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- 0:01Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September fourteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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- 0:28Speaker 2: Welcome in.
- 0:29Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is week two. It's Thursday.
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- 0:35Speaker 3: We've got a lot happening the next two hours here
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- 0:45Speaker 3: worth saving. Chiefs Jaguars. In week two, we'll go through
- 0:50Speaker 3: the defense of Patrick Mahomes and the weapons around him. Well,
- 0:56Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence has some weapons around him on offense. Do
- 1:00Speaker 3: they plan to attack the Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe we'll
- 1:03Speaker 3: hear from the head coach about that. Doug Peterson will
- 1:06Speaker 3: join us at five o'clock for the Doug Peterson Show
- 1:09Speaker 3: in studio with us here at the middle of Electric Center.
- 1:13Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're on Tenton XL ninety two
- 1:16Speaker 3: point five FM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube all
- 1:21Speaker 3: the places. Jeff Logoman, Good afternoon, Good.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Afternoon, JP. Big game this week. Well it's the big
- 1:27Speaker 2: game because it's the next game. Oh no, it's not. No,
- 1:31Speaker 2: it's not. However, it's a really big next game. It's
- 1:35Speaker 2: as big as they come. Look it's the Super Bowl champs. Man,
- 1:38Speaker 2: they're coming to your house. Last year you had to
- 1:40Speaker 2: go to their house twice. You know, this game could
- 1:43Speaker 2: have seated implications down the road. You never know. You'd
- 1:47Speaker 2: rather have it than not. Oh. Absolutely, And then here's
- 1:50Speaker 2: an opportunity. Put Kansas City at oh to two. And
- 1:54Speaker 2: they have been competing in the postseason from the comfy
- 1:57Speaker 2: confines of Arrowhead Stadium for how many years now.
- 2:01Speaker 3: They've hosted They hosted five AFC Championship games in a row.
- 2:05Speaker 2: All right, So why not try to change that little
- 2:08Speaker 2: set up there that they've got. It would be nice.
- 2:11Speaker 3: The last time the Chiefs were zero and two was
- 2:13Speaker 3: twenty fourteen Bugs and Alex Smith was the quarterback, Doug
- 2:18Speaker 3: Peterson was the offensive coordinator. Patrick Mahomes was a freshman
- 2:22Speaker 3: at Texas Tech. It's been a while. They finished nine
- 2:25Speaker 3: and seven though they rallied.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Well it's you know, look, I let him rally next week,
- 2:31Speaker 2: just not this week. And how about this?
- 2:32Speaker 3: So yeah, Andy Reid, if he gets a win, would
- 2:36Speaker 3: tie Tom Landry for the fourth most wins in the
- 2:39Speaker 3: history of the NFL.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Wow. So he's one win from tying Landry if he
- 2:43Speaker 2: wins on Sunday. All right, well, I mean take that
- 2:46Speaker 2: a couple of weeks away too. Andy Reids a Hall
- 2:48Speaker 2: of Fame coach. I mean, at some point he's gonna
- 2:50Speaker 2: be in Canton and very deserving. But you know, and look,
- 2:57Speaker 2: Doug Peterson has never beat him. What is it was
- 2:59Speaker 2: Doug O three now against Andy Reid one in Philly
- 3:03Speaker 2: and then to two last year. So I think it's
- 3:07Speaker 2: time to change that. I'm sure that Doug would like
- 3:09Speaker 2: to to get on the winning side of things against
- 3:12Speaker 2: the teacher so to speak, or the mentor whatever you
- 3:15Speaker 2: want to call him. I mean, the first time they
- 3:17Speaker 2: crossed paths was when Doug was a player with Green
- 3:20Speaker 2: Bay and Andy was a quarterbacks.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Coach, right he was, well, he was actually I think
- 3:24Speaker 3: the tight ends coach at first, and then switched over
- 3:28Speaker 3: in the last year or so and Doug was there,
- 3:31Speaker 3: and then you know, obviously when Andy Reid got the
- 3:34Speaker 3: job in Philly, he came over to Philly as a quarterback,
- 3:38Speaker 3: that gave him a chance to start in Philly of
- 3:40Speaker 3: all things, and then followed him as an assistant when
- 3:43Speaker 3: when Reid was in Philadelphia as the head coach, and
- 3:46Speaker 3: when he came back into coaching. So a long history
- 3:50Speaker 3: with Andy Reid, obviously on and off the field, and
- 3:52Speaker 3: it continues this Sunday. Jacks fans want customized Jaguars furnitship
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- 4:02Speaker 3: storyline this week, of course, I mean the quarterbacks, Mames
- 4:06Speaker 3: versus Lawrence. It doesn't get much bigger than that. It's
- 4:10Speaker 3: one of those matchups you really could remember for a
- 4:12Speaker 3: long time. Game of the week could be.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I mean, where's a better game at I mean, if
- 4:18Speaker 2: if you look at the NFL schedule and you know
- 4:20Speaker 2: when you say game of the week, you're talking top
- 4:23Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league, and you know tonight you've got
- 4:28Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts versus uh Kirk Cousins. I mean, that's not
- 4:32Speaker 2: a marquee matchup. I mean, it's a good match up
- 4:35Speaker 2: just because it's Philadelphia and and then by themselves as
- 4:38Speaker 2: a draw to me because I think there's such a
- 4:41Speaker 2: talented team across across. I mean I'm talking offense, defense,
- 4:44Speaker 2: special teams, all of them. You got the Ravens and
- 4:46Speaker 2: the Bengals this week. That's a good match up. Yeah,
- 4:49Speaker 2: I mean it's good. But I mean, does Lamar Jackson
- 4:52Speaker 2: make you go wow? Yes, I mean he does when
- 4:54Speaker 2: he when he runs it. I mean, but I mean
- 4:57Speaker 2: is he wont an MVP? I mean, but is he
- 5:00Speaker 2: in the conversation of the elite quarterbacks in the a
- 5:03Speaker 2: f C. I mean from the running standpoint, he, yes,
- 5:06Speaker 2: he is. I don't see it. I mean I think
- 5:09Speaker 2: he's just step back. I'm not saying that's a better
- 5:13Speaker 2: matchup than this one. I'm saying that's still a very no.
- 5:16Speaker 4: No.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I think it's a very good Okay, very good, to
- 5:19Speaker 2: use your turn, very good, very good Texans rookies. Wait
- 5:23Speaker 2: a minute, Jack's Chiefs. That's excellent. Yes, okay, very good
- 5:27Speaker 2: versus excellent. I'm taking that.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Okay, fine, Colts Texans young rookies first round draft picks.
- 5:32Speaker 2: This year.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Okay, give it some time down the line. Maybe Rams No.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Dolphins Patriots No. Two is getting better, getting better.
- 5:44Speaker 2: He was number one ready quarterback in Week one. Pretty
- 5:46Speaker 2: darn sure. You're right, Hey, that's it is the I
- 5:51Speaker 2: think I think it's the best matchup of the week.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I mean from a quarterback standpoint. And but it's one
- 5:57Speaker 2: of those.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Like you'll you'll look back at this game maybe and
- 6:00Speaker 3: who knows how the game goes, how the next few
- 6:03Speaker 3: years ago will determine a lot of this. But maybe
- 6:07Speaker 3: if the Jaguars get over the top of this game
- 6:09Speaker 3: and it carries them in this season into the postseason
- 6:13Speaker 3: where they all of a sudden in a year or
- 6:15Speaker 3: two times have taken the throne from Kansas City, you
- 6:19Speaker 3: might look back at this game as maybe the turning point.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Well maybe, but I mean, look, taking the throne from
- 6:24Speaker 2: Kansas City. I mean, look, they got two, they got
- 6:27Speaker 2: two Super Bowl wins in the last three years. Well
- 6:30Speaker 2: that's history. Well I mean, yeah, JP, I'm all for it,
- 6:34Speaker 2: you know, Okay, but I don't think I think that
- 6:37Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a rotating crown, so to speak,
- 6:41Speaker 2: in the AFC. And you just want to be in
- 6:43Speaker 2: that rotation because I mean, look, there's some talented quarterbacks.
