Latest / Clean Water Conversations / Blue Green Connector: Restoring Lancaster’s Waterways

Transcript

Blue Green Connector: Restoring Lancaster’s Waterways · Clean Water Conversations

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: Clean Water Conversations is sponsored by Chesapeake Conservancy, working to conserve and restore the natural and cultural resources of the Chesapeake Bay watershed for the enjoyment and inspiration of this and future generations.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Chesapeake Conservancy, and now on to our show.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_03: Hello everyone, and welcome to Clean Water Conversations, the podcast where we have casual discussions about creating clean and clear waterways right here in Lancaster County.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ken.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, everybody.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Alison.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: Allison, it is beginning to look a lot like spring.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_02: It is, yes.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: And that means all kinds of different sensations, colors, smells, all the things.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm curious, thinking of your five senses, what are two of your favorite things that you get to experience in spring?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the first, hands down, is my sense of smell.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh which is really ironic because we're here in Lancaster County.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_03: I am talking about the the smell of the specific smell.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: The grass coming up, the the flowers that are blooming.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that absolutely love that.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_03: And the second one would probably be my sense of sight.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh because?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: Because we have a I'm not sure what kind of tree it is, growing right outside our building here, and it blooms beautiful pink.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that's a great example of some of the colors that pop in the spring.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: I absolutely love it.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_03: Very true, very true.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: How about you?
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, uh the changes.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: So it could be any of the five, I suppose, but the changes, like the seasons, uh I don't like a lot of the smells that come out in the spring.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: But yes, it's nice to see some pinks and greens and colors there.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I think it's also because the greens and pinks and purples and blues means that the vegetation is coming up from the implementation projects.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: So we've put so much money and so much time into all these projects that are going to result in clean water.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: But a lot of that is because there are plants and they have a root system and they hold back that sediment.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it means that the projects are in the ground.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: The plants are coming up to help that project succeed.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds like a really nice segue into the list of awesomeness.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what is on your list of awesomeness this time?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so many things, so many things.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna start off with uh the Lancaster Watershed Leadership Academy.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: We are in the thick of it with our 2025 class, which is definitely an awesome class.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: So we have had two in-person, two virtual, and lots more coming.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: We I would also say my list of awesomeness includes the common agenda revision process.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that is a document, like it's a tool for everybody to use to get us closer to clean and clear by 2040.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: But we need more voices, we need new thoughts.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: We are really, really grateful and working really hard towards that one common goal.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: But the details of how we got there, it's a new, new chapter.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: So looking forward to the new voices really filling that in.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: And Ken, so much in your world is awesome.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Tell us some details.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: What's on your list?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the very first thing on my list of awesomeness is we have the the countywide action plan, which shows us kind of guides us how to get to clean and clear by 2040.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: So the countywide action plan, or CAP, yeah, not gonna catch me on an acronym, uh, has a CAP coordinator team that is guiding the CAP.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: And so I am in the process of making a video kind of um I don't want to say bragging on our CAP coordinator team because they do awesome work.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_03: So it is a lot of fun to put that together and just and and show the awesomeness that is our CAP coordinator team.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, there you go.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: See you do the podcast.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: There's our sense of hearing.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: The video is gonna be our sense of sight.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna keep coming back to this five senses thing.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think anybody's invented smell of vision yet.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_03: So we might have to wait for that a little bit.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, like you said, just living in Lancaster, there is the smell.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Anything else on your list of awesomeness?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I am also helping to uh put information on our website and on some uh material for the 2025 Clean Water Fund.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_03: The small grant is about to be opened.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: So be on the lookout for information about that.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shout out to the Lancaster County Community Foundation for hosting that.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: And our amazing volunteer reviewers and the grantees.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: It is a really cool way to build your awesomeness of the projects you're doing.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, absolutely.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_03: And speaking of awesome, we have a great guest today.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, we do.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_03: Emily Landis is the Director of Education and Environmental Strategy at Little Conestoga Creek Foundation, which is through the Steinman Foundation.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: And she is kind of the point person for the blue-green connector project.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: And we will learn more about why you call it the Connector Project.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_03: Let's hit it.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: The Conservancy does something special where in February they do very intensive training.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you don't want to be out.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: You really can't be doing any volunteering.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we did um sessions on natural history, leading a hike and being a hike sweep, you know, how to make sure everyone was safe, leave no trace principles, uh, had a table at the preserve.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: So we're getting geared up for Shanks Ferry Wildflower Preserve, the uh peak season.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, I think it's been really nice to connect with them and just do more hiking, but also have it be part of that community.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: Let's take a step back.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get to know a little bit more about Jamley and our icebreaker.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_03: Your question is describe what life without your smartphone or other technology that you might use would be for 24 hours.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, great question.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, part of me would love being free, you know, from from uh addictive technology, obviously.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, I would miss two things.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh one is my my seek app because I'm always out walking and identifying plants.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what is that?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta add it to my observations.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm uh yeah, I'm definitely addicted.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: And uh oh, I'm also I wouldn't say I'm bad at directions, but if I didn't have my GPS, I think I'd default to um, you know, going online and printing out um directions from MapQuest.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Can you tell us what you do at this Diamond Foundation?
