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#282 - Zoe Osama · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Blue lay Cap Podcast special guests in here one of
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Speaker 1: the hottest in the city, Zoel Simons here. What is
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Speaker 1: the deal? Welcome man, I appreciate it, man. Of course
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Speaker 1: you've been doing your thing. Man, Man, I've been trying,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, day at the time, it's just I guess
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Speaker 1: it's starting to pay off. Congratulations on I see you
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Speaker 1: posting your numbers all the time and getting all these
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Speaker 1: huge playlists, replacements and what you would you say, because
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Speaker 1: I do feel like that is one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: uphill battles. It feels like for LA artists is to
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Speaker 1: kind of get the music industry is East Coast bias.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the people who curate these playlists are
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Speaker 1: East Coast bias. Like, what do you think is kind
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Speaker 1: of the secret to your success so far? Promote your
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Speaker 1: music NonStop, not just a few times a week or
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Speaker 1: for a month and then go on to the next song.
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Speaker 1: I think I promoted the song long enough to the
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Speaker 1: point that it was able to reach over there for
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Speaker 1: somebody to even put it on their platform, Because if
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Speaker 1: I just posted the shit a few times when it
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Speaker 1: came out, left alone, it wouldn't have touched no platforms
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Speaker 1: or playlist especially not organically right, you know. So, I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of artists coming up feel like if
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Speaker 1: the song don't take off in the first month, two
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Speaker 1: months top, that is a it's a dud. But that's
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Speaker 1: when they really be having it fucked up. If you're
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Speaker 1: an independent artist, are gonna probably least take you a
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Speaker 1: year or two to make one single move, if you know.
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Speaker 1: And that's the difference between the major and do it yourself. Yeah. No,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy because most people give up on hit records
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Speaker 1: before they become hits. I see it all the time.
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Speaker 1: You'll hear a record like, Yo, this is a fucking
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Speaker 1: hit record, but because it did not take off in
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Speaker 1: the first thirty days of it being released, a new
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Speaker 1: song next week. Yeah. Like, there's a dude from the Bay.
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Speaker 1: You probably heard of a stunner man who had a
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Speaker 1: big stepping record, and he's another that record every fucking day.
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Speaker 1: He's a prime example of what can happen. You see.
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Speaker 1: He got to the forty nine ers yep, and to
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Speaker 1: go to State Warriors. So that might be a song
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Speaker 1: he never have to work again off of, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you do, if you make it with if you
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Speaker 1: follow his protocol, like some artists is doing him and
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Speaker 1: Lo Russell and people like that, You're gonna win. Bro,
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Speaker 1: Do you pay attention to a guy like l Russell,
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Speaker 1: who I feel like has kind of, you know, in
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Speaker 1: my opinion, helped kind of guide a whole new generation
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Speaker 1: of like what it means to be independent. I fuck
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Speaker 1: with Larussell. Heavyl Russell is the Bay Area Nipsey hustle
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Speaker 1: with businessing and marketing and do it yourself. So's he's imfluent.
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Speaker 1: He's taking what Nipsey did and doing it and is
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Speaker 1: working for him. And he's showing you that with what
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Speaker 1: Nipsey was saying, he's proving to you guys, this ship's real. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I fuck with Larussell heavy. And that's a that's
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Speaker 1: really like a method that I'm going off of, you know,
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Speaker 1: and ship every day. We just we just keep on
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Speaker 1: pushing bro. That that's what it's all about. I just
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Speaker 1: really feel people be giving up too fast. What part
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Speaker 1: of LA are you from? I'm from South Central I'm
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Speaker 1: from I'm actually off the east side of South Central, Okay,
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Speaker 1: like Forrestone District. That's what's up. Do you feel like LA?
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Speaker 1: Because I always say it's like it seems like nowadays,
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Speaker 1: more than maybe like ten years ago, or even like
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Speaker 1: five or six years ago, a lot of the new
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Speaker 1: generation of LA artists, I wouldn't say put politics aside,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot more people are working
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Speaker 1: with each other, a lot more people are more open
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Speaker 1: to like supporting each other, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there are examples of that not being
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Speaker 1: the case, but do you feel like there's more of
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Speaker 1: a unified front amongst the younger guys in LA right now?
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Speaker 1: It's getting better? I said, like, this is probably a
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Speaker 1: big reason is a lot of the you know, a
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Speaker 1: lot of them guys is either dead or in jail
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Speaker 1: right now, So you don't we really got generations of
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Speaker 1: people that's not really like that, so the politics don't
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Speaker 1: matter as much to them, And then you have people
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Speaker 1: like me that just didn't been around the shit that
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Speaker 1: the politics is shit bullshit, right, you know, to a
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Speaker 1: certain extent. So I think in a way it's getting better.
