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Who Are We: Our Journey into Health and Fitness · In Moderation

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome back to episode 2 of In Moderation, which is back after an extended break.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Because Rob went to another country and got fucked up.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: Rob, you were very curious what happened.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Well, if you want me to tell you about that, first you have to tell me about yourself, Because in this episode we're talking about who we are, how we got here and why we do this.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: That works for me, because my favorite subject is me.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: So, liam, tell us about your beginnings.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, Rob, when I was younger, my parents were very into nutrition and exercise and all that good stuff.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you something else.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I fucking hated it.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: It was awful.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: It was terrible Because all my friends had like the wheat bread or potato bread, all this delicious stuff, you know, soda juices.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with my wheat jar mixed into my plain Greek yogurt and it's terrible, I mean.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: I'm one of the kids you would have hated because I had all the candy in my lunch kit.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: I got something like it wasn't awful.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Listen, I got some stuff, but for the most part I was like man, how come all my friends count this delicious food and I'm sitting here with just brand flakes in a cup anyway?
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: So my mom was very interested into nutrition and that's what sort of got me interested into it, and I've always been interested in the medical field.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: I started off in nursing school.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: I eventually got into nursing school.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: The school was terrible, and what I say terrible I mean about as terrible as it can get.
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: I mean talking about new chair, coming in looking at the old semester and saying, wow, it was so bad.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: We're just going to give you a test and if you pass this test you pass the whole semester because it's that bad.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: So it was for profit, not accredited.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I was already in it sucks, left there with nothing but a bunch of student debt and sadness.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: So then I moved on to a different school that the only medical program they had that wasn't filled up for years with sleep medicine.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, that sounds good, I'll do that.
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: Even stillers, wait, you'll knock people out with a rubber mallet.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: Oh kids, you know, just give me anything.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: I was like literally medical field, Just give me, what do you got?
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: So I just ended up in that and after I graduated I knew I didn't want to live in New York.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: Like I was being upstate New York.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: There was so much Crime and just I've been robbed, pistol whipped, all sorts of things were not great.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: A bunch of not great things, terrible.
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: So then I basically applied every place in the country that was looking for sleep tech.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: I mean not some places, because who wants to move from North Dakota?
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: It's not even the best Dakota, let alone the best state.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: So I eventually ended up getting a job offer in Columbus, which I was like Ohio, that sounds terrible.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: And people were like, actually Columbus is pretty nice.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, ok, let me go see.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: So I drove all the way down here, checked it out.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is actually really nice.
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: So I met with people, I took a small position there for a couple of years and then got a job offer at Ohio State which I took immediately because of their tuition assistance program.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: So I could.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: They would pay for me to go back to school and even then I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to do.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: But just working in the medical field.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: You just see how many people are dealing with chronic illnesses.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: I think chronic illnesses I'm not sure the exact number make up like 70% of all the issues we deal with, and a lot of those in America at least, a lot of those can be prevented, treated, at least through just balanced diet, exercise, all that good stuff.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: So I was like, well, what can I get into?
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: And I saw they had the dietetics program here, so I applied for that and eventually got in and I'm finally now starting to.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: I'm really getting into the classes and everything.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: It's been really enjoyable, but I think that's enough of me.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: So why don't we move back over to your side, rob?
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: I think we got to start with the big stuff.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: It is just kind of the elephant in the room.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so crunchy or creamy peanut butter Crunchy.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: Crunchy, it's got to be crunchy All the way, absolutely.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, toilet paper over or under no-transcript.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Anybody that's under is a sadist.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: I completely agree.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: Alright, I think that about wraps it up.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Should we just do the closing outro?
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: There we go, outro and we're done.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: Have a good night everybody.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Episode over.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, but no seriously, though, How'd you get interested in nutrition?
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: So, like I mentioned, I was the kid that got to go to school with all the candy.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: I hated it and we probably wouldn't have been friends in school.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: But seriously, my lunch kit was what people would consider the unhealthiest thing ever.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: It was mostly candy, but I actually grew up like very underweight.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: Because, I was highly active.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of activities.