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely can, Allison.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I am the director of education and environmental strategy.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: And what that means is, well, I'm I'm primarily working on this big blue-green connector project.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it is uh an environmental restoration project, it is a trial system, and it also is a learning lab.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so the part that I'm spearheading is the learning lab component.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm working on a master plan to make sure that um learning will definitely happen on the blue-green connector.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: Got it.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that puts it in context.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we're gonna come back to many of those pieces.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: We definitely are.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's let's back up though.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_03: Where did first off, where did you grow up?
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: I did grow up in Lancaster.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: So started in the city and then moved a little ways outside the city near Columbia Avenue, and I graduated from Penn Manor.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Go Comets.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: And what in your childhood kind of led you to where you are now?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, I was definitely a feral child, I will say that.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: So my parents uh let me go down the street, and um I I was lucky enough to we backed up to the little Conestoga Creek.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: So right now my work today is working on restoring the little Conestoga Creek, and I spent days uh just playing, looking for crayfish, building forts.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so that that was formative for me, just uh being around outside.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh eventually really got into being a Girl Scout, uh, went went to a lot of sleepaway camp during the summer.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Remember going up to Acadia National Park and being blown away and just being like, oh, I love being out on trails and in nature.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: And um I my my parents also walked me over to the North Museum a lot when I was a young girl.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was obsessed with collecting rocks and looking for fossils.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I remember they had this room that uh all the rocks uh would glow.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think it must have been under a black light, but it blew my mind.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, you know, I think I think that that's when I decided that I was gonna become a biologist.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I also ended up be be uh being an archaeologist.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: I majored in biology and anthropology in college, and I think it was because of those experiences.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: All anchored in the little conestoga.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_03: Parents, you shape where your where your your kids' minds and hearts go.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: So true.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I had the I had a similar experience with the William Penn Museum in Harrisburg.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like captured my imagination.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I'm a history nut now.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you get that spark and yeah, who knows where you'll you'll take it.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: You spent time at the National Geographic, and then recently you're the executive directory executive director of the science factory, so it all comes full circle.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was very directory there.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: So what was that experience like?
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was awesome.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh a a wonderful adventure that I had had there over 10 years, and I uh continue to be inspired by their mission, uh, which is to inspire confidence and creativity and curiosity in kids, well, primarily K through eighth grade, but um really I think it's limitless uh in terms of who it's for.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and so uh we we focused, you know, as part of our mission as being a place that was for everyone, you know, it was an inclusive space that anyone could come into and and hopefully find that spark that that interest interested them in STEM.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um so you know, a lot of STEM.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, STEM.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Science, technology, engineering, math, sometimes with an A, arts.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Now you can use it as much as you want.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: All right, STEM is on the table.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah, STEM comes in lots of different flavors.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and well used at the science factory.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well used at the science factory.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we we definitely tried to uh create an environment that uh sparked joy and um created a sense of awe and wonder and really engaged kids that um, you know, maybe they were coming.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: I I heard a lot of people that had maybe one bad experience with math, and they'd come and they say, Science factory, I don't know if this is for me.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we would say that we succeeded when you you saw them come in, their eyes light up, um, they just immediately start running around, checking out the things that appealed to them.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, sometimes we'd be closing at five o'clock, I'd be pulling down the gate.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you can come back tomorrow.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: People really didn't want to leave.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, if you can really turn it around for um each individual as they come in um and create an identity shift where they realize that, hey, I'm I'm really good at science.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Science is kind of like the most fun subject.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: And this, this is really for me.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, all right, we can go home.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: We did it.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: You guys started to do that more with water wheat too.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: I remember hearing about people painting with water on the sidewalk, or it was something that would show up when it rains.