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324: Love Is Blind Reunion Recap (S10 E13) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to reality teethy friend. I am one
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  Speaker 2: That's me.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to do our final recap of Love
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  Speaker 1: is Blind Season ten, the reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a journey.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a journey and I've been having a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun. And I actually did not have high
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  Speaker 1: hopes for this reunion because I've just been so jaded
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  Speaker 1: by the Sukianya Zukanya Suki suki of it all on
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  Speaker 1: the TLC. But I was pleasantly surprised. Me too, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I Love is Blind. But before we get into it,
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this final recap, Beatrice, I
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  Speaker 1: do have to ask you whether you have any takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate Vanessa and Nick Lachet asking like hard
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  Speaker 2: questions to some of.
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  Speaker 3: The jerks on the cast of this season.
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  Speaker 2: I will say just a little nod to the producers,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a little tip. It was a little long. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit as long reunion. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: need to hear comments from people in the audience, right,
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. Sorry if that offends anybody
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  Speaker 2: from people who wanted to hear my thoughts. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: like fast Forward, who.
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  Speaker 1: Wants to hear from these losers from previous seasons? Not
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely What is my takeaway? Well, I hate Bree?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, really am I hate Bree? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: heye is a strong word. I don't have hate in
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  Speaker 1: my heart generally speaking, but I don't like the kind
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  Speaker 1: of woman that Bree is. And I've seen her in
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  Speaker 1: some subsequent interviews and she's just as bitchy as ever,
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  Speaker 1: and I just would never want to hang out with
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  Speaker 1: her in the real world. And I don't think she's shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's my takeaway. Fuck girls like Brie.
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  Speaker 2: She's not a girl's girl, not at all. Ever.
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  Speaker 1: No, neither's Prianca. No, and I don't think Ashley is either.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
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  Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's get into our recap of
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  Speaker 1: Love Is Blind Season ten the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Take it Away, Beatrice, Well, first, I thought we could
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  Speaker 2: start off with a little roast of everybody's outfits.
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  Speaker 1: Yes please, if you don't, I don't mind at all.
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  Speaker 1: I would love it.
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  Speaker 2: So first we had Britney's outfit in the little black dress,
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  Speaker 2: with the sequins and everything. Would you think about her
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  Speaker 2: overall fit?
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was really pretty. Yeah, I loved the
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  Speaker 1: dress on her. Her body is obviously banging. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily love the hair either. I mean, I'm not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: like with my finger on the pulse of what's trendy
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  Speaker 1: for you young girls or anything like that, But I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't looked kind of matronly in that regard. I
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  Speaker 1: think I would have liked to see it down and flowy,
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  Speaker 1: but I just thought she was so pretty.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's so gorgeous. I'm just like Davante, You're
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  Speaker 2: so fucking stupid, But like whatever. Then we had Christine
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  Speaker 2: and her little gray dress.
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  Speaker 1: Me.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really like the dress personally, but I think
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  Speaker 2: she's gorgeous, Like, she's so pretty. Her hair was nice,
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  Speaker 2: her makeup was on point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with the dress, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was a nice enough style, but it was just boring.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's largely attributable to the color. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I gif it were a different, like vibrant sort of color,
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  Speaker 1: I would have liked it better. I thought her hair
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  Speaker 1: was nice. I thought her makeup was nice. I think
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  Speaker 1: she's a beautiful girl.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: What about Emma in her dark blue dress?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought she looked pretty. You know, I recently
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  Speaker 1: saw a picture of Emma on Instagram and she had
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  Speaker 1: like blonde highlight ooh in her hair and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of feathering out like a lah farah faucet from
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  Speaker 1: back in the day. Do you know who that is? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I know that. Okay, I'm not that old, but.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's just had like different like hair. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it looked really pretty. I think this is nice. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit basic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like high school prom. It's given that.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought she was really pretty. Her makeup was
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  Speaker 2: really nice. And then what about Amber and her light blue.