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of sports.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: I was active in the scouting movement.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: I spent like a third of my childhood camping, so even though that's why your parents try to give you so much candy Is to put weight on.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: You Like, give this kid all the Milky.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Ways or whatever you have in Canada.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have Milky Ways, you probably got something else weird.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we have Milky Ways.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: Good, I like that.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: Good candy bar.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: But Mr Biggs are the best.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: That's a Canadian candy bar and they are giant candy bars.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: So one person almost has everything in them.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: It's like oh, I know that I have that as a kid.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Hello, one Canadian that's listening to this.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, mr Biggs, all dressed.
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: We got the good stuff.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: So I was eating lots of candy but being highly active, so I didn't develop.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't develop any weight problems, obviously being underweight.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I've developed weight problems in the wrong direction, You're right, or in the other direction, and I also like this is my personal anecdote.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: This is just an anecdote, but my personal anecdote about how candy in and of itself won't cause diabetes, Because I ate way more candy than anybody else in my class.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe all the Mr Biggs.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: I ate all the Mr Biggs and it was, like some of the other kids that weren't quite as active as me, even though they had like super healthy lunches, that developed diabetes, unfortunately.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: But um yeah, I spent a lot of my youth trying to actually put on some weight.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: I did try to exercise a bit and try to put some muscle on, but I was never really taught how to do it.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I never was taught the value of protein.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you just get the muscle magazines and you look at it and you're like I want to look like this to it.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: And he's just holding up a giant tub of protein powder and you're like that's how he did it.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't all the things he stuck in his butt.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, getting into um, getting into my 20s, I started developing health problems from being underweight and not having enough muscle mass, and that's when I really started to get into fitness and actually started reading about it more.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: And that's when I started to fall prey to all the supplement scams of course yeah.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, we all fall prey to those.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: Don't feel bad about it.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, it happens.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: but Do you think it's better or worse now, like with social media?
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's around more, but there's also more information.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: Kind of back in your day was like you get a magazine and you just see this and you're like, oh yeah, that's what I totally need.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: I got this.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's the better opportunity to be educated about it Right, definitely Like the actual pushing of the supplements is just as bad, but there's the better opportunity that somebody is going to see proper education about it.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: It's even worse now, like the pushing, because it's just everywhere on social media.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: But at least now you have people kind of combating it and trying to get that out there.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: So hopefully if you fall into it, you only fall into it for like a few weeks and months, yeah, exactly.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Like some people will say oh well, I wasted a year buying this one thing and I'm thinking like I wasted like three years or four years buying that thing, so don't feel bad.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get sucked in like back then you were just in it, like it took like a buddy being like hey bro, that's not a great idea, you just have to wait for that and like, from there it just grew and I started to read more and more and research more and more and unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity to do post-secondary.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: I also grew up with mental health issues.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: I had severe social anxiety disorder which made it hard for me to even go outside my house.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Lots of depression, just really bad mental health.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I also not the most well-off family and as I was getting into my 20s my mom developed cancer, my dad developed degenerative disorder.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: So just a lot of things going on and while I didn't get to do post-secondary, I did end up getting to learn a lot through experience and real, real world experience and befriending a lot of people in the various professions, getting to talk to lots of people, which I think, honestly, if I had to do it over again, I would still do it the same way, because I end up learning better that way.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: That's the way that works for me for learning.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: And I do want to translate for Americans post-secondary.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: That's like college university, so I don't.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: We've got a little different setup over here.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, you guys don't call it post-secondary.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: I have never heard that in my entire life.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Oh well then, yes, college, university, whatever After high school that's post-secondary.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: Secondary is high school post-secondary.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of dumb people listening to this podcast, like me.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: They're like I don't know what that is, so I cleared up for them.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the conventional learning never really worked well for me.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: I was the kid that slept in class.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone hated me and it wasn't a secret, the teachers knew it and they were like it's all that candy's been eaten at lunch.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: It's all that candy.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: I've been eating yet In grade 11, in Math 20 pure, which I don't know what you guys call Math 20 pure.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: I was actually napping on my desk one day and the kid beside me the teacher's in the middle of lecturing something to do with fractions, of course, and the kid beside me, literally in the middle of class, just yells out teacher teacher Rob's sleeping.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: The teacher turns around, looks at him and just goes.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: You start getting 97% on your tests and you can sleep in class too.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: And then just turns around and goes back to teaching.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: That's a good teacher, right there.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: That's a teacher that knows what's up.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: That's an awesome teacher.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: And then he got fired the next day.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: I was a little worried I was going to get beat up by everyone after that.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Oh man, but yeah, the learning in the field always worked a lot better for me and I got a lot of opportunities to work with a lot of people and I really enjoyed it.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Well, you definitely learn more what you're actually interested in, whereas with college or university, I mean, I'll tell you, there's just so many times I'm sitting there like why am I learning about this?
