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all Nerds show, and you know, thank you very much for joining us,
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you know, welcome back to all of our listeners, to all the
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new people out there, thank you. We're here once again. It's a
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very special episode, you know. Um, we're gonna be talking about a
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little movie we got to see, or some of us stop to see,
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as the case may be, about that, about that Dungeons and Dragons,
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Honor among thieves or on tee if it's if it's thieves, it's tiefs,
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because that's why I'm from Brooklyn. So we out light teeth teeth, Light
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Thief Match crook. Oh god, yeah, man, we saw yeah,
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well yeah, y'all we saw the new Dungeon and Dragons film. I found
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out this is like the fourth or fifth Dudgeons and Dragons film technically word I
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know. Yeah. So apparently there was a bunch in the two thousands,
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and like at least two of them was like directed video. Yeah, okay,
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okay, I believe that. Okay, because there's Marlon Wayne's joint.
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I know that that was. Now that's what fucking shot at me because that
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was the first one when I was looking it up and it said Marlin Wayne.
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I said, Marlon Waynes, what did he play the teeth? Of
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course he was black. I mean, what would you expect the two I'm
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trying to google it and you're just saying this. Look, that's what Chico
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Leo told me. Chico Leo was there in the house last night. Shouts
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to the Chico Leo, the legend for our nerds. Long time listeners will
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know who I'm talking about. He was there last night. He peeped it
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with me, and uh yeah, he told me that Marlin Wayne's played the
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teeth. I'm not going to disagree with that. Yeah, So that one
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came out, well, I don't know if that was specific was Marlin's,
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But there was one that came out in the two thousand, literally the year
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two thousand and then there was one that came out two thousand and five.
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Another one came out to twenty twelve, and they was keeping track because they
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said that twenty twelve one was the third one, so I had no fucking
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clue. And then it's this one, so apparently four. Have you been
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following any of these films hell to the know? Like for what? Like,
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I have you even seen the Marlin Wayne's version parts? How was it
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in parts? I don't. I can't judge that movie, you know.
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How wasn't the parts that you saw? I can't remember. That's that's why
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the movies that was like on cable or something that was like oh okay,
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it wasn't even like a full like oh hell no. I never tried to,
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you know, like I never attempted to be like, let me go
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watch the Dungeons and Dragons movie with Marlon Wayne's in it. Well, when
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you say it like that, Ben, I mean that was never my plan.
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Look, I love Marlin Wayne's and a lot of films but it's just
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say he gonna be a Dungeons and Dragon movie with Marlon Wayne's and I'm gonna
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you know, no, that's not the one I'm gonna hunt down. All
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right, Well apparently I barely would have hunted down this. Well, let's
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talk about that a little bit because this this uh and first of all,
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it's called Honor among Thieves. So it is thiefs, Yeah, tiefs man.
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And it's starring Cris Pine, Chelle Rodriguez, reggae reggae Jean Paul right,
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is it? No, it's not. Don't please tell me that man's
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name is not reggae r eg apostogy, r eg e apostogy, not like
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reggae music. Calm down, Calm down, but the damn here not rega,
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not reggae John Yeah, but Justice Smith, who actually played the kid
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in the Pikachu, the Protective Pikachu movie. So I thought he was also
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in the latest Jurassic Park, oh, of which I didn't watch, which
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I did. Did you like it? No, he's unfortunately okay, Um,
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Hugh Grant and then a bunch of other people were in the film.
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Yes, a bunch of other people. I know these people. Yeah,
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no, I just oh, shout out to Sophia Lillus, who's also in
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the Joint. She's one of the party members. She plays the Druid,
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and I really liked her in the Joint. Um. But yeah, I
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like I we are saying I would not have hunted this down. I just
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know, Okay. I'm a lifelong fan of Dungeons and Dragons jaw even before
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comic books. Dungeons and Dragons. Well, Star Wars is my initial introduction
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to geet them. That's like it begins and ends with Star Wars, but
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then the first like I read a lot of fantasy books even before that,
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I think, but Dungeons and Dragons was like the first thing where I was
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like, oh, I'm a geek, you know what I mean, because
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that's like some real super geek shit. And I knew doing it with some
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super geek shit, but I loved it, you know. And this was
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like early basic addition, a basic edition for those who know the original Dudgeons
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Dragons, the Red and Blue books, Like shit's worth dumb money right now.
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If I had on my wish, I don't all that. Up to
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second edition, I was still rocking heavy, you know. The cartoon on
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TV. That was a lot of people's introduction to the eighties. If you
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are up in the eighties, that's like a lot of people's introduction the Dungeons
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and Dragons. I love that joint. There was a TV show, it
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was a cartoon. It was Yeah, it's a cartoon from the eighties.
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They referenced in the film. Oh spoiler, we'll bleep that out. That's
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not really a spoiler. Yeah, it's been in reference. But the fact
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that you just said there was references doesn't mean anything true. Indeed, Well,
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the eighties cartoon was a lot of people's introduction, but Dudgeons Dragons were
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just heavy for me. That's what got me into war Hammer, got me
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into pretty much role playing games in general, and every other role playing game
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that I played, which was a multitude of them. So I go back
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with this joint, you know, so I was not expecting anything because you
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know, there was the joint with Marlon Wayne's where right from what people have
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said, it was not that good. But Marlon Wade is not the withstanding.
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I thought, like when when I first started here rumblings at this,
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I like, I knew that about your background, about the stuff you like
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in d and d and all that, so I was sure that you would
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be the first one talking about take me to this film. Nah, And
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it was kind of the opposite. You were like, well, you know,
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if I get a chance to see it, I'll see it. But
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like I mean me, I go ahead. You could, you could continue,
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but like did, I didn't really have much of a It's also because
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my geeth with dungeons and dragons are so deep, right, Like, I'm
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a fiend of the dragon Lance series and also the Forgotten Realms with Raceland,
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I mean not the Raceland, dragon Lance. Drizz It due Order from the
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fort in Realms. He's a droll elf character. He's super popular. I
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think there's a video game finally coming with him. I can't remember, but
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that is my dude, you know, drives It, the Crystal Shard series
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all that, that's where I go back to. And then dragon Lance is
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my other one. These are two different worlds, dragon Lance in the Forgotten
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Realms, but those are my two big like fendoms, And since this movie
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wasn't based on either, I was just like, Ah, it's just gonna
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be some you know, this some ship for the kids. You know,
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this ain't no that this ain't the hardcore shit that I want, you know,
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And so that's what I wasn't really that hype about it. Well,
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wow, I just realized how much of a Dungeons and Dragons, like you
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know, Jesus you okay eat them runs deep with everything. My gingk thumb
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was a negative ten for this because I don't know shit about shit when it
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comes to dungeon and Dragon's dragons metaphor right there. Oh really yeah, you
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know, like most things are like plus five or negative. Like I get
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that from RPGs in general, but I know that tabletop yeah. But yeah,
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so so like I'm an RPG girl all day, but I mean gaming
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RPG it's like final fantasies and things like that. You know they Balter's Gate
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that was a dope ont nah, yeah, Balter's Gate was a dope PC.
