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(VIDEO) AFTER HOURS SESSIONS PODCAST with D ROCK! · CALL ME MISTRESS

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Call me Mistress. Mistress Mia controls the
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narrative. Solo Obey.
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Hi, welcome to the latest episode, Call me Mistress.
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I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and today I have a special guest
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with me. This is D Rock coming all the
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way from Philly and he does the After Hours Sessions podcast.
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So thank you for coming on the show.
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D Rock, how are you? Today I'm doing great.
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Mistress, thank you so much for having me.
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It's a pleasure. So, so welcome.
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So welcome. You're doing me the honor.
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Oh, the I I trust me. It's I am honored that you want
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me on this is so cool. I'm so excited.
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Thank you. So you started this podcast and
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you've been doing it since 2020 and you did it because you like
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to go to Dom's. And you know, I've really not
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had a lot of clients or anything on the show to even talk about
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it because so many of them, they don't want to talk about it.
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So for you to be completely open about it and tell about your
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sessions, that that would just be something we need to dive
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into because you have the kink fetish of getting wrestled with
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Doms. Yeah, I I love, I love.
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So I probably like in middle school high when puberty hit, I,
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I just knew, you know, when guys had, they were thinking about,
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oh man, that girl's so pretty. You know, you're in 6th, 7th
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grade and like they want to make out.
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I'd be like, she's so pretty. I'd love to like lift and carry
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her. You know, it was just like, that
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was where my mindset was and, and I was like, man, that I can,
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I knew no one else thought this way around me.
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So it was kind of like that hidden thing of like, how do I
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explain this to people? And when I got older, I tried
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with some friends and they did not get it.
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And it was just jokes and making fun of and teasing.
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So I kind of kept it to myself. But I just knew as I, you know,
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went to college, my interest grew, grew and grew.
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And I started discovering online, you know, through
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YouTube and other things like there is a world out here for me
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that people do like this. And I would see like on YouTube,
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like a lift and carry or a mixed wrestling clip with thousands of
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views. And I'm like, I know I've
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watched this a lot, but I didn't watch this 50,000 times.
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So there's other people who like this.
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I'm not alone here. And I, I started going finding
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certain people from Michaela Miles to Amazon, Amanda the
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Mutiny. And at first it was their
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personal websites and seeing that they tour and I'm like, oh,
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OK, you know, that's pretty cool.
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And then I found another like sessiongirls.com that Jennifer
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Thomas started and, you know, you see people coming to your
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area. And finally it was about 2012
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and I said, I'm going to do it. My favorite session wrestler,
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one of my favorites, she was coming to the area.
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And I'm like, I saved up money. I was like, I'm just going to,
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I'm going to see how this goes. And I, I was kind of ignorant to
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it. I'm like, is this illegal?
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Am I going to get in trouble? What's the deal here?
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I'm like, but they're doing I I was looking up like, you know,
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is this illegal? I go on Google.
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I'm like, I guess it's fine. And I'll never forget it was
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July of 2012. I I took the train into Center
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City Philadelphia and it was this session wrestler still
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going strong named Mutiny. She's from Canada and she was
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right at the the Marriott by the Convention Center.
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So I just walked off the train and the Marriott's right there
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and I just went in and yeah, that was wild that that first
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time that was very different. I so I was so nervous.
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I was I just turned 23 two days before, so a fresh 23 year old
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and hadn't done anything like this.
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And you know, I she gave me a number for her to call like when
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I'm there, but I called she didn't answer, but she had put
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her room number in there too and like the e-mail.
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So then I'm like waiting and like, OK.
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And so I go up to the front desk and I go, Hey, can you let
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person in room, you know, whatever.
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I think it was like 8 O3 let them know that I'm here.
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And they were like who? And they gave me like a strange
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look and I'm like the person in room 8O3 and they're like,
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what's her name? And then I was like, oh, and
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luckily I've been on her website and she had put her first name
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on some things. So I, I knew it and I said it to
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them and they're like, OK, so you want to visit her?
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And then more of the staff start like coming around and I'm like,
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this is not good here. I'm like, this is bad.
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I'm like, uh, oh, I'm like, am I going to get her in trouble?
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Am I in trouble? And so if they called, she
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didn't answer. And so finally they called again
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and she answered and was like, yeah, give him a room key.
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And I was so nervous at this point, Mistress, it was a whole
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the Marriott, it was like floors like one through 7 you can go up
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fine, but 8 through 15 you have to use the the key to like to
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get access. I had forgotten all about.
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I was just nervous. So they gave me the key and said
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it, I go into the, the elevator. I just, I keep hitting eight and
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I'm just riding up and down and I'm like, what the hell is wrong
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with this elevator? And people are looking at me,
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'cause it's like 5 minutes. I'm just like, why can't I get
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to level 4-8? Here I go it's on here.
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And, and I had the key in my hand, but I was, I had forgotten
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it. I was just like, come on, come
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on. I finally look at it and I go,
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oh, I think you, you got to use this key.
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And I'm like, they were telling me this.
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So then I use it and I get there, but that's how just
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nervous I was for it but. Yeah, poor little baby.
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I was, I was just so like shook. Like when I finally got to her
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room, she was like, oh, it's OK. Like she could tell I was just
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like my heart. I was nervous because I'm like,
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I'm gonna get arrested here. Like I'm like, I didn't even do
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nothing like what's going on. But it, it was so cool.
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I did an episode a few years ago about it on my show because
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scheduled for like an hour and a half session, but we just had
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such a great time. We spent the whole day together
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and we're there for hours. And at one point she was like,
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can I ask you a question? That we're like 3-4 hours in and
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we're just talking about life or background.
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And I go, sure. I'm thinking she wants to try a
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move or something like that. I was like, yeah.
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And she goes, well, where I'm at in Montreal, we don't have TGI
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Friday's. And so I love when I come to
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America to eat at tgi Friday's. Would you want to go with me?
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She's like, I'll pay. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's
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great, I'll go. So we wound up from 11:00 AM to
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about 6:30 at night, spent the whole, like, day together.
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And it was. And I I said it on the show I
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hadn't even put into context, but one of the best days of my
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life was that first session I ever did.
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Awesome. It just shows you your kind
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personality that she was so impressed by you that she'd want
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to spend that kind of time with you.
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Yeah, I, I, I think so. I'll be.
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And I can be honest, like it's changed in like the wrestling
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Dom kind of scene. But I was different in the fact
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that I think they were used to seeing a certain type.
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It was like older guys who were like physically more frail and
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they were white. And so she saw me young, I'm a
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thicker guy, black. And I think that was like, oh,
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OK, like she was. And I think she did tell me
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that. And then it became just talking
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about experiences and talking about life and our passions.
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And, you know, it was the first time that I felt being
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vulnerable, like you could feel like an attraction from that
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vulnerability. I had never felt that before.
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So talking about like body issues and different things I
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had gone through, you know, she connected and would say things
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that she had gone through. And I'm looking at her like
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you're this beautiful woman who all these men talk about how
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beautiful you are and want to see you and you are
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self-conscious. And it was a great lesson there.
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Like we all have those like you think somebody, oh, that person,
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they're they're not self-conscious.
