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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Happy Veteran's Day! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Happy Veterans Day.
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Thank you to all those who have served.
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We're going live now.
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I love the chase and the hunt.
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And I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want.
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And I always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank.
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No, I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted.
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Stay humble.
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Now wake up.
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror.
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If he is no friend to me.
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What is going on, everybody?
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It's lunchtime.
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Happy Veterans Day.
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I want to thank everybody who has or
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is serving in the service for us in
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this country.
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I appreciate you so much.
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Lately, because I'm older,
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my daughter has moved away.
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There's not as much going on.
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We've been looking for ways to kind of
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give back.
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And I found a site where I can
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write letters,
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cards and stuff to people in the service.
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And I've been doing that for the last
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couple of months, just in my free time,
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taking a couple of minutes to send
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birthday cards and holiday cards.
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We've even sent care packages overseas to
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those deployed.
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It's been a way that we can give
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back.
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I really do appreciate everybody who has
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served.
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It was a way that I found that
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was easy for my wife and I to
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kind of get involved a little bit.
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So that's been really awesome.
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And
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just a way to kind of fill my
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day a little more productively, I guess.
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Um, so yeah, fun stuff.
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I heard Siobhan say that I was going
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to talk about Tyson Bajan being on his
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show as he was going off the air
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today.
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It's hard for me not to talk about
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Tyson Bajan because I am such a big
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Chicago Bears fan.
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And when he's on,
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you learn so much about what kind of
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goes on behind the scenes that
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It's very much like people that dive into
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Savant's behind-the-scenes work, right?
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They want to see what's going on behind
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the scenes at the games,
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understand why they do it,
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understand where the athlete's mindset is,
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all those kinds of things.
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And when Tyson comes on there,
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he gives us a peek into things that
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I've never,
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ever seen done by the NFL itself.
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Because Tyson is so frank and so honest
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about what he talks about.
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The whole mental health aspect that he was
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talking about today,
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where when they show up,
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you're so overwhelmed and you are met in
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your rookie year by mental health experts
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saying, hey, these are the things we see.
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We know you're going to be overwhelmed.
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We're here to help.
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That stuff just blows my mind.
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A couple of years ago,
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I had James Townsend on who was signed
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by the Bears and
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as well and he ended up walking away
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from the nfl because um of stresses that
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were going on in his life and i'm
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just wondering i'd love to get hit talk
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to him again about maybe those programs
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weren't in place back then um
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that they are now.
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And, uh,
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so those are the things that I just,
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I love to hear from Tyson.
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Um, I just love to,
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cause that is my favorite team in the
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world of all, um,
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of all sports and to get a peek
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in behind the curtain of that team.
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Uh,
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it's just one of my favorite things to
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watch.
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Uh, so yeah, I was,
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I was tuned in as soon as he
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came on today, uh,
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and watch the whole thing.
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And, uh,
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Really, really enjoyed it.
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And, uh, Jay Birch says, yeah,
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especially with the recent death of the
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Cowboys player.
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Yeah.
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The details of that are wild.
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Um, that he was in a police chase,
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uh, and then took his own life.
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Um, and he's so young, like what,
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you just don't know what pressures people
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are under.
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Right.
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Um,
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So, yeah, it's good to know,
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and I don't know if it's just the
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Bears that have that approach when the
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rookies show up to have mental health
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experts greet them as they come in the
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building, or if that's an NFL-wide thing.
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It'd be interesting to know.
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But Tyson's the only one that really gives
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us that peek into what happens behind the
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scenes.
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maybe there's other players on other shows
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that i just don't know about um but
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tyson not only goes on with savan but
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he goes on podcasts around the chicago
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bear community a lot he's very very well
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liked loved um by the chicago bear
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community and the media there because he's
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so accessible and so upfront and honest
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about everything that he's on podcasts
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around the bears all the time um
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And so it's just wild that we get
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that peak.
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So that's all I wanted to say.
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And I wasn't on yesterday.
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The Bears,
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what they've been doing this season.
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the vibes of a six and three season
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are so much different than where I've been
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in the past with this team.
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Um, it's been a long time since we've,
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um, we made it in the playoffs.