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Uh Dragons gay Yeah, And then you know, like some some PC
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forgot like the very first one. It was something where I like accidentally drowned
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the guy in like five minutes. I was like, all right, so
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but that and I was like I had so me going in this, like
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I don't know shit about ship and it comes to dungeons and dragons. I
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have no frame of reference whatsoever, right, so I didn't judge it bad
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or good. I was just like, I have no fucking clue what I'm
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getting myself into. You know, I'm gonna I got invited. I said,
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all I'm gonna see this and see what's up. And I was pretty
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pretty much an open book at that point. I was just like, let's
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do it, you know, um, and I have some thoughts, so
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well, let me maybe I should put this disclaimer out there before I get
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too deep into things. I unfortunately was only able to see like half the
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movie because I became unwell halfway through and had to leave, but had to
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exit stage left. So I'm gonna have to watch it again and another time
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on my own time and maybe come back with an update. But I'm just
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gonna give y'all when we go through this how I feel about the half that
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I did see. But of that TANGI sickness as they say, yes,
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So overall, like I said, I was not that hype about it.
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I was like, Okay, I'm thank you, you know, for those
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who sent us in and let us see this joint, because that's probably the
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only way I would have seen it untils on streaming, and my overall thoughts
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are I really enjoyed it, like good it's Cheeko Leo enjoyed it too.
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I heard, yes, the Cheeko Leo thoroughly and enjoyed it as well.
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And he was he had bigger reservations than I did. He was not anticipating
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in anything, and I really enjoyed it. I think overall it is a
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mix of the Guardians of the Galaxy formula with the Fast and Furious formula,
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which is basically sent it on family and the Marvel formerly in general for the
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first few phases, which was centered around broken characters coming together and finding ways
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to overcome their brokenness together as a family. So it's I mean, it's
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heavy on that. Like there's and the marvelness. There's the red references to
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Marvel stuff, some of the storytelling tricks and everything called back to Marvel.
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There's a very quick after the credit scene. I won't spoil anything about it.
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It's very quick. I'm not sure if there's two are screening ended immediately
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after the first one. So there's all these things that you've come to know
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from Marvel films. There's all the quips, all the characters are making jokes.
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They're not so much self aware, but they're definitely you know, jokey
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about things. And I loved it. I mean I loved but I was
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like, Okay, I could see more from this franchise, and it hit
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all the sweet spots for the Dudgeons and dragons heads, and it's probably gonna
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hit even more than I knew. Like I called a lot of references.
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There's a certain monster that at one point I'm like, yo, what is
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that? And then the name popped in my head and I'm like, oh
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my god, I'm such a fucking geek, Like how did I remember this
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name? At this monster from like twenty years ago before they I mean maybe
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even longer before the characters even said it, because it's just in me.
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So there's a lot of stuff like that. But there there was other things
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I'm like, what is that? You know? And I know other people
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can be like, oh shit, it's you know, So there was a
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lot of that. The costumes, everything, the creatures all are very cool.
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There's some really fun references and a huge cameo after shows up at one
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point that you know, it's not in anything I've seen before. Everyone in
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the kinda was like, oh is that, Oh that is okay, you
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know, a great scene. So it did what it needed to do.
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You know, it's a great setup for a Dungeons and Dragons franchise and solid
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joint. I left with no real complaints. I'll get into some more stuff,
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you know that I liked them, didn't like, you know, after
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a while, but I definitely want to hear what you know, what I
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had, what I thought about the happy yeah, and why it was a
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little less than half. I'll tell you a movie does don't on for a
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little bit. Okay, Well, thanks for letting me know it was less
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than half, because it was already a long time by the time I had
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to get up in debt. But I mean Tom is traveling in a weird
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way at that point, so um, well, first of all, I
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wasn't comfortable with the environment we were in, so we weren't in a regular
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theater. We were in one of these weird four D theater spaces. And
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what that means is they just put more of like the canvas, like the
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canvas that you watch the movie the film on, They put that on the
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side wall so that instead of just watching, you know, the screen in
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front of whatever degrees that is, you get more of a one hundred and
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eighty degree filled a vision. But it's not like a curved screen. It's
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like four corners, you know, like a like a box that you're normally
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in in the room, and so there's a very hard seam at the corners
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and then you know the side walls, right, so there there. What's
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the word that they're they're they're throwing this film. I don't know the word,
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I'm looking for it right now, but they're putting this film on the
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wall and it's extending to each side of you. And the reason why I
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didn't like that because it was disorienting to me, Like even when it first
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starts, like they put up like this grid up and they're like basically trying
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to train you to look they like, only look ahead and do this,
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and I adn't like all that. I just wanted to be in the regular
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fucking screen. I want to either REGA screen or IMAX. I don't like
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all this extra shit that it was doing too much, and just it just
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felt like it's like you're trying to force a VR experience on me without giving
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me the headset. I ain't like that. That's number one, okay,
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but that's not the fall of the film. I'm just letting y'all know.
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I was uncomfortable in the environment period. The theater was packed. I don't
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know about that, but it was enough people in there in the theater,
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okay, Benavi. So that's one I remember. I don't have a frame
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of reference, which is fine because there's lots of films I watched with I
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have no idea who's who, what's what, and that's that's most new films
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you see right less it's Marvel, right ye um. I don't know if
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that harm to hurt me, because I just felt lost during what I was
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watching. And what I mean by that is it's not that it was hard
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to follow, like point A, let the point beIN, like it made
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sense in the logical logically, but it just didn't make sense for me from
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a storytelling me fact that I was like, why are they doing this?
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And it went from like okay, word again there in the room too,
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Oh, we gotta go save somebody to up something's on fire? Like it
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was just very for me. It was kind of abrupt, and I was
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just lost, like, well, what's what's the driving force. Then I
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remember, this is dungeon and dragons. Shit, just fucking happens. Fine,
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no problem. The I did not like the dialogue. I didn't really
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like the dialogue um, and particularly in the especially the bulk of the half
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that I saw was exposition heavy. In fact, it was like that first
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twenty five minutes was all fucking Crispine talking and then you get the dungeons and
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dragons flash screen and I was just like, oh, so we haven't even
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started the field yet. Time was traveling different for us. It was twenty
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five minutes. I haven't. I actually I actually looked on my on my
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watch and that's how I do. So I was like, okay, um,
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so like again I was, it's not like it's a black screen and
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I was talking and you know that, Ben, I mean, yes,
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there's things happening screen. But yeah, here's my thing. I don't like
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for long periods of time watching action or things. And I say action,
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not an action scene, but things happening on screen. Okay. I don't
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like seeing action and someone talking over that action for very very long periods of
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time. That that annoyed me deeply, Okay. And then the way the
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words were used the dialogue it to give you my overall I felt like someone
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gave chat GBT instructions to make a feeling about like dungeons and dragons, and
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this is what it came out with. Now, clearly I'm in the minority,
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because when you look on Rotten Tomatoes, you'll see both critics and audience
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gave this over ninety percent. And that's why I said, you know what,
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I need to go back and watch the shit again because the bit that
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I did see, I was not feeling it. Disrespect is real around here.