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  Speaker 1: There were a lot of sparkles on that dress, but
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  Speaker 1: of course we know that her daughter loves sparkles. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that it was very form fitting. Obviously she's got
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  Speaker 1: a great body as well. Not that I'm here to
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  Speaker 1: comment on everybody's bodies. Not everybody can be out here
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  Speaker 1: like this, honey, Okay, but I thought her hair was
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  Speaker 1: kind of she does this like weird little bouffont thing
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  Speaker 1: with the top, like a bumpet or something. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what she's doing, but it's very old fashioned. I
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  Speaker 1: actually think it ages her a little bit. Yeah, her
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  Speaker 1: face definitely looked a little different, and I know we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about that. I was just I was
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  Speaker 1: a little mystified as to what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, her face.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like shame her appearance or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that, but her lips were looking a little different
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  Speaker 2: to me, and people were like theorizing online like maybe
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  Speaker 2: she got her fillers dissolved or something. Right, But she
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  Speaker 2: actually responded to a comment on Instagram, which we can
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  Speaker 2: put here if you want, but she had said quote
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  Speaker 2: it was actually an androgenic hormonal response due to excessive
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  Speaker 2: cortisol levels. Following the months after the season, my face
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  Speaker 2: developed these deep cyst pockets which kept causing infections. I
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  Speaker 2: was on several rounds of antibiotics and finally was put
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  Speaker 2: on spirinal lactone, which has slowly been helping, but unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: areas like my upper forehead and upper lip are still healing.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess that's what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap, which is crazy cist pockets. You know that
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of Brandy Glanville. Are you keeping up with
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  Speaker 1: anything that's happening with Brandy. Do you know who Brandy
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  Speaker 1: Glanville is.
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  Speaker 3: Is she a housewife?
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  Speaker 2: She is?
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  Speaker 1: She was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She was
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  Speaker 1: definitely a beautiful woman, late thirties, early forties, but like
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  Speaker 1: something happened in the last couple of years. She calls
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  Speaker 1: it a parasite. Other people think that it's maybe her
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  Speaker 1: filler settling or being inflamed. I don't know, honey, but
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  Speaker 1: like her whole face has like divots in it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's very misshapen, and it's so frickin' unfortunate. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's an inflammatory response. But what we've
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  Speaker 1: got Amber actually saying, like if it's a cortisol response,
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  Speaker 1: she's calling it stressed. So she was so stressed out
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  Speaker 1: after what happened between her and Jordan and Love is blind,
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  Speaker 1: that she had some sort of an inflammatory process which
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  Speaker 1: caused that, which is so sad.
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  Speaker 2: That's really sad.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess makes sense with what we're seeing on
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  Speaker 1: her face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which does make sense. And I mean, to be fair,
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  Speaker 2: like her overall demeanor is giving that like she's been
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  Speaker 2: stressed out. She looked a little bit thinner, too, so
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  Speaker 2: like I get that as being like an overall stress
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  Speaker 2: response and also fuck Jordan, but we'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 2: Next up, on the outfits, we have Ashley in that
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  Speaker 2: red ensemble. Yes, I liked the red dress. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was very flattering.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought her hair in her makeup was wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: I thought she looked like a beautiful Barbie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely Barbie. And then we had Breezy and her
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  Speaker 2: brown deep V neck dress.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think the color was fitting since it's
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  Speaker 1: the color of shit. I mean, I think she was pretty.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there was some weird contour on her nose
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  Speaker 1: or something that she was trying to de emphasize, but
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  Speaker 1: it was only over emphasizing. It's just hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to sing the praises of this woman in any way, Like, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: objectively she's a nice looking woman. Is she medium ugly?
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  Speaker 1: We could have that conversation, but like, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought like she looked the prettiest at the
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  Speaker 2: reunion than she did in a show. Sure, that's not
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  Speaker 2: giving much because she's still shitty. And then we go
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  Speaker 2: on to the guy. So we had Big Dick Dick
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  Speaker 2: and he looked nice. He looked handsome.
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  Speaker 1: I loved that he matched with Christine. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: but he's always hands I'm always handsome.
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  Speaker 2: I got no notes that we have Mike and his
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  Speaker 2: red suit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm super bored with him. So he's the wax lumberjack.
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  Speaker 1: He's a very flank person. Like I look at him
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  Speaker 1: and I don't really see him. Yeah, I just I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure he looked fine. I'm sure his mama loved it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm bored.