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Um, we made it in twenty twenty,
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but it was like back door our way
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in.
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Um, I, I,
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I almost don't know how to act on
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a Sunday anymore with the Bears because
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I'm so used to just kind of, um,
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anticipating losing um and even sunday
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when they were down by ten points i
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thought yeah this is over we're probably
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done and to come back in the last
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four minutes of the game score two
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touchdowns and win the game was remarkable
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and something i'm definitely not used to
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or or um
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acclimated to at all um it's really hard
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for me to uh expect that but uh
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it is it is fun so so there's
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that and that's probably all i'm going to
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talk about there but um but yeah so
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is anybody doing chad today
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It is Veterans Day.
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I know that it has become typically the
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big day to do a thousand step-ups for
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time.
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I have so much going on today.
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Last year I did half Chad from where
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I was.
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Physically, that's what I could do.
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So I don't know.
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Maybe I'll do it today.
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Maybe I'll do part of it today.
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Um, I've got, I've got to,
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I actually have to end the show a
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little bit early today.
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I have a mechanic coming to work on
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my one car and I have a business
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meeting at one.
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So, uh, I've got to do that.
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Um, uh,
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Corey Leonard done Chad once in twenty
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twenty three.
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I'm good unless they program it at a
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comp.
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I'm in, uh,
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Vicki coach is programming it for this
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weekend.
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Okay.
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It's tough being in the middle of the
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week.
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You'd hate to do Chad and then try
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to go back to work tomorrow and walk
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around an office or something like that.
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John George, my gym programmed it.
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My knees very clearly said not a chance
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if you want to participate the rest of
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the week.
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So squat clean ladder instead.
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Um, Jay Birch, probably not this year.
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I don't have my stepstool.
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Uh, Eric Mackey partner version today.
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That's, that's a good idea.
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Partnered up, um, do that.
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Uh,
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Mike DeVito hardest part of chat is
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keeping count.
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Ain't that the truth?
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Yeah, it's funny.
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Jay Birch last year, if I remember,
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had a step stool.
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The thing was really narrow at the top.
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Can't believe he was doing that.
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He deserves extra credit for a degree of
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difficulty for sure on that.
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Last year,
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I just did the stairs in my basement,
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and I just kept going up stairs.
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and down off of the stairs um most
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of them i tried to do two steps
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at a time um some i just did
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one but that's that's just where i was
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with my fitness last year um but we'll
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see i don't really have anything on the
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docket till i get through these
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appointments coreland keeping count was
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terrible it's way more of a mental test
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than anything else yeah i can see that
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Vicki, putting it out there,
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if anybody wants to do their version via
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video together this weekend, let me know.
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Sounds fun.
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Probably the hardest part is doing it
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alone.
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I think it would be better at a
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gym where you can hang out with others
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and kind of get through it.
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Yeah.
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uh the military doesn't doesn't have the
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same status as it seems to have in
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the us always weird if they program it
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in my box uh mike devito never chat
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alone always use the buddy system yeah
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yeah sounds good um
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one topic i did want to talk about
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today a little bit is if you were
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with us on the sunday show at all
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i talked about watching the rock and roll
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hall of fame inductions um that happened
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over the weekend and how much i enjoyed
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some of the performances um with salt and
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peppa and in vogue coming out uh the
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sound garden piece was good uh the white
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stripes piece was good um
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The Outcast piece was really good.
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Other than Doja Cat,
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she ruined Miss Jackson pretty bad.
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That performance,
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but the rest of it was really good.
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And I still have not seen the end
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of it,
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which is Cyndi Lauper and Joe Cocker.
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But the one thing that kind of came
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up with me watching it is,
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and the thing that I hate the most
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about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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is they wait so long to induct people
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that the bands can't even perform.
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um because like bad company they had one
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surviving member at the rock and roll hall
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of fame induction ceremony the drummer the
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lead singer's health didn't allow him to
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travel so he came in by video and
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and the rest of them have all passed
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on at this point so they're inducted in
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the hall of fame but it's like
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posthumously and what fun is that you
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don't get to see them perform
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And it, the tributes are great.
