Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 3pm hour 06/11/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, here we go. News Radio 570.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Don't you carry on and run for 307 here in
- 0:04Speaker 2: the afternoon. Nice to be with you here. What are
- 0:06Speaker 2: we sitting with? Seventy nine degrees and cloudy. Some rain
- 0:12Speaker 2: in the forecast and in various vicinities here as we
- 0:16Speaker 2: get underway on this Thursday. Legal show at five tonight.
- 0:20Speaker 2: John Arnold's money talks at six. And in the meantime,
- 0:23Speaker 2: we conversate. I get to phone calls momentarily, but I
- 0:27Speaker 2: think Dave Thomas is out there as well.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Hello?
- 0:31Speaker 3: Yes, hi. How are you doing, Ron?
- 0:32Speaker 4: Good.
- 0:33Speaker 1: How are you? Good.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I had a call back. I called right at the
- 0:36Speaker 3: tail end of the G2 yesterday. You had fascinating callers on,
- 0:42Speaker 3: and I enjoyed that gentleman from Palestine, the Palestinian, talking
- 0:46Speaker 3: about his relatives.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I thought he was– he offered great insight. I mean, yes,
- 0:52Speaker 2: I thought the guy was just– I just saw the..
- 0:57Speaker 3: I remember him calling in the past, and I wish
- 0:59Speaker 3: he would call more often.
- 1:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:02Speaker 3: And then you had the guy that called. I don't
- 1:04Speaker 3: know if he was Mark Levin. He was saying, where
- 1:07Speaker 3: are the bodies buried in Gaza? He goes, in other words,
- 1:12Speaker 3: there wasn't a genocide. And if he's listening, there were
- 1:18Speaker 3: 72,000 Palestinians killed. They were buried in mass graves. There
- 1:24Speaker 3: are two big mass graves, Nasser Hospital and Air Sharif Hospital.
- 1:30Speaker 3: They're in parking lots. They're in backyards. They're under rubble.
- 1:34Speaker 3: And if you ever look at it, Elon Musk put
- 1:36Speaker 3: a picture up on X of Gaza before and after
- 1:42Speaker 3: the attacks. Beautiful, beautiful. It was a wonderful area. And
- 1:48Speaker 3: then after the attacks, it looks like the moonscape. There's
- 1:52Speaker 3: rubble everywhere. And then what really touched a nerve was
- 1:56Speaker 3: when G2 brought up the attack on the USS Liberty.
- 2:00Speaker 3: And I followed that for many years, and I've read
- 2:05Speaker 3: a couple of books on it. And that was a
- 2:09Speaker 3: premeditated attack. And what I wanted to tell G2, and
- 2:14Speaker 3: I think he knew this, was that they called off
- 2:19Speaker 3: the rescue, LBJ and Robert McNamara, personally called off the
- 2:25Speaker 3: rescue jets that were going to come to the aid
- 2:28Speaker 3: of the USS Liberty. And it was sad. Those pilots
- 2:36Speaker 3: turned around and not like, I don't know if you
- 2:38Speaker 3: remember Benghazi, when you had our embassy was being attacked
- 2:44Speaker 3: and you had four ex-SEALs that worked for the CIA
- 2:49Speaker 3: as security contractors. They were Tyrone Woods, Glenn Daugherty. They
- 2:55Speaker 3: were told to stand down by the State Department and
- 2:58Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton, and they refused to do so. They rescued
- 3:03Speaker 3: so many people in Benghazi, and it only resulted in
- 3:07Speaker 3: four deaths. One was the ambassador, and the others were
- 3:11Speaker 3: the ex-SEALs and CIA contractors. But I can't believe that
- 3:17Speaker 3: those pilots would have turned back and said, i don't
- 3:21Speaker 3: know if she to notice but in in the book
- 3:24Speaker 3: at the it's called the attack on the liberty it
- 3:26Speaker 3: was from two thousand nine the authors uh... but james
- 3:30Speaker 3: scott he gives a timeline of the assault and the
- 3:33Speaker 3: declassified documents and that's when it came out about uh...
- 3:38Speaker 3: lbj our president our democratic president and mac the mayor
- 3:43Speaker 3: how could you what your assail would be attacked you're
- 3:48Speaker 3: the leader of the country but uh... Getting back to
- 3:52Speaker 3: it real quick, showing that it was premeditated, that happened
- 3:58Speaker 3: on June the 8th, 1967. But in the book, on
- 4:03Speaker 3: the timeline, on June the 7th, the day before the Liberty,
- 4:07Speaker 3: this was day four of the Six-Day Israeli War. On
- 4:14Speaker 3: the 7th, the Israeli jets were flying over the Liberty,
- 4:19Speaker 3: Flying around it, they had boats flying around it. It
- 4:22Speaker 3: was identified as a U.S.
- 4:23Speaker 5: Ship.
- 4:24Speaker 3: It wasn't until the next day that the attack occurred.
- 4:30Speaker 3: And what they did when they were sending out SOS calls..
- 4:50Speaker 6: Urgent weather message The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has
- 4:54Speaker 6: issued a severe thunderstorm warning for Northeastern Belmont County in
- 4:58Speaker 6: East Central Ohio, Southeastern Jefferson, Ohio County in East Central Ohio,
- 5:03Speaker 6: Allegheny County in Southwestern Pennsylvania, Washington County in Southwestern Pennsylvania,
- 5:08Speaker 6: Northwestern Westmoreland County in Southwestern Pennsylvania, Southwestern Armstrong County in
- 5:14Speaker 6: West Central Pennsylvania, Butler County in West Central Pennsylvania, South
- 5:18Speaker 6: Central Clarion County in West Central Pennsylvania, Eastern Beaver County
- 5:22Speaker 6: in western Pennsylvania, southeastern Lawrence County in western Pennsylvania, Brooke
- 5:27Speaker 6: County in northern West Virginia, Ohio County in northern West Virginia,
- 5:31Speaker 6: until 4.15 p.m.