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They don't have issues like we all do, because I'm like, well,
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I'm just me. Of course I have them.
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And she would say, what do you mean?
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You like you're you're, you know, I think you're handsome
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and I go, you're just saying that like I'm not.
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But then on the flip side, I'm saying that to her and just
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trying to like pump her up and her.
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And it was just I saw a person, not that I didn't before, but it
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was just like we vibed and I if you if you probably like filmed
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us that whole day. I don't know if the wrestling if
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we hit an hour total and then we spent like 5 hours in the room
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and then two at the restaurant. Fridays, I don't know if we even
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hit an hour, like the the Max would be an hour that we did
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wrestling kind of stuff. We just laid on the bed and
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talked and just chatted about like everything like and it was
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just a great experience. Wow, that's really amazing.
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Yeah, yeah, it, it really was. It really was cool.
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And I think that's I always when I meet with somebody, even if
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I've seen them before or it's the first time, my mindset is I
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want them to have a good time too.
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So I want to be the best why And I can be because I get a kick
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out of when they're like, oh, you threw out something that's
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within the boundaries. Of course, always.
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That's always key. But it's like, I never tried
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that. But I never had a session like
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this before. I love hearing that or I love it
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when someone's coming back to my area, like Philadelphia, and
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they reach out to me like, hey, I'm coming.
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Like that's like, oh, OK. Like they had a great experience
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too. That was that was a special
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thing. And it's one of those things
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when you have no other being to base it on, you don't.
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I knew the day was great and amazing, but you don't know how
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special that was until later on and until like I, I saw mutiny
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again like a couple years after that and all that.
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But like I just, I had that one experience at the time.
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So I'm like, I was appreciative. It was great, but I didn't know
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like, oh, doesn't everybody do this?
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Like I was, I was very naive to it.
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Like I came into it because I'm watching these clips and I'm
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watching video and I'm thinking, well, there's a cameraman,
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they're doing it. And I'm thinking, well, these
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ladies are traveling with a bodyguard problem.
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So I expected going into that first session, there was a going
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to be a bodyguard or somebody with her.
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And I was fond of that. I'm like, yeah, safety first.
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So when it was just like, it's just us two in the room and then
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she, I was like, I thought there'd be a bodyguard or a
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camera guy or so like, that's just how naive I was to it.
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And then she kind of was like, no, yeah, you you might travel
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with another Dom or another session wrestler, but you travel
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by yourself. And I'm like, oh, OK.
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Like that. I had no clue, Mistress, on how
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it worked. That's so interesting.
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Yeah. You know, it's so sweet.
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I love to get really young guys like that.
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Or 2023, you know, and it's their first time.
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But I I know I have one specific client of mine and he loves to
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wrestle, but he loves booty drops.
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So he loves the big booty and, you know, dropping on them, it
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is one of the funnest times. And it's funny because him and I
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share the same birthday and so we call each other twinsies and
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he gets to come down to see me maybe once or twice a year.
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But yeah, the whole concept of wrestling to me is always it's
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just fun because you don't necessarily.
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A lot of people put that in the genre of BDSM, you know, like
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anything else, people be like, oh, ABDL or oh, feet, is it
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really BDSM? I'm like, yes, it really is.
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It's a big umbrella. It's a kink, it's a fetish.
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People enjoy it and that's what we do.
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One of my one of my Doms at work in the dungeon with me.
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Her name's Barbie and Barbie is a big blonde and she lifts
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weights. And so she's, she's like, she's
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probably like right at 5-7, but she'll always wear, you know,
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6-7 inch heels when she does a session.
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So she's fucking ginormous. And she's a big blonde, you
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know, But she does this little wrestling move.
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She's like, I'm going to get him in a headlock, you know?
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She loves. To do it, that's great.
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Loves. It you know she's. 20.
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Six, you know, she's invincible, you know?
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Yeah. Yeah, I know that feeling, but I
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used to know that feeling. That's that's so cool.
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That's so awesome. Like it, I tell people it's
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weird because sometimes I come from like my desk job, you know,
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and I'm going right to a session and, you know, I'm in like khaki
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pants and like a polo shirt and, you know, have like my book bag
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ready to go. And, you know, and then like,
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you know, people are judging you, you know, not that you ever
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judge, but they're looking at you on the train or whatever
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they see. And they're like, oh, he's just
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yeah, guy who went to work. And I'm like, they have no idea
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what I'm about to do. Like, yeah, they have no, even
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in the hotel, Like, oh, yeah, but I'm just going to go up to
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this room and people are like, OK.
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And I'm like. And The thing is, I get that
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same feeling, even though the, my first session was going on 14
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years ago, like the end, I've learned how to like calm it down
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where before I'd be just counting down the days like, you
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know, 14 days, 13 day. So now I, you know, I know how
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to like be better with that. But still, when it's the day of
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and I'm on my way, getting ready to go, like I still get that
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like nervous energy and like a positive way, like excited, like
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can't wait to do it. It it, that feeling doesn't go
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away. No matter how many times I've
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met the person or how long I've been doing it, I still get that
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feeling. Now, before we started
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recording, you said that you resist, you're good with, you
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know, them giving their all to a point, but you don't want them
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to have to work too hard for it, right?
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Right, right, right. I, I, I at most I like doing
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different types of sessions to like get a variety and I like, I
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don't know, that's the ADHD mod. I like being different.
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It's sticking out. So if I can so at depending on
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the person because you get a different umbrella of like the
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session wrestler, wrestling Doms.
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Some have that like extensive grappling background.
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They did wrestling or jiu jitsu or judo and others kind of like
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learn the moves, but they don't really have that background.
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So like that's a different mindset.
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And there's other who are like the muscle and they don't have
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the wrestling background, but their strength based.
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And sometimes you get a hybrid. So a few times when I meet those
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ladies who have like that grappling background and I don't
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have that grappling background. So they're they're if we did
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compete, yeah, if we did compete, I would get housed
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really bad anyway if I was trying to like go all out.
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But I think sometimes and I kind of felt I discovered it by
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accident. I didn't even purposely, it was
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maybe like the second or third session I did and someone was
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like, oh, my legs. So I put like a scissor hold and
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I squeak, you know, put the legs around the neck.
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Everyone taps and I'm like, oh, OK.
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And I'm like, I guess I'll tap, you know?
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And she did it and she was squeezing and we just were
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sitting there for a bit and I couldn't get out really.
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But it was like I wasn't tapping.
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And then she's like, this is going to do it.
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And she squeezed real hard and I felt the pressure, but I'm like,
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no, I'm OK, I can do this. And so she was like, what?
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Like usually that gets people. And then like, that's like a
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challenge for her. So then I'm like, oh, this might
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be my thing. When somebody is like, oh, I
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know I'll make you tap easy. I'm like, sometimes they do.
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And then other times that they don't, it's kind of fun.
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Like, I don't know, I guess you can't make me tap.
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So it's just things like that. I like to kind of like keep it
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spicy a little bit and try some different stuff.
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That's fun. So these doms, are they usually
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wearing their their dominatrix gear or do you have a preference
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in what they would normally would wear?
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So. Yes.
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So I'm going to be honest. So please.
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With. So session wrestlers, it's
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usually like a bikini bathing suit, some maybe some kind of
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athletic wear and then the Doms have like certain.