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  Speaker 2: Mid Then we have Jordan, right and his suit. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan, he's a husky gentleman, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: We love our dad bods over here. Okay, he's got
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  Speaker 1: some roseatia issues. He's got a red face, which indicates
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  Speaker 1: he probably drinks a lot and eats a lot of
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  Speaker 1: inflammatory foods. He's okay.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't brush his hair, and I'm just like.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, these guys don't feel like they have to try.
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  Speaker 1: At least Thick and Mike they did try. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: even little.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Fusco a little bit, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I thought Jordan looked a little odd.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I didn't like his jacket paired with his trousers
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  Speaker 2: and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I just felt like it didn't match. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 3: who dressed you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have Connor in his frat boy
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  Speaker 2: esque suit that's not tailored whatsoever. But I mean he
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  Speaker 2: looks okay, like it's like whatever, generic white guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't think that that suit
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  Speaker 1: was a hit. I think that his weird white shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm of a different generation or like tennis shoes,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really match to me. Maybe that's the look.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like he's a very basic,
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  Speaker 1: middle of the road ohioan totally God bless, God bless.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have Alex, who is totally I told you,
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  Speaker 2: didn't brush his beard, didn't brush his hair, looks.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's lost weight. He's having a hard time out
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  Speaker 1: in these internet.
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  Speaker 2: Streets because Ashley totally destroyed him on national television.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and then we've all destroyed him since then.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, But I'm like, why are you wearing a suit?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's looking like he's going to happy
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  Speaker 1: hour after a long day as an insurance broker teaching
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  Speaker 1: on a casual Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous that we have Davante also wearing tennis
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  Speaker 2: shoes and like business casual look. He's in all black
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  Speaker 2: and I hate him blabonte. There is literally no there's
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  Speaker 2: no like bifurcation, there's no line, there's no.
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  Speaker 1: Neck head, it's just head to shoulders. It's like bigfoot,
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  Speaker 1: big old fucking melon headed head and big fucking bla
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  Speaker 1: bonte body, a vacant stare, weird cheeks, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: want a body shame and I realize him going crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but like, why does he have all of these axes
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  Speaker 1: that are coming out of the woodwork. How could he
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  Speaker 1: date at all? He must be rich or something, because
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  Speaker 1: like I don't understand what any woman would see in
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  Speaker 1: this absolute lhos or not attractive Nope, I mean he
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  Speaker 1: was wearing black so that maybe it was easier not
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  Speaker 1: to see him. So I thank him for that cringe.
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  Speaker 1: But like, he's not attractive and his suit didn't work
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  Speaker 1: for him, and he's he's not a nice person.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all. And then last, but certainly not least,
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  Speaker 2: we have little Chris Fusco and he looks like a
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  Speaker 2: little hobbit and his hair is so greasy and long,
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  Speaker 2: and he looks like he's also having a terrible time
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  Speaker 2: because he got destroyed on national TV and subsequently after. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he looks nice, but he's trying to
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  Speaker 2: look nice because he's got.
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  Speaker 3: An all black suit and black shoes.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that he looked fine. I think
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  Speaker 1: he looked He looked as best as he could look like.
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  Speaker 1: I think he made some good choices in this sreen in,
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  Speaker 1: which reminds me we didn't see Jessica.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't have her in there. Oops.
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  Speaker 1: So she was wearing like some boy shorts panty underneath
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  Speaker 1: a somewhat see through red dress. Yes, she was also
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  Speaker 1: giving revenge dress. She was wearing her hair long. She
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  Speaker 1: had those absurd fake eyelashes, which I really have a
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  Speaker 1: grievance against. But whatever you do, you mama. She looked pretty. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of desperado. Oh yeah, it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, look what you're missing, honey.
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  Speaker 3: Look at me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so hot. I was like, oh, you didn't need
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  Speaker 1: to do all that. But she was certainly pretty.
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  Speaker 2: She's definitely pretty. I don't like the dress. I don't
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: like the whole like sea through panty look thing, and like,
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  Speaker 2: why we don't need to do that, correct, But she's
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: giving like, look, I'm still young and hot. Uhh.
