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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 11-4-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: This is the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Hump Day, everybody. Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: the operation down here. But we need to talk about
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in the world of college football. We
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  Speaker 2: need to talk about what's going on around the landscape
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  Speaker 2: of the NHL. And of course, we need to talk
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  Speaker 2: holy war. Steve Tate's going to join us toward the
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  Speaker 2: end of the show. Brandon Doman, the former BYU quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: is going to join us at noon. Sammy Mora from
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  Speaker 2: Ute Zone to talk an undefeated Utah football squad. We're
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  Speaker 2: rolling here on a Wednesday. The official college football playoff
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  Speaker 2: rankings are out, the first ones. And the reaction is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what the committee and the network hope it is.
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  Speaker 2: I swear they do it on purpose, where they just
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  Speaker 2: give you a, huh, a what the bleep, so that
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  Speaker 2: you can drive some conversation. Number one, Miami. All right,
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. Sounds good. Number two, Georgia. Okay, predictable. Number three,
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  Speaker 2: your University of Utah football team, coached by Morgan Scali,
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  Speaker 2: the Utes. Number three in the initial inaugural draft. college
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  Speaker 2: football playoff rankings, Indiana, number four, Alabama, number five, because
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  Speaker 2: this committee loves Alabama football. Like I love chocolate milk
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  Speaker 2: and string cheese. This committee loves Alabama football as much
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  Speaker 2: as my wife enjoys ordering Amazon packages. The college football
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  Speaker 2: playoff committee likes overvaluing the Alabama Crimson Tide every single
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  Speaker 2: year the same way your BYU fan neighbor likes a
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  Speaker 2: cougar tail. They just love the Crimson Tide. Kentucky, who
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  Speaker 2: we have not talked about nearly enough on this show,
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  Speaker 2: number six. Texas, number seven. UCLA, number eight. Criminally underrated,
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  Speaker 2: the UCLA Bruins right now. BYU sitting at nine, Ole
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  Speaker 2: Miss at 10, Notre Dame at 11, Ohio State at 12.
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  Speaker 2: And things get interesting. Tennessee, LSU, Texas Tech, 13, 14, 15.
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  Speaker 2: Wake Forest, the fighting Jake Dickerts, former Washington State head coach,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Dickert, is at number 16 with Wake Forest. Houston
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  Speaker 2: is 17. Missouri is 18. Iowa is 19. USC is 20.
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  Speaker 2: So the committee, here's a quote. When you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: compare teams head to head, you have to be in
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  Speaker 2: the same pod to be compared head to head. They
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  Speaker 2: put them into these pods. Alabama and Kentucky were in
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  Speaker 2: the same pod. They were compared because of their head
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  Speaker 2: to head matchup. Alabama got the nod of ahead of
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky because of that. BYU ahead of Notre Dame because
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  Speaker 2: they're in the same pod and BYU got the win.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how it should be in the college football
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  Speaker 2: playoff rankings. That's not how it is in the AP poll,
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  Speaker 2: but the AP poll is now rendered obsolete by this.
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  Speaker 2: Most importantly for your Utah football team, they are sitting
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  Speaker 2: at number three. They are in a situation where where
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  Speaker 2: they are fully in control of their own destiny with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of football left to play. No one's going
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  Speaker 2: to get ahead of themselves. It is nothing more than
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  Speaker 2: a talking point than a conversation. And that's exactly why
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  Speaker 2: the rankings look like they look. Here's another one from Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: You're a check. The committee still has a lot of
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  Speaker 2: respect for Ohio state and who they are as a
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  Speaker 2: football team this year. They do have a very impressive
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  Speaker 2: win on the road and Indiana that came down to
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  Speaker 2: the wire. but they didn't look like the same Ohio
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  Speaker 2: state team this past weekend against Southern Cal. You don't
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  Speaker 2: say USC who you will never find me defending the
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  Speaker 2: USC Trojans, USC looking up eight spots at an Ohio
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  Speaker 2: state team that they beat would be wildly frustrating. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, these initial college football playoff
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  Speaker 2: rankings are just as meaningless as As the AP poll
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  Speaker 2: that we were talking about for the first eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, these also will
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  Speaker 2: be inconsequential and not matter one lick. The initial ones.
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  Speaker 2: Where Utah is at is a good place to be
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  Speaker 2: and you can stay exactly where you're at. This is...
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  Speaker 2: Nothing more than a talking point. I promise you, but
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  Speaker 2: it's one we're going to use. And look, staying above
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  Speaker 2: that weird talking point that, Hey, we've got a win
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  Speaker 2: over this team and this team is still ranked behind us.
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  Speaker 2: And we're UCLA. We've got an undefeated record right now,
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  Speaker 2: but you've got a two loss team in front of us.
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  Speaker 2: All of these things come out in the wash as
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  Speaker 2: these college football playoff rankings come out. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: there's almost like a, a shrug and a smile from
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  Speaker 2: the committee when it says, well, you know, this weekend
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  Speaker 2: is going to shake this whole thing up again, because
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  Speaker 2: you've got ranked versus ranked all up and down the
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  Speaker 2: quality wins. And as much as I hate the term,
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  Speaker 2: the quality losses are really going to be factored in
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  Speaker 2: even more aggressively, even more significantly coming out of this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: which of course includes the most important game on Utah slate,
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  Speaker 2: the BYU football game. Starting off the day in college football,
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  Speaker 2: 10 AM kickoff. We're going to talk a lot more
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  Speaker 2: about that. Obviously we have a ton of guests leaning
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  Speaker 2: toward that, but I, I spent time on the show
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  Speaker 2: yesterday going through blind stat comparisons and you can find
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  Speaker 2: them at real OC sports on Twitter. I put some
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  Speaker 2: more up yesterday. I think we got to the linebacker
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  Speaker 2: room maybe before the show ended and Maybe we got
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  Speaker 2: all the way to the wide receivers. I went out there,
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  Speaker 2: and these might be the two most important positional matchups,
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  Speaker 2: positional duels happening in this upcoming Holy War game, but
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave these on the shelf without
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  Speaker 2: actually discussing them on the air. Running back rooms at
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  Speaker 2: BYU and Utah, right? For BYU, they're bringing back last
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  Speaker 2: year's offensive player of the year in the big 12
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  Speaker 2: conference and LJ Martin, they're bringing back Sione Mawa, who's
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  Speaker 2: nearly as talented, an absolute nightmare to try to tackle, right?
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  Speaker 2: They've got a couple other guys like journey Tonga, some
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  Speaker 2: of these young players, uh, the Rex kid where you're like, okay, wow. They've,
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  Speaker 2: they've actually got some depth and they've got one of
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  Speaker 2: the top flight talents at the position in the whole
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  Speaker 2: country and LJ Martin, uh, but LJ Martin has been
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  Speaker 2: out of the lineup and LJ Martin might be coming
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  Speaker 2: back for the Utah football game. As we have discussed,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know how healthy he will be. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know how explosive he will be. He might be his,
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  Speaker 2: his old self and create a bunch of problems. He
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  Speaker 2: might be hobbled. You have to account for both possibilities.
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  Speaker 2: If you're Colton Swan in this Utah defense, but the
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  Speaker 2: running back room comparison was really interesting for me because of, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the way that you, you just have to acknowledge right
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  Speaker 2: now that the information available to us, the stats available
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  Speaker 2: to us, I put it out like this running back room,
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  Speaker 2: a 930 total yards, 11 touchdowns, 5.9 yards of carry
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  Speaker 2: incredibly solid just from the running backs. That's not wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: That's not end arounds. That's not strange jet motions from
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  Speaker 2: tight ends or hybrid players. That's not your mobile quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: getting involved because both of these teams have one. 930 yards,
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  Speaker 2: 11 touchdowns, 5.9 yards of carry. Running back room B, 1,137
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  Speaker 2: total yards. I should say just rushing yards because it's bad.
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  Speaker 2: 13 touchdowns, 6.9 yards per carry. 1,137 total yards, 13 touchdowns, 6.9
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  Speaker 2: yards a carry from the running back room at large
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  Speaker 2: in running back room B. Room A, 930, so you're
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  Speaker 2: outpacing them by 200-plus yards. A couple more touchdowns, one
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  Speaker 2: yard extra per carry in running back room B. That,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to fool you here.
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  Speaker 2: These blind stat comparisons are actually for position groups you
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  Speaker 2: pay attention to. Running back room B is the University
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  Speaker 2: of Utah, is the group led by Way Sean Parker,
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Bray. Even Steven Chavez Soto got on the board
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  Speaker 2: with the touchdown this year. Running back room B is
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  Speaker 2: 200 yards, two touchdowns and one yard per carry better
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  Speaker 2: than room a and room a was the one that
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  Speaker 2: brings back or brought back the conference offensive player of
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  Speaker 2: the year. The reason that is so significant is because
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  Speaker 2: injuries will tell an entire story of a season. I
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  Speaker 2: love way Sean Parker. I think he's one of the
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  Speaker 2: best running backs in the country. Pro football network, I
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  Speaker 2: think has him as the highest graded overall running back
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  Speaker 2: in the country. These stats of course, don't account for
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  Speaker 2: his blocking his effect away from the ball when he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have the ball in his hand. Also guess what
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  Speaker 2: these don't do. They don't talk about him as a
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  Speaker 2: pass catcher. And this is where running back room B
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  Speaker 2: also outpaces running back room. A Utah's running back room
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  Speaker 2: has been drastically more productive than BYU's. And that to
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  Speaker 2: me is a defiance of preseason expectation because BYU does
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  Speaker 2: not have any touchdowns from the running back room in
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  Speaker 2: the passing game. I'm looking and making sure that I
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  Speaker 2: saw that correctly last night. I think I did zero
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  Speaker 2: receiving touchdowns from the running back room, Utah's got five.
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  Speaker 2: So when you, if I threw in receiving touchdowns, the
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  Speaker 2: way that the Utah running back room outpaces the production
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  Speaker 2: of the BYU running back room gets more significant. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about 18 touchdowns accounted for by your running backs.
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  Speaker 2: to 11 for BYU. And again, if LJ Martin had
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  Speaker 2: been healthy all year, the numbers would definitively be better.
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  Speaker 2: Here's another thing to consider when we're talking about LJ Martin,
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  Speaker 2: potentially returning to the lineup against Utah or not. LJ
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  Speaker 2: Martin is averaging 11 carries a game right now for BYU.
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  Speaker 2: Are they magically going to give him 25 coming off
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  Speaker 2: an injury against Utah? I have a hard time believing
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  Speaker 2: that they would. He's averaging about seven yards a carry.
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  Speaker 2: If he goes 11 carries for 77 yards against Utah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big difference maker in the game. I also
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  Speaker 2: don't think they would bring him back to only give
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  Speaker 2: him 11 carries. But, man, my head is spinning on
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  Speaker 2: this thing because relative to what we expected in the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that the running back tandem at BYU, LJ
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  Speaker 2: Martin being the main driving force there, but then Sione Moa, incredible.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that would be too steep a hill to
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  Speaker 2: climb for Utah to try to outpace that, to try
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  Speaker 2: to compare favorably to that production. Guess what? Utah's running
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  Speaker 2: back room is better, is more productive. Better can be
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  Speaker 2: a term that people conflate and use the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that they're more talented. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that they're deeper. Injuries have made it so that in practicality,
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  Speaker 2: Utah's room has been deeper because not only was LJ
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  Speaker 2: Martin hurt, Sione Moa has missed significant time. And BYU
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  Speaker 2: gets credit for being a one loss team, despite the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they had to do it without some of
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  Speaker 2: their best players, some of their most important offensive players,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, go vote on the poll at real
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  Speaker 2: OC sports on all these blind stack comparisons. I did
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  Speaker 2: the safeties. I did the corners. I did the running
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  Speaker 2: backs last night. I'll do the, we'll talk about the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: We did the wide receiver room on the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: If I told you pre-season that coming into this holy
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  Speaker 2: war game, Utah's running back room would have eight more touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, seven more touchdowns accounted for than BYU is
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  Speaker 2: running back room. Even the most crimson goggled of you
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  Speaker 2: would have said that feels like a stretch man, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the reality right now. And BYU fans go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and bring up the strength of schedule. Yes, doing it
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  Speaker 2: against Arizona and Notre Dame is harder than doing it
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  Speaker 2: against Utah State. It's fine. But all we have to
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  Speaker 2: go on is what has actually happened in this college
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  Speaker 2: football season. There's no hypotheticals. And these stat comparisons aren't
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  Speaker 2: going to matter at all once the first whistle sounds
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday morning. But they're informative for me because of
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  Speaker 2: expectation versus reality. Way Sean Parker's availability and durability have
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  Speaker 2: made this a different comparison than if like BYU, guess what?
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  Speaker 2: BYU's running backs, all of whom I used to compile
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  Speaker 2: the stats for the running back room. Preston Rex, Journey Tonga,
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  Speaker 2: LJ Martin, Sione Moa, Devon Ika. I used all of
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  Speaker 2: their stats. I left out Charles Miska and Logan Payne
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  Speaker 2: because you're not going to see them in the Holy war.
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  Speaker 2: It's what they have done is not relevant to the
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  Speaker 2: Holy war. They are garbage time players. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: they're garbage players, but they're players who've only played in
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  Speaker 2: garbage time. So I left their stats out. James, if,
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  Speaker 2: if you'll indulge me here, the, the players I just mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: Preston Rex journey, Tonga, LJ, Martin, Sione, Moa, Devon, Eka.
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  Speaker 2: How many of those guys have registered a running stat
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  Speaker 2: or played in all eight of BYU's games so far?
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 2, one it's zero, zero. None of them have
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  Speaker 2: played in every game. Speaker 3, that was gonna, that
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be my next guest. So I'm like, Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The injuries they've had, they've been out all game. Preston
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  Speaker 2: Rex has played in seven of the eight, but, and
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  Speaker 2: they held him out. I think they held him out
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  Speaker 2: last week for kind of like precautionary reasons, potentially Preston
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  Speaker 2: Rex has played in seven journey. Tonga has played in six.
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  Speaker 2: LJ Martin has only played in four games. Sione, Moa Devon,
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  Speaker 2: they've only played in three games. So Would this stack
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  Speaker 2: comparison be different if those guys were healthy? Yes, of
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  Speaker 2: course it would. But the reality of the situation right
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  Speaker 2: now is that's what we have to go on. And
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  Speaker 2: that favors Utah pretty significantly with 18 touchdowns accounted for.
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  Speaker 2: So I put that out and the conversation is funny
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  Speaker 2: in the comments. Who's voting for room a, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: people that just can't bring themselves to vote for room
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  Speaker 2: B because they know that room B is Belongs to Utah.