- 6:47Speaker 2: I think that this game can go a long way
- 6:49Speaker 2: towards solidifying Trevor Lawrence in the conversation with Joe Burrow
- 6:54Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson. I mean, okay,
- 7:00Speaker 2: if you want to talk about the elite quarterbacks, I mean,
- 7:03Speaker 2: this could do it for Trevor. But you you've got
- 7:06Speaker 2: to have a moment. And I think Trevor had a
- 7:08Speaker 2: moment last year against Justin Herbert in the playoffs. That
- 7:11Speaker 2: was a big one. Well, now if you do that
- 7:14Speaker 2: against Patrick Mahomes, people are going to say, whoa him?
- 7:17Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes. Okay, who's next? Darty? Did Lamar
- 7:22Speaker 2: Jackson last year? Right? The Bills would be next to Tottenham? Right?
- 7:27Speaker 2: And then coming up in England? Is that considered London
- 7:31Speaker 2: by the way? Okay, it's a big city, Yes it is.
- 7:35Speaker 2: It's like Wembley is considered London, but yet it's not
- 7:38Speaker 2: really London. It's London, but it's not really. It's easier
- 7:41Speaker 2: to say London. Okay, that's right.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Also a big game that Josh all big games, right,
- 7:46Speaker 3: big game? Maybe Josh will throw three picks to the Jags,
- 7:49Speaker 3: and well, I hope so, and we got some weeks
- 7:52Speaker 3: to get to that game. This is the one, though,
- 7:54Speaker 3: and this is the matchup where Okay, Patrick Mahomes doesn't
- 7:58Speaker 3: have the weapons he had a couple of years Tyreek
- 8:00Speaker 3: Hills in Miami now.
- 8:02Speaker 2: And by the way, what did he have like three
- 8:04Speaker 2: hundred yards receiving the other day.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Because they decided to play man coverage against him all
- 8:08Speaker 3: over the place? Hell uh, pretty wild. So he doesn't
- 8:11Speaker 3: have that over the top guy anymore.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster was not an over the top guy,
- 8:16Speaker 2: but at least he was Patrick's guy last year. And
- 8:19Speaker 2: where did he go? He's in He's somewhere else. He's
- 8:23Speaker 2: not in Kansas City. So you have Marquez Valdez Scantling.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I mean Patriots sky Moore, Juju Smith Shuster's of the Patriots.
- 8:34Speaker 2: You know, sky Moore was a draft pick a couple
- 8:36Speaker 2: of years ago and he hasn't really done it. I
- 8:38Speaker 2: think Caadarius Tony had the worst rated game by a
- 8:40Speaker 2: wide receiver in the National Football League Week one, and
- 8:43Speaker 2: you know he's capable of better than that. But I mean,
- 8:46Speaker 2: he had a tough outing, and then you have draft
- 8:48Speaker 2: picks Justin Watson, Richie James, Justin Ross. I mean, a
- 8:52Speaker 2: bunch of guys, you know. But the reality is is
- 8:55Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes can make a lot of guys look
- 8:58Speaker 2: really good. And when he has Travis Kelcey, he's not
- 9:04Speaker 2: just a guy. I mean, this guy's awesome. I mean,
- 9:09Speaker 2: what what is he I was doing numbers. Seven consecutive
- 9:12Speaker 2: one thousand yard seasons for Travis Kelcey remarkable, it really is.
- 9:18Speaker 2: I mean, he had like the first couple of years
- 9:19Speaker 2: he had I think like seven eight hundred yards receiving
- 9:23Speaker 2: and then bam, thousand thousand, thousand, thousand thousand thousand thouars.
- 9:28Speaker 2: He's awesome. And if he's nicked up and not quite
- 9:31Speaker 2: one hundred percent, great because I can tell you know, look,
- 9:35Speaker 2: that's that's that's an area the Jaguars defense struggle with
- 9:38Speaker 2: last year defending tight ends. You could say that for
- 9:41Speaker 2: the past decade, you know. Look, I mean, look, I'm
- 9:47Speaker 2: just living in the present. Made a career against this,
- 9:50Speaker 2: You'm just living in the present.
- 9:51Speaker 5: You know.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Last year, nobody in the league gave up more receiving
- 9:54Speaker 2: yards to tight ends than the Jaguars. Fair. And part
- 9:57Speaker 2: of the reason why is that they faced Travis Kelcey.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Yes twice, Yeah, that's right. And in the playoff the
- 10:04Speaker 2: playoff didn't count that I'm talking about.
- 10:06Speaker 3: But in the playoff game, you know, fourteen catches, only
- 10:10Speaker 3: ninety eight yards, but still two touchdownds.
- 10:12Speaker 2: I mean, he was oh effective in that. He's so good.
- 10:15Speaker 2: He's just he's crafty. But you don't big.
- 10:18Speaker 3: What you don't want from him the longs is him
- 10:20Speaker 3: running wild for like the thirty yard games. That's when
- 10:24Speaker 3: it can get really strange. I mean that can take
- 10:26Speaker 3: a six.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Yard game here or there, but not very often that
- 10:29Speaker 2: he has a thirty yard gain. I mean, that's kind
- 10:33Speaker 2: of the outlier with him. He's a tight end. Most
- 10:35Speaker 2: tight ends are somewhere in that eight to twelve yard
- 10:40Speaker 2: per reception range. Kelsey's typically a little bit on the
- 10:43Speaker 2: higher end of that. But he's got a ton of receptions.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I mean, just I mean a tight end that consistently
- 10:50Speaker 2: gets a thousand yards. I mean, is he the greatest
- 10:52Speaker 2: tight end ever? Ever? No, gronk, you think, I mean,
- 10:58Speaker 2: look at the numbers. I mean, let's look at the numbers.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Let's get to the break. And we'll pull the numbers
- 11:03Speaker 2: out because I'm gonna tell you now, that's that's a
- 11:05Speaker 2: great argument. We could probably get into that about the man.
- 11:08Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Gronk, but man, consistency wise,
- 11:13Speaker 2: it's hard to get better than Kelsey. Now their their
- 11:17Speaker 2: neck and neck for sure. So here's the question for
- 11:19Speaker 2: the Jaguars defense. How do you begin to slow him down?
- 11:23Speaker 2: How do you defend him Kelsey? Bang him on the
- 11:28Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and try to put two on them
- 11:30Speaker 2: when you can. I mean, that's what you gotta do.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's the most consistent weapon for Patrick
- 11:39Speaker 2: Mahomes play in and play out, and when you want
- 11:43Speaker 2: to stop somebody, you want to take away the bread
- 11:45Speaker 2: and butter, and right now, I mean that's that's the
- 11:47Speaker 2: most comfortable bread and butter thing that Travis or that
- 11:52Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes haves is Travis Kelsey. I mean, he's that good.
- 11:56Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's just dynamic in so many different ways,
- 11:59Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's pretty decent blocker too, you know,
- 12:02Speaker 2: which is kind of odd. A lot of times when
- 12:04Speaker 2: you get a guy that just wants to he just
- 12:05Speaker 2: wants to catch the ball, but Kelsey's willing to do
- 12:08Speaker 2: a little bit of the dirty work as well. And
- 12:11Speaker 2: those two guys, I mean, one little look from one
- 12:14Speaker 2: to the other, and it's like this unspoken communication that
- 12:19Speaker 2: happens with these two guys, and all of a sudden
- 12:21Speaker 2: they change the route and do things that adjustments on
- 12:24Speaker 2: the sideline. I mean, and he's a special player now.
- 12:28Speaker 2: And here's the crazy thing. Kelsey hasn't missed a game
- 12:31Speaker 2: in like forever. I mean, for him to miss the
- 12:34Speaker 2: opening game, I mean, I think he has I don't
- 12:37Speaker 2: know how many consecutive games with a catch, but the
- 12:40Speaker 2: number is just jaw dropping. It's just it's incredible. They
- 12:43Speaker 2: always find a way to get the ball to him.
