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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, ball systems going clear the lift up? What's up?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 3: Tyler Tambline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 3: edition of the Thursday night Football Showdown Show here on
- 0:43Speaker 3: the ship in Nation YouTube station.
- 0:44Speaker 1: You like free shows, you like NFL, you like dfs.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Make sure you're subscribe, make sure you hit that like
- 0:49Speaker 3: thumbs up on the way in god hoop got title
- 0:52Speaker 3: here with me as always, I'm gonna be breaking down
- 0:54Speaker 3: all things for the Steelers at the Bengals and AFC
- 0:57Speaker 3: North Battle will call them.
- 0:59Speaker 1: But it's the old men tonight, Hoho. So I'm gonna
- 1:01Speaker 1: start with you. We've got Aaron Rodgers at Joe Flacco.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Maybe here we go.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's an interesting one. Obviously, the combined
- 1:10Speaker 4: age of the quarterbacks is eighty two, which I don't know.
- 1:13Speaker 4: That's got to be like probably the first time I'm
- 1:15Speaker 4: assuming in the history of the NFL, NFL potentially in
- 1:19Speaker 4: regards to dfs, like, I think Joe Flacco in there
- 1:23Speaker 4: makes this a more appealing game. The Bengals were able
- 1:26Speaker 4: to move the ball quite a bit better against the
- 1:29Speaker 4: Packers with Flaco in there over Jake Browning. Like you know,
- 1:33Speaker 4: Flaco knows how to do it. I mean that's kind
- 1:35Speaker 4: of what he's been doing the last couple of years
- 1:36Speaker 4: when given the opportunity, get the job done in garbage time,
- 1:40Speaker 4: essentially find the top receivers, and Jamar Chase kind of
- 1:43Speaker 4: got back on track t Higgins a little bit. So
- 1:46Speaker 4: the offense is definitely better off. And that was just
- 1:49Speaker 4: Week one, so, you know, kind of interesting to see
- 1:52Speaker 4: what It is a tough spot. Pittsburgh does have a
- 1:54Speaker 4: good defense, but I think the fact that Flaco is
- 1:57Speaker 4: in there makes us way more appealing from a fantasy perspective.
- 2:01Speaker 4: If we're dealing with another Jake Browning start, this would
- 2:04Speaker 4: not be as exciting of a conversation as we get
- 2:08Speaker 4: to have now, I think with Flaco in there, which
- 2:09Speaker 4: is wild to say because the dude's forty one years old.
- 2:13Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's a fine game for fantasy.
- 2:17Speaker 4: I think it's a game that, you know, really, what
- 2:20Speaker 4: you kind of want is the Bengals to at least
- 2:22Speaker 4: be able to hang today, and I think they do
- 2:25Speaker 4: and I think they have a chance to maybe win
- 2:27Speaker 4: this game. I mean, these Thursday night games have been
- 2:30Speaker 4: weird from a finishing standpoint. I mean, we saw the
- 2:34Speaker 4: Eagles go down to the Giants last week. There's another upset.
- 2:38Speaker 4: I believe the week before these Thursday night games have
- 2:40Speaker 4: played kind of weird. I think the Bengals can can
- 2:44Speaker 4: go out and get this one another week with Flacco,
- 2:46Speaker 4: which again they look much better. So yeah, kind of
- 2:50Speaker 4: in a weird way. Looking forward to this game.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Yeah, the commercials. Someone said, senior citizen discount available tonight. Title.
- 2:57Speaker 3: I think it's a good one for DFS. I mean
- 2:59Speaker 3: we might have we got five tight ends to talk
- 3:01Speaker 3: about just when we get to that position, let alone
- 3:03Speaker 3: all the other stuff. So what's your thoughts on this slate?
- 3:05Speaker 1: And how you doing? My man? What's going on?
- 3:07Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it seems like a pretty good DFS game.
- 3:09Speaker 5: I agree with Flacco. Seems like an upgrade over Browning
- 3:11Speaker 5: for the pass catchers. I think they moved the ball better. Yeah,
- 3:15Speaker 5: a lot of chaos we've seen on Thursday Night DFS wise, though,
- 3:18Speaker 5: you can leave money on the table. There's a whole
- 3:20Speaker 5: bunch of tight ends. Multiple running backs are mixing in
- 3:22Speaker 5: here and there. If there's a solo shipper up top,
- 3:25Speaker 5: I would not be surprised, and any time I think
- 3:27Speaker 5: that's the case that's always a good DFS slate.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.
- 3:30Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really interesting. I'm excited to
- 3:32Speaker 3: break this one down with you guys real quick. I
- 3:33Speaker 3: posted this so the golf one was going around again,
- 3:36Speaker 3: and I had some phone missus tambo last time title,
- 3:40Speaker 3: missus title? How many could she get? Ten NFL players?
- 3:43Speaker 3: How do you think that would look?
- 3:44Speaker 5: I saw your thing first of all the barrios. Yeah,
- 3:46Speaker 5: like Alex Earl, I believe it is Maddy's or my
- 3:49Speaker 5: wife's mentioned that too. She's like a big TikTok person,
- 3:52Speaker 5: so I was laughing at that. How many could Maddy get?
- 3:55Speaker 5: Probably about tennis. I mean, she doesn't love football. She
- 3:58Speaker 5: doesn't watch too much. I'm always at the Boy on
- 4:00Speaker 5: Sunday watching, so she's not even like having to be
- 4:03Speaker 5: around watching the game, so it's not even on the screen.
- 4:06Speaker 5: Probably tens about good.
- 4:07Speaker 1: That's what I said to my wife.
- 4:08Speaker 3: You can name ten perfect, If you can name more,
- 4:10Speaker 3: go and then maybe we'll do a bigger number.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And she just hit ten barely.
- 4:13Speaker 3: She had freaking who she had Tucker the kicker, And
- 4:16Speaker 3: someone said, did she mean dick to the kicker? No,
- 4:18Speaker 3: she just didn't know about the happy endings yet, and
- 4:20Speaker 3: she had Justin Tucker on there from the Ravens fandom days.
- 4:24Speaker 3: What do you think about Missus Hoop. I've hung out
- 4:26Speaker 3: with Missus Hoop a few times. I think she could
- 4:27Speaker 3: hold her own.
- 4:28Speaker 4: What do you think? Yeah, so it would be I
- 4:30Speaker 4: think the first two would be pretty similar, like Kelsey
- 4:33Speaker 4: and Mahomes, Like, I think she would start there. She
- 4:35Speaker 4: now is a full on Chiefs hater, like she cannot
- 4:38Speaker 4: stand the Chiefs because the Taylor Swift stuff. She said,
- 4:41Speaker 4: she's over it. So anytime the Chiefs are on, she's
- 4:44Speaker 4: rooting against them, which is kind of controversial in our
- 4:46Speaker 4: household because my son's favorite player is still Patrick Mahomes,
- 4:50Speaker 4: so he's like a big Chiefs guy. She is so
- 4:52Speaker 4: anti chief she goes they always win. I'm sick of
- 4:54Speaker 4: watching it. It's bullshit. Like she's over the Taylor Swift thing.
- 4:58Speaker 4: She hates Kelsey, which to do as well now, but
- 5:01Speaker 4: I still like Mahomes, So she would definitely start Kelsey
- 5:03Speaker 4: and Mahomes and then I think it would be a
- 5:04Speaker 4: lot of Lions. She got big into the Lions, like
- 5:06Speaker 4: last year, the year before when they started going on
- 5:09Speaker 4: this run We've gone to a lot of games, so
- 5:11Speaker 4: I think it would be you're gonna start, It would
- 5:13Speaker 4: be Kelsey, it would be Mahomes, she'd go to golf,
- 5:16Speaker 4: Monro Gibbs, Montgomery, Jamison Williams, Aiden Hutchinson. It would all
- 5:22Speaker 4: be lions after that. You know what I'm gonna I'll
- 5:25Speaker 4: have her do it after the show, because yeah.
- 5:28Speaker 3: You go to my ex at toteg and Tambo. You
- 5:30Speaker 3: can see it there what my wife got. She had
- 5:32Speaker 3: like misspellings. She put Braxton dolphins. But it's like I
- 5:35Speaker 3: didn't even know who that person title just said is.
- 5:37Speaker 3: But it's like an influencer and funny enough, we all
- 5:39Speaker 3: know CMC, like obvious, she said something about him too.
- 5:42Speaker 3: He's dating some girl that's on a reality show and
- 5:45Speaker 3: that's she didn't know CMC because the same reasons we do.
- 5:48Speaker 3: But just to have some fun, you guys know, that's
- 5:50Speaker 3: what we're all about. We do have some more fun upcoming.
- 5:53Speaker 3: I will say, first of all, dricking Hoopster six and
- 5:56Speaker 3: oh now this is not ending, so Hoop in the
- 6:00Speaker 3: olden ship it last week the winner took him on
- 6:02Speaker 3: six and zho Who've got the job done again? And
- 6:05Speaker 3: we still don't have the share ship, but I gotta
- 6:07Speaker 3: say everyone knows my twenty two tambo chain that I
- 6:10Speaker 3: want to get instead of scat. Well, this twenty two
- 6:13Speaker 3: is a share a ship this week and it's the
- 6:16Speaker 3: five fifty five millise. So whoever this winner is of
- 6:18Speaker 3: number twenty two, this could be the good luck charm
- 6:21Speaker 3: to get us popping for our first big cash in
- 6:23Speaker 3: the share ship. So I had to get that out
- 6:25Speaker 3: of there. When you guys get a chance, to make
- 6:27Speaker 3: sure you hit that thumbs up. The more we get
- 6:29Speaker 3: to it, we'll check in the halfway mark. See we
- 6:30Speaker 3: get that first winner, all right, get to the DFS stuff.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Grand Scheme overview title Hoop kind of gave his cuts
- 6:37Speaker 3: a little bit with Flacco being in there all of that.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Do you see sort of a certain way this game
- 6:42Speaker 3: is gonna go out of the gate? And then what
- 6:44Speaker 3: do you know about these five and a half point
- 6:46Speaker 3: five and a half home dogs? Big time, big time
- 6:50Speaker 3: favorites over the betting world long term? It used to
- 6:53Speaker 3: just be like an auto bet thing. Do you think
- 6:55Speaker 3: there's any chance here for these Bengals at home?
- 6:57Speaker 5: I think there's definitely a chance. I mean Steelers defense
- 6:59Speaker 5: is good. I always love myself some Rogers, but at
- 7:02Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's an old ass quarterback
- 7:04Speaker 5: with pretty much one weapon and DK metcalf. They're without
- 7:07Speaker 5: a lot of other stuff. I could see the Steelers
- 7:10Speaker 5: stalling plenty, and I think Flacco is an upgrade over Browning.
- 7:13Speaker 5: They actually protected him a lot better than I thought
- 7:15Speaker 5: as well. I mean, I don't want to shot on
- 7:17Speaker 5: Browning too much because at Burrow Browning they had no pressure.
- 7:21Speaker 5: The old line looked as good as it has all
- 7:23Speaker 5: year for him last year. If they can keep him
- 7:26Speaker 5: clean in the pocket like I think, the Bengals will
- 7:29Speaker 5: move the football and we'll have a pretty solid game there.
- 7:32Speaker 5: Grand scheme overview, I mean, always go to the captain ownership,
- 7:35Speaker 5: no one over twenty percent. What I'm struggling with is
- 7:38Speaker 5: the quarterbacks for captain. Now, I can easily play Flacco
- 7:41Speaker 5: at quarterback because I think there's enough he can spread
- 7:43Speaker 5: it out with Rogers. I'm going back and forth because
- 7:46Speaker 5: Rogers and DK. He loves his man Deka. Anytime he
- 7:50Speaker 5: single coverage, he'll look away the safety, He'll throw a
- 7:52Speaker 5: deep ball to him. There he is. If Rodgers gets
- 7:55Speaker 5: up like twenty three DK points, which you probably want
- 7:59Speaker 5: something around there one something like that to be optimal.