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  Speaker 2: The safeties. Expectation versus reality. Which team was bringing back
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  Speaker 2: a highly thought of potential NFL draft pick type safety
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  Speaker 2: to come into this year? Who was that? Was that Utah?
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  Speaker 2: Or was that BYU? Was the conversation at Big 12
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  Speaker 2: media days and leading into this season, was it about
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  Speaker 2: Rabbit Evans or was it about Faletel Satawala? For the
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  Speaker 2: most part, it was a comparison favoring BYU. Raider Damuni
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  Speaker 2: being back there. I mean, again, injuries have changed the
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  Speaker 2: reality for BYU pretty significantly all season long. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the deal. They're still an incredibly talented football team. They
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  Speaker 2: have managed to make it through a Notre Dame contest
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  Speaker 2: victorious and And to arrive at this holy war with
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  Speaker 2: only one loss on their record, despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: their best overall player has missed half the season, that
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  Speaker 2: their second best safety has missed half the season, that
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  Speaker 2: their second best running back has missed more than half
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  Speaker 2: the season, right? We've seen this before. We know what
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  Speaker 2: this feels like and what this looks like. for the
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  Speaker 2: university of Utah, but BYU is still a one loss team,
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  Speaker 2: despite all of these things. And the big reason for
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  Speaker 2: that is a stack comparison. We're going to get to
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  Speaker 2: when we get to the quarterback room, but the safeties
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  Speaker 2: Which of these would you rather have? Which room would
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  Speaker 2: you rather have? Safety room A, 103 tackles, seven and
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  Speaker 2: a half tackles for loss, three sacks, 10 passes defended,
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  Speaker 2: four interceptions versus safety room B, 86 tackles, three and
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  Speaker 2: a half tackles for loss, no sacks at all, eight
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  Speaker 2: passes defended, one interception. When we left this conversation yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on the show, BYU had edged out the conversation with
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  Speaker 2: interior D-line, defensive ends, looking a little bit better. The
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver room favored BYU as well. 1,145 yards, 10
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns on 76 catches. So it was 3-2 going into it.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive line, defensive ends, wide receivers, giving BYU the slight
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  Speaker 2: edge in our comparisons. Linebacker and tight end, the comparisons
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  Speaker 2: favor the University of Utah. Running back room favors Utah
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  Speaker 2: pretty significantly. Safety room, 103 tackles, seven and a half
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  Speaker 2: tackles for loss, three sacks, 10 passes defended, four interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: That's Utah. So now we're getting into this conversation about,
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  Speaker 2: all right, there's a lot of close comparison here. The
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  Speaker 2: production of these units against one another or against the
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  Speaker 2: opposing comparative, the opposing equivalent is razor thin. The margins
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  Speaker 2: are close in this one. But the Utah safety room
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  Speaker 2: where our expectation was, The future NFL draft pick Faletel
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  Speaker 2: Satawala would be kind of leading that charge for BYU
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  Speaker 2: and would be a statistical monster. And look, he's a
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  Speaker 2: great player. He is. He's disruptive. He's blocked kicks this year.
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  Speaker 2: He's a great player. He's going to be an NFL
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  Speaker 2: draft pick. This is not about saying he's not what
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  Speaker 2: they expected him to be because he absolutely is. He
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  Speaker 2: individually has... 43, 43 total tackles, three tackles for loss,
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  Speaker 2: one interception, and two passes defended. Faletau Satawala is the
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  Speaker 2: reason that they get to remain in the comparative conversation
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  Speaker 2: because the guys around him are not pulling the same weight.
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  Speaker 2: In the safety room for Utah, Jackson, Benny, Nate, Richie,
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  Speaker 2: and Rabbit Evans have a nearly even distribution of total tackles.
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  Speaker 2: Benny officially has 36. Richie has 35. Rabbit Evans has 32. Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Benny has a sack as one and a half tackles
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  Speaker 2: for loss. Richie and rabbit Evans have three tackles for loss.
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  Speaker 3: Each.
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  Speaker 2: They each have a sack as well. So you see
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  Speaker 2: what it's like. Colton Swan has the chunky peanut butter
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  Speaker 2: and he's spreading it nice and thin across that toast, baby. James,
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  Speaker 2: if you're keeping score and I know you are, we
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  Speaker 2: are now safety room at Utah. better, more productive. I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't say better, more productive to this point, wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: room at BYU gets the slight edge running back room
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  Speaker 2: at Utah gets the edge linebacker room at Utah gets
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  Speaker 2: the edge tight end room at Utah gets the edge.
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  Speaker 2: BYU has the advantage with the D line and the
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  Speaker 2: D ends very slight advantage with the interior D line,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: pretty significant one with the defensive end statistically. And We're
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: now in a situation where statistical comparison-wise, and that's all
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: this conversation is, okay, but you use some of this
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: for your predictive abilities if you're making bets or if
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you're just trying to talk trash to your friends. Injuries
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: have decimated the production of a BYU running back room.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Utah is significantly more productive in that category. And the safeties...
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Another perceived strength for BYU. Again, Raider Damuni being injured
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: has forced a lot of that production to be, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in the lap of Faletel Satawala. Respect to Tommy Prasas
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: as well, who's done a decent job. But do you
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: see what's happening here? Utah is defying our preseason expectations
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and outpacing BYU, even in some of their areas of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: perceived strength. And that could be a massive thing in
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: this Holy War game that's coming. So yeah, you're, you're correct.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I am keeping track here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: So that's four rooms for Utah three for BYU. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: with the exception of, I think linebacker and running back,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: maybe safety as well. It's like a tie on these
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: other ones that BYU is not winning. And you could
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: say the same thing for Utah. Like it's very, it
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: is so neck and neck in all of these categories.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Which is probably the most important point that we need
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: to keep driving home because While Utah fans want to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: just take the dub and go for it and BYU
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: fans want to say, well, that doesn't count because you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: haven't played against the same level of competition that we
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: played against. Of course, your production is going to be
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: better against lesser competition. Like all of that matters here,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: but I wish I would have done this with the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Houston game. I can go back and do it with
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the Houston game. It is twins slugging it out. These
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: two teams are built in very similar fashion. There's some
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: personnel differences. Sure, there's some schematic differences, but the philosophy
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: behind both of these teams, they want balance. They want physicality.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: They want to call their defense relatively aggressively. They want
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to give their quarterback an opportunity with his legs and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: with his arm. They want to make sure that they
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: have a primary running back that has been robbed from BYU,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and they've had to kind of, you know, duct tape
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and chewing gum their way to the 7-1 record, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: we should be impressed that they have. But the statistical
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: comparison is so incredibly fascinating.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Isn't it also crazy you mentioned BYU's got this 7-1 record.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: We said Utah could be undefeated.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe BYU's 7-1 because we were all looking at the
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame game as a probable loss at the time.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: That's how it turned out, but BYU beat Notre Dame.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: That's what's crazy about all this as well.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And by the way, the, the playoff committee favors that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: win against Notre Dame, pretty aggressively BYU ranked number nine.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So very much in the college football playoff picture, despite
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: losing to UCF, they could have been punished more aggressively
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for a loss to a team like that, especially given
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: what UCF did the following Friday against Baylor, but that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: committee likes that Notre Dame win and they will continue
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to like that Notre Dame win, especially If the Irish
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: can get over the top against Miami this weekend. So this,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: this first initial playoff rankings and all the conversation and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the upset about it, we'll discuss, we'll use it. We'll
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: have fun. I promise you week two's rankings are going
• 27:32
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• 27:35
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• 27:40
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• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Utah welcoming BYU to the friendly confines of Rice-Eggles Stadium
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Morning kickoff, 10 a.m.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Game.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: There's been plenty of conversation about that, how it will
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: potentially affect things. Having talked with a couple of players
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and coaches, you know, both sides, both teams are going
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: to be adjusting their schedules this week. Earlier wake up,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: some film studies, some mandatory workouts, things like that in
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the morning, before school, before class, so that you're getting
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: your body going and acclimated as much as you can
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to that 10 a.m. kickoff. On game day itself.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll get some further insight from the coaches. We
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: have Coordinator's Corner coming up on Friday. Remind me to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: ask Colton Swann about it. but the routine can be
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: altered a little bit on game day, but not too much, right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: to accommodate the early wake-up. In any case, it's going
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to be an incredible game. It is between two top
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: ten teams for the very first time in the history
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: of the Holy War rivalry. Joining us now to talk
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: about it on a Ute Zone Wednesday, Sammy Mora. Friend
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: of the program, Utes Insider. Hi, Sammy. Welcome.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Hey, Sean.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. Hanging out. You know, we're almost there.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Big game coming up this weekend. Undefeated Utah football team.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And we'll start there. You know, just the magnitude of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the matchup. The fact that never before in the 104-year
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: history of this rivalry has it been two top ten
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: teams squaring off. What are your thoughts on that? on
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: just the overall magnitude of this game?
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: I think this is what people have always wanted with
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: this game. You know, regionally, locally, everyone knows how important
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: this game is and how big it is. But for
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: both teams to be playing at such a high level
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: right now, it's kind of added that national view on
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: the game. And, you know, I've seen more national outlets
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: talk about this game this week than I think I've
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: ever seen, even when, like... either Utah or BYU is
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: ranked or you know last year I correct me if
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: I'm wrong both teams were ranked headed into that game
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: like there was not as much national coverage about the
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: game but this year I think it's just because of
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: you know where Utah's at where BYU's at that more
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: people nationally are taking look at this game and honestly
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: in my opinion it's deserved like this game is is
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: probably one of the more underrated rivalries nationally and I
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: think that you know when you have two teams that
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: are playing at a high level the more nationalized you
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: can get on the game the better.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: There certainly will be a lot of them, and some
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of those will be the college football playoff committee who
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: put out their first rankings of the season last night. Thankfully,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Utah is kind of above the fray a little bit
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: because they're undefeated. They're number three, BYU down at number nine,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and once again, there's complaints about pro-Alabama bias, SEC biases
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: one way or the other. Some of the more I guess,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: eyebrow-raising rankings we've seen from the college football playoff committee,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: although ultimately they don't mean anything because we've got to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: wait until the season's actually done. But Utah sitting at three,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: what was your reaction to the first college football playoff
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: ranking of 2026?
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: If I'm going to be brutally honest, I was kind
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: of shocked. When I saw UCLA pop up where they
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: did and then I saw BYU pop up where they did,
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: I kind of figured Utah was going to be in
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: that position. four or five spot. But, you know, it's, it's,
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: it's discerning. It's deserved. Like the team is, is undefeated.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: They've been winning by, you know, large margin majority of the,
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: of the games this season. And it's just statistically.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Like the Cincinnati game kind of ruined it a little bit,
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: you know, but it's, it's, it feels kind of just,
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: but at the same time, I know that internally this
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: program is not satisfied. Like, and also they, to a
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: certain extent, don't truly understand.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Care.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: They just want to go 1-0 every week. They just
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: want to be playing for stuff when it really matters
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: in December. It's just a number, but it is good
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: that this program is getting national recognition because there's been
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: years where they haven't or the Big 12 hasn't or
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: even there were times in the Pac-12 where they didn't
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: get the respect that they deserve. It was slightly shocking,
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: but also kind of good to see Utah get the
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: respect that they deserved.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Certainly fun to see Utah the highest ranking since the
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: sugar bowl finish, right? That was number two, now number three.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And you talk about the team being satisfied, satisfied or
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: not being satisfied. How did they feel about the performance
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in Cincinnati? Because it was really kind of a tale
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of two halves. What really matters is you got the win,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a dominant win, even after some issues in the second half,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: but it was 42 to six at half. It only
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: scored seven points the rest of the way. how did
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: this team internally evaluate what happened in the second half
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati?
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a lot of just kind of
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: not satisfied. Like I asked Devin about it point blank
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: on Monday, just like what happened in that third quarter.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: And he said, you know, I, I need to be
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: better as the, as the quarterback of this team, because
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: everything runs through me on this offense. Um, and I,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: that's the accountability that you want to see from your quarterback,
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: someone that, you know, I saw him pop up on
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: a Heisman watch list the other day. Um, that's what
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: the accountability you want to see is, is it was good,
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: but you're never satisfied. And Morgan even acknowledged it earlier
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: in the week in his press conference, he said defensively,
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: the run fits weren't there. Things just kind of got
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: a little bit sloppy and got away from this team. And,
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: you know, I, I think they just kind of took
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: the foot off the gas a little bit and, you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: thankfully they had built up so big of a lead
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: that at the end of the day, it didn't really matter,
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: but You know, it's, it's, it's good that they're acknowledging
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: that something needed to be fixed because it would be
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: more concerning if they were just like, eh, doesn't really matter.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: Like we still won the game, but they did, they
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: did acknowledge what they needed to acknowledge, at least in
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: my eyes to kind of placate and satisfy that things
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: weren't as good as they could have been last week.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, nothing's ever as good as it could be,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I suppose, but I think it's fair to say that
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: we've yet to watch, even as an undefeated team, we've
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: yet to watch a full four quarters of Utah football
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: where it feels like they're near their best. It seems
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: like there's a quarter or even a half in each
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: game that doesn't live up to the standard of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: rest of the game. Against BYU, that might be problematic, right?
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Against Houston, it left you heading into halftime with no
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: points and things like that, so how do they correct
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: a problem that has been kind of a feature of
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: this team for eight weeks now?
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that like, To a certain extent, yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: it is slightly concerning that they haven't played a full
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: 60 minutes. But it also shows at the same time
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: that this team is not willing to roll over. They
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: easily could have rolled over versus Houston. They could have
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: rolled over versus Colorado. To a certain extent, they could
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: have rolled over versus Iowa State, but they didn't. They
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: continued to battle. They continued to push through it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: And.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: Even though there were lulls, that's encouraging for me that
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: they still fought because there would have been Utah teams
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: in the past where they would have just rolled over
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: and they just would have been like, okay, we're done.
