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*Bonus Episode* Slow It Down With PJ Harding · Toni, Jase & Sam - Breakfast Catchup

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  Speaker 1: Hi, it's Tony Jason Sam from the field. Good Breakfast
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  Speaker 1: on Coast And before we listen to our podcast, something
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different, and you might hear a bit
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  Speaker 1: more of this from our wonderful team at iHeartRadio and
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  Speaker 1: we're part of that family too. We're going to show
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  Speaker 1: you a few different types of podcasts that you might
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  Speaker 1: want to add.
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  Speaker 2: To your collection.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this one today. We love PJ Harding and
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  Speaker 3: she started a podcast called Slow It Down. So essentially
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  Speaker 3: what it is, it's trying to get a more grounded
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  Speaker 3: existence and give you ideas on how you can get
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  Speaker 3: a better lifestyle balance. And so she's going to have
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of guests who have chosen to live
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  Speaker 3: a more balanced lifestyle and there'll be some experts and
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  Speaker 3: the tangible tips and tricks so that you can live
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  Speaker 3: a more zen life.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a moment of me time,
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  Speaker 1: but a you time just to chill out and unplug
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. The podcast is out now released every Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast wind down over the weekend
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  Speaker 1: get grounded. You can follow the podcast on iHeartRadio or
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  Speaker 1: where every your podcasts from just look for Slow it
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  Speaker 1: Down with PJ Harding Enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: With the Heads podcast Network. Hello and welcome to Slow
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  Speaker 2: It Down.
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  Speaker 4: I'm your host, PJ Harding, and I've started this podcast because, well,
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  Speaker 4: pretty selfishly, really, I feel like life is so busy.
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  Speaker 4: Even though I live literally in the middle of nowhere
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  Speaker 4: off Griz, surrounded by bush you'd think that you could
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  Speaker 4: just quiet in the noise, But I still feel stressed.
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  Speaker 2: I still feel overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 4: I still feel that pressure of keeping up with what
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  Speaker 4: everyone else is doing. And I want to carve out
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  Speaker 4: some time every week to sit down and have really
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  Speaker 4: conscious conversations with people who are also living busy lives.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to pick their brains and work out
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  Speaker 4: how they find peace and the chaos and what rituals
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  Speaker 4: they do to stay sane. It's that simple. Every week
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  Speaker 4: I'll have a new guest and hopefully we can be
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  Speaker 4: inspired together. I don't want this to be a judgmental zone.
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  Speaker 4: I want it to be a placed you can chill
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  Speaker 4: out and listened to over the weekend. And I am
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  Speaker 4: so excited to introduce my first guest on the.
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  Speaker 2: Show, Zoe Marshall.
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  Speaker 4: We actually briefly work together back in the day when
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  Speaker 4: she was working on Zidim and Auckland. She worked on
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  Speaker 4: a show there for a while and then we sort
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  Speaker 4: of just kept in touch over the years, and she's
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  Speaker 4: gone on to.
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  Speaker 2: Create some amazing podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: She created The Deep and then started a subscription called
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  Speaker 4: The Deeper, and the conversations that she has had on
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  Speaker 4: that podcast have been pretty heavy. She's talked to people
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  Speaker 4: will parents that have been given a terminal diagnosis. She's
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  Speaker 4: talked to ice attics, conscious sex workers, the list goes on.
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  Speaker 4: She's not afraid to tackle a taboo topic. And more recently,
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  Speaker 4: she's gone on to create a new platform called a Rise,
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  Speaker 4: which helps people create the life that is he and
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  Speaker 4: it's all about manifestation, but as she says, it's manifestation
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  Speaker 4: a bit bitter, and she talks about her there's so
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  Speaker 4: much more to it than just at being woo. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of science to back up some of this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So I can't wait to pick her brain in this episode.
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  Speaker 4: And I really hope you enjoying my chat with Sally.
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  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I've been so excited to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a while.
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  Speaker 4: I think the last time we talked, i'd just given
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  Speaker 4: birth and I went through like a step by step
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  Speaker 4: harrowing encounter of what happens.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were there was a little bit of PTSD.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it's really nice to see your beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Face again and you Howard's the baby.
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  Speaker 2: He's just gone to Wow, two years since I spoke
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  Speaker 2: to you, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were living in the bush.
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  Speaker 2: I am kind pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, though I work in the nearest town now
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  Speaker 4: so I actually do a radio show.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the local rural time. Harm is a twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Minute drive look at you all set up?
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  Speaker 2: Truth of all.