- 8:02Speaker 5: Is there enough other guys that can like spread it
- 8:05Speaker 5: out enough? And I think it would have to be
- 8:07Speaker 5: just other guys getting touchdowns and DK probably not getting
- 8:10Speaker 5: the touchdowns. So I want you to help me with
- 8:12Speaker 5: the quarterback. I can play flat, go up top, you
- 8:14Speaker 5: can spread it out enough. Rogers, I'm a little more
- 8:17Speaker 5: hesitant on, but I think it's clear like I'll be
- 8:19Speaker 5: more Chalky at captain in the sense of Jamar Chase
- 8:22Speaker 5: DK Metcalf. I think Warren's fine. Higgins is fine, but
- 8:26Speaker 5: I did say chalky. It's not a Saquon Barkley, Jalen
- 8:29Speaker 5: Hirtschalk or stuff like that. I mean they're still under
- 8:32Speaker 5: twenty percent. So that's why I think it's a good sleep.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I know we got our guys, and I'll answer that
- 8:37Speaker 3: in a second, But we got our guys. Rio and
- 8:39Speaker 3: Sheets are gonna be doing the premium SAB series show
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- 8:51Speaker 3: can check it out. This is the best day because
- 8:53Speaker 3: you get Thursday through Monday all the other sports that
- 8:56Speaker 3: go with it.
- 8:56Speaker 1: So definitely recommend that.
- 8:58Speaker 3: But I'm interested to see because I think, like Rogers
- 9:00Speaker 3: up top is a lower scoring game, and then I
- 9:03Speaker 3: could see where it works out because he's usually going
- 9:05Speaker 3: to be like the two hundred two touchdown three ten
- 9:08Speaker 3: like if that's if it's that kind of game, that's
- 9:10Speaker 3: where maybe it could matter.
- 9:11Speaker 1: But then I'd hope.
- 9:12Speaker 3: To see more of like the kickers or more of
- 9:15Speaker 3: like defense, like it could still be something more where.
- 9:17Speaker 1: It's not him just spreading it around.
- 9:19Speaker 3: The flaccoside makes it easy because you have with Chase
- 9:22Speaker 3: Higgins Yoshi if it's fant or sample whatever you want
- 9:25Speaker 3: to do that like, you could easily see him spreading
- 9:27Speaker 3: it around.
- 9:27Speaker 1: But I actually have less interest in the in the quarterbacks.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Up top today than usual, but I would agree with
- 9:32Speaker 3: your assessment. On the other side, new Ones had said this,
- 9:36Speaker 3: I guy, Derek, you must be taking a break or
- 9:38Speaker 3: gave the class a little little movie break or something
- 9:41Speaker 3: they gotta go do while he's watching the show Lucky
- 9:43Speaker 3: Number favorite show and then bad Lands making the good
- 9:46Speaker 3: reminder there. It is week number seven as well, so
- 9:49Speaker 3: you're making mixing Lady Luckin and my number is twenty
- 9:52Speaker 3: two as well, so I love that call. Maybe we
- 9:54Speaker 3: do get a big one this week with Ship of Games, Hoop,
- 9:56Speaker 3: anything else you want to add to everything.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Title just went through.
- 9:58Speaker 3: As far as breaking it down, I mean you're on
- 10:00Speaker 3: talked about the Bengals at home, but just making sure.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty similar. I will say, I just uh, you
- 10:05Speaker 4: saw me stepped away, step away. I went upstairs, and
- 10:08Speaker 4: missus Hoop is on the on the case. She's gonna
- 10:11Speaker 4: text me the ten players that first come a bunch.
- 10:14Speaker 4: She goes ten, she goes that's a lot. So I
- 10:17Speaker 4: don't know what we're gonna get. So she was not
- 10:18Speaker 4: thrilled with the letter cheat.
- 10:20Speaker 1: I don't think you know what else the Lions thing
- 10:22Speaker 1: might be cheating.
- 10:23Speaker 3: It might be like a three three home team Max
- 10:25Speaker 3: when you live, like yeah, come out, yeah three Lions quick,
- 10:28Speaker 3: there's three.
- 10:29Speaker 4: I will I will guarantee. I mean my homes and
- 10:32Speaker 4: Kelsey will be on that list. I feel like any
- 10:34Speaker 4: sort of wife, girlfriend that's not deep into football, like
- 10:38Speaker 4: those are going to be the first two, Like, I
- 10:39Speaker 4: have a feeling those are going to definitely be.
- 10:41Speaker 1: The first two right now.
- 10:42Speaker 3: He was even number one on my way, Like he
- 10:44Speaker 3: just popped up like it's automatic. He's everywhere and gets
- 10:46Speaker 3: these notifications. If you've got kids, they're all swifties, et cetera.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Things like that typically, so you're you're gonna see And
- 10:52Speaker 3: she just dropped an album too, so you're gonna see
- 10:54Speaker 3: it a bunch for sure.
- 10:55Speaker 5: He's dropping albums, he's dropping passes. I mean, I.
- 10:58Speaker 4: Feel like that is very true, very very true.
- 11:02Speaker 1: All right, what do you got?
- 11:04Speaker 4: Pretty much the same thing. When I struggle with the quarterbacks,
- 11:07Speaker 4: especially like Aaron Rodgers, Like if Aaron Rodgers has a
- 11:11Speaker 4: big game, like it just almost has to go through
- 11:15Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf. He loves them, like, look at these other
- 11:18Speaker 4: pass catchers that he's gonna be throwing the ball to.
- 11:20Speaker 4: So that's where I struggle when it comes to Aaron Rodgers,
- 11:23Speaker 4: Like I just feel like if Rogers has a big game,
- 11:26Speaker 4: like a really big game, Dk Metcalf just goes off,
- 11:29Speaker 4: Like to me, I just don't see a lot of
- 11:31Speaker 4: spreading it around stuff. So that's where I struggle with him.
- 11:35Speaker 4: And then when it comes to Flaco. I mean, it's
- 11:38Speaker 4: Joe freaking Flacco like man Like, can I really envision
- 11:42Speaker 4: him being the captain? Like, so what do you do?
- 11:46Speaker 4: Last week? He got eighteen point eight Fantasy points, He
- 11:50Speaker 4: threw the ball forty five times to twenty and two touchdowns, Like,
- 11:55Speaker 4: what is it gonna take for him to be up there?
- 11:58Speaker 4: Probably a lower scoring game where you know, twenty is
- 12:02Speaker 4: the winner. I mean a lot of his stuff I'm
- 12:04Speaker 4: assuming goes through Jamar Chase, so he would have to
- 12:08Speaker 4: spread it out, and obviously you have to be Chase
- 12:10Speaker 4: and Higgins spreading it out quite a bit between those
- 12:13Speaker 4: two and then maybe like one of the tight ends
- 12:16Speaker 4: gets something. So I just I really struggle with those guys,
- 12:19Speaker 4: Like you know, title I think kind of alluded to
- 12:22Speaker 4: it where it just feels like one of these these
- 12:24Speaker 4: guys will will have the big game, whether it's you know,
- 12:27Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, DK Metcalf, T Higgins, Jalen Morin. I guess
- 12:32Speaker 4: maybe Chase Brown. I think that's a somewhat interesting name.
- 12:35Speaker 4: He has to get squeezed up there. I mean, he's
- 12:38Speaker 4: done nothing, He didn't do anything last week. I don't
- 12:40Speaker 4: know if I really like him out there. I mean,
- 12:42Speaker 4: he's a guy that I think if you guys have interest,
- 12:44Speaker 4: you could potentially talk me into him. But like, I
- 12:48Speaker 4: really like these pass catchers today. I think one of
- 12:50Speaker 4: them gets the job done. Yeah, the Trey Hendricks thing
- 12:54Speaker 4: is definitely disappointed. That sounds like he's not going to
- 12:56Speaker 4: play in this game. In regards to not disappointed, I say,
- 12:59Speaker 4: in regard to the Bengals being up, being able to
- 13:03Speaker 4: put up a better fighter, potentially winning him out is
- 13:05Speaker 4: pretty big. Obviously good for the Pittsburgh offense. So I mean,
- 13:09Speaker 4: the dude might be the you know, definitely one of
- 13:11Speaker 4: the best defensive players in the NFL. So probably won't
- 13:15Speaker 4: be doing anything too crazy. And I currently lean like
- 13:18Speaker 4: not playing one of the quarterbacks up top. I really,
- 13:21Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I've kind of hit on him
- 13:23Speaker 4: a couple of times. I just really like DK Metcalf today.
- 13:26Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a big DK
- 13:28Speaker 4: Metcalf game, and I might take a pretty aggressive stance
- 13:32Speaker 4: on him, like he's shown up but thirteen percent captain ownership,
- 13:36Speaker 4: I might I might do something crazy with him today
- 13:39Speaker 4: and hope he kind of goes off because I just
- 13:40Speaker 4: I feel like he could have a really really big
- 13:42Speaker 4: game here. I mean, look at the look at the
- 13:44Speaker 4: other names the other pass catchers that Aaron Rodger would
- 13:48Speaker 4: be throwing the ball to. I mean Scottie Miller, Roman
- 13:51Speaker 4: Wilson and then like four different tight ends potentially, Like
- 13:55Speaker 4: I just I really like DK today up top.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Looking at some stuff here to see if I could
- 14:00Speaker 3: just build out a rough idea of it and what
- 14:01Speaker 3: actually fits in.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go through it all live.
- 14:04Speaker 3: But I'll just say, like one thing that stood up
- 14:06Speaker 3: to me title when I kick it back to you,
- 14:07Speaker 3: just for some other thoughts up there, is like the
- 14:09Speaker 3: two four is definitely in play today, Like it's if
- 14:11Speaker 3: you whatever you want to look at it. We always
- 14:13Speaker 3: talk about your big one at the Millimaker where you
- 14:16Speaker 3: got like one hundred and thirteen thousand with Worthy and
- 14:18Speaker 3: then you just had him as the captain with I
- 14:20Speaker 3: think it was Mahomes and then four other guys whatever
- 14:23Speaker 3: the I forget who was it Pacheco in there was
- 14:24Speaker 3: it met Mahomes.
- 14:25Speaker 5: It was Mahomes, Ma Homes.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had the two four set up? Is
- 14:27Speaker 3: I could see that today with like that's all it
- 14:30Speaker 3: is it's Rogers and it's Metcalf, and then you get
- 14:32Speaker 3: four Bengals in the flex, or it's Jamar and Flacco
- 14:37Speaker 3: or Higgins and Flacco and then you get four Pittsburgh
- 14:39Speaker 3: guys in the flex, and just see how the game
- 14:41Speaker 3: goes that way, because you'll be able to leave money
- 14:43Speaker 3: on the table, You'll be able to do just a
- 14:44Speaker 3: ton of different stuff, and that could be the way
- 14:47Speaker 3: it goes. I think the other thing that's interesting, at
- 14:49Speaker 3: least the Metcalf one is spot on. I mean, Hoop
- 14:50Speaker 3: and I are completely dialed in on that one. It's
- 14:53Speaker 3: the other side where it's two grand different, so it's
- 14:57Speaker 3: not like you can't find it quickly. I think the
- 14:58Speaker 3: bigger thing about the Chase Higgins or sorry, the Chase
- 15:01Speaker 3: vers Higgins thing for me title is that you can
- 15:04Speaker 3: easily find the two grand. So the ownership is easily
- 15:06Speaker 3: going to be Jamar Chase. He wears the number one.