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: We're not going to continue to fight in this game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: But for the way that Morgan has coached up this
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: team and the way that the rest of the assistants
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: have also done that is they're relentless. It's very much
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: that R in the RSNB culture. They're not going to
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: give up no matter what. They're not going to stop
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: playing and stop fighting until there's triple zeros on that clock. So, yeah,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: it might be slightly concerning that they haven't played a
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: full game, but I'm more impressed by the fact that
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: even when things got a little rough, they didn't just
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: throw in the towel. They continued to fight, and they
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: continued to push through whatever was going on.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this actual BYU matchup. This is a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: really solid Kalani Satake coached team. They are 7-1 on
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the season. They beat Notre Dame at home. They're in
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the top ten of the college football playoff rankings for
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: what I think is very deserved reasons. And they might
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: have L.J. Martin back when we get down to it
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: on Saturday. When you look at the matchup, where do
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you think the most crucial maybe individual matchups or positional
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: matchups are? Just your initial thoughts on the actual contest
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: against a really good Cougars team.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: I'm going to take a little bit of a different
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: approach with this one, but I think it's going to
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: be Utah's offensive playmakers versus BYU's poor tackling. BYU, according
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: to PFF, has missed 111 tackles already this season, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: that includes 23 from Cade Ulave, which is three less,
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: if my math is correct, than Jono, Trey, Cyrus, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: Elijah Ellis all combined. They've only missed 26 tackles as
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: a group this season, and Cade's missed 23. So how
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: is Utah's offense going to be able to exploit the
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: poor tackling of BYU? We saw it versus Houston. There
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: were so many missed tackles forced on this offense. You know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: way Sean had a couple Devin had few Braden Pagan
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: Noah Benny how are they going to be able to
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: exploit BYU's poor tackling because this has been something that
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: I have been thinking about and been watching and it's
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: been kind of a red flag for me with BYU
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: since you know the first game of the season the
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: cracks were already starting to show so how are they
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: going to exploit that I think that's something that's going
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: to be interesting to see and then on the on
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: the for the Utah defenses I the big thing is
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: how do you limit Bear Bachmeier because even if LJ's
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: back how effective is he going to be? Like he's
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: been out for the last, what, four or five weeks.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: His ankle was, you know, he has that ankle injury.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: So how is he going to be, how effective is
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: it going to be? Because honestly, we have seen firsthand
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: last year with Devin that when you're coming, when you're
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: trying to come back from an ankle injury too quickly,
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: it's not going to end well. And your play is
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: going to be limited. Your explosiveness is going to be limited.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: So I think that's, again, going to put more pressure
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: on Bear. And how can Utah limit Bear? I think
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: a lot of things were learned from that matchup last
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: year because, to a certain extent, Utah couldn't stop him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: And whether it was just poor tackling, bad execution, guys
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: taking the wrong moves, like, it's just... It's going to
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: be interesting to see how they can limit him because
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: if Utah can turn up the pressure on Bear and
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: force him to beat them with his arm, I kind
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: of tend to lean that's more Utah's way. Scooby Davis
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: had probably the best game of his career last week.
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: Eli Reid has seemed to turn a corner. James Chennault
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: has had some really high moments, but he's also had
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: some low moments, so which Bobo are you going to
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: get on Saturday? And Jackson, as much as people dog
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: on Benny, he is a stellar corner, or a stellar nickel.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: He can play... He plays well in these types of
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: situations in these games. And, you know, that's a hard
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: position to play. So if I would put my money
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: on the Utah secondary versus BYU's wide receivers and tight ends, but,
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: you know, we're just going to have to see because
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: I think Bear's going to be asked to carry the
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: ball a lot more than he would have wanted, given
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: if LJ was back or not.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: We've seen bear Bachmeier have to really kind of in
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: three games already this season, just be like, all right,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go win this for my team. And look,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: you could make an argument. He did that against Utah
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and Pro Bowl last year as well. So it's not
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: like he's not capable of it. When you say you
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: got to figure out how to limit bear Bachmeier, take
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it one step further. What does that look like? What
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: does it mean? Is it collapsing the pocket instead of
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: trying to get around your blocks and, and, you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: getting a sack, just keep them contained. Is it, like
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you said, forcing him to use his arm. He's really
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: solid with his arm now, but against Arizona State last week,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: he was forcing some balls in that I think will
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: be picked by a Utah defender. They weren't by a
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Sun Devil defender. When we're talking about what it actually
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: looks like to hurt that guy, to limit that guy,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: easier said than done, what do you think it actually
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: looks like, Sammy?
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a combination of everything you've said.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: Utah's done a really good job over the last few
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: weeks of mixing up their coverages between zone, man, all-out blitz.
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: Just everything that Colton Swan is throwing at opposing offenses
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: has caused havoc. I know that the defensive ends have
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: not played up to Utah standard, but they're still generating pressure.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: I think I saw last week Utah pressure had like
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: 71% pressure rate versus Cincinnati, and look at how that
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: worked out for J.C. French, who had been kind of
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: wheeling and dealing up until that point in the season.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: So I don't want to say you spy bear, because
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: if you spy bear, that's going to leave somebody else open,
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: and then that's going to cause a ton of headache.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: But Guys just need to own their 20 square feet.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: They need to contain. They need to ramp up that
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: pressure because, like you said, there were passes that weren't
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: picked off by Arizona State last week that could have
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: been picked off by Utah. And so if you can
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: force Bear to have to be in those passing situations,
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: I think that's kind of the MO, at least in
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: my opinion and my view, is how you can win
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: this one.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Sammy Moore is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's a Ute Zone Wednesday, and, of course, we're talking
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Holy War, the biggest game of the year, the biggest
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Holy War game potentially ever in the history of this
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: great rivalry, as never before have two top ten teams
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: squared off against one another. I know we already talked
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: about it a lot, but a 10 a.m. kickoff, how
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: does it affect Utah?
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: I don't really know how much it changes things. Obviously,
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: guys are going to have to get up a little
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: bit earlier. Jackson Benny said they're trying to do a
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: little bit more stuff earlier in the day this week
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: to kind of get body clocks on that wavelength and stuff.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: But Utah played a 10 a.m. kick versus Texas Tech
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: last year. And while the result wasn't what fans wanted,
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: for the most part, Utah was with Texas Tech for...
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: Three out of the four quarters, in my opinion. You know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: that fourth quarter is when things really kind of went
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: a little bit south, in my opinion.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: But.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: you know, Utah is going to get up for this game.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: Fans are going to get up for this game. I don't,
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: I think to a certain extent, too much is being
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: put on the kickoff time. It's just, it's, it's different.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: It's weird. It's something that not all, not all of
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: us are used to. Like I'm used to not getting
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: up at six or five in the morning to get
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: up to a game. I'm usually leaving my house around
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: five or six in the evening to get up to
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: a game because of how many late kickoffs Utah has.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: But you know, this 10 AM slot, actually it's, it's good.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: You're going to get a lot more national eyes on
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: this game. You know, people are going to become aware
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: of this game. There's going to be like playoff voters,
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: whatever Heisman voters, people that haven't watched a lot of
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: football are going to get to see what this team
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: is truly about. So I don't really know how much you,
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: you put into this 10 a.m. kick, but you know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: I think Kalani and Morgan will have both teams ready
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: to go for a kickoff.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: We had a Hunter Andrews breakout game at long last,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: against Cincinnati. You go back a few weeks, and Noah
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Benny had his, and Ricky Johnson had his, and Pagans
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: had probably a couple. Is there still somebody left in
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the lineup that you anticipate seeing a breakout game from,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and could it be against BYU?
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, it feels like every week we see someone
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: completely different. Like, funny enough, I was talking over on
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: our youth zone boards about how I felt the Hunter
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: Andrews breakout game was coming, and then it happened last week, so...
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: It's just one of those things where you don't really
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: know who it's going to be. I would say last
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: week was also a breakout game for Daniel Bray. He
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: had two touchdowns, and he was an influential part of
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: that win. But I don't really know. I feel like
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: for the most part, we kind of have an idea.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: My gut would say if there's one person we haven't
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: seen a breakout game from yet, it would be Creed.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: Creed has just been very consistent this season. He is
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: the guy that Devin likes to go to when they're
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: in that zone coverage because he's Creed just knows where
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: to sit down and where to just put himself in
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: a good position to make a catch. So if there's
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: one guy that we haven't seen a breakout from, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: would say it's Creed. I don't know if it's going
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: to happen this week. BYU likes to play that man coverage,
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: kind of like Utah. But, you know, Creed has the
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: ability to just turn on the jets and burn some guys,
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: especially Nichols. And, you know, if Evan Johnson doesn't play
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: for BYU, that's going to add some issues for their
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: secondary because how are you going to be able to
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: cover someone like Braden Pagan, Creed, Larry, Kyrie, Ricky, any
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: of those wide receivers that are playing at a high
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: level this season. Long answer for the short answer, which
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: would probably be Creed, is probably the next one that's
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: due for a breakout.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Zerway Williams started to get talked about a few weeks back,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and it's really ramping up now. He's part of an
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: overall offensive line that has been incredibly impressive this year,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: especially given the context of what departed I mean, a
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: new coach who's never coached in college football before, although
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: we know what Jordan Gross' credentials actually look like. But,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, you were on this train early with Zaraway.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: This is a guy that, you know, he's been in
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the program for a long time, so we know him well.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: It's like one of the feel-good stories for me right now,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: not only in the Utah sphere but in all of
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: college football, a guy who has stuck around and paid
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: his dues, and it looks like it's going to pay
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: off for him, Sammy.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Zaraway is just a key– He is
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: Utah's culture in, like, when you look at him. You know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: he came in not very highly rated. He sat. He
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: got injured a few years. He learned. He developed. He
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: was under, you know, Caleb and Spencer for such a
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: long time. And he bided his time, and he got
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: to where he needed to be. Like, there would have
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: been a lot of kids who would have just thrown
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: in the towel and transferred. But Z, like... like you
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: said he just kind of he buckled down he stayed
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: he was he's a feel-good story and you know we
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: we've been high on z for a long time over
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: on the zone boards and so for to see him
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: play at this level has just been so fun to
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: watch and like off the field he's such a great
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: guy he is he is one of the best media
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: scrums you will get every single year um just how
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: excited he is and how he always is there to
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: hype up his teammates and just be there for everybody
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: and you know, it's, it's great to see these types
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: of stories, especially when, you know, the transfer portal is
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: what it is. College football is changing by the day. But,
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: you know, nothing but love and respect for what he's done.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: And if, if he can be a first round draft pick,
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: even an early second round draft pick, you know, hats
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: off and tip of the cap to Jordan gross, because
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: he came in with big shoes to fill. And if
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: he can get someone drafted early and, In the draft
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: in his first year, you know, the sky's the limit
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: for him as a coach and the future and the
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: outlook of this Utah offensive line from here on out.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: How significant is this game going to be as a
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: recruiting weekend? I'm seeing this list of players, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: 50 guys long and everyone coming in from out of
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: town and the highest rated recruits in all the land.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Feels like it's going to be a big one from
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: a recruiting standpoint.
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're hearing about 50 to 55 recruits are going
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: to be in campus this weekend. A lot of them
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: are local kids because Morgan has made a very clear
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: focus that he wants to keep local talent here in Utah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: We saw this class with the 27 class he built.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: It's majority local kids. Texas is well-represented. Arizona is well-represented
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: as well, but he wants to keep the local talent home.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: He believes that the best football is being played here
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: in the state. And so you want to keep those
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: guys home. You want these kids that have dreamed of
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: being youth their entire lives be youth. And so it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: going to be massive. You know, it's, me and Dan Sorensen,
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: our publisher, we, we talked about it the other, like yesterday,
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: like we don't think we've ever seen a weekend that
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: has been this loaded with recruits and Dan's been doing
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: this for 20 years. And so it's, it's massive. And
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: you know, a lot of them are 28 kids. A
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: lot of them, there's a handful of 29 kids that
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: are going to be there. Like you're setting the foundation
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: now for what could be a stellar class in 28
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: and even in 29.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: How does the game go? What's your prediction?
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: Oh, God, Sean, why would you ask me this? This
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: game is so unpredictable because I feel like every year
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: it feels like something funky happens in this game. I
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: just have a feeling that this year that Utah is
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: able to do it. I just think there's something different
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: about this team than there was in years past. Um,
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's coaching with Morgan. I don't
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: know if it's play calling with McGiven or play calling
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: the Colton Swan. I just have a feeling that this
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: is the year that Utah can snap that BYU streak
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: and get back into the wind column in this game. And,
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to give a score prediction
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: because honestly, I don't know, like I could see the
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: game being a, I could see it being a 14
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: point win for Utah, but I could also see it being,
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: you know, a three-point win for utah like that's just
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: how this game goes there is no rhyme or reason
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: how things happen but i just there's just like this
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: this this feeling and this from studying film and looking
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: at the statistics i just think that utah has the
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: edge this year and can come away with the win.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody here is going to dispute that line of thinking
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: or that prediction sammy appreciate you giving us some time
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: as always and we'll see you up there.
