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Exposing the CCP's Totalitarian Control Over Hollywood w/ Tiffany Meier · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. In America, we've seen over the past couple of decades, and especially the past, say, five to ten years, we've seen our culture dramatically change. We've seen the values that America was founded on really spat on and discarded, and we've seen this whole new set of values come in that's promoting, you know, all kinds of weird gender ideology, you know, the just all kinds of just bad stuff actually, sexual freedom, the even pedophilia, the violence, drug abuse, and you go to Netflix and scroll through or you look at what the, you know, top artists are doing at the Grammys, and you can see that there's a dark agenda behind this. And we've oftentimes looked into understand, like, what is this a dark dark agenda?
• 0:50
  Who's behind it? Now my guest today, Tiffany Meyer, who you've probably seen, so she's the host of China in Focus. She's with the Epoch Times, and she also is hosting the evening news. So she was a producer of a new document documentary called Hollywood Takeover. So I'll play the trailer for you because it's a significant it's a significant and important documentary that highlights the amount of control the CCP has over Hollywood, but also why control over Hollywood is so important.
• 1:20
  And as Andrew Breitbart might once said that politics is downstream from culture. So they understand that, and they understand that the the power of controlling culture. So I'm gonna play the trailer for you for this document, and I'll be right back.
• 1:36
  Todd Callender: There's something magical about the movies that I just love.
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: Hollywood invented America to the world in the old days.
• 1:44
  Todd Callender: And as a medium, it's really powerful. But for some, that power isn't used for good.
• 1:54
  Speaker 4: Sure. Our way of life is being censored by the Chinese Communist Party.
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: They said, we get a lot of our money out of China. Is there any way you could make this movie a little bit more attractive to the Chinese?
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: Is it really just about money? Are there other parts at stake?
• 2:12
  Speaker 5: I had friends in Hollywood who said, this will kill your career. You won't get funding. They're afraid of even mentioning one line.
• 2:21
  Speaker 4: Chinese influence was playing into what we see in US films.
• 2:26
  Todd Callender: China said, you can't have that in there. And
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: Hollywood listened. Hollywood listened. This is insane. This is a joke. Right?
• 2:36
  Seth Holehouse: We raised our hand, and we dove right into it. But over time, all of us have been punched in the nose.
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: The Chinese Communist Party followed no rules. What's at stake?
• 2:48
  Speaker 5: The soul of the nation is at stake. We want indoctrination access to America. They could basically take over America without firing a shot because they control access to our minds. And we all know that their goal is global domination.
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: People have been brainwashed without knowing it.
• 3:12
  Seth Holehouse: So, folks, enjoy the interview with Tiffany Meyer. Tiffany, thank you so much for joining us today. It's a pleasure to have you on the show.
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's an honor to be with you.
• 3:24
  Seth Holehouse: So I've seen you all the time on on the evening news with NTD. You've got the China in Focus show. You've just released this new documentary. I think you're the the producer of. Is that right?
• 3:35
  You're the producer of
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: Yes. I'm like the host narrator slash one of the producers. We had like multiple roles. I think I was more of the like creative producer. Told them to change a lot of things.
• 3:50
  Seth Holehouse: Perfect. Of China sorry, Hollywood takeover, which we're gonna be diving into. I already played the introduction for folks in the the trailer there. And so I wanna just I wanna dive into this because, you know, most of audience knows I've been covering China for a very long time, and I'm consistently going back to that same thing, which is, like, this is the enemy we have to be focused on. I mean, a lot of people are focused on various you know, whether it's the the World Economic Forum or the bankers, and there's a lot of threats to America.
• 4:21
  But I I really believe the Chinese Communist Party is is the greatest threat to America and to our freedom. And so let's just let's just first start. What is it that led you to want to create a documentary highlighting China's control over Hollywood?
• 4:39
  Speaker 4: It's kind of multiple parts. One, as you mentioned, I host China in focus. So I'm always watching Communist China's influence in all sectors, especially because we started that show with the pandemic. At the time, didn't know it was a pandemic yet. So that whole thing unfolded, and then many people were suddenly like, wait.
• 4:56
  What is China? Right? Why does this country so far away actually have an impact on me as we were running out of face masks, all those things. And then my personally, I always loved movies, but I felt like throughout the years, they've changed. They didn't really feel like movies anymore.
• 5:11
  And I left theaters feeling more depressed instead of like hopeful. And then also, our company, especially over at the Epoch Times, they were starting to make documentaries. And so the CEO was like, hey. Why don't you make a documentary on communist Chinese communist party's influence and infiltration in the government? And I was like, no one's gonna watch that.
• 5:32
  But Hollywood is actually where most of its starts because it ties into the whole soft power thing. Right? So the Chinese communist party knew if you can control culture, eventually, you get to politics and everything. And so kind of all these different factors led to this film's idea. And then so we started shooting it in, I think, 2022, the fall, and then it just released.
• 5:56
  So it's been it's been a journey.
• 5:58
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, I'm sure. I think it was Andrew Breitbart who said that politics is downstream from culture, which is is really it's it's such an important thing because you know, here in America, our our culture has changed drastically in the last even the last five years, let alone the last twenty or thirty years, especially since we opened up to China. And I think for a lot of people, they've especially with the pandemic, they kind of came out of this this this kinda haze of, like, what is America now? And and now you're like Right. What are they teaching our kids in school?