- 15:09Speaker 3: He is what everyone knows is the number one. But
- 15:12Speaker 3: we've seen a ton even in a long term sample
- 15:14Speaker 3: size with Burrow, et cetera, where when Higgins is healthy
- 15:17Speaker 3: and plays, there is definitely some value to have him there.
- 15:19Speaker 3: And if Flaco decides to lock in on him, or
- 15:21Speaker 3: if they decide to lock down on Chase, then it
- 15:23Speaker 3: opens up for Higgins. I don't think as many people
- 15:26Speaker 3: will get there tonight because they're gonna just have the
- 15:28Speaker 3: money to spend, no problem with all those other positions.
- 15:31Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think that's probably true, which could lead
- 15:33Speaker 5: to Chase getting a little steam like I'm gonna play Chase,
- 15:36Speaker 5: I'm gonna play DK. I don't love the quarterbacks much.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Higgins is someone I really like at ownership. He's had
- 15:41Speaker 5: a lot. I mean, his area ards have been solid,
- 15:44Speaker 5: he just hasn't connected. But I do think Flacco again
- 15:47Speaker 5: is an upgrade for the passing game. Jalen Warren. I
- 15:49Speaker 5: mean we're looking touchdown props on the slate. Only one
- 15:52Speaker 5: guy favor to score, which is Jalen Warren at minus
- 15:54Speaker 5: one thirty. Chase Brown the second best at plus one ten.
- 15:58Speaker 5: So I mean the second best touchdown prop pretty low
- 16:00Speaker 5: owned at captain. He also can catch some dumpoffs. He'll
- 16:03Speaker 5: be a guy that I'll be playing a little bit
- 16:04Speaker 5: up top. So when we get to like the flex buthers.
- 16:07Speaker 5: So p Ryan is mixing in a lot more with
- 16:10Speaker 5: Chase Brown than it was to start the year and
- 16:12Speaker 5: projected I'm not gonna play p Ryan captain, I don't think,
- 16:16Speaker 5: but when we get to Flex, he's in play, and
- 16:17Speaker 5: it does make Chase Brown a little more concerning. And
- 16:20Speaker 5: Kenny Gainwell, he's ever since his big Sunday morning game
- 16:24Speaker 5: in London or Dublin or whatever it was, like he
- 16:26Speaker 5: and Jillen Warren have split pretty heavy too. I think
- 16:30Speaker 5: I am going to play a little Kenny Gainwell at captain.
- 16:33Speaker 5: He's plus one eighty to score a touchdown, which is
- 16:36Speaker 5: fifth on the slates. He's gonna be low owned. I'm
- 16:39Speaker 5: fine playing some of these cheaper captains. I know, I
- 16:41Speaker 5: don't say it many slates, but a game that we
- 16:43Speaker 5: can see going on the under Flacco can spread it
- 16:46Speaker 5: out a good bit. If DK does get clammed, I
- 16:49Speaker 5: mean someone has to do stuff on the Pittsburgh stuff
- 16:52Speaker 5: or on the Pittsburgh side. John new Smith, Darnell Washington
- 16:56Speaker 5: will definitely talk. Darnell. He'll be pretty popular in the
- 16:58Speaker 5: Flex at his price, But and he's a big guy.
- 17:01Speaker 5: Rodgers likes him in the red zone. If he scores
- 17:03Speaker 5: fourteen today, is that enough to be up top? Maybe
- 17:06Speaker 5: it's enough to jam all the studs because I don't
- 17:08Speaker 5: like quarterbacks too much and Chase Higgins DK. Outside of them,
- 17:13Speaker 5: it's pretty wide open. I do find myself getting to
- 17:16Speaker 5: some lower tier captains, lower price captains, more so than
- 17:19Speaker 5: I have all year.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I like there's something there, and I know who
- 17:22Speaker 3: I saw. We got the list coming in a second guy,
- 17:24Speaker 3: so just stay with us. But I will say quickly,
- 17:26Speaker 3: you know there is something to be said for that
- 17:28Speaker 3: stuff later, because like the.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Discount on Darnell discount Darnell, he's getting you.
- 17:33Speaker 3: The same ownership roughly right now as John U and
- 17:35Speaker 3: that's the two grand you have it. So sometimes it's
- 17:38Speaker 3: just that even though there's similar ownership, it doesn't really
- 17:40Speaker 3: work out that way. And so I think a lot
- 17:41Speaker 3: of people are getting to Washington lineups and spending the
- 17:44Speaker 3: majority of their salary. If you're spending the majority of
- 17:47Speaker 3: your salary, you can either leave that money on the
- 17:48Speaker 3: table if you like Washington, or you could spend a
- 17:51Speaker 3: little bit more and use John HU where he may
- 17:53Speaker 3: end up coming in under if that ownership continues to
- 17:56Speaker 3: spread that way. The other thing is versus sample on
- 17:59Speaker 3: the other side, it's like a three thousand dollars difference.
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- 19:48Speaker 4: So the list is somewhat surprising. And I will say
- 19:50Speaker 4: she went with thirteen names and then dot dot dot.
- 19:54Speaker 4: I could keep going so some areas.
- 19:58Speaker 3: But wait, we got to get the Lions thing here first,
- 20:00Speaker 3: let's hear okay, So yes it does.
- 20:03Speaker 4: It starts with a barrage Alliance players, all right, So
- 20:06Speaker 4: it starts with Jared Goff, Amandra, Saint Brown, Aiden Hutchinson,
- 20:11Speaker 4: and then Montgomery. So the first four are Lions and
- 20:15Speaker 4: that's where. So she left Gibbs off the list Mony,
- 20:21Speaker 4: so Golf, Saint Brown, Hutchinson, Montgomery. Then she pivoted to
- 20:25Speaker 4: Josh Allen, who she likes. Josh Allen, I don't know.
- 20:28Speaker 4: Whenever we watch always she thinks he's good looking. So
- 20:30Speaker 4: I'm sure that's why it's at the top of the list.
- 20:32Speaker 4: So she Tamis to Josh Allen and then made another
- 20:36Speaker 4: pivot to some forty nine ers players out of nowhere,
- 20:39Speaker 4: like pivoted to forty nine ers players, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. Wow,
- 20:45Speaker 4: George Kittle's on the list.
- 20:46Speaker 3: That a podcast now, he's got a podcast now so
- 20:48Speaker 3: people know and his wife and all this stuff.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Yeah. The next one is probably the most surprising on
- 20:53Speaker 4: the list, Bosa. She goes to Bosa.
- 20:56Speaker 5: Well, that's definitely a good looking there. I mean, there's
- 20:59Speaker 5: a lot of poets.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Yeah, and she and she likes McCaffrey too. Yeah, so
- 21:02Speaker 4: now I see what's going on. She's watching football, it
- 21:05Speaker 4: looks like. And then to the obvious ones Mahomes Kelsey title,
- 21:10Speaker 4: well like this one justin Jefferson, Yes, Sir Jefferson, and
- 21:15Speaker 4: then JJ McCarthy, Dak Prescott.
- 21:18Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, what what's Michigan?
- 21:24Speaker 4: So? And then Jefferson. She watched that wide Receiver show,
- 21:27Speaker 4: so I'm assuming that's why she went there, And that
- 21:29Speaker 4: was her next comment. I watched all those shows, and
- 21:32Speaker 4: now you have me watching football.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 21:34Speaker 3: George Kittle was on that too, Remember he was yes, yes, yes,
- 21:38Speaker 3: So she knows way more than definitely my wife and
- 21:42Speaker 3: Tambo's I mean, yeah, but I'm saying this, this Allion's
- 21:45Speaker 3: thing is like Canadians, we don't have a team, and
- 21:47Speaker 3: so a couple of Ravens. So I guess it's fair
- 21:50Speaker 3: to have a couple. But she had Lamar and she
- 21:52Speaker 3: had Tucker from watch him back before. But I'm saying
- 21:55Speaker 3: I think, like, in general, you can't let him fill
- 21:57Speaker 3: it up with five of your hometown team that they
- 22:00Speaker 3: see everywhere.
- 22:02Speaker 4: You definitely got to the ten outside of the lions.
- 22:04Speaker 4: It looks like her nine and she claims she could
- 22:06Speaker 4: have kept going, so she Yeah, I think she's above
- 22:10Speaker 4: average when it comes to that.
- 22:11Speaker 5: Nah.
- 22:12Speaker 4: Yo, let's let's take it easy now. I have not
- 22:15Speaker 4: I'm definitely not going that Routeoster does well in the sheets.
- 22:19Speaker 4: I don't need to wear other dudes jerseys, I can promise.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Jeez man Bosa though it is the most unique. I
- 22:25Speaker 1: don't know if him being on it or anything.
- 22:27Speaker 3: So you really do gotta be careful about that one,
- 22:29Speaker 3: like you said, so it might be a hall pass,
- 22:33Speaker 3: Nick Mosa.
- 22:35Speaker 4: I think I have a reason why. I just don't
- 22:37Speaker 4: want to kiss anyone off, all right. I want to
- 22:41Speaker 4: politics into it. It gets a little, uh gets.
- 22:44Speaker 5: A little, That's all you have to say, right there.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that might be part of the reason.
- 22:51Speaker 1: You know, we gotta NP policies. We always talk about it,
- 22:53Speaker 1: no politics.
- 22:54Speaker 3: But it is fun when we just hit the little
- 22:56Speaker 3: side notes to it and people just get glimpses.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Title back to you anything else you want to mention.
- 23:02Speaker 1: If not, we can go to the running backs.
- 23:03Speaker 4: But I think that is get the crop top vota.
- 23:10Speaker 5: Come on, come on, all right, running backs. No, I
- 23:13Speaker 5: mean I think there's five running backs in play. The
- 23:16Speaker 5: last one, Caleb Johnson, feels like just a really large
- 23:19Speaker 5: field kind of thing. Their rookie who I mean, he
- 23:21Speaker 5: was getting no snaps earlier in the year. He's getting like,
- 23:23Speaker 5: I don't know, fifteen to twenty percent. Again, most people
- 23:26Speaker 5: probably watching this playing less than twenty teams, So I
- 23:29Speaker 5: wouldn't worry about him, but I would worry about the
- 23:31Speaker 5: other four, Chase Brown, p Ryan, I mean p Ryan's
- 23:33Speaker 5: continue to close the gap on Chase Brown, and he's
- 23:36Speaker 5: their third down back, he's a pass catcher. If he
- 23:38Speaker 5: goes four for thirty today, like, that's seven points. Maybe
- 23:42Speaker 5: that's enough. I don't know. We got him at ten percent,
- 23:45Speaker 5: that's low enough where I'll take some shots. I think
- 23:47Speaker 5: Kenny Gainwell might be my favorite. Like good, I'm good
- 23:50Speaker 5: with Chase Brown. But Gainwell really closed the gap on
- 23:53Speaker 5: Jalen Warren. And we're looking at a two thousand dollars
- 23:56Speaker 5: savings and we're looking at we have about forty percent
- 23:59Speaker 5: war in nineteen percent Gainwell, Like if he's gonna be
- 24:02Speaker 5: half the ownership, he's cheaper than Chase Brown than Warren.