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Like seeing other people perform their
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songs and how well they do is, is,
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is fun,
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but it's not the same as getting a
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chance to see them one last time as
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they kind of get into the hall of
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fame.
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Um,
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And then you have people like outcast with
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big boy and Andre three thousand being at
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a, in a beef refusing to perform together.
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So big boy performed with celebrities and
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you get kind of a, uh,
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kind of get a a mix of of
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the the real person and some celebrities
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and it was good it was great i
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love i love outcast i think what they
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brought to music in the early two
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thousands of southern hip-hop was was
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awesome and uh but it's sad that andre
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three thousand refused to perform um so uh
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jody lopper cocker sounds brutal both so
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old no offense to them but they are
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beyond their performing years
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I agree.
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I have not liked performances by Cyndi
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Lauper in a few years.
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Again,
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it's another thing where she was big in
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the eighties.
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It's taken this long to get her into
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the rock and roll hall of fame.
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And,
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and wouldn't it have been better when she
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was vocally more sound?
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Joe Cocker was famous in the seventies and
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now he's finally getting in.
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I don't even know if he's still alive.
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I need to watch the end of the
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show to even see.
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I love old Joe Cocker.
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He's on my workout mix a lot.
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But I don't know if even if he
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is alive,
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that the performance now would be that
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great.
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Vicky, agree, Jody.
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Cindy performed at New York Rock and Eve
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every few years ago, and it was rough.
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Yeah,
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she has not been great the last few
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times I've seen her on anything.
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So I'm not sure I'm...
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Looking forward to that,
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probably why I haven't got to the end
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of it.
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I saw Soundgarden.
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I saw The White Stripes.
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I saw Outkast.
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I saw Salt-N-Pepa and Bad Company.
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Those are the ones I really,
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really wanted to see.
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Sorry about that.
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Cocker is one of the best at doing
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covers of already great songs and making
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them better.
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I think he's doing well.
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Feeling All Right is my favorite song by
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him.
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He's known for a little help with my
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friends, a little help from my friends.
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But yeah, he's great.
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Great.
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what this did is um it actually created
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a comment on youtube that i wanted to
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kind of discuss today and maybe we'll
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bring it up again this sunday with the
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with the ladies um and so here i'm
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going to share my screen uh craig pasley
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put into the comment section uh scott i
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just thought about a show topic based on
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this discussion about the rock
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Music Hall of Fame,
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how some bands and singers do not become
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inducted members until later in life or
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past life.
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Show topic.
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If CrossFit started an elite athlete,
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including teen, masters, team, individual,
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Hall of Fame,
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and only one or two male and one
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or two female were allowed acceptance each
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year,
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how long would it be before some like
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Dallin, team multiple champion, Jason,
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and Laura were inducted?
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And I started to think about this.
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If only one or two members from each
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side, men and women,
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were accepted at a time,
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how long would it take?
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I think it really varies with each person
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you're talking about.
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One.
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Two,
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I think that CrossFit is so young that
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we don't really know the eras yet.
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When you talk about the Baseball Hall of
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Fame, there are the pitching eras.
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There are the steroid era.
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There is the hitting era.
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And then you can kind of tabulate how
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a person has done in each era.
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I think CrossFit is still in a place
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in establishing those.
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And so it's really hard to then judge
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who should or who should not be in
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after you get past the obvious ones,
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right?
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There are like a handful of obvious people
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that need to be in immediately if there
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was a Hall of Fame.
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And then it is like,
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how did they do against their eras?
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Because you could look at like a Graham
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Holmberg, who in his era...
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the level of athlete wasn't what it has
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been for Dallin and Jason.
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So Jason's a games champion,
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elite division.
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Graham's a games champion, elite division.
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How do you compare the two at this
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point?
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Because I think time will tell us that
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we're in a golden era of the athlete
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in CrossFit right now.
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with as deep as the men's field is
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and so i think a championship during this
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this time in a few years is going
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to look way more impressive than a
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championship that like jason kalipa had or
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graham holmberg had and i think at this
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point we're just looking at them as og
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legends and we hold them to this highest
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esteem if we've been around the sport for
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a long time
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And they were influencers.