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: It's cool, but this has zero to do with what I am.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: In college, I've taken everything from Roman art and architecture to various math classes, all sorts of things that have nothing to do with nutrition, but that's just part of the curriculum and that's just what I have to take, you do get a better general education and when you're in the field, you get the chance to be more specific with what you're doing and, of course, different educations work for different people Absolutely.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: But that's one of the biggest questions I get is like what?
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Do I have a doctorate or whatever?
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: And it's like no, I never got the opportunity to post secondary.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: I do my best with what I was given and I took the opportunities everywhere I could to learn what I can.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we are in the 21st century now.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, for most people you have the ability to learn about whatever you're pretty much interested in.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: The information is out there.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: That's what's amazing about it.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: As long as you can get away from your cat videos and all sorts of whatever.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: We're watching the daily dose of internet.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Any fans out there.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: I watch that all the time.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: You do have an opportunity to learn about whatever you're interested in.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, everybody else was busy.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: All of my other friends were busy with cat videos.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: I was busy talking to various professionals and they were feeling a little bit better than doing research and stuff.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's it Pretty much.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: How I got into fitness was just gradually getting more and more deeper into it and it becoming more and more like.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I really liked the, the feeling of getting healthier, obviously.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you do personal training now right, so obviously at some point you decide to get like, certified in personal training.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: So you decided, yeah, something with that, yeah, In my getting into my early 30s, I was getting tired of doing the various work that I was already doing Lots of handy work, leather work, manual crafts and I still love doing that as a hobby, but it's one of those things that I shouldn't have done as work.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: It was not.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: It was it's fun as a hobby, not something I enjoyed as work and I was like I'm really enjoying this, helping people be healthier.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed like getting myself healthier.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I enjoy learning all this stuff about exercise, science, nutrition, all this.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Why am I not making this my profession?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: 100% agree.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I would sit there like doing other whatever and stuff I was taking classes for.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I would just sit there and watch like videos on nutrition, just like you know all sorts of you know, just I was like what I want to, because when you go like I'm telling you, when you go to, like you go to college, there's so many times where you just sit there and think like how does this apply to me?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Right, like, how does how does this apply to me?
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And when it's like nutrition for me, it's like a one to one, like right there, you know like this, this, this incredibly important, and that's what always drove me towards it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: But then you've been doing personal training pretty much since then.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Yep, since then I've been doing personal training and I've been considering going back and getting like a degree in nutrition or something at some point.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I don't feel necessary.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like like a lot of people just use their degree to show off.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Right, of course, as long as you learn properly or you're doing yeah, no kidding, sorry, that's a cough there for a second.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, I completely understand that was a very important cough to get out.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the as long as you're taking the time to learn, to keep yourself open to the experiences and everything.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to ask yourself, like, if you got the degree, would that add anything to your life?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like that would add anything to my life.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's just me having something on the website so that people are like, oh, he has a degree, because people have that reaction to it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't feel like it's important for me to go to it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I might go to it at some point, but at the same time I don't really want to go into debt.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: That's why I literally why I took the position and I work for Ohio State University.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: They might I pay like $100 a semester, like it's not much, and Michael's always been to work with people one on one and work with their nutrition.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So I felt like I that's something I really wanted.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: It's gonna take me a while and I'm only doing a part time, but I'll get there eventually.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And like, at this point, having grown into social media and stuff, I've gotten the awesome opportunities to learn from a lot of professionals in their field.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: At this point, gotten to befriend a lot of people.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you have to.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, definitely On that note.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: How did you get into social media?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Man, I will tell you, social media is a place.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: It is a straight up place, like, like we were just talking about.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: There's just so much information out there and you know like when I started, I was like, okay, I just want to make some simple little videos on, like, how do you healthier and here's some things that you might want to do, and and then I, you know, started making a little bit of a following and then people just started tagging me in videos that I was like what is this?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Like this is just so extreme, so in at next level, out of the stratosphere, bonkers crazy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And so it really just started off where I was just like, okay, I'll make a little video.