- 24:07Speaker 5: He's on the field, he's plus one eighty to score
- 24:09Speaker 5: like one touchdown from these guys, especially if we think
- 24:12Speaker 5: the under can hit in this one touchdown on the
- 24:14Speaker 5: ground from Kenny Gainwell, I'm definitely taking that. And he's
- 24:17Speaker 5: fine catching passes out of the backfield too, So I
- 24:20Speaker 5: think at ownership seeing him at nineteen percent, he's probably
- 24:23Speaker 5: my favorite. But I do think all four running backs
- 24:26Speaker 5: are very much in play. I'll throw it back to
- 24:28Speaker 5: you on like, are you good playing two of them
- 24:31Speaker 5: on the same team? And if you do, how does
- 24:33Speaker 5: that lineup look and game script.
- 24:34Speaker 1: LOOKU I don't know about that.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you do go with
- 24:39Speaker 3: the Caleb stuff, I think there's a possibility because it's
- 24:42Speaker 3: like you can play Caleb and Gainwell for the same
- 24:44Speaker 3: price as Warren almost, so it's like, at least then
- 24:46Speaker 3: you look at it from a price perspective.
- 24:48Speaker 1: But does it even make sense? I don't know. And
- 24:50Speaker 1: so that's the tricky part.
- 24:52Speaker 3: We do have Hamilton High School graduate Caleb Johnson heading
- 24:56Speaker 3: back to Cincinnati for the homecoming game tonight, if you
- 25:00Speaker 3: want to roll with that. But plus six hundred and
- 25:03Speaker 3: then Ricky Pearsill came in still in the chat cooking
- 25:06Speaker 3: here said, I think they try to boost his confidence
- 25:09Speaker 3: assuming there ahead, and again I think that would be
- 25:11Speaker 3: the case. So back to like how do you do it?
- 25:13Speaker 3: I don't know, but at least it's a game script thing.
- 25:15Speaker 3: I liked your call earlier on Game Well though, like
- 25:17Speaker 3: I definitely think there's something to that, and with two
- 25:19Speaker 3: grand off at half the ownership, definitely think that's a
- 25:22Speaker 3: possibility versus in other spots we're not seeing that, Like
- 25:25Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier. We'll get to tight end later,
- 25:27Speaker 3: but Darnell is two grand less, same ownership as John
- 25:30Speaker 3: and Aga. It's different value plays, but at running back,
- 25:33Speaker 3: I think it's sixty four hundred. Game Well's fine actually
- 25:35Speaker 3: had interest in them, as does the Stone is a
- 25:37Speaker 3: little bit comfortable with them, at least at.
- 25:39Speaker 1: The captain slot.
- 25:40Speaker 3: So I think there's different builds that that could fit,
- 25:43Speaker 3: and to me, and maybe that's it, Like Game Well
- 25:45Speaker 3: does enough that if if Gamewell was captain, maybe then
- 25:48Speaker 3: it's like all right, now we can just hand the
- 25:49Speaker 3: reins to Caleb. Gamewell had a big game, But even
- 25:52Speaker 3: that it's tricky to think about with the way it
- 25:54Speaker 3: sets up. But at least those two from a Price
- 25:56Speaker 3: perspective could work, and then I think p Ryan it's
- 25:59Speaker 3: not a anying against Chase Brown. It's just like if
- 26:01Speaker 3: the Bengals are down in this game. I definitely think
- 26:04Speaker 3: you can see p Ryan mixed in a lot more.
- 26:05Speaker 3: I'm off the captain takes now more in the flex
- 26:07Speaker 3: like I said, but the p R I think could
- 26:09Speaker 3: definitely become a thing at forty four hundred hoop.
- 26:12Speaker 1: What do you think here at the running back position?
- 26:15Speaker 4: Yeah? Pretty aligned with what a lot of what title said,
- 26:19Speaker 4: and Gainwall jumped off the page at me, Like, I
- 26:22Speaker 4: think Gainwall is a phenomenal play and this is usually
- 26:25Speaker 4: the spot where I don't love the spot. I don't
- 26:29Speaker 4: love him showdowns like the backup running backs, But like
- 26:31Speaker 4: they clearly found something that week. I believe they're in
- 26:33Speaker 4: London where he played really well, had six catches. No
- 26:38Speaker 4: one really assumed he'd have that sort of role last
- 26:41Speaker 4: week with Jalen Warren back, and it was basically the
- 26:45Speaker 4: same thing minus the carries, six targets, six catches, still
- 26:49Speaker 4: got six carries for twenty two yards. Looked good. I
- 26:54Speaker 4: think he's really good play. I think a lot of
- 26:56Speaker 4: outs to get there, and the ownership definitely will We'll
- 27:01Speaker 4: get held in check, like he's gonna get some but
- 27:03Speaker 4: it's like, man, you have starting running backs right above him.
- 27:06Speaker 4: Chase Brown's only sixteen hundred more, Jalen Warren's only two
- 27:10Speaker 4: thousand more. Like it'll get held in check. It's not
- 27:13Speaker 4: gonna get anywhere crazy. I think Game Wall is a
- 27:15Speaker 4: really good play, really like Warren as well. You know,
- 27:19Speaker 4: the Chase Brown stuff I think is fine. The price
- 27:21Speaker 4: is cheap. I mean it's he's at eight k, like
- 27:23Speaker 4: he doesn't have to do anything absolutely crazy to be
- 27:26Speaker 4: optimal and fla. So you guys playing him captain his
- 27:29Speaker 4: final thoughts like gainwell Chase Brown, I.
- 27:32Speaker 5: Am, he's plus one ten to score And that's just
- 27:34Speaker 5: mainly I just don't like the quarterback, Like after you
- 27:37Speaker 5: get Chase metcalf t kind of like where are you going?
- 27:40Speaker 4: So I am, yeah, you have interest.
- 27:44Speaker 3: I'll play play a little just because the setup of
- 27:46Speaker 3: it all, but because he's twelve km because I don't
- 27:48Speaker 3: really love the quarterbacks.
- 27:48Speaker 1: But he'll definitely be lower on the spectrum for sure.
- 27:51Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely prefer him more than the quarterback. I'm not
- 27:54Speaker 4: as high on p Ryan, Like if he gets into
- 27:57Speaker 4: some lineups, that's fine, but it's like still at like
- 28:00Speaker 4: forty four hundred, Like to me, again, it's that awkward
- 28:03Speaker 4: price where you probably have to do something pretty real
- 28:07Speaker 4: to be there, and I just I don't know, like
- 28:09Speaker 4: maybe he does and if he does, yeah whatever, Like
- 28:12Speaker 4: I'm not going to be high on p Ryan. And
- 28:14Speaker 4: then the Caleb what's the Caleb Johnson deal? This is
- 28:17Speaker 4: where he's from or something.
- 28:18Speaker 1: It's a high school thing something.
- 28:20Speaker 3: I mean, the chat was saying, it's, you know, I
- 28:22Speaker 3: don't know, we'll see what ends up happening. But the
- 28:24Speaker 3: plus six hundred to score at anytime touchdown, some said
- 28:26Speaker 3: he could be inactive does look like there's some articles
- 28:29Speaker 3: and some beat writers and stuff talking about him coming
- 28:31Speaker 3: back for the homecoming.
- 28:32Speaker 4: Game and seeing that they think they could sure, okay,
- 28:36Speaker 4: yeah I'm out on that.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Then no, thanks could be anything major.
- 28:39Speaker 5: With that super low on Again, most people aren't playing
- 28:42Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty. The thing about p Ryan Quick
- 28:44Speaker 5: is like we have Washington, we have fans, we have
- 28:49Speaker 5: John new Smith, like all of them are cheaper, who
- 28:51Speaker 5: projects better and will definitely be higher own. So he's
- 28:55Speaker 5: like a pivot I guess in that range, but build accordingly.
- 28:57Speaker 5: It's more so if they're trailing and stuff. He's out
- 29:00Speaker 5: there for pass catching work.
- 29:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, uh yeah, I'm not going to be
- 29:05Speaker 4: I'm not too excited about that play, but I am
- 29:06Speaker 4: excited about game I'll think Game All is a great
- 29:08Speaker 4: play and I think I won''t be surprised if you know,
- 29:11Speaker 4: what are what are we showing for ownership on that
- 29:13Speaker 4: Let's see we got well. Yeah, I think that's probably
- 29:19Speaker 4: where it's at, like right around twenty. And I think
- 29:23Speaker 4: he could he could have big gamers. I really, I
- 29:25Speaker 4: really like Game well and Jena Morning. I'm not I'm
- 29:30Speaker 4: not gonna actively build it out, but like in my
- 29:33Speaker 4: one fifty, I wouldn't. I'm not opposed to playing them
- 29:37Speaker 4: in the same line up. I mean, the guy went
- 29:38Speaker 4: six for you know, six catches in his last two games,
- 29:41Speaker 4: so I'm not opposed to playing him and more and together. Again.
- 29:44Speaker 4: If I'm building hand building teams, I'm never doing it.
- 29:47Speaker 4: But like in the one fifty, I'd be fine if
- 29:50Speaker 4: some of that popped in there.
- 29:51Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to the other stuff in a second.
- 29:54Speaker 3: The chats starting to hit on it, but we'll see
- 29:56Speaker 3: if it comes around or now. But yeah, I like
- 29:58Speaker 3: the setup that you have there. Do you want to
- 29:59Speaker 3: stay us off on wide receiver hoop and moved to that?
- 30:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of viable options just because
- 30:06Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh situation where they're down, you know, a
- 30:09Speaker 4: couple of wide receivers, so obviously you know the main
- 30:13Speaker 4: three are the clear you know, raw projection point guys.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, I think he's phenomenal in all format, DK Metcalf,
- 30:21Speaker 4: I love DK tonight. T Higgins fine, you know, probably
- 30:26Speaker 4: lower on than the those other two for sure, and
- 30:30Speaker 4: it could be T Higgins, like title said, he's getting
- 30:32Speaker 4: a lot of looks deep hasn't really converted. I think
- 30:36Speaker 4: he's a fine option. After that, it gets somewhat ugly
- 30:40Speaker 4: but super cheap, like it's it's ugly stuff. But these
- 30:43Speaker 4: guys are just very very cheap Yosi Vosh four targets
- 30:47Speaker 4: last week, I mean, did nothing with them, but twenty
- 30:50Speaker 4: eight hundred gonna be on the field. I think he
- 30:53Speaker 4: is fine. You got you know, just random cheap dudes.
- 30:57Speaker 4: But the problem with after Yosi Bosh, like these guys
- 30:59Speaker 4: are thinking are somewhat playable, but we have a lot
- 31:02Speaker 4: of tight ends who I just feel much better about
- 31:05Speaker 4: for cheap. I will say that, like, you start looking
- 31:08Speaker 4: at some of these names. Scotty Miller for a thousand,
- 31:12Speaker 4: like risky play probably gets zero but has a chance
- 31:15Speaker 4: to be on the field. This Roman Wilson guy for
- 31:18Speaker 4: twelve hundred probably gets zero but will be on the field,
- 31:22Speaker 4: and you know he's gonna have some opportunities. Ben Skronick
- 31:25Speaker 4: probably gets zero, but he's gonna be on the field
- 31:28Speaker 4: and has some opportunities. So like, all three of those
- 31:30Speaker 4: guys are playable. I wouldn't go crazy with any of them,
- 31:33Speaker 4: wouldn't go way overweight. If I'm handbuilding, I'm probably choosing
- 31:36Speaker 4: the tight ends over them. But if you're playing a
- 31:39Speaker 4: lot of teams, I think you can get exposure to
- 31:42Speaker 4: all three Scotty Miller, Wilson and Scronick one thousand, twelve
- 31:47Speaker 4: hundred and two underbucks like doesn't do anything for your lineups.