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: There's a product that you can use to paint on concrete, and um, you can use like a template, and um, it only shows up when it rains.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, anyone can do it.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's really cool, Ken.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: That is cool.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: You can get as artistic as you want with it, Ken.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And it brings the learning outside, but it's so connected in an urban environment.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: I re it was such a great literal connector for water week events.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, tell us more about how the Science Factory started to connect with, but like take a leadership role within Likes or Water Week.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, we we love Water Week.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, been doing it for so long, and it's been awesome to see it grow every year.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think early on, we um we started right off the bat with doing a whole variety of different uh water week themed workshops for kids in grades K through eight um to make sure that they had an outlet for learning about clean water and building healthy ecosystems.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: And we always had a water week kickoff on first Friday.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I have a really fond memory of uh oh, Brian Gish from the Chesapeake Bay Foundation.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: He was doing he would always come out and do the rainfall simulator and get the kids wet, which is a ton of fun with Brian telling all of his jokes.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I was laughing and I was I was at the science cafe and we were painting brain barrels.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: So uh PCAD would do designs, water themed designs, and the kids would help fill them in.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: And um I looked around and um, oh, PCAD was there.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: We were doing art.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_04: What is PCAD?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, PCAD.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Pennsylvania College of Art and Design.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to PCAD, their Center for Creative Exploration is so much great art in the community.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: So uh that particular water week, they were making uh macroinvertebrate buddies.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: So they were like buddies, buddies, like 3D stuffed macroinvertebrates that the kids drew and made, and they were carrying them around underneath their arms.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we were in the maker space.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: We 3D printed macroinvertebrates.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Stroudwater Research Center has those macroinvertebrates that you can print.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I just was looking around at the um the science chaos happening at the science factory and had to laugh that everyone was carrying around a little macroinvertebrate buddies, little aquatic buddies.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know you succeeded when that's so fun.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: You were at the science factory when COVID hit.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: What lessons did you learn uh in in ways that you had to amend your lessons and lead them through that kind of transition period or unknowns and we're experiencing some things like that right now with federal funding freezes.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I'm really curious about what you experienced during COVID and are there is there anything that transfers to that?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: COVID was such a um, you know, wild and scary time.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I still remember going in and unplugging all the exhibits and shutting down the facility and not knowing when we would be able to reopen.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it was existential too, because you know, we were in the business of hands-on science, you know.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta be there, you gotta do it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's experiential learning.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh lots of high-touch surfaces in that facility.
• 15:38
  unknown: Right.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Lots of things you could touch and push and pull.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I think when our team got back together, it was all about how we could carry forth our mission in a way that was authentic to us and how we operated.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: And really, what we got good at doing was pivoting.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we we became professional dancers.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was just pivot, pivot.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so many great ideas came out, and we just got good at saying, let's try that.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's try that.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: We need to do something different.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: And um uh I just remember a whole variety of initiatives coming out of that.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and as we emerged too, we were a tighter and more effective team because we had gone through this crucible where we just had to try a lot of different strategies and see what fit.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: And it was also a changing landscape, you know.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: So things changed month to month and we had to respond and just be super nimble.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: So shout out, shout out to the science factory team, creative geniuses, all of that.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the other, the other lesson learned too kind of came from a you know, a funder's perspective.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I remember we were in the middle of our Elevate Curiosity Capital campaign, um, right in the middle.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we had already um done major construction and doubled our square footage in in the interior.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: So we made major progress, but we still needed to do the outdoor, the environmental sustainability themed outdoor courtyard, and that awesome sky bridge was yet to come.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So we were just in the in the thick of things, and obviously there was no construction happening.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, what to do?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: We had a lot of uh funders who had committed pledges over the course of three to five years.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so we went to them and said, listen, um, you know, we, you know, we need to take a pause, but uh, would you consider uh having your pledge go towards our annual operating um to help help us get through this?