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: They're like, hey, this is not actually right, like you don't really need to worry about this, and there's just so much animosity and and everyone's just angry over everything.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It's almost like food is a religion to people Like, like you become keto, like you are within the keto stratosphere like you are within the keto like cult almost, and anytime anyone says something about your diet, you're almost saying something about them as well, like even if it becomes personal becomes so personal and so a lot of my content honestly just like switch to.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: We need to bring it down so many notches I don't know how many notches, we'll figure it out later but this needs to, just like we need to relax.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yes On just on how personal people take this.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You know, like for me, like I doing, like the keto diet, like that's just one of the biggest ones right now, so I'm talking about that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: But like it makes me want to crawl, crawl into a hole and die Like I hate.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I hate it so much I there's nothing about it I like and I hate everything about it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But for other people they love it and that's what works for them.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So you know, I say hey, you know, go right ahead.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah my goodness, like if I just say like, hey, you know, carbs aren't that terrible, then I just get so much.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I just I got.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Basically I got a lot of hate for saying do what works for you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: That I was like, well, I'm just going to lean into this and people hate me, that's totally fine.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm just going to be sarcastic, be my fucking sarcastic self, enjoy my time and just see how it goes.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And you know what the response was?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly it was good and positive.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So you know and well, I mean, how dare you tell people to do things that work for them instead of giving them a cut and drag template that they have to follow?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like everybody all the time is just like what foods do you have to cut out?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: What foods am I not allowed to have?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like Holy shit, we are starting off on such a bad foot Like we.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That is not the way to do it at all.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And I we've got a such bad black and white mentality towards it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I never, I never in a chilean billion years, thought I would be like defending Cheetos and Oreos and shit when I started this Like and all I'm saying is like hey, they are food.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And people like no, they're not food, they're garbage, toxic, toxic, poisons, god.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And I was like no, like, no, like, no, you don't want to eat a lot of them, but you know, it's totally fine and yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean that's just kind of how it all just came together Like not how I expected it at all.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Like if we define food, food is something that provides you with some sort of sustenance that you need Calories carbide calories are one of those things.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Holy shit, like it is what you, I, oh, it just drove me so great.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure when you started off you must have been like oh yeah, I'll do some videos on like, teach people, exercise, you know a little bit more and you know these things.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And then what was your experience like?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Did you just see like all at once, just the craziness?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Or they did just get worse and worse as time went on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It because I started off a lot more towards making more exercise and physio related videos, and that was that was an intense experience for me.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I first started on Tik Tok.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I just put a video up just kind of as an experiment for myself to try and push myself, because I was still suffering quite a bit with the, with the social anxiety disorder.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Trying to push yourself outside the comfort zone?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to push myself outside the comfort zone.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to put up a show media video and after like just a couple of videos, all of a sudden it just absolutely took off on me.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember what half the videos are about.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: It's so but, I, got like 200,000 followers in just a couple months.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah to the point where I, like with the all the the rage people Combined with the sheer growth, I'd ended up just shutting me down.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: It was too much at once.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I actually had to take a year off.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: That's, yeah, it's, and it's so funny because that is the exact opposite experience I had where, like well, I started off with like silly gymskit videos because like I'm a loser and a weirdo and so I like just making like stupid videos, like playing different characters and shit.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Like I just I like doing that sort of stuff, and then I was like, okay, let me make some nutrition content.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And it really took a while like it took months and months and then eventually, once I hit like 50,000 followers or something like that, then it started growing exponentially after that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But, like I could definitely see how you getting a lot of success all at once.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's like childhood stars.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You know how they always turn out well put together and no problems whatsoever.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And they're like perfect when they get older, right like it just destroys, like right off the bat.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: It's just like all that, just oh yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the amount of like, not so much like the stupidity of the like, the toxin people and stuff like that, but just the the stupidity in the comments and the rage and so it was this over kind of exercise thing, because you were doing exercise like videos like how Next were people just like arguing over like little things about?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the little things about like what's optimal and.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That's what I figured.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it was just crazy to me that people would get this intense over it to the point like.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: They're like insulting people and aggressive towards people.