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And like the Rock and Roll Hall of
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Fame has that.
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You can go in as a performer or
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you can go in as an influencer.
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Salt-N-Pepa and OutKast went in as
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influencers, not as performers.
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where like Bad Company Soundgarden went in
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as performers.
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They looked at Salt-N-Pepa and Outkast as
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more like they created a genre.
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The female rap thing, Salt-N-Pepa,
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were the first to kind of break that
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barrier down where...
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Outcast were the first Southern hip hop
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rap that kind of came around.
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So like,
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I would look at like Graham and Kalipa
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as influencers.
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They kind of started the sport and they
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be, they made it popular.
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And then now you look at today's era
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and now it's about the performance on the
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floor.
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And so it's an interesting debate and an
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interesting conversation for sure.
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And I think when you look at the
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women's side,
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it's a whole lot different because I don't
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think it's quite as deep and it's had...
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and I don't think it it's had the,
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how do I say this?
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There's been a lot of people like dropping
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out of the women's side.
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So their careers are not as long.
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So I think it gets a lot more
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complicated on that side.
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So, um, uh, David Reed,
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a champion is a champion.
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I don't agree.
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I don't agree.
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Um,
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But it's all the things that have to
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be factored in, right?
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When did they do it?
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Who were they up against?
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Who did they compete against?
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Jody, inducted as influencers,
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not musicians.
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That's the way the Rock and Roll Hall
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of Fame breaks it down.
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They have people who...
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And there are people that get in that
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influencer category that may be a bass
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player that was a session musician that
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affected a lot of people that you may
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never have heard of,
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but they influenced how bass was played.
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And so it's a different thing with...
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And music is not,
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you don't have winners and losers in
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music.
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You just put out stuff and people either
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like it or they don't.
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It's much more subjective.
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So it lends itself more to some things
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like that.
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Where CrossFit,
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it's just so young that we don't really,
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we don't know enough yet.
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David coming in strong with a year of
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one hundred percent wrong.
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You were saying that Bill Russell is not
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as good as LeBron.
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Insane take.
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I that's maybe not the comparison I would
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make in my head.
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I was thinking.
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It may be the opposite,
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like a champion in baseball in the
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nineteen twenties when there were only
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eight to ten teams meant more than a
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championship in the two thousands where
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there's thirty teams and the talent is
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spread out over way more teams.
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And so that's what I that's where I
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would say there's a difference in champion
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to champion.
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And I think basketball has been good in
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the United States for a very long time.
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There's also,
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there was a period of time where sports
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didn't allow people of different
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ethnicities and colors into the sport.
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And how do you judge that when the
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best weren't allowed to play?
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Yeah.
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So that would not include a Bill Russell
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era.
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And there's debates as to the player.
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Bill Russell was on a great team that
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won a lot of championships.
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But individually,
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did he ever have to carry that team?
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There's so many factors into this,
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David Reed.
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You can't make a blanket statement that a
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champion is a champion.
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There's arguments in the nineteen nineties
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that the Houston Rockets were not the
22:35
champions that the Chicago Bulls were
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because Michael Jordan stepped away.
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Wayne Short,
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you can't judge an athlete against a
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standard that didn't exist when they
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played.
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David Reed Graham won the games.
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He's on that mountain with all the rest.
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In fact,
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I would say it was harder since that
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era had jobs.
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Every argument you make,
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I can make a counter argument.
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Like Jason Kalipa didn't have to qualify
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to go to the games.
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He just had to sign up.
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It was a three event games back then.
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Like it's just different.
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It's different.
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I think the pressure today is, is more.
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So I think in a couple of years,
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we're going to look at the era we're
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in now,
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as if you can win a championship during
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this time with this many great athletes,
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it's going to hold up more than it
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did.
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Um,
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than some of the older eras.
24:05
The beauty of sports,
24:06
we can all pass judgment.
24:07
Well, that's why sports is great.
24:10
Because everybody has a different opinion.
24:13
And that's why we have shows like this,
24:17
to be able to talk this out.
24:19
And that's the beauty of it.
24:27
Tristan,
24:27
the era was absolutely not harder because
24:29
they had jobs.