- 12:45Speaker 2: If he's out there, well, he finds a way to
- 12:49Speaker 2: open the lane to get the ball to him. I mean,
- 12:52Speaker 2: he's that good. I don't think you can cover him
- 12:55Speaker 2: with one guy. I mean, JP, name me one guy
- 13:00Speaker 2: on this Jaguars football team that you would feel good about.
- 13:03Speaker 2: You know what, Hey, you covered Kelsey and we're gonna
- 13:05Speaker 2: be just fine.
- 13:06Speaker 3: So it's Kelsey's not like a dynamic, fast guy though, right,
- 13:11Speaker 3: But but I mean tell me somebody that I feel
- 13:13Speaker 3: you would feel good about that.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I mean him or Cisco somebody like that. You feel
- 13:19Speaker 2: good about that? Yeah, I don't feel great about it,
- 13:22Speaker 2: but I'm not feeling great about it. Who would you
- 13:24Speaker 2: put on him? Now? Two? Both of them on them,
- 13:29Speaker 2: two different guys. Both of those guys Dena. Lloyd and
- 13:31Speaker 2: Andre Cisco. Good luck you are not getting the football
- 13:35Speaker 2: play with twelve. We'll see what happens with that.
- 13:38Speaker 3: It's something to watch obviously in this game to see
- 13:41Speaker 3: his status as we move along and get the injury
- 13:43Speaker 3: report coming up.
- 13:44Speaker 2: And just a little bit as well.
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- 13:53Speaker 3: come back in a moment. Jaguars offense. What could they
- 13:57Speaker 3: do against the Chiefs defense this week? Chris Jones is back,
- 14:01Speaker 3: you might have heard on the defensive line for the Chiefs.
- 14:04Speaker 3: And at about four thirty Kay Stevens joins us in studio.
- 14:08Speaker 3: We are underway on Thursday. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 14:14Speaker 6: As the game progresses, they get better, right and and
- 14:16Speaker 6: so that's something that is a challenge for us, you know,
- 14:20Speaker 6: and one of the things that we've been able to
- 14:23Speaker 6: do most recently, is is is the same thing, you know,
- 14:28Speaker 6: get better kind of as the game progresses and get
- 14:30Speaker 6: into the fourth quarter, and evident of that last week,
- 14:34Speaker 6: you know, and and how we you know, we're able
- 14:37Speaker 6: to score. Defense gets to stop things like that, and
- 14:40Speaker 6: and you know, it could it could come down to that, right,
- 14:43Speaker 6: It could come down to a kick, could come down
- 14:46Speaker 6: to whoever has the ball last, which you know you
- 14:50Speaker 6: do look at the playoff game, right and if we don't, we.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Don't fumble, hopefully you score.
- 14:54Speaker 6: You're down three with you know, five minutes to go,
- 14:57Speaker 6: you get, you know, so it's going to come down
- 14:59Speaker 6: to those types of types of moments.
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- 15:38Speaker 3: All right, So the Jaguars offense last week, just briefly review.
- 15:43Speaker 3: You know, third and fourth downs not ideal for this
- 15:45Speaker 3: the Jags offense, but they found a way in key
- 15:49Speaker 3: moments late to score and they put up thirty one
- 15:52Speaker 3: points on a day where they were just awful on
- 15:55Speaker 3: third and fourth down. Well, and credit the defense that really,
- 15:59Speaker 3: I think. Look, they hung a thirty one donut on
- 16:03Speaker 3: the Colts, but without defense, that doesn't happen. I mean,
- 16:07Speaker 3: there's just no way.
- 16:09Speaker 2: I think what really impressed me and I just couldn't
- 16:11Speaker 2: want to focus in on the defense just for a
- 16:12Speaker 2: little minute because that really enabled the offense the time
- 16:17Speaker 2: to get better in the course of the game. And
- 16:20Speaker 2: if you think about it, when the Colts took the
- 16:24Speaker 2: lead or the Jaguars took the lead at seventeen fourteen,
- 16:27Speaker 2: they hit a stretch of offense that was just miserable,
- 16:30Speaker 2: I mean, not good at all. And during that stretch
- 16:33Speaker 2: was the sack calls, fumble return for a touchdown, the
- 16:36Speaker 2: quad effective for Devorce Buckner. But in that stretch, the
- 16:41Speaker 2: Jaguars defense I think had three three and outs and
- 16:44Speaker 2: then a takeaway which led to the forty seven yard
- 16:49Speaker 2: punt return by Jamal Agno. So I mean the defense
- 16:52Speaker 2: in that stretch when they needed them most, they were
- 16:55Speaker 2: lights out, lights out, and then all of a sudden,
- 16:57Speaker 2: you get the punt return. The offense wakes up, thank goodness,
- 17:00Speaker 2: to a fourth down conversion to Zay Jones on that drive,
- 17:04Speaker 2: second of the game for and then boom, you're you're
- 17:08Speaker 2: in the end zone. And then you come back out.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Tyson gets a really nice interception on a poorly thrown
- 17:12Speaker 2: ball by the rookie, and then the offense takes it
- 17:16Speaker 2: down the field in just a couple of plays in
- 17:17Speaker 2: the end zone, and now it's a two possession game
- 17:20Speaker 2: and the game is essentially over because Anthony Richardson just
- 17:23Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the position you want to have
- 17:24Speaker 2: a young quarterback. Then, But the defense I think got
- 17:29Speaker 2: to give them a lot of credit. A lot of
- 17:30Speaker 2: people had a lot of questions about, including me, you know,
- 17:33Speaker 2: can they rush the passer, can they hold up you know,
- 17:36Speaker 2: they didn't add any parts or pieces to the component
- 17:40Speaker 2: through the off season. Is that going to be okay?
- 17:43Speaker 2: And look, they played fantastic three takeaways as a defense.
- 17:48Speaker 2: You got seven points off of those three takeaways. You
- 17:51Speaker 2: also stop the Colts two times on downs. Just a
- 17:54Speaker 2: tremendous job. Tremendous job.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Yeah, really good job in the offense. Now moving ahead
- 18:00Speaker 3: against this Kansas City defense. You know they've they've got
- 18:04Speaker 3: Chris Smith. How much of a difference will that make
- 18:07Speaker 3: up front? Jaguars have a couple of guys on the
- 18:09Speaker 3: injury report this week. We'll see their statut Chris Jones
- 18:12Speaker 3: this week. Well, Chris Jones up front. First of all, yes,
- 18:15Speaker 3: we'll get to that. But there are there the center
- 18:18Speaker 3: and right guard, both on the injury report for the
- 18:20Speaker 3: Jaguars'll see what We'll see their status moving ahead. But
- 18:24Speaker 3: what can you really expect from Chris Smith being out
- 18:27Speaker 3: for so long?
- 18:31Speaker 2: Chris Smith? What do you mean, Christmas, Chris Chris Jones.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Jeez my gosh, what in the world it was like
- 18:38Speaker 2: a base I don't know. It's a long day. And
- 18:42Speaker 2: Chris Smith, former Jaguars defensive passed away recently. Yes, God
- 18:47Speaker 2: rest his soul, Chris Jones. I think you're talking about
- 18:51Speaker 2: twenty five snaps in this game because you're you're talking
- 18:55Speaker 2: ninety degree temperatures. Possibly it's his first action back. He
- 19:02Speaker 2: is the best player on the Chiefs defense hands down.
- 19:06Speaker 2: It's not even an argument. I mean, he's that good.
- 19:10Speaker 2: You're talking about the second best defensive tackle in the league.
- 19:15Speaker 2: The only guy that I think that can dominate a
- 19:19Speaker 2: game like an Aaron Donald from that defensive tackle spot.
- 19:23Speaker 2: I mean, he's just he's unbelievable. And the Jaguars have
- 19:26Speaker 2: a weakness right now. The performance that deforce Buckner had
- 19:31Speaker 2: this past game showed that the Jaguars need to be
- 19:34Speaker 2: better at those two guard spots in the center position.
