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Caring For A Sick Cat · Back In The Closet - Two Crazy Cat Ladies

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I'm Jay, I'm Adrian, and together we are.
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That's crazy girl. Ladies, I'm.
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Gonna cut you? I think I just peed.
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Buckle up. We're back in the closet.
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Welcome. To another episode of Back in
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the Closet with the 2 Crazy Cat ladies.
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For those of you guys that are joining us live, we apologize
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for the bags under our eyes. So we have spent this past
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weekend at the ER vet with our sweet Madison Grace, our little
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calico Kitty. And this episode is going to be
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a little bit of a a story. A back story of what what
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happened and why. And then also.
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What we think. Why or what we think?
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Why? And then also the but what we're
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doing right, what we're doing to help heal her because she is she
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is on the road to A, to a swift. Ridge.
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Beautiful recovery right now. I want to start though by saying
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thank you. You guys have no idea when we
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were, we were posting stories just keeping everyone posted
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because our whole schedule changed and we needed to let
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everyone know what was going on. Just the prayers, the support,
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the affirmation, the. Man, you guys never.
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The. You never disappoint.
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The advice you guys were giving us the oh.
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My God, we use so much of it because when you're in like fear
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mode and in that kind of emergency situation, things that
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you might think of, you don't. Right.
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And we'll tell you guys a little bit about some of that too,
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which is very interesting. But yeah, when it's your cat,
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like we, we help people 24 hours a day, seven days a week, right?
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Like we help cat parents. That's what we get the most joy
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out of is helping you help your cats.
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And we given advices like it's, it's easy to us, but when it
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comes to our own cats, it's like your brain just like shuts off
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and you don't even know what all you need to do.
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And you, you guys apply unless. You tell the story because our
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brains were not necessarily functioning.
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I want to start. With or are they functioning
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right now? No.
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So we're going. To do our best to forget.
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This all started about 4:00 AM Friday morning.
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We we Thursday night we had a bestie night.
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We actually had like a breath work session on Thursday.
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We were trying to learn how to breathe because it's.
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Been because it's been really stressful.
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This isn't like the first emergency, it's the first cat
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emergency this year. But we've had family emergencies
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going on also, along with for the past month and a half.
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We've either been like at a hospital or at a, at a
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convention basically right. Like it's, it's just been, it's
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been really busy and really stressful.
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And so we were doing this breath work session, which was
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beautiful. And then, and then we.
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Didn't have any food in the fridge because we still haven't
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done grocery shopping since Super Zoo and Missy, our bestie,
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is our shipping manager and we said let's just go out to Joey's
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which is this little Tavern that has great food.
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A great DJ. Great DJ we.
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Get to watch some Little League. Right our our Little League in
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Nevada, yeah, they won the national championship, they lost
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in the world, but fine. But we we got home and then we
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decided to have a couple more drinks because which is a bad
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idea too many Jack and gingers. We went to bed around 11:30 and
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and incidentally, Madison had her dinner at 5 O clock about 5
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O clock on Thursday night. When we got home around 9:30 she
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was having a little crunchy munchies and we went to bed at
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11:30 and 4:00 O clock in the morning.
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I bolt out of bed to this sound and it I don't even know how to
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describe. It, it was like a, it was like a
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very loud quack, like a like. A and I thought it was it.
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Was it was because so when she came down she saw puke literally
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everywhere, right? Like foam puke.
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There was a hairball puke, some food puke like a like a
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different pukes but every like. A dozen spots and I was like,
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what is happening? Yeah.
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And she had already, so at that point she had already dehydrated
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herself. So have you ever puked like when
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you're puking and there's like nothing left to come up?
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That was the sound, right? Except for it was a cat instead
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of a human. So it sounded like a duck.
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Like a loud duck. A terrible, loud duck and
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there's a lot going on. There was.
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Unfortunately, there was a the Panthers were on full alert.
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Jack was big, wide eyes. I didn't know who was made.
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I thought it was Jack making the sound and Jack was just big wide
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eyes. Madison was actually sitting
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there at the bottom of the stairs when I first came
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downstairs and I'm looking for Jack's.
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I thought the Panthers aren't full of lurk.
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There was a new cat that I've never seen in our backyard.
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I was like, what is happening? Are they?
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Right, like and totally like out of bed sleep.
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Not with a little bit too much whiskey, too much Jack and
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ginger. Yeah.
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And but then I hear Madison make this like sound and I see a
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little bit of foam on her chin. And I was like, Oh my God.
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And then she just came over and laid down and her respirations
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were super, super high. Yeah, And by the time I came
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down, she was just kind of curled and waiting in the corner
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of the kitchen, like I I don't know what.
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And Adrian's like, we're going to the hospital and I'm like,
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all right, let's let's, let's go, let's go.
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So we get to the we luckily we just watched this new 24 hour
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vet clinic be built close to our home, so where we like
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frequently shop and eat dinner and things like that.
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And we were like, oh, that's really cool because of the you
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guys know, if you've been with us for any amount of time of
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like our Pooh Bear situation, whenever there's been an
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emergency, we don't get a lot of emergencies.
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But when there's an emergency that that number that we have in
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our head that we can call is like closed now like or they're
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no longer 24 hour clinic, you know, like the.
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Nearest 24 hour emergency vet is about 3035 minutes from us.
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Yeah, so that's a long time to spend in a car with a cut that
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is. So we were so grateful to know
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that this 24 hour clip, James said Friday was national Take
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Your Cat to the Vet day. I think you overbid it a bit.
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Yes. So we were very excited.
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Grateful that this place was like 10 minutes away.
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And we knew exactly where it was.
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So it was. It wasn't like we had to look,
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but. We didn't know anything about
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this clinic, so I'm I'm just holding her in the car as Jay's
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driving didn't put her in the carrier.
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Jay brought the carrier with us, but we walk in and there's a
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receptionist that you walk into this huge room and there's a
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receptionist this desk and then there's exam tables all over the
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place and a couple little couches and, and there's nobody
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there. There's nobody there.
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It's now it's about 4/24/30 in the morning and all they said
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was triage and they said bring her here.