• 6:29
  And what's like, what are they singing about in the music industry? And and they're they're really seeing it now. It's being uncovered. And so there's there's two there's two kind of aspects I wanna, you know, question you about with relation to what they're doing with Hollywood. So the from my understanding, there's there's one aspect of it, which is using Hollywood to create a favorable impression of of China, right, of the CCP, which and you focus a lot on that in the documentary.
• 6:56
  But we also know that Hollywood has been used as a tool to push a lot of Marxist ideas, a lot of very degenerate ideas. When I say Marxist ideas, I mean, you could even say that transgenderism, a lot of the LGBTQ movement, you know, I've interviewed Trevor Loudon a lot. These are all things that are rooted in lot of the Marxist ideology, And so you can see that Hollywood has been used as this great tool to undermine the the moral the morality of our culture here in America. And so first off, I guess, in terms of the, you know, creating this favorable impression of China, what do you think is the bigger picture behind that? And then I wanna jump into the the morality of it.
• 7:41
  Speaker 4: Right. So the Chinese Communist Party knows it's an illegitimate government or governing body. So we call it the Chinese regime. And with that, their biggest fear is their own people, the Chinese people realizing that they are illegitimate. And so everything is controlled and censored inside China.
• 7:59
  I'm sure everyone knows about the great firewall. Right? You can't even get access to the point where even students who get to America and go to the Ivy League schools, if you show them a picture of the tank man from Tiananmen Square, the massacre that happened and ask them what it is, they're like, oh, I don't know. Maybe like a parade, maybe like a party. They really don't know.
• 8:18
  Right? And that was a defining moment in current Chinese history. Right? But they don't even know that. So that's the extent of censorship that happens inside the country.
• 8:29
  Now with Hollywood and other mediums, they now make the whole world perceive communist China that way, and they squash the what's really happening. Right? So even in the pandemic, we don't know how many people died. We just know certain clips of where you see people jumping off of the buildings because that's how much despair they feel and how hopeless they feel because they've been locked down. There's no food, all of these different things.
• 8:56
  Or with the say the one child policy that's starting to kick in, you're seeing all these issues. So now the Chinese regime is like, you have to have three kids. It's like really pushing everyone to try and change the population, all these different things. We're not hearing those stories. And that's kind of the level of censorship that now we're seeing around the world.
• 9:14
  So basically, right, since 2012, we haven't seen a major studio come out with a movie with China as the villain. And then you think about that. Right? You go to the theaters, you see, say, Gravity, Sandra Bullock gets saved by the Chinese in space, not even the ones on the IS, not The US or the Russians. Right?
• 9:31
  The Chinese saver. And then 2012, the disaster film, like the end of the world movie. I don't know if people remember that one. Everyone gets saved because the Chinese regime had the foresight of building a massive art, probably with slave labor, but no one talks about that. Right?
• 9:47
  So then it's like you start getting these images of, oh, the Chinese Communist Party, you know, the China, they're kind of just like us, you know, maybe there's some human rights, what country doesn't have issues? And then you start whitewashing, if you will, what's happening over there. Meanwhile, there are so many reports of the horrific human rights abuses happening there, whether that's the Tibetans, the house Christians, the fallen gong, the Uighurs, right, they're in the news now, and you don't hear about that. And so that's starting to change all aspects, including the way laws and legislation are passed. So then you see, say, the UN voting and saying, oh, there's no human rights abuses happening in China.
• 10:27
  That's really all over the place, and that's really what we're up against.
• 10:33
  Seth Holehouse: And so and as for the other aspect of it, which is this the morality, and we've seen I mean, in a lot of ways, you could see that they're opening you know, openly pushing Satanism. I mean, you look at some of these Grammy award ceremonies, some of the the pop stars, even going to Netflix. You you scroll through Netflix, and it's Lucifer, and it just it's a very, very dark and evil agenda. And, you know, I I know that communism and and and of itself, it's really, you know, you'd say it's atheist, but if if you go back to Marx's original works, I mean, he talked a lot about God, and and it wasn't that he said there is no God. It was I will destroy God.
• 11:11
  Right? That was his perspective. I think that's an important thing to understand what's behind a lot of communism. And so what what role do you see the CCP having in the moral like, just the complete degradation of of the morality and the moral code of what's being pumped out by Hollywood and and the entertainment industry? Industry.
• 11:32
  Like, how does he how do you think the CCP's tentacles are intertwined with that?
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: Well, as you were mentioning, right, all the way back to Marx, he talks about God, but as you mentioned, destroying God, basically, on the side of Satan. And you see that in communism where they are an atheist country, but it's weird because basically they make everyone believe in the party. So that's like a kind of faith, but they go after actual faith. And the point of that is they want to not just destroy people's bodies but their souls, right? Because to people of faith, if they die, they don't really mind like sure that's not great, but you're like, my soul will live on, it's okay.
• 12:14
  They have a greater purpose. But the Chinese Communist Party, especially, and you saw that in Soviet in the Soviet Union as well. Right? They go after the people with the fear of death and they kill people, especially if you have faith. And they want to instill that fear so that you believe in the party.