- 31:52Speaker 4: And that's probably it. I mean, I think it's those
- 31:55Speaker 4: top three Chase Metcalf, Higgins, Gap Yo Gap, all those
- 32:01Speaker 4: other cheap dudes.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Yeah, he sum that up right. I think the interesting
- 32:05Speaker 3: part is more like and we'll get to tight end later.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Obviously you know, ownership looking like you know, it's off
- 32:09Speaker 3: a little bit. We'll see if it can be bumped
- 32:11Speaker 3: up even further. But I think from that perspective, the
- 32:13Speaker 3: Yoshivas thing is the one that stands up most because
- 32:15Speaker 3: he's right there. The same price as Fant again not
- 32:18Speaker 3: exact same price, I should say, same price, but a very
- 32:20Speaker 3: similar price.
- 32:20Speaker 1: To f to Washington, to John U too.
- 32:24Speaker 3: However, you're looking at it if it's p ryme whatever
- 32:26Speaker 3: it is there, and it's like Puron has the ownership,
- 32:27Speaker 3: but the others definitely do. So.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I actually think Yoshi vas outside of.
- 32:31Speaker 3: The Yesterday was his Birthday narrative and all the other stuff,
- 32:35Speaker 3: it's more of just he's actually involved. He's out there,
- 32:38Speaker 3: he's twenty eight hundred. Maybe he steams a little bit
- 32:40Speaker 3: as well. But for me, titled that's the spot I'm
- 32:43Speaker 3: looking at outside the obvious big three which we already know.
- 32:45Speaker 3: And to me that like I said, the way that
- 32:46Speaker 3: we play them differently is mostly for me and Captain
- 32:50Speaker 3: where I am going to be looking at some two fours,
- 32:53Speaker 3: you know, some three threes that have one of those
- 32:55Speaker 3: guys up top, and then get unique in the flex
- 32:57Speaker 3: or just leave the money.
- 32:58Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of oppert for that
- 33:00Speaker 1: on this slate.
- 33:01Speaker 3: But what do you think here with the wide receivers
- 33:03Speaker 3: and in other ways is to build with them?
- 33:05Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing to say with the top three obviously good plays.
- 33:07Speaker 5: I'm totally in on Yoshi Vas. I mean, my friends
- 33:10Speaker 5: will make fun of me. I like Yoshi Vas a
- 33:12Speaker 5: lot on small slates. He's on the field when he
- 33:14Speaker 5: had burrow and stuff, he was always low owned. He's
- 33:17Speaker 5: an athletic guy. Yeah, but man four targets. I think
- 33:21Speaker 5: he dropped like three or four like it was, and
- 33:23Speaker 5: there were clear drops. It was really bad. But without
- 33:26Speaker 5: Mike Aesku's hurt, without Tanner Hudson, who's hurt? Like I
- 33:30Speaker 5: just don't think the Bengals want to run too many
- 33:32Speaker 5: two tight end sets with sample and fans, And if
- 33:35Speaker 5: they don't, that means a lot eleven personnel And it's
- 33:37Speaker 5: clear Yoshivas will be on the field almost every play.
- 33:40Speaker 5: If that's the case, a receiver at twenty eight hundred
- 33:43Speaker 5: in what's expected to be a trailing game script like it,
- 33:46Speaker 5: I'm definitely playing Yoshi Vas. I don't know, Captain. Maybe
- 33:50Speaker 5: if I had a sprinkle I got one. I think
- 33:52Speaker 5: I'm playing seventy five in the twenty. If I get
- 33:54Speaker 5: a sprinkle, I might not exit. I'm not going to
- 33:56Speaker 5: advocate for it though. Steeler side, Yeah, I mean they'll
- 34:00Speaker 5: run a lot more twelve personnel. They got plenty of
- 34:02Speaker 5: guys that we'll get to him. We get tight end position,
- 34:05Speaker 5: friar Mouth, Washington, John new Smith, No, Kelvin Austin though,
- 34:09Speaker 5: so it's DK Metcalf and then it's just a rotation
- 34:12Speaker 5: of these scrubs. Like we know it's Scotty Miller, I don't.
- 34:15Speaker 5: He doesn't even have a prop or receiving yards prop
- 34:18Speaker 5: on DK, whereas Roman Wilson's eight and a half. I'm
- 34:22Speaker 5: gonna just, I guess, embrace some Roman Wilson. We have
- 34:24Speaker 5: him super low on what four point eight eight percent
- 34:27Speaker 5: if you have ten percent year double Like before the year,
- 34:31Speaker 5: Rogers was hyping this dude up like he really liked
- 34:34Speaker 5: what he saw in Roman Wilson. I'm gonna hope that
- 34:37Speaker 5: he gets more snaps and scornic than Scotty Miller. Again,
- 34:40Speaker 5: I just if someone's on the winner, I want some upside.
- 34:43Speaker 5: I think Roman Wilson of those group of guys has
- 34:45Speaker 5: the most upside there, So again he's four percent on
- 34:48Speaker 5: you have ten to eleven, you're double the field. That's
- 34:51Speaker 5: really all I got. I mean, the tight end running
- 34:53Speaker 5: back room is a lot stronger than receiving room outside
- 34:56Speaker 5: of those top three guys.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Yeah, the funny, it's like an interesting thing though.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Tonight's while the dynamic of the slate, and I always
- 35:02Speaker 3: say it when I love it, This is definitely what
- 35:03Speaker 3: I love is that, like you guys are both right
- 35:06Speaker 3: when you say, like the tight ends more interesting than
- 35:09Speaker 3: these backup wide receivers of any kind. But it's also
- 35:11Speaker 3: like there isn't people just think they know at tight end,
- 35:14Speaker 3: it's you still got to run that wheel five times
- 35:16Speaker 3: and hope to land on the right spot, and that's
- 35:18Speaker 3: why you have a portfolio. I know somebody earlier, I
- 35:20Speaker 3: think it was our man Steven Nighbors shout out to
- 35:22Speaker 3: him always in here supporting and appreciate that. But I
- 35:24Speaker 3: think he said, man, I gotta play light tonight because
- 35:26Speaker 3: there's just so much going on and if he's not
- 35:29Speaker 3: playing a bunch of lineups, he's feeling a little bit uncomfortable.
- 35:32Speaker 3: And that's perfectly fine because I think that's why right
- 35:34Speaker 3: you're seeing even look at the stone, look at the
- 35:36Speaker 3: cash considerations, look at the high upsides, all the GPP selections, Like,
- 35:40Speaker 3: there's just so many ways that you could go.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see.
- 35:44Speaker 3: Two two different gifts in the discord tonight, and it's
- 35:47Speaker 3: gonna be Yoshi smash Bang, and it's gonna be Scotty
- 35:51Speaker 3: doesn't know because I think that's the guy, Like it's
- 35:53Speaker 3: four and seven percent.
- 35:54Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some Roman Wilson.
- 35:56Speaker 3: I like your take of like Rogers bringing up at
- 35:58Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, it pops up at nowhere.
- 36:00Speaker 3: This is the type of slate to take a shot
- 36:02Speaker 3: on that, like, this is where it gets you different,
- 36:04Speaker 3: this is where it can win you all the money.
- 36:05Speaker 3: We've seen a ton of unique shippers to start the
- 36:09Speaker 3: season and show Down. That's why we love this game
- 36:11Speaker 3: still and why we talk about edge still exists. It's
- 36:13Speaker 3: people got us, like so many people by the way,
- 36:15Speaker 3: and it's not to be rude, it's just to be factual.
- 36:17Speaker 3: People send out like ah, it was just two guys
- 36:19Speaker 3: away in Showdown like two v two. I'm like, buddy,
- 36:22Speaker 3: there is six spots and there's people with zero v
- 36:24Speaker 3: Zeros who had the captain flip wrong, Like you're not close.
- 36:28Speaker 4: It's everybody's everybody's two for two.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Everybody's two v two.
- 36:32Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So it's like it's good to
- 36:35Speaker 3: check in on. I always say your progress is your
- 36:37Speaker 3: process like that, that's part of it. Like if you
- 36:39Speaker 3: if you've got your progress coming along, you stick with
- 36:41Speaker 3: the process and you keep it roll until it happens.
- 36:43Speaker 3: But in this case, that's one thing I'll always call
- 36:45Speaker 3: out and showdown. It's like a lot of people think
- 36:47Speaker 3: they're close and they're not really that close.
- 36:49Speaker 1: So it's like a situation.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Again where you know, you get you want to have
- 36:53Speaker 3: more lineups, you got enough action on it. I think
- 36:55Speaker 3: Scotty Roman, those guys could be in the mix tonight,
- 36:58Speaker 3: So I like that. I mean, it's pretty odd, it's DK.
- 37:01Speaker 3: But I think the thing about the Steelers side and
- 37:03Speaker 3: title we can segue that into the tight end position
- 37:06Speaker 3: is people are way more comfortable with John Whu and
- 37:09Speaker 3: definitely even Washington than they are with Scotti or Roman
- 37:13Speaker 3: because they don't know. But that was my previous point
- 37:15Speaker 3: of like people the tight ends way good better tonight
- 37:18Speaker 3: probably is, but there's five of them to pick from,
- 37:20Speaker 3: and and here as three at least four of them
- 37:23Speaker 3: versus nobody really wants Scotty and Roman and they're on
- 37:25Speaker 3: the same team, same receiving corps as John Whu and Darnell.
- 37:30Speaker 3: And I know you mentioned like with Darnell's ownership, maybe
- 37:32Speaker 3: it could be even.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Higher, right, Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's just
- 37:35Speaker 5: like he led the tight end room in snaps last week.
- 37:38Speaker 5: He's box score watching, He's fine, like he's a big
- 37:41Speaker 5: option down below, He's a he's a big option in
- 37:45Speaker 5: the red zone. So but like you're saying, I mean,
- 37:47Speaker 5: it's more comfortable playing John new darn Now these guys,
- 37:50Speaker 5: they're gonna be on the field more. But it's also
- 37:53Speaker 5: you're way more likely to be duped if they do
- 37:55Speaker 5: get there. The ownership I think is a good amount higher.
- 37:58Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think Darnald's a great play
- 38:00Speaker 5: for the price. Definitely in cash consideration John Hu, he's
- 38:03Speaker 5: an athletic tight end. Again, if you're talking about Scotty Miller,
- 38:06Speaker 5: Ben Skronik and Roman Wilson as receiver too, like John
- 38:10Speaker 5: new Smith might as well just be up there is
- 38:12Speaker 5: the number two option. We saw him in Miami, Like
- 38:15Speaker 5: he can catch the ball, turn up field and make
- 38:17Speaker 5: a play. Does he seem a little He doesn't even
- 38:19Speaker 5: seem overpriced. I like him four K quite a bit.
- 38:22Speaker 5: I keep seeing our man Derek talk about Noah Fant
- 38:26Speaker 5: and I agree. So there's two tight ends. Kaseeki got
- 38:28Speaker 5: hurt earlier in that Packers game. Then Tanner Hudson got
- 38:31Speaker 5: a concussion, so they're looking at Noah Fan Drew Sample
- 38:35Speaker 5: the definition of a blocking tight end, and then I
- 38:37Speaker 5: don't know who, some random other guy like Noah Fense
- 38:40Speaker 5: the clear pass catcher for the Bengals that's going to
- 38:43Speaker 5: be out there. And that's why I like Yoshibas quite
- 38:45Speaker 5: a bit, because I think they're going to be forced
- 38:47Speaker 5: to run more eleven personnel than they might want to.
- 38:50Speaker 5: But the clear tight ends Fan, John new Smith, Darnell
- 38:53Speaker 5: at the ownership Like, I'm good with all three of them.