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And usually when you go to an emergency vet, they take your
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baby and they go to the back and then you wait, agonizing wait,
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to find out what are they doing, what's going on.
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And then all you can do is go home and and wait for a phone
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call, right? Like we're going to have to put
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her on fluids or here's the estimate or here's the, you
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know, like any anytime. They triage right in front of
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us. They checked her vitals, they
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checked her gums. They checked her throat.
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They let us hold her. While they were doing
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everything. They drew her blood guys and it
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was like black, like she was so dehydrated.
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It was, it was super, super dark and, and.
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And it was hard to draw the blood.
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It was hard to draw the blood they.
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Let us hold her and, and I have to give a shout out to these
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vets and nurses. It's called.
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Veg and they're like a chain, like they're everywhere so.
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It's veterinary emergency group. Yeah, yeah, Patty Veg is great.
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I have so many of you guys have reached out after we posted that
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on our stories that that that's the clinic that we were at.
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So many of you guys have reached out and been like Oh my God,
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yes. Or looked up.
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We didn't even know what open concept was.
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They like so many people have like looked it up immediately
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and they found one near then and they're like, Oh my God.
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Blair today at our meeting. She was 133 miles away.
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Wonderful. This what it got.
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There's so many, so we got to be with her.
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So they brought her and they triaged her right in front of
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us. She was still had.
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She wasn't vomiting anymore. Thank God she was.
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Her respirations are so really high.
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She was obviously very, very sick.
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They put us in a waiting room for a second.
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They said we need to do a blood draw, we need to do X-rays, we
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need to like what is going on. And I told them, you know, there
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was all this vomit everywhere. I actually found hair balls are
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so rare in our house. I found what I thought was when
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I was trying to clean up at 4:00 in the morning trying to figure
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out what's going on. I found this hairball that was
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really like it. At first I thought it was poop.
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You guys not to be too TMI but it was like this dark dense
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hairball and I saw it was hair and it had some freeze dried
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food around it and at the end of it it looked like it had been
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ripped off and I was like what the hell honestly.
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Truth be told, I put it in a bag and I brought it with us.
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But she didn't take it out of the car, and that's a different
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story for another day because that turned into a disaster the
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following day. When it's 110° in Vegas and you
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leave it baking in a car, it smells like you killed.
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Smells like you have a. So they triage her in front of
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us and then they do the X-rays. The X-rays comes back and they
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said. She has a mask in her stomach.
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Yeah. And so we're like, I mean,
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immediately I was thinking, OK, how could she eat?
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Like, she's not a Friday, right? Like our Friday, our girl
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Friday, she, she will, she will consume plastic.
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And she, she, you know, when she was younger, she would eat
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strings and like the scary stuff, right?
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Madison is not that type of cat, right?
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Like, I mean, all like all of our cats will, you know, they'll
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sniff around at the stuff on the ground.
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And we haven't been very good at keeping the house clean because
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we've been so busy. So we haven't been like watching
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everything. So I thought maybe there's
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something and you know, it's. Or something like.
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That like they bring in feathers from outside, from the birds
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outside like that they get into the patio.
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Like maybe she ate something like that.
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And what is this mass in her stomach?
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Yeah, and they said we have to put her on fluid therapy and
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then and wait and then we'll we'll do another X-ray and then
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luckily we are close with some beautiful veterinarians and have
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them on text. And they were right there for
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us. I could cry right now right
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there for us immediately and and said, you know, you need a, you
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need to get an ultrasound and. You need to get, you know the
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things. That the the different things
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that like my brain definitely wasn't working at this point and
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at 5:00 in the morning, these beautiful souls are texting us
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back. I know we don't all have that,
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but that's why we're telling you what we did so that you guys can
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maybe be better equipped if you're ever in emergency
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situation as well and kind of get the the gist of, you know,
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what your mind goes through if you haven't been through an
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emergency like this. But so they put her on IV
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fluids. So now it's about 6:30 in the
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morning and they very sweetly said, basically, you know, this
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is obviously a critical situation.
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We really don't yet know what's going on.
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I don't know if you guys need to be at work or whatever.
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We're like, Oh no, we're staying with her and we're just sitting
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on a bench in this huge room while we're waiting on radiology
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to come back. We're waiting on room and we're
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like, yeah. And then you can see like
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there's like 5 or 6, four or five, I don't know, rooms.
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I thought they were exam rooms. And you can see like a little
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couch in there and. They have an exam table they.
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Sure, the day that pulls down it's up against the wall pulls
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down. So I thought they were exam
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rooms. But there's little couches in
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there and we're like, OK, like it would be great if she's going
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to be on IV fluids for a while, but just hold her and let's
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let's try to curl up on this little on this little couch and.
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Right. And it was cold in there for a
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second to me and my PJS. It was cold for me.
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So we we said, Oh my God, a room that would be awesome.
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We're thinking we'll just go into an exam room and wait with
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her on a little plastic chair, whatever, that little couch that
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we saw. And they said, OK, give us a
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minute. 15 minutes later, they said your room is ready.
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Madison's on her IV now, so I'm holding the carrier.
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Jay's moving the pole. We go into this room.
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That little couch that's in there pulls out into a double
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bed. They put sheets on it.
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They put a comforter on it. They made the bed down.
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They had two pillows there. There was this huge, like for a
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huge dog with huge crate with a litter box and blankets in
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there. And they said she doesn't need
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to stay in the crate. You know, if she gets squirrely,
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you might want to put her in there so she doesn't tug on her
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IV. But you're welcome to keep her
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on the bed with you. And we were like, what is
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better? Than a than a human ER clinic
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guy like my mom. Recently we have been in the ER
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quite a few times because of family emergencies, right?
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The human ER and there's like no room to like there's one like
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one chair for one other person sitting down for hours and
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hours. You rotate back and forth or you
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just stand. What is happening?
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And it felt amazing because A, we still have leftovers from the
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Jack and Gingers that we had, B, the, the staff there was just
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absolutely incredible. We just.
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Apologize and we're like, we know we're sorry.
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Yeah, we're sorry. And we, Kate and Lola, I love
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you guys. And so we go into this room and
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now we're waiting, because now we're waiting for.