• 12:34
  And that is the end all and be all of everything. And so they're really hard to get people and then control them, but then also destroy their souls so that the point that they feel hopeless and they will listen. Right? But then now you are seeing that all over and that ties into the Chinese communist regime's end goal of hegemony. Right?
• 12:55
  They wanna be the ultimate power And what that means is you can't have, say, two tigers on a mountain, right? You can't have two ruling powers. So what does that mean? It means the demise of The United States or the free world. And part of that is it ties into what's called unrestricted warfare or winning without fighting.
• 13:13
  And so what you do is you destroy a country from within. And by doing that, you turn people against each other. We're seeing very divisive times here in America, right, whether that's race, gender, politics, and you know, it's not you're an American, it's oh, you're a republican, you're a progressive, you're a left, you're this, you're that, right? It's like we don't remember what this United States, it's a United States where it started out as and instead now everything is kind of what you saw in the cultural revolution in China. People are turning against each other, friends are turning against each other.
• 13:47
  If you're a different color, you're something else, right, it's like oh, one of them has to be the oppressor. That's straight out of communist terminology, everything is a struggle and the reason is like the Chinese Communist Party or communism in general, it creates these conflicts, these struggles so that everything is getting destroyed and then the communist party comes in as like, oh, I'm gonna come and save the day. But that whole problem was started by them, But then it's been lost, right? So then what happens is whoever's left is like, we have to listen to this party, they saved us, they gave us food, forgetting that life used to be good when they were in charge and all these different aspects. So you're seeing that where it's creating this divisiveness, but also this like era of despair, if you will.
• 14:37
  Right? People look out the door, they feel hopeless. They're like, the economy's bad, education, no one knows what people are learning in school anymore. I turn on the TV, the news is depressing, the shows are depressing. Like, everything is really dampening people's spirits.
• 14:53
  And then imagine if you're a you don't even have to come in with an army. Right? It's like a country has already dissolved on its own and that's what ties into all of that because I think here in America, we think of the arts as say freedom of the arts, freedom of expression. But in China, since Mao, the Mao Zedong, the communist party founder, he's used art as a tool that serves the end goal of the party or the state. And so since then, it's been weaponized And that's one of the hard parts for people to realize.
• 15:26
  It's like the Chinese Communist Party is using this as a weapon, and then we're seeing the fallout of it as you were mentioning, right, our entertainment industry, everything.
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• 16:44
  I remember one of the quotes from the documentary that stood with me was something to the effect of, you know, Mao Zedong saying that there's no such thing as art for art's sake. Right? That there's art is there's always a purpose for the creation of art, which you could see that from his perspective, it was, you know, to control people and propaganda. And and one thing also is worth mentioning is that, I know that, you know, in in the documentary, you talk a lot about really what's happened since around that time of, you know, in the past couple of decades when there's this big shift with China never being a villain, etcetera. But even looking back in, you know, say, fifty years of filmmaking, when you think about movies about totalitarian governments, it's almost always the Nazis.
• 17:23
  You know, Schindler's List, you know, the the I think The Pianist was another one. It's it's always always always the the persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany. Like, those are the Hollywood blockbusters. You never ever see a a a big Hollywood movie about the Cultural Revolution or about the Hall Of De Mor, even the Soviet Union. Like, it doesn't it's really focused, it seems, on painting this terrible picture of what they call fascism, right, of what what, you know, what Hitler was as a fascist, but there's nothing about the hundred million plus that have been, you know, killed at the hands of communism.
• 17:59
  So it also makes me wonder how long this industry has actually been controlled and it and controlled in a way that it's only pointing towards one thing while hiding the other. Even the Nuremberg trials. It's like, well, where are the where are the trials of of the Khmer Rouge? Where are the trials to hold the, you know, communist leaders accountable? It was all you know, it was always they almost, like, they they used fascism in World War two and that story as the big bogeyman.
• 18:25
  Right? Even when Trump was coming into office and saying he's a Nazi. He's he's Hitler. All the words and the terminology they used was were were tied to that. Why not say that he's a Stalin or he's a a Mao.
• 18:37
  Right? Because it didn't fit their narrative. I just find it to be a very interesting thing to look at if you look at the history of what's happened with fulfilling the past, you know you know, five, six decades or so.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, and as what you were pointing out is that ties into our perception of the world. Right? So it's like everyone knows those terms like Hitler, Nazis, fascist. Right? But if you say a communist, you're like, wait.
• 19:00
  What what is a communist? It's harder to think of that because it hasn't been portrayed in the arts. And so I think I guess, well, Oppenheimer came out recently and had, you know, they're talking about the communist party not really in a negative life. It was more you were getting punished if you're associated with it. But it is tying into all of that where because it isn't shown or because you're seeing the Chinese communist party as a hero, you know, in the future, if, like, you talk to your kids or something, you're like, you know, what do you think of the Cold War?
• 19:33
  And they're like, oh, Soviet Union, the spies. Right? And it's like, that's what you think of because that's what's portrayed in the movies. But then, yeah, it's like, what do you think of China? Then you would think of communist China's portrayal in movies where it's like, oh, everything's greater like in Xinjiang.