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  Speaker 4: I'll run through what slow It Down is and kind
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  Speaker 4: of the premise of this podcast and why I thought
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  Speaker 4: you'd be a perfect for that. So basically, I think
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  Speaker 4: since moving to the middle of nowhere, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: had this expectation that life becomes slow and relaxed and
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  Speaker 4: I'd be grounded.
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  Speaker 2: And the reality is, I'm still stressed.
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  Speaker 4: Life still feels chaotic, and I have a beautiful life,
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  Speaker 4: but it's so easy to not appreciate everything beautiful in
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  Speaker 4: front of you. So I want to talk about tips
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  Speaker 4: and tracks and ways to really feel like.
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  Speaker 2: You can make the most of the golden years.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, are we in the golden years.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I no pressure.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like this is so aligned with where I
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  Speaker 5: am at because I am very literally in a metamorphosis
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  Speaker 5: of of wanting to have the experiences and wisdom of
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  Speaker 5: like being an elder on a rocking chair, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but like doing all of that now, like the pace,
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  Speaker 5: the presence, the appreciation now. So I am every I'm
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  Speaker 5: just I want to get rid of everything. I want
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  Speaker 5: to get rid of, like a lot of my belongings.
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  Speaker 5: I want to downsize everything in my life. I want
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  Speaker 5: to just have my needs met and then be able
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  Speaker 5: to do less. And I am like it already is happening.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it all started with like I had
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  Speaker 5: a quite quite a scary breast scare in June, and
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  Speaker 5: that just shifts everything. And it's such a shame that
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  Speaker 5: human beings need such a dire situation to wake them up,
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  Speaker 5: but I did. And I just got back from two
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  Speaker 5: and a half weeks in Europe and Dubai and literally
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  Speaker 5: just sitting in the sun eating bread and butter and
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  Speaker 5: olive oil, I was like, this is living. Obviously, it's
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  Speaker 5: very different circumstances, but what if we could bring that
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  Speaker 5: level I like to call it like the magic in
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  Speaker 5: the mundane, like finding the miracles.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it there.
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  Speaker 4: It's literally like one of my objectives, we objectives of
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  Speaker 4: this podcast is finding magic in the mundane, or like
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  Speaker 4: finding meaning in the mundane.
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  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, And I find like being in awe of
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  Speaker 5: everything around us. So I think we have just been
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  Speaker 5: really stripped of so much importance because of you know,
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  Speaker 5: how distracted we are, how we've got these kind of
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  Speaker 5: really quick dopamine hits all the time. We're not able
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  Speaker 5: to focus in and slow down and appreciate the things
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  Speaker 5: that we have. I created a whole new business. I
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  Speaker 5: got rid of slowed down one side of my business
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  Speaker 5: and started a new one which is all around this
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  Speaker 5: and it's around manifestation, co creation mindset. But truly, like
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  Speaker 5: it sounds like a riddle, but everything that we want,
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  Speaker 5: if you are living as if you already have that thing,
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  Speaker 5: and you're already feeling the way it would feel to
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  Speaker 5: have the thing, then you already have the feeling you
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  Speaker 5: would have it even if you got it. So it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of like once you get all the stuff right,
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  Speaker 5: Like I went really hard in my career and I
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  Speaker 5: got the accolades and I got the fancy car, and
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  Speaker 5: I got the fancy house, and I got the fancy things,
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  Speaker 5: and then you're like, oh fuck, I didn't need any
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  Speaker 5: of the fancy things, any of them. Yes, right now,
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  Speaker 5: shut down all those businesses. Start something that feels like
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  Speaker 5: in true service, which will also keep me accountable every
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  Speaker 5: single day and just be able to meet life where
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  Speaker 5: it's at and be able to practice in real time.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's okay to become heady about all of this
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  Speaker 5: and get into the education and do the YouTube and
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  Speaker 5: be in the tutorials and join the courses. But unless
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  Speaker 5: you're in complete chaotic insanity and you don't start to
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  Speaker 5: bring the stuff in, there's no point. Like you're just
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  Speaker 5: on the kind of little rat wheel. What do you
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  Speaker 5: call it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the rat race.
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  Speaker 4: That's also another reason why I wanted to do this,
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  Speaker 4: because I've bought so many self help books of my life,
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  Speaker 4: and I know all the shit to do, but just
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  Speaker 4: sometimes implementing it is kind of hard. And you're right,
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  Speaker 4: it's so sad that we have to have like these
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  Speaker 4: life awakening moments, you know, whether it's a family been
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  Speaker 4: beginning really unwell, or you lose your house or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: When people are really steered with what reality is. That's
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  Speaker 4: when they're like, oh, fuck, I don't have long to
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  Speaker 4: live and I need to live and I can't waste
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  Speaker 4: another second, and.