- 38:56Speaker 5: You can definitely play Darnell and John who together they'll
- 38:58Speaker 5: be on the field, play Noah Fan. You can play
- 39:01Speaker 5: all three of them in lineups after that. Again, if
- 39:04Speaker 5: you're playing a bunch of teams Friar and Moose Sample sure,
- 39:07Speaker 5: but I think yeah, sample six hundred bucks. Fried Moose
- 39:11Speaker 5: seems over priced at three K. It'll keep his ownership down.
- 39:13Speaker 5: I'd be lying if I was excited about him. But
- 39:15Speaker 5: one touchdown from either of them in this game could
- 39:18Speaker 5: could be enough for optimal. So guys that are gonna
- 39:20Speaker 5: be on the field that are cheap, it'd be a shape.
- 39:23Speaker 5: It'd be a mistake probably to x them out if
- 39:25Speaker 5: you're playing a lot of teams. If you're only playing
- 39:27Speaker 5: five or last year, you don't got to get there.
- 39:29Speaker 4: Probably.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's come up a lot, and I would
- 39:33Speaker 3: I did want to address this because I definitely think
- 39:34Speaker 3: this is possible as well on a slate like this,
- 39:36Speaker 3: where depends on how the game goes, of course, and
- 39:39Speaker 3: it's harder when you have these top end wide receivers
- 39:42Speaker 3: up top.
- 39:42Speaker 1: But we've definitely seen it happen.
- 39:44Speaker 3: It feels like, to be honest, I don't have full
- 39:46Speaker 3: numbers on this one, and I would prefer to, but
- 39:48Speaker 3: it feels like Jets and Bronco. It's like Russell Wilson
- 39:53Speaker 3: when he was with the Broncos. It's it's Aaron Rodgers
- 39:55Speaker 3: when he's with the Jets. Like you'd see like a
- 39:57Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson captain. No Rogers needed right, same type of
- 40:01Speaker 3: set up here, so maybe you could see that. I
- 40:03Speaker 3: definitely think it's a possibility, but it's tough to say.
- 40:06Speaker 1: What do you think about it?
- 40:08Speaker 4: Yeah, just because there's so many different guys they can
- 40:12Speaker 4: throw the football to and they could really spread it out.
- 40:15Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm fine with it. In regards to the
- 40:18Speaker 4: tight end, I don't have much else to add on
- 40:22Speaker 4: to what title said. I think it's a strong position.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I think, you know, Darnell Washington at two thousand is
- 40:29Speaker 4: a very good play. I mean, what's the one thing
- 40:31Speaker 4: we know about Aaron Rodgers over the years. When he
- 40:33Speaker 4: starts to develop something with guys like he'll keep going
- 40:37Speaker 4: to it. And that's why I like the game Wall
- 40:38Speaker 4: stuff today. That's why I like this Darnell Washington stuff today.
- 40:42Speaker 4: Johnny Smith is fine. Noah Fant at thirty six hundred,
- 40:47Speaker 4: I think is totally fine. I know our guy Derek
- 40:49Speaker 4: and the Chad has been talking about it. Yeah, I'm
- 40:52Speaker 4: good with Fan. I mean, this isn't just some random
- 40:55Speaker 4: tight end like He's had success in this league, so
- 40:58Speaker 4: I'm in with him. Firemouth, I mean a little more risky,
- 41:02Speaker 4: but gonna have substantially lower ownership than the other guys.
- 41:06Speaker 4: He'll be in the pool. Drew Sample six hundred, and like,
- 41:09Speaker 4: you know, is it a slate where we need somebody
- 41:11Speaker 4: in the hundreds. Could be he's six hundred, he's gonna
- 41:14Speaker 4: be on the field. Fine with that, But those those
- 41:17Speaker 4: top three just seem very very strong to me. Smith
- 41:20Speaker 4: and Washington.
- 41:22Speaker 1: How many tight ends are too many in your lineup tonight?
- 41:24Speaker 1: Because we keep talking.
- 41:25Speaker 3: About it being potentially again we're not saying a stand here,
- 41:28Speaker 3: we're saying, but if it was a lower scoring game
- 41:30Speaker 3: Division AFC North Classic Division battle type, like, let's say
- 41:33Speaker 3: that happens, how many tight ends.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Could you see in there?
- 41:35Speaker 5: I could see three. I think four is probably too many,
- 41:38Speaker 5: but especially with Sample at six hundred bucks, like there's
- 41:41Speaker 5: no one cheaper that's even viable. Oh, actually, I take
- 41:44Speaker 5: that back, spronis two hundred. But I think John New
- 41:47Speaker 5: like John who's gonna be on the field with Washington
- 41:50Speaker 5: and two tight end sets both have touched on upside.
- 41:52Speaker 5: And then you've got Noah fan Like I think if
- 41:54Speaker 5: I played all three, I'd be fine, Or you play
- 41:56Speaker 5: sample instead of one of them. Not my favorite build
- 41:59Speaker 5: but if.
- 42:00Speaker 3: You're gonna have a one B one tonight title, they
- 42:02Speaker 3: got the tight end wrong.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Like if I just played this tight end instead, how
- 42:06Speaker 1: many gonna have that?
- 42:07Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 42:07Speaker 5: I mean if you're saying one B one is the
- 42:08Speaker 5: first sport like baseball or like main slate NFL, like, yeah,
- 42:12Speaker 5: you were really close, that's tough. Like Showdown, everyone's one
- 42:16Speaker 5: v ones away and Showdown?
- 42:17Speaker 1: Yeah, what about this one hoop.
- 42:21Speaker 4: Salary?
- 42:22Speaker 1: To let or just let it go at the default
- 42:24Speaker 1: forty five? What do you think on a slate like this.
- 42:26Speaker 4: Certain slates, I don't know. For Showdown, I'm fine letting
- 42:30Speaker 4: it go. I mean seems like, I mean, you can
- 42:33Speaker 4: get some some some lineups that leave a ton of
- 42:35Speaker 4: salary on the table, and I think tonight's one of those.
- 42:37Speaker 4: So like Tonight's definitely one of those we're leaving a
- 42:40Speaker 4: ton can be the rock to go. So I mean,
- 42:43Speaker 4: for for me personally, I'm good letting it run.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what do you think, Ted, I'll that
- 42:48Speaker 1: you roll first with them.
- 42:49Speaker 3: What's your take on this and kind of compared to tonight,
- 42:51Speaker 3: because I think that's one of the conversations as well.
- 42:53Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I I usually lower and not like if
- 42:56Speaker 5: I get lower teams, like I look at what those
- 42:58Speaker 5: those look like. But Yoshi Boss at two point ak,
- 43:01Speaker 5: Chase Brown at ak right there, that's fifty two hundred.
- 43:04Speaker 5: I mean, is it likely that happens?
- 43:06Speaker 1: No?
- 43:07Speaker 4: But is it?
- 43:07Speaker 5: Would it be absolutely shocking if Yoshi vas outscored Chase
- 43:10Speaker 5: Brown today. No, So I when just looking at something
- 43:14Speaker 5: like that, if I can see it happening, and that's
- 43:16Speaker 5: right there, that'd be lower than forty five K. So
- 43:18Speaker 5: I always lower it because the lower the salary usually
- 43:21Speaker 5: the less of the dupes. But I look at those
- 43:23Speaker 5: teams like I want them to make some sense. I
- 43:26Speaker 5: just don't want a sample p RYD John when I
- 43:29Speaker 5: could upgrade to all these other guys, like, I think
- 43:31Speaker 5: that's bad.
- 43:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a slate where you can
- 43:34Speaker 3: easily leave ten K. And again, are you really going
- 43:36Speaker 3: to set it up for that or force it?
- 43:38Speaker 1: Probably not.
- 43:38Speaker 3: I'm just saying there's definitely gonna be when you look
- 43:40Speaker 3: at some of these unique max entry guys out there
- 43:43Speaker 3: that you'll see tonight, there's there's definitely some validity tonight
- 43:45Speaker 3: to like whatever you get up to forty eight to
- 43:48Speaker 3: five and just stop, like it's it's too rega and
- 43:51Speaker 3: you'll you'll block yourself out of potential winners because way
- 43:54Speaker 3: more people play those types of lineups if they get
- 43:56Speaker 3: there and whatever type of game it is.
- 43:57Speaker 1: But just to Title's point, I mean.
- 44:00Speaker 3: You've seen slates where Dotson is needed over aj Brown.
- 44:04Speaker 3: What was that nine grand or something eight grand? Well,
- 44:07Speaker 3: there you go again. I highly doubt it tonight. And
- 44:09Speaker 3: it's the odds are not in your favor. But if
- 44:12Speaker 3: Scotty Miller out does Metcalf somehow from one big grab
- 44:15Speaker 3: and Metcalf only has a couple of catches and the
- 44:16Speaker 3: other say.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Anything can happen. So I think just thinking about that
- 44:20Speaker 1: when you're building, it's.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Just more of like I'm not looking to go forty
- 44:23Speaker 3: nine to nine and fifty k on all my lineups,
- 44:25Speaker 3: Like that's just not gonna happen. And show now that's
- 44:27Speaker 3: part of the edge, no matter what anyone else tells you, Like,
- 44:30Speaker 3: that's part of it. It's like if you're trying to
- 44:31Speaker 3: actually win money at Showdown long term and you're playing
- 44:34Speaker 3: in these lottery style tournaments.
- 44:36Speaker 1: That's a prime example.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Even w Hoop, I think this is one too, Like
- 44:40Speaker 3: Showdown is typically the optimal is getting there. Like it's
- 44:43Speaker 3: just so often that we will have the optimal. There's
- 44:45Speaker 3: a few times we've seen that there's oh wow, then
- 44:47Speaker 3: that wasn't even the optimal. Like that happens. But like
- 44:50Speaker 3: some people struggle to with contest selection. They're like, oh,
- 44:53Speaker 3: I'm in a one hundred man satellite tonight and I'm
- 44:55Speaker 3: in the lottery.
- 44:56Speaker 1: What should I do?
- 44:57Speaker 3: Well, it's like you need the nuts to win anything tonight,
- 44:59Speaker 3: Like it's people just have the nuts are very close
- 45:02Speaker 3: to it. Even in the biggest tournaments, we'll see like tonight,
- 45:05Speaker 3: I think there's a four to forty four the general
- 45:07Speaker 3: or whatever they call it, decent prize pool and structure
- 45:10Speaker 3: up top, but I think it's like what usually like
- 45:13Speaker 3: five to seven points, if not all the way there
- 45:15Speaker 3: where where it's like almost the same thing.
- 45:17Speaker 1: So you got to have the best lineup no matter what.
- 45:19Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, definitely, especially because I mean you're talking leaven
- 45:22Speaker 5: that four forty four. I'm gonna look right now, like
- 45:24Speaker 5: what the max entrance is? What thirty five? Like you'll
- 45:27Speaker 5: plenty of people are not plenty, but there's gonna be
- 45:29Speaker 5: people putting thirty five out there, and once you keep
- 45:31Speaker 5: adding that up. It's you're a lot more likely someone's
- 45:34Speaker 5: more likely to fall on that one.
- 45:36Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, All right, Hoop, I'll go to you the
- 45:38Speaker 3: kickers and these probably again sticking with the theme, it
- 45:41Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's right.
- 45:42Speaker 1: This game could cry like we've seen division teams.
- 45:44Speaker 3: Just face off, especially about like we'll see it the
- 45:47Speaker 3: headline now they set the clock back. It's Rogers and
- 45:49Speaker 3: Flacco old school style, like Flacco's the lead, Rogers is
- 45:53Speaker 3: his old sell look at this back and forth.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Who knows how the shit goes.