- 5:33Speaker 5: EDT.
- 5:34Speaker 6: At 3.10 p.m. EDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a
- 5:39Speaker 6: line from 7 miles north of Zillianople to near West Liberty,
- 5:43Speaker 6: or along a line from 11 miles west of Butler
- 5:45Speaker 6: to near Clearview, moving east at 30 mph. Hazard, 70
- 5:50Speaker 6: miles per hour wind gusts. Source, law enforcement reported. Impact,
- 5:56Speaker 6: expect considerable tree damage. Damage is likely to mobile homes, roofs.
- 6:02Speaker 5: And outbuildings.
- 6:04Speaker 6: Locations impacted include Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Mount Lebanon, Bethel Park,
- 6:09Speaker 6: Ross Township, Wheeling, McCandless Township, Monroeville, Cranberry, Moon Township, McMurray, McKeesport, Butler, Washington,
- 6:18Speaker 6: Franklin Park, Aliquippa, Canonsburg, Martins Ferry, and Monica. Numerous trees
- 6:24Speaker 6: and wires have been reported down along this line of storms.
- 6:27Speaker 6: Anyone outdoors should move to shelter inside a well-built structure
- 6:31Speaker 6: and stay away from windows. These storms have produced widespread
- 6:35Speaker 6: damaging winds. Report severe weather to your nearest law enforcement
- 6:40Speaker 6: agency or the National Weather Service office in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Repeating,
- 6:45Speaker 6: a severe thunderstorm warning has been issued until 4.15 p.m.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Eastern.
- 6:54Speaker 1: All right, so be advised of that. All right, go
- 6:56Speaker 1: ahead and finish your thoughts, please.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Sure, real quick. It's a good day to stay inside
- 7:01Speaker 3: and listen to the radio in the air conditioning. I
- 7:04Speaker 3: was golfing up in Kent yesterday with a cousin of mine.
- 7:08Speaker 3: He said, how often do you call that show? I said,
- 7:11Speaker 3: what show? He said, the Ron Verb show. I said,
- 7:14Speaker 3: do you listen to that? His name's Dr. Ford. If
- 7:17Speaker 3: he's listening, you have a strong signal. He lives in Hudson,
- 7:21Speaker 3: but he follows you, and I was surprised about that.
- 7:24Speaker 3: But getting back real quick to the... Liberty. If it
- 7:27Speaker 3: wasn't for Congressman Massey that had the survivors in Washington,
- 7:35Speaker 3: he's getting a lot more attention coming out. And the
- 7:38Speaker 3: Israelis finally admitted, at first they said it was an accident.
- 7:42Speaker 3: It was a blatant attack. But in 1968, the victims'
- 7:48Speaker 3: families filed suit, and the Israelis were forced to pay
- 7:52Speaker 3: $ 12. 8 million in compensation to went to the families, and
- 7:56Speaker 3: then in 1969, the wounded crew members got part of
- 8:00Speaker 3: the settlement. And then in 1980, the Israelis paid for
- 8:04Speaker 3: the ship itself, the damages to the ship, due to lawsuits.
- 8:09Speaker 3: But they paid with, I believe it was U.S. taxpayer
- 8:13Speaker 3: money from the United States.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Naturally, we give them billions.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Yes, we give them billions. And to talk about giving
- 8:19Speaker 3: them billions, we're still giving the Taliban billions. $ 40 million
- 8:24Speaker 3: a week, thanks to John Toon, Senator Toon. And I
- 8:29Speaker 3: don't know why they can't stop that. But anyway, you
- 8:33Speaker 3: see the markets turned around because of the announcement from
- 8:39Speaker 3: Trump saying that he's not going to attack tonight. And
- 8:42Speaker 3: what he did do yesterday, and I was telling G2
- 8:45Speaker 3: when it was towards the tail end, that we did
- 8:48Speaker 3: attack two water reservoirs. that are very important because they're
- 8:53Speaker 3: having a severe water water shortage now in iran it's
- 8:56Speaker 3: affecting civilians and uh... that would classify as a war
- 9:02Speaker 3: crime and were complicit or involved will be only country
- 9:08Speaker 3: that this with israel on the genocide in gaza and
- 9:13Speaker 3: lebanon and now we're attacking water reservoirs but thank god
- 9:17Speaker 3: that uh... trump called it off Speaking of calling it off,
- 9:22Speaker 3: I wish I would have had that inside information at
- 9:24Speaker 3: 1.30 when that announcement came out and everything spiked. I'm
- 9:29Speaker 3: sure there were people that made a few bucks in
- 9:31Speaker 3: the market on that.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I wouldn't be.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Shocked about it at all. You mean as far as
- 9:36Speaker 2: insiders out of D.C.? the Trump circle or whatever. I'm
- 9:41Speaker 2: sure that there are many insiders that made a bundle
- 9:44Speaker 2: of money because the Dow jumped 700 points. Oil tumbles
- 9:46Speaker 2: as Trump cancels evening strikes against Iran.
- 9:49Speaker 1: It's interesting.
- 9:50Speaker 2: It's interesting how he can change, spike the markets and
- 9:55Speaker 2: bring it down simply by what he's saying. And if
- 9:57Speaker 2: you've got that inside information, you obviously can make a
- 10:00Speaker 2: lot of money on it. And I suspect people are.
- 10:03Speaker 3: You know how many times this year he's announced a
- 10:05Speaker 3: peace deal was near or imminent?
- 10:08Speaker 1: About 30. About 30. 38 times.
- 10:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:14Speaker 3: That's the poll.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And now they're announcing today that... a deal is near.
- 10:20Speaker 1: So we shall see.