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Speaker 1: But it's all carried off of how you carry yourself
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Speaker 1: as a man first, Because you can have the people
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Speaker 1: that's talking crazy that crazy things happen to or you
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Speaker 1: can have people like how Nip came in the game
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Speaker 1: that you know where you're from, staying on ten toes.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, it's respectful, we'll take the piece,
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Speaker 1: but we accept the war too, but we rather take
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Speaker 1: the piece because you're trying to get this bag. So
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Speaker 1: I just really think it's all all of the mentality
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Speaker 1: of how the person is and how the rapper is.
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Speaker 1: How did you get the Osama in your name? Because
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Speaker 1: obviously a legendary terrorist, uh right, right, Michael Jordan a terrorist,
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Speaker 1: but you see in the crazy thing about it, Michael
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Speaker 1: Jordan terrorists. The crazy thing about it is the name
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Speaker 1: on Simon means Lyon, Like yeah, I mean listen, right,
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Speaker 1: so I felt right. I mean, Barack's name is Barack
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Speaker 1: wit no, Hussein Obama. I'm tripping. See that was fucking
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Speaker 1: it was who says Hussein was in the middle Another
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Speaker 1: some might argue, legendary terrorists, You're a legend Baracks Cusain
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Speaker 1: Obama's a legend. Legendary terrors is crazy. But that's crazy,
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Speaker 1: like like damn, Like that's crazy. But like you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great rap name, it's a great name,
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Speaker 1: but like, what what made you, you know, stick with that?
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Speaker 1: It's like man, you're fucking blowing up these beats. But
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Speaker 1: every time you rap it is great actually in the way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess if you put it like that, But I
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Speaker 1: just like I went for the the definition of you know, lying,
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's how I stand. But you know,
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Speaker 1: you've got other people using the same name for the
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Speaker 1: legendary terrors. You talk the guy from Chicago, right, well,
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Speaker 1: yeah he's hard too about the fire, nice kid too,
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Speaker 1: he go up. But you know a lot of people
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Speaker 1: it's from the streets, so they look at Osama as
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Speaker 1: a legendary terrorist. But the definition of the name is lying,
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Speaker 1: like he gave a bad rep to the name. He yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's nothing. Yeah, it's like it's like no one ever
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Speaker 1: is gonna name their kid Adolph anymore. You won't know.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Look, I try make a player in NBA
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Speaker 1: two K right, it put Osama, and they told me
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Speaker 1: that name was not allowed to be That's some bullshit,
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Speaker 1: because what if that you're real? Hey, that's what I
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Speaker 1: was on. I'm like, it's some Muslim person out there
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Speaker 1: name Osama for sure. And they scrimmaget that they would
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Speaker 1: they would watch go home and try to do that shit.
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Speaker 1: Just play with it, go but like use another name,
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Speaker 1: but it can't use that. I was like, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: How long have you been like rapping like and like
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Speaker 1: taking it serious? Where you were like all in on
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Speaker 1: this ship twenty eighteen, like December twenty eighteen when I
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Speaker 1: figured out what the fuck dishow Kid was and got
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Speaker 1: off a SoundCloud. Yeah, once I figured that, and I
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Speaker 1: made a song called gang Shit and get Easty featuring
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Speaker 1: my boy to pregrams. He's a hard rap out of
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Speaker 1: the long beat. You gotta get up with him. But man,
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Speaker 1: we did the song years ago and it's still streaming
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Speaker 1: right now, like since when it started. And uh after
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Speaker 1: I seen you know how to give my music on
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Speaker 1: the platforms and people was actually fucking with it, I
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Speaker 1: was all gas from right there, Yeah, because like that's
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's crazy, like distro kid and like
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Speaker 1: tune core. For a long time, people were like it
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Speaker 1: was like the hardest thing to figure out, Well, how
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Speaker 1: do I get my shit on iTunes? I was googling
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Speaker 1: shit late at night, couldn't make in my head it shit,
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Speaker 1: can figure out how the fuck to do it? And
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Speaker 1: then I stumbled across it. At first I stumbled across
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Speaker 1: the shit called CD Baby, Yeah, CD Baby, Yep. I
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Speaker 1: just couldn't afford. I was down bad. I couldn't even
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Speaker 1: afford to twenty dollars. So my brother had bought me
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Speaker 1: a description for dishow Kid for the twenty and I
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Speaker 1: just picked I just you know, any mini money, just
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Speaker 1: picked one. But now I'm used to dishow so I
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Speaker 1: just fuck with dishoshow Kid is great because you can
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Speaker 1: pay your producers, right, you can give everybody to give
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Speaker 1: them their split, your manager, I d everybody, and then
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Speaker 1: it's like from there. You know what I'm saying, sign
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Speaker 1: up for your own account, right is that to get
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Speaker 1: your money because other than that, you know, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: you can't even put the you can't even get video
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Speaker 1: creators credit. Now in your own disho kid you can
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Speaker 1: get and they got a whole for anybody that could
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Speaker 1: do anything, you can give them credit and then it
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Speaker 1: shows up on your Spotify and places. I'm assuming that
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Speaker 1: there has been a lot of discussions about maybe you
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Speaker 1: signing somewhere or got like maybe a bigger distribution situation,
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Speaker 1: Like what for you? How important is it to keep
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Speaker 1: your independence as long as possible. Or are you even
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Speaker 1: would you even consider doing the major thing. Everything different
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Speaker 1: for everybody, and I'm gonna say it like this for
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Speaker 1: me personally, if the paperwork right, we can talk about it.