- 45:56Speaker 3: But you know that's the point while we're talking through
- 45:58Speaker 3: it from a DFS and a slate personerspective. But the
- 46:01Speaker 3: chat's been talking about like kickers and defenses at captain tonight,
- 46:05Speaker 3: how do you.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Feel about that? And then just that position as a whole.
- 46:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'll start with defense because usually I
- 46:11Speaker 4: have a pretty boring take on if someone posted, oh
- 46:15Speaker 4: it's Kenny. Yeah, big difference offensive line versus defensive line.
- 46:19Speaker 4: I mean it's a huge mismatch. I mean the Bengals
- 46:21Speaker 4: offensive line is terrible, Steelers defensive line is good. I
- 46:25Speaker 4: mean you don't even need to be a good defensive
- 46:27Speaker 4: line to get through the Bengals offensive line. So I
- 46:30Speaker 4: think there is some merit to the Steelers defense tonight.
- 46:34Speaker 4: I probably won't be playing in the captain, but fifty
- 46:37Speaker 4: eight hundred they could rack up a lot of sacks.
- 46:41Speaker 4: And they are a little more expensive, which I do
- 46:43Speaker 4: like to see because it should keep the ownership in
- 46:45Speaker 4: check a little bit. They're more expensive than the kickers,
- 46:48Speaker 4: so I again, it's very rare where I go overweight
- 46:52Speaker 4: on the defenses. The defense is always over owned, even
- 46:55Speaker 4: when you think they're going to be not over owned,
- 46:57Speaker 4: they're always owned higher than one's really anticipating. So I
- 47:01Speaker 4: do think the Steelers defense is higher on them or thinking.
- 47:05Speaker 4: But I think it's a really good spot. So I
- 47:07Speaker 4: want at least some and then good with both kickers.
- 47:10Speaker 4: I mean, the one thing we know about the Steelers,
- 47:12Speaker 4: they'll they'll take their field goals, man, they will take
- 47:14Speaker 4: their field goals till the day they die. Boswell's fifty four,
- 47:18Speaker 4: I think he's a really good play, and then McPherson
- 47:20Speaker 4: at five K is fine, So i'd rank it Boswell
- 47:26Speaker 4: Steelers D, then McPherson and then not much interest, not
- 47:30Speaker 4: a ton of interest, I guess in the Bengals defense,
- 47:33Speaker 4: I wouldn't be opposed to playing some, but I would
- 47:35Speaker 4: say a little more interest in defense than I typically have.
- 47:38Speaker 4: I do think the Steelers D is in a good spot.
- 47:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's how people be looking at it
- 47:43Speaker 3: if they're going their title.
- 47:44Speaker 1: But McPherson's coming.
- 47:47Speaker 3: In a little bit under the Boswell side because people
- 47:49Speaker 3: just assume that they're going to be up and everything.
- 47:51Speaker 3: But I could definitely see home kicker and McPherson for
- 47:54Speaker 3: the leg that he has still be able to come
- 47:56Speaker 3: through here and make it happen. So what's your thoughts
- 47:58Speaker 3: on kickers and d And then I'm just circle back
- 48:00Speaker 3: to the captain conversation for two seconds as well.
- 48:02Speaker 5: Yeah, I did totally. I mean, both offenses can stall
- 48:06Speaker 5: out in the red zone, they'll take their points. I mean,
- 48:08Speaker 5: and both of these quarterbacks can't move at all their statues,
- 48:11Speaker 5: so there's plenty of sack upside on both sides. Like
- 48:14Speaker 5: I'll play the Bengals at ten percent. I mean, I
- 48:17Speaker 5: love my guy Rogers, but the dude just can't move
- 48:19Speaker 5: at the end of the day, and he'll just shell
- 48:22Speaker 5: up and protect the ball and take a sack. I mean,
- 48:24Speaker 5: Both these teams have five plus sack upside and a
- 48:27Speaker 5: lot of that. If it's third and seven clear passing
- 48:30Speaker 5: dropback situations and they take a sack, there goes the
- 48:33Speaker 5: field goal unit for a forty five yard or fifty
- 48:36Speaker 5: yard or whatever. So I like all four of them
- 48:38Speaker 5: for sure. Yeah, hoop what you always got a good
- 48:42Speaker 5: eye on it. Steelers defense. They did good pricing it up.
- 48:45Speaker 5: People still will click that though, what fifty eight hundred?
- 48:47Speaker 5: What are we talking in the flex?
- 48:49Speaker 4: I think it's probably.
- 48:53Speaker 5: Like I like where we have it at twenty four,
- 48:55Speaker 5: but it's so hard to predict.
- 48:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet probably I would say between I mean
- 49:00Speaker 4: twenty five and thirty somewhere in there, probably closer to
- 49:02Speaker 4: the thirty side of things. And I have been I
- 49:05Speaker 4: thank you. I appreciate that because I do pride myself
- 49:07Speaker 4: on that I've been pretty good at nailing these these
- 49:10Speaker 4: defensive ownership things. And I'd say, I'll say twenty eight.
- 49:15Speaker 4: I think it gets to twenty eight, and.
- 49:17Speaker 5: They're my least favorite of the four for sure.
- 49:19Speaker 4: Then yeah, I'll tak I think it's got to be
- 49:22Speaker 4: between twenty five and thirty, and I think probably closer thirty.
- 49:26Speaker 4: So I'll say twenty eight.
- 49:27Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that makes sense. I mean it's fifty eight hundred,
- 49:29Speaker 5: Like there's some real players in that range and a
- 49:31Speaker 5: lot for cheaper. You can go Steelers Defense, drop down
- 49:34Speaker 5: the John U you just saved eighteen hundred right there,
- 49:37Speaker 5: easily can be outscored.
- 49:38Speaker 4: You are the reason I've been saying about this about
- 49:41Speaker 4: the defense for years, and I stick to it. And
- 49:43Speaker 4: it's really weird, but I think it is true. Like
- 49:47Speaker 4: people starting to see their thing up top one hundred percent,
- 49:50Speaker 4: Like I honestly believe in that. I really if people
- 49:53Speaker 4: are deciding between two spots and they say, oh, well,
- 49:56Speaker 4: I'll play the defense, because I know when I open
- 49:57Speaker 4: up that app I'm going to be in the green
- 50:00Speaker 4: and making money. I swear to God. There's like two
- 50:02Speaker 4: I don't swear to God, but like there's two to
- 50:04Speaker 4: three percent of people that will do that. I think
- 50:06Speaker 4: it's always increased for that reason.
- 50:08Speaker 3: It's the Thursday We're learning this in the Survivor pools.
- 50:11Speaker 3: It's the Thursday night thing, right. The game always has
- 50:14Speaker 3: more ownership than you.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Think they're gonna be, Like what the hell?
- 50:16Speaker 3: People just want to give me my win now or
- 50:18Speaker 3: get me out of this tournament one of the other
- 50:20Speaker 3: I think I'm getting it tonight, so give me it.
- 50:22Speaker 1: That's what happened.
- 50:23Speaker 5: People that's stacked the first fight in mn A get
- 50:25Speaker 5: their screenshot right.
- 50:26Speaker 4: Yes, yes, something bad.
- 50:29Speaker 1: They don't even have.
- 50:30Speaker 5: Oh that's really bad for sure.
- 50:32Speaker 1: It's like you should not play like you're terrible. But
- 50:35Speaker 1: the other ones at least have some validity.
- 50:36Speaker 3: It's just sure they don't have value to hoops point,
- 50:39Speaker 3: you're probably giving it away. But speaking of hoop and
- 50:41Speaker 3: taking pride in himself and different things that he does well,
- 50:44Speaker 3: the head to Head six and oh start to the
- 50:46Speaker 3: Ship of Games first ever NFL Ship of Games over
- 50:49Speaker 3: at ship at nation dot com. You guys can still
- 50:51Speaker 3: get in the games. Go to ship at nation dot com.
- 50:54Speaker 3: You can start with code ship nineteen and then build
- 50:56Speaker 3: your account up from there whatever you want to add on.
- 50:59Speaker 3: But Hoopster at the winner this week number twenty one,
- 51:03Speaker 3: which also could be Lucky Little Blackjack Action week seven
- 51:06Speaker 3: twenty one, Like this could be the thing. The winner
- 51:09Speaker 3: is number twenty one of fifty. Dustin Morehead.
- 51:17Speaker 4: Oh that is an intimidating last last name Morehead.
- 51:20Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like someone's getting dusted. I don't know if
- 51:23Speaker 5: it's you or him, but someone.
- 51:25Speaker 1: Dusted by Dustin morehead there you go.
- 51:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean I wish I had more
- 51:30Speaker 4: to say, but it's been kind of boring. I mean,
- 51:31Speaker 4: six and zero just continue to march on undefeated. I
- 51:35Speaker 4: got to take my weekly shot at Naid's who just
- 51:38Speaker 4: got the start it on a horrible path for everyone
- 51:41Speaker 4: subbing in and getting smoked by a lineup that took
- 51:44Speaker 4: like fifteen seconds to build, and just kind of where
- 51:47Speaker 4: we're at. I mean, we set over under at nine
- 51:49Speaker 4: and a half. Now it's got to be twelve, twelve
- 51:52Speaker 4: and a half. I mean, hopefully Dustin brings something to
- 51:55Speaker 4: the table. I mean, that's all I can hope for
- 51:56Speaker 4: at this point.
- 51:57Speaker 3: Were we were boosting your ego on your defense percentages
- 52:01Speaker 3: and your head to head battle, but Dustin has more head.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Than you, so he's I mean, you've got a big
- 52:05Speaker 1: head right now, but he might have more.
- 52:07Speaker 3: The first ever l for Hoopster with a little six
- 52:10Speaker 3: and one special. We will have number twenty two coming
- 52:13Speaker 3: up next with the share Ship. But before we get
- 52:16Speaker 3: to that, anything on FanDuel that you're looking at hoops
- 52:19Speaker 3: or anything over on the FanDuel Actually, well you're looking
- 52:21Speaker 3: at for two seconds. I want to add one point
- 52:23Speaker 3: that I just didn't want to miss another thing tonight.
- 52:25Speaker 3: If you are putting these captains with the kickers or
- 52:29Speaker 3: the defenses, it's free on the other side. Because here's what.
- 52:33Speaker 3: Let me explain this before I say it's free. What
- 52:35Speaker 3: you're gonna do is, I know you're gonna go to
- 52:37Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh side, which makes more sense.
- 52:38Speaker 1: I get that. But what you're gonna do is then
- 52:40Speaker 1: it's gonna.
- 52:41Speaker 3: Be free to put Jamar Chase in And I get that,
- 52:44Speaker 3: But that's where I'm saying, like, you could just leave it.
- 52:46Speaker 3: And it's like, if they're getting crushed, who's to say
- 52:48Speaker 3: that Chase is even that. Like again, you'll think, oh,
- 52:50Speaker 3: they're gonna throw them the ball more. It may not
- 52:51Speaker 3: be working out. That's why they're getting crushed. So now
- 52:55Speaker 3: the possibility that a Chase Brown or or a T.
- 52:58Speaker 3: Higgins or something like that comes through, but you won't
- 53:01Speaker 3: You won't be able to do it because you.
- 53:02Speaker 1: Can't leave the money on the table. So just remember
- 53:05Speaker 1: that when you're building that stuff out.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Again, an optimizer can help you with that, but if not,
- 53:08Speaker 3: just think about that when you're building. Just because Jamar
- 53:10Speaker 3: Chase fits, there's definitely a world tonight where T. Higgins
- 53:14Speaker 3: is needed instead of Jamar Chase. And that's how this
- 53:16Speaker 3: stuff works. So go ahead hoop a.