24:31
The fact you can make the games with
24:33
a job proves it was easier.
24:39
And David said, we can agree to disagree.
24:43
Yeah, and that's the beauty of this.
24:45
We can debate this out.
24:48
So the examples that Craig gave in the
24:51
comment were Dallin, Jason, and Laura.
24:54
I think at this point where we're at
24:56
today,
24:57
Laura has had the longest career of those
25:00
in the elite division.
25:02
She has run from two thousand eighteen to
25:05
today and she has stood on the podium
25:08
a handful of times with one championship.
25:12
And I would argue she's the second
25:13
greatest champion,
25:16
the second greatest CrossFit female
25:18
athlete that we have seen.
25:20
That's very debatable against any.
25:23
The numbers are really close,
25:25
but I would say that those two are
25:26
there.
25:36
Savan, champions had to fight so hard.
25:38
It's crazy what it takes to win every
25:40
game since twenty eighteen or twenty two
25:42
thousand eight.
25:44
I don't disagree with that statement.
25:46
I do think it's you.
25:47
You still have to have a champion's
25:48
mindset to win.
25:51
But I think when you're doing a comparison
25:54
as to who is the greatest of all
25:55
time,
25:56
you have to look at the era that
25:57
they did it in and who the competition
26:00
was at the time.
26:08
So...
26:10
then when you look at Dallin and Jason,
26:12
I think that their numbers are going to
26:13
look better in a few years.
26:16
One, they're very new to the sport.
26:19
Jason was what?
26:20
Twenty twenty one when he first qualified
26:22
for the games.
26:23
Dallin was twenty twenty two when he first
26:28
made it to the games.
26:28
So, yeah.
26:36
I think that you're going to see that
26:38
in a few years as their careers go
26:40
on a little bit longer.
26:47
Savon,
26:47
what Mikko did in two thousand nine was
26:49
superhuman.
26:50
I'm not I think we're debating two
26:51
separate things, Savon.
26:53
I think we're looking at who the greatest
26:55
of all time was in my conversation.
26:57
I don't disagree that people winning the
26:59
games in two thousand.
27:02
seven through two thousand twelve weren't
27:05
superhuman or didn't do amazing things i
27:08
do think they did that but when you're
27:10
comparing the greatest of all time you
27:13
have to look at the era in which
27:14
they did it and who they did it
27:17
against it's the only way we can truly
27:21
compare because
27:26
In prime Matt Frazier never went against
27:28
in prime Rich Froning.
27:31
So that leaves this debate that's been
27:33
hanging out there for years.
27:36
In prime Graham never went up against in
27:38
prime Jason Hopper.
27:40
So we're never going to know what that
27:42
was if all things being equal.
27:45
So you have to look at other factors
27:48
around it to see who you think might
27:51
have been better.
28:03
Corey Leonard,
28:03
a lot of those old games workouts don't
28:05
hold up today because they, Dave,
28:07
mostly we're still figuring out how to
28:09
test for the fittest as the athletes
28:11
evolve.
28:12
So did the tests.
28:15
But I could also argue,
28:16
this is where it's crazy, Corey.
28:17
I could also argue against the fact that
28:20
they were harder back then because they
28:23
didn't understand it as much.
28:25
As they were trying to figure it out,
28:27
they may have over-programmed something
28:28
and not realized they had done it.
28:33
And I think it was probably more unknown
28:37
and unknowable back then because there
28:39
wasn't twenty years of history to look at
28:42
and say,
28:48
wasn't twenty years of history to try to
28:49
figure out a pattern or a piece they
28:53
back in the early days they truly did
28:56
not know was what was coming at them
28:59
they had no idea us in here is
29:07
asking kenneth is asking who is the best
29:10
to never win one i'd have to think
29:12
about that there's a lot of candidates for
29:14
that
29:18
Dallin has done more than Laura.
29:21
That I disagree with.
29:25
Dallin is a three-time champ in the teen
29:27
division.
29:30
And the teen division in the men's side,
29:33
to me,
29:34
has never really proven to be like the
29:39
incubator for the elite division,
29:41
like the female side has.
29:44
A lot of the females who have done
29:45
well on the teen side have moved into
29:49
the elite division kind of seamlessly.