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Speaker 1: That's the point. I don't care if it's an indie
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Speaker 1: you know, or major you know, or halfway indie you know.
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Speaker 1: If the paperwork right and you can manage off of that,
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Speaker 1: then it's negotiable. But I'm not all against signing with
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Speaker 1: a major. I'm just all against the crazy ass deals
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Speaker 1: that people take. What I was giving the paper to
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Speaker 1: the lawyer, right, so you know, that kind of leave
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Speaker 1: a sour taste in a lot of people mouth. But
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Speaker 1: when you start learning your business, you put that ship
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Speaker 1: to the side in its business. So I do feel
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Speaker 1: like labels need to start. If an artist does not
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Speaker 1: have a lawyer, I feel like it is malpracticed for
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Speaker 1: them to allow an artists to sign with them. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I feel like they low key need to be like,
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Speaker 1: so here's twenty five hundred dollars, go get a lawyer
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Speaker 1: for you to hire your own lawyer. We're not gonna
9:05
Speaker 1: hire the lawyer for you because they work for us.
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Speaker 1: But but that's like, that's like saying that's like the
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Speaker 1: police officers telling you after you get caught doors with shit,
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Speaker 1: you can't we're gonna, we're gonna pay for your lawyers
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Speaker 1: before we interrogate you. Like they're not gonna they're not
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Speaker 1: about to help you. Well like a lot of right,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of these labels they do get people
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Speaker 1: in like shitty predatory deals at the same time, like
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Speaker 1: people sign them. That's why you can't be mad at
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Speaker 1: what you signed. If you signed it, if you sign
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Speaker 1: it just for the money, then you just got the money.
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Speaker 1: And then now don't get mad when the money goes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you sign it, sign it if you you know, you
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Speaker 1: do some stupid shit, and and you know I didn't
9:41
Speaker 1: see some crazy situations with people, you know, right, So
9:44
Speaker 1: it's just like you now, I mean, we hear about
9:46
Speaker 1: it all the time. People complain in like you'll hear
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Speaker 1: the biggest rappers with platinum records be like, I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen any money off my actions. They be signing these
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Speaker 1: crazy deals and they take the front in advance that
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Speaker 1: with this smile on their face, and they don't recoup
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Speaker 1: market budget. That's what all that shit costs money. And
10:04
Speaker 1: it's gotta and then once you start doing the math
10:06
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, thirty nine hundred dollars for every
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Speaker 1: million streams times can't sound crazy, right, It's like, Okay,
10:15
Speaker 1: you probably didn't even recoop and you and you might
10:17
Speaker 1: have went platinum. You you didn't recoup, you went plant them.
10:19
Speaker 1: It's time to drop another album. They gonna give you
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Speaker 1: another budget. On top of that, it's like, every time
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Speaker 1: you need more money, you got to drop a project.
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Speaker 1: So you probably signed for a meal each project, and
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Speaker 1: you down to the fourth project and you ain't recouped
10:31
Speaker 1: from the first one, but they keep giving you a ticket. Bro,
10:33
Speaker 1: you ain't you stuck? And then you're making albums for
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Speaker 1: how shitty albums happen with a lot of these ros.
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Speaker 1: But it depends on what kind of person you want
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Speaker 1: to be. You might want to be you might want
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Speaker 1: to be you might want to be an artist, or
10:49
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10:51
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10:55
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Speaker 1: west Side ship? Uh? What is the safest hat to wear? Ours?
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Speaker 1: Just the Dodgers and Dodger hat. I know, head always
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Speaker 1: says the black and white Dodger hat. Dodger hat. Oh
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Speaker 1: you are you about? Don't? Yeah, you wear it if
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Speaker 1: But you're the off of ble. But you know, if
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14:51
Speaker 1: just like you don't la la la la. Yeah, they're
14:54
Speaker 1: certain hats, you know, like this, how this how I
14:56
Speaker 1: gonna nigga can see this hap from down the block, right,
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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know something about it. I was
15:02
Speaker 1: wearing a Texas Rangers hat. Oh yeah, they' that's the
15:06
Speaker 1: equivalent to this right to listen. So I was at
15:09
Speaker 1: Barry's Pizza at like two thirty in the morning and
15:13
Speaker 1: I get hit up by Big You, and uh, He's like,
15:18
Speaker 1: you know, I have a really good relationship with Big U,
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Speaker 1: like I've known for a long time. And he texts me.