• 19:48
  The Uighurs are happy. They're dancing. You know? It's like, you don't you don't see what's really happening there. Meanwhile, the BBC says 1,000,000 of them are held in vocational camps or basically detention centers.
• 19:59
  And that ties into the aspect of control again. Right? It's like if they can control the narrative not just in their own country, but around the world, think of how much power that is, but also how much we're losing out on to the point where you even have prestigious universities, right, where if you want to speak about, say, pro democracy in Hong Kong, well, suddenly, you don't get a very good venue because a lot of funding comes from China or, you know, if you wanna talk about a film, well, on our film, we have Kaye Rubichek who exposes the human rights abuses in China, especially when it comes to the forced live organ harvesting of the Falun Gong group. She wanted to show that film in a lot of different colleges and was turned away because a lot of those universities have a lot of foreign students from China and they're afraid of losing that funding. And so we think of these institutions in America as like the beacons of democracy, of freedom of speech and all that.
• 21:01
  But even there, it's being a stifle. Right? So it really is in all aspects. We're seeing that in, say, the education as you're mentioning, also government and, of course, our film industry and all over to the point that it's reshaping our whole world view and then the way we will vote. Right?
• 21:19
  Because if you go to the polls, you're like, oh, this person is very pro China, engagement is great, you know, the two superpowers blah blah blah. And then what is the end result? We're losing jobs. Right? All our jobs are going overseas, equality is going down, and it's also hurting the people there.
• 21:36
  Right? It's not helping the Chinese people. They're treated like slaves. They have to work ridiculous amounts of hours without getting any compensation or very little compensation. During COVID, they had these things where they literally had to live in the manufacturing hub so that they could still manufacture things without getting COVID.
• 21:55
  Right? If you don't leave, you can't get in supposedly. And so all of that. And we're helping to fuel those human rights abuses. But then often people are like, oh, what does it matter?
• 22:06
  Right? We can save some dollars here. But then it's like, what is the quality that you're getting? Right? It's like even if you pay less now, you're gonna have to buy a ton more of them.
• 22:16
  So in the end, it's the same price as if you paid one good quality one. So that's one way a lot of people are waking up now when they see, you know, things that used to be made in Switzerland, say created in Switzerland, but made in China, and then it breaks after a year. And people are like, oh, it seems it's everything is now made in China.
• 22:37
  Seth Holehouse: And with with regards to Hollywood, how much control does the CCP have over Hollywood in two ways? One way being the ownership of Hollywood. Right? The ownership of the, you know, movie studios, movie theaters, etcetera. Much control do they have there?
• 22:52
  And also, how much control do they have over the messaging coming out of Hollywood? Like, how many movies that, you know, we might go and watch on the, you know, on the big screen at a movie theater? How many of those movies have been filtered through what's acceptable to the CCP?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Right. So a lot of this goes back to 02/2008 when the Beijing Olympics were all the rage, and that was obviously The US also had its own financial crisis, and China was seen as on the rise. And the next thing China wanted to do was enter Hollywood or get their own version of Hollywood. And so a lot of studios in America were like, great, you know, movies are expensive, we can have joint partnerships, this is a massive country with massive population, lots of money to be made. But part of that was Chinese the Chinese Communist Party only allows certain a certain number of films in per year.
• 23:46
  That number has grown over the years. I think the peak was 40, but then since COVID, it's gone down again. And so it's not easy to get your film into China. So a better bet is if you have a joint venture with a Chinese studio because then they control part of it and then part of that is also the Chinese Communist Party censors and then you work with them to try and get this film and you have a better chance at getting in. But what does that mean?
• 24:11
  You have to start changing the story. So as we point out two cases in the film Looper and Iron Man three that did get into China, the scripts were changed to add all sorts of Chinese Communist Party elements in just so it'd be more acceptable to the censors and to get in. And the result is you get a lot of money. Right? But then you do see that where it's growing where now a bunch of studios are like, oh, I'm gonna create a theme park in, like, Shanghai or somewhere in China.
• 24:40
  I'm gonna build the Hollywood of China. And then it starts getting to the point where you have to toe the party line. So we saw Scorsese had a film on Tibet, right, that was tabled. It's Scorsese. But even him, you know, everyone pretends that never happened.
• 24:57
  It was really hard to find Kundun anywhere. And then Brad Pitt was in seven years in Tibet. And him and the studio Sony were both punished for quite a long time just for making one film because it portrayed the Chinese Communist Party's takeover of Tibet, the violence that ensued a little too accurately. And the Chinese Communist Party didn't like that and so they were punished. But the point of that was to send a message, right, to all studios like, hey, if you make one film that we don't like, it's not just your studio, like Sony proper, as the whole company also got punished.
• 25:33
  And so after that, studios were like, oh, you know, if I've I've wanna make money, if I wanna go in, I better listen to this. And it's gotten to the point where over the years, there's self censoring happening. Like, the Chinese Communist Party censors don't even have to say anything. The movies are already rewriting scripts, changing characters, all these different things without being told. But I think you're seeing changes in that because for instance, Sen Shi and the Legend of the 10 Rings and Eternals both had Chinese cast, Chinese crew.