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we had a resiliency fund and people uh really, really stepped up.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: They said, You're doing great work, and we know you're gonna continue this campaign in style and finish out uh when it's possible.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so the resiliency fund really helped us get through.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: And gosh, I feel so grateful that there were so many people that believed in the work that we were doing and knew that it was gonna uh continue and become bigger and better um when we when we came out of the the COVID crunch.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you for all that you did and the leadership that you provided for your team, but for Lancaster as well.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: I know those anchors of locations where people can feel safe and and included are essential parts of the community.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: So COVID and many others, thank you.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: How did all of that experience transition into your work for Steinman Foundation?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that question.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mentioned our outdoor courtyard with environmental sustainability theme.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: We hit all these topics in our exhibits at the science factory.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and we had to create a new icon for environmental sustainability once we started adding exhibits outside.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, solar-powered flour, we were collecting water from the roof, and you could recycle it with a cistern.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we had a rain garden and a pollinator garden, and there was a lot going on out there.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it kind of took over.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like uh we we realized this is a really important topic.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like we felt a sense of urgency.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we started designing new spaces inside, and we thought, well, we're just gonna continue this environmental sustainability theme.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot, a lot we can do here.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so uh we we built that momentum.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And as I transitioned, I I I kind of see this Blue Green Connector project as being one big science factory spun out along a 3.5 mile trail.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of opportunity for creative placemaking.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um this trail will be fully ADA accessible.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: So 12 feet wide.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's Americans with Disabilities Act.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: Americans with Disabilities Act.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, uh 3.5 mile trail, uh fully ADA accessible, uh, all the things that you can do alongside exhibits, uh demonstration areas, uh obviously interpretive signage, uh artwork, um, all sorts of things that uh create a space for learning uh that are creative and they're outdoors.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, I I see it as a natural progression of that work from the science factory.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Now you called it a three-headed monster.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: I assume you mean the different phases?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the three, I guess I would say the pillars of the project.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: The restoration, the trail, and the learning lab components.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, now what phase is it currently in?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, um, I would say we're we're kind of right in the middle, honestly.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: So just to give you a little context, you know, I think that this project started maybe back in 2019.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: And originally it involved uh the sale of the Conestoga house that was in the Steimeman family for many, many years.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they were aware that the little Conestoga Creek that runs just next to the Conestoga house there on Marietta Avenue was impaired and looked into taking the proceeds from the Conestoga House sale and putting it towards that restoration.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so it then kind of took on a life of its own because they said, well, could we also restore on the other side of Marietta Avenue?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then a little bit further up.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so they they used the proceeds of the sale to create the little Conestoga Creek Foundation, and this restoration proceeded.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then it became, well, couldn't we also add a trail and the public could access the little Conestoga Creek?
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's kind of hidden back there, but it's a beautiful environment.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: And let's add this ADA trail so that everyone can appreciate it, uh, especially since we're restoring it and we're creating this connector.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, to their credit, uh they thought, you know, this is also a golden learning opportunity.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, how can we make sure that as people are enjoying the trail, they really see what's happened from a restoration standpoint, be inspired by actions that they could take, uh, and really just with this goal of catalyzing further restoration and action around the waterways in Lancaster County, just layer in these, these, these educational opportunities.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: So, so yeah, I'm I'm kind of part of that third wave, the educational component.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I It's the the most fun, fun stuff.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: I can definitely see your passion and your excitement about this project when you talk about it and how it is going to be integrated into the community.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Can you tell us some of your favorite little nuggets about maybe it's a part on the trail or why this is the right timing for this kind of education or this kind of peace within Lancaster?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's lots of little parts.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: I have a whole map and there's cool exhibits sprinkled along the entire trail.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking of the Knoll Dorworth trailhead that will be under construction this year, 2025 into 2026.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that might be a good place to start.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we are looking to redo the trailhead right now.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of grass and it's a really well-loved park.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: People go and take their dogs.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, there's the dog park.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: And uh what we're going to do in partnership with the Alliance for the Chesapeake Bay is to uh do some reforestation.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: So adding a lot of native trees and shrubs.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: And we are going to add a wildflower meadow.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: And there will be Oh, I love a good meadow.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: You do love a good meadow.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gotta love a good meadow, right?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: So there will be a pavilion there, and um, there will also be a labyrinth there that we have designed.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: The kind you can walk on, the kind you can walk on.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Bit of wellness in nature component.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: But we have a um a green footprint uh path planned.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: So there'll be seven stops where you can stop and appreciate each of the different healthy ecosystems that have been restored there, including the the wetlands where it's it's great for bird bird watching.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of red-winged blackbirds out there, um, ton of biodiversity.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you go with your Merlin app, you can listen to all the birds coming through.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then you can learn about green infrastructure.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: And really the whole purpose is to inspire people to get ideas for uh how they can clean water and restore habitat at home.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_03: That is awesome.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: How much of your, I'll say official like museum training for structure and syllabi and how much of that is do you feel like is an anchor for your work, or how much of this is creative flow along the way?