is this going to be
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: a case of sexual contact in which there is discussion
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: over consensual or not? Is the suffocation strangulation? Is Jacob's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: going to claim that this was like a sex game
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: kind of thing that people do, or is he going
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: to claim it never happened at all and the victim
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: is making it up. Now, we certainly know that there
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: are cases like this where athletes are accused of things
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: that they don't do. There are also cases like this
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: in which athletes do terrible things to women because they
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: think they can get away with anything. We don't know
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: which of the two it's going to be. If Jacobs
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: takes a conviction, as some other athletes have done, he's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: facing the likelihood of a lengthy suspension from the NFL.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: But these cases have been handled all over the map.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: In many instances, the player and the victim reach an
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: accommodation out of court and the charges get dropped because
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: the victim no longer cooperates. If that happens, would it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: impact any NFL action with regard to Jacobs? Again, none
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: of this we know. We also don't know if it
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: is indeed a true allegation. I don't know. There are
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: almost no specifics here at all, And again, there may
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: be by the time you hear this, but I haven't
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: seen a specific criminal complaint that describes exactly how any
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: of it occurred. But the allegations he faces are obviously
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: serious that some of these terms battery, that's a very
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: broad category. Is this beating the hell out of someone?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Or is it shoving them around? Again, don't know. Is
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: it a push or is it a smack, the strangulation
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: of suffocation, there are different degrees of that. We just
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. I think Jacobs has
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: struck most people as being a pretty decent and a
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: good guy, but when you get involved in these situations,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: we also don't know, at least I don't at this point.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Don't know if the victim is someone that he has
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: had a known long term relationship with or is it
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: somebody that he met that night. And again, the denial
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: that came from the lawyer a very very strong terms,
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  Speaker 2: total denial, But there aren't any specifics about the incident
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: or a specific kind of explanation by Jacob's as to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: what occurred. If the case does go forward, which means
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: that the victim has to continue to cooperate, and as
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  Speaker 2: we all know, in many of these cases they sop
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: uh operating often because a settlement has been reached. Just
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to play itself out. Not
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: another story. The Milwaukee Brewers are playing very, very well.
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  Speaker 2: The Brewers manager is everybody loves Pat Murphy. I think
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  Speaker 2: in part because of this. The Brewers on Tuesday night
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  Speaker 2: beat the Saint Louis Cardinals behind yet another strong pitching performance,
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  Speaker 2: this one from Kyle Harrison, and I think it's possible
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: that trade is going to go down. It's the best
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: trade in the history of the Milwaukee Brewers. It's possible.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: The Brewers got Kyle Harrison, Shane Grohan, who's also been
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: pitching very good, and David Hamilton at the moment is
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: the starting third baseman for a three bad third basemen.
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  Speaker 2: The key man that they gave up was Caleb Durban,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: who is just a disaster. Caleb appears to be a
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: one year wonder. He's hitting one sixty for Boston with
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: one home run, playing better as the other third basement
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: in the trade. Andrew Montis Stereo is now starting over
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Durban in Boston. He's hitting around twoin fifty and they
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: threw in another third basement named Anthony Segler. So the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Brewers threw three cast off third basemen, and they got
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: one of the best pictures in baseball, and Kyle Harrison,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: somebody who looks like he's going to be really good
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: in Shane Drohan, and at least a serviceable third basement
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: until they can get somebody better, and David Hamilton. Anyway,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Brewers won the game after your Rebay star Beef Fitcher
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: came in in the eighth intic. Now, apparently there was
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: some history to this which led to the incident. Urebae
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: allowed a couple of runners to get on base with
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of outs, and then he struck out the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: final guy to retire the side. And after he struck
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: him out. For those of you who don't know your Rebay,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: I've just sat in watching, I think he's nuts. I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: just think he's nuts, but kind of nuts in a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: good way. Some relievers are crazy, and your Rebay has this.