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  Speaker 5: Like what am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And how am I eating? And how am I moving?
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  Speaker 5: And how am I turning up for my family? And
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  Speaker 5: how am I working? And like like we are just
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  Speaker 5: in this autopilot of life happening to us, and no
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  Speaker 5: one actually stops until you're forced to stop, which is
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  Speaker 5: a health scare or a death or like a crumbling
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  Speaker 5: and you're like, oh my god, I have to change.
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  Speaker 5: I can't smoke anymore, I can't drink like I like
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  Speaker 5: all of the things. But really, I guess what I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to teach my community at ARISE is like we
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  Speaker 5: don't need to get to breaking point to change, Like
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  Speaker 5: we can bring in really incredible mini habits to change
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  Speaker 5: your life and it will change your life and you
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  Speaker 5: can have these realizations now and not at seventy you know,
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  Speaker 5: on the Rocking Chair. I feel like I'm very aligned
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  Speaker 5: with your podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was looking at some of your videos on
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  Speaker 4: the RIZ page today and there was one that caught
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  Speaker 4: my eye and it was so funny because this woman
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  Speaker 4: was talking to you about the importance of starting your
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  Speaker 4: day with something positive and how that will set you
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  Speaker 4: up for a more positive experience.
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  Speaker 2: Not necessarily bring you.
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  Speaker 4: More positivity, but you'll be more aware of the positive
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  Speaker 4: things that happened to you. So I watched that video
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  Speaker 4: and then that second I've got it into practice, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, okay, you're right, because I
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  Speaker 4: wake up in like a stressed mode, right, and I
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  Speaker 4: know I should be more mindful. So I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the mantra, what if everything just worked out?
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  Speaker 4: What if everything just works up? What if everything just
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  Speaker 4: wiks at? And I keep saying that, and then no
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  Speaker 4: shits away. I walk outside the house and there was
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  Speaker 4: this rainbow just going over our house, like it was
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  Speaker 4: the perfect rainbow, and I was like, I got it that,
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  Speaker 4: oh my, And then it just stayed there for our
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  Speaker 4: ages and I was like, okay, well, that in itself
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  Speaker 4: is just one of those moments.
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  Speaker 5: And so there is science behind this, because my program
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  Speaker 5: is backed by neuroscience. There's science behind starting your day
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  Speaker 5: with a declaration, an affirmation, a positive headspace like it.
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  Speaker 2: It It's not just were woolshit.
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  Speaker 5: No, it like impacts your rath system. Your ra system
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  Speaker 5: is your reticular activation system. And what that does is
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  Speaker 5: we are consuming so much information all the time as humans.
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  Speaker 5: We are always scanning for information that makes us true
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  Speaker 5: or safe. So if you wake up and you're like
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  Speaker 5: life is hard, things are hard, and nothing works out
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  Speaker 5: for me, your rath system is figuring out, Like I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure there was something underneath that rainbow, like there was
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  Speaker 5: a traffic jam or there was this or that was that,
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  Speaker 5: and you were like, okay, but I see the rainbow
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  Speaker 5: in the traffic jam, and I see the rainbow.
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  Speaker 4: In that moment, I was like, oh my god, because
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  Speaker 4: I'm so guilty of just like back in the day,
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  Speaker 4: I felt like I was bitter at embodying all these
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  Speaker 4: things that I believed, like having all these retchalks. But
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  Speaker 4: it's so easy to get caught back up in that
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  Speaker 4: like will as you talk about, and I know there's
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  Speaker 4: so many beautiful things that I miss out on. So
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  Speaker 4: it was it was quite like a powerful moment where
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you cannot afford to miss all of
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  Speaker 4: this beauty and magic, because that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 5: And we do become addicted very immediately to our to
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  Speaker 5: do lists and our needs and our children's needs and
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  Speaker 5: the work and like. But the thing is, which is
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  Speaker 5: so funny and very humbling, is the world doesn't end
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  Speaker 5: if you didn't do the grocery shop, or if the
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  Speaker 5: child is late for school, or if you didn't have
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  Speaker 5: as many talking points for the radio show. Like it
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  Speaker 5: just doesn't. Like maybe eventually you'll lose your job if
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  Speaker 5: you don't keep doing. But I think we start to lose.