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Um, it felt like it. I'm sorry it felt it felt like
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it just but I mean, let's let's let's let's go as point by point.
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You mentioned you thought the costuming and all that was great. Yeah,
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I thought it was second rate. I thought the costume was like the ship
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that got left behind on the other like dunging and dragon type castle type ship
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movies. Like. I felt like it was like, Okay, this is
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all the ship that Game of Thrones did not use, y'all could use this.
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I mean, this is not a Game of Thrones or a Lord of
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the Rings level of production. Like, Lord, you're right, it was
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one hundred fifty million budget. Yeah, Lord of the Rings had, But
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did they have more than that? Probably not Lord of the Rings, not
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Lord of Rings, but Game of Thrones were spending like what Hyde, But
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to tell me one fifty million is not enough? Wait? Wait? Wait
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are you saying? So are you agreeing number one that the costumes wasn't all
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that I'm saying, I'm like what I'm saying, there's nowhere I mean,
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you have to pay Chrispine to Cetter. You gotta remember there's a lot of
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people involved in this. I'm not I'm saying that it's nowhere near on the
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level you're I'm not going into this for the intricacy of a Game of Thrones
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or a Lord of the Rings. You know, Lord of the Rings had
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like a serious legacy to live up to where own. It has to be
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perfect because that stuff is described in the books to a t. So I
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wouldn't, you know, put that on these people? And I wasn't looking
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for that. I think, why don't people have decent costumes? I didn't
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say you have to have like that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying decent.
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I didn't even say they were decent. Yeah, I mean I just
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I disagree at home point. You know, I think I think they were
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like hey, I think they were solid, you know, like for what
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it is, I think they were. I don't think that these were like
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some oh my god, look at those costumes, but like one, I
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mean, they have see I can't even there's one ill trick I can't reveal,
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you know, because I don't really but I mean it's just a color
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changing trick that they do. Yeah, but it was sick, you know.
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I thought that was fire, you know, and like those little little
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touches like that were well done to me. Now, there were some sick
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moments when it came to this special the graphics, like the special effects.
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There were certain moments where I was like, oh, that that's actually a
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really cool idea. And the way it's executed, it's I've actually never seen
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it executed in that way, especially in this type of you know, like
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I can't I don't want to call it Dungeons and Dragons like film, but
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it's dungeons and dragons, but those types of films where you're going through you're
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finding a dragon, or you're fighting dwarves and this, you know, elves
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and all them type of people fantasy, right, Um, I just I
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just saw some things that were a little bit newer than or newer take on
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things that I've seen before in other fantasy type films of this caliber. So
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I was thought that was cool. But at the same time, there were
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times where I thought the special effects looked off. And again, like you
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said, maybe it's what you're saying, like they're not gonna be the Lord
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of the Rings level, but I've it's just like I feel like I shouldn't
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be able to see the flaws like that. Me personally, I saw a
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lot of flaws. Yeah I didn't. I mean I thought like like and
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I also I have to say, I think you didn't see some of the
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like more special effect and intense scenes later on and later on, So like
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I just got all the crap in the beginning and then all the question happened
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after I left. I don't think it was crap though, what you saw,
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you know, Like that's the thing. I like mostly stuff that stuff
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that was cool. But I gotta give a good push back something you said
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earlier, because I don't like especially espect you know, when it comes to
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writing, like the the idea that it was chat GPT or even making that
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joke, because it's like people put time and effort in the ship, whether
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or not it's like insanely great or not. It's like that's that's a problem
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that people compare it to Jeep, you know, the AI, who is
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just you're feeding something in and it's instantly feeding it back. That's what it
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felt like. Like, that's that I'm just saying I felt And I'm not
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gonna take it back like I'm not I'm not standing it from someone's tone who
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wrote this and said you suck. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying
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that. No, this didn't feel like an inspired film. It felt like
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a bunch of fantasy jargon and random shit thrown in there. And that goes
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for me, and and wait but the me, and then I could even
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take it back even further. Remember I said I have no frame of reference.
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Now, perhaps as someone with a good frame of reference, as yourself,
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you have more appreciations, you have more more ways you can look at
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it. For me, I just it just wasn't computing for me, all
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right. Now. See I didn't say this film was inspired. You know,
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I'm not sitting here growing like oh, that's just dragon. One of
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the best films I've seen this year. No, when I say it was
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the worst, I just said I didn't enjoy the bit that I saw,
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Like, easily one of the best films I've seen this year. Has put
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some boots the last wish. It's fucking incredible. You know, it is
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absolutely incredible from beginning to end. It's one of the best animated films I've
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ever seen. It's a fucking incredible movie. And it blew me when I
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could not believe how good it was because I absolutely did not expect any of
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that from that. This is not that. This is a solid movie that
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I feel like, if you're going in, like I said, looking for
24:10
a fast and furious Marvel type film with dudgeons and dragons veneer, it's giving
24:15
you all that in spades. And that's like all I was looking for.
24:18
Now, whether it's like something like it's not anything like, No, it's
24:22
not like something where I'm going to that writer's house, like, yo,
24:23
you did that shit dog, But I'm like, you made some good jokes,
24:27
you know, you had your you know, the storyline was it's expected.
24:32
It's like, it's not. I didn't find it hard to follow at
24:33
all because it's pretty predictable. That's what I mean when I'm like it's it's
24:38
it's predicted from a logic standpoint, like I'm walking out the door now on
24:42
my side type thing, but it's from a for me, from an engagement
24:45
storytelling perspective. I had trouble, right, yeah, like the following I
24:49
mean staying in the story, like being present with them I had. I
24:53
did have trouble. Yeah, it was like comspantly questioning them as they were
24:57
moving on it. I didn't have things like that. I was pretty engaged
25:00
with the story, and I think it gets a little heavy handed in the
25:04
storytelling. But at the same time that's way later though, especially the heavy
25:10
hand in this trump's at the end of the film. It's super every ended
25:12
towards the end where I felt like it didn't need it. But at the
25:15
same time, I think overall it was a story that I liked and I
25:18
liked you know, it's like it's a family story. It's and I like
25:22
that thing. I think it's one of these movies where it's trying to resonate
25:25
with families, especially with parents and with their kids, because it's one of
25:29
those films about a parent and his kid. So I think that's a part
25:33
of it that I really enjoyed. And then as well as like little things
25:37
they did, like there's a scene I won't spoil anything about it, but
25:41
it's a graveyard scene that I just thought that was really dope storytelling. Once
25:45
again, it's also something kind of reminiscent of what Marvel has done in the
25:51
ant Man films with Miguel, but in a different way where I thought it
25:55
was really dope. That's let me finish, finish, I know, but
25:59
let me finish like that's I'm saying. It's like when you have these like
26:02
it doesn't have to be original if it's dope, you know, That's what
26:04
I'm saying. If it's well done, there's nothing original about this movie.