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So I'm big on if there's I, I love a good bathing suit either
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way, but like if there's like a one piece, like a one piece
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thong is like great. And I love boots, like women
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wearing like boots, but like the the typical like latex boots,
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they're great too. But I love like a woman just
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wearing like winter boots is like really like hot to me.
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Like, I hate winter and this winter has been brutal here and
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I tell people the only thing I miss when winter goes away and
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it's spring and summer is I love seeing ladies like with their
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jeans or leggings and boots combo.
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I, I, that turns me on And I'm like that, you know, goes away
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when it's summertime and I go, that's the only thing I miss
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about winter when it's cold out is like that.
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Everything else winter can kick rocks.
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So Long story short, you know, I I will ask for that if I've seen
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them in like a certain clip or like on their website, I might
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request a certain like outfit to with those things, But I'm more
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into like the I'm bathing suit, like bikini kind of person.
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I've seen some some lingerie some different things like that
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have been cool too But that and if they have them like the boots
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like it always works. That's awesome.
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That's cool. Now you told me you're a psych
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major. Yes.
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Yes. Why do you think?
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You like this D rock? I that's a good question.
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A few eels funny. The people who I've talked to
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like very few asked me like vanilla, like I've been asked
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probably on one hand, like why I've thought about it.
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I don't I don't know. I, you know, I grew up liking
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still am like pro wrestling, like WWE was a fan of that and
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like world's strongest man or world's strongest woman.
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Like, like I, I knew at a young age, like the gift of speed was
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not me. Like I knew I was like 6 or 7.
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And you know, you keep doing races and and I go, I'm I'm not
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good. I'm not going to win this.
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Like, and I kind of like threw in the towel like this isn't for
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me. Like I'm all my other friends.
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They were running fast and competing and I was just lagging
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up the rear. But something about being
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strong. Connected and strengthen like
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impressive feats of strength, whether it was with weights or
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objects. But then when I would see like
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in wrestling, like people lifting people that like
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clicked. And that was always what I love
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to see and even like in superheroes, like, I love to see
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like the really the strong like the Incredible Hulk or Thor.
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I just gravitated toward that. And I think yeah, I, I, I think
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that's what clicked. And so that was there before
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puberty and then when I hit puberty and like you start for
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the first time really doing things with like the opposite
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sex and you're going to like end of the year swim parties and
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stuff like that. And I would, you know, you'd be
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in the pool and you're dunking the girls and you know, you're
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immature. So it's like the girls like deep
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down you have a crush on, but you act like you don't and you
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play it. But it was like a way to be
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close, I guess, you know, And still I think who knows now, but
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keep a mask of like, Oh, he's just my friend dunking me when
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deep down it was like, oh, I'm, I'm getting close to you here.
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So I, I don't know. That's it, it, it's just, it's
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stuck though. It's still, you know, in my
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personal life, like that's a it's a turn on too.
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Like I could do other things. It's not like all I can do is
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like, just that. But that is I love.
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Like, you know, the I'm single, but the past a girl I'm seeing,
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let me pick her up, put her softly on the bed like that.
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That's hot. Yeah, it is.
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It is. I, It's funny that we even came
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on this topic and you know, we started talking and I saw your
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podcast and everything because my husband, he sent me this
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video and it's this big Amazonian women.
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It let me say that again, there's this big Amazonian
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woman. I can't even talk today.
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So sorry. It's cool.
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There's this big Amazon woman and she is beautiful.
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She's big, beautiful brunette. She's got this.
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I'm going to have to send you the video.
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But when I saw it, I was like, you know, she comes in and she
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has this little skinny guy and she flips him over and like, he
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ain't nothing, you know, like a bag of potato chips, you know.
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But I've, I've come across that so often that there's so many
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different men who love that, that concept of a big Amazon
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woman, kind of like just taking control of them and such.
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Yeah. Yeah, I, I have that it, it's
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different. I wonder I part of me wants to
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know if I know the person in that video, like like if I if
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it's someone I've talked to before met with.
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But I'll send you the video. It's yeah, it's cool, yeah.
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It's, it's, it's, it's different because I've, I'm, I'm always,
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I'm not like the I'm average, you know, like 5-10, but always
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with a thick guy. So usually when it comes to like
23:40
the lift carry stuff, the woman lifts the man.
23:45
I'm different where I like to lift the ladies and I get a kick
23:48
out of the big Amazon woman like, and I can pick her up over
23:52
my shoulder and spin her around. Like I like that part.
23:56
But I do like there is something to what you're saying where, you
24:00
know, being 510. So so there in this world, like
24:03
there's Amazon women who are definitely taller to way taller
24:06
than me. And there is something about
24:09
that like that. I do like that.
24:11
It's cool. I love seeing it.
24:14
Honestly, since I've been doing this, I love seeing that out and
24:19
like, I guess the wild and I'll say where like, you know, you'll
24:23
see like a couple in the the woman's taller than the man
24:27
'cause I think like, yeah, let's, let's, we don't need that
24:31
societal like BS. Like all all.
24:33
To me, it's I don't want everyone has preferences, but a
24:37
lot of times when I talk to people, it's really just the
24:41
judgement of others is what makes it a knock when it comes
24:44
down to, in my opinion, it's like, what's it like?
24:47
If, if they could like if no one would ever see them or no one
24:50
would know if the society didn't have it, then yeah, they would
24:53
talk. You know, a guy would have no
24:55
problem dating a woman taller and a woman would have no
24:58
problem dating a guy shorter. But I, I just feel like usually
25:03
comes down to that societal stuff and that it's really is it
25:08
really is because I'll from my job and other having a lot of
25:13
like platonic female friends and some of them are taller.
25:18
All of them have that battle and they all want someone who's like
25:23
much taller than them. And they might be 510
25:25
themselves. And I'm like, hey, whoever
25:28
you're with, that's cool, long as you're happy.
25:30
But if you're looking for 6/3 to 6/5, I hope you find it.
25:34
But your pool is so shrunken now.
25:37
Yeah, when you just keep it that way, good.
25:42
And sometimes it's such interesting because it will be
25:45
like if I you know, a friend who's 5 foot 10 and it's like,
25:49
oh, here's a guy who's 6 foot and I'm like, well, he's taller
25:53
than you, but it's not tall enough because, well, if I wear
25:55
the heels and I'm like, well, I'm like, do you live in heels?
25:59
Like how often do you wear heels anyway?
26:01
And how often do you wear heels out with a partner?
26:05
So I'm like, that's going to affect you when like you don't
26:09
even wear heels all the time anyway, You know, it's, it's
26:12
just those things that I find fascinating.
26:14
And everybody has like both genders has these hang ups, you
26:19
know, but it's like it's just societal.
26:20
That was one of the great things when I started doing it.
26:25
And I'm going out becoming friends with like Amazon Annie.
26:30
She's like 6 foot 61 and she's like, hey, you want to go get
26:34
pizza or something? We're had a session and we're
26:36
walking out there and people, some people made some comments,
26:40
most didn't, but some did nothing like bad, bad, but just
26:43
said, oh wow, you're real tall to her.
26:45
And she was just whatever about it and had a great time.
26:48
And I'm like, yeah, who who cares?