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, that's a great question.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you think about exhibits, I think a lot of my work is grounded in what makes a good exhibit.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: So it has to be awesome.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: It has to give you that like, whoa.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: It has to be educational.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's there's a takeaway.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, it has to be practical and functional and you know, durable outdoors, for instance.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's different.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: This built environment thinking, yeah, I got a chance to learn a lot about.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so another thing at the Nol Dorwart uh trailhead is we will have a kiosk dedicated to wayfinding and trail user essentials, but more importantly, uh clean water.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: So having a 3D topo map of our watershed so that people could figure out where they're at, understand how our watershed works and where the little Conestuka Creek fits in, uh, and then some actions they could take to help clean water in Leicester.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: At the trailhead, that will be front and center.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not just a little kiosk, but it'll be something that you can pass through and have an interactive moment with that 3D topo map.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: So that's just an example of the um kind of exhibit background that I'm applying on the trail.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: So fun.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: And you said that's 25-26 that that project?
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Getting ready for it.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm already thinking of where can our next live that we can be doing topographic things at the same time.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Emily, you are on the panel of the Trailblazers unlocking the potential of outdoor recreation seminar in September.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: It was hosted by Hourglass, which was really, really cool.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: How did you become involved in that project?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Diana Martin called me up and said, Hey, there's a lot going on with outdoor recreation in Lancaster County.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: You want to share more about what you're working on?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, oh, there's definitely momentum.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I'm thinking about how transformative some of the trail projects uh around Lancaster have been.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, certainly Northwest River Trail.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's been amazing to see um the positive impacts and you know, so many, so many businesses sprouting up in in Columbia and elsewhere.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm thinking the Enola Low Grade Trail just continuing to make connections.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: What a fun destination.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the Conservancy has been adding a ton of universally accessible trails.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: They have uh three open now and more planned.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we're we're just seeing a lot of momentum around um trail building, the outdoor recreation economy, and how people can plug in and all the mini benefits to quality of life and recreation and transportation that Lancaster stands to benefit from.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: So we're we're going places.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: They add a such a neat program and just the idea of making Lancaster the hub of outdoor activities.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: We have so much here to work with.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think that Lancaster is the place that this is happening?
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like the blue-green corridor or connector project, why is it in Lancaster?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously the Steinman family connection, and thank you for that history of the Conestoga house.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: I hadn't put those pieces together.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: But the fact that it's three and a half miles, the scale of it, why why do you think that's uh Lancaster is the place where that's happening?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's interesting.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it connects a lot of things that maybe are kind of constrained by development, uh, and it creates that greenway space along the stream.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's a big trend towards looking more closely and embracing our waterways in Lancaster County and not wanting them to be hidden, wanting to get closer to them and have them be accessible to everyone.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think the blue-green connector honestly is just so practical.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why is it happening there?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Once you start to see where you can go on the trail, you're like, oh gosh, this will be like really helpful that you could just buzz right up to a medicine like a Sir General Health campus.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe you have an appointment.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe you work at um Park City and you want to take a mental health break and um, you know, just explore and hop on your bike and go.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there's so many apartments and residential areas.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: There's Woodcrest Villa, so there's retirement communities.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's really kind of a way to connect all these different destinations and people together.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I think there's a need, you know, Lankster's very popular.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: There's people moving in, it's becoming more densely populated.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it is well loved and having this sort of practical way, you know, the traffic's not getting any better anytime soon, Ken.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you can if you can walk or bike there, won't that be great?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Ken, you've talked about that outdoor economy event with with just grave reviews.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like that you're describing more of that example, I suppose, of the connector piece and how we are connected by water, but we can't always walk through the creeks.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: And not everybody feels like they have access to that.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess I'm trying to make sure I'm reflecting back what I'm hearing correctly and the potential of something like the Glue Green Connector project.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think there's I was surprised to hear from community members how much they want a green space where they can find quiet, um, maybe go to meditate, really a focus on well-being, um, maybe just a place to get away from uh the the sights and sounds of traffic.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so you could think of it as a major quality of life indicator if you know that you're within, let's say, five minutes of a place like that.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: I was on a call recently and people were asked what was their favorite place to go outside or favorite park, maybe.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: And every single person said the one that was closest to them.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: And because it was easy to access or because it was where they could take their kids and feel safe.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, I appreciate what you're saying and to know that you all are hearing that over and over again and the kind of service that this can provide back to Lancaster, lots of parts of Lancaster's community.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty awesome.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: And this is where it's starting.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I mentioned that it's 3.45 miles uh of ADA accessible trail.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's not to say that it can't continue, you know, at on either end in the future.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the intent is to catalyze more restoration, more trails.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we'll see where it goes.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta start somewhere.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: So Yeah.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: So, Emily, your role with the Little Conestoga project, which has had multiple names at multiple phases, and there's multiple, multiple people and and organizations involved.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Can you tell us a little bit more about this collaborative approach?