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  Speaker 1: And also I want to prove something to Chris, but like,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: we don't have to prove ourselves to these little awful men. No,
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  Speaker 1: we do not normalize not doing that ever again.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so let us know what your thoughts are about
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  Speaker 2: the reunion looks and if you guys had the same
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  Speaker 2: opinions as us, or if you liked or hated.
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  Speaker 1: Who was your best look? Who is your worst look?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please let us know in the comments below, but
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  Speaker 2: without further ado, let's get into the actual meat of
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  Speaker 2: the reunion and what was talked about. So we'll go
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  Speaker 2: based off of couples. Okay, first we started with Vic
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  Speaker 2: and Christine and the nonoring. Literally, I was like, going astral,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm I'm happy for y'all. I'm bored low,
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  Speaker 2: But that's great. Y'all are still married and.
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  Speaker 1: Happily for visiting family.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: We're meshing, that's awesome, you're matching, you got the chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: I do love that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm bored.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Let's get into the drama, starting with Amber and Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: who apparently their marriage only lasted a whole four months. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't even live together once because Jordan, big butt
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  Speaker 2: Jordan didn't want to move out to wherever she was
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  Speaker 2: leut Vernon, Mount Vernon. He didn't want to live out there.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't even really want to drive out there. He would,
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  Speaker 2: according to Amber, want her to drive to him forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes away on the weekends, primed and ready to go,
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  Speaker 2: dressed to the nines, ready for a fucking and then
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  Speaker 2: fuck off back to Mount Vernon. So that was what
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  Speaker 2: ultimately led to the demise of their relationship, which is
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  Speaker 2: pretty sad. I think a lot of people were pretty
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: bummed about it. I know you're like I called it.
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  Speaker 1: I did call it, And I have some nuanced opinions
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  Speaker 1: about this couple. First and foremost, we clocked Amber as
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  Speaker 1: being emotionally unregulated and having a massive amount of baggage
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  Speaker 1: and like trauma from her previous relationships and heck, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even from childhood. We saw her first hand in a
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  Speaker 1: variety of the episodes, projecting that onto Jordan and also
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  Speaker 1: dealing with conflict or conflict resolution in a very toxic
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  Speaker 1: and immature way. And so that was telegraphed to us
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  Speaker 1: and we could kind of see the writing on the wall,
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  Speaker 1: like this is not going to work long term, like
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be a toxic misandrist, and then go on
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  Speaker 1: love is blind and try to find you a man,
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  Speaker 1: like you should want a man because you like a
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  Speaker 1: man or whatever. So Amber has deep seated issues, and
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  Speaker 1: Jordan also has issues. He's a lazy, fucking dude. He
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  Speaker 1: expects Amber to come to him. He expects Amber to
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  Speaker 1: be kind of a sweet, lovely wife and not willing
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  Speaker 1: to move in with Amber, not willing to spend more
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  Speaker 1: time with Amber other than going to visit her on
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  Speaker 1: the weekends and sometimes during the week like it just
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  Speaker 1: was never going to work for Jordan. I think the
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  Speaker 1: crux of the issue is that Amber screamed at him
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  Speaker 1: and Amber drank a lot. Yeah, and so we can
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  Speaker 1: believe this as viewers because we saw some of that
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  Speaker 1: behavior in the show. But at the same time, I
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  Speaker 1: think that he was trying to blame Amber for everything,
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  Speaker 1: and she did herself no favors by like getting up
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  Speaker 1: and walking out and screaming at I. She was doing
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: so well. If she could have just kept it together,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: everybody would have been on her side. But because she
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: had an emotional outburst. Now you've got people online going like,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: look how crazy she is. Look this is why Jordan
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: left her. She should have kept that shit together. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about the story that Jordan
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: was telling on stage about one of the weddings that
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: he took Amber to. She shows up late, misses the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: ceremony within thirty minutes, she's blackout drunk, and he has
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to remove her from the venue. She's arguing with him
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: in the lobby. He ultimately puts her in the car
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and then goes back to the wedding. She wakes up
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: hours later in a car. He still hasn't come out
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: to check on her, take her home, and so she
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: just ubers herself back to Mount Vernon. What did you
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: think of that?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I thought that was crazy. I feel like Jordan was
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: probably telling most of the truth, Like maybe some of
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it was a little embellish, but Amber didn't really deny
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: most of what happened there, Like she just kind of
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: was like turning it round back on to her daughter
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: and him walking out on her and her daughter and
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: not taking their relationship seriously. And I think that he
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: brought that up kind of in bad faith, a little
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: like to just like you had said, try to blame
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Amber for everything and shirk off some of the responsibility
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on him for being a lazy fuck ass, Like what
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: did you expect when you agreed to marry this woman
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: who lived in Mount Vernon and you had no intentions
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of living out there, Like, what did you expect was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: going to happen? How did you expect this relationship to? Like? Actually,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: like you kind of suck for that. But at the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: same time, Amber's got issues, like major issues. Not only
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: does she not trust any men, she hates men. She's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: obviously got a drinking problem or a substance abuse problem,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and she's a mom and a nurse practitioner, So like, girl,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like I don't know. I thought