26:51
And, you know, Amazon, Amanda, she's 63, and I've hung out with
26:55
her out there and, you know, and she's had on heels, which made
26:59
her 66 or something like that. Like I said, I'm 510.
27:03
Without the heel. She cowers me.
27:05
But with them, she does. And it doesn't matter.
27:08
Like, it's like, yeah, who cares?
27:10
Let's just roll with it. This past year, I went to
27:14
Exotica, New Jersey, and someone I had interviewed on the show,
27:18
her name's Goddess Seashell, and she's 6 foot 7.
27:24
And she had on heels, which I, I wondered, they probably made her
27:27
six 10611 And she was like, Hey, you want to meet up?
27:31
And I'm like, absolutely. And everybody, people, she
27:34
obviously stood out and people were like talking and looking
27:36
and went up, said hey, we hugged and talked like and I don't
27:41
know, I would hope maybe I but if I didn't have this world, I
27:45
don't know if I would have learned those lessons as
27:48
quickly. Yeah, that's interesting.
27:53
I I don't know, I I talk about this on the show all the time
27:58
because I like little men. OK, so that's so so how tall are
28:04
you? I'm.
28:05
Right at 5/8 and yeah, I'm I'm right about 270 give or take.
28:11
But my husband is 559 and 170. I mean, I got 100 lbs on them,
28:19
but you know, when I met him he was probably like 150 and I was
28:26
100 lbs heavier. Oh, OK.
28:29
So. We really, we've always stuck
28:31
out and people are just like, you know, then they, yeah, then
28:36
they would accuse me of being his mother.
28:38
And I was like, Oh yeah, I'm his mom, all right?
28:43
I love that. That's great, no?
28:45
And, and then I, I play with a, a Sissy of mine and you know,
28:49
he's like 58 and 125 lbs, you know, and it's like, I love
28:54
little compact men. They're like little dolls that I
28:57
can play with. That's what.
28:59
Yeah, You know, sometimes I think about that because this
29:04
may sound, you know, just having so many platonic female friends
29:09
and hearing like they're horror stories of dealing with men,
29:14
right. And sometimes I'm like, well, on
29:17
the flip side, if you dealt with a smaller guy, you could maybe
29:21
not that, you know, unless there's like, you know, outside
29:24
of playfulness, like you don't got to worry about him like, you
29:28
know, picking you up and taking you over your shoulder.
29:31
Like you're like, hey, I could toss him around like, you know,
29:34
I'm like that. That should be a plus for like
29:36
a, you know, having somebody smaller.
29:39
And I, I think about that sometimes, you know?
29:43
Trust me, I pushed them around. Yeah.
29:45
Yeah, but exactly right. It's like, you know, hey, taking
29:50
one back here. Exactly.
29:52
Exactly. You know, I'm, I'm a Dom in my
29:56
life and my real life 24/7. There's no, yeah, there's no sub
30:00
to me at all. And so when I dominate in the
30:03
dungeon, I dominate the dungeon and I, I get guys obviously that
30:08
are tall and it doesn't bother me, you know it, But it's kind
30:12
of like, you know, five 10s average, average height, you
30:15
know, which is fine. But I remember dating a guy, he
30:18
was like 6 foot 7 and I was wearing heels on our date and I
30:22
was like, this motherfucker, I can't keep up with him.
30:25
I mean, he's like, do we just drop you off at the door?
30:30
I'm like yeah you should have dropped me off at the door in
30:32
the 1st place fucker. Yeah, I got to ask you this that
30:37
I don't know if that was the only, I don't know how many
30:39
taller people you've like dated, but I've heard this, that some
30:43
ladies have said this, that when you do get a guy who has that
30:48
height, he kind of has been used to getting the attention from
30:53
the opposite sex. So he kind of feels like he
30:55
doesn't have to, to bring it necessarily because like ladies
31:01
have come to him because I think we've seen the trend, even if
31:04
it's always been there. But now like if you have like a
31:07
certain height, if you're 6 something and up like at least
31:11
like a certain range, like that alone makes you like a hot
31:14
commodity. So I don't know, like if that's
31:17
like, I know, I know it's not everyone's experience, but I'm
31:20
wondering like if that's something you notice too.
31:23
Yeah, You know, I, I think with him, he was, he was an odd
31:30
person. He had just gotten his license
31:32
when he was 25. He was in the military.
31:35
Yeah. He got signed into the military
31:36
when he was 17. And so he was very socially
31:39
awkward. He didn't even think he was
31:41
attractive. But I mean, he was very
31:43
attractive. And he was pretty much a virgin
31:47
before I met him. So I was, you know, he didn't
31:50
think anything of it. But I've dated other tall guys
31:53
and they were fucking douchebags, you know?
31:56
So I'm like you. I think a lot of them feel like
31:58
they don't. They don't do they really don't
32:01
have to do much, right? Yeah.
32:04
Like the heavy lifting is I'm tall.
32:06
Yeah. And and I've always said this to
32:09
people because I was talking. I'm like, when I've talked to
32:13
people who were like, in a relationship for a while and it
32:17
wasn't great. And it's like, well, why did you
32:20
stay so long? You hear like the kids or I was
32:23
afraid to start over, you know, all thing the empathy for I go,
32:26
I'd never hear anyone say like, well, he was so tall.
32:29
How could you like not leave? Like he's just height.
32:32
So I'm always like, I can see that being a key a thing to like
32:37
get your attention. But I'm like that kind of I feel
32:40
like fades in my opinion, like after a while, like like he's a
32:44
jerk, but I'm going to stick with him.
32:45
He's tall. Like I'm like, I don't, I don't
32:47
hear people say that. You know, so many times I've had
32:51
friends in the past and they've been vanilla friends.
32:53
Mind you, they were really not friends anymore and they only
32:58
stayed with men for two reasons. One, for money because they
33:02
didn't want to have to work, lazy bitches.
33:08
And two, that Dick was gold, right?
33:11
Right, right. And that's.
33:12
It you know, I've heard. Yep, Yep.
33:15
You know. It's amazing what some women
33:17
will stay in a shitty relationship for, you know?
33:22
Oh yeah. And, and I have empathy, but
33:25
like, I'm like I when I have because you, it's a conversation
33:27
I have with a lot of my taller friends, female friends.
33:32
And it's opposite of when I have a lot of women on my podcast who
33:35
are really tall and it's great to hear their stories about, you
33:40
know, growing up they felt insecure, but they've found that
33:43
confidence and now they're just like, whatever.
33:45
And they're like, we're getting paid for being tall and like we
33:48
and they embrace it. And I, I almost wish like some
33:51
of my other tall vanilla friends could meet these ladies and
33:57
like, because sometimes it's like it, it just bothers me.
34:01
It makes me sad because they're, they just, you can see how much
34:04
that weighs on them just being tall.
34:06
And I'm like, that's no, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you're a
34:11
great person. You were talking to a shitty guy
34:16
like he's a jerk. No matter what height you are,
34:20
he's a jerk. He's just a shitty dude.
34:22
Like, you know, more look for like green flags.
34:26
And this guy has a million red flags.
34:28
Like I wish. But it becomes like, well, it
34:30
must be because I'm tall. That's why he acted that way.