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I can't remember what we were waiting for at that point.
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We're just waiting for the IV fluids and then and we're
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waiting for the next vet to come in because they did, they did
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the, the, it was the night shift and then the day shift, right.
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So we're waiting for the day shift to come in to order more
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tests and, and talk to the, the new vet that's going to be with
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her probably all day. We.
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We. So they were coming in, they
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were taking her vitals like every hour and they brought her
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back out to do the vitals. They let us be with her.
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Got you guys have any idea how difficult it is to take a cat's
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blood pressure? It was unbelievable.
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It's something that like blew my mind.
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So all the vitals, every What are you looking at here, baby
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girl? That for your sister?
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Yeah. So I we have this room and then
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they're coming in every hour checking on us, checking on her.
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And they did it. They.
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Did. Right.
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The day shift came in, we got to order the ultrasound and the
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spec FPL or FLPI, can't remember what it is now but basically to
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rule out pancreatitis or to check.
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Her first blood, her first blood panel came back.
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Everything was angry. Her kidney levels were crazy,
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her liver was out of and her life, my pace was through the
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roof. So we knew that she was in
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pancreatitis. So we're like, what is going on?
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And there's a mass in her stomach.
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So then when day shift came in, they're like obviously the most,
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the biggest concern here is what is this?
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You know, we, they, we ordered the ultrasound.
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They were hoping that they were going to be fast, but turns out
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he couldn't be there until like 1:30 or 2:00 in the afternoon.
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It's 8:00 in the morning. And what if that mass starts
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moving and then it gets into a small intestine And now we're in
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full blown emergency surgery, all that stuff.
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So we thank God, Doctor, Doctor Ella Brock is her name Ella
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Brock. We kept, we kept calling her
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Doctor Broccolini. She was like, you know, this is
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my cat. And incidentally, most of these
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veterinarians there had one or two cats the way that they they
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knew how to handle. Cats.
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That was awesome because it was incredible.
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You don't see a lot of and she said, obviously the concern here
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is that mass, if it is moving, you know, maybe it's cancer and
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maybe it's not going to move and maybe we're dealing with
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something else. But if it is a foreign object
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and it's a balled up string or it's a toy or something, if it
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starts moving into the small intestine, then we're in full
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blown emergency. Maybe we should do an endoscopy.
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Maybe we should go in and see if we can pull it out.
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And so by this time, a couple hours have gone by and we
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basically opted to do another. X-ray and that's to wait on the
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on the ultrasound. And Jay asked, she was like,
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well, since the ultrasound Dr. can't be here for many hours,
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that could be scary. If we could get our primary,
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which is Doctor Anna to if she has the capability to do an
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ultrasound, could we bring her there and see?
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Because we really need to see what's going on with her
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pancreas and her organs and this mass.
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And she was like, yeah, if, if they have the capability, she
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said I could do it. She said, I'm not a trained
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technician. I have another doctor here that
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could assist. But we were like, Oh my God,
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yes, let's let's do that. That the mask was.
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Yeah, but it seemed smaller, like the IT wasn't.
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One doctor saw it and the other doctor was like, it looks like
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it's gone. Like I don't see it anymore.
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So. So we're like, OK, this is kind
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of like this is hopeful. At least we feel like we're
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moving. Somewhere here, fluid therapy.
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So now we're going like 6 hours. Later, yeah.
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And then they were like, OK, now we can do another X-ray.
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They did another X-ray and the mass was gone.
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It had dissipated into like granules, right?
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So then it was more like a. Particles in her small
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intestine, so it had it kind of dissolved and so that was a huge
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relief. Obviously, she's still pretty
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critical. She's very sick.
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She. Oh, she was, I mean, she is the
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best cat guys. Like, I mean, you know, you
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never know, like your cat can be like an Angel at home, but then
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you take him to the vet and sometimes they turn into like
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some crazy. And the vets, like the vet.
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Yeah, of course. Like a scared cat, right.
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But the, the, the everyone, all the nurses, the vets, everyone
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was like, she is a perfect Angel.
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The only thing that they had to warn each other about when they
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would like come in or switch shifts or whatnot is that she
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was what they call Perch or which, if you guys follow us on
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social media, you see her very often on Adrian's head because
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that's where she likes to sit on her shoulders or on our heads,
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and she was doing that. With even when she wasn't
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feeling well, even when she wasn't be held, she wants to be
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on you right. So the second X-ray remember
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the. But never a hiss.
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She didn't hiss once she didn't she didn't like reach out or
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like scratch or bite or any of the stuff that you know most So
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I would probably be doing. We were really, we were really
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excited for the X-ray came back that the mass had dissipated.
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So no cancer. It, it wasn't like a toy or
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something, which is someone like Madison, but she was, we decided
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to do another blood test and now we're like 12 hours in.
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So we did their blood test. Her levels were starting to
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normalize. Her kidneys were looking better.
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Her liver was looking better. Starting her life base was
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looking better. Numbers were starting to come.
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Down with the fluid therapy, right?
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But they were like, we definitely need to keep her
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overnight. And she wasn't eating anything.
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And she wasn't eating anything. And she pooped herself.
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And the ultrasound showed also that like her pancreas was very
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angry. Her other organs were great.
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Her, her pancreas was, was very angry and her GI tract was
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sitting still like there was no motility, right?
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Like it wasn't it wasn't moving through.
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So the IT basically whatever. Like I don't even know how this
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works but whatever happened like inflamed her pancreas and like
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messed up her her GI tract really bad.
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So they're like, we definitely need to keep her overnight with
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fluid therapy. You guys are welcome to stay.
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What I mean just unbelievable. So at that point I ran home,
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took a shower, changed out of my PJS and I came back to stays
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because Jane went back to feed the other babies.
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Thank God Missy was here. Missy took care of their lunch
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and all all that stuff. And and Missy is basically our
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babies all love their Aunt Missy so much.
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So it was wonderful that she was here helping to keep things
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normal on the home front. And so I went back, spent the
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night, have such. Respect.
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Incredible respect for these people.