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Speaker 1: He's like, family, we gotta meet. I need to face
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Speaker 1: to face. And it's two thirty in the morning and
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Speaker 1: I'm with Brian Samson, who hopefully you'll never have to
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Speaker 1: meet in your life just because of that name that
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15:39
Speaker 1: There's a round Filipino. So I'm like, yo, what's up you?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like random to get a text for
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up, bro. He's like issues, and I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: lied and I was like, man, I'm all the way
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Speaker 1: in Valencia right now? What about tomorrow? And he's like,
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Speaker 1: if you're all the way in Valencia, why you got
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Speaker 1: that hat on? And I'm like, and this motherfucker stood
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Speaker 1: up from the booth like three boots over it just
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Speaker 1: started dying like it's like, bro, and I ain't gonna
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Speaker 1: lie my bad bro. And that's like the first thing
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Speaker 1: you notice about to do when you see a dude
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Speaker 1: gotta hat on? What kind of hat is it? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's like from that's like LA culture for sure. So
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Speaker 1: I would say, if it's not a basketball team or
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Speaker 1: a LA hat, what about the Arizona Diamondbacks. That's the
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Speaker 1: D hat, right, don't wear that hat? I mean you can't.
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Speaker 1: It's about the A. What about the AH don't for
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Speaker 1: sure don't wear that hat. Okay. So just the dining
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16:50
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16:51
Speaker 1: kind of safe because it's not the Detroit hat, okay,
16:55
Speaker 1: so you know, but it's still the D You might
16:58
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16:59
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17:01
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17:04
Speaker 1: not about the hat. It's about the let letter. The letter,
17:06
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17:09
Speaker 1: white hat that's not a Yankee hat and it just
17:11
Speaker 1: got n y on it. It's the n y what
17:13
Speaker 1: you got that n y on folk. It's that type
17:16
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17:19
Speaker 1: You can do the blue and white to you can
17:20
Speaker 1: do any now stand away from the when you have
17:24
Speaker 1: a red l A hat on it look kind of sketchy. Yeah,
17:27
Speaker 1: like you are dom MoU for sure. These who buys
17:30
Speaker 1: a LA the blue lad I heard is like that's
17:33
Speaker 1: like the official south Side. That's like the Yeah, that's
17:35
Speaker 1: the say half for sure. I mean, if you're black
17:37
Speaker 1: and you wear you good to go, okay, that's you
17:39
Speaker 1: feel me so or if you like Caucasian, that's good.
17:42
Speaker 1: So let's say I'm Caucasian. But you can you can
17:45
Speaker 1: you can low key pass for Hispanic. Bro, Listen, you
17:48
Speaker 1: can pass for Hispanic definitely. Like if you're in the
17:50
Speaker 1: wrong area where like I get off, they're gonna get
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Speaker 1: on you. Let's say I gotta get off the one
17:56
Speaker 1: ten right, I gotta get gas. Oh, someone comes up
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Speaker 1: to me and they're yo, where are you from nowhere?
18:02
Speaker 1: What do I say nowhere at all? Or tell them
18:05
Speaker 1: where you're actually from. Someone told me I need to
18:07
Speaker 1: just start acting like super like angry, like I'm fighting
18:10
Speaker 1: with my man. I'm dealing with this bitch. I don't
18:13
Speaker 1: even know where I'm at. And I just called my
18:14
Speaker 1: bitch cheating, Oh my mama, and nigga gonna hit you
18:17
Speaker 1: so cause you you might, you might start at him,
18:19
Speaker 1: you might eat my hold on. What's up with this nigga? No,
18:21
Speaker 1: but don't ever do that. Just start acting like you're
18:25
Speaker 1: fighting with your girl in your lost But I see,
18:27
Speaker 1: I've seen this by I've seen this by experience. It
18:31
Speaker 1: might be that I've seen it. It happened a lot, man,
18:34
Speaker 1: you know, it might be somewhere yohood, wherever the case
18:36
Speaker 1: may be. Somebody might bang on somebody that don't be
18:39
Speaker 1: from nowhere. But then he started trying to put his
18:41
Speaker 1: foot down as a man like, bro, I'm just saying,
18:43
Speaker 1: now you're getting locked out. Now, now you're talking to
18:46
Speaker 1: me crazy in my hood. Now I gotta get on you.
18:48
Speaker 1: That's how people think. It's fucked up man thinking. But
18:51
Speaker 1: in situations with gang members just tell them you not
18:54
Speaker 1: from nowhere. And if that go where you can see
18:57
Speaker 1: you can see the bite language. Dude, you gotta do
18:59
Speaker 1: to get up up the situation. I had a situation
19:01
Speaker 1: where he was there. We were in a Vallejo which
19:04
Speaker 1: the creston Vallejo, which is like a very uh legendary area, right.
19:10
Speaker 1: I was just out there and we were supposed to
19:13
Speaker 1: be shooting with a rapper from Vallejo, not the Russell.