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: he was telling the truth with that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, But Amber has been on subsequent podcasts to include
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: The Bile Files, in which she talks specifically about that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: wedding night and what happened was on the way to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the ceremony, her car started to act up and it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: would like not go over thirty five miles an hour,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And she has the texts where she's texting Jordan and saying, look,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: something's happening with my car. I'm running a little bit late,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: so she informs him that she's got this car issue.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: She gets there and by the time she's when she arrives,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Jordan has already had eight beers, so he's already drinking
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: slash drunk. She does admit I did drink. I was
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: having drinks. It wasn't thirty minutes and I was blackout,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but you know, I was drinking, and I did get
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a little drunk. And Jordan's solution for that was just
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to stick me in a car for literal hours and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: never check on me. And the point she's making is like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a drunk woman and you just dumped me in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a car and then went back into the venue and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: partied all night with your friends and never like drove
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: me home. Got me an uber, And even just to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: get an uber is a dangerous situation for any woman sober,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: but also for a drunk woman. So you put her
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in a very precarious and I would say unsafe situation,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to act like it's all amber. No,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you didn't give a shit. You didn't take care of
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: your wife, and even if you thought maybe it wasn't
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: going to work out, you should have still treated her
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: with respect.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And care and care and make sure she.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Got home to Mount Vernon dumping her like that. Yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: so she's like, come on now.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I believe that. I mean I did it as well.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: She's not a liar. No, Like you can say a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: lot about Amber, and she does have her flaws, but
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: lying is not one of them. She will tell you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: what she thinks, and she will tell the truth, and.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: She will spitball until say the straight truth. I do
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: appreciate that about her. I think she's got major problems though,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Like she really needs therapy and she needs to like
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: be single for a while and just learn to be
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: okay with that, because I think the problem with her
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: is that she is so desperate for like a connection
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: with another man or with another person, and so she
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: gets into these relationships with these losers who like don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: want to commit to her, who don't want to respect
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: her whatsoever, And so she's constantly in this same cycle
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of like, I'm in a terrible relationship, and then they
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: get introduced to my daughter, and then my daughter ends
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: up her, and then she feels really terrible and feels
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: guilty about that, and it's this constant thing like girl.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Just be single. Mm hmm, just get a battery, operate
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend, and you'll be fine for a.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Little while, and like go to therapy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Therapy.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It's so weird to me that you have all of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: these professional people who like aren't in therapy when they
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that they have issues. Now, what did you think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: about Jordan not saying goodbye to Amber's daughter Emma? And
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Amber having an issue with that, because like, if you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: say that you loved her, if you say that you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had a great relationship and you guys played legos and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you guys got along, like, why didn't you even say goodbye?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I just think it's indicative of him being just a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: lazy piece of shit, like not actually taking the situation seriously.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think he ever took Emma seriously, even though
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Amber brought Emma up at every single turn and expressly
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: said every time, like this is really important to me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I don't want to bring a man home to have
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: my daughter get attached to for them to ultimately leave, Like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to put her through that because it's
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: really gut wrenching for me as a mom to have
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: my kid go through that time and time again. She
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: brought that up a million times. I don't think Jordan
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: ever took that fully seriously.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: She also put herself on Love is Blind.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: She also chose a guy who said out loud, my
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: deal breaker is no kid, right, So she made those choices.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: As well, definitely, And like that goes back to my
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: other point of like, you're constantly putting yourself in these
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: situations where you're choosing losers and then you get the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: same result. So maybe don't do that right, Maybe go
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to therapy and learn to love yourself first before you
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: allow another man into your life and into your daughter's life.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I do think that she probably has a habit of
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: weaponizing her daughter a little bit in these relationships, because
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: she brings it up as a way to kind of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: deflect the conversation from her being drunk at that wedding,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: because Jordan brought that up totally in bad faith to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: make her look bad.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And I don't know is it fair. I mean, if
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: she's treating a lot and if it's affecting their relationship,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: then I would mention it as well.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But like if he wasn't giving the full context
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: of the fact that he was also drunk and just
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: right put her in the car and didn't care about her,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: like he was bringing it up in bad faith, I think.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But she brought up Emma of like why did you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: come into her life and you didn't even say goodbye?