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  Speaker 5: We are putting things in a very important category that
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  Speaker 5: aren't and we're putting ourselves and our mental health and
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  Speaker 5: our movement and our conversations as like something at the
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  Speaker 5: bottom of the barrel. When I've put the kids to
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  Speaker 5: bed and I lay on the couch, I'm scrolling on
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  Speaker 5: TikTok and watching a show at the same time. Like
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  Speaker 5: it just we're responsible, And I don't think that anyone
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  Speaker 5: can like victimize themselves because we all have the ability,
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  Speaker 5: like we really do.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so give me some really great ways things that
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  Speaker 4: we can do to weave into our day to encourage
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  Speaker 4: that presence.
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  Speaker 5: I think, firstly, this isn't like a quick hit. This
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  Speaker 5: isn't like winning the lotto, This isn't like a pyramid
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  Speaker 5: scheme marketing thing we make keep some money, and like,
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  Speaker 5: no one is going to do this for you, and
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  Speaker 5: it is going to require commitment to yourself. But I
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  Speaker 5: can tell you the people that we look up to,
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  Speaker 5: the celebrities or the entrepreneurs or the billion dollar business people,
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  Speaker 5: have such integrity with their routines to themselves. So I
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  Speaker 5: say to everyone in the course, especially when you're starting,
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  Speaker 5: get up thirty minutes before you usually do right. And
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  Speaker 5: that's really hard if you've got kids and you're getting
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  Speaker 5: up at five instead of five thirty, right, but go
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  Speaker 5: to bed earlier and in that thirty minutes you have
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  Speaker 5: the ability to create a declaration when you're in an
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  Speaker 5: alpha state, that awake state right to program your rust system.
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  Speaker 5: You can do some some I want to say Hubban users.
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it's called like parai engazing, but
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  Speaker 5: it's when you look out and you're kind of balancing
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  Speaker 5: your circadian rhythm, which is going to really support your sleep.
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  Speaker 5: You can either journal or meditate, whichever feels better for you.
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  Speaker 5: Move and stretch, eat, Like if you do like two
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  Speaker 5: of those six things, you're already setting yourself up right.
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  Speaker 5: So when the kids get up. They're like on, they're
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  Speaker 5: like ready, and you're going to be a better parent.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to be more patient, You're gonna be able
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  Speaker 5: to listen to them. They're having a tantrum because they
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  Speaker 5: want the blue cup not the red cup. You're like,
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  Speaker 5: I really understand, I get it. Fuck I really like
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  Speaker 5: the red cup too. But you won't be just like
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  Speaker 5: pulling them out the door. Yeah, oh maybe you will,
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  Speaker 5: you know. But I think that starting your day for
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  Speaker 5: yourself and allowing yourself to set intentions rather than the
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  Speaker 5: day catch you up is really important. And then there
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  Speaker 5: are a million other things that we can bring in,
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  Speaker 5: Like you really got to be serious about what you're consuming.
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  Speaker 5: How much what are you drinking? Are you a caffeinated
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  Speaker 5: person and you're relying on stimulants? Are you getting your
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  Speaker 5: nourishment in Like we're little like organisms. We need to
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  Speaker 5: be fed and watered and slept. And I think it's
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  Speaker 5: like looking at basics, are you moving every day? And
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  Speaker 5: then like how do you see the world and what
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  Speaker 5: are you doing so co creation, how I teach it
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  Speaker 5: isn't wish for thinking that a ferrari is going to
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  Speaker 5: end up at your doorstep just because you put it
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  Speaker 5: on your vision board. It's like what am I doing today?
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  Speaker 5: What actions am I taking to be magnetic to what
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  Speaker 5: I want? And so like I had a real doozy
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  Speaker 5: of a day on Thursday. It was like a fucking
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: doozy and horrendous jet lag. I hadn't slept at all,
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  Speaker 5: bench had food poisoning. My nanny was off, one of
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  Speaker 5: my fate favorite favorite teammates within the my business resigned.
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  Speaker 5: A lawyer needed a very specific information from me. My
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  Speaker 5: accountant wanted to have a really hard conversation. My dog
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  Speaker 5: vomited and I couldn't. I couldn't. My daughter was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like at me. And so it was a
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  Speaker 5: real moment of like that doesn't just kick a person
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  Speaker 5: into doing that, kicks you into like safety seeking, behavior
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  Speaker 5: finding security. And I went into my my autopilot, which
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  Speaker 5: is like fix everything now, like blinkers on, don't talk
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  Speaker 5: to me. I'm going to solve all the world's problems
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  Speaker 5: in this moment. And then my husband was like, you're
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  Speaker 5: not okay. I was like, I'm really not okay. Like
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  Speaker 5: a lot is happening, and we have this beautiful session.