- 19:38Speaker 2: You know, Barts was in his first game back and
- 19:40Speaker 2: hadn't played in a while, was coming back from a
- 19:43Speaker 2: significant knee entry, had a little bit of a playtime
- 19:46Speaker 2: there against Miami Dolphins. Well, this guy this week, I mean,
- 19:50Speaker 2: it's a whole I don't want to say it's a
- 19:52Speaker 2: whole different level, because deforce Buckner is one of the
- 19:54Speaker 2: elite tackles in the game, with probably like number five
- 19:58Speaker 2: or six, but I mean we're talking about number two here, Okay,
- 20:01Speaker 2: number two. That's a big, strong he can rush the passer.
- 20:05Speaker 2: He can do everything, everything, and I'm surprised that they
- 20:10Speaker 2: were able to get him back in the fold on
- 20:14Speaker 2: a one year deal. I mean, I'm just I'm shocked.
- 20:18Speaker 2: I mean, I was reading through. I have to go
- 20:21Speaker 2: find it again. Some of the incentives to do that.
- 20:24Speaker 2: If they make a run again, let's say they go
- 20:26Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, he's getting a significant bonus that
- 20:30Speaker 2: comes with some of the playtime incentives, a lot of
- 20:33Speaker 2: the number incentives, everything comes with that. If he gets
- 20:36Speaker 2: voted to these things, they've added that to the at
- 20:40Speaker 2: least this one year, I would guess. I mean, they're
- 20:42Speaker 2: gonna go fix that. Well, Chris Jones said himself. He said, look,
- 20:46Speaker 2: he said, they gave me enough of an increase this
- 20:51Speaker 2: year that would cover the fines, because I remember he
- 20:55Speaker 2: had fines that could not be rescinded for missing time
- 20:58Speaker 2: in training camp because he had a con track and
- 21:01Speaker 2: then also the missed game check. So he's going to
- 21:03Speaker 2: make all of that back and he's gonna get some more.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And I haven't heard whether or not that there was
- 21:11Speaker 2: an agreement to have the ability to tag him or
- 21:14Speaker 2: not at the end of this deal. I was hoping
- 21:17Speaker 2: that he would hold out for another week. I wouldn't
- 21:20Speaker 2: have been entirely upset, but I mean, he he's such
- 21:24Speaker 2: a good football player that he now makes them better
- 21:27Speaker 2: because not only are they getting him back, but now
- 21:31Speaker 2: they're putting other players back in the position that they
- 21:34Speaker 2: can be better at as well. For example, Mike Dana, Okay,
- 21:39Speaker 2: Mike Dana is a kind of a defensive end, good player,
- 21:42Speaker 2: strong player. They had him as an inside rusher of
- 21:45Speaker 2: this past game. Well, he's a powerful guy. I love
- 21:49Speaker 2: keep him outside, you know, naughty another defensive tackle. It's
- 21:52Speaker 2: a very good football player that they have for Kansas City,
- 21:56Speaker 2: and now you allow him to be in a comfortable
- 21:58Speaker 2: position playing where he's should be at. You know, they're
- 22:01Speaker 2: trying to have everybody kind of cover for the lack
- 22:04Speaker 2: of Chris Jones being on the on the football team
- 22:06Speaker 2: this past game. This week, you know, you're gonna still
- 22:09Speaker 2: have to do some things, but you're gonna have the
- 22:11Speaker 2: man back in the middle.
- 22:13Speaker 3: A few of those numbers that we were just talking
- 22:15Speaker 3: about for Jones, Yeah, he gets a million bucks for
- 22:19Speaker 3: participating thirty five percent of the snaps, another million for
- 22:22Speaker 3: fifty percent. If he gets ten sacks, he gets one
- 22:25Speaker 3: point two five. Now it's one point seven to five
- 22:28Speaker 3: s fifteen, So it just builds up and up, and
- 22:31Speaker 3: the two point one million dollars in training camp fines
- 22:34Speaker 3: are not waivable. That's why they added all these incentives. Right,
- 22:37Speaker 3: that's the point.
- 22:38Speaker 2: All right, So.
- 22:41Speaker 3: What does this defense normally feel like in Kansas City?
- 22:45Speaker 3: How do they Yeah, they normally play it pretty daring.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I would call him daring. And Steve Spagnola, the
- 22:52Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, likes to play some aggressive ball. He will
- 22:57Speaker 2: he will bring blitzes. He will play cover zero behind it,
- 23:01Speaker 2: which means that nobody's getting anybody help. Nobody's getting any help.
- 23:05Speaker 2: A lot of times if you blitz, then you can
- 23:08Speaker 2: have a single high safety deep in the middle to help,
- 23:12Speaker 2: you know, if somebody gets out, he can be there
- 23:15Speaker 2: to kind of make that touchdown saving tackle. Cover zero
- 23:18Speaker 2: means there is no safety help, nobody's there at all.
- 23:21Speaker 2: You're on your island all by yourself. Okay, Tom Hanks castaway,
- 23:25Speaker 2: We'll see what you are. Wilson Wilson. Yeah, you're hanging
- 23:28Speaker 2: out with Wilson, which is nobody. But yeah, he's a
- 23:32Speaker 2: he's a guy that will that will take risks he
- 23:36Speaker 2: likes bringing speed, and if you have a quarterback that
- 23:40Speaker 2: has a quickness of the mind and can make the
- 23:44Speaker 2: decisions quickly and can deliver the ball accurately, you could
- 23:49Speaker 2: have a quarterback have a big day. And so could
- 23:53Speaker 2: this be a big day for Trep Very well? Could be,
- 23:55Speaker 2: you know, because if you're going to bring that pressure now,
- 23:58Speaker 2: you're gonna single Evan Ingram, You're gonna single Calvin Ridley,
- 24:03Speaker 2: You're gonna single Christian Kirk and Zay Jones. And if
- 24:07Speaker 2: the quarterback is on, you're gonna pay a price if
- 24:11Speaker 2: you can get it out. Gotta block them. No, there's
- 24:13Speaker 2: no doubt. I mean the one I think the most
- 24:17Speaker 2: important component about the execution of the offense this week
- 24:23Speaker 2: is that the offensive line has to take a step up.
- 24:28Speaker 2: I mean this pass game that you know and look
- 24:31Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons that you give them an
- 24:33Speaker 2: excuse I don't want to say an excuse, but a
- 24:35Speaker 2: pass whatever you want to call it, an explanation as
- 24:38Speaker 2: to why their performance wasn't where you wanted it to be.
- 24:42Speaker 2: You know, you you had multiple guys that weren't playing
- 24:46Speaker 2: because of injury. Leading up to the game. BArch was
- 24:49Speaker 2: again coming back from from an injury. The only guy
- 24:53Speaker 2: that for the most part, that was out there through
- 24:55Speaker 2: the entirety of training camp was Fortner and then sheriff.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Tom Harrison, your right tackled had a right shoulder injury.
- 25:03Speaker 2: It's been bothering. He's been in and out of practice.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Walker Little missed the last preseason game for precautionary reasons
- 25:10Speaker 2: because of some injury we don't really know about.
- 25:13Speaker 3: And he was splitting time in camp with with Cam Robinson.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Bartch obviously coming back from a significant
- 25:19Speaker 2: knee injury. Shatley, who had to play when Sheriff went down,
- 25:22Speaker 2: hadn't practiced much in camp because of the aphib stuff.
- 25:25Speaker 2: I mean, it's so a lot of reasons to explain
- 25:28Speaker 2: why their performance wasn't where it needed to be. And
- 25:30Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna get better, okay, and this
- 25:33Speaker 2: week would be a great time to do that. How
- 25:35Speaker 2: do you help him? Well, I think Trevor is really
- 25:39Speaker 2: good at helping an offensive line as far as you know,
- 25:42Speaker 2: he gets the ball out, he moves in the pocket,
- 25:44Speaker 2: he feels pressure, he buys time without having to do
- 25:48Speaker 2: the the wiggly things that Josh Allen would term that
- 25:52Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes does. That's a great term. By the way
- 25:55Speaker 2: that he uses He's Wiggley's.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Fair grade line sense makes sense. Hey, plenty ahead. We're
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- 26:31Speaker 5: I would say easy. I think it's simple to make
- 26:33Speaker 5: the adjustments. It's sometimes harder to execute. But I do
- 26:37Speaker 5: think that the most pretty much all the things are
- 26:39Speaker 5: self inflicted that we did on Sunday to put us
- 26:42Speaker 5: in these bad situations. So should be able to clean
- 26:45Speaker 5: those up, and we have to. You gotta play cleaner
- 26:47Speaker 5: than that if you expect to win. Obviously, our defense
- 26:49Speaker 5: had some huge stops, but you know that's putting a
- 26:52Speaker 5: lot of pressure on them time after time to do
- 26:54Speaker 5: that and kind of bring us out of that hole.