- 10:20Speaker 2: I really hope there is because this has got to
- 10:26Speaker 2: come to a conclusion. I hope there is a deal.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I hope there is one that's near. If not, I
- 10:31Speaker 2: think we have big trouble. Well, you heard the inflation
- 10:33Speaker 2: numbers that were just given out during our news at
- 10:35Speaker 2: 3 o'clock. They're significant. And if this continues to go on,
- 10:39Speaker 2: I'll say once again, I think your gasoline prices, oil prices,
- 10:43Speaker 2: and inflation will all go up if this continues on.
- 10:47Speaker 2: through July and August. I don't think it will be
- 10:52Speaker 2: a pleasant economic experience for us here at all.
- 10:56Speaker 3: I think we're in big trouble. And you know what?
- 11:00Speaker 3: I like Trump. I support Trump. I wouldn't vote for
- 11:03Speaker 3: a Democrat. But when it comes to real estate and
- 11:09Speaker 3: making deals, the art of the deal, he's good. But
- 11:12Speaker 3: when it comes to... foreign policy, it seems he's got
- 11:16Speaker 3: the Midas touch in reverse. I mean, he doesn't know
- 11:18Speaker 3: how to get out of conflicts that he put us in.
- 11:23Speaker 3: And Tucker had a fascinating..
- 11:25Speaker 1: Well, the best way to get out of them is
- 11:27Speaker 1: don't get in them in the first place.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Exactly. And Tucker had a guy on his latest interview,
- 11:33Speaker 3: Professor Mearsheimer. It's International Relations from the University of Chicago
- 11:40Speaker 3: talking about... well, he was talking about Russia and Ukraine, that,
- 11:46Speaker 3: you know, and I really, it opened my eyes because
- 11:49Speaker 3: I was always critical of General Milley and Obama, but, and,
- 11:58Speaker 3: and Biden. But during, during the war, when it started,
- 12:03Speaker 3: with Ukraine and Russia, General Milley advised that we come
- 12:08Speaker 3: to a negotiated peace settlement and, um, He was told
- 12:13Speaker 3: to stand down and shut up, cease and desist. That
- 12:17Speaker 3: was in 2023. Because we wanted to, we, I don't
- 12:23Speaker 3: know who that was, IPAC, the lobbyists, whoever, wanted the
- 12:27Speaker 3: conflict to go on and keep the sanctions in place.
- 12:32Speaker 3: But it didn't work out. And now it's coming out
- 12:36Speaker 3: that Russia is talking about attacking NATO. I don't know
- 12:41Speaker 3: if you saw that.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I did not.
- 12:43Speaker 3: Okay, and what bothers me, that might escalate into using nukes.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Well, we can only hope not. That's a whole other topic.
- 12:53Speaker 2: We shall see where this goes. I certainly hope Trump
- 12:56Speaker 2: is accurate that a deal is near or he's once
- 12:59Speaker 2: again talking about one.
- 13:02Speaker 1: As I look at it today. I hope that's accurate.
- 13:05Speaker 2: I've been down this road 30-something times with him, and
- 13:08Speaker 2: he called off the strike and the market has ticked up.
- 13:11Speaker 2: I hope this time it happens and we can reach
- 13:14Speaker 2: a conclusion on this. and hopefully get time to heal
- 13:17Speaker 2: as far as our economy is concerned and our energy prices.
- 13:21Speaker 2: We shall see. Stay in touch with me tomorrow and
- 13:24Speaker 2: let me know. It's an ever-changing event. I appreciate your insight.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Smart guy.
- 13:27Speaker 1: You're on the air.
- 13:30Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, it's David.
- 13:31Speaker 2: That's who I'm looking for. Dave Thomas, state rep, NewsRadio
- 13:34Speaker 2: 570 WQN. All right, so a few things that we
- 13:37Speaker 2: have to cover with you here. Call us a line standby.
- 13:39Speaker 2: I'll get to you. Coming up, that's... we are going
- 13:43Speaker 2: on as far as the states uh... is concerns that uh...
- 13:47Speaker 2: we want you to be cognizant of let's see uh...
- 13:50Speaker 2: let's talk about medicaid fraud what's the latest on that
- 13:53Speaker 2: and daycare fraud.
- 13:56Speaker 5: Yes so we passed um... tuesday and wednesday we were
- 13:59Speaker 5: actually uh... in session late into the evening slash morning uh...
- 14:05Speaker 5: passing almost about fifty bills lot different topics uh... two
- 14:09Speaker 5: of them dealt with medicare I'm sorry, Medicaid and the
- 14:13Speaker 5: child care fraud issues. So, on the child care side,
- 14:17Speaker 5: folks can look up House Bill 647. This one deals
- 14:23Speaker 5: specifically with child care. And what we saw that came
- 14:26Speaker 5: out of some of the reports back in January with
- 14:29Speaker 5: child care issues, essentially... Daycare centers billing for kids that
- 14:35Speaker 5: went there.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Right. You've got to hold that thought.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Let me do my commercial so I can write back,
- 14:40Speaker 2: chat with Dave Thomas about a few areas, get to
- 14:42Speaker 2: calls and more.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Straight ahead, NewsRadio 570. WKBN. Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station,
- 14:52Speaker 1: 570 WKBN.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Back to it, 325 in the afternoon.
- 14:57Speaker 1: All right, pick it up. We're talking about daycare and
- 15:00Speaker 1: Medicaid fraud.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Yes.
- 15:02Speaker 5: So this daycare one, hospital 647, this does a lot
- 15:06Speaker 5: of things that you think are pretty common sense, but
- 15:08Speaker 5: we didn't have in place prior to what happened in January.
- 15:12Speaker 5: So there's kind of direct data with each individual child
- 15:17Speaker 5: that goes then to the Department of Children and Youth
- 15:20Speaker 5: in Columbus. That way they can track where the kids are.