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, exercise is another one of those things where, like you just get you know again, it just becomes personal.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You find something that we're all like, that, we find something that works for us and then we think you know it'll work for everyone and yeah, that that it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Like I said, that experience shut me down, but it also gave me the skills I needed to learn how to deal with that as well, because it was by all means.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: By all means that's a negative experience, but one of the biggest things.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: People ask me how I deal with my social anxiety disorder, because a lot of people do have it right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and I was.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not kidding what I say in my teenage years Like I was completely afraid to even leave my room, nevermind make a post on social media and now I'm posting every day and one of the reasons that I'm able to overcome that is because I take those things and I learn from them.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I don't let them hold me down like, yes, it was a negative experience, but I had to take that and I had to try and learn from it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I had to try to Disassociate myself from the hateful people.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, those are people that I didn't want in my life in the first place, they don't matter to me Absolutely just ignore them.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: One of the best things, the best piece of advice I've ever heard is don't take criticisms criticisms from someone you wouldn't take advice from, and I've always really liked that a lot.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I like that a lot too.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because like who are you, what why?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: do I care about you, whatever I mean.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And the nice thing about the best thing about social media you just go Block and goodbye forever and you just move on with your life.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: That's what's awesome, but that's like the best thing about it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And really you do learn like you learn.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Like they always say, you learn more from your failures Than you do your successes.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Like I can imagine if you just like you know like you you came on social media.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You know like if you you came on social media, you started making videos and just everything was all positive.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't like you just don't learn as much from that right.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And speaking of learning from our failures, I think it's time to plug in last week's Person that sent in an email.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, about their failures.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I like it, I want to.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I hope it's a terrible failure that we can all learn from.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: All right, that sounds good to me.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Well, for anyone who's here who has no idea what we're about to talk about, uh, last time we did this podcast, which was I don't know several weeks ago, we found we.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, you are sorry so.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Sorry the Canadian, sorry the Canadian Sorry.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Um, we were talking about our failures and all the things that we've learned from, which is a good segue into this, so we asked you to send in one of your failures and what you learned from it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So hopefully we can all we can read from it, rob and I and we can everyone who's listening can learn from it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Haylin writes and I hope I'm saying that right, haylin, probably guys, I probably not no that's, that's the luck right?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, I just wanted to say how excited I am for this podcast.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: This summer, I recently started eating healthier and working out more.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Both of you have helped so much with this change in my life.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: When I first started, I was obsessed with checking labels and ingredients, to the point where I just wouldn't eat anything.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted Ben there.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think we all have at some point.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's your right of passage to come into the nature space.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: First you have to freak out, and then you have to calm down, and then you have to get to figure it out.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: And you also have to buy a bunch of supplements Necessary.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Find out, they do nothing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Then I heard about Liam's 80 20 rule and that completely changed how I looked at food.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: There we go 80 20.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: If anybody doesn't know what that everybody's new to this 80% milling processed food, 20%.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Whatever the fuck you want, even if it's not approved, go watch episode one if you haven't.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you, haylin for writing in well, I think the main thing we can learn from haylin is that it is always best to start off Small if you can, because you can.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You can always add from there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You have your entire life.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So start off with one thing and you can add to, because if you start off with everything and then slowly take things away, you are going to be miserable that entire time.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: So always as I say, add you don't have to subtract.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And another thing is, don't ever feel like you're the only person that's ever been obsessed with food or ingredients or anything like that, because a lot of us have been there.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It's something we, that we go through and we have to learn from and we can, we can learn from it, and that's what haylin is showing here.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, going back to social media, so I hit, like you know, 200,000 followers and it was just too much.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I took like a year off to recover from that and then when I came back, um, I did another jump from like 200,000 to 500,000 within the span of a couple months again.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But this time at least I was, I was more mentally ready for it and I was able to actually Deal with haters and stuff more constructively, either by ignoring them or I learned to, you know, be able to phrase things that just kind of shut them down rather than feed them, and so from there, I just was able to, I've been able to continue to grow and I'm and again, I've gotten to meet a lot of awesome people, like Liam here.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So well, is that one useful for the experience?