19:18
Speaker 1: And I guess like right before we got there, somebody
19:22
Speaker 1: who knew this rapper got into like a situation, like
19:25
Speaker 1: a violent situation with somebody, and they knew that guy
19:27
Speaker 1: was going to be there to shoot something. So we're
19:29
Speaker 1: there with our cameras and shit about to shoot a
19:32
Speaker 1: piece of content was about the trans This motherfucker's got
19:35
Speaker 1: his drone in the air in front of King's Market
19:38
Speaker 1: was a King's Market, n anywhere that'se named king is
19:40
Speaker 1: probably listen. So I know I'm in. I already know
19:43
Speaker 1: where I'm at, you know, So I know. So these
19:45
Speaker 1: guys come up and they're like, hey, you guys with
19:47
Speaker 1: so and so, and I was like I was like, hey, man, no,
19:52
Speaker 1: So these guys got chains on that like like record
19:56
Speaker 1: label chain. I don't know they had some ship that.
19:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, these guys might be artists. So I'm like,
20:02
Speaker 1: I just said, hey, what's good, bro. I introduced myself.
20:05
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, we're just shooting some content, you know,
20:07
Speaker 1: with so and so. I didn't say the guy's name.
20:09
Speaker 1: You just confirmed somebody here. No, no no, no, no. I
20:12
Speaker 1: realized we needed to leave immediately. But I'm like, yo,
20:15
Speaker 1: what's up. You know. I introduced myself and I'm like, hey,
20:18
Speaker 1: you know, I do radio, I got a podcast, y'all
20:20
Speaker 1: do music. Hey, let me follow y'all. You know. So
20:22
Speaker 1: I'm like we're following each other back, you know. And
20:26
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm gonna tap in, you know. I'm like, hey,
20:29
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, my boy, we got to go
20:31
Speaker 1: pick up the other camera man at the hotel on
20:32
Speaker 1: the other side of the freeway. We'll be right back.
20:34
Speaker 1: But like, I'm gonna tap in, We'll be right back. Meanwhile,
20:38
Speaker 1: I tell our boy laying the fucking drone because we
20:41
Speaker 1: got to get the fuck out of it. Yeah. Yeah. So,
20:47
Speaker 1: like when people go do content in the hood, I'm
20:51
Speaker 1: saying that y'all not comfortable good, whe y'all go is
20:53
Speaker 1: how did that feel like when y'all know, y'all got
20:56
Speaker 1: to go to the slums. I'm from the slums. And
20:59
Speaker 1: when motherfucker's be like, bro, like you wear because I know,
21:02
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, so like so I've been
21:04
Speaker 1: like like doing this show called tapped In with Empire
21:07
Speaker 1: for a while where we'll go to like areas. Yeah,
21:11
Speaker 1: and I've never really felt like that was the only
21:14
Speaker 1: time where I was like, Okay, we should probably get
21:18
Speaker 1: a batty but you said you was in Yeah, And
21:21
Speaker 1: I and I went back to Vallejo. We went back
21:23
Speaker 1: to the same I said the gas station LEO, great
21:27
Speaker 1: gas station shout is good. No, but yeah, it's definitely
21:34
Speaker 1: uh you know, I think I think if you are
21:38
Speaker 1: not from somewhere, as long as you're respectful and you're
21:41
Speaker 1: not acting like a dick. That's why I said, Juicy,
21:44
Speaker 1: don't try to go back and forth with the gang members,
21:46
Speaker 1: just fucking you know, be respectful, don't be a weirdo.
21:50
Speaker 1: And by the way, weirdo another bad LA word. Oh yeah,
21:53
Speaker 1: that's that's the equivalent to all you know, like New
21:55
Speaker 1: York niggas be like suck my dick. Yo, Well, calling
21:58
Speaker 1: a nigga weird though you're being a weirdo. Hey, that's
22:01
Speaker 1: crazy because that's crazy because weirdo serious, that's that's like
22:07
Speaker 1: you you can probably get away with calls somebody a
22:09
Speaker 1: nigga before you say word on la. I'm south Central.
22:12
Speaker 1: I would like to point out that I mean not
22:14
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm saying I'm like, if you saying my
22:18
Speaker 1: nigga not with the e R, but you feel you
22:20
Speaker 1: would get But if you're be like, bro, you was
22:21
Speaker 1: a weirdo, weird ass nigga, Oh yeah, say less. Oh yeah,
22:25
Speaker 1: you might as well go ahead and start wrapping it up.
22:27
Speaker 1: So are you saying that if I say, suck my
22:30
Speaker 1: dick in weirdo at similar levels of disrespected to you,
22:33
Speaker 1: suck my Dick's crazy? It is crazy. That's crazy, Like
22:37
Speaker 1: like you know, niggas from New York, they be like
22:39
Speaker 1: they said that shit freely. That's like, that's like my
22:41
Speaker 1: dick son. That's like how you be playing with your
22:43
Speaker 1: friend you like, shut up, bitch, you know, like that's crazy.
22:46
Speaker 1: Like to suck my dick is like whoa. So if
22:48
Speaker 1: you want to get into a serious situation, my dick
22:51
Speaker 1: is crazier. You run to suck my dick, you weirdo.