26:07
And I thought it was overall well done. Okay, um, did you
26:12
like the characters designed? Hell? Yes, yes, okay, yes,
26:17
I thought. But they're supposed to look like puppets. Wait what the characters?
26:21
What I said where they looked like which characters? The animal characters?
26:26
The animal half, the animals that stood on two eggs. Those I mean,
26:30
I'm not expecting to look like real animals, you know, I'm not
26:34
either. I mean to listen to what I'm saying. I said, they
26:38
look like puppets, like obvious puppets to me, was that on purpose?
26:42
I'm not sure. I thought they looked like like the half Orc or they
26:48
introduced to the beginning of the film. I think that one or the falcon.
26:52
The falcon thing looked silly. Yes, but I like, he's only
26:56
in it for five seconds. It wasn't something where he's a It's a comedian
27:00
moment too, so I don't think he was supposed to look realistic or even
27:03
close to it realistic. I'm talking about good, just good. Good.
27:07
Series's good. I want to be very clear, I'm not looking for perfection.
27:11
I'm not looking for this to be an original perfect series. I was
27:15
just looking for good. Granted, you just take a lot of what I
27:18
said with grain salt, because I did not see nearly the whole movie,
27:22
but the bit that I saw I had reservations, Yeah, because um yeah
27:32
I didn't. I did not have those reservations. I thought the hot condor
27:36
ego, whatever thing it was, that was one thing. There's uh,
27:40
there's that, and there's just like Dragon Man and I readn't know what the
27:42
fuck they were, because that's beyond my done the dragons from a reference,
27:45
Okay, it just looked weird. I thought there was there's one thing from
27:49
dragon Lands, and I thought they might be, but they're not. This
27:52
wasn't the dragon Lands world, so that knocked it out the window. So
27:56
I didn't know what they were. But it was cool, you know.
27:59
I wasn't like, you know, all, what the fuck was that.
28:00
It was more just like, all right, that was cool scene, right,
28:04
So beyond that, like you can help me through this, like what
28:10
compelled you the most about this film? Like, like besides like you just
28:12
said it was fun, Like was there just something about was it just like
28:15
a popcorn eating pleasing type films? This is, like I said, this
28:19
is fast and furious. This is a average Marvel film. This is an
28:22
ant Man, This is a Guardians of the Galaxy. This is not some
28:27
deep ass. This is beginning of the summer. You know, like the
28:30
summer season has now gone on, you know in Hollywood at least moved all
28:33
the way up until March, so they're rolling out their average summer movies early
28:38
now instead of putting them all in September. And this is so the movie's
28:42
average. I never said more than that. Like I said, it's a
28:47
good a gotcha moment. I'm trying to like really understand where you. I
28:52
think it's a very I think it's a good movie. I don't think it's
28:56
like, Okay, that's saying I'm I think this is one of those movies
28:59
like in the long run, like if you were a kid growing up with
29:00
it, this is a movie you would watch a lot, especially if you
29:03
were in Dudgeons into Dunnets Dragons. I think this is one of those movies
29:07
that like win It's on a Sunday on T and T before the game,
29:10
which is one of my favorite references. I'm not turning it off because I
29:12
know the game is coming on anyway, so why change the channel? You
29:15
know, I'll watch the rest of the Dungeons and Dragons to the game comes
29:18
on. That's the type of movie it is. And then especially there are
29:22
so certain scenes that if I catch I'm like, yeah, let me watch
29:25
that scene because I really enjoyed that, And certain characters like my man Reggae.
29:32
Yeah, my man Bridges and like absolutely steals the show and you missed
29:37
him entirely, and Bridget Yeah, steals the show. Bridgton plays a paladin.
29:41
For those who know the Lord and just the memes around Dudgeons and dragons.
29:47
Paladins are hated because they are lawful good. Their alignment is lawful good.
29:52
Automatically they have to lawful good and they're all the way lawful good.
29:56
They are based on clerics and fighters together, so they believe even God or
30:00
a higher power, and they believe in themselves because of that, and so
30:04
they used to portray the super egotistic and narcissistic and etcetera. And he plays
30:11
it to the hilt. He absolutely kills it. Every time he was on
30:15
screen. I was in love with him. I see why people fused with
30:18
him on Bridgeston so tough. Yeah, yeah, he's got to be in
30:22
Secret Invasion, so that made me look forward to it. He just absolutely
30:26
kills it. Yes, okay, because too much and would have been too
30:30
much? Was there were there anybun Was there something in the film that you
30:36
wanted more of or less of? I could have used more of him just
30:38
because he was great. But I felt like when he stepped off his ed
30:44
sit his soul amazing. It's like, yeah, no, he was.
30:48
He was pretty there perfect. I can't lie, you know, I could.
30:52
Yeah, five ten more minutes maybe, but yeah, overall, no,
30:56
I thought he was perfect. I realized Sophia Lewis um. I've never
31:02
been that bigger fan of Justin Smith, but he was good enough in this
31:06
role. Yeah, and there Him and Sophia's relationship was dope. So I
31:10
liked them on screen as much as I love Fantastic I mean, not fantastic
31:17
fast and Furious. I've never been the biggest Michelle fan, you know what
31:22
I mean. You don't even have to use fast and furious. I'm not
31:25
the biggest Michell fan, but I do like and I know a lot of
31:30
people like her because of what she represents, and so I funk with that,
31:34
you know what I mean. And yeah, I thought she did a
31:37
very good job. She played a Barbarian, and she is a Barbarian to
31:41
the hilt in this role. And I thought the writing was great around her.
31:45
There's some you know, great character moments, like I say, her
31:49
she's involved in a big cameo that I'm not gonna say anything about, but
31:52
it's a great scene with her and this other actor who shows up in the
31:56
film. And I liked her in it. Yeah, Like I think the
32:00
writing around her is what really made me like her, because they really lean
32:05
into the barbarian idea, Like they really lean into these archetypes of dudgeons and
32:09
dragons, like the druid, the barbarian, the barred thief, rogue type
32:15
character that's Chris Pine. The magician who's struggling that's all justice, the paladin
32:23
who's all about himself but also really about everyone at the same time, you
32:29
know, really leans into that well. So I thought all of them were
32:31
very well done. Um I thought Pine specifically. Look, I've grown to
32:38
like Chris Pine as he's gotten older. I feel like he like grew into
32:42
his face or some shit where it's like now I'm feeling him, you know,
32:45
God Like, I mean, I know, the dude's you know,
32:47
amazingly handsome. That's not what I'm talking about that, But okay, look,
32:52
you know he's one of them cats. I promise you if you met
32:54
him a person, you'd be like, Okay, I get why they pay
32:57
you the big bucks. It's like I never understood jew law and then I
33:00
met Ju Long person. I was like, this nigga's you know, stunning
33:04
in verson like it's crazy, you know, like that's why you get millions
33:07
of dollars, and that's why I'm sitting here interviewing you. You know,
33:10
it's a difference like these dudes, it's it's something about him. So I'm
33:14
sure Chris Pine, and like, I know Chris Pine gets love for that,
33:16
right, But as he's gotten older, I think his face and he's
33:21
he's got I don't know, it's just he's got this more weight to him
33:24
as an actor. And so that's why I've enjoyed him in He was in
33:28
this dope series on one of the streamers I can't remember, but I like
33:31
that and I loved him a wonder Woman. He was one of the best
33:36
parts of Wonder Woman to me, and I thought he was really good at
33:37
this Like he portrays the father, That's what I'm saying. He's he's grown
33:40
into that fatherly role and he comes off as someone who's had kids and can
33:45
relate to that and does that well in this movie. Yeah, Okay,
33:51
it wasn't like where I think, you know, he's like the emotional weight
33:55
of the movie, and I'm not one hundred percent where I was like,
33:58
oh, you know, like there's movements even in the like slight Marvel movies
34:02
where all tear up or something, and this one didn't get me to that
34:06
point, you know. And I know it was trying up points and that's
34:08
why I mean with the heavy handedness with his story, I think that was
34:12
my problem. But there was like this, it's it's like they're trying to
34:15
make this reference, and I think they were like they needed to make it,
34:17
so they went a little too heavy ended. But if they didn't,
34:21
I wouldn't even have gotten the reference. So it's one of those damned if
34:23
you do, maybe you need a better reference. May not do that reference.