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You switched because, I mean, obviously you started off with more like fitness stuff, but then you started yes, I mean I've seen you do everything from like nutrition to talking about.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You know what's it?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Tom mcdonald, whatever his name is, yes, you know, just talking about like gender roles and stuff.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And like the big cause of the switch was actually the fact that I used to be able to To film around equipment Either at my local gym or in my basement and then I was less able to film in my basement and the gym started surprisingly getting like super busy so I could not set up film equipment at all.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And so I kind of like, drifted away from that and I started talking about nutrition more and A lot of people were interested about nutrition.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: People started tagging me in all sorts of things.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: People started asking questions and then additionally, like For the like, the tom mcdonald stuff and all that stuff.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I I like to talk about health in general.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Right, that's physical fitness, nutritional health, as well as mental health.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Because, again like I've suffered a lot with mental health so I find mental health to be important.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So when things like that come up, when things like Toxic masculinity come up, it's a big deal for me.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It doesn't come up much in my feed.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Not many people tag me in that stuff and I try not to watch that kind of stuff, so it's not in my feed much, but when it does, it's kind of like I need to say something about that I mean, I definitely understand that when I, you know, I mostly get tagged in nutrition things and I'm telling you I can't do like all Like deep onking videos or like this sort of.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I need to do some videos that are just like positive, so that because, whatever you do, you're going to get tagged in more right?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I have found like I need to do some positive videos.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So at least every 20 tags, I have one person that's like hey, this video is actually nice, and I'm like, thank you, thank you for tagging me in something that I actually enjoy and other people could hear this is very nice.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So if you listen to this podcast, tag me.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It's more good things.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of just nothing but Bobby Paris.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: It is a pleasure when you open the the tags and you find something that's like oh, that was so refreshing to see.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, yeah, seriously Like I don't get me wrong.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I love people tagging me and all the other stuff giving me content to uh, to critique and whatever.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But it's just a nice feeling when you open something up and you're just like, oh, that felt so good to watch.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: This is actually good advice, oh my god, and that's that's how I met some of the people that I'm now mutuals with is from people Tagging me in good things and me commenting and be like, hey, this was awesome.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, strike up the conversation with them.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And I guess that kind of leads into how we met which boy.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I think that was a while ago, I don't remember exactly what video.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I do remember the one Bobby parish video where he's talking about canned food.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Remember the canned food?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: One, that video kind of like a good one yeah remember that one, and oh, maybe it was the salmon one.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It might have been, you know what it might have been.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That's that salmon.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: One was pretty big, so yeah that one kind of blew up, um, so yeah, it might have been that one.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I think I was just like commenting on some of your videos and then, eventually, you used one of my videos to talk about like alcohol, I think like a while back, where I was talking about how alcohol is a poison, um, and I don't know what.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what your video was on that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: But you were talking about alcohol and then you used a clip of mine for that.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that's me, yeah, yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I remember the video.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what I was talking about either, but I do remember the video.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I remember the clip that I was using.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: It was you, yeah, talking about the um how the the liver.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It was a toxin for the liver.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so it gets.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Basically alcohol gets inverted from a poison to a worse poison, essentially.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I mean I remember that and then I think we just started talking.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I think shortly after that you started doing maybe like the wednesday night streams.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I think after that, and then it wasn't too long after that, because I started doing those in December last year right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: So then I think I hopped into those and then I think that's yeah from there, pretty much just like doing some collabs here and there, stuff like that.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And now we have a podcast and yeah, we got to podcast, we got we're gonna have all the things.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Next is a board game.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, In moderation the board game board game yeah, survive the crazies.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: You pick up a card and it's just a long ingredients list.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Do you want to read through this, or you just want to eat it?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Eat it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: That is the correct answer.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Keep moving.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You drew a bobby parish card list five ingredients that you can't pronounce.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Are they all inflammatory?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, then keep on moving.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Everything's inflammatory.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Does he make money from it?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Well, that's Well.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: We'll workshop the board game idea.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: We'll come.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: So, speaking of for the money, obviously we've seen that Liam does not have any sponsors at all.