- 26:56Speaker 5: And we don't want to do that, So you know,
- 26:58Speaker 5: you got to You gotta play cleaner. Like we talked
- 27:00Speaker 5: about playing against a team like the Chiefs this this Sunday.
- 27:03Speaker 5: You know you got to you got to execute better
- 27:04Speaker 5: than that.
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- 27:19Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, all the places today. Kai
- 27:23Speaker 3: Stevens joining us in the studio now, Jaguars Reporter.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Hello, happy to see you guys.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Chiefs Week.
- 27:29Speaker 4: It's Chiefs Week.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Kind of a big game.
- 27:32Speaker 4: I'd say, so if they can't fill the bank for
- 27:35Speaker 4: that game, then they're never going to. But I know
- 27:36Speaker 4: they already have sold it out, so I think we
- 27:38Speaker 4: should be good.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a packed house, great environment. Obviously,
- 27:42Speaker 3: before we get into that, would you take Kelsey or
- 27:45Speaker 3: Gronk as you're tied in all time as you're tied
- 27:49Speaker 3: d if you're building in their.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Prime, Yeah, one of the other. You'll check. You're taking Gronk.
- 27:53Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't cover Gronk. No one could drag him
- 27:55Speaker 4: down when he was healthy. When right, yes, brought healthy
- 27:58Speaker 4: prime Gronk.
- 28:00Speaker 2: He still scored ninety something touchdowns when he was hurt
- 28:02Speaker 2: all the time. Yes, yeah, but he only had four
- 28:05Speaker 2: one thousand yard seasons. Kelsey's had seven now in county.
- 28:09Speaker 2: He's also got how many super Bowl rings to go with?
- 28:12Speaker 2: Travis got two and was.
- 28:14Speaker 4: In two other ones. Yeah, yeah, they lost.
- 28:17Speaker 2: I mean it's two of the greatest all time. I
- 28:19Speaker 2: mean it's like you wouldn't go wrong either way. Yes,
- 28:23Speaker 2: I think Gronk's a better blocker. I will say that.
- 28:27Speaker 4: Gronk was always impressed with me because he's not fast,
- 28:29Speaker 4: but he's still with just no one could bring him.
- 28:32Speaker 4: It was like two people would have to tackle him
- 28:34Speaker 4: to get him down, so that alone, he would just
- 28:36Speaker 4: drag people with him.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Right, and once he got a full head of steam.
- 28:39Speaker 4: Yeah, get and listen. He's not slow. I don't mean that.
- 28:42Speaker 4: I just mean in terms of, like he's not out
- 28:44Speaker 4: running anybody, so like he'll get out and get open,
- 28:46Speaker 4: but then he'll drag two people with him another twenty yards.
- 28:49Speaker 4: So I would definitely take.
- 28:51Speaker 2: A great debate though. I mean today's all then and done.
- 28:53Speaker 4: It'll be probably Kelsey, depending how much longer he plays.
- 28:57Speaker 3: But yeah, he plays another five years at this level.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Come on, I think if you can pay eleven years.
- 29:02Speaker 4: Right, if you can take out the injuries and have
- 29:03Speaker 4: prime Gronk, I would have Gronk.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Great debate. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know in
- 29:08Speaker 2: today's day and age, just passing.
- 29:10Speaker 4: League also a point of yeah, I mean, it depends
- 29:13Speaker 4: what kind of scheme you're in, It depends who your
- 29:15Speaker 4: quarterback is, it depends if it's twenty twenty three or
- 29:18Speaker 4: twenty ten modern day.
- 29:19Speaker 2: I'm taking Kelsey.
- 29:21Speaker 3: All I know is the Jaguars get to line up
- 29:23Speaker 3: across from him this week, and it hasn't gone especially
- 29:26Speaker 3: well against him the last two times. Last time it was,
- 29:31Speaker 3: you know, kind of chipping down the field. Fourteen catches
- 29:33Speaker 3: in the game, still under one hundred yards, two touchdowns
- 29:36Speaker 3: in the playoff game. But if he's out there, no
- 29:39Speaker 3: matter if he's one hundred percent or not, he's a
- 29:41Speaker 3: primary target for number fifteen.
- 29:44Speaker 4: I'm curious how much we'll see him though, because if
- 29:46Speaker 4: he does, obviously it sounds like it might be a
- 29:47Speaker 4: game time decision. At this point. I know he's been practicing,
- 29:49Speaker 4: but how much how much will we actually see him
- 29:52Speaker 4: play because if he has banged up a little bit,
- 29:53Speaker 4: I mean that's a pain issue, of course. And with
- 29:57Speaker 4: all the other people that seem to be dropping balls,
- 29:58Speaker 4: you're gonna want to see. They're going to want to
- 30:00Speaker 4: have him out there as much as they can. But
- 30:03Speaker 4: is Patrick Mahomee's going to be able to trust some
- 30:05Speaker 4: of those guys that had the dropsies last week? I
- 30:07Speaker 4: mean he'll have to, but it's easier said than done
- 30:10Speaker 4: when you're out there and you're trying to find somebody
- 30:12Speaker 4: down the field.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be if Kelsey's out there,
- 30:16Speaker 2: he's full go Okay, Yeah, I think if he's not
- 30:19Speaker 2: going to be out there, well, you know, we're gonna
- 30:21Speaker 2: kind of limit him or something like that. That he's
- 30:24Speaker 2: been around the game too long, I think to be
- 30:27Speaker 2: used in that fashion. And all the drops you're talking
- 30:29Speaker 2: about Cadarius Tony, poor guy. The guy had a rough
- 30:33Speaker 2: go for four drops, big words. Well he had and
- 30:36Speaker 2: that's you know, and he re talked about it this week.
- 30:39Speaker 2: He said, you know, that's typically that's not his thing.
- 30:42Speaker 2: You know, he's got sure hands and well this past
- 30:45Speaker 2: game or you know, a week ago, that was his game.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Not a good one. But you know, here's the here's reality.
- 30:52Speaker 2: You go and look at he had the worst radiant
- 30:55Speaker 2: of a wide receiver by PFF and week one the
- 30:59Speaker 2: second worst hated running back was Tang Pigsby. You know, so,
- 31:03Speaker 2: I mean Bigsby had one of those days too, you
- 31:05Speaker 2: know where he had the fumble and then the ball
- 31:08Speaker 2: off his hands and Lee's doing an interception. But you know,
- 31:12Speaker 2: you sit there and you go, well, he's a rookie,
- 31:13Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony. What is in like year four? You're that old? Yeah,
- 31:18Speaker 2: year three or four? Maybe three, it's not long, it's
- 31:21Speaker 2: not the three. Yeah, yeah, you're three.
- 31:24Speaker 4: So it's just tough when it's in primetime because then
- 31:26Speaker 4: that's all anybody's gonna remember of you for a while.
- 31:28Speaker 2: Speaking of that, that's why the Juwan Taylor situation grew up.
- 31:32Speaker 2: The right tackle.
- 31:33Speaker 4: I obviously was not here last year, so it's the
- 31:35Speaker 4: first I've seen of this situation, and I was like, oh,
- 31:38Speaker 4: and then everyone I came to work, they're like, oh,
- 31:40Speaker 4: did you see that? They finally talked about John Taylor.