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: On saturday Hey, we'll see you on Saturday bright and early, Sean.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: That's right. Rubbing the sleep out of the eyes. Sammy
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Mora will be there. I will be there. You should
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: be there for kickoff as well when Utah takes on
• 50:33
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• 50:43
  Speaker 2: as always. Lots left to get to. Noon, we're going
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to have the BYU perspective from a former quarterback. Brandon
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Doman's going to hop on. We're going to look at
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the quarterback comparison in this game. We've done the blind
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: statistical comparison, and we've told you about all the similarities.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Perhaps the greatest similarity between these two teams is the
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: fact that both have quarterbacks that can beat you with
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: their arm or with their legs. We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: the final segment hour, number one. This is what happens
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  Speaker 2: when you're bad at your job, like I am, and
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  Speaker 2: you abuse the clock. I want to call a little
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: bit more attention to the college football playoff committee's rankings
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and some of the strange things and the inconsistencies and
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: perhaps incongruities that we're seeing. But at the same time,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I just need to emphasize for everyone that UCLA being
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: undefeated and ranked at number eight when Texas, with a
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: couple of losses, is right above them. When Kentucky is
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: at number six, but Alabama is at number five. We
• 52:59
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• 53:04
  Speaker 2: expansion to 12 teams was ultimately designed to make it
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: so that everybody in the country stayed engaged in the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: college football season. If we have remained at four playoff teams,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: then you get further and further into a season. Sometimes
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: by week seven or eight, you know that your team
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: is out of the running. And if the only thing
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: that counts as a successful season for you is making
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: it to the college football playoff, you can check out
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: at that point. Expanding it to 12 now brings you
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: into a conversation where you've got really like 16 to
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: 20 teams that feel like they've still got that carrot
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: dangling in front of them. They can chase that dream still.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: When you get to a 24-team playoff, which is going
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to happen, we're going to get to Week 8, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: we're going to look at these rankings, and at least
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: for me, I'm going to turn my nose up at them.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And I think you probably will, too. Just say, this
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: is nothing that you have to worry about. There's 24
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: teams in this thing. You're going to get now 30
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and 35 and maybe 40 teams in Week 8 that
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: think that they've got a shot, depending on what their
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: schedule looks like. And that ultimately... is where the muck
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: and the mud and the confusion in this college football
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: playoff is both interesting conversationally but inconsequential in practicality because
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: if you just win, if Utah wins, they stay above
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: all of it. They insulate themselves from that conversation completely.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Alabama is going to be talked about the way that
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Alabama is talked about because they haven't controlled their destiny
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: to the standard set by Nick Saban and those great
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: years of Alabama football. Right? UCLA is apparently fighting off
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the perception of a relatively weak schedule this year, but
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: also the years past. I mean, the ranked win on
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: UCLA's schedule right now is Oregon, and Oregon has fallen
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: off a cliff. So... I just don't know how a
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: committee can treat undefeated the way that they're treating it
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: with UCLA other than, yeah, who have you beaten? But really,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: it's a brand conversation. And to have BYU and Utah
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: where they're at right now, knowing that the brand conversation
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: gets more and more relevant as these college football playoff
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: rankings come out week after week after week, is very
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: fascinating for me. Because number three versus number seven– well,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I guess I have to call it number three versus
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: number nine now in the college football playoff rankings is
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: something that we've never touched with this rivalry before. And
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: if Utah gets the win, like we hope they do,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: where does that put BYU after that? Jerem Jordan was
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: talking on our show yesterday and on his own social
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: media accounts yesterday that you probably– need this one from
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: the BYU perspective. I'm not so sure that that's the case,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: but it places this elevated importance on a game that
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: already matters so much here in our state. The best
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: week of the year, the best game of the year,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: the most consequential, important game for your legacy as a player,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: for your legacy as a coach, now has extra weight
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: added to it because of the conference championship implications, but
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: more importantly... access to the college football playoff, and becoming
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: part of that same brand conversation that teams like Alabama
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: are just in, no matter what they do. Ohio State
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: is in, no matter what they do. You're never going
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to get on their equal plane, but if you can
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: beat a team that already beat one of those big
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: brands in Notre Dame, the transitive property says, like, all right, cool,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: you belong at three, maybe even higher. It's really interesting
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: to see. All right, we'll take a break here. We
• 57:00
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  Speaker 2: Utah listeners. We are getting the BYU perspective on this
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: holy war on the Sean O'Connell Show this week. And
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  Speaker 2: so we welcome a former BYU quarterback, former BYU offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Doman. Welcome to the show. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing good, Sean. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you giving us some time. Holy War Week.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about just the big picture of what this
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  Speaker 2: game actually is. You played in some big ones, but
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  Speaker 2: never before has it been a top ten matchup. Two
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  Speaker 2: teams ranked inside the top ten in both the AP
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  Speaker 2: and now the college football playoff rankings that came out
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  Speaker 2: last night. Does it feel like perhaps the biggest Holy
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  Speaker 2: War game ever?
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  Speaker 6: I think so. I mean, the implications of the ranking
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  Speaker 6: and everything that's at stake right now for both those teams,
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  Speaker 6: looking at postseason opportunities, Big 12 championships, and obviously playoff implications.
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  Speaker 6: Morgan Scali being a new coach this year, head coach.
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  Speaker 6: Kyle going to Michigan. There's so many things that have
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  Speaker 6: happened in the last 12 months that I think leading
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  Speaker 6: up to this moment has made it massive. So hopefully
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  Speaker 6: the fans enjoy the heck out of this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hindsight is always 20-20, but give me your true
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on how you thought the transition would go after
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham ended up at Michigan and Morgan Scali, who
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  Speaker 2: was always the heir apparent, he's now taken the reins
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  Speaker 2: for the first time. And they played great in the
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  Speaker 2: bowl game. That's its own thing. You still had personnel
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  Speaker 2: left over from last year's team. If we go back
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  Speaker 2: and we're having this conversation in July, did you expect
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  Speaker 2: it to be this smooth of a transition, this successful
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  Speaker 2: of a start for Morgan Scali?
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  Speaker 6: I think Morgan Scali has done an amazing job. Obviously,
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  Speaker 6: the record now says that. But you look at everything
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  Speaker 6: that transpired with Kyle leaving, the players that left, kind
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  Speaker 6: of a perfect storm to cause all sorts of problems.
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  Speaker 6: And I believe that Utah is getting more out of
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  Speaker 6: less than ever before. And I think that says.
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  Speaker 2: A lot about Morgan.
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  Speaker 6: It says a lot about their team leadership. It says
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  Speaker 6: a lot about the culture of the program. Um, I
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  Speaker 6: think they've had better teams, overall players, I should say
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  Speaker 6: overall players and probably overall team than they've been this year. But, but, um,
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  Speaker 6: maybe the biggest opportunity they've ever had right now. And
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  Speaker 6: I think Morgan has been prepared for the moment. Um,
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  Speaker 6: is doing a fantastic job. So my hat's off to Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested to hear you say that and maybe elaborate
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  Speaker 2: on it a little bit more because I think even
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  Speaker 2: the most hardcore Utah fan was probably looking at this
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  Speaker 2: roster on paper, and there's not a bunch of obvious
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  Speaker 2: NFL guys on this roster, right? Last year you had
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  Speaker 2: two offensive tackles taken in the first round of the
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  Speaker 2: NFL draft. Zerway Williams, their left tackle this year, is
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  Speaker 2: developing himself into that conversation, but it's not something we
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  Speaker 2: thought was obvious. And when you watch him play, right,
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  Speaker 2: As a unit, the defense has been awesome. As a unit,
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  Speaker 2: the offense has been awesome. But it hasn't been overly
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  Speaker 2: reliant on any particular individual talent. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: an interesting perspective when you say doing more with less
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  Speaker 2: because it can come off as negative about the individual
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  Speaker 2: talents on this team, and I know you don't mean
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  Speaker 2: it that way. It's just that there's not the obvious, like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to account for that guy. That guy's the
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  Speaker 2: one who's going to kill you. That's the guy we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see playing on Sundays. Yet, here they are
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  Speaker 2: at 8-0.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you said it. I don't have to describe it
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  Speaker 6: any better than that. I mean, this is a football
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  Speaker 6: team that lost a bunch of up-front players. Traditionally, Utah
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  Speaker 6: on the D-line and the O-line have been absolutely dominant.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody knew it. They did have NFL guys on both
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  Speaker 6: sides of the ball. Coming into this season, there were
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  Speaker 6: so many question marks. Just on the front seven alone. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, BYU has made up a ton of ground
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  Speaker 6: over the last handful of years in recruiting. And the
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  Speaker 6: NIL has obviously helped there. But Utah has absolutely dominated
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  Speaker 6: BYU in recruiting in the front seven and overall play
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  Speaker 6: in the front seven for the last, gosh, 10, 15 years. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like I said, BYU's made up a lot
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  Speaker 6: of ground right now, and I think it's what makes
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  Speaker 6: the last few seasons and this coming game, I think
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  Speaker 6: it's what neutralizes the game, is that now you've got
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  Speaker 6: a pretty dang good matchup in the front seven there,
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  Speaker 6: and the team that has the edge there, I think
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  Speaker 6: usually is the team that comes out on top, and
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  Speaker 6: that's why I think it's such a grudge match. And
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  Speaker 6: for Morgan and their staff to put together the season
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  Speaker 6: they put together with, when I say less, we're talking
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  Speaker 6: about less recruited, less NIL money, less first-round draft pick
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  Speaker 6: type guys. You said it perfectly, and that's why I
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  Speaker 6: think it's been such an awesome coaching job.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side of things, you have Kalani Satake,
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  Speaker 2: who's a lot deeper into his head coaching career. He
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  Speaker 2: went through the growing pains, and obviously things are humming
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  Speaker 2: now down in Provo. On the recruiting front, you just referenced,
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  Speaker 2: but also On the actual games, the atmosphere down there
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  Speaker 2: at Lavelle Edwards Stadium is absolutely nuts. Notre Dame comes
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  Speaker 2: into town, you get a win over Notre Dame. And
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  Speaker 2: you kind of prove, I think, not only on behalf
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  Speaker 2: of the whole Big 12, but most importantly for BYU,
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  Speaker 2: that you're ready to play with the big boys. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: NIL has been part of that. But what Kalani Satake
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  Speaker 2: and Aaron Roderick and Kelly Papinga, who had to answer
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  Speaker 2: a lot of questions his own self after Jay Hill's
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  Speaker 2: departure to Michigan, they've all risen to that occasion. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to acknowledge that Morgan Scali and
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  Speaker 2: his staff have done an incredible job. But also, even
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  Speaker 2: from a Utah lens, you have to admit that what
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  Speaker 2: Kalani Satake has done down there at your alma mater
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  Speaker 2: has been pretty incredible. If I ask you to put
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  Speaker 2: your finger on what exactly it is that was the
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  Speaker 2: turning point in Kalani's tenure at BYU, can you do
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  Speaker 2: that for me?
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  Speaker 6: Well, he has done an unbelievable job. And he's had,
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  Speaker 6: I think, a much improved support from the administration, from
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  Speaker 6: the athletic department, the NIL portion. The guys that had
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  Speaker 6: the ability to really support financially have come to the
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  Speaker 6: table and have supported that. But I said it just
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  Speaker 6: a minute ago. Having been a coach there, having been
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  Speaker 6: a player there, the University of Utah took took a
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  Speaker 6: major advantage over BYU when they went into the Pac-12
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  Speaker 6: and on the recruiting side of things, particularly up front.
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  Speaker 6: The O-line, D-line, the front seven players, even tight ends.
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  Speaker 6: Utah has been dominant in the tight end front. And
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  Speaker 6: BYU's had to play catch-up. And I think for a
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  Speaker 6: lot of years, BYU had an upper hand. And Kyle
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  Speaker 6: and Kalani and others that were on the Utah staff
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  Speaker 6: did a phenomenal job helping there to put Utah over
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  Speaker 6: the edge. And BYU has caught up. And the front
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  Speaker 6: seven for BYU, the depth that they have there, some
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  Speaker 6: of the recruiting battles that they've won recently against Utah
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  Speaker 6: and others have enabled BYU to reestablish, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: that grudge match up front. They can now go play
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  Speaker 6: Notre Dame. They can go play against any of these
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  Speaker 6: teams now nationally and hold up physically up front and
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  Speaker 6: then have depth. And BYU has been able to now
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  Speaker 6: rotate several defensive linemen in and out of the game.
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  Speaker 6: And Utah traditionally has been able to do that and
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  Speaker 6: keep guys fresh and have high motor, high energy defensive
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  Speaker 6: line play, which enables the linebackers and the defense to
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  Speaker 6: play differently. And BYU hasn't played man-to-man coverage yet.
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  Speaker 7: Ever.
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  Speaker 6: And over the last few years, they've been getting into
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  Speaker 6: man blitz situations and playing man coverage with defensive backs
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  Speaker 6: that are so much better than they've been in the past.
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  Speaker 6: And it's not that the BYU defensive backs haven't been
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  Speaker 6: great in the past, but top to bottom across the
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  Speaker 6: back end, they're playing man coverage. And it's been fun
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  Speaker 6: to watch that. And Utah has been like I said,
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  Speaker 6: has really had the upper hand there. So when BYU
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  Speaker 6: was able to start winning some of the recruiting battles,
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  Speaker 6: I think Jay Hill had a significant impact on BYU's culture.
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  Speaker 6: I think he had an impact on details. I think
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  Speaker 6: he had an impact on recruiting. And those guys are now,
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  Speaker 6: I think, beneficiaries of what he added to the culture.
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  Speaker 6: So I said several things there, but Add all that up,
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  Speaker 6: and now you've got two programs in the top ten
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  Speaker 6: going head-to-head. And State of Utah is an unbelievable place.
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  Speaker 6: The fan support here. We don't have NFL teams. So
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  Speaker 6: we really, really do dive in deep to our two
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  Speaker 6: college programs here, specifically, you know, BYU and Utah, and
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  Speaker 6: it makes it a lot of fun for us.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Doman is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
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  Speaker 2: talking Holy War, Utah, BYU. as you are all well aware,
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning kickoff on ABC. Let's talk about specifics here,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to pick your brain about the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: position because you played it so well during your tenure.
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  Speaker 2: What makes Bear Bachmeier so special and hard for other
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  Speaker 2: teams to deal with when you watch him?
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  Speaker 6: I think he's a gym rat. You know, he, he's
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  Speaker 6: a student of the game. He loves the game. He's,
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  Speaker 6: he's plays football smart. Um, he makes for a young,
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  Speaker 6: young quarterback. He makes unbelievable decisions. He throws the ball
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  Speaker 6: on time. He's accurate in his, in his passing for
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  Speaker 6: the most part. Um, and then you combine that with
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  Speaker 6: just grit in the way that he plays the game, um,
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  Speaker 6: a threat in the run game, um, an ability to
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  Speaker 6: bring a physical mindset and just attitude to the entire
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  Speaker 6: offense helps. If you can be that kind of a
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  Speaker 6: leader in both the run and the pass game, it
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  Speaker 6: poses a lot of challenge for the defense, but it
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  Speaker 6: also creates a mindset for the offense. He's a quiet leader,
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  Speaker 6: but he does it in a way that those guys
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  Speaker 6: are able to follow and engage. 18, 19-year-old kid. Some
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: of those guys are 25 years old in that huddle.
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  Speaker 6: And to his credit, he's come in there and been
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  Speaker 6: a leader of the culture of that program, and they're
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  Speaker 6: lucky to have him.
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  Speaker 2: How much does BYU need out of L.J. Martin, if anything?
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  Speaker 2: Because we don't know if he's going to be available
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  Speaker 2: or not. But in a game like this, you'd like
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  Speaker 2: to have one of your best players.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, man. I think that presents a lot of challenge
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  Speaker 6: for BYU. We can see that they've had a hard
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  Speaker 6: time establishing just traditional run game. And Utah, having watched
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  Speaker 6: UCF and Arizona State, they're going to come after Bear
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  Speaker 6: big time. and be really i'm sure very more physical
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  Speaker 6: than he's seen yet i think they'll be the most
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  Speaker 6: physical defense that he'll face uh to this point and
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  Speaker 6: you know utah needs to get after him and um
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  Speaker 6: so if if they can establish a run game again
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  Speaker 6: if lj's out there i'm skeptical on that even if
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  Speaker 6: he's out there knowing the injury he's dealing with i
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  Speaker 6: just don't know how how much of a contribution he'll
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  Speaker 6: give but if my goodness if he's a contributor and
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  Speaker 6: helps that game it It'll be a game changer for BYU.
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  Speaker 2: Can they win if they don't have him?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they can win. They can beat Notre Dame without him.