• 26:06
  People thought they're tailored made for the Chinese audience, but neither of those Marvel films made it into China. And part of that was because Simo Liu is the lead character in Shang Chi. He had years ago said something slightly negative about the Chinese Communist Party about what his parents endured in China. And so some are saying that, for that reason alone, didn't get in. And Chloe Zhao, the director of Eternals also decades ago had said something slightly negative.
• 26:33
  And so people are like, wait. If these stories and cast and crew that are tailor made for the Chinese audience can't even get in, right, what are the odds of a much more American film? But even with Top Gun Maverick, you're seeing that because this is like the most Patriot film ever you could think of. Right? But it's very expensive.
• 26:54
  So originally, you had this massive Chinese tech giant called Tencent was backing it. And then as many people noticed in 2019 when the international trailer came out, two patches were missing from his jacket instead of the Japanese and Taiwanese flags. They were some random shapes because those are very sensitive topics to the Chinese Communist Party. And then after a lot of international outrage, there was also COVID, so all the studios had to not release anything, no theaters are open so you could make changes. Tencent backed out and then the patches returned.
• 27:26
  And then Top Gun Maverick made over a billion dollars worldwide worldwide without the China market. That's the first Tom Cruise film to make a billion dollars. And so you're seeing those changes where it's like, oh, even if I self censor and do all these things, I might not get into the China market. But then you're also having a change within China where since the pandemic, you're seeing this like say nationalism, if you will, where the Chinese population themselves prefer to watch their own propaganda films like about the Chinese Japanese conflicts or Chinese Korean conflicts in the past. Obviously, the Chinese side is portrayed as the heroes in those.
• 28:05
  But you're seeing that too because throughout the years of this partnership, if you will, The US and Hollywood has taught China how to make movies on par or at the same level as Hollywood, but they can put their own elements into it, you know, it's their own movie. So you're seeing all these different aspects where the market, if you will, is changing. And then, obviously, in during the pandemic, China had those draconian lockdowns for years, like three years. Right? So you can't even get a movie into China because everything is under lockdown.
• 28:37
  So you're seeing all those changes play out. And then you're also seeing the rise in streaming or independent studios where Sound of Freedom did super well and is now it was in theaters and it's now on Amazon and that's from Angel Studios. Right? This is a independent studio, not controlled by the money in Hollywood and those major backers. So you are seeing those types of changes to the point where Chris Fenton, he's the film executive in our documentary that we talk about who got Looper in Iron Man three, and He says, now you're having studios green light films with zero in the box for the China profits.
• 29:15
  So it's gotten to that point where you are seeing a change in the way films are made.
• 29:20
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey.
• 29:33
  Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
• 29:41
  So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2020 the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No.
• 29:57
  It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins.
• 30:15
  So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home?
• 30:36
  No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 30:56
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver. Because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations.
• 31:31
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• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Portrayed the Chinese Communist Party's takeover of Tibet, the violence that ensued a little too accurately. And the Chinese Communist Party didn't like that, and so they were punished. But the point of that was to send a message, right, to all studios like, hey, if you make one film that we don't like, it's not just your studio, like Sony proper, as the whole company also got punished. And so after that, studios were like, oh, you know, if I I wanna make money, I wanna go in, I better listen to this. And it's gotten to the point where over the years, there's self censoring happening.
• 33:02
  Like, the Chinese Communist Party censors don't even have to say anything. The movies are already rewriting scripts, changing characters, all these different things without being told. But I think you're seeing changes in that because for instance, Senchi and the Legend of the 10 Rings and Eternals both had Chinese cast, Chinese crew. People thought they're tailored made for the Chinese audience but neither of those Marvel films made it into China. And part of that was because Simo Liu is the lead character in Shenzhi.
• 33:32
  He had years ago said something slightly negative about the Chinese Communist Party about what his parents endured in China. And so some are saying that, for that reason alone, didn't get in. And Chloe Zhao, the director of Eternals also decades ago had said something slightly negative. And so people are like, wait, If these stories and cast and crew that are tailor made for the Chinese audience can't even get in, right, what are the odds of a much more American film? But even with Top Gun Maverick, you're seeing that because this is like the most Patriot film ever you could think of.
• 34:08
  Right? But it's very expensive. So originally, you had this massive Chinese tech giant called Tencent was backing it. And then as many people noticed in 2019, when the international trailer came out, two patches were missing from his jacket. Instead of the Japanese and Taiwanese flags, they were some random shapes because those are very sensitive topics to the Chinese Communist Party.
• 34:30
  And then after a lot of international outrage, there was also COVID, so all studios had to not release anything. No theaters are open, so you could make changes. Tencent backed out, and then the patches returned. And then Top Gun Maverick made over a billion dollars worldwide without the China market. That's the first Tom Cruise film to make a billion dollars.
• 34:49
  And so you're seeing those changes where it's like, oh, even if I self censor and do all these things, I might not get into the China market. But then you're also having a change within China where since the pandemic, you're seeing this like say nationalism, if you will, where the Chinese population themselves prefer to watch their own propaganda films like about the Chinese Japanese conflicts or Chinese Korean conflicts in the past. Obviously, the Chinese side is portrayed as the heroes in those. But you're seeing that too because throughout the years of this partnership, if you will, The US and Hollywood has taught China how to make movies on par or at the same level as Hollywood, but they can put their own elements into it, you know, it's their own movie. So you're seeing all these different aspects where the market, if you will, is changing.