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There were so many emergencies that came in that night and yes,
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I'm in a room, but you can hear everything and these beautiful
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people handled everything it just like they handled us.
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It was just sorry about that. We forgot to go on DND.
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They were, it was just a real, it was a beautiful experience
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for a horrible issue, right so. And they came in, you know,
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almost every hour to check on us.
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They came in. They had to do they wanted to
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check her electrolytes. It was like 1:30 in the morning.
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Yeah. So we were doing all the tests,
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right? Like we're just doing all this
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stuff and things to figure out what we need to do and how to
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move forward. So, so then we keep Saturday
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morning, Saturday. Jay comes back and we're now
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looking at we've got to get her to eat.
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So they were like we need to do an appetite and they were.
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Giving her anti nausea. They they were giving her anti
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nausea, they were giving her gabapentin for the pain they
21:04
were giving her basically like it was chalky.
21:07
Something to help? Throat, you could tell her.
21:10
Blood in the last vomit. Yeah, and her throat really hurt
21:13
so and then and then her and then something some medicine
21:17
starts with an MI can't remember what the name of it is that that
21:20
helped to move the the GI tract start getting stuff moving
21:25
through. She pooped herself once as like
21:29
as soon as Adrian left and that's when they found out that
21:32
she's raw fed and and then that kind of cause concern on on
21:39
their end, but we're fine. And then we and then OK, so then
21:46
I come back the next day. The issue is still she's not
21:48
eating and we have to wait and do more fluid therapy and wait
21:51
for the next blood test. So we get and they.
21:56
Really didn't want to sleep without her.
21:59
Eating right. But then it was also like a 5050
22:02
chance, right? Like some cats are.
22:05
And everybody said that's the, the, our friends who are
22:07
veterinarians in the industry, our like the, the veterinarians
22:11
there, everybody was, everybody said, you know, really when it
22:16
comes to cats, it's like a 5050 chance they're not eating
22:19
because they're in the clinic or they're not eating because they
22:21
don't feel well. So you have the option after we
22:25
go through this last blood test and see like do you want to take
22:30
her home and see if she'll eat there and feel better or do we
22:34
want to keep her here and possibly put in a feeding tube?
22:39
And at this point, we, we with our one brain cell between the
22:45
two of us at like 2 nights no sleep.
22:49
And now we're what, five nights no sleep?
22:52
We said let's, let's take, let's take the chance, let's take her
22:57
home because if it doesn't get better, we can take her back.
22:59
But let's, let's get her into her environment and see if, see
23:03
if we can do something. Her last blood test came back
23:05
and her neutrophils were like. Soon.
23:09
Were bottomed out. Like so which I.
23:12
I had never even like known about this before, right?
23:15
So this was basically an indicator of infection because
23:18
all of her organs were so inflamed, there was like
23:21
basically back. So we're contaminating other
23:23
things that there's bacteria that can get into places.
23:26
Yes, Judith, that's it. The best.
23:31
Yes. I think that.
23:33
I think that is it. We What are we talking?
23:38
About I don't know we no her neutrophils.
23:45
So her neutrophils were super low, which indicated infection.
23:48
Even though her white blood cell count was alarming wasn't
23:52
alarming and all the numbers were her ALT was like skyrocket
23:56
like it was really high on her first one.
23:58
It came down on the second one. It was, it was getting like
24:02
almost to normal by the third one blood test.
24:06
And so, so he, the, the new Doctor that was there the next
24:12
day shift doctor said that he's worried about an infection in
24:17
the, in the GI tract. And he recommended that we take
24:22
an antibiotic home or that they give her an antibiotic.
24:26
And, and then he started talking about raw food.
24:29
And he was, he started talking about like little raw feeding
24:32
and I and, and like, oh, and that's probably it's, it's
24:34
probably because. You know, salmonella, E coli,
24:36
whatever, right? Which other one here knows that
24:39
you know there have been contamination issues are a thing
24:42
in food for sure. But that wasn't this situation,
24:46
and we knew that from the beginning.
24:49
There was a matter. And and so we weren't
24:51
necessarily concerned about that, but we were concerned
24:53
about with her organs just being so disrupted.
24:56
And her just like being such a little like poor helpless baby
25:04
Angel. Right, but still neutrophils.
25:06
So I'm. Supposed to be at like 2700 and
25:09
they were like at 130. Yeah.
25:11
It was really. We were freaked out, but we
25:13
still decided to go home. We got her home, Yeah.
25:16
And. And I asked the vet, I said, so
25:20
could we do this? Could we bring her home and not
25:23
fill the antibiotic yet? But if we, if we don't see her
25:27
eating, if, if we're not seeing any kind of improvement, maybe
25:30
just in the next few hours I can come back and get that
25:33
antibiotic. Is that something we can do?
25:35
And he was like, absolutely, yes.
25:37
Like this was like 5 or 6:00 on Saturday night and by 8:00 PM we
25:43
were freaked out. We were freaking out.
25:44
Because she's she was still drooling and I was like the
25:47
gabapentin man, like, I don't know.
25:49
But she I mean different cats react differently to.
25:51
She but she was staying so still, you know, like when you
25:53
don't feel good, you're just like, let's stay, let's stay
25:55
really still and maybe it'll just go away.
25:57
And that's how she was so sick. She was just.
26:00
Really not feeling well. So then I, we, we got to talk to
26:03
one of our beautiful veterinarian friends as well,
26:06
who I sent, I was sending the blood work over to every time we
26:09
got, you know, any of the charts and everything.
26:11
I was just sending it over. And she also said that those
26:15
neutrophils are scary. And if it were her, she would go
26:18
ahead with the antibiotic. So I called the vet and I'm
26:20
like, hey, can we go ahead and fill the antibiotic?
26:22
And they said, yes, it'll be ready in 20 minutes.
26:25
Went back also and this is where it gets exciting because once
26:31
you know like there's a mixture I think when it when it comes to
26:34
especially emergency situations, right like we're not anti
26:37
medicine, but like some people think that like anything anybody
26:41
that is all about natural, you know, there's other vets that
26:43
like. Do that they don't like
26:44
conventional. They do videos about us and like
26:47
they don't know what they're talking about.