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And then he's like, well, see, you weaponize your.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Daughter all the time. And then he turns to the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: camera and is like, well, Emma, I'm sorry, Like we
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: had such a good relationship and I care about you.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did this. Like I don't think he
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: actually cares.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is that it's better
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that they're not together.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it apparently affected Amber much more than
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: it seems like it affected Jordan, because Jordan has already
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: moved on. He got into another relationship. Oh and that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: was something else that came up in her podcast appearance.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Apparently there is some potential evidence that Jordan was dating
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: this girl that he's now with while they were still
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: married and still had an agreement to be married.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Oh that's shitty. Yeah, that's really lame.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I feel bad for Amber, and I'm not trying to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: come off like, you know, all of this is her
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: fault and everything. It's just like at a certain point
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: in time, when you are finding yourself in the same
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: pattern over and over again in your relationships, maybe you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: need to reflect on why do I keep putting myself
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: in these situations? Why do I keep choosing men who
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: are telling me over and over again that they just
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: like don't want to have children, or they don't take
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: life seriously, or they don't want to move out to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Mount Vernon. Why am I picking this guy on a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: show like Love is a Blind and then agreeing to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: marry him?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it just takes me back to Neville Goddard.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Everything is just you pushed out, yep. And so if
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: everything that you experience in your life is just you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: pushed out and you keep attracting the same medium, ugly,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: mid ass men who treat you poorly, then it's not
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to like take the blame off them and put it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on you, but like you do have to at some
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: point start looking at what inside of you is drawing
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: these men to you, attracting them to you, and why
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you are willing to put up.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: With that bullshit exactly.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And I think you can do that therapy, Amber, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I hope you get that therapy. And Jordan, I don't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: ever need to see you on my television again? Ever,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: put you see pap on hoodie and go have yourself
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a good time a waiter here seriously.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Next we have bree aka Breezy and Connor, and unfortunately
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: they are still together, but they're not living together. Apparently
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: he like lives in the same apartment building as her,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: but they're like neighbors or something, so she doesn't let
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: him live in her apartment with him because he's got
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a keg or whatever. But she loves him so much apparently,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and Connor still loves her unfortunately.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she says that she sees it going all the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: way to the altar. Okay, Connor's her man and this
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: is going to be forever. And I don't believe it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: for a minute. I think she is going to dump Connor.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: She's giving me BPD vibes, and I just I don't.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I just think Connor is going to to be heartbroken.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand what Connor sees in this woman.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: She will not let you move into her apartment.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's whack.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And you're willing to what did you sell your house?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I really want to know.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I really hope he didn't.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You're willing to what put your life on hold for
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: yourself into an apartment so that you can eat the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: crumbs that she leaves behind. Fray he like, get some
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: self respect. Connor like, we don't see everything. Maybe you
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: have a great relationship with this girl, but from what
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I can see of Breath on my television in the show, like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: she is not a good person. She does not treat
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you well. She did not take enough responsibility for the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: way that she spoke to Connor. No, no, not at all.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: When Nick brings it up and asks her like, did
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you watch this back and did you have any regret,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, obviously we banter, but like I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: did realize that, you know, not all the things that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I say need to be mean or whatever. I forget
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what she didn't say enough though. She didn't own the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: shit that she did, because what she was doing was
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: dehumanizing him.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: She was putting him down. She was completely awful to him,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and I didn't see any acknowledgment of that from her.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't like her. But I don't even not
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like her because of Connor. I don't like her because
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: of what she did with Chris Yep. Putting up with
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: all that bullshit, and I don't like her because of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: how she failed to show up for not just Jessica
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: but also for Brittany. But we'll get to that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree completely. I did not think she took