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  Speaker 6: But they can't turn the ball over. They can't lose
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  Speaker 6: the turnover margin. Utah and their stadium stands to have
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  Speaker 6: the advantage in the turnover margin. If Utah wins the
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  Speaker 6: turnover margin, I think Utah wins the football game. There's
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  Speaker 6: a few other things that BYU's got to do better.
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  Speaker 6: They're special teams. They can't make critical special teams errors.
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  Speaker 6: They have to play fundamental football better. And that's where
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  Speaker 6: coaching comes into play here. In these types of games
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  Speaker 6: with the emotions, the team that blocks the best and
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: the team that tackles the best and the team that
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  Speaker 6: makes critical downs in critical situations, coaching decisions, manages those
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  Speaker 6: situations the best, he's going to win this game. Both
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  Speaker 6: of these coaching staffs have got a pretty good track
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  Speaker 6: record going right now of being in a position to
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  Speaker 6: be successful. I think Utah more so than BYU right
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  Speaker 6: now in some of those areas, but anything can happen
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  Speaker 6: on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at the kind of landscape of BYU
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  Speaker 2: athletics right now, obviously high hopes for the basketball team
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  Speaker 2: as well. You earlier in the conversations referenced the NIL thing. And, look,
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  Speaker 2: you're part of the legacy of this athletic department as
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  Speaker 2: one of the great players that have come through BYU football.
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  Speaker 2: When you compare your time and different conference, smaller stage,
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  Speaker 2: all those things, to what BYU is now, even the
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  Speaker 2: makeup of the student body and the athletic teams themselves, right?
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  Speaker 2: They're a lot less homogenous than they were back when
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  Speaker 2: you and I played. Just your thoughts on what BYU
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  Speaker 2: has become relative to what it was and what it
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  Speaker 2: means for the athletic department and the football team.
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  Speaker 6: They've changed the culture of the venue experience. You know,
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  Speaker 6: Utah created the must, and that has been such a
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  Speaker 6: massive advantage for Utah and the way that the stadium
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: environment up there, and BYU had to figure out how
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: to recreate the experience for the fans. And by engaging
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  Speaker 6: the student body has, I think, been one of the
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  Speaker 6: best decisions they've made. And now the student body at
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: basketball games and football games, not only are they ruckus
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: and do a great job, but They feel an ownership
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  Speaker 6: unlike they've ever felt before, and that's really created a
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  Speaker 6: huge advantage for BYU and the environment. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 6: to the administration's credit, they've brought in a handful of
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  Speaker 6: administrators that have been really key in the NIL environment,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: enabling them to go out and get good players. They've
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: got a guy there on campus that people don't talk
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: much about. His name is Travis Hanson. But he sits
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: in a seat down there supporting both athletic departments. I'm sorry,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: athletic directors for both football and basketball and other sports.
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  Speaker 6: And there are a handful of people like him that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: kind of behind the scenes are making things really advantageous
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: for them. And then those that have the ability to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: donate and participate are doing that. And then they're paying
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: their coaches for that. And they haven't paid their coaches
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: in years past. Now they're paying their coaches competitive wages.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: So they're able to recruit and retain very, very good
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: football coaches along with the players. And you combine all that,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: now you've got a chance to be successful.
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  Speaker 2: All right. On Saturday at 10 a.m., what is the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: dome and routine to watch this game? What are you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: going to be doing to take in this BYU-Utah game?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: Oh, man, I'm going to be in St. George watching
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: my boys in the lacrosse tournament. Oh, wow. Now it's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: again at 10 a.m. I was pretty bummed because I'm
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: going to be watching it from my little phone screen.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: But I'll be watching it, cheering on my kids and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: just down there supporting the family. And I'm just as
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: excited as everybody else. I'll certainly be watching it, but
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: I won't be in the stadium or anything. sitting in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: front of a big screen or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a prediction? Oh, man.
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  Speaker 6: I never pick Utah to win. I know I'm on
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: a Utah station.
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  Speaker 2: We don't expect you to. That's all right. Won't do it.
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  Speaker 6: Can't do it. But I think if BYU wins this game,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to be just barely at the end. So
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  Speaker 6: I pick BYU 27 to 24.
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  Speaker 2: All right. All right. That's Brandon Doman's official pick.
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  Speaker 5: Will.
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  Speaker 2: If you're right, we won't ever remind you of it.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: If you're wrong, we'll probably cut that up and play
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: it over and over, all right?
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  Speaker 6: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon, appreciate your time. Enjoy St. George. Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 6: You bet, guys. Take care.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, some of those guys, no doubt, have heartbreaking
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• 1:22:13
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  Speaker 4: But even when you consider heartbreaking playoff losses, this loss
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How can it not be when you're under three minutes left,
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  Speaker 4: like they do in hockey? That's just a terrible loss,
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  Speaker 2: You're just not going to get over that one anytime soon.
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• 1:22:55
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• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I think, is the Baltimore Ravens. You've got Snoop is
• 1:23:03
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• 1:23:06
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  Speaker 2: will be starting, as far as we know, a young
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: man named Joe Fugnano. And like all of you, I
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  Speaker 2: had no idea how to actually pronounce that last name
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• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: and educated everyone on how to pronounce his last name.
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  Speaker 2: How many other quarterbacks in the NFL are complete unknowns
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  Speaker 2: walking into a Sunday game? It just doesn't happen. Do
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: you have to tell people how to pronounce your name? Now,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen stranger things than somebody who is unheralded having success,
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  Speaker 2: but undrafted free agent rookie out of UConn, Joe Funiano
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  Speaker 2: is going to be starting games for the Baltimore Ravens
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  Speaker 4: You know, as a fan of an NFL team, you
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  Speaker 4: know that you have it good when you have a
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  Speaker 4: starting quarterback from UConn.
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  Speaker 2: You just know that. Shout out to Dan Orlovsky. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Dan Orlovsky. Now, maybe this is the beginning of.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Funiano's Dan Orlovsky career. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he'll produce one of the most embarrassing lowlights we've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen in football, run out of the back of
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  Speaker 2: an end zone, and just be completely terrible, and still
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  Speaker 2: end up with one of the best jobs in NFL media.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just become a really good NFL analyst on
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  Speaker 4: the biggest platform in all of sports, right, with ESPN television. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that's in the cards for Joe Funiano.
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  Speaker 2: It's not outside the realm of possibility. You'd love to
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  Speaker 2: see it. Let's see. My computer's being too slow for
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  Speaker 2: me to give you an accurate stack comparison between Dan
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  Speaker 2: Orlovsky's UConn tenure and Joe Funiano's UConn tenure, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's overly consequential.
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  Speaker 4: Is Funiano, he's not playing in New York, which will
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  Speaker 4: affect what I'm about to say, but is he the
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  Speaker 4: new Tommy Cutlets with the great Italian... name and heritage
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  Speaker 4: and as a as a backup backup quarterback in the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: nfl getting his opportunity could could that also be in
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  Speaker 4: the cards.
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  Speaker 2: Well it just depends on if he's any good yeah
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  Speaker 2: that's true because if you're if you're terrible if you
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  Speaker 2: squander this opportunity then no one's gonna remember your.
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  Speaker 4: Name Maybe he does so well he gets a Pro
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  Speaker 4: Bowl nod like Tyler Huntley did.
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  Speaker 2: A few years ago. I'm actually so interested when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the deep on the depth chart backups, especially
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: at the quarterback position when it's stuff like this. Because
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  Speaker 2: if I'm a third string quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at Lamar Jackson, who is one of the
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  Speaker 2: most unique athletes to play the position. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: his backup, who is somehow a a close approximation of
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: being that unique of an athlete. And I'm just going like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no chance I'm ever playing. There's zero chance I'm
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: ever going to play. And you're just there. You're collecting
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: your paycheck, which is, I mean, backup quarterback in the NFL,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: as I've said many, many times, might be the best
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: job in America. And this guy was just like, yeah,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to be on the field. And now
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: here he is. He's going to have to start for him.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Great stuff. Dave Durant was one of the first coaches
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: fired in this 2026 coaching cycle. The carousel is already spinning.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Baylor is going to have to replace their head coach. Obviously,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: Florida State paying the $ 50 million buyout for Mike Norvell.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: And now, Russell Wilson and Phillip Rivers are apparently in
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: the running to replace Dave Durant as the NC State
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  Speaker 2: head football coach. Now, of course, both of these guys
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: played some college football at NC State. Phillip Rivers played
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: longer at NC State than Russell Wilson did before Russell
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Wilson eventually transferred to Wisconsin after flirting with professional baseball career.
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  Speaker 2: But I understand making a phone call and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to entertain the idea of having a former
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  Speaker 2: professional player a big name, like someone who can splash
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: in recruiting meetings and go into living rooms and say, yeah,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I played, you know, I'm probably a Hall of Famer
• 1:27:42
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• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: both of those guys have a certain cachet as former
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  Speaker 2: players at NC State. I can't imagine focusing your coaching
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: search on that instead of dyed-in-the-wool coaches instead of guys
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: who've had success at a lower level or success as
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: a coordinator or anything else now we've obviously seen many
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: many examples of guys who are great players who then
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: become great coaches we've also seen the opposite And in
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: most of those cases, whether it's on the positive or
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: the negative side of the results, usually what you see
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: is a guy that cuts his teeth in coaching somewhere.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Phillip Rivers is currently a high school coach. And I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: have zero doubt that Phillip Rivers knows more than enough
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: about football to be an excellent college coach. but he
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: hasn't done it russell wilson has done even less and
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: both of these guys are getting interviewed by nc state
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: to take over their head coaching position philip rivers by
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: the way his son gunner who's the first of i
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: is committed to play at NC State. So you would
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: think that would give Dad an inside track if they're
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: being serious about this. Maybe they interview him for a
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: head coaching position just to keep up appearances, and then
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: they say, hey, will you come be our quarterbacks coach? Hey,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: will you come be our offensive coordinator? Something like that.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: But he has said he wants to finish out his
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: high school season because he's coaching high school. He is the,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I think they're in North Carolina already, he is the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: you know, the deep south equivalent of our guy Eric Weddle.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: He's coaching his own son in high school football. The
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  Speaker 2: major difference is Phillip Rivers can then coach five more
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: of his sons, whereas Weddle's just got the one. Which
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: would you rather have if you're an NC State fan
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: as your head coach? Would you rather have Russell Wilson
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: or Phillip Rivers coming on as the head man? I mean.
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  Speaker 4: There's a couple of reasons why I would probably say
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 2: One is that he's at least coached.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's the way lower level, but at least
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: he knows how to coach a little bit at the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: high school level at the very least. The other reason
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: is Russell Wilson I'm not sure is an actual human being.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: I think he might be a robot or some kind
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: of alien. He's a weird dude. I would just prefer
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: Phillip Rivers. But Russell Wilson has... I mean, Phillip's got
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: a bunch of cachet, too. But Russell Wilson's married to.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Like... hot singer, too.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: So he's got the pop culture cachet beyond being a
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: football player. Maybe that's what sways him that way.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We would rather hire Sierra, basically. You're
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: trying to get Russell Wilson there because of his attractive
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: pop star wife.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: I guess, but just hire Phillip Rivers if it's between
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: those two.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Honestly, like you say.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: You probably should be looking for someone who has college
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: coaching experience, though, before you look at those two.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: But if that's who you're looking at, just hire Phillip Rivers. Well, look,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, so Weber State hired the high school coach
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: to be their head man in Eric Kerr, right? Yeah.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: And he's doing a phenomenal job. Good football coaches are
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: good football coaches. Football minds are football minds. There's a
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: natural order to things. when we're talking about power for football,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, an NC state is not like a blue blood.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: They're not like, but NC state has had some success.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: NC state is accustomed to developing NFL talent. NC state
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: is a team that has, you know, flirted with championship
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: success at various years. It seems like once a decade,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: they put something interesting together. And to go from just
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: like a high school ranking and Phillip Rivers, another traditional
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: high school coach, obviously having, you know, a, hall of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: fame statistical at least career in the nfl but that
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: it's still a bold move especially when you're seeing what's
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: going on at colorado with deon sanders and i know
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: that their personalities are not all that similar and quarterbacks
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: and defensive backs are very different when it comes to
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: how they process football and things like that but man
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: it just it would be a really bold move in
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: my opinion to go with an unproven college coach for
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: a big-time power four job. It's really crazy. It really would.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: And here's something for Utah fans and for you personally, OC,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: to probably throw up there. It would be like saying
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: last year when Witt steps away, let's go to an
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: alternative universe where Morgan Scali is not the head coach
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: in waiting and it's just more up in the air.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: It'd be like Utah saying, hey, Eric Weddle, we know
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: you've been coaching high school and having really good success,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: and you're a program legend.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Do you want to be our head coach?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: I think that there'd be a lot of excitement around
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: that because people love Weddle, and we trust that Weddle
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: is a great football mind. But also, there would be
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: a fair amount, it would be fair for people to
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: have some doubts because he's never done it at the
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: college level, and you're telling him to jump up to
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: a powerful team. It's not the same as eric care
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: going to weber state you your mind can can reach
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: the where okay eric care could do well at an
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: fcs school if eric care was going to byu or
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: utah you'd be like maybe he should have tried being
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: a head coach it's some somewhere lower level before byu
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: or utah decided to go this way so and i
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: think that care before it's all said and done we'll
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: be coaching at like a Maybe a Utah or a BYU,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: at least at a Utah State, Colorado State, UNLV type level.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: I really believe that he's going to be there. I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: think he's that good of a coach. And I think
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of high school coaches that are that
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: good of coaches. But the path gets accelerated when you're
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: an NFL legend. And I think also when you have
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: a son, who is very important to the plans of
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: the future players.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: Of a particular football program.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: The more I think about this, OC, if Morgan Scali
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: wasn't already waiting in the wings for as long as
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: he was and preparing to be a head coach for
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: as long as he was, it sounds like Utah could
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: have been in this position last year with Eric Weddle
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: because you just mentioned another way where it's very similar.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: You've got another top recruit who's the son of a
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: guy who you might have wanted to hire if the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: universe was completely different.