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  Speaker 2: He's very flamboyant out there in the mound, the way
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  Speaker 2: that he holds his glove in some of the histriotics
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  Speaker 2: that he has, he's flamboyant. He also is one of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: these guys that celebrates a lot after it. Oue, well,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: in this instance he did. It's described as a WWE
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: like crotch what did they call it? A crotch a
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: crotch dagger, So I guess he like what he went to.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of moving toward his crotch, throwing and shoving
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: his hands towards his crotch, and it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: things that you see some people do. The manager of
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers, Pat Murphy, ripped him after the game, saying
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: he can't stand it. He said that Urebae embarrassed himself
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: and embarrassed the team. A few hours later, Urebe apologize
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: said he shouldn't have done it. The first of all,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: there aren't many managers who will call out their player
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: for doing something like this after the player actually was successful.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: But Murphy's really old school. He's one of these guys
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  Speaker 2: who's willing to say that somebody made a jackass out
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: of himself, and he said that's what Uibe did. Uribe
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: did say, however, that there was some history to this,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: and I just figured that there had to be because
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I've never seen your rebay do this. He usually does
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: the fist pump and puts his hand into his glove
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: and so on. I've never seen him like jumping around,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: grabbing the crotch or anything like that, Ureba said. Prior
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: to the game, the Cardinals manager Carlos marmald got it
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: into it with some Brewers and was gesturing for players
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: before the game, implying that he was going to throw
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: at their heads. The Brewer Cardinal rivalry is one that's
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: had a fair amount of history to it. Now, I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's true or not. And Murphy said
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: he wasn't sure about it, but but your rebay said
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: it happened, and I'm going to take care of it
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: and defend my guys. There was also a situation where
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: somebody had a pitch thrown close to their head in baseball.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Now you're just and part of it is everybody throws
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: harder than they used to. But throwing at somebody's head
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: and brushing somebody back used to be part of the game,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: and now people take incredible offense at it and so on.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: But you learn a lot about Pat Murphy by the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he's not going to tolerate guys doing something
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  Speaker 2: like this. And Yurebe apologized as I do this program.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: The Chicago Cubs have now lost ten games in a row.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: The Cubs have played exactly one third of their season.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: It is almost mathematically impossible for this to be true,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: but it is. In one third of a season, the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Cubs have had two ten game winning streaks and one
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: ten game losing streak. First of all, it's just hard
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: to win or lose that many games in a row anyway. Secondly,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: they're doing it over a universe of only fifty four games.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: But third late, if you're good enough to win ten
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  Speaker 2: in a row twice, you wouldn't think it's possible you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: could be bad enough to lose ten in a row.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Only a few weeks later, they've gone from first place
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: to last place, and the losing streak now is. I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: do this podcast and Wednesday afternoon stands at ten. I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: have a suggestion, though, I believe if the Cubs lose
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: two more games, all their stupid fans have to come
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: to Wisconsin and buy us Hamburgers. I suppose they'll make
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: them white castles. We have our promotion that if the
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Brewers ever win twelve in a row, we get free
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Hamburgers from George Webb. So if the Cubs lose twelve
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: in a row, I think that they have to come
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: up here in give us Hamburgers. Having said that, that
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: probably means that the streak is going to end tonight,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: and I put a reverse jinx of the Cubs in
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: they'll come around and win if they don't start winning.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I do wonder if Craig Council is in trouble down there.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of complaining from their fans about Council,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: who is the highest paid manager in Major League Baseball history,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: infuriated Brewer fans when he left the Brewers to take
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: a forty million dollar contract over five years with the Cubs.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: It turned out to be one of those things that
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: was a blessing in disguise. I mean, Brewer fans love Murphy.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: The Brewers have been better since Council has go on.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I'm open to the possibility that the success that Craig
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: had at Milwaukee was because he was getting a lot
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: of input from Pat Murphy. When Council was hired, the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: first thing that he did is he hired Murphy to
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: be a dugout coach. Council's gone, the Brewers are better.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: He's gone to the Cubs and I'm not saying they've
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: been bad. They got off to a spectacular start this season.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: They were a playoff caliber team last year. We played
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: him in the playoffs, played him in the postseason. They
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: haven't been bad, but there's a lot of grumbling out there,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: and when a team hits these bad losing streaks, often
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: managers get fired. However, it would mean that the Cubs
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: would be on the hook. Unless there's a biote written
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: into Craig's contract, they'd be on the hook for twenty
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: million dollars. That's a lot to eat for a player,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: but to eat for a manager. Now again, with the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: buyot might mean that he doesn't get the full amount
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: of money, but he's got a forty million dollars five
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: year deal and he's one third of the way through
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: the third year, so he's made about eighteen of the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: forty million so far. If they got rid of him,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: does that mean that the Cubs he'd have to pay
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: twenty two million or is it simply that they would
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: never do that without regard to the dissatisfaction. It's also
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: possible to comes turn things around, but it's just weird.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: They started the season twenty and three and they're now
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: twenty nine and twenty six. The Brewer is back in
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: the They had the year. What year was that we
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: called the team streak. It was the year that they
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: opened the season with twelve wins in a row. They
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: won that Easter Sunday game with the two home runs
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: and the ninth inning, then one another one. They actually
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: won thirteen games to start the season and they lost
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: twelve later on in the season. That was the same
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: year that Paul Mallader had this really long what was it,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: thirty seven thirty nine games matter had a hitting streak
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: that was called team streaks, and the Brewers in one
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: year had a really long winning streak and a really
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: long losing streak. But the Cubs have had two long
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: winning streaks, one long losing streak, and we're only one
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: third of the way through the year. That's it for
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: today's podcast. Remember our schedule this Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: so I'm going to crank out another one, the weekend
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: big one at least sometime on Thursday. Talk to you soon.
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