34:28
And if it's hard to convey. That's the thing though. That's the
34:31
thing with filmmaking. It's like if you don't do it, then you know,
34:36
then what's the point. Like at least attempted like they were attempted to
34:38
do something. It didn't work. I'm not, but they were attempting to
34:44
do something in a movie that would not have that type of stuff in it
34:45
anyway, you know. So that's the thing. It's like I thought that,
34:50
you know, because it was like why is this in the scene,
34:52
And then later on it's like, oh, that's why I was in that
34:53
sense, given them the points where they attempt the execution man I had gone.
34:59
Over all, it might have been a little too heavy handed from my
35:01
taste, But then again, maybe that's what they needed to get the senior
35:05
cross, you know. Like, like I said, there was nothing in
35:07
this movie where I was like, oh, what the fuck? It was
35:08
more like, oh, this movie school. You know. This is not
35:12
like something where I'm like yo, yo, y'all, y'all gotta rush out
35:15
to see this. But like I said, if you're a fan of Dudgeons,
35:16
the Dragons, if you're a fan of you know, the Marvel Fast
35:20
and Furious formula, then you'll enjoy this. Like I said, if you're
35:23
a summer you know, popcorn joints Sunday afternoon with the kids, mattenee,
35:28
if they still got them, you know, definitely worth it. How would
35:30
you say the sound was, like, just in terms of the scoring,
35:34
like do you think like they have the right beats, the right noises at
35:37
this right time, like like sometimes so so not remarkable, okay, because
35:44
sometimes, especially films like this, when they try to make things epic,
35:46
they actually have a really good scoring. I missed if they did. Yeah,
35:51
I don't know, the theme songs to the original of Dungeons the Dragons.
35:54
I don't remember that shit. I'm not wanting them to do to,
35:57
you know, members every theme song from their child. So I don't know,
36:00
and I don't know of any other pieces of music that are related to
36:04
Dungeons the Dragons. Probably been like, oh, you know, they play
36:07
back, but there were enough Easter eggs and well or is it more sol
36:10
references? I mean as far as like a Dungeons and Dragons references and Easter
36:15
eggs and just being in the world of Dungeons and Dragons, there is a
36:20
ton of that, Like there is all kinds of references to different places people
36:25
history. This takes place, I want to say, in the Forgotten Rooms.
36:30
I'm pretty sure about that, because Balter's data is in the Forgotten Rooms,
36:36
and some other ship they mentioned I think is in the Forgotten Rooms.
36:40
Forgoten Rooms is like the main setting of Dungeons the Dragons I think at this
36:44
point it's like there, what's the world of the Lord of the Rings.
36:50
I can't remember the name of their world or whatever, but middle Earth,
36:53
Yeah it's not there. Yeah, Forgotten Rooms like there Middle Earth. So
36:59
I ain't that this takes place in the Forgotten Rooms, but there is a
37:01
massive amount of references to all kind of does the dragons shit, Like there's
37:06
a little shit that I mean, that's what like even from the trailer,
37:09
that's when I was like, Okay, they're really taking this. It's serially
37:12
seriously. And the trailer they have a dragon that flies overhead and it's a
37:15
black dragon and in the world does the dragons black dragons shoot acid or like
37:21
oil, and this dragon flies over shooting that shit on everyone. And I
37:24
was like, oh, let you know what I mean, there we go.
37:29
Yeah, that's the that's the thing that like, that's what mats doudges
37:32
the dragons, not Lord of the Rings and not this one. You know,
37:36
it's like these little things like the color coded dragons. All the evil
37:40
dragons are like the colors like red, black, green, blue, evil
37:46
dragon gotta be black. But the good dragons are the you know, the
37:51
gold that's where we are, you know, the shiners, you know what
37:53
I mean, gold, the platon, the ice. You know. Yeah,
37:58
that's the dragons who are the good ones. I like that. You
38:00
know why the black dragon would be black, the red ones black too,
38:02
I mean evil too, you know, like shit, they all I don't
38:06
know, but you know, the silver, gold, and platinum dragons are
38:08
like the good ones, you know, nig I see class warfare, I
38:15
see warfare. Yeah, there's a and so there was a lot of stuff
38:22
like that. Like I would have preferred, you know, just be a
38:24
dragon Lance world because then I would have been on every damn reference and been
38:29
like, oh oh, But there's just all the stuff that I do love
38:32
like and it was bringing back so much issue from my childhood. And I
38:36
know, there's so many more people who are ended the Dragons now because of
38:38
critical role and how popular that became. And there's been a massive explosion and
38:44
people playing the game now, from kids to adults to everyone. So like
38:47
they I mean Tia Sar, the company to and West whatever the name of
38:52
the company that owns the Blue the hell up, you know, over the
38:54
last few years. So they are raking in the dough. And that's why
38:57
we even have this movie now. So there's going to be people who catch
39:00
all kinds of stuff in this film. There's I mean, there are monsters
39:05
galore, and that's another thing that Dugs and Dragons is known for. Like
39:07
it's very distinct monsters like the displays to beast, the gelatinous cubes, the
39:14
you know, all the different color coded dragons, the orcs, the trolls,
39:17
the mimics. I mean, there's just so many weird, ill things,
39:22
you know, beholders that are mentioned, like on and on and on
39:27
and so there's all this stuff, and there was mad stuff that I saw
39:30
on screen that I had no idea what it was. So there's to be
39:31
a lot of stuff for deep heads, you know, who are way deeper
39:35
than me, who are going to really be into it. So yeah,
39:37
okay, And there's also like the cheesy looking bird man. Yeah, the
39:40
dude, little cheesy. I mean, it wasn't the only diffing, but
39:44
that's besides the point. So you gave a great review, she could gave
39:46
a grave views, and as I said, majority of critics and audience alike
39:52
gave it grave reviews. And it's done very well apparently. That being said,
39:57
are we going to see a sequel with the same people? Number one?