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Liam, why do you do this.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Well, funny, you should say that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: So unicity just called me and no, I mean it's, it's I never, I just there's so much out.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: There was really just kind of the classic create the problem, sell the solution, and I just wanted to bring a little bit of Sandy to it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And it's just been so enjoyable just talking with people and them telling me I've just calmed things down for them.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: They're more relaxed, they don't freak out about a food They've.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe they've lost a few pounds, maybe they haven't, whatever, I just did like a little video the other day of somebody who just like Stitched me and said that like he's feeling better, he's losing a little bit weight, and so I just did.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I did a video again talking with his video and Just tried to like encourage him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And it was so nice, like the followers I have.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I just it's so enjoyable for me to be able to say like, hey, this person you know they're, they're trying their hardest, give them some encouragement.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: And then you see everyone just rush over there and Just like, hey, you got this, you can do this.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And I think his name is Earl, cousin Earl.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he, he started just today started day one and he's like I'm going out for a 15 minute walk and then I'm gonna work with these weights they're all rusty but I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And he's like I'm gonna make a video every day like just tracking my and you know, to see that like kind of like real difference to me is a lot more important than money from Selling some ancient root that was found in the depths of the Amazon.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Germany.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: German.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Sure that old, that German book that's got all the secrets in it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: You know, germans have all the secrets, didn't you know that?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: yeah, and what that book told us was what you need is ground up Bull testicles.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: The supplements is basically what you need.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: And so more than any other at stuff like hey, if that's people's Motivation, all the power to them.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: That's cool, but just being able to hear from people and seeing that you've actually made a change in their life for the better it's what he does is for me, is everything.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely I.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It is so stressful sometimes going through social media and Making sure you're posting and all this stuff, especially when trying to like I am trying to make a livelihood out of it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I do training and everything, but it is like the greatest feeling when somebody comments or messages you that, like you, help them get over their eating disorder.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: They have a better relationship with food.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: They've lost weight because of your advice and it's just like that keeps you going.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's the best when they're just like.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize how simple it was until I talked to you.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I thought there was a ton of rules.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: They're like, nope, that's all bullshit To get you to buy something.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: It's actually pretty simple like I wish I got to respond to more people and like just as an announcement, I guess there's something like I try to read as many comments and stuff as I can.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I don't have the time to sit there and respond to all of them, but I have.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I do try to read like every single thing and like I I love hearing about all that stuff.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's definitely what keeps me going.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: There's some days where I'm like I just want to quit social media and then I read some of the stories from everybody and it's just like this is why I do it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also kind of like that assorted box of chocolates you know.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I hope this person was weight.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a fuckface.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: This person has been a relationship with food, so you never know what chocolate you're gonna get filled with toothpaste.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh no, I need to get a few more of these chocolates to feel I think thankfully I've grown past that point, but I do remember being at that point where you know you were.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: You were careful about what messages you opened up, not to jinx myself.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Knock on wood.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Goodness, now, yeah, now you get all the haters.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here come all the haters.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Even in terms of money.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I of course have a couple sponsors which I completely like.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I vet the crap out of things like there's one point where I had a sponsor that it was brought to my attention that they were doing some Suspicious things and I just like.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: No, that's it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I dropped them completely.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why I don't have much for sponsors, and then I can't believe you dropped subway so fast?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: No, not subway, not the whole Jared thing, not the whole Jared thing, okay.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a guess I won't bother, like saying anything just for.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Like naming the company for just just just in case I don't want legal trouble, but like what it comes to, like I have, like my books and my training app and stuff.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Even with those I Keep trying to drop the price as much as I can, so they can write and more accessible Rather than try to make money off them.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: As long as I'm able to sustain what I'm, you know, basic living standards, I Want to make that content as accessible as it can be absolutely.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Because you want to help as many people as you can, and so like, yeah, like yes, I have to, I want to make a living from this, but yeah, I mean, like I totally get it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: The only like I actually the only the only one I've thought of recently that I've been like you know, I would take that as a sponsor is this company that sells t-shirts, because, my god, half of my comments are just where did you get that shirt?