26:48
Whatever. Like it's not that we are anti
26:50
medicine at all. We need medicine.
26:52
We need our veterinarians right? Like we need emergency in,
26:57
especially in these emergency situations, we need this help
27:00
and we are very grateful for this help.
27:02
But when it gets to a point where we can mix in our, you
27:07
know, more natural holistic measures and maybe start cutting
27:13
out some of that chemical, you know, more toxic stuff, then
27:18
maybe we can get there, right. So I, so we said yes, let's go
27:22
ahead and get the antibiotic and we're giving her the
27:24
antibiotics. So she's getting the syringe of
27:27
the antibiotic every 12 hours right now still.
27:31
And on top of that, we got let's just I'll show you because we
27:35
had, we brought it all upstairs because it's been sitting on our
27:37
island for the past like. Our island is not like our our
27:42
office. Our medicine office, So, so we
27:46
got Sacrumice's Boulardi, of course, for for the gut health,
27:52
we got slippery Elm. Everyone that we talked to in
27:55
the industry was like you need slippery Elm.
27:58
So I ran out. I got both of these.
28:00
I don't know why we didn't have, I thought we had slippery Elm,
28:02
but we didn't have an Epilardi. We might we, our supplement
28:05
cabinet needs to be organized and cleaned, but got new.
28:09
It's fine. So so we I went out and got
28:12
remedies. I got so they sent us home with
28:16
these two medications. This one is the oh Mira Taz.
28:20
So this is the appetite stimulant.
28:23
It's a transdermal appetite stimulant that they used in the
28:27
vet's office once and it didn't work.
28:31
It didn't work. It started it.
28:32
Her. Her ears started busting blood
28:34
vessels. Yeah, so it was a little scary.
28:37
We haven't opened this yet. And then they sent us home with
28:39
Serenia. As many of you guys know, it's
28:42
the anti nausea medicine. We haven't opened that yet
28:44
either. And I don't know that well if we
28:47
won't, not for her, at least not this time around.
28:50
So what I picked up instead was Nux Vomica 200C.
28:54
So that would that is A and I got this at Sprouts, like our
28:58
local health store that we shop at for our groceries.
29:02
And this is anti nausea. So I got this and then I got
29:06
arnica, which you guys, probably everybody knows what arnica is.
29:10
And I got the 200 C per doctor Katie Woodley's advice.
29:15
So we had that here. But the 30C knife is 200.
29:19
So for pain, right? So we got that.
29:22
And then we had so many other tools in our toolbox already at
29:25
home. We mixed we, you know, we, we
29:28
mixed those into these little solutions and named them.
29:32
So we got to accept. The.
29:35
So we know what is what. We use B12 for that.
29:38
Why didn't we? We're talking to the natural pet
29:44
doctor, Doctor Kitty Woodley on the phone and she's like, and
29:49
we're talking about appetite stimulant.
29:50
And when they said appetite stimulant, I was like, what
29:53
natural? I know, we know.
29:55
Natural appetite stimulants. What brains are?
29:57
This is where your brain goes, right?
29:58
I'm like, what? Natural appetite stimulant?
30:01
I know we, I know, we know of them.
30:04
She's like, get your B12 for the appetite stimulant.
30:07
Yeah. I mean, we tell, like I said at
30:10
the beginning it we would tell you guys absolutely use this as
30:14
an appetite stimulant, but in the moment we completely forgot
30:18
that we have this tool in our toolbox, a hundreds of this in
30:22
our toolbox in our shop. So so started using that.
30:27
That I think was like the game changer.
30:31
Once we got even just that first shot of we did a mixture, right?
30:36
So we did the the catalyst, which is that antioxidant and
30:41
digestive enzymes super important if you got
30:43
pancreatitis like it's super important, right?
30:46
It's not only going to Those antioxidant enzymes help to
30:48
reduce the inflammation in the pancreas, but pancreas can't
30:51
make those digestive enzymes when it's so inflamed like that.
30:54
So. We're, we're helping the body in
30:56
so many ways. So we mix these two.
30:59
We, we were mixing Vira X as well because that is a natural.
31:04
It's like nature's antibiotic. So we're like, well, let's go
31:06
ahead and you know. Super super do this like little
31:08
ramekin. We mix up the beach while the
31:10
Nux bomb. The all the liquid ones.
31:13
And then we syringe that and then Saturday night we did have
31:16
to because the antibiotic needed at least a little bit of food.
31:20
So yeah, I went to a Whole Foods and I got some some of the like
31:24
baby food, the meat based baby food.
31:28
And we had a syringe feeder. And we had a syringe feeder to
31:31
get her to and and in that is where we would put the powder
31:34
supplements right is in the food and then we would have a liquid
31:38
shot that we made. Then we started it was.
31:41
It wasn't until the next day but we started the adored Beast
31:44
Liver tonic also. Something everyone should have
31:46
on. Here everybody should have on
31:47
hand, and I am so grateful that we did.
31:49
Oh my God. But we started.
31:51
That is here. Oh my.
31:53
God, you're a secret. Planet I love you so much so so
32:00
we had the we had the adored beast liver tonic.
32:03
So we got we got her started on that.
32:05
She still wasn't pooping if you guys like for those of you guys
32:08
that follow our stories like we were a little worried about the
32:11
pooping thing. So we started putting the cocoa
32:16
therapy coconut oil in there so we can start like kind of moving
32:19
a little bit of things through and we and we're like, OK, we're
32:22
going to we're taking this into our own hands.
32:24
We've got this. The first night when we got her
32:28
home was the scariest, right? Because it's like, OK, I got to
32:33
tell myself that we're doing all of the right things.
32:36
And I know that we're doing all of the right things, but seeing
32:42
her still not what to move, seeing her still not eating at
32:48
first, seeing her still not pooping, not moving around much,
32:52
this was it was it was hard. It was another sleepless night.
32:56
Oh God. Shout out to Laura Lee too,
32:59
because he also put. And Karen Dindy Smith, right.
33:03
So of course we, we, we, we've got a tribe.