29:53
Dallin is really the only male who has
29:56
done that with some success so far.
30:00
Um, now we're,
30:01
we have to wait on tie.
30:03
We have to wait on Nate Ackerman and
30:05
see what those guys do.
30:07
Uh, but the other,
30:08
the next person I would say that it
30:09
was as popular,
30:10
it was good as Dallin was Angelo to
30:12
Chico who never saw the individual success
30:15
in the elite division that Dallin even has
30:19
at this point.
30:20
Um, so yeah,
30:27
Sprague and Austin have done it well too.
30:30
Did Austin do well in the teen division?
30:35
Justin, Justin never did,
30:37
made it in the teen division.
30:39
He never, never qualified.
30:44
So, um, um, so yeah,
30:57
sorry my mechanic is texting me and i'm
31:00
he just said he's going to be delayed
31:01
so i could stay a little bit longer
31:04
uh sorry uh vicky i agree steve on
31:09
dallin contributes to the space she
31:11
doesn't okay that's another factor into
31:14
hall of fame if you're talking hall of
31:15
fame and greatest ever are we talking
31:17
about what happens off the floor
31:19
we talking about what happens on the floor
31:22
there are some sports when they make their
31:23
hall of fame it the off the floor
31:26
stuff does not matter oj simpson is still
31:29
in the football hall of fame so that's
31:37
a criteria that would have to be discussed
31:43
This is a great example, Mark Phillips.
31:45
I thought Nick Palladino was going to be
31:46
the next Frazier.
31:47
Oh, well, there's a lot of those.
31:50
Dre Strom, he killed the teen division.
31:54
Nick Palladino,
31:56
they never amounted to much on the
31:58
individual side at all.
32:06
Klanda,
32:07
would you or should you look at
32:09
non-crossfit events when you make this
32:11
list?
32:12
I think you can look at those events,
32:15
but I think it's become obvious in the
32:16
last twelve months that the games matter
32:20
way more than anything else.
32:21
Your performance in the game season
32:23
matters more.
32:24
Your performance at the CrossFit Games
32:26
matters more.
32:27
It's what everybody is striving for and
32:30
how you compare to your peers at the
32:34
highest level is what matters most in the
32:37
CrossFit Games are the highest level.
32:47
And there's a reason fewer men haven't
32:49
made the leap.
32:54
So it's a great it's I think it
32:57
was a great question that Craig posed and
33:00
really with a lot of thought.
33:03
we've done shows where we've picked like
33:05
who would be the initial four or five
33:08
to get into a hall of fame.
33:10
And I think that's a lot easier than
33:12
looking at who's currently out there and
33:14
how do they compare against the legends
33:17
and
33:19
Because I would say that the golden era
33:21
before what we're seeing now on the men's
33:24
division was that like two thousand nine
33:27
to two thousand fourteen.
33:30
I think that's where the growth of the
33:31
sport was the biggest.
33:33
That's when the people did the most for
33:36
CrossFit while competing at the CrossFit
33:40
Games.
33:40
And that was like the golden era.
33:43
But I think you're getting almost a second
33:45
version of that now with Dallin and Justin
33:50
and Jason and James doing the podcast,
33:55
letting you in, seeing behind the curtain.
33:59
Justin doing the affiliate tour.
34:02
Justin going to military bases with Dave.
34:06
You're starting to see them do the things
34:08
that the guys in the...
34:11
golden era that we call that two thousand
34:14
nine to two thousand fourteen era.
34:17
They're starting to do those things.
34:20
James doing open announcements from the
34:22
Air Force Base.
34:24
All of those things were things you saw
34:25
Rich and Dan Bailey and Graham and all
34:29
those guys do back in Matt Chan.
34:32
All those guys do back in that golden
34:34
era of CrossFit.
34:37
And so I think if we give that
34:39
a few more years,
34:41
that the look at who is the best
34:44
all time is going to vary because these
34:48
guys have learned what Colton has done for
34:51
the sport, how to expand it.
34:53
The guy that the little engine that could,
34:55
the person that everybody doubted,
34:57
the person that nobody thought could make
34:59
it to the games and what he's done
35:01
for the underdog.