- 15:24Speaker 5: There's actual kind of digital tracking with them so that
- 15:27Speaker 5: they know when they're in the building, when they're not,
- 15:30Speaker 5: how many days they're there. reimbursement wise. We change up
- 15:33Speaker 5: some of the reimbursement side too. So there were centers
- 15:37Speaker 5: that were just saying, Hey, Johnny's here, you know, four
- 15:39Speaker 5: days a week. Hey us, Johnny was never there. Now
- 15:43Speaker 5: we'll actually be able to track. We'll know. This also
- 15:46Speaker 5: gives the attorney general the authority right now. They do
- 15:50Speaker 5: not have this. If Franklin County, if there's a fraud
- 15:53Speaker 5: issue in Franklin County, that prosecutor is the one that's
- 15:56Speaker 5: responsible for it. Prosecutor in Franklin County is not going
- 15:59Speaker 5: to prosecute. or go after these types of things. The
- 16:03Speaker 5: attorney general can then step in, even in these types
- 16:06Speaker 5: of situations, take over, um, and, uh, prosecute. So that's
- 16:12Speaker 5: a handful of things that just right away we're able
- 16:14Speaker 5: to pass with 647. Um, those are some of the
- 16:19Speaker 5: loopholes that folks have kind of exploited, um, especially some
- 16:24Speaker 5: of those zip codes in Franklin County, um, some of
- 16:27Speaker 5: those different populations and, uh, This now moves over to
- 16:31Speaker 5: the Senate. So we passed it late last night. It
- 16:34Speaker 5: moves over to the Senate, and they'll have to take
- 16:36Speaker 5: action on it now.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Do you think it'll pass there? Yes or no?
- 16:40Speaker 5: Yes.
- 16:41Speaker 1: All right.
- 16:41Speaker 2: So, I mean, this thing has to happen relatively quickly,
- 16:44Speaker 2: so there's accountability for the money being paid out and
- 16:47Speaker 2: Medicaid fraud and daycare fraud, correct?
- 16:51Speaker 1: Yes.
- 16:51Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was just the daycare one, the Medicaid one,
- 16:55Speaker 5: and there's a lot here. This is Senate Bill 315.
- 17:00Speaker 5: This is actually already going to the governor's desk. So
- 17:04Speaker 5: we passed this one very late last night. And this
- 17:08Speaker 5: one hits at all of the Medicaid issues that we've
- 17:10Speaker 5: been seeing as well. And it's somewhat similar. There was
- 17:13Speaker 5: just never the actual ability to track, have electronic verification,
- 17:19Speaker 5: GPS verification for these different providers that said that they
- 17:24Speaker 5: were visiting grandma or visiting their someone who is disabled,
- 17:27Speaker 5: to provide health care services or respite care, for example,
- 17:32Speaker 5: is what they call it. So this sets up, after
- 17:34Speaker 5: the governor vetoed that last budget, this sets up that
- 17:38Speaker 5: type of tracking to make sure that they are going
- 17:40Speaker 5: where they're going. We're increasing the penalties quite heavily for
- 17:45Speaker 5: Medicaid fraud, which previously were almost misdemeanors. They were very,
- 17:50Speaker 5: very little. Now we're ramping those up quite a bit
- 17:53Speaker 5: for the actual penalties if you're found guilty of stealing
- 17:57Speaker 5: his money or committing fraud with Medicaid.
- 18:01Speaker 2: All right, and that's a done deal other than DeWine
- 18:03Speaker 2: has to sign it. Do you believe he will?
- 18:07Speaker 5: That's going to be one of the questions.
- 18:10Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570 WKVN. All right, back to it. NewsRadio 570 WKVN.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Isn't this interesting, State Rep. Dave Thomas?
- 18:18Speaker 2: So you don't know if DeWine is going to sign
- 18:21Speaker 2: this bill. Explain the bill once again and what it does.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:26Speaker 5: So this is Senate bill three 15. This was passed
- 18:29Speaker 5: late last night. It's on its way to the governor.
- 18:31Speaker 5: This overhauls the Medicaid system. So it puts a lot
- 18:35Speaker 5: of checks and balances into Medicaid that were not there
- 18:38Speaker 5: and was the reason you saw a lot of the
- 18:41Speaker 5: issues earlier this year and still with Medicaid, especially around
- 18:46Speaker 5: Franklin County. Um, you do a lot of kind of
- 18:49Speaker 5: basic things like even additionally from what I said earlier,
- 18:52Speaker 5: requiring on-site in-person inspections before you get a license to
- 18:57Speaker 5: become a Medicaid provider, um, have a certain kind of
- 19:01Speaker 5: like payment systems set up where if, if there's a
- 19:04Speaker 5: strange payment, um, kind of like a back pattern where
- 19:09Speaker 5: they're going, a lot of payments from different organizations are
- 19:12Speaker 5: going to one same account or going to one same address,
- 19:16Speaker 5: like there's something wrong with that, setting up things like that. Um,
- 19:19Speaker 5: or even, um, actual pre-authorization before certain expenses are made
- 19:26Speaker 5: for patients. On top of all the GPS verification, all
- 19:29Speaker 5: the auditing verification, a lot of this is what legislatures
- 19:33Speaker 5: try to do. The governor's vetoed. That's why we're not
- 19:37Speaker 5: really sure quite how he's going to respond yet, but
- 19:40Speaker 5: I'm hopeful he's going to sign it.
- 19:43Speaker 1: We shall see.
- 19:43Speaker 2: I don't know why he wouldn't sign it other than he, well,
- 19:48Speaker 2: he should sign it.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Anything he does doesn't surprise me, to say the least,
- 19:52Speaker 2: when it comes to Governor DeWine.
- 19:56Speaker 1: It's been very disappointing.
- 19:58Speaker 2: So that is Medicaid fraud, daycare fraud bill, tax relief
- 20:02Speaker 2: bill passed.
- 20:03Speaker 1: What's that?