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  Speaker 5: We had this workshop within the community that night which
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  Speaker 5: was such perfect timing, and within this workshop, I was
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  Speaker 5: able to explore what it would look like if I
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  Speaker 5: did things differently like that way of like tunnel vision,
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  Speaker 5: getting everything done, fixing it all in one day and
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  Speaker 5: stressing myself out. I've done for forty years, So what
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  Speaker 5: would the other way look like. I saw benj my husband,
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  Speaker 5: downstairs after this workshop, and I said, listen, I know
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  Speaker 5: I was in a wild state when you saw me.
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  Speaker 5: I need you to know that I'm going to practice
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  Speaker 5: something and tomorrow I am not going to do anything
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  Speaker 5: about those things I've already like literally shot off. I've
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  Speaker 5: taken so much action today to put out ten fires.
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  Speaker 5: But tomorrow I'm not going to chase like the fire engine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just going to allow the action that I've taken
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  Speaker 5: to simmer and connect. I'm going to go to the.
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  Speaker 2: Beach, nice beach.
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  Speaker 5: You take my daughter to the beach, and I am
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  Speaker 5: physically going to take myself out of where I want
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  Speaker 5: to be with fixing. And it was in those moments,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: and that's what I said at the beginning of this,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: which was when the shit hits the fan, what learnings
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: and what practices are you putting into place? Because we
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: go to the place we feel the safest. We don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: go to the place which we have the greatest growth.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: And so I took my own advice and I went
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: to the beach and I did that stuff, and then
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I realized, with a bit of space, you have a
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: bit of clarity that I was like, oh my god,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: this colleague leaving is the best thing for us. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: it hurts because I love them, but you would never
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: have let them go. You would never and this is
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: holding the business back. What are you going to do?
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: And so now on Monday morning, I have three incredible
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: business strategists that are like the whole thing has just
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: come together because there's been space and I've done something
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: implemented the growth without kind of that habitual. You know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I wanted wine. I wanted heaps of wine. I wanted
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: to eat heaps of chips, and I wanted.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: To did you do any of that or did you
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: just go to the beach.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I just went to the beach and then I went
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: for a walk and it was like, this is so
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: fucked being woke, Like how boring. And then on the weekend,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I definitely had two glasses of red wine. That's me
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: being really wild and I've woken up today no jet
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: lag and just like I just am excited, like I
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: did all my practices this morning, I'm back.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: And only it doesn't have to You don't have to
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: spial for six months, hm, Like you can like do
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: this in a day.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: With manifestation.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: People often talk about not forcing, not forcing, not for saying, yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you took a step back from there and you just allowed,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it was trust.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, mantra. It was like let go let God, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: trust trust for us. But that's really hard for like
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: a control freak. Even as a manifestation master like you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Still it's just a humbling experience because you never graduate
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: from this stuff. Your life is just impacted by different
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: situations and circumstances where you just keep leveling up and
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: it's a beautiful life, like it's an extraordinary life. But
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: what you see a success and what I see a
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: success and the person listening are so vastly different. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I'm not playing the game anymore for whatever anybody else
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: thinks is successful. For me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: God, I get so caught up in there, I really do,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: and I think that I'm bigger than that or you
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: know mature enough to like see past it, but I
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: still compare myself to so many people, and I'm like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: why the hell am I comparing myself to her? I
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: don't actually want to be like her, but I'm still
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: comparing myself.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: But if you didn't want what she had, why are
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: you compare exactly?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because there must be an answer. There's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: got to be something.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know because I feel like they've got more
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: success than me, and I feel like I could be
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: doing that, but then I'm like, no, but I don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: want to be doing that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: But do you think that their peers are looking at
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: them like, oh, they're more successful than Polly?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: No one, no one's looking at it like that my brain,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: or like.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Are they thinking, you know, Polly chose to live out
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: in the wilderness and chose peace, and I'm still here
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: doing the rat race thing like Polly's got success. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: don't I want that. Do you know what I mean?
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's the rose ten of glasses, It's the grass
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: is always greener mentality. And I want to know do
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: you have an answer on how to get out of it?