22:54
Speaker 1: I mean, if I go to New York to call
22:55
Speaker 1: a nigga a weirdough, they probably be like so what like,
22:58
Speaker 1: But if a nigga tell me, hey, suck my dick,
23:00
Speaker 1: you weird ass nigga, Now you got a double double,
23:02
Speaker 1: you got something got to happen. That's Anthony Davis healthy
23:05
Speaker 1: right now. No, No, No, New York win on the
23:08
Speaker 1: ship talk and they win for sure. They they talk crazy. Yeah,
23:11
Speaker 1: New York they talk crazy as fun. Definitely East Coast guys.
23:15
Speaker 1: I think in general that they have to deal with
23:16
Speaker 1: more people on a daily basis. Now they just be Yeah,
23:19
Speaker 1: they be mad as I mean, of course they're on
23:21
Speaker 1: subways and what I mean, have you been to New York? No,
23:23
Speaker 1: but all seos on Instagram do when you when you
23:27
Speaker 1: go to New York New York though, No, when you
23:28
Speaker 1: go to New York, you'll understand why everybody from New
23:31
Speaker 1: York is the way they are. I mean I could
23:33
Speaker 1: kind of see it your entire day. You're around strangers
23:38
Speaker 1: every day no matter what. But the New York niggas
23:41
Speaker 1: have no filter. They can't not even the females don't
23:44
Speaker 1: even the females sound like the niggas. Yeah, I suck
23:48
Speaker 1: my dick yo. I'd be like they Wow they wold
23:51
Speaker 1: sonyare Wow. They shout out to Pete Davidson. Just back
23:54
Speaker 1: to New York. They music, they music be going up though,
23:56
Speaker 1: y'all keep doing a'all thing, y'all wow through Who would
23:58
Speaker 1: you consider to be your biggest influences like as as
24:01
Speaker 1: in terms of rapping, I'm gonna go nip. I'm gonna
24:09
Speaker 1: always have to put both first. He got me to
24:10
Speaker 1: where I'm at as far as business wise and made
24:12
Speaker 1: me open my eyes. Then we're gonna go Dre Snoop Cube,
24:16
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24:22
Speaker 1: E gotta go easy. We're gonna go with the whole
24:24
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24:30
Speaker 1: I always Little Boozy and Webby Savage life for sure,
24:34
Speaker 1: all all the collectible mind of Maniac D a maniac
24:40
Speaker 1: where he had his eye man, my little cousins. I
24:42
Speaker 1: used to hate that ship. I can't do that ship.
24:44
Speaker 1: I used to people that do that wirdos, weirdos. But yeah, so,
24:51
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna lie probably ought to all that
24:53
Speaker 1: for me just naming the West Coast, I'm gonna have
24:56
Speaker 1: to go with Boozy and Webby because I used to
24:58
Speaker 1: fuck with them more than a lot of Wet Coast
25:00
Speaker 1: artists in twenty and ten at that era when Boosie
25:02
Speaker 1: came out with the Mind of the Maniac and you
25:05
Speaker 1: know him a little whatever, believe a little fat and
25:08
Speaker 1: you know, you know that was that was with all
25:11
Speaker 1: those questionable necklaces on the be A t Awards. Hey,
25:16
Speaker 1: Boozy got it? Yeah, those was real. I don't know,
25:20
Speaker 1: I don't know. I started looking at like back then,
25:23
Speaker 1: like them big eys necklaces roppers used to have. They
25:26
Speaker 1: look kind of crazy. Now, lab diamonds, hey, hey, as
25:30
Speaker 1: long as it pass on the little tester is good.
25:33
Speaker 1: I agree. Who I mean, who gives it for? Like, yeah, yo,
25:36
Speaker 1: you did you need to spend a hundred thousand on
25:38
Speaker 1: this dimon right because I bought a house with that money.
25:40
Speaker 1: Still look good, I'll fuck you bitch, And still a diamond.
25:43
Speaker 1: I fuck her in the lab listen, and it's the
25:48
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25:50
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25:52
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25:54
Speaker 1: came on the sweat a twelve year old African boy,
25:57
Speaker 1: big one arm. These diamond minds are fucked my diamonds,
26:05
Speaker 1: echo Franks the diamond. Yeah that's crazy. You want your
26:08
Speaker 1: blood diamonds. I'll take my live credit that. But like,
26:12
Speaker 1: who really just be up on somebody to the point
26:14
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26:16
Speaker 1: exten so you don't really see me with jewelry. But
26:18
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26:19
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26:23
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26:26
Speaker 1: the point now where I'm getting it through the music.
26:28
Speaker 1: Because I didn't grew up raised in the streets. Section
26:31
Speaker 1: they all that I didn't got it. I didn't see
26:33
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26:35
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26:37
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26:39
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26:41
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26:43
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26:45
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26:48
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26:50
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26:52
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26:55
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26:57
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26:58
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27:02
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27:05
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27:07
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27:11
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27:14
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27:16
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27:19
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27:20
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27:23
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Speaker 1: I'm making a lot of music right now, just just
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30:48
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the name of the project that's coming up.