- 53:19Speaker 6: Couple differences for sure in in pricing, and I guess
- 53:24Speaker 6: you know, back to the main point that we always
- 53:25Speaker 6: talk about, Like we like some of those pass catchers
- 53:28Speaker 6: up top on DK, it's a little harder on FanDuel
- 53:31Speaker 6: for DK Metcalf to get their Jamar Chase.
- 53:33Speaker 4: But I think this week or this game specifically, I
- 53:37Speaker 4: want to embrace that a little bit and still play
- 53:39Speaker 4: those guys up top quite a bit. Like you definitely
- 53:41Speaker 4: see the quarterbacks get pushed there and they're fine plays.
- 53:44Speaker 4: I think better plays on FanDuel then on Draftking, But
- 53:48Speaker 4: DK Jamar Chase T Higgins, I'd stay on track and
- 53:51Speaker 4: make sure to get them up top. And T Higgins
- 53:54Speaker 4: is one of the guys that has a lower price
- 53:57Speaker 4: on FanDuel than DK, Like he's Jamar Chase is thirteen
- 54:01Speaker 4: to two on FanDuel. T Higgins is eighty six hundred.
- 54:04Speaker 4: I mean you're looking at almost five thousand dollars difference
- 54:08Speaker 4: in price of T Higgins is definitely one that stands
- 54:10Speaker 4: out as cheaper on fanduelm same as Jalen Warren ninety
- 54:15Speaker 4: two hundred. Jamar Chase is ten to six, So fourteen
- 54:19Speaker 4: hundred dollars difference between Jalen Warren and Chase Brown on
- 54:23Speaker 4: FanDuel where if you look at DK, Warren is actually
- 54:27Speaker 4: four hundred dollars more expensive. So those were a couple.
- 54:31Speaker 4: Then you got all the cheap dudes that we already
- 54:32Speaker 4: talked about. I just want to see, you know, Friar
- 54:37Speaker 4: Muth is a little more expensive. He's like forty six hundred.
- 54:40Speaker 4: I don't love that, but five k John new Smith
- 54:43Speaker 4: fifty six. So the tight ends, the other tight ends
- 54:46Speaker 4: are still cheap. Where's our other dude over here, Darnel
- 54:52Speaker 4: Washington twenty four hundred, still very cheap, so a lot
- 54:56Speaker 4: of the same stuff. But Jalen Warren and T. Higgins
- 54:59Speaker 4: are the you that are substantially cheaper on Fan Duel
- 55:02Speaker 4: versus a DK.
- 55:04Speaker 1: New new ticker up there at the bottom for you.
- 55:06Speaker 4: Hoo's to I love that, man, that's a good one.
- 55:13Speaker 4: I really like that one.
- 55:15Speaker 1: Yeah, just put whatever you want up there, just if
- 55:16Speaker 1: anyone didn't hear it.
- 55:17Speaker 3: The first seven weeks name one head to head with
- 55:21Speaker 3: just ten seconds of effort.
- 55:23Speaker 1: But this is a good one.
- 55:24Speaker 3: Actually right here, Kenny could afford this too. I'll pay
- 55:27Speaker 3: for a golden ticket.
- 55:28Speaker 1: We don't.
- 55:28Speaker 3: We can't give up the integrity of the games. But
- 55:30Speaker 3: we could just set that up. That might be the ship.
- 55:33Speaker 1: And games we'll live on. Maybe we'll make like a specialty.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Someone wants to play somebody for X amount and we
- 55:39Speaker 3: facilitate it, and we work like the escrow, and it's
- 55:41Speaker 3: who puts his record on the line versus Kenny, and
- 55:43Speaker 3: the community can go against it and put stuff in.
- 55:46Speaker 3: We can make some fun around that. But yeah, let's
- 55:49Speaker 3: see what else we got going on here? Anything else?
- 55:52Speaker 3: You know? Someone said Warren is rushing for two Tonight
- 55:54Speaker 3: Rogers for one flak of for one to brown out
- 55:56Speaker 3: of the backfield, to go along.
- 55:57Speaker 1: With one pick.
- 55:58Speaker 3: I might just build this lineup, happen to bet off
- 56:00Speaker 3: the show. Like, I think you just gave away the
- 56:02Speaker 3: whole winner, right.
- 56:03Speaker 4: So I like that.
- 56:04Speaker 1: I like that anything title for you to add on
- 56:06Speaker 1: that stuff before we get to the final Golden Ship
- 56:08Speaker 1: at winner of this week seven start.
- 56:11Speaker 5: No, who pretty much covered everything I was gonna say
- 56:13Speaker 5: on FanDuel. So I I mean, Darnell's still going to
- 56:16Speaker 5: be expensive over there, or Darnall's still way too cheap.
- 56:19Speaker 5: He's gonna be way more popular over there. The quarterbacks,
- 56:22Speaker 5: like Coop said in the beginning, that was the big difference.
- 56:24Speaker 5: The pass catchers will be lower owned to MVP relative
- 56:27Speaker 5: to DK, I think, and the quarterbacks will be higher.
- 56:30Speaker 5: So yeah, Hoop nailed it. So I got nothing more, all.
- 56:33Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't see too much else.
- 56:34Speaker 3: I think the only on Fandel was like the again,
- 56:36Speaker 3: we'll we'll have this is the initials only, so we'll
- 56:38Speaker 3: see how the Darnell ownership shakes out.
- 56:40Speaker 1: For FanDuel. It should be little bit higher, i'd imagine,
- 56:42Speaker 1: But I wonder.
- 56:43Speaker 3: Too, Like I did talk about this last week on
- 56:46Speaker 3: the main slate, and I think it applies to showdown
- 56:47Speaker 3: just as much for sure, because you always see, like, really,
- 56:50Speaker 3: even when it's the unique shippers on FanDuel now, which
- 56:52Speaker 3: we've seen a ton of the season two, you look
- 56:54Speaker 3: at it it's like, where's this separator in there? And you
- 56:56Speaker 3: realize almost always it's like, oh, forty five hundred left
- 56:59Speaker 3: on the table, that's the separate or obviously the more
- 57:02Speaker 3: money you leave on the table, you can get away
- 57:05Speaker 3: with some chokier plays because most people that are on
- 57:07Speaker 3: that chalk are still spending all the cash.
- 57:08Speaker 1: That's part of the edge that we keep talking about.
- 57:10Speaker 3: But on FanDuel, on the main slate, I've noted this
- 57:13Speaker 3: a ton of times, and it's.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Mainly that you don't really end up.
- 57:17Speaker 3: You can always afford wide receiver one or wide receiver
- 57:20Speaker 3: two instead of needing wide receiver three. And I wonder
- 57:23Speaker 3: if that's how this works tonight, because you've got like
- 57:26Speaker 3: Rogers eighteen to nine metcalf eighteen three. We've seen like
- 57:29Speaker 3: twenty one thousand and twenty thousand, nine hundred and things
- 57:32Speaker 3: like that up top, and it's it's a little bit
- 57:34Speaker 3: less for everybody. So maybe that's a possibility. And everyone
- 57:38Speaker 3: still knows this FanDuel sucks. But Hoop and Ham shout
- 57:40Speaker 3: out through our guy Hamdwich took down the ten k
- 57:42Speaker 3: this past week overall. I think it was on Monday
- 57:45Speaker 3: actually in the FanDuel streets. He does our FanDuel slate plan,
- 57:48Speaker 3: So you love to see that. But anything else, Hoop
- 57:52Speaker 3: for you. Final thoughts before we announce this final winner.
- 57:55Speaker 4: No, sir, you know, just good luck to everyone. Let's
- 57:59Speaker 4: get weeks seven started out on the right foot. Let's
- 58:03Speaker 4: get a hot start here and carry that into the
- 58:05Speaker 4: into the weekend. Man looking forward to this game, I
- 58:07Speaker 4: think this could be a fun game. A top on
- 58:08Speaker 4: the opening, like if it's Jake Browning back there, this
- 58:11Speaker 4: game probably pretty boring and uneventful, like Joe Flaccough. I
- 58:16Speaker 4: think gives this game a chance to be fun and competitive,
- 58:20Speaker 4: and I think it gives the Bengals a chance to
- 58:22Speaker 4: win this game. I'm calling the calling the opposite tonight.
- 58:25Speaker 4: Like I I liked it a little better with Trey Hendrickson
- 58:28Speaker 4: in there. But I think I think the Bengals are
- 58:31Speaker 4: gonna surprise and win this game.
- 58:32Speaker 1: You remember the old thing.
- 58:33Speaker 3: I think you stepped out for a second earlier I
- 58:35Speaker 3: said it to the title, But you remember the old thing?
- 58:36Speaker 3: Plus five and a half at home auto bet plus
- 58:40Speaker 3: five happen. I think it was like seventy percent at
- 58:43Speaker 3: one point, which is obviously crushing for the betting streets,
- 58:46Speaker 3: But just to note it, I thought that was kind
- 58:47Speaker 3: of interesting to see that number sitting here like this,
- 58:50Speaker 3: and maybe they do show up with flack with the
- 58:52Speaker 3: helm like you said, So we'll have to wait and
- 58:53Speaker 3: see Golden ship It.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Where's it at here? You got to turn off this.
- 58:57Speaker 1: I got too hyped on the ticker today.
- 58:59Speaker 3: Boys, you got everybody, We got Golden ship It number
- 59:03Speaker 3: twenty two the Share a ship this week is an
- 59:06Speaker 3: incredible one because it's the five to fifty five MILLI again,
- 59:08Speaker 3: a million bucks up top, lucky number twenty two, my
- 59:11Speaker 3: favorite number with me.
- 59:14Speaker 1: Week seven, the winner is Kenneth Jones.
- 59:18Speaker 4: Kenneth Jones sounds like a financial financial advisor.
- 59:22Speaker 1: It probably is.
- 59:23Speaker 3: If you google Kenneth Jones Financial, it'll come right out Academy,
- 59:27Speaker 3: firm or one of each.
- 59:28Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely.
- 59:29Speaker 4: Gonna be He's something in finance, which I like. Our
- 59:31Speaker 4: chances with Kenneth out there.
- 59:33Speaker 1: That's what we need. Kenneth, you're in, buddy, So Kenneth
- 59:35Speaker 1: the Jones.
- 59:36Speaker 3: Congrats to you. Congrats to Dustin Morehead. That's the first
- 59:40Speaker 3: two winners. If you guys are a member and you
- 59:42Speaker 3: haven't got the email yet, make sure to check.
- 59:45Speaker 1: We'll just say this again and again on these shows,
- 59:47Speaker 1: but you check your inbox, check your spam, check your junk.
- 59:50Speaker 1: What I know is it's Also someone said this was
- 59:53Speaker 1: hilarious in the chat the other day. They go in
- 59:55Speaker 1: the discord, they said, I went and checked my email
- 59:57Speaker 1: and I had one, but it was just my payment receipt.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoy my cash.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Shouldn't say well, you're getting value for it, but just
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: noting it. It does come from that same email account,
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: and so I think some people probably just move that
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: to their whatever folder and just like separate them. So
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: make sure you check your emails to make sure if
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: you've got that email for the Golden Shipper this week
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: where somebody will play their way in to ticket number
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: twenty three Golden Ship at number twenty three for this week.
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: So all right, guys, that's gonna do it for this week.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: Hopefully that was helpful. You know, we got a good
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: game tonight, we'll talk to it. We'll be back tomorrow.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of different stuff going on with
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: different the Cash Show, all those things, and then Saturday
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: Leverage Lane, Sunday right back with the three of Us
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: Hoop Title and myself to give our final thoughts.
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