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I think we need to get really really clear on
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: what we want and why we want it. And if
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: you come from a place of ego where I want
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: what she has or I want that job, because then
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: my peers think, or my mum will think, or I'll
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: drive a Lamborghini and hot chicks will like me. Versus
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I want to do work that I feel passionate and
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: purposeful and I want to be living a life in
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: integrity and of service to others are two very different things.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Like it's okay to want fancy shit because our ego
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: is always running in the background and we want people
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: to give us a compliment or acknowledge us or make
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: us seen like it's very human. But that's fine on
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: like a superficial level. When we're talking about like our
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: life path and our purpose, like get really clear on why.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Because when we go back to that whole point of
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: like feeling the feeling of being the most successful version
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: of yourself, right, if you're living that feeling, walking as
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: if you're that person, talking as if you're that person,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: you're going to be attracting so many opportunities and people
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: and places and things and serendipitous moments that meet you
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: there when it's in truth versus ego and so it's
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: like you can keep trying to out smart yourself or
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: you can just like surrender your options.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, And when you get into those mindset, it's this
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: such roadblocks and obstacles to actually getting what you want,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Like they're just fucking waste of time, waste of time.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: And you think you want the push right, yes, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: then you get it and you realize no one is
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: looking at you in your push, no one gives a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: shit about you and your push, like they really don't.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: And the people that do, like, you know what I mean.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I remember when I was in Australia and I was
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: on billboards and I was like really good with it,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: and I just remember going, as I say, I was
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: like fight o this river, this is not going to
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: be this is like there was such a big part
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: of me that didn't feel that deep sense of fulfillment,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: and like that was confronting to a lot of people.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I think they were like, why would you step away
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: when you're in you know, this position? And I was
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: like I can't really explain it, but I just got
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to go home and I got to grab my roads.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: And you're like you've got to follow those nudgets.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: And I think that people see that as successful when
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: you're not being dictated to by what society is you
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: should have and you're following your truth, even if that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: looks crazy, like like living in this beautiful home and
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: not wanting it anymore because it's too much, and you
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: don't know it's too much, but until you're in it
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: and going like I want something that is enough, not
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: too much, Like it's weird for people are not okay,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: and that's okay because they're not in the same place
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: as you, and you just have to be like you
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: will be confronting for people because they are being mirrored
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: what is actually drinking back to them and that's not
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: your problem. You just have to be in your truth.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get a tiny home and like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to rural New Zealand.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Next to you fighting for your your radio job.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: So I have to see you talk about the imbortance
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: of boundaries, particularly over the last couple of years. Can
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: you talk through that, like how does that look for you?
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Saying no as a former people pleaser.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, Like I had Terry Cole, who is
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: like the boundary master come on board and take us
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: through it and I think it's just such an interesting thing.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Actually raising a little girl to you know, what we're
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: like as women and how we were raised as children
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties is such a impact on
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: our boundaries sexually, with consent, with work, with like signing
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: off your email's kiss kiss, like like all of the
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: stuff as a woman and boundaries versus even bringing in
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: you know, men into the equation and how they do
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: boundaries that just seem so much more adequate than we are.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: But boundaries. So I'm writing a book. It's in it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: almost at its final edit, and.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Your first part.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: It's my first deal.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so great. Gratulations.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Thank you. It's such a wonderful experience. But this, this
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: whole I have this whole chapter around boundaries because it's
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: almost like, and I explain it like this, like having
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: a door, bitch right to your energy into yourself and
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: you are a exquisite like very very elevated club. You know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: like we're talking, you just can't get in. You need
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: like a membership, you need who's who, Like it is
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: like the Kram Dela Cram, and then you've got drunks
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: out in the middle of the night trying to get
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: into your club. It's like, no, they're going to come in,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: piss on the walls, have punch up, smash all the glasses,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: like absolutely not, Like this is a sacred place. Boundaries
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: are for us. It looks like we're putting a boundary
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: there for somebody else, but they are for us. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: when we say, unfortunately, I'm out of office from three
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: pm every day, and the emails keep coming and you
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: get back to them on a Monday and they're like, hey,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: you didn't get back to my emails. Yeah, it really
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: clearly states that I'm out of office from three pm
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: without an explanation. When a family member wants to come
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: over and see your newborn baby but they're sick, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: you're like, sorry, we're not having visitors for this week
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: and next, and i'd really appreciate it if you could
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: let me know when you're well and then we'll organize
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: a time that suits us. You know, like all of
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: these things, it's not people see it as being rude.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: It's not being rude. It's allowing people to understand your
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: standards and what you require in life. People think that
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I am very particular neurotic, and some of those things
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: are true, but I also have exceptional standards for myself
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: and then for everybody else. If you're in my orbit,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: and if you're not, like I don't mind, but if
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: you're working with me or if we're friends, there is
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: a quality that I expect and that I like will
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: return in favor. And I think the boundaries help that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And I'm really willing, like I love other people's boundaries.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: When I see someone like set a boundary, I'm like, fuck,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: that's hot, that's so sexy for them, Like I like respect,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: you have self respect, So I mean you want more information.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: The whole workshop gives you like play by play on
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: how to set a boundary. But this also will come
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: up in moments that feel deeply uncomfortable, where you will
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: people please when you really should set a boundary.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And so how do you how do you prevent that?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Like when it is an in this like spur of
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the moment kind of thing and someone's there and you're
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: like not prepared for it, because I guess with boundaries,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: sometimes people can be ready to reply with an email
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: or whatever. But if someone comes up and they are
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: something in your face and you're like, like the paper
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: pleaser might want to come out, but like, of course.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I would say, like, if we're going from full on people,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: please into boundaries, there's like an evolution. I would ask
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: for time. I would say like, oh, that's a really
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: interesting question. Could I get back to you on that?