40:00
And I'll ren see sequel And will you be there? Yeah, I've
40:06
been there for a sequel. I wouldn't even need it to be with the
40:07
same people, you know, I think that world of Dudgeons the Dragons is
40:12
thorough enough. And like I said, there's so many other worlds within Dudgeons
40:15
the Dragons, and so many different light campaign settings. I guess you would
40:21
say that have created different worlds. Like dragon Lance and Forgotten Roans both started
40:25
off as people just playing the game to the extent where they developed their own
40:30
whole world and then they were like, this is good enough, and then
40:34
they wrote modules for it, and then it became books and novels and everything
40:37
else. So there's so much already from Dudges the Dragons. It has such
40:43
a rich history already, just like Marvel, just like Lord of the Rings,
40:46
like and a lot of the things in dud Dragons are directly inspired by
40:50
Lord of the Rings obviously, like Lord of Rings is the big brand Daddy
40:52
and these at all. You know, it inspires every one, So everyone
40:57
took from it. But Dungeons Dragons took from it, you know, took
41:00
from this, took from that, and then mix it all together. And
41:04
like I said, doesn't have to be original if it's dope. So I
41:07
grew to learn this language from Dungeons and Dragons, like even when I was
41:09
watching Lord of the Rings a lot of that's so familiar to me because I
41:13
knew it from Dungcheons the Dragons, and not specific Lord of Rachel. I've
41:15
never read a one of Tolkien before I saw those films, Like, I
41:20
knew nothing about it, but I knew Hobbits from General Shiit and Hobbits are
41:23
like half lings, and half lings is what they have and done the dragons,
41:28
so our direct bite of Hobbits obviously, but as a kid, I
41:30
didn't know that. I grew up on halflings and not Hobbits. So it's
41:35
things like that. Are the Kinder which it's fucking names like that that I
41:37
cannot believe. I still remember that's a dragon Lands version of a Hobbit.
41:42
Okay, So they're saying it's projected to make about sixty five million this weekend
41:47
the global start though, sou and that's like that's based on presepts because the
41:52
film doesn't even come out technically until Friday, right, Like they've been having
41:57
screens and people been seeing it, and you know, is that good?
42:00
I mean it they talked, there's talks about it might dethrone John Wick four
42:05
you know, at the number one, but as the number one film not
42:07
in terms of making it. No, yeah, the number one because John
42:12
Wick has been out right, but for one week technically, so maybe as
42:17
far as it's sixty five good. I mean it cost one hundred and fifty
42:20
million to make. Yeah, that's why I mean, see, I look
42:22
all right. This is something those fright because this came up in the YouTube
42:24
comments this week about people being like, yo, well John Wicks breaking all
42:29
the records, so you're just a hater, and I'm just like, look
42:30
fair, I never gave a shit about how much movie costs or how much
42:34
it makes. It never means one second to me because other than Black Pants
42:39
are being the number one, that's all I ever cared about. Because other
42:43
than that, it's like who cares? Because of some of my favorite movies
42:46
never chart, you know, and I never knew how much they cost to
42:51
make either, So I'm always just like, well, that's pool, you
42:53
know, if it makes I would like to be number one, because I
42:55
think John would being number one is super problematic. But that's a whole another
43:00
episode that we're gonna have soon. So yeah, I mean that's that'd be
43:04
nice. That'd be cool. I think observes it. It's a good movie,
43:07
right, nobody's being shot in the face. And you said, as
43:13
far as you know this, well they might. You don't know if there's
43:15
two, but there's definitely one mid credit scene or after credit scene. Credit,
43:19
there's one mid credit scene. And then our screening abruptly ended. Oh
43:23
so like it didn't let you see the rest of the credits, just black,
43:27
They didn't turn the lights on. It was even worse than Eternals.
43:30
Well we weren't even the tweeting wasn't late as far as I knew, So
43:31
why was they abrupt with it? I don't know. I don't know.
43:36
We got no other credits after that. It was like the movie just ended.
43:39
So um, yeah, it was a cool little mid credit scene.
43:43
Like I said, I thought that that graveyard scene was really dope. I
43:47
really even liked the intro. Man, I'm really surprised that you had such
43:51
issues with it because I really like that because I just felt like he was
43:53
talking for mad long and I was just like, I just you don't have
43:57
to. I just don't like the narration, for I don't like long narration
44:01
over a scene, Like it's cool to have the narration here there, or
44:06
if there's that type of film where it's meant to having that raider that jumps
44:09
in cool, But to me, it was just long blocks of text while
44:14
things were happening, and I was like, I don't need to hear Man's
44:16
right now. So and again that was that was just a very an aggregate
44:21
small portion of the film, but it did bother me. Yeah, And
44:23
I'm like, it's interesting because someone on Twitter they brought up something about Shazam,
44:29
right, and they're like, I hate when people do this in movies.
44:30
And it's when Shazam's fighting the dragon and he was like, I just
44:35
punched the dragon, or I just threw a bus dragon. Yes, that's
44:37
good. No, not trying to be like when they explained exactly what they
44:42
just did, like I just do a bus at the dragon. My life
44:45
is great. Right, So we just saw you throw the bus at the
44:46
dragon. Right, we know you did that. And I didn't feel like
44:50
they were doing that in that scene. But if it was that type of
44:52
you know, that could cause the stumford because well, yeah, they didn't
44:54
do that, I'd be like, it didn't feel like he was telling like
44:59
he did it. Then they told as he did it. Like My thing
45:00
is it was his musings about the life in the world, and I was
45:05
over the musings. I was like, all right, fam, we could
45:07
talk about your thoughts later. I'm trying to because again that goes back to
45:10
what I said about I was starting to have trouble like even connecting because this
45:15
Nick is talking about, you know, the facts of life and shit,
45:17
and I'm just like, my guy, I just want to I just want
45:21
to see what's happening right right now. I don't want to hear your voice
45:24
right now. You could come back later, my god, but you know,
45:28
so what I'm going to do is this weekend, or well maybe not
45:30
this weekend because I gotta be somewhere, but I am going to go back
45:34
to the theater and actually see it, so that candy in a regular fucking
45:37
screen or I am act with a regular screen, not that forty shit,
45:40
no, thank you. I'm gonna see it on a regular screen and then
45:45
like from from the beginning to end, and I'll tell you about if there's
45:47
another end credit but or end of criticy. But I do want to give
45:52
it another chance because I'm like everyone in the world. Damn, they're saying,
45:57
Yo, this is fun, this is good, and even going into
45:59
it. I kept I told Ben. I mean when I got there,
46:00
I said, everyone's telling me this is good me too, all right,
46:06
I was, like I said, I was sitting there like we're you know,
46:08
when we were talking about before, because I've heard that and then you
46:12
backing it up maybe like for real, like everybody heard and that what we're
46:15
saying. And I gotta apparently I gotta get with the waves because I messed
46:21
it up, bro. I mean, you know, but it's good to
46:23
have different opinions. And I think like this would be a movie where people
46:27
are could be surprised that I'm so positive on it because people have been following
46:30
me a hater a lot lately, and I'm just because people think you're a
46:34
hater, that's why you're saying that. But I mean it's not a hater,
46:37
no, not at all. And I really, you know, dislike
46:39
being called that because I really just have. And it's even something where I
46:44
don't even like someone's like, oh, you're always mad on Twitter and something,
46:46
I'm like, I don't even bring stuff up on Twitter anymore. Like
46:50
there's so many movies I've never I've seen that I don't even bring up because
46:52
they're just like whatever, you know, but I bringed up things that I
46:55
find problematic and I find and I don't even like the word problematic. Detrimental
47:01
to society is what I was more saying. I find like the fact that
47:05
John Wick is so popular and there's so many people see shooting people as a
47:08
solution to things. I find that very interesting America. And that's and that
47:15
is why I'm like, look, and we're gonna have a very special episode
47:19
dedicated to this very soon with some special guests. But that's something that I'm
47:22
really have an issue with. And this is someone who grew up in the
47:27
eighties on violent action films, but like we distressed before. You know,
47:30
I wouldn't really think about watching Robo Cop anymore because I'm like, damn,
47:35
that's just promoting police shooting people. But that's a whole other episode. And
47:37
so like, as far as this movie, I don't really think it's something
47:40
where it's like they didn't do anything where I was like what the fuck?