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Speaker 1: And we also got the remix. I can't say the name,
30:53
Speaker 1: but we got some la guys. I can't say the name,
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Speaker 1: but where they're from. They from the world. You're gonna see.
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Speaker 1: from the world they you know so, but it's like,
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Speaker 1: but the one that we bought the you're gonna have
31:18
Speaker 1: multiple remixes. Yeah, I want to do like the Welcome
31:20
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31:31
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31:33
Speaker 1: Instagram last year. Is he still in jail? Yeah, free bro,
31:37
Speaker 1: nice kid. Yeah, good guy, real stand up guard. That's
31:40
Speaker 1: my nigga. Yeah. I think he's doing a good job too,
31:43
Speaker 1: because I do feel like like the new generation breaking
31:45
Speaker 1: the parents Latino rappers. I feel like this new like
31:49
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31:53
Speaker 1: the to you know, two sides of LA together. That's
31:56
Speaker 1: not the only one though, you got you got Doe
31:58
Speaker 1: Boy from the Empires bunch of people. I'm just saying, like,
32:01
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32:03
Speaker 1: it's dope to see like everyone working together, you know,
32:06
Speaker 1: yeah it is. And it's even doper to see the
32:09
Speaker 1: black and the browns fucking with each other with the
32:11
Speaker 1: with the sound because ship, we all come from the
32:13
Speaker 1: same fucking place. You your rent is the same as
32:16
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32:19
Speaker 1: like you know, like so you like me, I'm like you.
32:23
Speaker 1: It ain't no difference between the brown and the black
32:25
Speaker 1: community at all. It's just what the picture is painted
32:30
Speaker 1: in the fake ass division line that shouldn't even really
32:32
Speaker 1: be there. I wasn't even a hip to all of
32:35
Speaker 1: that before moving here. It's only in LA. It's not
32:39
Speaker 1: it's not it's not even Eli's game politics. It's it's
32:42
Speaker 1: it's something that's higher up about higher up ship that
32:45
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with nothing before soldiers that's gonna
32:48
Speaker 1: listen to. It's like an az like we're like they
32:51
Speaker 1: love each other with each other. Yeah, it's just some
32:53
Speaker 1: l A politics. LA politics is different the Hispanish, Hispanish people,
32:58
Speaker 1: Hispanics like you know, like black people. It's just it's
33:01
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33:04
Speaker 1: when it's the two different races going to war with
33:07
Speaker 1: each other. But if you just look at the fucking
33:09
Speaker 1: graphics on what really happens in LA, Hispanics be for Hispanics,
33:12
Speaker 1: Blacks with blacks, everybody, be for everybody, and everybody get
33:16
Speaker 1: along with everybody. But when it's something that could be
33:18
Speaker 1: marketed as negative and racial, it's always gonna make the
33:21
Speaker 1: front page. Yep, that's the ship that pushes views. Right.
33:25
Speaker 1: So you know, what's your top five LA hip hop
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Speaker 1: albums of all time? Ooh, Section eighty Good Kid, Mass City,
33:35
Speaker 1: We gotta go with Smell my Finger sugar Free. We
33:39
Speaker 1: gotta go with what the name of an album? I'm
33:43
Speaker 1: gonna have to go with what's the name of the
33:46
Speaker 1: fucking album? Rhythm against Snoop Dogg. Really, it's a great
33:52
Speaker 1: that's a that's a very random Snoop album, but a
33:54
Speaker 1: great one. That was I that ups and Downs was
33:56
Speaker 1: my favorite song. And the song that he made for
33:58
Speaker 1: Tickie Williams him Nate Don't talking two one three one G.
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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite. I was really deep in
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Speaker 1: the streets at that time. So anything with the Blue
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Speaker 1: Rag I was. I was sticking to it. The Snoop
34:07
Speaker 1: is my my guy. So and we're gonna go with
34:13
Speaker 1: while we thugs ice Cube. You know what was the
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Speaker 1: name of the album? You know the name of the album?
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Speaker 1: Funk I had it. I know what you're talking about.