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because this project is an essential part of Lancaster's work to get towards clean and clear by 2040.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: But tell me more about what what this one looks like for you guys.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, sure.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: It takes a village.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think this project uh really exemplifies that collaborative approach that you know it's it's gonna take to get clean and clear by 2040.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: And guess who's involved?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: More than 40 landowners have given permission, have been part of this.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's huge.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's huge.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, four different municipalities working in partnership uh to make this possible, as well as um Lakswama and the Lancaster Area Sewer Authority.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: What is Laxwama?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Lancaster Lancaster County Solid Waste Management Authority.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Together we worked it all out.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Luxwama.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, a lot of people have uh supported this project and and made it possible, and uh all that collaboration is um is absolutely needed.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: So this idea of um creating a corridor too, I think is quite cool.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: So we're we're we have all these little bits of fragmented habitat and um uh we are linking them through this this greenway space of restored trail access as well.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: Ken, your marketing brain must be going a mile a minute.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pulling out a visual aid.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: People people at home can't see, but um I have our new logo, which will soon be on our new, newly relaunched website.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, yeah, we've been calling it the Little Conestoga Blue Green Corridor Project for quite some time, which is a mouthful.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, our our current website is uh uh LCCBGC.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and we uh got together and thought, you know, the the heart and soul of this project is really connection.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh corridor became connector.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay so the project is now the blue-green connector.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you could call it the connector for sure.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_03: And I did not buzz that acronym because she already said it.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I just you know, yeah.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: She's living that acronym.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: So what you can't see is our is our lovely logo featuring our spokesfrog.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we've been working hard on this.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, really love the way.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we we we wanted a focal point in the logo.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we chose this amphibian, this frog, because an amphibian uh connects land and water.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: It is an indicator species of you know, clean, healthy water.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And um it's it's also frankly just cute, and we need a name for it.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but this spokesfrog really shines, and I think that you could just you know hop on down the connector with Oh, there it is.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: Is there going to be a mascot involved?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think there should definitely be a uh a climbable frog sculpture someplace.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Just putting that A in this deck.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: And once you guys officially release that logo, I will put it in the episode notes.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: So Oh, most excellent.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could share a preview.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: We always talk about the list of awesomeness.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: What is on your list of awesome?
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: What's awesome in your world right now?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, uh, I'm gonna go with uh Nerd Alert, lifelong learning.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I am very proud to be participating in the uh Habitat Advocate program.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm about halfway done.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to be a graduate and an official uh habitat advocate this year.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then I also just joined the uh Penn State Master Watershed Steward program.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: So you're coming at it from all angles.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going coming in hot.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: Coming in hot for water.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: So learning a lot and uh yeah, be being part of these volunteer communities, I think is is exciting.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what's awesome to me right now.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: Those networks are huge and there's so many people.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: I I mean that they themselves are awesome.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: And the the ways that you connect with others.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's there's an energy with these groups too.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: It it really uh inspires me.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: So good, so good.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: Ken, we're fortunate, you know, some of the scholars in this year's Watershed Leadership Academy have been through those programs or are maybe part of your class right now.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: So always good to meet more.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_03: I love the networks that connect with other networks that connect with other networks.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's really cool.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can always say, Oh, I I know someone.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly right.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Do you need a rain garden planned someplace?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I know a few people who can help you out.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: I know a guy.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: That was Allison yesterday.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: It was me like dropping kids off at sports things, being like, Look, it's a sign for Emily.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sending her pictures.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Text that on in the front yard of Manheim Township School.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: So now we have come to my favorite time of the show, and that is trivia time.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Woo-hoo!