33:05
And we're so grateful that we have such a beautiful tribe of
33:09
beautiful humans in this industry.
33:12
And we all work together in all our different ways to help
33:15
support each other. And it is literally the most
33:19
beautiful thing ever. And so both Karen Dindy Smith
33:23
and Laura Lee Medley are are canine herbalist now that we
33:28
just did with Moon Mojo, canine herbalist, feline herbalist Rita
33:34
Hogan was also helping. So, so you know, we're we're
33:37
talking to all of our friends. They were sending energy
33:40
connecting with our with Madison, seeing where she was
33:43
at, what might be going on. Like all of this was happening
33:46
at the same time. And we were just so grateful
33:49
that we have we have such a, a beautiful support group.
33:53
And then all of you with all of your.
33:56
And I just say so and I'm going to mess up the name so I'm going
34:00
to try but there is a a sound frequency.
34:04
That someone sent us so on. So somebody DM Ed us because
34:07
we're posting our stories, right?
34:08
Somebody DM Ed us. I I don't know your I don't know
34:12
the real name. It was Ali, Ali something,
34:15
something. But thank you so much.
34:18
She said, I don't know if you believe in frequencies.
34:20
And we're like, oh, yeah, we do. We've got like all the woo woo
34:23
going. And she's like, I don't know if
34:25
you believe in frequencies, but. And she told us a little story
34:28
about how her cat wouldn't eat it through a sickness and how
34:31
she played this specific frequency music that helps to
34:37
increase appetite. And so I was like, thank you.
34:41
Yes, we will absolutely try that.
34:42
We played that for the first, like we played it at the doctor,
34:46
at the clinic, and then we played it when we got home,
34:49
literally like almost 24 hours. Yeah, almost stopped yesterday.
34:52
Oh yeah. And then I went into the the
34:54
sound the sound bad thing sound bath.
34:55
So she's got sound bad feeling, but and then someone else said
34:59
because we still get so now so Saturday night we had a syringe
35:02
feeder. We gave her the antibiotic.
35:04
Next morning she's still not eating.
35:06
She still hasn't made any deposits and we have to syringe
35:09
feed her again and give her the next dose of antibiotic.
35:11
And if someone at that point DM D us and said have you tried
35:16
sardines? Does what is wrong?
35:19
Yeah, we have those in our pantries.
35:21
I haven't. Jay open it up and you have no
35:24
idea the joy to watch her. We we have tried giving we went
35:28
shopping y'all. We tried to get her to
35:31
everything, tried to get her to eat anything.
35:34
Sardines. Sardines and sound, sardines,
35:38
sound and supplements. I would say that with the the
35:41
B12 mixed with well and the catalytic like the awesome
35:44
supplements, right, the homeopathics, all of that, the
35:47
B12 or the the supplements, the sound and sardines was like
35:53
winning for the win. We she literally she licked at
35:57
like at first she just licked a couple bites and we were like,
36:00
that's still progress. Let's go, let's go.
36:02
And then it was like probably the next day or or Sunday night.
36:05
I can't even remember. I don't know time right now, but
36:08
she started eating and she would eat the sardines and we were
36:12
like, this is wonderful. And still today, like I like I'm
36:17
giving her sardines to give her all of her other supplements.
36:21
Now that we don't like, now we can actually start putting in
36:24
food and a little bit less traumatic because we're not
36:27
having to syringe it down her throat anymore.
36:29
And. Can I give a shout out to Doctor
36:31
Katie Woodley? She just said Nina was asking
36:33
like, what? What's in the liver tonic, Why?
36:35
You know, why to have it on hand?
36:37
And Doctor Katie said the liver and the pancreas are closely
36:40
connected with pancreatitis. You want to support both.
36:43
So Catalyst and the liver tonic are really helpful in the
36:46
situation and they really have been I and everyone is asking
36:51
about the sound you guys stay tuned.
36:52
I will post the link to that. It's like an app for.
36:58
It's on a YouTube video. Yeah, it's YouTube video.
37:01
I will post it on YouTube and on Facebook in the comments.
37:04
So just come back to the comments when we're done here
37:06
and I will. Yeah, we do have to shout you
37:08
out. Doctor Katie, I love you so
37:11
much. It's amazing.
37:14
I just, I just feel like I'm so. Great.
37:18
So much of. A vacation in Hawaii or
37:22
something. So Catherine is asking, did you
37:26
ever figure out what caused it? I want to, I want to cover that
37:28
real quick. We thought we were going to be
37:29
able to keep this 30 minutes. We're rambling, delirious fools
37:32
right now. But so here is what we suspect.
37:35
So just to recap really quickly, we got her in after this violent
37:39
vomiting. They saw the mass after 12
37:42
hours. The mass had dissipated with
37:44
with fluid therapy. When this happened at 4, AMI
37:48
found a hairball, which is very unlike us to see a hairball in
37:52
our home that looked almost like poop and it was narrow at one
37:56
end. It looked like it was ripped off
37:57
at the other. I suspect I think we both do at
38:00
this point because she's been a super healthy, super healthy
38:03
girl. Is that that hairball that was
38:08
coming up that was coated with her crunchy munchies?
38:13
Aren't you munchies, meaning the freeze dry that she gets in the
38:15
afternoon? Yeah, and at at night we leave a
38:19
little snack out in the time that that hairball ripped off in
38:24
her throat and that was the the end of it was the mask that we
38:27
could see. I suspect this is what happened.
38:30
So our feeding schedule for all of our babies is they get raw
38:34
for breakfast, they get a wet food treat for lunch, they get
38:38
raw for dinner, and then they have the crunchy munchy feeders
38:42
at night that turn at 8:00. For a little and they get
38:44
crunchy munchies in the afternoon.
38:46
Well, Zorro does the crunchy munchies in the afternoon.
38:48
Most of the other babies will always.
38:50
Well, he'll have a couple, but his favorite is is the wet food.
38:54
The beginning of August, we thought Jack was reacting to a
38:59
thickening agent in the foods that we were feeding at the time
39:01
because he had a little rash on his head, which we're still
39:04
dealing with. Update on that later.