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: enough responsibility with the Chris stuff whatsoever. And then she
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: didn't take any responsibility with the shit that happened with
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Davante when we get to that, I just don't really
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like people who do that, who kind of scred around
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: their actions in that, Like I just I didn't appreciate
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it whatsoever. And then we have Nick calling out Chris
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: and showing the flashbacks of Chris and Breezy's conversation when
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: they were all at the Weird Millennial Boss in the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: last few episodes, and we didn't even get to like
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the most inappropriate parts of that conversation, where like, I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: don't know, Breezy talked about how bad Connor was in bed,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: so we're not gonna talk about that whatsoever. And Nick
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: is like asking Connor, like, how do you feel about it?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And I will say, to Connor's credit, Connor's like, well,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think about Chris at all.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Like he's dead to me.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Basically, apparently Chris and Connor were like BFFs in the pod, right,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and then when he found out what he was doing
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: with Breezy, he's like, Wow, this guy's an asshole. Like
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: fuck this dude, I don't even think about him anymore.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: But he's like also skirting around Breezy's responsibility. He's like, yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: she's a grown woman, like whatever, it's fine, Like she
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: can say what she wants and I know she loves me,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Like it's all good. I'm like, but did you see
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the part where she talked about you were bad in bed?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, it was just like okay, that's fine, all right whatever.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Like he just he doesn't have a shiny spine. No,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: he is coming across as a bit of a stemp.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I need for him to believe in himself and to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: want more for himself. But right now he thinks Burrie
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: is absolutely the pinnacle. She's everything, and he's so happy
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to be with her. So like, Okay, God, bless God,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: bless that, God bless I guess what am I gonna do?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I did think it was funny when Nick Lache was like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you know, O'Connor, Ohio man to Ohio man. We believe
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in the Bro code? Do you think that Chris broke
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the Bro Code? And I'm like, what is that a thing?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Like what is this?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So cringe? But this gets us into Nick Lache going
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: after Chris, which I did appreciate.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I thought this was pretty great.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Nick says to Chris like it was totally
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: brutal to watch your treatment of.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Jessica, Like what the fuck do you have to.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Say, you little weasel man? And of course Chris is
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like it was tough, it was tough watching that back,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and like I'm ashamed by it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: But that's it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Like he has nothing to say.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like somebody got a hold of him. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: won't go so far as to say like a PR
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: management team or anything like that, but maybe, but like
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: somebody told him to say as little as possible, to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: not emote, to not be upset, to not be angry,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to not talk about anything, talk as little as possible.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And honestly, that was the best advice that anybody could
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: give him, because he didn't say anything to get in
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: any kind of trouble. He was appropriately apologetic. I don't
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: buy his apology, don't get me Wrongly, he said the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: things that he should have said to hopefully on his end,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: like restore any reputation that he might have lost. To me, professionally,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I have to imagine personally, like the friends in his life,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the women in his life know exactly who it is
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that he is, and he is an absolute devil and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a demon. But professionally to come out on a national
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: platform and show yourself to lack integrity to that degree,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna lose me as a client if you're
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like looking for home for me because you're now all
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: of a sudden a realtor because you had to leave
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: your other job because they were garnishing your wage. To
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like if now you're a realtor and you're my realtor, like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm firing your ass. There is no way I'm ever
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: gonna work with you now or in the future. So
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: he had to do some kind of damage control, and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I think for him that meant saying as little as possible,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: which is what he did, and I think it was
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it went as good as it could have gone for him.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it did take off some of the heat
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: off of him and put it on to other people.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Like in the episode, like with Alex when we get
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to him after this and Davante later like it kind
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: of makes him look I don't want to say this
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: in a bad way.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Believe it makes him say it in a bad way.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It makes him look a little bit less awful by
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: shutting the fuck up. Correct, And he does kind of
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: apologize to Connor. He's like, I'm sorry I came on
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to Breezy, you know, too aggressively. He tries to give