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: So you are a Renaissance woman, interested in all kinds of things: science, history, hiking, photography, adventuring.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: You've visited 47 countries and 42 states.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm more than a little jealous, by the way.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: So the first question in the category of travel what is the tallest building in the world currently and where is it located?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, uh, that's gotta be in the UAE, United Arab Emirates.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what is it?
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: The uh the something khalifa?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm gonna give it to Bird Khalifa.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: Nice job.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Have you been there?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oof, not yet.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: Not yet.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's only a matter of time.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: Also in the category of travel, which iconic structure is found in India that is considered one of the seven wonders of the world?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the Taj Mahal.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_03: It is the Taj Mahal.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: Very good.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: This is hiking and history.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: During the Second World War, all hiking signposts in what European country were taken down to avoid revealing valuable route information to potential invaders.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_03: What country would they have done that in?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, would that be England?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: So close!
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: Switzerland.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Switzerland.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: Under travel, what do they call Belgian waffles in Belgium?
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I shouldn't know that.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: I ate one.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: Belgian waffle.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh stroop waffle?
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: They call them Brussels waffles.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: Brussels waffle.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Does that ring a bell?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: You heard that?
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: I ate a waffle in Brussels and it was delicious.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I remember right now.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't I don't know if they have a different name for Brussels sprouts.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say I had Brussels sprouts for dinner last night, and a waffle would have been much better.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: Note yourself.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: Under the category of photography, the word photography comes from the Greek word photos and graphe, which literally means what?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, photos.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean that has to mean light.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Graphe writing?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know what is so close, I'm gonna give it to you.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's drawing with light.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Drawing with life.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Light.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh under travel.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: Which four presidents are on Mount Rushmore?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, here we go.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: So we've got Washington.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: We do.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we've got Lincoln.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: And we've got Teddy Roosevelt's up there, right?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he sure is.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, oh, you know, it's probably what would TJ do?
• 38:38
  unknown: Oh.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Thomas Jefferson, thank you.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: Thomas Jefferson.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_03: Nice job.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Under history, what is considered the largest empire in history?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go Roman.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's where I would have gone too.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's actually the Mongol Empire.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, should have known.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: Under photography, FPS is the rate at which pictures can be taken.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: What does FPS stand for?
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: Frames per second.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: I go there.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: It took me forever, but I got there.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: Under hiking, I don't expect you to know this, but I wanted to name drop.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_03: Hawk Rock is a lookout point along the Appalachian Trail in this Perry County town, which also happens to be where I grew up.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, Hawk Rock.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: I know Hawk Mountain, which is an awesome place to go to see raptors.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: Different place, yeah.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Different place.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, tell me more about Hawk Rock.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: It was right off the town of Duncan, which is uh very much known for taking in and catering to the hikers on the Appalachian Trail.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: Under travel, in which country would you find the Trans-Siberian Railway?
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: Russia.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: It is Russia, yes.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: And just because I'm curious, in which country would you find the Trans Siberian Orchestra?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Are they, I want to say they're European.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're actually American.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: And they would be in America right now because they're not on tour in March.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're legends.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think we can all agree.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's our trivia.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's our show.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much, Emily, for coming in and telling us about especially the blue-green connector project.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: I almost said the wrong one.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that is just that's awesome what you guys are doing.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's really cool.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: I had a blast, and um, I should let you know the blue-green connector will be completed in phases, and we're, you know, we're hopeful that um it will be uh wrapping up in 2028.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Hope to see you on the trail.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thanks for all the leadership that you provided and what you're bringing to Lancaster as a community.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: It it is pretty amazing.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you, thank you.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: That is our show, and we will be back in just a couple of weeks.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_03: Until then, take care.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_03: Bye, everybody.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: This episode of Clean Water Conversations is sponsored by Chesapeake Conservancy.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: Conserve, restore, and empower with data.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: And produced by Lancaster Clean Water Partners, striving for clean and clear waterways by 2040.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_03: If you have comments or suggestions for show topics or are interested in becoming a sponsor, please contact us at info at Lancaster Cleanwater Partners.com.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for listening.