- 20:04Speaker 5: Yes, so you've probably heard a little bit about the
- 20:08Speaker 5: overages that the state has. So we cut the income
- 20:11Speaker 5: tax again last year, another almost half a percent. Now
- 20:16Speaker 5: Ohio has the lowest flat tax in the nation. But
- 20:19Speaker 5: we've actually been bringing in even more money by cutting
- 20:22Speaker 5: the tax, which just shows market activity. People are making
- 20:27Speaker 5: more type of thing. So we budgeted for less in
- 20:30Speaker 5: our budget this past year, but we've gotten them more
- 20:32Speaker 5: because So we have about a $ 1. 5 billion kind of
- 20:36Speaker 5: overage right now. And there's been a lot of questions
- 20:39Speaker 5: about what to actually do with some of that money.
- 20:43Speaker 5: So one of our bills that we passed late yesterday
- 20:45Speaker 5: as well, it's House Bill 479. Folks can look this up.
- 20:51Speaker 5: It directs some of this money different places. One of
- 20:54Speaker 5: the provisions, there will be a $ 350 million credit given
- 21:01Speaker 5: to those on homes instead. That is seniors who are
- 21:04Speaker 5: over 65, those that are essentially making social security or
- 21:09Speaker 5: a little over social security, about $ 38, 000 a year. Those
- 21:13Speaker 5: folks that are on Homestead will see on average, especially
- 21:17Speaker 5: in our area, a doubling of their Homestead credit from
- 21:21Speaker 5: this overage amount. So we are actually reimbursing locals and
- 21:26Speaker 5: we're saying those folks on Homestead will see a doubling,
- 21:29Speaker 5: about $ 500 on average. to their tax bills in January
- 21:34Speaker 5: of next year, every homestead recipient in the state.
- 21:38Speaker 4: Um, all right.
- 21:39Speaker 2: So remember when you had the overage one other year,
- 21:42Speaker 2: you made the sales tax holiday include a bunch of
- 21:45Speaker 2: other stuff and up the limits.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we do that?
- 21:49Speaker 5: And that's next. So on top of that 350, the
- 21:52Speaker 5: homestead folks were doing 320 million into that sales tax
- 21:56Speaker 5: holiday fund for, um, I'm not entirely sure. I think
- 22:01Speaker 5: we have to do it in the budget prior to
- 22:03Speaker 5: the year. So this will be for next year's sales
- 22:06Speaker 5: tax holiday. That will be extended once again, just like
- 22:09Speaker 5: we've had in previous years. This will be half of
- 22:12Speaker 5: the month of August, so the 1st through the 15th.
- 22:15Speaker 5: And then anything under $ 500, sales tax-free for that whole period.
- 22:20Speaker 1: In what, 2027? Correct, yep, next year.
- 22:23Speaker 5: This is all for next year's.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 22:25Speaker 5: Next year's budget.
- 22:26Speaker 1: All right. So, I mean, I thought that was a
- 22:28Speaker 1: good idea. So anything you bought.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Anything, $ 500 or less, there wasn't a sales tax on it.
- 22:34Speaker 2: So I thought that was good. So that'll be coming
- 22:37Speaker 2: as a result of the overage. Why don't we stop
- 22:40Speaker 2: the overage in the future?
- 22:44Speaker 5: I kind of joke with folks. Not that we tried,
- 22:47Speaker 5: but I cut an income tax again. We actually cut
- 22:52Speaker 5: the income tax roughly $ 2 billion. And the Democrats during
- 22:56Speaker 5: that budget, they were saying, we're going to be in
- 22:58Speaker 5: the deficit. We're going to lose this $ 2 billion.
- 23:01Speaker 1: And they were wrong. You cut it and erased more money.
- 23:05Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 23:06Speaker 2: It was exactly opposite what the Democrats said. You lowered
- 23:09Speaker 2: the income tax rate and it brought in more money,
- 23:13Speaker 2: not less money.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Yes.
- 23:17Speaker 5: And on the back end, so we keep using some
- 23:19Speaker 5: of this to then decrease more of the income tax.
- 23:22Speaker 5: You'll see that again next year. And the sales tax
- 23:26Speaker 5: holiday fund, more money for seniors for that homestead side.
- 23:31Speaker 5: And then we're using $ 200 million to actually pay off
- 23:35Speaker 5: certain debts that we're not spending more on. interest on
- 23:40Speaker 5: bonds and different things like that. It's trying to lower
- 23:42Speaker 5: than our actual debt amount as well.
- 23:44Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be refreshing?
- 23:45Speaker 2: I was listening where Governor DeSantis in Florida is bragging
- 23:49Speaker 2: how this is another year where they're spending less money
- 23:52Speaker 2: than they did the year before. And they did that
- 23:54Speaker 2: the year before that. I mean, he's got a consistent
- 23:56Speaker 2: record as governor of spending less money each year than
- 24:00Speaker 2: he did the year before. Wouldn't that be refreshing to
- 24:03Speaker 2: see that happen for a change by government?
- 24:07Speaker 5: That absolutely would be.
- 24:09Speaker 2: But I shouldn't hold my breath. But, I mean, they're
- 24:12Speaker 2: doing it in Florida. I mean, it's really something to
- 24:15Speaker 2: watch that happen. And basically to brag about it, hey,
- 24:18Speaker 2: guess what? We're spending less money this year than we
- 24:21Speaker 2: did last year than we did the year before. So
- 24:24Speaker 2: they're going in the right direction as opposed to increasing
- 24:27Speaker 2: government spending every year.
- 24:30Speaker 5: I would say hold your breath until our next budget
- 24:33Speaker 5: with Governor Ramaswamy.
- 24:35Speaker 1: Hopefully.
- 24:35Speaker 5: And like I tell folks, buckle up.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's hopefully because if you believe polling,
- 24:42Speaker 2: I mean, polling, it could be neck and neck with
- 24:45Speaker 2: Amy Acton and Ramaswamy. And if you believe the polling,
- 24:47Speaker 2: then Sherrod Brown is ahead of Houston, if you believe
- 24:51Speaker 2: the polling.