39:06
So we switched up the wet food to one that didn't have this
39:10
thickening agent. Madison would not eat that wet
39:13
food, so she started eating the crunchy mungies with the freeze
39:17
dried food with Zorro. That we did not rehydrate.
39:20
That we didn't rehydrate we just but she was eating more of it
39:24
and then at night, like Thursday night, you guys like I said, she
39:27
ate her raw food just fine at 5:00.
39:29
When we came home at 9:30 she was eating her her freeze dried
39:33
snacks. I think she was going to the
39:35
other feeders and eating more of it because she wasn't getting
39:39
her wet food lunch. She didn't want the wet food
39:41
that we are feeding. What I suspect has happened over
39:44
this month of changing their diet is that she we let her eat
39:51
too much freeze dried food and that it dehydrated her system
39:57
and that that was the most. That there's actually, there's a
40:01
lot of, there's a lot of ideas that we have in our head of what
40:04
happened. Sometimes we don't know guys,
40:07
right? So sometimes we're not going to.
40:09
Know but the fact that the mess unless we flew it there put.
40:12
Her under anesthesia and did a scope at that time because that
40:15
would be the only way that we would have known when we first
40:18
saw the. I would avoid that if we.
40:20
Could right. So, so we don't necessarily know
40:24
exactly what happened, but it it has happened in the past and
40:28
then that that not to us, but like it has happened where cats
40:33
get these hairballs that are stuck and it turns into a mass
40:36
and there's an emergency type situation that might that that
40:41
might be what it is. I'm not quite.
40:43
Catherine just said Buzz can't eat much of the freeze dried
40:46
because he gets sick. He's had pancreatitis twice now
40:49
this year. So I think that's what it is, is
40:51
that if we feed it dehydrated, which we were doing, we got just
40:55
as a little snack, but she was eating more than we realized
40:58
that it was, you know, it was dehydrating her stomach fluids
41:02
and that caused that. You know, we always talk about
41:05
this with kibble. You know, if you get chronic
41:07
hairballs with your cat, think about you're feeding them a dry
41:10
diet and it's very much like it kind of just gets stopped up in
41:14
there. They don't have what it takes
41:16
for them to naturally pass that through.
41:19
Now that wasn't my first thought.
41:20
My first thought initially was like, damn it, this is my fault.
41:26
This is my fault, right? Like we, we've had a, we had
41:28
doctor Barry Sands on who is also a beautiful veterinarian
41:31
that we were able to reach out to during this time and ER vet,
41:34
we've had her on our podcast here and to talk about
41:37
pancreatitis specifically. And we, she, we, she talked
41:41
about like the, the level of stress and the owner stress and
41:45
how cats take on the stress of their owners and how how this
41:50
like anxiety can lead to issues in your cats as well as
41:56
yourself. We know this.
41:58
We have been in a heightened level of stress for or I have
42:02
specifically, I wasn't blaming Adrian, but I have been at a, at
42:05
a heightened level of stress for a minute, right?
42:08
Like I told you, family emergencies plus conventions,
42:11
plus hosting everything like the.
42:13
Beginning of July. Basically, right.
42:14
So it, yeah, basically a month and a half, two months.
42:17
It's just been this like what level of like I like I, I, I, I,
42:22
I can't. So I blamed myself.
42:26
I was like, she has this because of my stress, right?
42:29
Like of course it's about me. But but all like, I think all of
42:34
this likely plays into we don't know exactly what the reason is,
42:38
right? What we know is that she is now
42:39
on the road to recovery. She has pooped, she is pooping.
42:43
She has her healing room. So we have a, we have a guest
42:45
room. We have one guest room in our
42:46
house and that room in Sissy's room, it's either Sissy's room
42:50
or in his room stays over right And then and then it was the
42:54
kitten's room. Whenever we whenever we bring in
42:57
a new. It was, it was Zorro in Friday's
42:59
room, and then it was Jack in Madison's room, and then it was
43:01
Annie's room and then it was, it was it was Madison's room again.
43:05
When the only other, whenever we had with it wasn't even
43:07
emergency. But the only other time that
43:09
Madison needed extra time in there was when she got spayed.
43:12
When she got spayed, her body rejected the sutures, so we had
43:17
to spend another two weeks in there basically.
43:20
Right, so, so now it's the healing room, right?
43:22
Like now that now we're like, OK, you have a healing room.
43:25
I can't tell you guys right now. I don't know if she is milking
43:28
us for the because she's doing so well, right?
43:32
But I don't know if she's milking us for the extra
43:36
attention and the fact that she has her privacy.
43:38
Because she's not a cat that likes the other cats, right?
43:42
She doesn't snuggle with them. She's a people.
43:44
She thinks she's. Human, right?
43:46
So she she's more like I want to be with my people, not I want to
43:49
be with the other cats. So I don't know if she's just
43:51
milking this or if she just needs more time to heal.
43:55
Either way, she gets the healing room.
43:57
I feel she's eating now like so well, her I, I still, I don't
44:02
want to let her freely roam like that's why she's not out here
44:05
with us. She I, we let her out earlier
44:07
today. I went in to see how she was
44:09
doing and she was like, I'm going downstairs.
44:11
So we did a whole like checking the house out again, saying hi
44:14
to everybody. But I also feel like I really
44:17
want to keep an eye on these deposits.
44:18
We, we still need to do a follow up.
44:20
We need to find out, you know, how everything is doing right
44:24
now. She's she's eating like a champ,
44:27
absolute champ, but I still, you know, so.
44:30
Everything is everything is good.
44:32
Like we are on the road to recover.
44:33
We are not going to stop with our natural treatments, with our
44:37
holistic treatments because she went through a lot and there's a
44:39
lot to rebuild, right? Like, but like Doctor Katie
44:42
Woodley, the natural pet doctor said like we can, we need to do
44:45
what we need to do to fight what we need to fight.
44:48
And then we can fix things, right?
44:50
Like we can, we can heal the gut if we but but right now we need
44:53
to we need to fix Madison and. So.