- 31:42Speaker 4: We've been talking about that for years, So you guys were.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Forever and we didn't talk about it much because he
- 31:48Speaker 2: was on the Jaguars. He's on our team, and we
- 31:50Speaker 2: were going to complain about it. But the reality is
- 31:53Speaker 2: is that he did the same thing. We're in teal.
- 31:55Speaker 2: But because the Jaguars stunk essentially for the early part
- 32:00Speaker 2: of his tenure and it didn't garner any attention, Well,
- 32:02Speaker 2: then he goes to a Super Bowl champion team and
- 32:05Speaker 2: then it's going to become front page and center for
- 32:08Speaker 2: everybody to watch. And I guarantee you there's a reaction
- 32:12Speaker 2: reaction by the league this week, guarantee.
- 32:15Speaker 3: In which regard the lining up behind the rear end
- 32:20Speaker 3: of the center part or the getting the jump on
- 32:22Speaker 3: the snap part or both.
- 32:24Speaker 4: When you watch the film, the timing he's almost always
- 32:26Speaker 4: on spot on is.
- 32:27Speaker 2: It's a lot of the Yeah, it's the lining up.
- 32:31Speaker 4: I don't know if it technically is a penalty. Yeah,
- 32:32Speaker 4: it's the lining up where he's like two feet behind
- 32:34Speaker 4: everybody else. I think that would be the breaking up
- 32:36Speaker 4: the rule. He is immaculate with the timing, Like even
- 32:39Speaker 4: when you slow down and it's frame by frame, it's
- 32:41Speaker 4: like he's on the money. So I don't even know
- 32:43Speaker 4: if that's anything.
- 32:44Speaker 2: I've slowed it down for like the first four years
- 32:47Speaker 2: of his career. Is he timing and up and he's
- 32:51Speaker 2: really good at it. Every now and again he'll he'll
- 32:53Speaker 2: be a little early, okay, but an official, it's got
- 32:57Speaker 2: to be really obvious for them to throw the flag
- 32:59Speaker 2: on that. But the alignment thing, it's not even a question.
- 33:03Speaker 4: I mean, he's far behind it. And he's also like
- 33:05Speaker 4: off to the side as well.
- 33:06Speaker 2: You know, the rule is is that you have to
- 33:08Speaker 2: be able to break the plane of the of the
- 33:13Speaker 2: belt of the center. Okay, he's not even touching the
- 33:18Speaker 2: outer cheek by the belt the belts, so not the
- 33:22Speaker 2: rear end. It's where the actual belt the like the
- 33:27Speaker 2: mid hip belt somewhere, and that it's got a it's
- 33:30Speaker 2: got a. He's not even breaking the plane of the
- 33:35Speaker 2: end of the cheeks of the center. No, okay, not
- 33:37Speaker 2: even both cheeks. And no, it's not all the time.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I mean, it's occasionally that he is so far back.
- 33:45Speaker 2: And last week he obviously wanted to have that advantage
- 33:48Speaker 2: because he's going against a marvelous player in Aiden Hutchinson's Yeah,
- 33:52Speaker 2: and that's a that's a huge advantage for a tackle
- 33:55Speaker 2: if he can line up that deep. I mean, as
- 33:58Speaker 2: a pass rusher, one of the great things that you
- 34:01Speaker 2: always want is the ability to threaten the upfield shoulder
- 34:04Speaker 2: of a tackle. And if he can line up another
- 34:07Speaker 2: yard and a half or a half a yard deeper,
- 34:10Speaker 2: it takes away the advantage of trying to get the
- 34:12Speaker 2: corner on the guy. You can't you can't get it.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Crowd noise will be big this week. That would be
- 34:19Speaker 3: nice to give them some more issues on the offensive
- 34:22Speaker 3: line this week, right, you hope you know.
- 34:25Speaker 2: And here's the thing. Kansas City, they went out and
- 34:28Speaker 2: they've got two entirely new tackles, Donovan Smith formerly at
- 34:31Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks, and then obviously Juwan at right tackle.
- 34:36Speaker 2: The three inside guys are really good, I am really good.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Joe Tooney who came from New England at left guard.
- 34:42Speaker 2: He was a top five guard for the last couple
- 34:45Speaker 2: of years. And then the center, Creed Humphrey might be
- 34:49Speaker 2: one of the best three centers in all of football.
- 34:53Speaker 2: And they got one in Philadelphia who Kelsey's brother and
- 34:59Speaker 2: Jason kell See. And then the guy in Baltimore from
- 35:04Speaker 2: Iowa is another one that's right there at the top.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I can't remember his name. Good football player. The Jaguars
- 35:09Speaker 2: really liked him coming out in the draft. And then
- 35:11Speaker 2: at right guard, Tray Smith's a good football player too,
- 35:14Speaker 2: So I mean this might be the best group of
- 35:17Speaker 2: three when you talk about guard guard center that the
- 35:20Speaker 2: Jaguars will face looking forward to the matchup for sure.
- 35:24Speaker 2: And yeah, the Chiefs have a couple of running backs too, by.
- 35:26Speaker 3: The way, if they choose to go that routeless Jaguars
- 35:30Speaker 3: defense though, can be up to the task in the
- 35:33Speaker 3: run game.
- 35:34Speaker 2: All Access tonight, what you got, we.
- 35:37Speaker 4: Got the big man's coming through and Roy robertson here.
- 35:39Speaker 3: Speaking of stopping the run. A big Roy up front,
- 35:43Speaker 3: that'll be fun.
- 35:44Speaker 4: He's always a good time. So I'm excited to see.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Him defensive captain.
- 35:47Speaker 4: I know is his first year as captain. Yeah, right, Yeah,
- 35:50Speaker 4: that's great. I'm not surprised. I mean, he's certainly a
- 35:52Speaker 4: leader and vocally and he's he's truly he's so kind
- 35:57Speaker 4: and he's so nice. But he truly is one of
- 35:58Speaker 4: those people when he's like on the field ready for
- 36:00Speaker 4: the game, you're like, I get out of the way.
- 36:03Speaker 4: Like he really does I think flip a switch to
- 36:07Speaker 4: a different human being. So I just stay out of
- 36:09Speaker 4: his way. So he's about as intimidating as it gets
- 36:11Speaker 4: for me.
- 36:11Speaker 2: He is a big, strong dude. I mean big strong dude.
- 36:17Speaker 2: When you watch the battles of some of the best,
- 36:22Speaker 2: most powerful offensive lineman in football, Roy can handle him.
- 36:27Speaker 2: I mean I'm talking handle him. The one guy last week,
- 36:31Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson. Everybody thinks he's great, and he's strong, he's great.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Roy handles him like, you know, he comes off on
- 36:39Speaker 2: Roy and was like, yeah, gotcha, you know it's all good.
- 36:42Speaker 5: You know.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Roy doesn't struggle against anybody power wise. I don't know
- 36:47Speaker 2: where he generates his strength from, but he is. He
- 36:50Speaker 2: is a man's man when it comes to power, playing
- 36:53Speaker 2: the game with power.
- 36:55Speaker 3: We'll get you to see that up close and personal
- 36:57Speaker 3: tonight at String Sports Brewery, seven o'clock right, Yes, different
- 37:01Speaker 3: station tonight. I think there's some coverage on Fox somewhere else.
- 37:04Speaker 3: I think it's on CBS.
- 37:05Speaker 4: I think you're correct. I think it is on CBS.
- 37:07Speaker 2: Stumped logs with that, he had no idea. I was like, yeah,
- 37:12Speaker 2: you're right, JP, Yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Whatever you say, I'll be it straight I'll be there,
- 37:16Speaker 3: Kai will see you have a good one.
- 37:18Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
- 37:19Speaker 3: Kay Stevens joining us Jaguars reporter from Jaguars dot Com.