47:44
You know, it's like, yeah, they pushing like the you know,
47:47
usual Hollywood agendas of this day of you know, every couple's mixed and all
47:51
that shit, and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's cool whatever,
47:52
you know, I don't mind that. That's fun, you know, Like
47:54
so other than that, it's like it's not doing anything where it's like,
47:59
oh, we really need to think about this film. It's like, no,
48:01
just if you want something to do on a Saturday Sunday afternoon, peep
48:04
this ship. It's you know, it's good. Were there any LGBTQ plus
48:07
characters that you remembered? M aren't even hints like hmm, you know,
48:22
I don't know. I felt like there was going to be and then I
48:25
don't think it really went that way at all. Okay. The fact that
48:30
it's not like a like a quick yes means okay, probably not yeah okay
48:36
on wick hapny or people too busy getting shot in the face. Probably the
48:39
latter. I was curious. I was just curious. My pronouns are blah
48:45
blah. Ain't nobody got time for that, suck hot ones. Your pronouns
48:55
are dead, dead and deader. Um, is this movie gonna be success
49:04
this weekend? Hell? Yeah easily, Yeah, definitely. And it ain't
49:07
got no comp That's the thing. That's That's another thing about like when people
49:10
are like we're bringing on the records I'm like, they released on the weekend.
49:13
We didn't had nothing else because all these studios are supposed to see Yeah,
49:16
it's like nobody. Nobody releases movies up against each other anymore. No
49:21
one does that. It's all a game of Okay, they got to speaking,
49:24
so we'll take this weekend. That's all it is. Yeah, every
49:29
studio knows the other studio can't release every weekend, so they're just like,
49:31
all right, what are you doing. Okay, you got that one.
49:34
All right, I'm gonna get this one. No one is really going like
49:37
fuck that. I'm putting this head to head, you know, Creeds opening
49:39
this weekend up against John Wick. Nope, Creed. It's gonna happen again
49:45
this year. Like in the summer, I feel like there was two movies
49:46
that are releasing, like On the Sand, and then and then they're like
49:49
talking about moving them. I know, because there it's always like yeah,
49:52
because it's always like that up until the end, you know, and then
49:54
they're like, uh, yeah, could lose their job. So there's no
49:58
box office Wars anymore. No them days is done. I think for the
50:01
most part, like the only Wars happened when it's something like an Avatar when
50:06
that hole just won't go away, and then it's like, well, nigga,
50:08
I should just coming out this weekend, so you know, we gonna
50:12
have to see what happens, you know. But that's same. No movies
50:15
even don't go away because they go to streaming. We don't have no movies
50:17
to do it. Five months in a row like it was way back in
50:22
the day. You know, there's never anything like that, even Avatar,
50:24
which you know, the last Avatar ten years ago is what like fot five
50:28
months in a row. Now, it's like it was like a month.
50:30
Three It was like a month three weeks. I don't think it got a
50:35
month at number one? Can I remember the third week? There was something
50:38
car coming against it in theaters now because it isn't created five weeks, because
50:45
it isn't create on the way to being streamed now fot five weeks, Like
50:49
most movies don't make number one from more than a week or two weeks to
50:52
max, So six weeks they're out of the theaters, you know, guarantee,
50:58
Yeah, because it ain't you know, they ain't draw on the money
51:00
no more. Right, Um, But any other thoughts you wanted to share
51:02
about Dungeons and Dragons. Um. No, like I said, I really
51:08
enjoyed. Uh. Like I said, I was not expect to enjoy justice
51:13
like I did. I did enjoy him and Sophia a lot. I really
51:15
liked there chemistry on Spring Together. And I think just Sophia's chemistry in general.
51:20
Um, you know Michelle, Chris, you know them. That's saying
51:23
I know them already, so I know what they bring it to the table.
51:27
These two I didn't really know as much, and I really liked him
51:29
for it. Hugh Grant. I'm always up and down on him, Like
51:32
I hated him when I first saw him in films, and then I started
51:36
liking him in certain joints, and then when he plays an asshole, I
51:38
really liked him, and he's an asshole in this, But I wasn't blown
51:42
away. I don't know. Is he rude in real life? He gives
51:44
me that I'm rude in real life. Yeah, he does, right,
51:45
And I think that's why I didn't fuck with him, especially when he was
51:47
young, because he was like and he was running the dude, be like,
51:51
how do you feel about Chris Parton when they were like, oh my
51:52
god, look, Hugh brand I'm not listening to don't like nothing. What
51:55
do y'all talk about? Like, look at Hugh Grant for what you know
52:02
about just a black apple and I won't do that, you know, but
52:07
all yeah, that was one of the month. I was like, come
52:08
on, be for real, you know, like this man, I'm not
52:12
leading man energy. I'm sorry. No, yeah, I don't get it,
52:15
you know. And that was Hugh Grant, but you know, as
52:17
an asshole. I liked him, and I just figured he needed mo asshole
52:22
in this. I think that was what it was. Really wasn't when he
52:24
was an asshole on this I enjoyed him, But I need a mo of
52:28
that, you know. I needed that. I needed that especially for all
52:30
I needed that turned up to twenty. You know, he was about eight
52:34
seven. Maybe I need that hop I need you chewing every senior in you
52:38
know, I mean just chewing through it, like nah, I need it.