• 35:42
  And then obviously, in during the pandemic, China had those draconian lockdowns for years, like three years. Right? So you can't even get a movie into China because everything is under lockdown. So you're seeing all those changes play out. And then you're also seeing the rise in streaming or independent studios where Sound of Freedom did super well.
• 36:02
  And it's now it was in theaters, and it's now on Amazon, and that's from Angel Studios. Right? This is a independent studio, not controlled by the money in Hollywood and those major backers. So you are seeing those types of changes to the point where Chris Fenton, he's the film executive in our documentary that we talk about who got Looper in Iron Man three, he says now you're having studios green light films with zero in the box for the China profits. So it's gotten to that point where you are seeing a change in the way films are made.
• 36:36
  Seth Holehouse: And and I wanna round out the discussion with that. I wanna kind of ask about the the the future and and the positive pushback. But before we we get to that, you mentioned before that, you know, pre pandemic, a lot of people didn't really care much about China. And I had that experience too because I've, you know, been worked in various ways to expose human rights abuses in China for for decades. And, like, say, back in 02/2010, most people, if you try to talk to them about, you know, human rights atrocities in China, they're like, well, that's China.
• 37:04
  This is America. They didn't really care. But I've seen now, actually, that, like, everything goes back to CCP. It's become even very mainstream to talk about the CCP and what it's doing, which I think is a good thing because, you know, Sun Tzu, Art of War, you know, if you're at war, well, know yourself, but know your enemy. And if we have no idea who the enemy is, we're gonna lose the war, but people are now seeing that, yes, it is in fact the CCP.
• 37:27
  And I I still think though that there's a lot of Americans that have this normalcy bias. Right? When I've had people like Jeff Nyquist or other China experts come on, and they've talked about this final war. I know, you know, Josh Phillips over at Epoch has done, you know, documentary on this. He covers it a lot.
• 37:42
  And understanding that actually China's in what China's end goal is. And I think that more people would benefit from knowing that. And so you're, you know, someone that's absolutely on the front lines of exposing and understanding what's happening in China. You're interviewing really good experts on China. So from your perspective, what is the bigger picture of this?
• 38:01
  Where does the control over Hollywood and culture where does it fit in? Like, do you is it just, you know, fear mongering to say that China wants to take over America and colonize America? Or from what you're seeing, is that absolutely part of their long term goal is to basically end America as we know it and turn America into a Chinese communist colony, basically?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: You're seeing multiple ways the Chinese communist party is doing that. Think for instance, recently in the news was the massive hacking effort that went into Microsoft on the islands of Guam and all of that. So you're seeing instances of that, but also in terms of, say, the Chinese nationals that are coming across the border illegally. Uh-huh. They're now the the biggest, the fastest growing group of people who are coming across.
• 38:55
  And what's concerning with that is China has exit bans. Right? So you don't leave unless the Chinese Communist Party wants you to leave. And many are noting that these are single men who are military aged. And under the 2017 China National Security Law, China sees all of Chinese people as its like property if you will.
• 39:15
  So even if you're an American but you have family back home in China somehow, maybe different generations, they still see you as one of theirs. So they will pressure you through your family members or relatives or anyone to try and tow the party line if you will. So you have instances of like a Chinese national literally digging up a seed in a cornfield in Iowa to steal that technology and bring it back to China to the point that the FBI is saying every year, lose about $600,000,000,000 in intellectual property theft to China. So this is a multifaceted attack, if you will, on all parts of the country, whether that's education, the government, entertainment that we've talked about. But now you're seeing it at the border, you're seeing it in terms of hacking, you're seeing it in terms of national policy, but we are seeing kind of a pushback, right, as you were pointing out because now we have this bipartisan house select committee on the CCP.
• 40:14
  It's bipartisan. It seems like the only thing these people can agree on in Capitol Hill now is the China threat, so that's a change. So you are seeing that aspect, but I think what's also concerning is if you look at the military development. Right? So now China has the biggest navy and their army is also bigger than ours.
• 40:36
  Many people say, oh, it's untested, but it's like if war were to break out, say if China invades Taiwan and we go and protect Taiwan, A lot of people don't like to send troops there, but it's like if that starts folding, you're gonna see all the countries around it start folding as well, and then it's gonna end up here. You know? It's like if you don't stop it, it will spread. But if you see that, it's like just say if something happens in The Pacific. Right?
• 41:04
  That area is basically China's backyard. So we would have to send a lot of resources there. It's already gonna be harder. And in that type of a situation, numbers do matter, right? It's not just quality.
• 41:18
  If you have one destroyer but you have 10 ships coming at you, not too great even if they are untested. So you're seeing all of those to the point where many of the experts we bring on do talk about where you want deterrents so that you don't have war. You wanna be ready to fight a war so that you don't have to. And many of them talk about using nuclear missiles and stationing them around China, kinda like what you saw in the cold war, but to the point being like, hey, we do have weapons and we are willing to go there. You should back down.