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- 37:53Speaker 2: It's worth saving.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Thanks to Kay Stevens, I'm JP, Shadrick, Jeff Loghiman alongside
- 37:59Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour on TENENEXL ninety two point five FM,
- 38:02Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube coming up in Oh Gosh,
- 38:07Speaker 3: about thirteen minutes and change, twelve minutes and change. It's
- 38:10Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. The
- 38:14Speaker 3: Jaguars head coach will be in studio with us and
- 38:16Speaker 3: coming off a ten point road divisional win and facing
- 38:21Speaker 3: his former boss again. Andy Reid looking forward to hearing
- 38:25Speaker 3: from Doug.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Coming up. Yeah, it'll be interesting to kind of hear
- 38:29Speaker 2: from that standpoint. You know, when you go up against
- 38:32Speaker 2: the teacher, so to speak, you always want to win.
- 38:35Speaker 2: And Doug hasn't beaten Andy in three tries so far.
- 38:38Speaker 2: And it's never just a one on one battle, okay
- 38:42Speaker 2: between coaches, it's teams. But there's nothing better, I'm sure
- 38:47Speaker 2: than beating the teacher. If you are the student, tell.
- 38:50Speaker 3: Right after that long right, you learned almost everything you
- 38:54Speaker 3: know as an NFL coach from him.
- 38:56Speaker 2: If you've got a competitive fiber in your being, you
- 38:59Speaker 2: want to beat the man that you worked for, the
- 39:02Speaker 2: man that helped groom you, the man that helped shape you.
- 39:06Speaker 2: And it would go a long way towards kind of
- 39:12Speaker 2: establishing this football team in the conversation of one of
- 39:17Speaker 2: the best teams in the AFC. And you know last year,
- 39:20Speaker 2: you know when they end up nine and eight at
- 39:22Speaker 2: the end of the year, won a division, kind of
- 39:24Speaker 2: came back and ended up winning a bunch of games
- 39:26Speaker 2: there towards the end, we're like, yeah, yeah, this is great. Okay,
- 39:29Speaker 2: well if you take that next step. Okay, now, instead
- 39:33Speaker 2: of being happy and surprised by winning, you expect to
- 39:37Speaker 2: win and you can tell that that's a very distinct
- 39:41Speaker 2: change from last year at this point to where we
- 39:44Speaker 2: are right now. They expect to win. You heard it
- 39:48Speaker 2: from if you watched any of the sounds of the game.
- 39:51Speaker 2: I mean Trevor Lawrence in the tunnel before they ran
- 39:53Speaker 2: out to warm up before the game. It's like, you know, expected,
- 39:57Speaker 2: we're here, this is this is not negotia. Basically, he
- 40:00Speaker 2: didn't say that exactly, but he said expect it. That's
- 40:03Speaker 2: a win, that's right. And he is so mature beyond
- 40:06Speaker 2: his years. I mean, it's just it's a joy to watch.
- 40:11Speaker 2: And I don't know, and look, there's been some other
- 40:15Speaker 2: twenty three year old quarterbacks that have played really well,
- 40:18Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes being one of them. But the maturity level
- 40:22Speaker 2: that Trevor shows is I think it's impeccable. And that's
- 40:27Speaker 2: that's hard to find. I mean, for him to be
- 40:29Speaker 2: able to bounce back after one of the worst lost
- 40:33Speaker 2: years in franchise history, for him to be able to
- 40:36Speaker 2: bounce back from that kind of unharmed was I think tremendous. Well,
- 40:41Speaker 2: let's continue to see it between the lines on Sundays.
- 40:44Speaker 2: Just keep building them as they as they go along.
- 40:47Speaker 2: That's where you'll really see the results of that come through.
- 40:49Speaker 2: You know what I want to watch, I want to train.
- 40:51Speaker 2: You know. Look, we were talking earlier about how Steve Spagnola,
- 40:55Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator of the Chiefs, is pretty aggressive. You know,
- 40:58Speaker 2: he likes to it's a gamble a little bit. When
- 41:01Speaker 2: I say gamble, he's not afraid to blitz. Okay, if
- 41:05Speaker 2: you blitz, then that means you're leaving a weekend coverage
- 41:09Speaker 2: because it's kind of a you have to choose one
- 41:11Speaker 2: or the other. Do you leave extra guys in coverage
- 41:14Speaker 2: or do you send extra guys trying to pressure the quarterback?
- 41:18Speaker 2: Or you can try to play it balanced. He likes
- 41:21Speaker 2: to bring extra in the rush package, so that means
- 41:24Speaker 2: that you're gonna have a little depleted coverage. So if
- 41:29Speaker 2: you're gonna be depleted, probably gonna end up playing man
- 41:34Speaker 2: who's gonna cover redly, who's gonna cover Ingram? I think
- 41:39Speaker 2: they have better options at covering Ingram. This is a
- 41:43Speaker 2: game that I believe in Kirk. Christian Kirk can have
- 41:46Speaker 2: a big game. Right if you think about the games
- 41:49Speaker 2: last year, how many throws were just so close to
- 41:52Speaker 2: connecting and he still put up numbers. Yeah, without those, yes,
- 41:57Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be you know, and having
- 41:59Speaker 2: a game in which he had three targets only one
- 42:01Speaker 2: catch in Indianapolis and Trevor didn't even see him open
- 42:05Speaker 2: a couple of times. Uh, look, you gotta you gotta,
- 42:09Speaker 2: you gotta function within the offense as a quarterback. Okay.
- 42:13Speaker 2: But then there's also times where hey, look it's my guy, right,
- 42:18Speaker 2: I gotta make sure I get something to my guy.
- 42:21Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if early in this ball games
- 42:28Speaker 2: that's like, you know, the gun, you know, Trevor throwing
- 42:31Speaker 2: the sound like a gun. It's not sound like a
- 42:35Speaker 2: crunchy shoulder. That's not a good sound at all. Trevor
- 42:39Speaker 2: hitting Christian Kirk easily don't even better? That better? Yeah,
- 42:43Speaker 2: a little better. Okay. I'm looking forward to because I
- 42:47Speaker 2: don't think the Chiefs can cover them. I don't, I mean,
- 42:50Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, and I think that's gonna be
- 42:52Speaker 2: an opponent's problem every week, you know.
- 42:56Speaker 3: But that's I mean, because the Chiefs understand what they
- 42:59Speaker 3: have on the offensive side in Mahomes and the play
- 43:03Speaker 3: caller and weapons whatever weapons are around him, right, they
- 43:07Speaker 3: feel like they're gonna get their thirty points.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Per game, so they didn't get it last week.
- 43:11Speaker 3: But in theory, they feel like they could hold on.
- 43:14Speaker 3: They're gonna get their thirty points per game on offense.
- 43:16Speaker 3: That's why they can take risks on defense and maybe
- 43:19Speaker 3: try for a takeaway, get a sack fumble. All you
- 43:22Speaker 3: need is a couple stops In.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Theory, maybe maybe, But here's the thing. Last last game, okay,
- 43:29Speaker 2: cam City played Detroit. Detroit just played coverage. They didn't
- 43:35Speaker 2: do anything fancy to stop Patrick Mahomes. They just sat
- 43:38Speaker 2: back and played his own and they weren't worried about
- 43:41Speaker 2: Cam City. I think they were more worried about Patrick
- 43:45Speaker 2: Mahomes scrambling and doing that more so than they were
- 43:50Speaker 2: worried about anything else interesting. But they plied with surprised.
- 43:53Speaker 2: I mean, watching that film, I'm like, man, I can't
- 43:55Speaker 2: believe they played that much zone because you know, your
- 43:58Speaker 2: first thing is to instinct. Is you know what I thought.
- 44:00Speaker 2: All the losses that Kan City has had from a
- 44:03Speaker 2: weapons standpoint, Tyreek Hill, Okay, Jujus Smith Schuster, you know
- 44:07Speaker 2: you're losing guys, and especially the first game when they
- 44:11Speaker 2: don't have Kelsey, you wouldn't be afraid to play a man, right.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Detroit was like, Nah, we're just gonna play zone. And
- 44:19Speaker 2: they played kan City and zone and held them to
- 44:22Speaker 2: what twenty points? Yeah? And here here. I don't think,
- 44:28Speaker 2: you know, if you talk about matchups, I think the
- 44:32Speaker 2: Jaguars defense matches up against kan City against their offense
- 44:37Speaker 2: very well, with the exception of Patrick Mahome, because nobody
- 44:41Speaker 2: matches up against him very well. He's that good. But
- 44:44Speaker 2: like from an individual standpoint, you look at the weapons
- 44:47Speaker 2: that they have, Kelsey being the only exception. Okay, everybody else,
- 44:52Speaker 2: you're okay with you can. I think you can handle
- 44:54Speaker 2: those guys, you know. I think that the Chiefs have
- 44:57Speaker 2: a matchup problem with the Jaguars. I think most teams
- 44:59Speaker 2: are going to have a matchup problem with the Jaguars.