34:32
And I'm like, man. And it just kind of makes me
34:34
sad, especially someone who has, I still do battle like self
34:39
esteem, things like that. It it, it's, it makes me sad to
34:44
hear others, but it makes me glad that I have this world, the
34:48
non vanilla world where in my experiences it really is
34:54
connection. It really is like everybody is
34:59
welcome that I mean like everybody is a person, but also
35:02
every physical body is welcomed and embraced and that's always
35:05
been like really cool. Absolutely, Yeah.
35:09
You know, I think a lot of, like, submissive women that I've
35:12
spoken with over the years, they always like a taller man because
35:16
they feel smaller. It makes them feel almost like a
35:21
girl, you know, and they have a protector.
35:25
And maybe it's a maybe it's a woman with daddy issues, you
35:28
know? Yeah, Yeah.
35:29
Maybe daddy wasn't there to protect them.
35:31
I don't know. Here were the psych majors.
35:34
Let's figure this one out. I know, right?
35:36
I know, I know because I do say that though, because I've had my
35:42
one friend, Reese, she's like 58 and she says that and I had to
35:48
bring up to her, I go, just because that guy is 64 doesn't
35:51
mean if something happens he can protect you like that doesn't
35:54
mean he knows how to handle himself.
35:55
Not at all. Well, that that.
35:57
Doesn't mean and so then I'm like, so is if the if the
36:03
perpetrator is 65, does that make the six four guy like he
36:07
can't do anything? I'm like it doesn't match up.
36:10
Like there's guys who are short, shorter than you who can handle
36:14
business. That's like there's ladies who
36:16
are small. Most of the session wrestlers I
36:18
meet are definitely most times way less than me.
36:23
And there's, you know, good amount who are shorter than me
36:26
and would kick my butt like that.
36:28
Like, you know what I mean? Like so it doesn't mean anything
36:31
like, but people will think like, well, he could protect me.
36:34
And I'm like, at most what I've seen with people is if you are
36:38
big, depending on how you carry yourself, it can be like a
36:41
deterrence maybe. But that person if something
36:46
goes down, really can't help you because they'll be, I have
36:48
friends who were guys who were 6566 and I know can't, can't
36:53
fight a lick, not judging them. And then I'm like, if something
36:56
really goes down, he's the first one running.
36:59
So I'm like, don't think you're safe now.
37:01
Like you better learn how to act mean or have like a mean face
37:05
because if something really happens, don't don't depend on
37:08
him. Well, you know, my husband, he's
37:13
always done jujitsu and he he'll be the first one to say that.
37:18
I think the concept of jiu jitsu, if they say that 30, I
37:22
think it's like 30 or 45% of all fights it it's a bigger number,
37:28
but they always end on the ground.
37:31
And so you have the upper hand if you're knowledgeable with jiu
37:34
jitsu. But I mean, I watched, you know,
37:38
the female wrestling like that when it comes to seeing clients
37:42
and I've yeah, it's insane how amazing they do.
37:47
So I don't know if they have a lot of training and I'm
37:51
impressed some. Do the certain ones do have that
37:56
training and they have like AMMA background so you will get and
38:00
then there's a lot who I've met who pre getting into this didn't
38:04
have it. But while they get into this and
38:07
like it start that training themselves and it's been cool to
38:11
see certain people. It's like, oh, when they first
38:14
started you could watch their clips or you session with them
38:16
and you see they have like the basic knowledge and as time goes
38:19
on you see their skills like get better, better, better.
38:22
You're like, whoa, like 4 years ago you weren't doing any of
38:26
these things, but now you're you're twisting people up like
38:29
like like pretzels. So it's it's it's always is
38:33
interesting. Yeah.
38:34
And and that's why I think it's cool to talk about because even
38:38
these these like sub genres and BDSM, they have sub genres with
38:43
sub genres and sub genres. So it's like I know when I talk
38:47
to people who don't know about this, they think it's just like
38:51
WWE and I'm like, no, I'm like, but there is a sub genre where
38:55
you can kind of have that aspect in it.
38:57
But I'm like, it's not like that.
38:59
It's it's you can do this, you can do that.
39:01
Like you said, the the face sitting in like the butt drops
39:04
and, and you know, all those different things from oil
39:08
wrestling, lift and carry, just so much stuff like it it, you
39:14
know, the sex wrestling, like with evolved fights with Ariel
39:18
X, like there's so many different subgenres in this.
39:21
Yeah. It's really interesting.
39:24
I mean, it just never gets old. It's always such a fun topic,
39:27
you know, talking about what you can do in different sessions and
39:30
what kinks people really have. Yeah.
39:34
And I think for me, that's where the podcast has been great is
39:38
talking to different people. A like great to meet others and
39:44
have that connection with others that I didn't have even doing
39:47
sessions. I was like the only
39:49
conversations I could have about this were with the session
39:51
wrestlers when I saw them. So being able to meet other fans
39:55
of it and talk to them and talk to session wrestlers I didn't
39:58
know before the podcast and get a connection with them is cool.
40:01
But hearing how I kind of thought free this podcast like
40:06
2020, I love it, but I'm like, we've kind of hit.
40:10
What more can you do, right? Like we, you know, it's
40:12
wrestling and you know, we we see the clips, you see this, you
40:16
see that I'm like, we can't do more.
40:18
And boy was I wrong. There's so many different
40:21
session ideas or clips or different things that I'm seeing
40:25
that I'm like, I would never thought of that or that's so
40:28
cool or that's really interesting and being able to
40:31
talk to people and they're kind of like mini like producers or
40:35
something in their own head. Like, and I just love seeing
40:38
that creativity come out and I'm like like, man, like and it's
40:42
inspired me to do like a blindfold session, whereas
40:45
wrestling, but blindfolded. You know, I would have never
40:48
thought of that years ago to do like a predator and prey where
40:52
it's kind of like you're, you know, I'm the prey and that
40:55
session wrestlers like the the predator, like a snake.
40:58
And I'm trying to avoid them and they're trying to wrap me up and
41:01
get me like, you know, all tied up and stuff like, but it's like
41:04
a playful kind of like role play thing.
41:07
These are all, and that's just a couple that I found out and saw
41:11
and heard about through doing the podcast these past few years
41:14
that I never would have thought of before.
41:18
So what has been some of your better like your top three
41:22
favorite sessions? Wow.
41:24
OK, I see. How's it go?
41:26
That's a good, yeah. I'm interested just.
41:30
So do you mean so this way I make sure like the actual
41:33
session or like the experience overall, whatever.
41:37
You want? I think experience overall is
41:40
always a good thing, OK. So that mutiny one that I, that
41:46
first one was a great session. Yeah, is.
41:49
That like your number one. That's as far as yeah, I I mean,
41:56
yes, it probably is. That was the number one I can
42:05
say I met with someone her name's Des Desire and this had
42:09
to be 2021 or 2022. I ain't 2022.
42:15
And I had her on the I've been a fan of her for a couple years.
42:17
I had her on the podcast like months earlier and she's like a
42:21
brown belt in jiu jitsu does like MMA fighting, like 5-10
42:28
lean fighting machine, but beautiful, really cool.