• 41:55
  But right now, what we're seeing is we're seeing tensions all over. Right? You have the Israel Hamas war. You have the ongoing conflict with Russia and Ukraine. If you look at those, The US hasn't been able to send that signal of deterrence.
• 42:08
  You have those conflicts that have sprouted. Many are pointing to the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the very chaotic withdrawal as an indicator of, you know, when things really got bad, especially in The Middle East. But the world is watching those things. Right? Especially in totalitarian authoritarian regimes where it's not a president every four years, they're in power for a long time, they're like, oh, maybe I'll just wait four years and see, you know, what the next person does, if they're nicer to us, if they can be controlled by us, and then that's when they would launch an attack.
• 42:40
  So most of the experts I talked to, they're very concerned about what they're seeing and what's unfolding around the world and they really don't know. Everyone's just saying this is a very uncertain time, and it's a very dangerous time. So it is a very real threat. I think people are realizing that now, especially as you see the, illegals at the border, but also fentanyl. Right?
• 43:00
  I think most people, almost everyone has known someone who has been impacted by fentanyl, maybe died from it. And the precursors come from China, from Wuhan, where people might remember that city from the pandemic. Very famous city or infamous city now. And the Chinese Communist Party could stop that, but they don't. Instead, they talk a big game of, oh, we're gonna set up a committee to work with The US and look into it.
• 43:29
  Let's say, well, you know, they could stop it if they wanted to, but this is another type of warfare. We wanna go back to unrestricted warfare. Drug warfare is one of them as well where some are saying, you know, the sheer number of Americans that have died would be like a battalion of American soldiers, if you wanna look at it that way. That's also destroying American strength through these illicit pills that are put into other ones that maybe look like an Advil. Right?
• 43:57
  A lot of the people who died or college students who are trying to maybe get a night's rest or less stress, and then they got a fake pill and they died. These aren't drug addicts. And so that's one way that everyone is seeing and feeling the impact.
• 44:13
  Seth Holehouse: And so from the the looking towards the future, I know that, you know, the Epoch Times has grown to be a major player in the media industry where I I see it mentioned way more often than the New York Times, which is great because New York Times has become a tool, like a lot of these other media. And that's a whole different story is getting into the the the CCP's control of the media companies and how they do that and then inviting the journalists over and who who knows what kind of honeypot situations and whatnot happen. So are you seeing that there are a lot more people that are becoming aware of this threat? Are you are you you know, even within the epoch times, are you noticing this trend of a lot more Americans, especially, really waking up to the threat of China? And and then also, is that is it trickling upwards to the politicians where they're actually taking it much more seriously as well?
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: I think you are definitely seeing a shift, especially since the pandemic. Like, sure we have been covering China for years, right, over here but as you're mentioning, you know, other media not so much. But since the pandemic, you're seeing that, right, Fox is covering say the secret police stations that were in New York, the Chinese police stations. Obviously, we covered them, but you're seeing legacy media. CBS is covering the sixty Minutes covered the China's version of TikTok, Douyin, that had step by step guides for Chinese illegal immigrants to illegally enter The US.
• 45:40
  It's like, here's the hole in the wall. This is how you get in. These are the answers you give when you're being questioned, all that kind of thing. So you are seeing, say, even the legacy media covering China and the China threat a lot more and also human rights. Right?
• 45:56
  I think Uighurs the the plight of the Uighurs is quite mainstream now. You're seeing that on Capitol Hill, a lot of bills, lot of politicians talking about that when it comes to human rights or transnational criminal repression. Right? The long arm of the communist regime that's terrorizing dissidents or even Americans in America trying to silence them. And so you are seeing that.
• 46:19
  And then as we were mentioning earlier, right, the bipartisan house select committee on the CCP, that is a house committee that's specifically designed to look at this the threats posed by the Chinese commerce party and also the human rights abuses. So I think you are seeing changes and then I think also as you're mentioning at the top of the show with the pandemic, people are waking up and being like, wait, this isn't just a country on the opposite side of the world. What happens over there does impact me. Maybe I get something that's been tainted, you know, that's gonna have an impact here or the fentanyl that's coming over all these aspects. So I think you are seeing a change.
• 46:56
  Seth Holehouse: Which is good, which is really positive. One thing that I wanna also get your perspective on this is, you know, looking at okay. The CCP is an is an enemy of ours. Absolutely. When you look at the control mechanism that they have, the tentacles of control they have over the media, over Hollywood, Wall Street, etcetera, it seems very frightening.
• 47:15
  It's a very imposing enemy. But do from your perspective, do you think that the CCP is coming from a position of strength or weakness? Like, do you think that they're getting stronger and they're gonna kinda continue seizing more power around the world, or do you foresee that their collapse or their end might actually be somewhat near?
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: I think from the very beginning, because it's an illegitimate power that like gives you everything you need to know, it tries to be it tries to have the appearance of being strong, but it knows it's illegitimate, that it doesn't belong. Right? Because the especially China has a pretty divine history. If you look at the emperors, the dynasties, all these different things, the people are quite nice and like gentle and anyways, actually, that ties into one of the other stories of the I guess you could say the biggest human rights abuse happening in China, the Falun Gong because that was a practice that started in the early nineties and it got super popular about like a a hundred million people were cultivating this which has the tenants of truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance, even communist party officials. And as these like gentle meditative exercises, many people started doing that and felt health benefits, but also, you know, with their spiritually, they felt like they were better people especially after the darkness of the cultural revolution.