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  Speaker 2: You only do that. You only let that factor in
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: if it's a quarterback. Yeah. I don't know. Probably right.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Get the athletic director at NC State on the phone,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: and we'll just ask them, okay? James will work on that. Yeah.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: This one. I love this one. My guy Brandon Iyuk,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: former Arizona statewide receiver, one of the more talented guys
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: even in the NFL, has been at odds with the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: San Francisco 49ers. Really ugly soap opera style divorce between
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: the Niners and Brandon Iyuk. He's on the commissioner's exemption,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: failed to report to camp list, sought a trade. Nobody
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: wanted to pick him up. He's overpaid. He's acting kind
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: of crazy. it's really incredible what a bunch of missed
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: paychecks will do to somebody's thoughts on how entitled they
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: are to their salary, to their certain types of treatment, whatever.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Brandon Iyuki is reportedly going to file for, or he
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: has filed for reinstatement with the NFL and plans to
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: report to the San Francisco 49ers on Friday. Now, whether
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: or not the Niners feel like they want to actually
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: use him or get him to play again after he
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: went after Shanahan, he went after several teammates, he went
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: after the York family very specifically, I'm skeptical that they
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: actually have plans to let him back in the building
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: to be a football player and not just to try
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: to dump some salary or whatever other weird mechanisms there
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: are with this whole, I'll be honest, I don't really
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: know exactly what you could do to turn this into
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: a positive for the 49ers outside of just letting him
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: stand up in front of the team, apologize to everyone,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: and then go play for you. But Brandon Ayuk is
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: going to report to the 49ers, according to multiple reports,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: on Friday. Wild stuff.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: Are they in a situation, injury-wise, OC, as a fan
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: of the team like you are, that at least from
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: a fan's perspective, you're like, yeah, go, like, please try to,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: please play him if he reports, because we get, we're
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: dropping like flies in the receiver room here, or is
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: it more like, you know what, he's got to prove
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: that he's going to be a team player first?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, both. Make him prove that he
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: actually wants to come back and play, and it's not
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: just about a paycheck, because I don't, I think that's,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: always a negative influence in a locker room, even if
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: you have a really well-established and cohesive locker room. The
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: idea of getting Brandon Ayuk, who's actually bought in on
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: the field with Mike Evans, okay, give me some of that.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: We'll see how they use him. We'll see what the
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: plan is. It didn't work the first time. Personalities did
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: not jive. But Brandon Ayuk is filing for reinstatement. And, James,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you just whispered this in my ear. More NFL news.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Update to the earlier story. Update to the Ravens QB3 scenario.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Joe Fagnano, I'm sorry. Thank you for teaching us how
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: to pronounce your name. But it looks like there's not
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of confidence in Baltimore that he's going to
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: be enough. And they have traded for Jacoby Brissett. Ouch.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: The perennial backup slash spot starter who held out for
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: the Cardinals this summer in a very bold move, and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: now he gets to be a starting quarterback for the
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens for the rest of the year.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: That a boy, Jacoby Brissett. By the way, if you're
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Joe Funiano, this is the ultimate indication that it might
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: be time to get into coaching. If a team is
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: willing to trade for somebody else instead of letting you start,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: it means that you don't get to play. Sorry. This is,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: remember when Utah started Makai Bernard at corner and and
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: still played him on special teams and running back instead
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: of going down to, like, the walk-on who was the corner.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: That's this feeling right there where you're just like, oh,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: as much as I hate to see the two guys
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: in front of me get injured, now's my chance. And
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: the coach is just like, actually, we're going to bring
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: somebody else over here. You're like, oh, yep, okay. All
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: I needed to know. Thanks, coach. Appreciate the confidence.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: Thanks.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: It's nice of you to say that, to do that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: to me. Thank you very much. Rough. Sorry, Joe Fagnano,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: that we made fun of you on the Sean O'Connell
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: show because now your life is, you're really feeling it
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: at this moment when you found out that Jacoby Brissett
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: is going to replace you. 33-year-old former third-round pick of
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: the Patriots, Jacoby Brissett. He was in the final year
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: of a four-year, $ 3. 4 million contract. He then agreed to
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: a two-year deal worth $ 30 million. That included $ 20 million
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: guaranteed at signing with the Colts back in 2019. Gosh, man.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, James? There's no better job
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: in America than being a backup quarterback. This guy's going
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: to leave with like $ 40 million of NFL earnings. not
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: really having played a lot of important football. So good.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: So good to be a QB. All right, we're down
• 1:40:18
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• 1:40:21
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  Speaker 2: Josie's sitting down with us here at All Trades Staffing,
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Josie.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: So if I need workers tomorrow, I own one of
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: these pop-up businesses that we see seasonally around this time
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: of year. Hey, don't worry about your Halloween decorations. We'll
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: take those down for you. Don't worry about your Christmas lights.
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  Speaker 2: We'll put those up for you. Don't worry about the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: pumpkin display or whatever else you got going on for Thanksgiving.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: I start putting flyers out in my neighborhood. Suddenly I
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: get a million phone calls. I don't have the time
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: to take care of all these new customers. I need
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: extra pairs of hands. You can help me, right?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely. That's exactly what we do.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: And if I need them tomorrow?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: Tomorrow will work just fine.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: That's like unskilled labor, right?
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: But you can also match people with skilled labor, with
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: people who need certain types of certifications and some of
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: the more, I guess, hard-to-find type of workers. You have
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: access there.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 9: We actually have a job starting in St. George on
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 9: Monday for six.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: Steel erectors.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, wow. in St. George.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what, I mean, what kind of
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: licensing and insurance and certifications involved with something like that.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a skilled job. Yeah.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: And we do all that.
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  Speaker 9: We take care of all that, the paperwork, the everything.
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  Speaker 9: You just call me and tell me what you need and,
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  Speaker 9: you know, provide the work and I provide the workers.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: If you're a worker and maybe you're someone who's like,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: I've been in electrical or I've been in plumbing and,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: I mowed lawns when I was a kid. I don't
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: know if I want to keep doing this stuff. Can't
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: you point me in a direction of maybe something that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: I could use my hands-on type of experience, but maybe
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: it's time for me to start a new direction. You
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: help place people on new career paths as well.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. People change careers all the time.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately, as we get older, our bodies can't really handle
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: what they did when we were 20s, 30s. So it's
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: time to change your work, you know, what you do.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: And let's say you're not wanting to frame houses anymore.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: So come in and we can get you on something
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  Speaker 2: Alltrades10. com, 801-313-1234. Right now, this time of year, what businesses
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: are typically staffing up and needing your help?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 9: Right now, this time of year, because we're in November, everybody,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: they're trying to finish before the end of the year.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 9: and or try to finish before the snow hits. So
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 9: a lot of concrete going, a lot of welding going,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 9: you know, directors are going, demolition, you know, because if
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 9: they can get inside demoed out, then when it snows,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 9: then they're inside the doors, not outside. So a lot
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 9: of that and then just getting prepared for this huge
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 9: winter we're going to have.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: That's the hope, right? Fingers crossed we're going to have
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: a nice winter. A lot of snowfall.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: A lot of companies, a lot of apartment complexes, a
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: lot of people out there are going to need snow removal.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're someone who's like, man, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what to do, I need extra money, I need extra work,
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  Speaker 2: All Trades has you covered there. Yeah, absolutely. 801-313-1234, alltradestemp.com.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having us down here.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for coming.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to talk a little Utah mammoth.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: We'll double up here. Adrian Denny is going to join us.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's coming down in person. Is that right, James?
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  Speaker 2: All right, love it. We'll see Adrian Denny down here
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  Speaker 2: at 182 West Haven Avenue in South Salt Lake City.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: The Utah Mammoth with a big win over the Maple Leafs.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about how they got it done and what's
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  Speaker 2: coming next. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show, your source for
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. We're at hour
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  Speaker 2: number three now here at All Trade Staffing, 182 West
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  Speaker 2: Haven Avenue in South Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you got it right. Yeah, yeah. Adrian Denny,
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  Speaker 2: U logo, the Tuskew logo on the front, the Mammoth
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• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: the real one, okay? Adrian Denny's wearing the expensive one,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Yes. This is it, buddy.
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  Speaker 5: It's not to be confused with Cougar Blue. It's beautiful
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: mountain blue.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. I love it.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: I might not take it off. Or during the game
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: last night, game went well. Might just keep it on.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Forever. Looks great.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I haven't seen it up close yet,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: so this is the first one.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it would be fun to wear it in.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I was walking around the Delta Center last
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: night during the Teddy Swims concert just, you know, in a...
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: Mountain blue, hometown remix jersey, just like everybody else.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Nice. I love that. So this Utah Mammoth team on
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: the road right now. We've talked about this the last
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: time you were in. They've got a bit of a
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: tough road stretch in front of them, although last night
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: they got over on the Toronto Maple Leafs 3-2, picked
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: up some points on the road with Cosa in goal.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the game last night?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: I thought they were in control for– Most of it.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: You look at the third period, Toronto got 12 of
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: the 18 shots. They tied it. They got some good
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: chances late. Kosa, for the third straight win, huge saves
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: and huge moments. He's 4-1. So, you know, just during
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: the course of starting with 13 of 19 on the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: road and an 84-game season, the more wins you can
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: chisel from your backup goaltender, that's good. 4-1 is his
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: record now, winning another one-goal game. They're 5-0 in one-goal games,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: 10-6 overall. So there's another good response. The team's been
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: great at responding after a loss. They're 6-0. They're the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: only team in the NHL that doesn't have two straight losses.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: So they've been able to regroup after having a game
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: like they did on Sunday that went away that a
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: lot of the losses have gone.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: They just.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: Just kind of lose themselves for a little bit and
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: get back into it. but run out of time. But
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: I think the bigger thing is how they've responded and
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: not let anything slide. In their losses, OC, just get emotional.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: The games just start slipping, and they're just not able
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: to pull it together because they're trying so hard and
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: everything falls apart.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: Who needs to fix that or lead the charge towards
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: fixing that? Obviously, everyone's involved in an effort like that one,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: but are you looking at Bear? Are you looking at
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Keller as the captain? Who can calm the storm when
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: it starts to happen?
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: It's so funny because in the losses, we're talking about emotion, composure, maturity,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: lack thereof. In the wins, you're talking about emotion, composure, maturity.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: So I think it's something that won't be a season-long thing.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: I think that hopefully last night was the turning point
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: to realizing, okay, this is what we need to do.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: We're sick of having practices the day after a loss
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: and going through the same thing over and over again
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: and coming back out, winning the next game, and then
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: coming out the next game, seeing a little adversity go
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: their way and just not being able to handle it.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: You mentioned they're the only team in the NHL without
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: back-to-back losses so far, but we're also looking at a
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: pretty long stretch now where there's not back-to-back wins.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, nine straight games.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: It's win, loss, win, loss. It's like going back to
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: your first grade class when your teacher hands you a
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: paper and is like, Can you recognize the pattern? The
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: pattern is that you're winning one and then you're losing one.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: How concerning is that, if at all?
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think so in terms of concern level, especially
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: being on a road trip. For me, it's just about
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: what can you chisel? What can you take from these
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: six straight games? And if you win one more in
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: the next three, you're at 500 on the trip. Anything
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: else after that is house money. But you're not going
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: to respond every night like they have been all season, right?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: You're going to go.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: Into games against teams that are hot, teams that you
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: catch at the wrong time, and you're going to lose
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: that second game in a row. So ideally you can
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: string together another– another win or two in a row
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: before we have to have this conversation of how great
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: the team is after, after.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: Losing a game.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: But, but I think, I think 10 and six with
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: so far what has been 10 of 16 games.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: On the road.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: I think, I think, I think you're good with it.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: I think you're happy with Sebastian Cosa on the other
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: end of it. Cosa probably doesn't start that game last night.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 5: If everything's going perfectly with Krelva Malka, but yeah, Now
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: you know you've got a backup that you can go
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: to when you're like, okay, let's give Veggie a breather.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Which is interesting because it's a great problem. Well, it's
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: not a problem when you have a good backup, but
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: it's something we talked about last year where it's like, yeah,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: you don't really trust what's going on with goaltender number two,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: and so you maybe have to overuse Veggie, but Veggie
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: rose to the occasion. In that stretch last year, over
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: the course of a season actually last year, and now
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: the question that's starting to stir a little bit is
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: like what's going on with Veggie? Is that something that
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: needs to be addressed? And if it needs to be addressed,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: how do you address it?
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, I think he's going to be fine.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: His November and December last year was not great, and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: you just kept having to roll him out because– Vitek
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 5: Vanacek wasn't winning any games either. He won five games
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 5: last year as Utah's backup. Sebastian Kosa has already won four.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: But Vemelka's resume in the NHL with Utah, is he
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: perfect for a whole season?
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: Does he have stretches where you're like, oh boy, and
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: then he'll come out and get that game. You're like, okay,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: that's it. Veggie's back. thought that we might have seen
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 5: it against Minnesota last week game Utah didn't win but
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: but Philly was Philly was a tough one on on
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: Sunday didn't see a lot of shots which isn't always
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: advantageous the Flyers played played a decent game they had
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: Utah pinned in their zone the the whole time offensively
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: and their typical low event team that picks their spots
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: and can can grind you and then they'll get something
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: point blank that's a scoring chance and all of a
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: sudden they've got four goals on 22 shots which is
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: not atypical but it wasn't a great game on Sunday
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: and then they flip back out with with Sebastian Cosa
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: yesterday which shows that you know maybe we all kind
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: of felt the same way.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Do we know if Clayton Keller's locker is like the
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: same spot in the building where John Stockton's locker used
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: to be and there's some sort of like weird juju
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: or magnetic force there to where you're just an assist
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: monster if you are in that place. Clayton Keller is
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: sort of deferred scoring to those around him, but he
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: is facilitating at a higher level than we've ever seen
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: in his career.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's off to the best offensive start in his career.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: He's got 21 points, 16 games, three assists last night,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: factored in on all three Utah goals. For the Mammoth
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: on the power play this year, he's been involved, but
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: he's been involved in all but six of their power
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: play goals, which you've gotten four from the second unit.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: So everything is run through him on the power play.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: Points are there. Five on five, the Mammoth did change
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: up lines last night. They put Anders Lee and Barrett
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: Hayton with Clayton Keller and Schmaltz and Gunther. with Jack McBain.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: Three of the four lines did change up just to
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: try and get some more five-on-fives. Power play has been great.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: Best power play in the league. They have more multiple
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: power play goal games this year than they did last year.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: They played 16.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: They have eight games this year with at least two
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: power play goals. Last year they had seven.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Power play is great.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: Five-on-five metrics show that the Mammoth probably underperformed a little
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: bit five-on-fives. Maybe should have 10 or 11 more five-on-five goals.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: So that's a good thing. You expect actual performance to
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: catch up with metrics when you're in a situation like that.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: Same thing when 40% of your shots are going into
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: the back of the net. You know that for a
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: team or a player, maybe things are going to level
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: out a little bit more.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Barrett Hayton. I really like him.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: I liked where they put him last night. I like
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: that he got into Sergei Bobrovsky's head. He had Bob.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Flopping in the crease because he was looking for interference
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: calls uh and and hayton i mean look the first
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: one borderline he got called once but he was in
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: the head of one of the i mean a stanley
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: cup goaltender.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah it was it was going on all night the
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: the first goal that counted but barofsky was outside of
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: the crease and hayton was pestering him but Even with
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: Bobrovsky being outside of the crease, by rule, you still
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: have to avoid the goalie, right? So there was contact,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: but Toronto didn't challenge it, and Hayton did a good
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 5: job of kind of being sneaky there. On the second one,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: he was in the crease.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: Goalie interference.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: Tackled the guy.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: That's okay.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: I'll take that any day of the week. You get
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: a goal waved off for goalie interference because you're in
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: the crease grinding. And then OC, third period. Toronto had
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: just tied the game. Barrett Hayden is again, swarming in
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: front of the net and he's, he's just kind of buzzing.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: And Darren Radish, one of Toronto's best defenseman's like coming over,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: like trying to nudge him away. And, and Hayden just
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: wouldn't budge to the point that Radish eventually got tangled
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: up with him to the point he cross-checked him. Mammoth
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: go on the power play, take the lead, get the
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: game winning goal from Schmaltz from that penalty that, that,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: that he drew. So, Hayton was a pest. Keller drew
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 5: a penalty. Hayton drew a penalty. That line, Anders Lee
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: said it after the game to us on the radio.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, we just went out and worked, like
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: every line I'm on. We just go out and work.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Awesome to see. And, again, points on the road, hard
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: to come by. Successful outing in Toronto. Let's talk about
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: what is next for this Utah Mammoth team because, like
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: you said, this is one of their longer trips of
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: the season. It'll be Montreal, who is now, I imagine,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: reeling in French from what happened to them last night,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: where they gave up a four-goal lead in the final
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: two minutes and 40 seconds of regulation.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: To a team that was winless in nine, 0-7-2. Canadians
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: had won five straight games. uh they're cruising there i
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: i think the the narrative what you're hearing from around
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: hockey today is yeah they didn't play great they were
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: up for nothing and but you still don't expect that
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: to happen for nothing with under three to go and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: you lose five four in overtime so Nothing's ever ideal, right?