34:22
Speaker 1: I forgot the name of the album. You have some
34:25
Speaker 1: random that's a random ice Cube album, all right? Because
34:29
Speaker 1: I usually like music that everybody I like to pick
34:31
Speaker 1: the albums that everybody don't really well. Also, that's probably
34:34
Speaker 1: the albums that like were coming up, Like that came
34:36
Speaker 1: out while we were coming up. I mean, no, I
34:38
Speaker 1: could have set the old albums easy. But yeah, yeah,
34:41
Speaker 1: right that so I could have set the old album easy,
34:44
Speaker 1: but I feel like I feel like that's that's the
34:48
Speaker 1: ship that people expect you to say, you know, but
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Speaker 1: album A real fan of their music. So those are
34:54
Speaker 1: the You're probably right, those is the when when they
34:56
Speaker 1: was dropping at that time, those was the ones that
34:58
Speaker 1: I stick to. So what's that number four? And we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go with Victory Lap The fuck that should have
35:07
Speaker 1: been number one? No matter of fact, his whole catalog. Bro,
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Speaker 1: favorite song by Nippas, pay my dues, Bro. That shit
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Speaker 1: got me through a lot. All right, what's the best
35:15
Speaker 1: album out of these five? You gotta pick one? Victory Lap,
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Speaker 1: Good Kid, Mad City, Doggy Style, The Chronic and the
35:28
Speaker 1: Chronic two thousand and one, two thousand and one. Okay,
35:32
Speaker 1: I gotta say it, Salas is sick, but Sallace it's
35:38
Speaker 1: Doggy Style, right, Okay. Gotta know, Hey, why a were
35:42
Speaker 1: gonna put get Rich your Datron in there? Because I'm
35:43
Speaker 1: picked on la Shit. I just said all l a album.
35:46
Speaker 1: Hey fifty, you know you from New York, but shit,
35:48
Speaker 1: get Rich you Dartron, that's West Coast. We love you,
35:50
Speaker 1: my niggas a definitely not West Coast all them beats
35:53
Speaker 1: on there's West Coast type beat. That ship is the
35:56
Speaker 1: West Coast of them. All right, you're right, not all
35:58
Speaker 1: of them, but that ship it he broke off the
36:01
Speaker 1: West coast. He I mean, listen, we go, we go,
36:04
Speaker 1: we go, keep, we go, keep fifty? Who could we
36:06
Speaker 1: trade for? Who could be? Who could who could we trade?
36:08
Speaker 1: Who would you trade? You gotta give me a list,
36:10
Speaker 1: Give me a list. He's not about to make me
36:14
Speaker 1: just start saying that. Give me a list, and I'm
36:16
Speaker 1: gonna pick off of your multiple choice. All right. I'm
36:17
Speaker 1: gonna have ten rappers. You gotta trade one of them
36:20
Speaker 1: for fifty, all right, all right, fifty one of my
36:23
Speaker 1: favor rappers. I really don't give him back. I'm just
36:25
Speaker 1: gonna start naming off West Coast rappers off the top
36:28
Speaker 1: of my head. I don't say nothing new, but off
36:30
Speaker 1: the top of my head. If there's any new rappers,
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Speaker 1: bro don't take it serious, because the top of my head,
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Speaker 1: all right, girl, DJ quick y g m hm, dre hmm,
36:45
Speaker 1: mac ten mm hmm, ice cube mmm, sugar free hmm.
36:52
Speaker 1: He ain't going nowhere. We already know that the game. Mmmmm,
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Speaker 1: school Boy C, that's that's your list. Who's who's you
37:00
Speaker 1: trading for fifty? It's gonna be out a YG and
37:04
Speaker 1: school Board Q. Make your choice for fifty. But ah,
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Speaker 1: we go, were gonna trade school Boy Q for fifty
37:13
Speaker 1: for five hundred? Please a school Boy Q. I love
37:15
Speaker 1: your music, bro, It's not the personal, nothing personal for fifty.
37:21
Speaker 1: My god, I'm I'm betrayed. I betrade you for fifty.
37:24
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put fifty at the top of the list
37:26
Speaker 1: of everybody though, so it's like it's nothing personal. I like,
37:29
Speaker 1: I fucking fifty cent uh so remix coming? So how
37:32
Speaker 1: soon is the remix coming? I'll probably say April Florida
37:36
Speaker 1: is on the remix, Probably not the first one I'm
37:38
Speaker 1: gonna drop. Mm hmmm, because I'll tell you the first one.
37:42
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be such a surprise. What's city
37:44
Speaker 1: in Florida? I'll tell you. Seti Hendrix, Oh, Seti Hendrick. Yeah,
37:48
Speaker 1: he's a sweet guy, man, that's my boy. He's from Jacksonville, right, yeah, yeah,
37:51
Speaker 1: I apprec sure. I did a show for him at
37:52
Speaker 1: the Roxy. I opened up for him. Yeah yeah, Seti's dope.
37:55
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So that's one of the persons that's on
37:58
Speaker 1: the remix. I don't know. I said thought already a
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Speaker 1: couple of times. So yeah, side's way instead Saddy, and
38:05
Speaker 1: we got some zeke for all. Bro. Well, listen, man,
38:12
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up looking forward to everything you
38:15
Speaker 1: got in the works. Man, you're killing it. You're moving
38:17
Speaker 1: in the right way with the right energy. Bro, keep
38:18
Speaker 1: that ship up. And uh, we're gonna do a freestyle
38:22
Speaker 1: so you guys can watch a separate YouTube video. This
38:23
Speaker 1: got rapping, rapping. Yeah, they're gonna watch me rap. Let's
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Speaker 1: go Blue leg Head Podcast