• 48:44
  Right? Many people were like, oh my gosh, like this they had that in them is the point. This is something that wasn't born to them. But a hundred million was more than the communist party members. And so in 1999, the regime launched an overnight persecution campaign or a clampdown that still continues to today.
• 49:04
  And with that, you see some of the most horrific things where people are beaten, raped, all these things happening in jail to the point that you also have live harvesting happening because China doesn't have a history of organ donations. It's against their history. They see the body as you should keep it whole. That's part of like Chinese medicine, all these different things. And you don't have many donors there.
• 49:33
  Maybe it's grown a little bit, but not to the point of China becoming the go to place for organ tourism. And so that raised a lot of questions and especially the medical community being being like, where are these people coming from? Even if you have prisoners, how do you have that many prisoners who are able to be matched that fast? And what they found was these people, mostly prisoners of faith, so either Falun Gong, some house Christians, those are the Uighurs, are being killed on demand to supply this. And that's not being reported on.
• 50:04
  And as you're mentioning, right, I'm gonna talk about that some other time, the media and all these different aspects. But you are seeing all of these different aspects where it is quite terrifying how it fits into that. But I think right now, it's kind of curious. We had the two sessions, the biggest like political meeting in China. And after that, the premier just canceled the three decade thing of normally giving press conferences afterwards.
• 50:28
  He's not taking answers anymore. So people are like, oh, like, why would you do that? And it's supposed to go through 2027. So it's like, okay, that's been a change. Why?
• 50:37
  And then you're seeing all these reports of infighting within the political party. So it's actually quite unstable right now, especially after Xi Jinping got his third term and stacked his cabinet with loyalists. There are interesting things happening, especially because the economy isn't doing well in China. Right? The real estate crisis, Evergrande, country garden, these indebted real estate giants, you also have record high youth unemployment to the point that the young people are doing this thing called lying down, like they just are so hopeless for their future.
• 51:11
  They're like, I can't get a job, you know, what's the point of anything? It's they're very despondent. And then you have the it seems the military apparatus is the only part that's making money. They're they're increasing their defense budget, their weapons manufacturing, their stations, like the amount of military stations they have. So it is a turbulent time even for the Chinese people where they are suffering and they don't really know what's happening.
• 51:39
  The economy is not getting better. They're being lied to. Seems the whole world is being lied to. So you're seeing all of those different elements to the point where you do have some people saying, it does look like the end is near, but it's tricky, you know, you never know. Sometimes right at the end is when someone is most vicious or something.
• 51:58
  Right? So it is still a dangerous time. It's definitely not about to be like peace around the corner. That might be a really bad thing first, but it is it's a unprecedented time, if you will.
• 52:08
  Seth Holehouse: No. It certainly is. So I'll pull up the website for for folks to watch the documentary. Again, the trailers and introduction. Hollywoodtakeover.com.
• 52:17
  It's also if folks are Epoch Times subscribers on Epoch TV, they go to Epoch Times. You see here's the the Epoch TV link for it. Highly recommended. Extremely well done. And I just wanna just give you a a great thanks for myself, and I think from a lot of the audience that that what you've done with the Epoch Times, and just the the team there.
• 52:38
  You're you're playing such an important role, and especially as we head into, I think, probably the most important election in the history of America in determining the fate of our country. Having a a media company that's not bought off, not controlled, that is really just striving for true independent journalism is so important, and it's you know, you're just playing such a critical role in this country and around the world. So just a big thank you for the team there. Thank you for making time to come on. I I encourage folks that are watching or listening to this to share the interview, but also to go, you know, subscribe to Epoch Times.
• 53:12
  You know, get their print newspaper. Go check out the documentary. I'll put the links in the description. And then, Tiffany, do you have any final thoughts as we wrap up?
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I think, like, no matter how dark the times seem, there is always hope. So even, say, the voiceless in China who think they're unheard, you know, there are media coverage of them, whether it's us, whether it's, like, other outlets, maybe not a lot, but there is that recognition, and people are learning about the plight of these people around the world and trying to help them. And so I think it's important to remember that, you know, no matter how dark times seem, you know, if enough individuals still believe in the goodness of other people or in the world, that that will prevail, and often, you know, it's a select few who like to bark about the end times if you will. But to remember, I guess, going back to even the constitution, right, where where we started from and what that stands for in getting back to The United States Of America. And as you were mentioning, right, communist China poses a massive threat, remembering that that is something we can unite together.
• 54:31
  And it's not to go after the Chinese people, right, because they're the biggest victims of the Chinese Communist Party, but that by countering the Chinese Communist Party, you're actually also helping the Chinese people and, of course, Americans and the freedoms of the whole world.
• 54:48
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, important and wise words to to finish with. So, Tiffany, thank you again for being here. It's a pleasure speaking with you, and, look forward the next time. Folks, I have a quick message for you.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 55:00
  Seth Holehouse: The twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're gonna target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down.
• 55:32
  You can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family.
• 56:11
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