42:31
And she brought, I don't know how to say the perfect
42:36
combination of like that intensity, but it was still like
42:41
sexual, but we had the boundaries.
42:43
But it was like I'd never been in that.
42:46
Like you kind of see it on TV where it's like people like a
42:49
guy and a girl wrestle around and they're like, maybe they are
42:52
arguing for real. And then it just turns into like
42:55
they're making out. Like that's when having sex.
42:58
That's what they did. We didn't make out or have sex,
43:00
but that's what it felt like. Like usually, you know, I'm a
43:03
big dude. So in these sessions when the
43:06
heat's going, the, the sweats coming and it's coming like a
43:09
faucet. And so I got towels on, towels
43:12
to wipe off. And I'm kind of feel like icky
43:15
and embarrassed, like, oh, I'm sorry.
43:16
And everyone's always been nice, but she was the only person I
43:20
ever heard say this when I was sweating.
43:22
And I'm like, oh man, I'm so sorry.
43:24
She goes, no, I like that. And I go my sweat.
43:27
And she was like, yeah, I go, OK.
43:30
I was like, alright, like, you know.
43:32
And it was just like had that. It was the predator prey kind of
43:36
thing. But we didn't set that up.
43:39
It just felt like that. And she did like different like
43:42
MMA moves that were like, oh, they were cool.
43:46
Like she, she did one thing. I was leaning up against the
43:49
wall and she like, she's like, this is a move that we do try to
43:53
like wear somebody out. And she put her like head in my
43:56
chest and start like rubbing it up and down.
43:59
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I could feel that.
44:01
But it was just like, you know what I could say, I guess it's
44:05
like having a sensual experience like a an MMA fighter.
44:10
And they're doing it like they're in, you're in their
44:12
realm. But it's sensual.
44:14
That's how it felt. And I've never had that before.
44:17
Oh wow. So, so that was your first one
44:21
with Mutiny and then you said your second one was with the jiu
44:25
jitsu guy, the jiu jitsu chick? Yeah, Des.
44:28
Desire, desire. I will say I guess you want 3.
44:35
Oh yes, please, or or. OK, 'cause it's tough because
44:40
someone who she's really been like an innovator in this, like
44:43
Jennifer Thomas, like I've had different sessions with her and
44:51
I think multiple of them always stand out.
44:55
My some 2012, my first year doing the sessions and I, I went
44:59
in once I did that first one, I was, I was, I was like, this is
45:03
great. I probably did one a month.
45:05
The rest of 2012 like I'm like I'm going and I remember
45:11
December and I met Jen. Jen was a big name.
45:15
I've she was coming and I went and we had been emailing for
45:19
like a year. So she, you know, had talked,
45:22
but I told her there was a Co worker who I was like, she's
45:27
kind of cool. I don't know if I like her, but
45:30
I need to just kind of get out of my own head.
45:32
I'm always think I'm always harder on myself.
45:35
Should I ask her out? But I'm like, I'm not really.
45:38
She's like, she's pretty, but I'm not like excited to her like
45:41
that, but she's cool. She asked me to like to go to a
45:44
movie with some friends like a month or two ago.
45:47
Like what do you think I should do?
45:49
And she was like, hey, you know, why not just try and ask?
45:53
She goes, I just broke up with somebody.
45:55
But we dated for four years and I knew him for years at the gym
45:59
and he he didn't, I wasn't attracted to him, but we started
46:03
just talking and having conversation.
46:05
And then I saw him differently. And that could be the case with
46:08
you. And I was like, OK.
46:11
And she had like a a Reese's like thing with like a Santa
46:15
Claus on top. She's like, give this to her as
46:17
a gift. And I was like, oh, OK, like I
46:20
didn't do that. I just ate the Reese's myself.
46:23
But I was like, that's cool. And it had to have been like,
46:29
you know, 10 months later, I asked, I just emailed her
46:33
saying, how you doing And are you coming back?
46:35
Cuz she's based in California. So I was like, you come back to
46:38
Philly And she goes like, hey, yeah, I'm looking to come back.
46:43
And she asked, how did it go with that, that, that girl.
46:47
And she remembered the girl's name, remembered everything
46:50
about it. And I was like, that was like 10
46:52
months to a year ago. And she remember and it was
46:56
like, wow, like you don't have to listen like that, but it was
47:01
so cool to have that experience of she really like listened and
47:07
paid attention and remembered something in my life.
47:10
Like that was so that that was what I always noticed about her
47:14
in those sessions that I've had with her.
47:16
It's the that connection in that way of like genuine friendship
47:20
and genuinely inspiring, motivating, even calling each
47:27
other out in a positive way when on our in our lives, when you
47:31
know, hey, you know, you, you, you know, you deserve better
47:34
than this. So you know, you're better.
47:35
Like you can do that. Like so those sessions always
47:38
kind of mixed with like great wrestling, but a great
47:40
connection and great listening. And she kind of helped to set a
47:44
standard of like when you're in that session as like a session
47:50
wrestler, Dom to like really pay attention to the person.
47:53
So that that sticks out for me too.
47:55
That's always a great thing. I'm like you it it is all about
47:59
connection and I think that when you're so personable, it just
48:03
makes all the difference honestly, when you meet someone
48:05
who's genuine, right? You know, right.
48:08
And that was, that was and don't, I don't want to make it
48:11
sound like the the people I've met before or after, I don't
48:15
have that with too. But that was like the first time
48:18
I ever had experience like that where it's like, I, I don't
48:22
expect you to remember my like, if she didn't remember that, I
48:25
wouldn't be upset at all. I'd be like, yeah, all the
48:27
people you meet. You have your life.
48:30
But the fact that she remembered it and remembered just greatly
48:33
in detail blew me away. Like it, it just really did.
48:37
And and it's always been fun doing sessions with her.
48:42
We've we've had great times. So Jen, Jen Thomas is up there
48:45
too. I have to look her up.
48:48
That's really cool. Yeah.
48:49
Yeah, and I can keep Guy. I got so many different random
48:53
ones, some fun oil wrestling ones with different people, some
48:59
trying to think outside the box to I, oh, I did Star Trek role
49:04
play with the Dom Mistress smash a couple years ago 'cause she
49:08
came on the podcast and she's like in the sci-fi and she's a
49:13
Trekkie. So I was like, she's she's like,
49:16
I wish someone would do that. And I go, well, I know you come
49:20
to Philly, like I'll do that with you.
49:22
And so we we did that. We did like a sci-fi, you know,
49:27
I'm tied up and I'm I'm a Klingon and I had the mask on
49:32
and it it it she has like the outfit, like it was fun.
49:36
Like I've so I've done that and yeah, done different things.
49:40
Been in clips, I've been in clips, I've been Kod like choked
49:45
out in a clip. That's awesome face.
49:50
Add on. So yeah, it's, it's it's been,
49:52
it's been cool. You have to send me some of
49:55
these links. I got to check this out and
49:57
post. Oh yeah.
49:58
With the. Episode.
49:59
Oh yeah. Definitely, definitely I, I
50:01
definitely will. It's yeah 'cause sometimes it's
50:05
more like you look on like what the boundaries are like, you
50:09
know, there's obviously ones you have too.
50:11
But then it's like, well, hey, maybe I, I can ask.