35:03
We are in a true new era.
35:10
Chan is not a Hall of Fame.
35:12
I agree.
35:13
He's not a Hall of Famer.
35:14
But he was part of that golden era
35:17
where the athletes were red shirts.
35:19
They were traveling the world,
35:22
preaching the gospel of CrossFit.
35:24
They were doing everything they could to
35:26
grow not only the sport,
35:28
but the methodology.
35:32
So that's why I brought him up.
35:39
Aaron Frazier, that's a good name for now.
35:44
The era of machines.
35:46
That's where we're at.
35:48
Power output machines.
35:50
That's the era we're in now.
35:52
Hopefully we can change that narrative.
35:56
And I don't want to just put like,
35:58
I think we're in a new golden era
35:59
with the men.
35:59
I think there's a group of women doing
36:01
the same thing.
36:03
I think Ariel Lowen is trying to do
36:05
that.
36:06
I think like the Lucy Campbells are trying
36:08
to do that.
36:09
I think they're starting to see the beauty
36:12
of connecting with the community as much
36:16
as the men are as well.
36:22
So, but I think it's a great discussion,
36:24
a great discussion to have.
36:26
We'll probably bring it up again on Sunday
36:28
night CrossFit because I'd like to get
36:29
Jamie and Carolyn's perspective on this
36:34
just to kind of see if,
36:38
how they view this as well.
36:40
And I love the input you guys gave
36:42
today.
36:45
But I've got a low one is connecting.
36:53
I see what you're saying.
36:56
She's connecting with the community,
36:58
but she's not.
37:00
If she opens that affiliate,
37:03
then I think that's a step in the
37:05
right direction.
37:09
Once they finish that barn gym,
37:10
and if that becomes a true open to
37:13
the public affiliate,
37:15
then I think that is the step in
37:17
the right direction.
37:24
Jody says, good topic for sure.
37:27
Siobhan says, disconnecting.
37:36
How so, Siobhan?
37:40
Why I don't understand the comment.
37:50
Kenneth,
37:50
the lab says she's connecting with a niche
37:52
corner of the community.
37:56
If that's true, Kenneth,
37:57
a niche of a niche is not awesome.
38:04
Aaron Frazier.
38:05
She worked out in an affiliate before she
38:06
moved to her gym,
38:07
feeling like she left the community.
38:14
Yeah.
38:14
And I don't know,
38:15
I don't know the reason behind that.
38:17
Um, yeah,
38:26
I think truly it depends on when she
38:30
finishes this gym,
38:32
she has said it's going to be an
38:33
affiliate.
38:33
It's going to be where she coaches and
38:35
it's going to be,
38:37
so she will be back into the community.
38:41
Um,
38:43
I think that that makes a huge difference
38:45
right there.
38:54
David Reed,
38:54
a loud niche corner who want undefined
38:58
change.
39:01
Want change.
39:04
Okay.
39:13
people's character truly shows itself
39:14
during hard times okay uh Chris
39:26
Easterfield I don't think anybody in this
39:29
chat is debating that Rich Froning would
39:31
be one of the initial inductees into a
39:33
hall of fame um
39:39
I think that the top of the top
39:41
and who would be the initial class of
39:43
a hall of fame would be is way
39:45
easier than when you get like five, six,
39:49
seven deep and where you go with that.
39:56
Mike DeVito.
39:57
Yes.
39:57
Let's not forget the community part of it.
39:59
Great or not working out in your garage
40:01
makes you different.
40:02
Not saying never allowed in a hall of
40:04
fame,
40:04
but it should be something to take into
40:07
account.
40:11
Again,
40:12
it all depends on your definition of your
40:14
hall of fame.
40:16
There are sports hall of fames that truly
40:19
only look at what happens on the
40:21
competition floor.
40:24
there are other sports that factor in what
40:29
happens off of the competition floor.
40:32
So if you're, if you're making it,
40:35
if you're making this hall of fame that
40:36
does not exist at this point,
40:39
when you define it, you need to define,
40:42
this is someone who has contributed both
40:45
on and off the floor, um,
40:49
for the betterment of CrossFit.