- 24:53Speaker 1: We shall see.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Of course, it's a long time between then and now,
- 24:56Speaker 2: and a lot depends on what happens in Iran and
- 24:59Speaker 2: inflation and this war situation. And if you have a
- 25:02Speaker 2: blue wave as a result of all of that. I mean,
- 25:04Speaker 2: so there's so many variables, it's hard to predict. But
- 25:07Speaker 2: if you look at what it is now, Amy Acton's
- 25:10Speaker 2: doing pretty good as far as governor, and Sherrod Brown's
- 25:12Speaker 2: doing pretty good as far as returning to the Senate.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Much to my chagrin.
- 25:16Speaker 5: I think once folks, Sherrod Brown's his own thing. But
- 25:23Speaker 5: especially Amy Acton, once folks pay a little bit of
- 25:26Speaker 5: attention to what she's actually proposing, what an Ohio would
- 25:30Speaker 5: look like under her, those polls, even if they're frustrated
- 25:34Speaker 5: and they're upset, I think we're going to see those
- 25:36Speaker 5: polls tightening, especially over the summer. But you're right. If
- 25:40Speaker 5: we still have $ 5 gas, if inflation keeps going up
- 25:43Speaker 5: through the roof and people just don't see a reason
- 25:47Speaker 5: to vote to stay.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Home, Right.
- 25:50Speaker 5: And, yeah, we'll have an Amy Acton governor.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Right. And then you'll really see a nightmare happen.
- 25:55Speaker 2: I mean, this is the Amy Acton that quits when
- 25:57Speaker 2: she couldn't take the heat as the state's doctor.
- 26:00Speaker 1: How's she going to handle governor?
- 26:03Speaker 5: This is the Amy Acton who's promising to spend about
- 26:05Speaker 5: $ 20 billion in her first budget on... above and beyond
- 26:09Speaker 5: things that we're already spending now on top of giving
- 26:12Speaker 5: schools all that they want on top.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Of everything else. Yeah, growing governments, needing more money. I mean,
- 26:18Speaker 2: it's going in totally the opposite direction. If you vote
- 26:21Speaker 2: for Sherrod Brown or Amy Acton, you should have your
- 26:23Speaker 2: head examined.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I mean, absolutely.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Sherrod Brown supported every lunatic thing Joe Biden was for.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Every single thing. And Amy Acton is a far left
- 26:32Speaker 2: person as well. So DeWine's got to get his act together, though,
- 26:37Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, and start signing his stuff.
- 26:40Speaker 2: I mean, first and foremost, this stuff should have never
- 26:44Speaker 2: happened in the first place. Are we in agreement there,
- 26:46Speaker 2: this fraud in Ohio? Should have never happened in the
- 26:49Speaker 2: first place.
- 26:49Speaker 4: 100%.
- 26:51Speaker 5: And it's horrible that It took what it did.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Here's what happened.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I mean, would you not agree this was going on?
- 26:59Speaker 2: We're never going to get the money back. It was
- 27:02Speaker 2: going on in Minnesota. The only way this came to
- 27:04Speaker 2: light was because of this young Nick Shirley who brought
- 27:07Speaker 2: it to light in Minnesota, and then it started to
- 27:10Speaker 2: come to light in Ohio. If it wasn't for him
- 27:12Speaker 2: and that old guy that was really his research guy,
- 27:15Speaker 2: I don't.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Know that we would even be aware of it in Ohio.
- 27:19Speaker 1: But I'm glad we are aware of it.
- 27:21Speaker 2: But I sit back as a taxpayer saying, where was
- 27:23Speaker 2: the check and balance system when all of this was
- 27:25Speaker 2: going on?
- 27:26Speaker 1: Once the money's stolen and gone, it's stolen and gone.
- 27:28Speaker 2: You're never going to get the money back from the
- 27:30Speaker 2: Somalian community. So will anybody go to jail? I mean,
- 27:35Speaker 2: I'll wait to see that. And I'm glad to see
- 27:38Speaker 2: that there's check and balances. You say you've got a daycare,
- 27:42Speaker 2: you say these kids are showing up, well, now you've
- 27:44Speaker 2: got to prove it. You say you're taking care of
- 27:47Speaker 2: some relative, well, now you've got to prove it. And
- 27:52Speaker 2: stop the fraud that's going on. And I think all
- 27:55Speaker 2: of this should be signed, it should get underway immediately.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Would you agree?
- 28:00Speaker 5: Yeah, and these were things, and it just shows that sometimes,
- 28:04Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but sometimes it takes a
- 28:06Speaker 5: crisis to actually move people into action. we have put
- 28:11Speaker 5: a lot of this in the previous year's budgets, vetoed,
- 28:15Speaker 5: weren't able to get enough votes to override vetoes, weren't
- 28:17Speaker 5: able to get enough public support behind us to motivate members.
- 28:21Speaker 5: And now, you know, these bills were put together in
- 28:25Speaker 5: about one month, signed by both chambers, passed, pushed.
- 28:31Speaker 2: I mean, they're moving at great speed, as they should
- 28:36Speaker 2: be moving. The constitutional amendment... Did it pass for voter
- 28:41Speaker 2: ID in Ohio?
- 28:43Speaker 1: Yes.
- 28:43Speaker 5: So, um, so, uh, that's SGR. And that is a
- 28:50Speaker 5: constitutional amendment that folks will see on their ballot this November.
- 28:55Speaker 5: And what this constitutional amendment says is that photo ID,
- 28:59Speaker 5: it's a floor, it's essentially a base level that puts
- 29:02Speaker 5: our current practice into law, into the constitution. As we're worried,
- 29:07Speaker 5: future inter-assemblies, future governors, future, Democratic Secretary of State, she
- 29:12Speaker 5: actually voted against this, the Democrat running for Secretary of State.
- 29:16Speaker 5: We're worried if they get into office, they'll then pull
- 29:20Speaker 5: back our photo ID requirements for voting.
- 29:23Speaker 1: So this will be on my ballot in November? Yes.