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: The Mammoth went into Philly on Sunday, the game after
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: their captain called them soft. So now you're going to
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 5: face a team, Montreal 9-3-3, had a five-game winning streak
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: until last night that just lost 5-4. So hopefully it
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: can be something that starts another little slide for them.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 5: Canadians have only lost more than one in a row once,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: started the year winless in three. So hopefully the Mammoth
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: can hand them that second straight loss. coming back the
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 5: night after that, which if you look at the night
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 5: in hockey last night, O.C., the Mammoth beat the Maple
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: Leafs to sweep the season series there. And the talk
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: of the morning is because about 20 minutes after that,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 5: a 4-0 lead evaporated in Montreal.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: You're wearing the hometown remake sweater, as we already referenced.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: I think that the NHL did a good job with
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: these this year. I think that a lot of teams
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: look really good. Did you have favorites besides this Utah
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: Mountain Blue one?
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: I like Montreal's that they wore last night, not just
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: because they blew a 4-0 lead, but I thought Montreal
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: was sharp.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: I like Florida.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 5: I think, gosh, anytime you can lean into palm trees
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: and beaches, I do like that. Mammoth will wear these
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 5: for the first time tomorrow in Montreal. Did you see
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 5: what the Mammoth did last night, OC, with the black helmets?
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: Usually it's white helmets, salt white jerseys, and the game
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: before they're going to roll out their first third jersey ever,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: the hometown remixes, they came out with black helmets, white jerseys.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was that tweeted about that,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: but apparently the NHL has encouraged that because of the
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: digital advertising around the rink. The black color creates a
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: better contrast. Is that what you heard as well?
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw what Cole Bagley tweeted out. That was
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 5: the first that I had heard of that. But we've
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: gotten fans who have noticed stuff too, like Mikhail Sergachev's
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 5: white stick is hard to see in Certain areas.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: So everybody that I heard from liked it. I liked
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: it because they won the game. So guess what? We've
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: got a new thing.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: It's funny because we talk a lot about uniform combinations
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: in college football, right? The NFL has finally started to
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: branch out a little bit for years and years. It
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: was like, no, you wear what you wear, except on
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving you can color outside the lines. Now they're starting
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: to switch things up a little bit, alternate helmet colors.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: And I find myself, I'm such a hypocrite because I
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: always wanted the NFL to be more creative, but now
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, don't do that. It looks weird in
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: the NFL. In hockey, I'm open to it. So I
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: think it's a me problem, but the NHL, you know,
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: the NFL no fun league, resistant for a long time.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: Where's the NHL stood on all this stuff?
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: I think the NHL has been really... open and proactive
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 5: and progressive. And the number one reason I think is,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 5: you know, you, you roll out a hometown remix Jersey
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: like this one, and it's not just your fans who
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: are taking notice. It's, you know, casual bystander over here
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: who knows that we have a team, but, Oh, that
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 5: looks really cool. I want one of those. And, and
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: as I say, then you get them on the escalator
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 5: and what's the, what's the next thing. And then they
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: buy a hat and then they're, flipping through the channels,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 5: watch a game on TV, and then somebody they know
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: has a ticket. They're coming to a game.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a friend like me who's like, why
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: are you wearing that if you don't go to the games?
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: And you're like, well, okay, I'll go to the games.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: So it's a good way to put people on the
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 5: escalator to keep growing your fan base.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: We talked about this before we came on air. Four
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: sweaters this year. You've got your Home, You're Away. You've
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: got this one, the Hometown Remakes. Winter Classic sweater to
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: be released. And obviously, if you're a Utah Mammoth fan,
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: you've got to, put aside some budget to make sure
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: you get all of them this year.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 5: Uh, we, we had some fans on hockey night in
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 5: Utah last night, like debating, like, what do we do?
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 5: We can get to get, get to get one. Like
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 5: we can, we can't lose. You're going to wear this
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 5: at five games, winter classic, uh, once in a lifetime thing.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 5: If you're looking for a timetable there over the years,
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: that's typically been something that's been released in terms of
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 5: the winter classic sweater in like late November. So, That's
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 5: just the timeline, historically speaking, on the Winter Classic jerseys.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: I am very much holding my breath because my nephews
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: are coming in. The whole family is going to be here.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: I promised them we'd go to the Winter Classic, so
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: we did the whole ticket shebang. But got to do
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: the full thing. Got to get the sweaters. I'm very
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: curious to know what they look like.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, can't wait to see. That's the other thing, too, because,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 5: as you said, you roll out the– Hometown remixes, you
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 5: roll out the winter classic jerseys, and then there's a
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 5: separate line of hoodies, hats, jackets, mini sticks. You can also.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think they listen to the
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: show and take my suggestions. What I want for the
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: winter classic one, I want a skeletal mammoth, like a
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: mammoth fossil. It's not very wintry and not very Christmassy,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: but that's what I want. It's more like a Halloween
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: classic in that case.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: There's just so much stuff you can do with the brand.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 5: It's in such an infancy still that you look at
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: the original 16s, like how many more colors can you
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: make a Blackhawks jersey here?
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: The Bruins brown one, by the way, kind of cool. Yeah.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: Looks good. Yeah. But the Bruin, the Bear, yeah.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 5: But so there's just so much room to grow and
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 5: stuff you can do with with this brand and these colors. So, yeah,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: going to get more.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: Always want more.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 5: So, you know, talk about the team, OC, like another
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 5: save or two, like another five-on-five goal. Always want more
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: on the branding side, too, and we'll get it.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: On the road for eight more days, Montreal, Ottawa, Vegas,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: before they come back Thursday, November 12th, against St. Louis,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: and then it'll be five in a row at home. St. Louis,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: San Jose, Vancouver, Colorado. Anaheim. So points hopefully piling up
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: on that home stretch before you get toward the end
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: of November.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 5: Tricky thing about that one is starting that home stand
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: a night after you're in Vegas wrapping up six straight away.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you always come home and you think, okay,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 5: we'll exhale here and that first game's always might be
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 5: tougher than any of the games that you play on
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: the road trip, especially this one being Utah's second back-to-back
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 5: of the year next week.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: All right. I'm going to ask you to get out
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: of hockey mode for just a second because you know
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: what this week is in the State of Ours.
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 5: Happiest person in Utah that it's a 10 a.m.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: Game. You're happy about that?
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 5: I'm happy about that because we play at 5.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. So sorry. All right. Sorry, everybody. So all of
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: you people who are mad because you have to get
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: up early, they did this for Adrian Denny so that
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: he is not– in conflict with his.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 5: Do you know how many people that I've told since July? Like,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: what do you do on November 7th? We play at
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 5: Ottawa at 5 p.m., so pretty much every window is
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 5: a mess, except for noon Eastern, 10 Mountain.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: Sign us up. My old roommate, former player on the
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: team when I was up there, called me yesterday, and
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, when are you going to get up there?
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: Are you going to go to the tailgate? I'll stop
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: by and see you guys. He's like, oh, no, I'm
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: going to a Saints game, and we're going to the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: LSU-Alabama game instead. I was like, what is wrong with you?
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: You're leaving the state on the most important sports day
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: of the year? But conflict, man. Schedules just get mixed up.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: It's terrible. Although, LSU-Alabama, any other year, you'd be like, yeah,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: absolutely go to that game. As long as it's not
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: on the day of the Holy War, the first top
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: ten Holy War ever.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: It's a great college football Saturday. We've been talking about
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 5: it since, like, you know, the conference schedules came out, like,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: a year ago. And who would have thought?
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: But let's take it. How are you feeling?
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 5: I feel good. I feel good.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: Told you.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 5: I told you, OC. First of the year, Morgan Scowley
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 5: is the head coach. Going back to my feelings and
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 5: my emotions, watching the Vegas Bowl last year when Utah–
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 5: took it to Nebraska, and they didn't stop. I'm watching that,
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, this is how it felt in 03
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 5: and 04 when Morgan Scali was on the team and
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 5: Urban Meyer was the head coach. That's what I feel
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 5: from this team and Morgan and his coaching staff. is
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 5: um you know that that game in cincinnati is is
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 5: what we're talking about just just came out and went
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: to town in the first half.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's hard to overcome the predictable nature of
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: college football when it comes to that stuff right we
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: we know that it's a problem we know it's an
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: issue the look-ahead spot, everyone is like, watch out for this,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: watch out for this. Hey, hangover losses are a thing.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: Watch out for those. They don't sneak up on anybody,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: and yet they still happen. And they managed to not
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: only avoid the loss, but they came out and it
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: was over at halftime. And then the second half issues,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: I think, were a result of it being over at halftime. But, yeah,
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: it was really fascinating to see that from, again, a
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: first-year head coach with first-year coordinators on both sides of
• 2:08:43
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  Speaker 5: And for me, OC, that was one game since week
• 2:08:50
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• 2:08:54
  Speaker 5: sit down, watch the whole thing, and enjoy it. That's
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 5: what you want to see if you don't get to
• 2:09:00
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• 2:09:08
  Speaker 5: of that first half. It was just enjoyable. They weren't
• 2:09:11
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• 2:09:16
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of too many kids.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it's good to hear your voice. Hopefully you're doing well.
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  Speaker 2: This is my favorite week of the year. It's the
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: greatest sports day on the calendar here in Utah every
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: single year. I will not hear any other opinions on
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: the matter. Utah BYU in 2026, arguably the biggest it's
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: ever been. You go back to your playing days, and
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: you think about the BYU-Utah games that you played in.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: There were some big ones, but this one is for
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: inside track to a conference championship appearance. It's for inside
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: track to a college football playoff. It's the first time
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: ever they've both been ranked inside the top ten. I mean,
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: go back to your days. Did you ever see it
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  Speaker 2: getting this big?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all. I mean, I think it was–
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: It was always big for us regionally and, of course, locally,
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: but never did it get the national attention that this
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: one will have. I mean, the one that I would
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 3: think kind of got the world introduced to the rivalry
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: was when we were fighting for that first BTS buster appearance.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: in 2004, and obviously we had to beat BYU in
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: order to qualify and get to the festival. I think
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: that introduced it, of course. I think it was the
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: first time game day came to Utah, so they got
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  Speaker 3: a little piece, a little idea of what this game's
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: all about, but no, this is by far the biggest
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  Speaker 3: one on record for sure with all that lies ahead
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: and the meaning of what this game is. uh, and provide,
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: it's going to be, it's huge. Yeah. It goes unsaid.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, this team, I mean, you were, you were
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: part of that undefeated team in 2004. And one thing
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  Speaker 2: that even, you know, the, the lowly walk-ons, the, the
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: scout teamers of that day, like myself, one thing that
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  Speaker 2: was so noticeable about that team, uh, was the attention
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: to detail, everybody knowing their exact role and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: handle your real estate in the games, handle your real
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: estate in the practice week. Don't be the guy that
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: colors outside the lines and causes issues. And obviously the
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: results ended up speaking for themselves. We're eight games into it.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Morgan Scali's first year as a head coach.
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  Speaker 2: And he's already got kind of that same thing going on,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: at least from the outside looking in Steve, you know,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: Morgan better than I do. Like The fact that he
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: has it dialed in the way he does in his
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: first year as a head coach, what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that was the– when people
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 3: asked me how I think Morgan would do, I had
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: zero doubts he'd be successful and be where he's at
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 3: today because, you know– I think what's interesting with Morgan
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: is he was a player during Urban's year. Urban's two years,
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 3: I guess, but more importantly, that Fiesta Bowl year. So
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: he got to experience what it took to get to
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: that level as a player. But also, Morgan was.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: That class, speaking of which, that class was extremely talented,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: but the leadership that that team had was... unlike any
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  Speaker 3: we've had at Utah before. And so Morgan, of course,
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  Speaker 3: was with the leader of that pack. um, he saw
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  Speaker 3: what it took. He obviously saw what, what football was
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 3: like before urban got there. So, you know, Morgan had
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  Speaker 3: a contrast in, um, you know, coaching philosophies and, and
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 3: obviously saw what it took to get to the next level.