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Not in a in five minutes or in a day.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Can I get back to you on that. That's a
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: really kind way to pause yourself. Then you could reflect
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: and go like, oh no, I could have said thank
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: you so much for the opportunity, it just doesn't fit
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: for me. Or unfortunately I can't stay back today. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: have some commitments, you know, Or unfortunately my contracts I
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: end every day five o'clock. I won't be staying back,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: but we can negotiate if you wanted to explore something further.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: So I think to start with us for time, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: then reflect on what you really wanted to say, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: then always lead with kindness. It's like being really firm
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: but being really kind.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And how has life changed since you've been bitter at
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: sitting these boundaries?
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Like you just have so much more time. You can't
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: like life is too short to do things you feel
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: obligated to do unless you're in a contract.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't really get out of that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Look, I'm really in this transitional evolution even with friendships
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: with family members, Like really, I'm doing some big stuff,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: ending some big relationships that have required endings for a
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: long time that I haven't been able to do out
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: of obligation. And you don't. No one deserves anything from
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: you if they're not meeting you. And it feels so good.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that. There are parts of me, like
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: the shadowy parts of myself that don't miss them, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: and the comfort of certain parts of the relationship, but
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: the commitment to myself is more important than that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: So how would you describe how life feels right now
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: for you?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Really exciting? Thursday wasn't so exciting. Today is really exciting.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: There is a lot of movement, there's a lot of change,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: but I am so willing to evolve and just I
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: think I've had that weird, you know, society impact on
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: me where I have to keep scaling and growing and scaling,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: and now I'm just like, no, no, I'm just.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Going to I'm going to downsize.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Yes, the quality of what I've got out there is
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: so high, it's ever green. We don't. I don't need
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: need to do more without that happening really organically.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Or if there was a quote that you live by
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: or you think there's a quote that is such a
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: good mantra for one's life, there's one. Pop to the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: top of your head.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: I've got one. You had to We did this for
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the book, and I was like, asking you shall receive
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: and it's actually that quote is actually in the Bible,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: and so we had to like reference the Bible. And
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: then they were like, you're definitely setting the wrong tone
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: for the book. So I removed asking you to receive
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: to whether you think it's true or not. Hang on,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: it's oh my god, whether you think it? What do
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: you think it's true or not?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is some of the one like that, like
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: whether you think you can or not? You're right as well.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love that because it's the same thing.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: There's too many like I love let go or be dragged.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: That's one of my favorites from my therapist because she's
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: very My therapist is like a psychologist, but she's definitely
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: spiritually inclined. And we had this real we had an
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: amazing session and we kind of I guess I said that,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: and she's kept it forever as a reminder to me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Is like, you know, you can choose the hard way
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: or the easy way, it's still going to be the way.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really good.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: For someone who's in a bit of a rut at
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: the moment, feeling like they're not loving their best life
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: and there's so much more that they want to be achieving,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: but they just feel.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Like they're kind of stuck. Do you have any advice
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to get out of that rut?
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, join the membership, use me to your disposu
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: come in. Do you know something really seriously though, within
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: that community is having people around you to inspire you.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: We call them rises, and they're people that show, like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: you know how you were like comparing yourself to the
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: girl at the radio station, being able to transform her
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: into if you wanted that you didn't want that, right,
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: but say that you did. Transforming that envy into someone
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: that stretches you, that you can talk to, that you're
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: inspired by is such an amazing way. And within the community,
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: you have all these people every day going oh my god,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I'm stuck. I'm in a rut, and you have someone
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: else coming up with this helped me? Or did you
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: try this or this meditation is amazing, or did you
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: do the Inner Child workshop? And then you've got people
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: that are there to champion you. You've got people there
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: that can help you do priming phone calls. Like I
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: think staying accountable is the biggest thing. It's kind of
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: like a gym work membership or losing weight or doing
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: something new. You have to have accountability. And that's why
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I created the community is because and I'm talking about
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: the Arise community is because when I was in this
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: ten years ago and there was no one doing it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: It's so hard to stay committed and to believe. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: even when you've called in everything and you've taken the
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: aligned action and you've done everything, and you're in the abyss,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: which is the time where we wait for the manifestation
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: to occur, it's hard. Bit I hate the most, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: so having being in a space that's safe and you
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: can just be like I am dying here, like my
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: patience is running out what I do and they're like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: go back to trust, go back to gratitude, do like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: go back to the work. It's such a helpful thing
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: because when you're out on your loan like an island,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: and you're in the abyss. You're like, it doesn't work.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Fuck this shit. I'm going back to my old job
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: that I hate. So yeah, I've created the thing I
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: needed the most, and it's it's very impactful.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: So people can find it, just if we want to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: do a little fluggy blood plug.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I think it's I think, oh my gosh, I should notice.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I think it's a rise dot com dot A U
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: A R double I S E or on Instagram it's
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: a Rise ari I double A S E Underscore underscore
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: underscore because I fucked up the first.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Did you show charge of work?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys?
