Latest / The SME Stream / Oliver Mander: NZ Shareholders Association CEO on Fletcher Building disappointing shareholders at recent AGM
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, Fletcher Building's chief executive and board faced some pretty
- 0:02Speaker 1: unhappy shareholders today at the company's and your General Meeting.
- 0:06Speaker 1: The new chief executive, Andrew Reading, had to deliver more
- 0:09Speaker 1: bad news, if you can believe it, announcing that revenue
- 0:11Speaker 1: was down twelve percent in September compared to a year
- 0:14Speaker 1: ago and gross margins were under pressure. Oliver Amanda is
- 0:17Speaker 1: the chief executive of the Shareholders Association and he was
- 0:20Speaker 1: actually at the AGM today. Hey Oliver, Hi, Heather, how
- 0:24Speaker 1: are you very well?
- 0:25Speaker 2: Thank you?
- 0:25Speaker 1: Although jeez, when is this bad news going to end?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Well?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Shareholders of Fletcher Building really hope it ends very soon.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Do you expect that it will end soon?
- 0:38Speaker 2: Though?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Hope and expectation are two completely different things.
- 0:42Speaker 2: They completely are. And look, that was one of the
- 0:44Speaker 2: questions that I did ask today. Look, I think the
- 0:46Speaker 2: thing that really still out at the meeting for me
- 0:48Speaker 2: was the fact that the people on the podium to day,
- 0:53Speaker 2: they were a very humble group of people. And that's
- 0:55Speaker 2: the sort of humilidity that we have not seen in
- 0:57Speaker 2: a Fletcher Building board for a very long time.
- 1:01Speaker 1: How did they demonstrate their humility?
- 1:04Speaker 2: I think they they were very prepared to listen to
- 1:06Speaker 2: what shareholders had to say.
- 1:08Speaker 3: They allowed, you know, the.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Questions that were being asked were really quite authentic in
- 1:13Speaker 2: terms of what was coming from the floor and the
- 1:15Speaker 2: impact that the that the company's performance has had on
- 1:18Speaker 2: shareholders in terms of their.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Own returns and expectations.
- 1:24Speaker 2: And the company was very clear about taking accountability for that.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Board members, individual board members are very clear.
- 1:28Speaker 3: About taking accountability for that.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah, we know from what we wrote back in February
- 1:33Speaker 2: that since February, the board has taken significant steps to
- 1:36Speaker 2: address many of the kids and the concerns that we're raised,
- 1:39Speaker 2: and that does include the fact that half the board
- 1:40Speaker 2: is now no longer there.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Do you think accountability is part of the reason why
- 1:45Speaker 1: Barbara Chapman is announced she's going to resign as a director.
- 1:50Speaker 2: I think that is a that's a really good question, Heather,
- 1:54Speaker 2: That's possibly it, but also it's Fletcher Building has been
- 1:58Speaker 2: a notoriously difficult company to govern for some time. I
- 2:04Speaker 2: don't think Chapman ever put herself forward as a long
- 2:06Speaker 2: term chair for the organization. I think the board has
- 2:10Speaker 2: listened to shareholders in terms of seeking out experienced people
- 2:14Speaker 2: in the building products industry or building materials background that
- 2:18Speaker 2: are probably much more suited to that board. Any board
- 2:22Speaker 2: needs a balance of skills to govern itself effectively. That's
- 2:24Speaker 2: very true. But also when things not balanced, things don't
- 2:28Speaker 2: go well. And that was a point that was made
- 2:29Speaker 2: by shareholders today as well.
- 2:32Speaker 1: You must know the new chief executive because he was
- 2:34Speaker 1: obviously the chair at the Shareholders Association for Ages.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so I know Andrew reading very well until
- 2:41Speaker 2: August the twenty second.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Of course he was my chair here, so that's right.
- 2:45Speaker 1: And tell me about him. Has he got the chops
- 2:47Speaker 1: to turn this thing around?
- 2:49Speaker 2: Well, we would argue that Andrew he knew Fletchers when
- 2:55Speaker 2: it was good, way back in two thousand and six
- 2:57Speaker 2: when he worked there, and he certainly comes from pedigree
- 3:01Speaker 2: at that time at a time and the company was
- 3:03Speaker 2: high performing at a time when look, he was one
- 3:08Speaker 2: of the people have been running for the top job
- 3:10Speaker 2: at that time.
- 3:11Speaker 3: So knowing what the company was like when.
- 3:12Speaker 2: It's good, balanced with a very heavy dose of external perspective,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and in did to say his own commentary on Fletcher
- 3:19Speaker 2: Building dating from way before I got here. Look, I
- 3:24Speaker 2: think that does provide the new broom that shareholders have
- 3:27Speaker 2: been looking for and what was really interesting, I mean,
- 3:30Speaker 2: since he's been there in the two short months since
- 3:33Speaker 2: he hasn't oounced the strategic review of the portfolio of
- 3:36Speaker 2: businesses that Fletcher holds. We think that's a really critical
- 3:39Speaker 2: step because actually that's ultimately about making sure that the
- 3:41Speaker 2: company allocates capital and the right way allocate's capital into
- 3:45Speaker 2: the businesses that can provide the highest return for shareholders
- 3:48Speaker 2: going forward.
- 3:50Speaker 3: And you know.
- 3:50Speaker 2: He's got a very focused plan would seem focused on
- 3:54Speaker 2: cost reduction, cash management, capital avocation, closing out the legacy
- 3:59Speaker 2: issues had as well as that strategic review. So all
- 4:02Speaker 2: that sounds really promising and well hopeful for shareholders to use.
- 4:07Speaker 3: That terrible word.
- 4:09Speaker 2: And look, we would hope he's being supported by a
- 4:12Speaker 2: board that can give him the support that he needs
- 4:15Speaker 2: to undertake his work.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yeah, fair point, Oliver, Thanks very much. Oliver Man, the
- 4:18Speaker 1: chief executive of the Shareholders Association. She's tough times at
- 4:20Speaker 1: Fletcher