44:58
She's on antibiotics and she's on probiotics and she's on
45:01
slippery Elm and she's on digestive enzymes, antioxidant
45:05
enzymes and, and, and liver tonic and all the stuff and
45:08
things so that we can make sure that we are, that we're mixing,
45:13
you know, both what she needs in the conventional world and what
45:16
she needs in the holistic world, in the natural world, like what
45:19
she needs for her body that's going to cause the least harm
45:23
and the and give the most benefits, especially long term,
45:28
right And for her recovery. And I just feel like I know
45:31
we're way over time that we thought, but I think the biggest
45:35
thing is we have so much gratitude that medicine is
45:38
recovering. We have so much gratitude for
45:42
the veterinarians at VEG, Every single one of them, every single
45:46
one of the nurses. They, they, not only do they
45:49
know how to handle a cat, which is not something that we're used
45:54
to, they, they were so gracious to us, so accommodating to us.
45:59
They, we could have conversations about everything
46:02
and anything. We felt completely supported and
46:06
safe there. It was amazing to be able to be
46:08
with Madison. We feel so grateful for the
46:12
veterinarians in this community that knew something was going on
46:15
and contacted us and help us think straight in that moment of
46:21
emergency to this community that to to our.
46:24
Beautiful woo woo friends who were also right there connecting
46:29
right there sitting energy right there like through this whole
46:33
thing for the the beautiful soul on on Instagram who reached out
46:38
and sent us the the frequency video.
46:41
God bless you like thank you so much because and the.
46:44
Sardines tip. And then the sardines tip.
46:46
Like, really? It's like it takes a village,
46:48
right? And Laura Lee actually texted us
46:50
and said hey for appetites. I saw Judith's comment earlier.
46:52
Laura Lee told us exactly what herbs to use.
46:55
We have to herb garden down at the hospital.
46:58
And in her healing room right now, yes, Karen Dundy Smith,
47:01
that moment in the ER when we were there maybe an hour.
47:05
And she's the beautiful soul that got me into Qigong, which
47:10
is like a meditation. It's like a 25 minute meditation
47:13
that I try to do. She was like, as you do this,
47:16
just imagine like she just had like a direction for me, which
47:19
was which was game changing to my adult brain at that time to
47:26
be able to focus on the way to meditate instead of just being
47:30
all of in my head. It was incredible.
47:33
And then and then. All of you guys that were
47:36
sending so much, so many prayers, so much support, so
47:39
many, the good energy, the vibes, the, I mean, just it's,
47:43
it's overwhelming every time like it, but it's so amazing.
47:47
You know, when on social media, you just, you never know, like,
47:50
like you just post things and you tell people what's going on
47:53
in your life and you, you never know who sees it.
47:55
Like a lot of times you see things, but you don't like it.
47:57
You know, we don't, we don't like, you know, always like it
48:00
or engage with it or anything like that.
48:02
The amount of the thousands and thousands of you guys that were
48:07
consistently reaching out, consistently sending prayers,
48:10
consistently sending your, your positive healing energy.
48:15
We are so grateful because that I mean it, it really keeps us
48:18
going and it has kept us going through this whole debacle that.
48:23
Whole situation, we don't know the why of it.
48:25
Yet we don't know the why, and maybe we won't.
48:28
I want to, I want to talk about this for a second with this
48:30
community, because one thing I do think is, is if for no other
48:34
reason that we may ever understand this side of this
48:37
side, being able to have that time with this ER clinic with
48:43
these beautiful conventional veterinarians, you guys, and
48:46
listening all night long when I stayed with medicine, listening
48:49
all night long to them handle pets and people in their darkest
48:55
hours. You guys, this is where I'm
48:58
going to I'm going to just start bringing them like food every
49:01
week as like a thank you for existing, thank you for your
49:05
stamina, thank you for your your knowledge, Thank you for like
49:09
it. It's if for no other reason, it
49:12
really solidify what it is for all of us to participate in the
49:17
bridge building between integrative and holistic health
49:21
and conventional health and for all of us to recognize what are
49:25
veterinarians do, what incredible people they are, how
49:30
much they handle as human beings.
49:33
Like we're talking about being stressed for the past month and
49:36
a half because we've had family emergencies in the human ER,
49:39
going to doctor's appointments back and forth here and there,
49:41
doing conventions. These people are dealing with
49:44
life and death every 15 minutes, and they're doing it with grace
49:48
and with knowledge and with compassion and.
49:52
Even a smile like they still figure out how to bring that
49:58
customer service. I don't know what joy, but joy,
50:01
right? Like they.
50:01
Still. It's a it's a it's a beautiful
50:05
thing. So thank, thank you to.
50:07
All of you for letting us be part of this beautiful village.
50:10
All of you are. So it's just over.
50:13
It is. It is really overwhelming.
50:15
And Madison feels it too. I feel like she knows how many
50:20
people love her. It's.
50:22
Just. And I feel like we're going to
50:24
sleep tonight, I feel like. Tonight's going to be the first
50:26
night. Yeah.
50:27
I feel like I haven't slept. I haven't slept in our bed
50:29
since. Since Thursday.
50:31
Jay's been taking care of all the babies.
50:34
I've been in the room with Madison, and last night she was
50:37
definitely feeling better. She loves, she has little claws.
50:40
She loves to wake me up by grabbing my face so it's like.
50:43
Yeah, that first warning, I came in and I was like, oh, she got
50:46
your nose because she has just like her nose.
50:48
My face was like, Oh yeah, OK, it's.
50:50
That aging, needling thing that they do, I don't know where they
50:54
do like needles, but I definitely.
50:56
Need that right now. Yeah, we're.
50:58
But we're so grateful for you guys and we're grateful for this
51:01
community. We'll continue to keep you guys
51:04
posted too. Yeah, back when she's out in
51:06
Gen. Pop Yeah.
51:08
Yeah, I I think she should. She will be very soon, probably
51:12
within a day she will be. Maybe not.
51:14
Back in this one is very hesitant.
51:17
I am like, let her do, let her be, Let's go.
51:21
But but thank you guys so much for joining us on this on this
51:26
beautiful podcast. Sorry if we babbled on too long,
51:30
but thank you. Thank you again for joining us
51:32
and we will see you guys very soon after a nap.