50:14
It's sometimes it's in the moment, like you're having a
50:16
good session and it's just like, is this cool?
50:20
And it's like, yeah. And so it just kind of it, it,
50:24
it can happen. And it, it's really like, yeah,
50:28
there, it's just, it's crazy. Some of these different stories
50:32
or I, I think of myself like I, I, you know, I am who I am.
50:37
I like who I am, but I'm I'm just an average Joe guy, you
50:41
know? I sell yourself.
50:43
Short. It's more, it's more like I'm
50:46
not flashy. Mine is podcasting.
50:50
I'm that's the only thing you wanted to.
50:53
I wanted everything else. I don't want, I don't want
50:54
attention. At first I'm like, well, there's
50:56
something wrong. But then I'm like, no, that's
50:57
just not who I am. I don't like attention when I've
51:01
been a groomsmen in weddings. I'm like, this is brutal, like
51:04
and people looking at the bride and groom, but I'm like, I'm in
51:06
front of all these people and I'm like, I don't know what that
51:09
feels like to be a bride. Like everyone's looking at you.
51:12
So that podcast is the one thing I'm not like that in.
51:15
So I I kind of, you know, I'll go to a session and if I'm not
51:20
coming from work in like sweats and a hoodie, if it's cold outer
51:24
basketball shorts and AT shirt. And it's like, like I said
51:28
earlier, I start laughing because I'm like, nobody's
51:31
thinking that I am about to do what I'm about to do right now.
51:37
And that just always makes me laugh.
51:38
I'm like, you never know what people want to judge or think.
51:42
Oh, this is the kind of person. And I've had friends say that to
51:45
me. They're like, oh, we went to
51:47
this spot and you knew the strippers or the dump and like,
51:51
really like, they're like, it's just so casual.
51:53
You're just chatting. I go, yeah.
51:54
And they're like, we had no idea.
51:56
I go, I know you didn't like. That's because you didn't want
51:58
to know. Isn't that funny?
52:01
Oh, it always. Cracks me up it is.
52:04
It is so funny. My good friend Bree, she was my
52:07
my sub for several years. You know, we would joke about
52:10
that. We would go in public, we would
52:12
have a client with us. We'd be doing things and people
52:14
would have no clue, you know, that he's got like a butt plug
52:17
up his ass and a hot cage on. Exactly we're just sitting there
52:24
exactly it it's it's the funniest thing and that that was
52:28
the cool part about it like about meeting these Amazons
52:31
towering over me and walking in Center City Philadelphia and
52:36
just like hey, whatever and having great times having great
52:42
conversations. You know, funny Side Story that
52:48
that Jen Thomas story about the Co worker.
52:52
So she we, I did ask her out it, it didn't go great.
52:58
You know, we weren't like that. She became just a friend.
53:01
I wound up introducing her to one of my oldest friends.
53:06
They start dating, they get married, I'm Co best man in
53:10
their wedding and they still marry, have two kids and all
53:12
that stuff. Oh, how cool is that?
53:15
Yeah. Yeah, so that's a cool story.
53:19
Yeah. Yeah, wow.
53:22
You brought love together, I that's why.
53:24
I tell people I'm like, that's that's on my on my resume.
53:27
When I try to hook up like friends, I go, I got a marriage
53:31
and two kids. I go, I help create life, you
53:34
know, I hope life. I'm like, that's, that's, that's
53:38
in my favor here. I know what I'm doing.
53:40
That's. Awesome.
53:42
Yeah. You know, you're super modest.
53:44
You're like, I'm average. No, you're not average.
53:46
D rock. Because quite truthfully, you
53:49
know, as a Dom, we deal with so many just shitty people
53:55
sometimes. And then we just deal with
53:57
people that are just the nicest people.
54:00
And it, to me, it's like they always make the session, you
54:03
know, they, they set what they want in motion, But it's the
54:07
attitude they bring. They, they come to just being
54:11
honest and kind and you know, you can, you can just become the
54:17
best friends with, with people that just come into the dungeon.
54:20
And I've done it, you know, quite a few times.
54:22
I've been very fortunate to meet really great people.
54:25
So I can see you've made this very clear impression on people
54:30
with your kindness and and how well they they connect with you.
54:34
No, I will thank I I that means a lot.
54:37
I really appreciate it. And I think that with sessions
54:42
with the podcast, I, well, you know, people come on the show,
54:45
I'm, I'm like, I, I want to ask interesting questions.
54:47
I'm not going to, I'm not a journalist by trade.
54:50
So I'm not going to promise any the listeners or that person,
54:54
you're going to get the most hard hitting or questions.
54:57
But I'm like, what I can do is always show you respect,
55:01
appreciation, make sure you're comfortable.
55:04
And at least when you someone ask you about the experience,
55:09
you you had a good time and you felt safe and you felt
55:13
comfortable. That's that's all I can
55:14
guarantee. I, I'm not, you know, I'm not
55:16
going to say I'm the next Barbara Walters or anything, but
55:20
like I can, I can do that. And that I think that just goes
55:23
a long way. It just really like.
55:27
Because. People, you know, I tell
55:29
everybody like no one. I'm not owed anything I'm not
55:34
entitled to. I'm not owed your time.
55:36
I'm not mistress me, I'm not old.
55:38
You're like the fact that you reached out wanted me, like I
55:40
you could be doing anything else you want to do.
55:42
So like I don't take that for granted.
55:44
Like that you hey, you're spending.
55:46
You reached out to want to spend this time with me, and it's
55:49
like, why would I come on here and be in wood?
55:52
Oh, no, like, you know, like it's like, no, I appreciate
55:56
that. That's really cool.
55:57
Absolutely. Well, you know, your podcast
55:59
says it's great reviews, great ratings, and, you know, you were
56:05
within the the first like 20 most liked podcast episodes in
56:11
the genre of BDSM. You know, I mean, yeah.
56:14
Oh, I. Didn't even know.
56:16
That yeah, there's yeah, you, you need to research your
56:21
podcast because yeah, you've got you've got like a listing in one
56:26
of the articles. Don't recall but I'll send you
56:30
the link because I was like. I was like.
56:33
Oh yeah, this is really cool. But you know, what's really
56:34
funny is that when I was researching your podcast, your
56:41
podcast in the name, minus the sessions part, it's after hours
56:45
sessions. Well, there's I think there's a
56:48
a podcast, but it's like after session hours or after session.
56:53
It's very close in the wording, I think minus an S or two.
56:57
And I'm like, and it's 3 Harvard professors or doctors and they,
57:04
they talk about, you know, political and it's like
57:08
political and health. And they're like, yeah.
57:11
And I was like, hold on, let me, let me go back to this.
57:14
I I'm not talking to the Harvard people.
57:17
I want to talk about. Next to.
57:20
BDSM with this cool guy named D Rock no the the.
57:25
Well, thank you. You you're dropping a lot of.
57:27
I had no idea. Yeah, about the I like I mine is
57:32
like when some people might reply when I on Twitter, when I
57:35
post like a new episode and tag people in it.
57:39
I people mostly have said nice things.