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Can you do adnan?
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  Speaker 2: Guys, there's like you're terrible and then no one asks
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  Speaker 2: you to do things.
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  Speaker 5: I know. It's a good, good technician, accomplishment woman.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm going to wrap this podcast up with
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  Speaker 4: some advice that you would give to your younger self.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say Zoe is the early twenties, she's just finding.
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  Speaker 2: Her way through life. What would be the biggest.
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  Speaker 4: Neugative wisdom that you would in part on younger Zoe.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to get really, really bad and then it's
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  Speaker 5: going to get really really good, So just have faith
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  Speaker 5: when you want to give up, but it gets really good,
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  Speaker 5: Like just trust.
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  Speaker 4: So beautiful, Zoe, and so nice to reconnect with you today.
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  Speaker 2: I just love because you talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Evolving and how you love growth and all of that,
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  Speaker 4: and I just feel like every time I see you,
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  Speaker 4: you're like an upgraded version of yourself.
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  Speaker 5: I love. That'd be terrible if I'd like gone backwards, right,
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  Speaker 5: You'd be like, what a disappointment? No, but you are.
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  Speaker 4: But like you grow, you just constantly shifting with whatever
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  Speaker 4: challenges are throwing your way. And I always looked at
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  Speaker 4: you as an inspiration. So thank you so much for
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: coming on the podcast today.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you beautiful girl, and can't wait to see you
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  Speaker 5: in real life one day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that was my chat with Zolly.
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  Speaker 4: I really hope you enjoyed it. Love to know what
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  Speaker 4: you got out of that conversation the most. I think
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  Speaker 4: some of my big takeaways were they're getting up thirty
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  Speaker 4: minutes earlier. It sounds like such a simple one, but
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  Speaker 4: even when she put it like, oh, if you've got
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  Speaker 4: to be tired, got to be thirty minutes earlier, you
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  Speaker 4: know you have.
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  Speaker 2: To be.
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  Speaker 4: Strict on sleep. Like sleep at the end of the
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: day is it runs us like honestly, we have to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: get strict on it. And I I'm, for one, am
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: very guilty it's staying up too late watching TV, particularly lately.
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  Speaker 4: So that was a really good reminder for me. And
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: also I loved when she was talking about the gatekeeper
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  Speaker 4: for your energy and being ruthless and really setting the
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: boundaries of who gets to come into your life, which,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: as she said, it sounds you know, it can sound
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  Speaker 4: quite brash and rude and brutal, but I mean, if
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  Speaker 4: you want to give the best version of yourself, you
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  Speaker 4: have to get really clear on who you want to
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  Speaker 4: bring into your world. And then finally, I really liked
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: that story when she hit that really shitty day and
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: just letting go when she hits the fan, instead of
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: trying to fix everything and going into just the biggest
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: state of overwhelm, actually removing yourself from that situation and
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: going to the beach, going.
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  Speaker 2: For a walk, whatever it is, just getting out of.
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  Speaker 4: That moment where the world feels like it's falling in
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  Speaker 4: or the sky feels like it's falling in, and actually
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: stepping back gives you the other perspective, So I really
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: like that not trying to push it in those situations
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  Speaker 4: and just taking a deep breath and realizing it's actually
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  Speaker 4: not the end of the world. But I would love
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  Speaker 4: to know what you got out of the chat this week,
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  Speaker 4: and you can help me up on Instagram, PJDJ see
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  Speaker 4: me a little message. I'd love to know of any
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: other people you think would be great to get on
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: for Slow It Down. Thank you so much for joining
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  Speaker 4: me for my first episode. I really appreciate it, and
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  Speaker 4: I'll see you next week.