- 45:01Speaker 2: High scoring sounds like to me, if you, I mean,
- 45:05Speaker 2: if you think, if you what was your be your
- 45:07Speaker 2: prediction right now score wise, total points score, I'm gonna
- 45:13Speaker 2: go thirty eight to thirty five. I'm thinking like seventy
- 45:16Speaker 2: points yep, you know, somewhere not range, you know, I
- 45:19Speaker 2: mean in the thirties. The only thing that may prohibit
- 45:23Speaker 2: seventy points is just the heat of the game. Yeah,
- 45:26Speaker 2: you know, taking a little bit out. But I mean,
- 45:29Speaker 2: I think this is like seventy points. I mean, this
- 45:30Speaker 2: is like a game in the thirties.
- 45:33Speaker 3: Time now for the injury report presented by Baptist Health
- 45:36Speaker 3: and the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider
- 45:41Speaker 3: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Thursday report for the Jags
- 45:44Speaker 3: is out. Have not seen one for the Chiefs as
- 45:46Speaker 3: of yet. The Jaguars have five players on the list
- 45:49Speaker 3: this week. Antonio Johnson is not practiced yesterday or today.
- 45:53Speaker 3: The rookie safety. It could be a week or so,
- 45:56Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. Maybe we'll see how that goes.
- 45:58Speaker 3: Gregory Junior was injured in the game with a hamstring issue.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Has not practiced yesterday or today. Brandon Sheriff, right guard
- 46:07Speaker 3: ankle injury limited today. That's improvement. He did not practice
- 46:11Speaker 3: on Wednesday. He was back out there on Thursday. Luke
- 46:15Speaker 3: Fortner senter ankle injury limited today. He was out yesterday.
- 46:20Speaker 3: That's improvement. Tyler Lacey, the rookie defensive lineman with a
- 46:23Speaker 3: hip issue limited, so that's good news for the offensive lineman.
- 46:28Speaker 3: Sheriff and Fortner moving in the right direction at least
- 46:31Speaker 3: maybe to go on Sunday.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Well, you hope, but you want them to be able
- 46:36Speaker 2: to play, but then also play better. You know, they've
- 46:39Speaker 2: got to take a step up this week. And Sheriff
- 46:43Speaker 2: I was kind of concerned about during that game. You know,
- 46:45Speaker 2: he goes down and it was like like.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Just the way he went down, like up in the
- 46:50Speaker 3: air and then wasn't moving and everybody's waving for the
- 46:53Speaker 3: athletic trainers.
- 46:54Speaker 2: It's like, oh man, this is really bad, right the
- 46:57Speaker 2: cart off, Yeah, carted them off. And then he comes
- 46:59Speaker 2: back in the game and he's limited in practice today.
- 47:03Speaker 2: First of all, he's incredibly tough because he was able
- 47:06Speaker 2: to play last year with a core injury that most
- 47:09Speaker 2: people wouldn't even think about trying to play, but he
- 47:13Speaker 2: was able to play. I mean, so he's tough, and
- 47:17Speaker 2: he's definitely a leader of that group, and if they're
- 47:19Speaker 2: going to take a step up, then you know he
- 47:21Speaker 2: needs to be a part of that. But yeah, I
- 47:24Speaker 2: hope that everybody's good to go so that they can
- 47:27Speaker 2: take a step up in performance this week.
- 47:31Speaker 3: Got to have it this week, and what a scene
- 47:33Speaker 3: it should be and that we'll hear from Doug Peterson
- 47:36Speaker 3: coming up on that scene as well, home opener for
- 47:38Speaker 3: the Jaguars The Doug Peterson Show. Moments ahead, we're gonna
- 47:41Speaker 3: hear from Iron Eagle as well NFL on CBS play
- 47:44Speaker 3: by play announcer. He and Charles Davis have the call
- 47:46Speaker 3: of the game Evan Washburn on the sideline. We'll hear
- 47:49Speaker 3: from Iron and get his thoughts on where the Jaguars are.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Are they ready for the big time? Well, this would
- 47:54Speaker 3: be a step in the right direction.
- 47:55Speaker 2: We'll hear who's he calling the game with Charles Davis? Okay,
- 47:58Speaker 2: Charles a good guy. Yeah, been around a long time. Absolutely.
- 48:02Speaker 2: I met him in New York back in eighty nine.
- 48:05Speaker 2: Probably probably back in a while, it makes sense. Yep,
- 48:09Speaker 2: we've been around a long time too. He's good, good,
- 48:11Speaker 2: very good.
- 48:11Speaker 3: Broadcast full podcast coming up, I believe Saturday on the
- 48:16Speaker 3: Official Jaguars Podcast Network. We'll get Iron's thoughts. He's covered
- 48:19Speaker 3: so many Jaguars games over the years. Been with the
- 48:22Speaker 3: CBS since nineteen ninety eight, which is hard to believe.
- 48:25Speaker 3: He's a rating Sportscaster of the Year, National Sportscaster of
- 48:28Speaker 3: the Year, Wow. So he's had a big year, a
- 48:31Speaker 3: lot going on for him.
- 48:32Speaker 2: What team would this be considered for CBS? Probably the
- 48:37Speaker 2: number two team, number two, Nanton Romo, number one with
- 48:40Speaker 2: Tracy Well, okay, I was just kind of curious about
- 48:42Speaker 2: that man, and where are they at this week? I
- 48:44Speaker 2: don't know, I didn't look, I mean, because I mean,
- 48:47Speaker 2: there's no no idea. I mean, the reason I asked
- 48:50Speaker 2: that is because of the games on CBS and the
- 48:55Speaker 2: there's no affiliation with AFC and CBS, Fox and the
- 49:01Speaker 2: NFC anymore. They everybody's kind of going all over the place,
- 49:06Speaker 2: and so I was just kind of curious, would it
- 49:09Speaker 2: be a Fox game that Romo would be at.
- 49:12Speaker 3: No, No, No, they're still They're still on CBS. But
- 49:14Speaker 3: they're doing the Jets, Jets Cowboys.
- 49:17Speaker 2: That's what I mean. An NFC at Cowboys, which I'm
- 49:20Speaker 2: sure they're sitting there going Jets Cowboys. There's no Aaron Rodgers.
- 49:26Speaker 2: But it's America's team. It is. They get big ratings
- 49:29Speaker 2: and it's a New York market and they're one and
- 49:33Speaker 2: oh they beat the hell out of the Giants. Did
- 49:37Speaker 2: you watch that game? About half of it? And then
- 49:40Speaker 2: I was like, what am I doing? Why am I
- 49:42Speaker 2: watching this? Would you have watched the whole thing of
- 49:44Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers played? No, I'm talking about the Cowboys game. No, No,
- 49:47Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Jets game Monday night. Did you
- 49:49Speaker 2: watch that game? Well? I turned it on after the
- 49:50Speaker 2: fact I didn't have it on it here. I didn't
- 49:52Speaker 2: get on until after the factors. Well, and then then
- 49:55Speaker 2: I turned it off. Total bummer that he went down,
- 49:59Speaker 2: crazy game at the end.
- 50:01Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we've got an instant classic this Sunday coming up.
- 50:05Speaker 3: I hope so for from our perspective, a winning result
- 50:08Speaker 3: would be nice and our perspective, hey, stay tuned. The
- 50:12Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show is coming up in mere moments. Thank
- 50:15Speaker 3: you for listening. The Jaguars Happy Hour