- 29:28Speaker 2: All right, which basically says we keep the system we have.
- 29:31Speaker 2: When I show up at the church, I've got to
- 29:32Speaker 2: show my ID to vote, right?
- 29:34Speaker 5: Yes, photo ID in person, and then there's a huge question,
- 29:38Speaker 5: lots of conversations over mail-in ballots. And what type of ID,
- 29:43Speaker 5: photo ID, do you have to show with mail-in ballots?
- 29:47Speaker 5: So constitutional amendment is that floor. It's that guaranteed amount
- 29:53Speaker 5: of essentially validation of the photo. But we simultaneously passed
- 29:58Speaker 5: House Bill 472. And folks can look at any of
- 30:02Speaker 5: these house bills on our website and read them and
- 30:04Speaker 5: see summaries. And what House Bill 472 says is that
- 30:08Speaker 5: if you are doing mail-in balloting, you are requesting an
- 30:13Speaker 5: absentee ballot to be mailed to you, filling it out,
- 30:15Speaker 5: mailing it back in, there are now extra levels of
- 30:19Speaker 5: essentially protection you have to go through in order to
- 30:23Speaker 5: get that ballot in return.
- 30:24Speaker 6: Right.
- 30:26Speaker 5: And that will include... either having an actual copy of
- 30:30Speaker 5: your photo ID. So instead of you going, voting in person,
- 30:35Speaker 5: showing them your ID, you're actually making a copy, turning
- 30:38Speaker 5: it out, putting it into the envelope, sending it in
- 30:40Speaker 5: the board of elections to show this is the person,
- 30:43Speaker 5: this is who's submitting, or we're following a model from Kentucky.
- 30:48Speaker 5: She uses an online portal, similar to like the Bureau
- 30:52Speaker 5: of Motor Vehicles, but their secretary of state's office. That's
- 30:56Speaker 5: how you can request your absentee ballot instead. If you
- 30:58Speaker 5: don't want to do it through the mail, you request
- 31:00Speaker 5: it that way. They'll mail it to you. But you
- 31:02Speaker 5: can actually upload your driver's license as a way to show,
- 31:06Speaker 5: I am who I say I am. Here's my ID.
- 31:09Speaker 5: Here's my Social Security number. Here's my details. Send me
- 31:12Speaker 5: my absentee mail-in ballot.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Well, I'll be voting for that in November because I
- 31:17Speaker 2: think how we do elections in Ohio is the right way,
- 31:19Speaker 2: unlike California where they mail everybody a ballot.
- 31:22Speaker 1: They just mail it out, like I say a million times.
- 31:25Speaker 2: How do they know that you're not dead? How do
- 31:27Speaker 2: they know that you haven't moved? Who's voting that ballot?
- 31:30Speaker 2: It's ripe for fraud. I mean, how do you get
- 31:33Speaker 2: 25,000 ballots returned? And what's interesting is the 25,000 ballots
- 31:37Speaker 2: that are returned, not a single one voted for the Republican.
- 31:41Speaker 2: and all of them voted to increase the state sales
- 31:43Speaker 2: tax to 10%.
- 31:46Speaker 1: How does that happen?
- 31:48Speaker 2: I mean, who says, give me this ballot, I'm going
- 31:52Speaker 2: to vote for these incompetent Democrats that don't do anything right, 25,000,
- 31:57Speaker 2: and also they all vote to raise the state sales
- 32:00Speaker 2: tax to 10% in California.
- 32:04Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just so fraudulent.
- 32:10Speaker 2: And to see Kristen Welker on Meet the Press tell Trump,
- 32:14Speaker 2: what makes you think, what proof do you have? My
- 32:17Speaker 2: commenter is, what proof do you have that things are
- 32:18Speaker 2: done legitimately? Mathematically, none of this stuff adds up. And
- 32:24Speaker 2: I'm glad to see we make the commitment in Ohio
- 32:27Speaker 2: to see that something like that doesn't happen if we
- 32:30Speaker 2: get Democrats in the future, because it makes a joke
- 32:33Speaker 2: of your it takes all confidence you have out of
- 32:36Speaker 2: your out of the power of your of your vote.
- 32:40Speaker 2: I don't want to see the fraud in Ohio like
- 32:44Speaker 2: I see in other states. So I think that's one
- 32:47Speaker 2: of the most important issues you could have on our
- 32:49Speaker 2: November ballots. And I'm glad to see you lowered the
- 32:53Speaker 2: state income tax, and yet it generated more revenue. And
- 32:56Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that the additional revenue will go
- 32:58Speaker 2: to benefit seniors on homestead exemptions. And it will go
- 33:03Speaker 2: to benefit the tax holiday in 2027. I'm glad to
- 33:05Speaker 2: see that. And what else? I mean, you're working on
- 33:11Speaker 2: data centers, right?
- 33:13Speaker 5: Yes. So that was going to be the last kind
- 33:15Speaker 5: of large bill. We, like I said, had a lot
- 33:17Speaker 5: of other bills that folks will care about. You can
- 33:20Speaker 5: see that on our website, what we passed. A data
- 33:23Speaker 5: center bill was supposed to be passed last night that
- 33:26Speaker 5: added a whole bunch of extra regulations. That could not
- 33:30Speaker 5: get the votes.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Why not?
- 33:32Speaker 5: Not because of what you might think. So they've had
- 33:37Speaker 5: a select committee. to kind of dive into data centers, energy, water,
- 33:43Speaker 5: tax side, all the different pieces, bring them all together.
- 33:47Speaker 5: The compromise kind of bill was what was produced from
- 33:49Speaker 5: that select committee. A lot of it is very good.
- 33:53Speaker 5: It actually includes my House Bill 706, which prevents the
- 33:57Speaker 5: cost shifting on electricity when a data center comes in.