57:42
I've had some people on like a form say some things and you
57:46
know, that comes with it. So sometimes now I kind of just
57:50
I post it, you know, the episode posted on social media and like
57:55
chips fall where they may. So I I haven't looked at like
57:58
reviews. It's it's probably been 3 going
58:01
on four years. So I had no idea that, but
58:04
that's really cool though. I'm I'm yeah, I'm you got me all
58:08
blushing now. Yeah, See how.
58:09
Modest you are, I had. No clue.
58:12
I was like, oh, OK. Look it up, look it up.
58:16
I'll send you some links. Yeah, I've, I always talk about
58:21
this. I always look at ratings.
58:22
There's, you know, feed spot, There's another one.
58:24
It's called 1,000,000 Millions podcast, but they go back on all
58:28
the ratings and reviews and stuff and it's compilation
58:32
globally. Oh wow.
58:35
I guess because it's weird, because you, you're almost I
58:39
shouldn't speak for anyone else. I'll speak for me like tricking
58:42
myself because if there's one thing I'm kind of confident in
58:46
is like podcasting, like I think like, yeah, I'm not saying I'm
58:49
great, but like I feel pretty comfortable.
58:51
Like I they're different than other parts of my life, but it's
58:55
still like, I'm confident. But I'm still like, well, who
58:59
the Hell's going to listen to me, though?
59:00
I'm not like famous. So then when you meet somebody
59:04
in this podcast, I do two other shows, but this podcast in
59:07
particular meeting people in like the wild say like, Oh yeah,
59:12
I like this show. It's really weird cuz I'm like,
59:15
oh, well, thank you. And then I'm like, get ready to
59:19
walk away and I go, can I ask you why or what about it?
59:23
Like just so I like, I know like, alright, keep doing this
59:26
or whatever, cuz I'm just like, why do you listen to me?
59:29
Like it's it's a weird like mind fuck in a way it.
59:36
It really, it really can be honestly, because for the
59:40
longest time I didn't do video podcasts and I do what's called
59:43
Fucked Up Fridays where, you know, I'll have the DOMS and
59:46
they'll basically either beat the shit out of somebody who
59:50
wants it, you know, or we do like electrical Play or, you
59:55
know, CBT. We do things that we have to
59:57
keep, you know, Spotify happy, right?
1:00:02
Right. Right, right.
1:00:03
You know. So it's usually geared towards
1:00:05
men. And, you know, 83% of my
1:00:08
listeners, they're men, and I know they want to see us, you
1:00:12
know, do this some hot chicks. But Spotify don't want us to
1:00:16
beat up hot chicks. Yeah, I'm.
1:00:19
They love the video. Yeah, I'm, I was.
1:00:21
Going to say I'm sure you get it because you've been doing this
1:00:26
and are are known. So it's like, I wonder I'll I'll
1:00:29
sometimes ask the guests, but I, I can ask you, how is that
1:00:33
weird? When like if people like in
1:00:35
like, I would say, you know, the public, the wild, like recognize
1:00:40
you or notice you like, are you used to that now?
1:00:43
Is that still kind of trip you up when they know like you as
1:00:47
like Mistress? Well, you know, in the King
1:00:50
community, people that come to my parties or they know me, they
1:00:55
all listen to the podcast, you know, and they'll, they'll write
1:00:59
me or they'll talk to me or text me.
1:01:01
But yeah. So when people approach me with
1:01:04
Ohio, yeah, I really like that episode.
1:01:07
You know, it makes me feel good because the episodes that I try
1:01:11
to to talk about, I want to normalize BDSMI, want to
1:01:16
normalize people with, you know, the wrestling fetish or, you
1:01:20
know, you know, there's that fetish where it's like verbal
1:01:24
humiliation and degradation. But they they want to be little
1:01:28
small, miniature people. You know, they want to be, you
1:01:31
know, stuffed in a woman's mouth.
1:01:33
And, you know, I mean, just the oddest things, but it's like,
1:01:37
why can't we normalize this? You know, it's like we're not
1:01:40
talking about horrible things and hurting people.
1:01:43
You know, we're talking about, you know, just fun things that
1:01:48
enhance our lives. And, you know, you can do that
1:01:51
through BDSM. And that was the whole point of
1:01:54
destigmatizing BDSM and why I do the show.
1:01:57
And so when people talk about it, they're like, I just had a
1:02:00
woman. She commented on Fetlife when I
1:02:04
posted the episode. And I don't know if you have a
1:02:07
Fetlife account, I do. I do OK we.
1:02:10
Need to connect on there and then, you know, I'll share your
1:02:13
episodes. You can post your links on that
1:02:16
on Fetlife and more people can, you know, check out your
1:02:19
podcast, you know? Oh, great.
1:02:21
Yeah. She commented on Fetlife and she
1:02:23
said to me, you know, it was so great that you you talked about
1:02:27
PDS and being therapeutic and cathartic.
1:02:31
And that just means so much. Yeah.
1:02:34
Because that's why we do the podcast, so we can educate
1:02:38
people and talk about our experiences and, you know,
1:02:41
normalize what feels normal to us.
1:02:46
Absolutely, I I could talk any, any.
1:02:49
And you, you got to come on my show, too.
1:02:52
Absolutely. Whatever.
1:02:53
Yeah, I love them. Yeah, that'd.
1:02:55
Be great, that'd be great. But no, this was, this was
1:02:58
incredible good. Same.
1:03:00
It was a lot of fun. So aside from that, you know,
1:03:06
this has been great. It's been so much fun.
1:03:09
I mean, talking about just like I said, like minded people when
1:03:13
it comes to BDSM and knowing the experiences that we've shared,
1:03:19
you know, through different experiences, that's what's
1:03:21
important in this lifestyle, you know?
1:03:24
Absolutely, absolutely. It's always great to to connect
1:03:28
and like you said, shared experiences and, and make make
1:03:31
friendships. Honestly, it's it's, it's a
1:03:33
great thing, absolutely. Yeah, we're going to have to do
1:03:36
this again, and you'll have to tell me some more, especially if
1:03:39
you see any new Doms lately. Oh.
1:03:42
Yeah, I, I can go on and on. I, I was, I try to be mindful
1:03:47
that that like I said, ADHDI when I'm, when I'm in it, you
1:03:51
know, 20 minutes can turn into four hours real quick, but I'm
1:03:55
having a good time. So I try to watch that.
1:03:58
But I, I got stories galore. You know, mistress, it's just
1:04:02
more you got to tell me how hot and spicy you want them or not,
1:04:05
but I got them. Oh, the dirtier the better, OK.
1:04:09
That so next time we'll do the the the The Dirty because I can
1:04:13
just give you some some really good spicy stories there we can
1:04:16
do. That so.
1:04:18
That's that's fun, I look. Forward to it.
1:04:20
D Rock, thanks again. It's been a pleasure meeting
1:04:22
you. And yeah, send me some some of
1:04:27
your links and I'll connect it to the episode.
1:04:30
Absolutely, absolutely love that.
1:04:32
And yeah, and I'll definitely find you on Fetlife.
1:04:35
Perfect. Yeah, I'm Mistress Mia Ray.
1:04:37
I'll send it over to you. I'll screenshot it for you.
1:04:40
Awesome. OK.
1:04:42
All right. Yeah.
1:04:42
Thank you. Thank you.
1:04:44
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