40:51
And because CrossFit is more than a sport,
40:53
it would make sense if I were creating
40:56
a Hall of Fame,
40:58
I would define it as both on and
41:00
off the floor.
41:10
Now,
41:11
Siobhan is a hundred percent accurate with
41:12
the true colors comment,
41:13
and that's so wildly important.
41:19
So I have feelings about that.
41:22
My feeling is that people react to hard
41:28
times differently,
41:31
and with that should be some grace and
41:36
some forgiveness.
41:39
If we're talking about Lazar's death at
41:41
the games, I mean, I was there.
41:43
I was going through that,
41:45
and it was hard.
41:48
It was hard,
41:48
and I honestly did not know how to
41:51
react.
41:52
I didn't know how to react.
41:55
I stayed.
41:56
I was there.
42:03
So, yeah, I don't know.
42:07
It's just...
42:09
But then there's the grieving process,
42:15
and at some point...
42:19
Do I agree with what the PFAA did?
42:21
No.
42:21
Do I agree with the letter that was
42:23
sent?
42:24
No.
42:25
All of that I do not agree with.
42:29
I'd love to hear the whys and why
42:31
people signed it,
42:32
and I don't think anybody has ever given
42:34
us that.
42:38
But in that moment, in that weekend,
42:40
that was a hard weekend.
42:43
I made the decision to stay.
42:44
I made the decision to cheer for the
42:46
athletes on the floor.
42:49
But I know other people didn't.
42:50
And I don't know their reasonings behind
42:53
that.
42:54
And because of my belief system,
42:57
I believe that they are afforded some
42:59
grace and some forgiveness.
43:01
But I don't.
43:06
Yeah, I don't know.
43:07
I'd love to hear more on that.
43:17
Jordan is great.
43:18
He's the greatest because he won with a
43:20
fever of a hundred and three.
43:25
Jordan never, Jordan refused to lose.
43:29
Jordan wasn't about winning.
43:30
He was about refusing to lose regardless
43:33
of the situation.
43:35
That's why he was great.
43:38
that is rich i saw rich at the
43:40
twenty fourteen regionals hacking up a
43:44
lung off the floor and still going toe
43:47
to toe with pancheck to get the win
43:50
at that regional um jenny it was an
43:57
emotional and reactionary demand i don't
43:59
disagree with that um but i would love
44:04
to hear the individual reasonings for
44:06
signing it
44:08
It's one thing to have a statement
44:10
prepared by one person,
44:12
but why were you the ones that signed
44:15
it?
44:26
And Mike DeVito,
44:26
I agree with you on this point.
44:29
It's not just that part of it.
44:30
It went from not knowing how to react
44:32
to using it as an excuse to call
44:34
for Dave's removal and push their agendas.
44:37
Yeah.
44:37
But if, but I don't,
44:40
that's where I don't get the connection
44:41
with Ariel and maybe I just don't know
44:43
enough.
44:44
I I've never seen her ask for Dave's
44:46
removal.
44:48
I,
44:50
and so that's the part I don't know.
44:53
And it may be just my own ignorance
44:55
in the subject.
45:08
Kenneth,
45:09
that statement pisses me off every time
45:11
someone says it.
45:19
People have died on racetracks.
45:20
People have died in other events.
45:23
And the sport goes on.
45:26
And I know that's cold and callous,
45:28
but it just is a fact.
45:33
Basketball players have died on the court.
45:35
You don't hear people saying...
45:39
That they had to walk over Len Bias
45:42
or they had to walk over Hank Gathers.
45:45
That's just stupid.
45:56
Sorry.
45:58
All right.
45:59
Well,
45:59
I've got to go for a business meeting
46:01
here in a second.
46:02
So with that, I'm going to go.
46:04
We'll pick this up tomorrow, I'm sure.
46:07
Corey the Cowboy will be on with me
46:08
tomorrow,
46:10
and we'll hit this probably again.
46:12
And then, again, this is a great subject.
46:14
We'll probably bring it up for Sunday
46:15
night.
46:16
With that,
46:17
we'll see everybody next time on Lunch
46:20
with the Clydesdale.
46:21
Bye, guys.