- 34:03Speaker 5: The problem was the tax side. So the compromise that
- 34:08Speaker 5: they had come up with was not removing the sales
- 34:12Speaker 5: tax exemption.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Stand by. Okay, stand by. Now I'm starting to boil here.
- 34:16Speaker 2: You've got to hear this part.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Stand by. Dave Thomas, state rep. I'm back with him
- 34:21Speaker 1: in a minute. All right, this.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Is going to start to fry in you folks. So
- 34:29Speaker 2: this is the data center bill. And you're telling me,
- 34:34Speaker 2: Just tell me the side here about, as I said
- 34:38Speaker 2: a million times, we're the sweet spot. We don't have
- 34:40Speaker 2: to give them any tax breaks. DeWine folks gave data
- 34:43Speaker 2: centers this sales tax break. They don't have to pay
- 34:46Speaker 2: sales tax on anything they buy to build these giant centers.
- 34:49Speaker 2: You have to if you're going to add on to
- 34:51Speaker 2: your garage, but these data centers don't have to do that.
- 34:55Speaker 2: When that information came out, the state lost over a
- 34:57Speaker 2: billion dollars because of that decision of his. He put
- 35:00Speaker 2: a hold on it as a result of the outcry
- 35:04Speaker 2: because we were informed about it. And you're telling me
- 35:07Speaker 2: in this new bill you can't prohibit this permanently? Give
- 35:11Speaker 2: me the details here.
- 35:14Speaker 5: Yeah, so if you remember in the budget last year,
- 35:16Speaker 5: we removed the exemption, we vetoed it, and then what happens,
- 35:19Speaker 5: like you just said, so this select committee, dive into
- 35:23Speaker 5: data centers, their kind of compromise recommendation that we were
- 35:27Speaker 5: going to vote on yesterday, there's a whole bunch of
- 35:30Speaker 5: good things, but on the sales tax side, It changed
- 35:33Speaker 5: the exemption from the potential of 100%, which is what
- 35:36Speaker 5: is current, down to then 50% if data centers locate
- 35:42Speaker 5: on essentially brownfields, if they have closed-loop water, if they
- 35:47Speaker 5: bring their own electric power, and if they're larger than
- 35:51Speaker 5: 25 megawatts, if I remember correctly. So that was essentially
- 35:56Speaker 5: that select committee's compromise. That was the bill that we
- 35:58Speaker 5: were all discussing. But I give a lot of kudos
- 36:02Speaker 5: to Tex Fisher. He was one of the ones as
- 36:05Speaker 5: well that has been pushing back on granting these exemptions
- 36:09Speaker 5: and still having them in law.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 36:11Speaker 5: They couldn't come to an agreement over what could be done.
- 36:16Speaker 5: So that bill, which there's good and bad because the
- 36:19Speaker 5: rest of the bill was exactly what we needed.
- 36:22Speaker 1: All right.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Now, hang on a second. Just let me do my
- 36:25Speaker 2: break and just bear with me a little bit after
- 36:26Speaker 2: 4 o'clock. I want you to explain this, what the
- 36:29Speaker 2: good and the bad was of this, then I'll let
- 36:31Speaker 2: you go, okay?
- 36:32Speaker 1: Stand by. State Rep. Dave Thomas, back with him in
- 36:34Speaker 1: a minute. Stay tuned.
- 36:40Speaker 4: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. At the White House,
- 36:43Speaker 4: President Trump signaling a peace agreement with Iran is close.
- 36:47Speaker 7: We have a signing soon, and the documents are in
- 36:53Speaker 7: pretty final shape, so we'll see.
- 36:56Speaker 4: A source with knowledge of the negotiations tells ABC News
- 36:59Speaker 4: the deal is very close as mediators hit some breakthroughs.
- 37:02Speaker 4: The president now backing away from new strikes against Iran.
- 37:06Speaker 4: ABC's Stephen Portnoy has details.
- 37:08Speaker 7: What we heard the president say is that he has
- 37:10Speaker 7: just spoken to the prime minister of Israel, the heads
- 37:12Speaker 7: of Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, will soon be
- 37:15Speaker 7: talking to Turkey. He said the Strait of Hormuz will
- 37:18Speaker 7: be open. He mentioned that the U.S. has been engaged
- 37:20Speaker 7: in uh... what had been secret missions to take ships
- 37:24Speaker 7: oil tankers out of the state of hormuz transiting them
- 37:26Speaker 7: through to the global market place.
- 37:28Speaker 4: Just hours after five extension measures failed in both the
- 37:31Speaker 4: house and senate over bill polti's role as acting d
- 37:35Speaker 4: and i director President Trump announced the nomination of U.S.
- 37:38Speaker 4: Attorney and former SEC Chair Jay Clayton to lead the agency.
- 37:42Speaker 4: ABC's Catherine Falders has more on Clayton's experience.
- 37:45Speaker 8: While he is a highly respected lawyer, he sits at
- 37:49Speaker 8: the top of one of the most largest and arguably
- 37:54Speaker 8: one of the most important U.S. Attorney's offices in the country.
- 37:57Speaker 8: The question is, does he really have that much more
- 37:59Speaker 8: national security experience than Bill Pulte, the previous person who
- 38:04Speaker 8: Trump said was going to serve as acting, does?
- 38:06Speaker 4: Celebrations in New York City over the New York Knicks.
- 38:09Speaker 4: Last-minute Game 4 win last night against the San Antonio Spurs,
- 38:12Speaker 4: leading police to arrest more than 50 people. Outside Madison
- 38:16Speaker 4: Square Garden, New York police say due to rowdy fans
- 38:19Speaker 4: and picking fights and climbing poles, authorities say 10 officers
- 38:22Speaker 4: were injured. And in Mexico, protests ahead of the World
- 38:26Speaker 4: Cup's first match in Mexico City. Demonstrators using the high-profile
- 38:30Speaker 4: event to bring light to other causes, including missing individuals.
- 38:34Speaker 4: Mexico now co-hosting the World Cup with Canada and the U.S.
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