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I've noticed that, yeah holy, you may as well take this t-shirt sponsorship and literally like there's this company ripped apparel.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They just make like a two, they take two geeky things and they smash them together in a t-shirt and that's all it is.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm like I've always bought their t-shirts, I just enjoy them every day.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: There's three new t-shirts and it's like 14 bucks.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's cool, I'll buy that.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And so I'm like, man, I just need a link or whatever.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Even if I don't make any money off, I don't even care if I make money off it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe they send me free t-shirts.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: They send me free t-shirts.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And Then I will say like, here's a little link, go buy these t-shirts, because I just need something to send to people.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Because, oh my god, I just get asked like 50 times a day.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with a sponsorship like that it's a t-shirt.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It's like you know what you're getting.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: So now that we spent three hours or whatever, it was talking about Everything else, I think we should have talked about the actual elephant in the room and how the hell did you end up in a hospital in the Philippines?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: No, you actually remembered.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to make you talk about all this other stuff so that you wouldn't remember and I wouldn't have to go over everything.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: People would be very upset if we just ended the podcast and didn't.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I guess they would be.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, those of you who missed it, I recently went on holiday to the Philippines and towards the end of my stay I Unfortunately ended up in hospital.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I was unable to walk, I was in so much pain and it was several dislocated or herniated spinal discs, and there wasn't one specific Incident that caused it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: It was the result of a lot of things and it actually dates back to February this year when my dad was in the hospital and I had to.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I was sitting in like really bad hospital chairs for a while.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I had to drive a lot, I Was working and so I didn't really get a chance to take care of myself and my back started to get the same ache.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It was nowhere near as bad, but it was like starting to herniate and I didn't take care of myself properly at that point and it did go away.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It didn't go as bad and it went away.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So I didn't think much of it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Flash forward to my vacation and I guess, after the 24 hours of, you know, flying and airports and and then just, I'm not a person that sits around on vacation, I need to go out and do things.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So I just kept being active and pushing myself and everything and it just all caught up to me, and I don't think the the wiping out repeatedly while surfing helped, for that's for sure, if you have any sort of back injury in the past, probably shouldn't wipe out 20 times in a row while surfing.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: We were talking about learning from our failures.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: What did we learn?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: We learned that I can't surf.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: And that I should not continue to try hundreds of times until I end up in the hospital.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Like a day or so after the surfing, just in the middle of the night, I just woke up and I was just in immense pain and I couldn't even be like assisted to a vehicle.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: We actually had to call in the ambulance and I had to take a stretcher to the hospital and and Spent a couple of nights in the ER before I was admitted into the actual hospital itself.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I, I know I talked to the doctor and I basically said look, I have to get a flight back to Canada in three days, and what can we do?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And the doctor was like okay, we're gonna admit you to the hospital, we're gonna give you a bunch of painkillers in the meantime and then we're gonna just load you up with as much as we can to get you on that flight and get you home.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And so that's what they did.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: They gave me a referral to the anesthesiologist who gave me I don't even remember how many meds I was on, but I was able to get on the flight, get back to Canada, and I've been recovering since.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, I'm able to actually walk and sit again.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But that is why this podcast has been so delayed is I literally couldn't even sit at my computer to record this with Liam.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Usually, when people go to other countries to take a bunch of drugs, it's for different reasons.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Well, learning from my mistakes, but I do want to say a huge thank you to everybody that was concerned and Checked in on how I was doing and everything and and, thankfully, recovering.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like I'm gonna need any surgery or anything.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And Still not a hundred percent, still on painkillers, still kind of out of it, still kind of loopy Liam, seen that a couple times while I've been recording here.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I keep having to stop and go.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And that's why I had to do more Bobby videos while Rob was gone.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I had to carry the slack.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, liam.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry there was so much stuff you missed.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But that is how my vacation went.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Do not recommend getting hospitalized in another country.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Please avoid it if you can.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna try.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's, I think it's like it's all legit.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I think I get self.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: You need to try that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Experience one just once you Learn from your mistakes, so I will go and make this mistake that at least do it, you know somewhere where it's not a 12-hour flight.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, overseas, hide this.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: That was, that was so bad, rough.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: So I hope everybody enjoyed this little insight into us.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And I certainly did because, again, love talking about myself and you want to hear me talk about me more just.