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  Speaker 3: So I think Morgan has a unique experience in that
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: becoming a head coach. He knows not only what it took,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: you know, as a player, but now, of course, now
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: as a coach and putting his spin on it, but
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  Speaker 3: that's why it doesn't surprise me where he's at. I
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  Speaker 3: think he really has that unique perspective of before and
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: after Utah football from regionally being every once in a
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  Speaker 3: while being nationally ranked to now here they are routinely
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: top 25 team.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: Obviously Morgan moving into the head coaching position meant that
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: somebody else was going to have to elevate into that
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator role and Colton Swann gets that call up,
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: and he's been excellent so far as a guy who
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: played in a defense that was, I mean, pretty nearly
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: identical to the way they still run things up there.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on his little twists and flavor on it,
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: and we'll get to the safety play specifically here in
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: a second, but just Colton Swann as the D.C., what
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  Speaker 2: have you liked, and what do you notice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, again, consistency. You look at Utah, you know,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: BYU's learned that now, of course. You know, with Papinga,
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 3: Jay Hill, Papinga, but Coach Anderson, who's there, that's been
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 3: able to mentor, you know, Kelly Papinga in that role. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, consistency and consistency. what's unique about Utah is just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's, it's a system that's built that, that
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  Speaker 3: provides success and builds you to be successful as a player.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I, so when I was, I was talking
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  Speaker 3: to my son who was at Stanford and comparing, you know,
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: I transferred from Utah state to Utah and I was
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: looking at kind of my staff at Utah state compared
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: to my staff at Utah and, you know, drastically different. And,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: you know, did I change as a player? No, same,
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  Speaker 3: same athleticism, same speed, same attributes I had. Now I,
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  Speaker 3: Utah was able to take that, put me into a
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  Speaker 3: system and maximize, obviously, my abilities. and develop. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's what's... Sometimes that goes overlooked in college football,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: but Utah has a system that develops kids, so it's
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: plug and play every year. It's no wonder why every
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: year they're going to have a top 25 defense is
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: because they've got that system in place. They know how
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: to develop. They look for that type of athlete. Colton
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  Speaker 3: Swann is just another kind of D.C. falling in line
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: with what has worked in the past and not necessarily–
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: Not necessarily staying with what's old, but always finding ways
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 3: to tweak it, but not changing true identity of the defense.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 3: That's bringing pressure. That's playing man coverage. It's creating zone
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 3: pressures as well. No drop-off with Colton Swan. He's been
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: everything that Morgan was before, and obviously Whittingham before that.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: I know you watch safety play closely, and I imagine
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: there's a certain affection for guys like Nate Ritchie and
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: Jackson Benny, who are, you know, local products. But Rabbit
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: Evans has been a revelation for this team as well.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: What do you think of the safety group? And Benny
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: has done a little bit of everything, so I'll put
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  Speaker 2: him in that mix for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Benny, you know, reminds me of Weddle. I
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: know that's high praise, but as far as being able
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  Speaker 3: to do everything, you know. Most people remember Weddle as
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 3: a safety, but Weddle played the majority of his time
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 3: at Utah at that corner. Very similar to Benny. Credit
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: Evans and Richie because without those two, it's allowed Benny
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: to go play in that nickel position. uh, player and,
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 3: and obviously bring one more talent to that defense. And,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: and those three are, are dynamic. Uh, you know, Richie's
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: a guy who's experienced all, all three are experienced players
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: and that's unique. You don't, you don't get that very
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: often guys who have been in the system and, you know,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 3: credit Utah for keeping, keeping their players, you know, in
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 3: this day and age right now with, uh, the transfer
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 3: portal and everything like that. It's, it's, It's very unique
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  Speaker 3: to have the guys that they have with the experience
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: they have at one school. I think that's really telling
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: for both BYU and Utah. It's unlike what's going on
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 3: right now in college football, but Utah's been able to
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: do that and develop their guys. Credit to the guys
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 3: as well for trusting their coaches. It takes a consistent
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: coaching staff like Utah's had to get them to this
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: point and to be successful. Those guys take you pride.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 3: They are representing for sure.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: You've done a little coaching yourself. How would you contain
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier? He's a problem.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Bear. I watched him. He played a
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 3: spring ball with my son at Stanford. The one thing
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 3: about Bear that you may or may not see from TV,
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 3: but in person up close, he is thick. The guy
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 3: is really a fullback type player playing that quarterback role.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 3: So What's unique is that he's hard to bring down.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know his measurables as compared to Tim Tebow,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: but I'd say he's every bit as strong as Tim
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 3: Tebow was, but they're very similar in how they play.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 3: They're gritty. Nothing seems to really razzle him. I think
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: that's what's been unique with Barrett, to be able to
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: start as a true freshman, and he hasn't been able to...
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: No one's really been able to rattle the cage and
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: get to him. He's mentally strong now. He comes from
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: a family who's– all of them have played that. So
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: it's a guy who– it's in his DNA. I don't
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: know how you can– I mean, I think he's a
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 3: guy that's not going to outrun you. But what's unique
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: is his vertical run game is as good as any
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: quarterback right now in college football. Now, he won't get
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: around the edges. That's not what he's designed for. But,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: you know– It's hard because typically when you've got a
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 3: fast athletic quarterback, you want to make sure you keep
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: him in pocket. You don't want them to bounce, and
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: he's different. You almost want him to bounce because he's
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: not as good bouncing off the edges as he is
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: interiorly going lateral in the run game. Hard to contain. Certainly,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: it's going to put a lot of pressure on the linebackers.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll be creative. Colton Swan will be creative
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: on how to contain him and keep him in check.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 3: He's more dangerous, I think, when he starts to get
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 3: the run game going.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: This is the first year I can remember where Utah's
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: defensive end room is just like they're very solid against
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 2: the run, but they're not creating the havoc in the backfield.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: They're not creating the sacks. I mean, it's an identity
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: position at the University of Utah, and the defense is
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: still performing well. very well despite that so when you
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: watch that and if there is a bone to pick
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: i think that's it about this utah defense and you
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: know obviously what those guys are able to do or
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: not do affects what you guys would do in the
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: back end so how do you how do you maximize
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: what you're getting from the front when you're a safety
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: who relies on those guys especially in those man coverage situations.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. This year is
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: probably unlike the years prior where it hasn't necessarily been
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 3: their strong suit. But, you know, Utah's always done a
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 3: good job of just being creative with with their defensive
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: line stemming, running in and out and crossing and just
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: creating a little havoc there for the offensive linemen. Make
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman think, and the more those offensive linemen
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: have to think of where they're going to be, that
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 3: confuses them. But I think it's going to be a
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: little bit of a chess match because, interesting enough, I
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 3: think that's where, of all the places where I think
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: Roderick I think he attacks the edges the best. He's
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: a guy that still will go against a man-coverage team.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: He'll run the speed option, which is kind of archaic
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 3: now in college football, but Robert calls that quite often
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 3: in man-to-man coverage. He really attacks the edges. It's funny
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: you bring that up. I think that's going to be
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: the place where BYU tries to attack Um, and all
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: that is, you know, I think that's going to put more,
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 3: more pressure on linebackers, grateful to top and not get
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 3: cut off by the interior alignment. But, um, yeah, I
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: think that's, that's, that's going to be, that's going to
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: be the, the, the matchup to watch in my opinion.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: How does it go? Who wins? How do they win?
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like the favorite team in this. I
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: like Utah. Um, I just think Utah has been so
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 3: dynamic on both sides. Um, You know, it's probably a
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 3: boring answer, but it's going to come down to some
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: sort of special team play, I think. Oddly enough, I
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 3: think that third team will probably be the highlight. Something
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 3: will happen there, either gain advantage somehow in the special
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 3: teams game. But, you know, I think Utah wins in
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: this one. I think BYU at home is clearly... I mean,
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 3: that's probably the case for everyone, so not a great
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  Speaker 3: analysis on my part. But I think playing at BYU
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  Speaker 3: is extremely difficult. It's really hard to play there. So
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a little... But then again, when you're
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  Speaker 3: playing a rivalry game, I look back on my rivalry games,
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  Speaker 3: and we were almost more successful at BYU than we
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  Speaker 3: were at home because it's just the atmosphere. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think... This is unique, but BYU on the road
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been as potent as they have been at home.
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  Speaker 3: I think Utah comes away with this one, and Scali
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  Speaker 3: gets his first win against BYU as a head coach.
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  Speaker 2: Is it hard? now that your son, like he's the
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  Speaker 2: boy has become a warrior and he's at Stanford and
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  Speaker 2: you were at Utah. So it was like, does he
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  Speaker 2: listen to you? Because you know, he gets to, he
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  Speaker 2: gets to say I'm smarter than you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that, that he's, he's definitely smarter. He's definitely bigger. Um, I,
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  Speaker 3: I can't outrun him. So there are very few things
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  Speaker 3: that I've got right now that on him, I might
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  Speaker 3: have a, I might have a little more money than
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  Speaker 3: he does. So I have him in that right now.
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  Speaker 2: At this point in life. He probably still depends on
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: that a little too much to talk too much trash.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. I mean, his NIL only goes so far before
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  Speaker 3: he still has to rely on me for a meal.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fantastic. Well, are you going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to make it up to the game, or do you have, like,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: Little League?
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  Speaker 3: Of all the weeks, this happens to be the week
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  Speaker 3: that Stanford's on a bye, so.
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  Speaker 3: But I gave up, obviously, my season tickets because I
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 3: clearly have season tickets at Stanford and don't have a
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 3: reason for them at Utah anymore. But of all the
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 3: times I wish I had, it would have been this week.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll be watching in person. Although I've got a
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: soccer game and two basketball games, so I'll be watching
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: it remotely on the phone, trying to keep up with everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that dad life. Too many kids. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody should explain to you how that happens, Steven.
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  Speaker 3: You can avoid it in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Off air. Yeah. Thanks for your time, dude. Good talking
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  Speaker 2: to you. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Great talking to you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be in touch steve.
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  Speaker 2: Tate all conference safety in his days at the university
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: of utah father of six and uh yeah his son
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: bo is uh playing for that stanford football team Pretty
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: great stuff from the Utah football legend, Steve Tate. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we're down here at All Trade Staffing. We do have
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: some tickets to Queens of the Stone Age to give
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: away in our final segment, which is coming next. We'll
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: do that after a break. But before we go to
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: the break, I want to make sure we give Josie
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: the correct amount of time to call you to action.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: We're down here at. All trade staffing, the phone number
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  Speaker 2: I keep giving you today, you should have put it
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: in your phone already, but please do it now. 801-313-1234.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a business owner, whoever has staffing needs, you
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 2: need to have that phone number. If you're somebody who's
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: ever looking for extra work or you're in the job market, 801-313-1234.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: They can take care of you in placing you for
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: work as well. Josie, one last time here while we're
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: at all trade staffing. Josie, why do people need to
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: call and why do they need to do it today?
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  Speaker 9: Because they need a job, and they have jobs that
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 9: need to be finished. And talking with my staff today,
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 9: we've kind of decided that we're going to throw out
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 9: any new customers that call us and sign up today
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  Speaker 9: on their first invoice, we're going to give them a
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  Speaker 9: 30% discount.
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  Speaker 6: 30%?
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: That's a big discount.
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 8: That's a huge discount.
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  Speaker 9: And any workers that come in to apply for a job,
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 9: and they tell us that they were sent to us from.
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  Speaker 8: the radio.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: If they tell us how they heard about us, we're
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 9: going to put their names in a bucket. And at
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 9: the end of the month, I'm going to do a
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 9: gift card and I'm going to draw a name.
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  Speaker 8: So what do you got to lose?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. 30% discount. If you're looking for workers on your
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: first invoice, that is a massive, that's the biggest one
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  Speaker 2: you've done for us.
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  Speaker 8: I think that is.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: Make sure that you tell Josie and company, you heard
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  Speaker 2: about it on ESPN 700 on the Sean O'Connell show
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: mentioned ESPN 700 in order to get that discount. If
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: you're looking for workers, if you're looking for work, you
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: already need the job. Might as well get a gift
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: card on top of it. Again, mention ESPN 700 when
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: you sign up and your name goes in the raffle.
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  Speaker 2: All trades temp dot com eight zero one three one
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  Speaker 2: three one two three four. And always you could stop
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: by in person at one eighty two West Haven Avenue.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you this time of year, we're always hearing
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: about people. I need work. I need extra work. I
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: get it. It can be hard to find it. It
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: can be time-consuming and annoying to have to go through
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: all the classifieds and stuff like that. Don't have to
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: do that. Josie's got you covered. She'll place you where
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: you need to be.
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  Speaker 9: Yep, absolutely. Just come on down, and we'll talk to
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 9: you and get you in somewhere where you want to be. And, yeah,
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 9: we'll get you working and get you through Christmas.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: I saw you talking to Adrian, our mammoth guy.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, he's amazing. Yeah, he's cool. Next time I'm going
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 8: to take his.
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  Speaker 4: Shirt, though.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: That was a nice, those new sweaters are nice.
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 8: They're way nice.
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  Speaker 2: They're really cool.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 8: Way, way nice, yes.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to find a way to get one
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: down here. Dreams, dreams. What did it do with David
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: Avenue in South Salt Lake? It's AllTradesStaffing, AllTradesTemp.com, 801-313-1234. Make
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: sure you mention the Sean O'Connell Show and ESPN 700.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: One last break, then we'll give away some Queens of
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: the Stone Age tickets with topical trivia, and then we're done.
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  Speaker 2: It's Utah's number one sports talk in your home of
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: the Utes, ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I've got a pair of Queens of the
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: Stone Age tickets to give away. We went through more
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: blind stack comparisons on the show earlier today. They're on
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell Twitter account at RealOC Sports. How many touchdowns,
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: so outside of quarterback rushing touchdowns, outside of receiver rushing touchdowns,
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: how many touchdowns has the Utah running back room received?
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 2: provided for the Utah football team this year. So Stephen
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: Chavez Soto, Daniel Bray, Bam Bell, Way Sean Parker. Those guys,
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: how many touchdowns have they scored as we do the
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: stack comparisons between Utah and BYU's positional rooms? 877-353-0700 on
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  Speaker 2: the text line for a pair of Queens of the
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  Speaker 2: Stone Age tickets coming to the Delta Center tonight. on
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  Speaker 2: May 11th of next year. Big thanks to everyone for listening. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: if you are a worker looking for work, All Trade Staffing, 801-313-1234.
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: If you're a business owner who occasionally or always needs
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: more bodies, more helping hands to help you get some
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: jobs done, right now, if you call and mention the
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700, 801-313-1234. They will give
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: you 30% off your first invoice. That is the biggest
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: discount they have ever offered to our listeners. AllTradesTemp.com. Tell
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: Josie and the crew that you heard about it on
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 2: ESPN 700. We're going to turn it over to The
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: Drive with Spence Checketts. Got a great show lined up
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: for you tomorrow. We'll talk to you then. It's the
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show on Utah's number one sports talk, ESPN
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: 700 and 92.1 FM.