52:40
I need villain, you know, characters to be in a different,
52:44
like whole different ass movie than the movie that you know that he was in
52:47
the rest of the people. I needed to be on another movie, you
52:51
know that turned up ass movie, you know, like and then they're just
52:54
in this movie that's how I need my village, you know, turned the
52:58
fuck up. I, like I said, I am definitely going to take
53:00
the time to watch the film and its entirety in a theater so I could
53:04
get try to when I replicate, God, no, don't want to replicate
53:07
the experience, but just to have a better experience, just from get go
53:13
and then actually say the see the whole thing through and see what all the
53:16
fluss is about. I'm really surprised that it's ninety percent from both critics,
53:22
and it is how you think I felt when I said, Nigga again,
53:27
I saw such such a small percentage of the film in hindsight, but I
53:30
was like, nigga, y'all, I like that shit like that. And
53:31
I was googling and it said ninety. I believe it's like ninety critics ninety
53:37
four percent audience. That's somewhere in that range. That's insane, because I,
53:43
like I said, I was not looking forward to it. The trailers,
53:45
besides the little bits of things where they had the lore so on point,
53:49
I was like, Okay, so they're taking this seriously. But I
53:51
could already feel the marvel faster, the furious vibe from it. And I
53:53
was like, uh, kind of getting sick of the Marvel and even Faster
53:58
and Furious vibes sadly and so but this was like a throwback to the good
54:01
Marvel, fast and furious vibe. So that's what it was. It like
54:04
captured that essence, you know, and it feels like a factory of them
54:07
film. Like I would not deny that, you know, I won't say
54:10
it's like some chat GPT ship, but it's definitely like these niggas are like,
54:14
Okay, this is what made its Marvel and Fast furious hit. We're
54:16
gonna hit all these marks, you know. And they did that, you
54:19
know, and like whether they hit those marks to the level, and also
54:22
if you've seen them in or sick of those marks, you might be like
54:24
that. I wasn't like yeah, I was like, okay, you're doing
54:28
those marks, but it's working. And then there's some of Dudgeons dragon stuff
54:30
on top of it where I'm like, hey, like I just could not
54:34
believe it. I remembered some of this ship while I was watching the film.
54:37
I was like, oh my god, you're a fucking dot you are.
54:39
This is virgin for so long film. Oh definitely, like I mean,
54:47
because I said, like I grew up, Like when I grew up,
54:50
it was role playing games and comic books in the zap same you know,
54:55
like love fervor. I think it's the word, right. So and
55:00
as I grew up, I fell off role playing games, you know,
55:04
like you I moved to RPGs on computers, etc. You know, and
55:07
your friends we move away from each other, so you can't keep it up
55:09
like that. And so it's like I didn't get to always play you know,
55:14
role playing games except for on the computer and stuff. So I was
55:16
still I still kept up on the Lord, especially like with war Hammer,
55:20
and you know, you got me back in the painting recently. So I
55:22
always kept up on the Lord, especially Warhammer, like I'll stay reading you
55:25
know, wiki all night on that for no reason. But with Dungeon Dragons,
55:30
I'm not up on it. I don't read the books like I used
55:32
to. So this was more like it was shocking to me, you know,
55:37
it was like, oh shit, like that's what it was so ill
55:39
to me. It was like damn, our brains are so powerful, right,
55:42
because it was like stuff I had not thought about or remember forever decades,
55:47
like even the tagline honor them. On Thieves, there's an image in
55:52
the original I want to say it's the Dungeon Master's Guide and like they're one
55:55
of the original printings of it. There's this image of a dude's dabbing another
56:00
dude in the back and stealing the gold from him and they're in like a
56:04
room full of treasure and it's like, there's no honor. I'm on Steves
56:07
was the tagline on the month. Believe that, and that image as a
56:10
kid messed me up college because I've never heard that phrase before, and I'm
56:15
like, oh, that's a cold blooded phrase. And you know, he
56:17
got all this treasure around, he's still stabbing the other dude. They ain't
56:21
no honor. I'm on Steves, Like that ship was cold blooded, So
56:24
you know, like in that pop in my head. Yeah, because I
56:29
didn't think about it until we're in the theater and then the tagline shows up
56:31
on the screen. I'm like, oh, that's why it's on I'm on
56:35
Steves because that's from that original printing in Dungeon and Dragon. So it's all
56:38
that little stuff for me that I loved. And then they do some really
56:43
cute stuff, like there's some really cute stuff with the dragon again, with
56:45
the main dragon in film, not the black one. There's another dragon in
56:49
the film that it's not in the trailer at all. And I was like,
56:52
wow, that's that's really fucking hilarious, you know, and something I
56:58
have not seen, you know, and you complain how trailer showed him much
57:01
so no, and like it made me want to go back and watch the
57:04
trailer because they show you the dragon and the trailer, but they don't show
57:07
you what's going on with this dragon of what I'll say, you know,
57:12
they do not show you that, and I was like, oh shit,
57:14
Like how did they do that? Then they just they must have just like
57:17
not shown you all of the dragon because it's you know, it's more to
57:21
it than that. Okay, Yeah, and that sounds really great. Once
57:24
I see it again, I'm we're gonna when we have another episode, we're
57:28
just gonna do an a dendum. Yeah, I can just tell you how
57:30
I feel about it fully, you know, I want to know. I
57:35
want to I really hope like not. I don't want to like have the
57:37
same exact reaction as you, you know, I want to have my own
57:39
opinion, but I do hope it's better than you know seeing it in full.
57:45
And also the things that I saw as like nagging flaws, perhaps that
57:50
just goes away as I continue watching. Yeah, because I think people are
57:52
gonna be really surprised by your reaction to that. I'm sure of it.
57:55
But also from once, I'm not the hater. I'm not a hater.
58:00
But again Green and Saw, I haven't seen the whole thing, so I
58:04
can't give you a full full opinion quite yet. M all right, well,
58:09
I think that is it for our view of Dungeons and Dragons, Honor
58:14
Months, Honor o mon Thieves, which was we didn't shop them out,
58:17
you know, since we kind of dissed and bent them up, let's shop
58:21
out. The writers Jonathan Goldstein, John Goldstein, John Francis Daly, and
58:27
Michael Gillow took all three of y'all and Chris McKay and was also involved on
58:32
the story. It was directed by John Francis Daily and Jonathan Goldstein. So
58:37
shout out to y'all, shot say everybody else involved, Like once again,
58:42
shout out to my ram, Regie and John Age different ways, twenty different
58:49
real ways. At least ain't doing calling you reggae John over here, bro,
58:52
so be happy. But Black Bridgeton, you know black dude from Bridgeton,
58:59
That's wow, that's better. Like one day he's not gonna want to
59:00
be as soon as you be my man from Secret Evasion. So and then
59:06
I you know that's he Yeah, and that I was thinking this made me
59:08
so hype for Seeking Avsion because I'll the yo, dude is dope, and
59:12
I hope they give him Mad Time and Secret of Asion now because there was
59:15
a shot at him. I think he might be a stroll. I'm not
59:16
sure, but there's a shot at him in the trailer where it's like five
59:20
of him sitting in the room at once, and I was like, oh,
59:22
that was fired. And I can't wait to see what this dude does
59:25
now because he rules in his short time in this movie. You know.
59:30
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