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: just like kind of a fake pr apology because of course,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: like when Nick is addressing Chris this, then we have
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to bring Jess into the conversation and we have both
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Nick Lache and Vanessa Lache calling out Chris for being
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a tiny piece of shit, and it's pretty great. I
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: do I do like that, Yes, but you can tell
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: that Chris was just like I think he was mortified.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Number one. I think he was zannied.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: He probably would.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I think he took a couple of xanacts. I was
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm chilling, I'm not saying anything, I'm shutting
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the fuck up, and I'm just gonna sit here and trip.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Well, because wouldn't you like if you were this guy,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: like I would be shitting bricks, like having to sit
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: on this cast and be called out on national TV
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like it's terrible, but also you shouldn't have said the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: shit that you said.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: You know, what did you think when they kept coming
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: around to his insecurities and Jessica spoke a little bit
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: about this, like, you know, when people are dealing with
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: these deep insecurities, they try to take other people down
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: or make them feel less then in order for them
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to feel better about themselves. And then Nick tied that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to the day that Chris went to Jessica's home and saw, Oh,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: she's balling out here. She's got four bedroom mansion and
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I don't live this way. And actually I'm in sixty
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of credit card debt and they're garnishing
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: my wages and I'm not working at that job anymore.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And so it was this crisis of insecurity financial instability,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: which Jessica actually called out. She does his financial instability,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: which of course he denies. He did deny, but he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: does not elaborate, which was smart. He doesn't go into
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: it and try to defend himself. He's just like, no,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that's not what it was.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Well, he can't really defend it because he is in debt.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want people to think that the reason he
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: was insecure was financial. He would rather we think that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it was an over emphasis on the physical, which it
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: never was.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: It never was at all. And like Nick Lache does
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: try to call him out on that too, because he
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: knows that that's bullshit. He's like, so you're saying it
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: was because of the physical chemistry, but why were you
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: texting Jess just before you went and saw her house
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that your guys' connection was on fire and that you
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: loved her so much and that you had such a
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: crazy connection with her. But then once you saw her house, Oh,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not attracted to you because you don't do pilates enough,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Like Nick does try to call him out on that,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and Chris does kind of skirt around it, and he's like, no,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: that had nothing to do that. I'm just an emotionally
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: immature person and just I'm really sorry for being emotionally immature,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and you know you deserve better, and like you're actually
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: really beautiful though, Like I just want you to know that, right,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And of course Jess is like, thanks for the apology
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and thanks for showing me who you were quickly. Yes,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I did appreciate that, but I do think she was
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: right on the nose. Oh, he's totally financially insecure. Yes,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: we called that out when that happened. Yes, Like, he
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: is definitely an insecure Napoleon little man.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yes. And that connects his ability to provide, his ability
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to like go to the fourth season yep, and have
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a Charles Schwab account or whatever. That is directly connected
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to his idea of masculinity, what it means to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a real man. And because he lacks these things and
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: he knows that he does, that's the insecurity. Yet he
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: can't provide on that level for a woman of quality
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: like Jess. And so let's make it about Pilates. Let's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: make it about I'm thirty years old. I need to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: fuck for the next sixty years. Let's make it about
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that and try and obfuscate away from the fact that,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: in my own eyes, I'm not a real man. Plus
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm five seven four exactly, He's already at a disadvantage
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in his own mind. Yet you know, if he had
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: come correct, if he had showed up and been self deprecating,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if he had been truly loving, I mean, she would
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: have overlooked a multitude of his flaws because of course
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: she was in love with him. I mean, he could
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: have had it all and he blew the bag.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: He did it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He blew it because he's so insecure.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: He did say something like I've never had an emotional
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: connection like the one I had with you, and I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'll ever have it again.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty cool.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I wondered if he meant it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I think he did.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: It was like a moment of rare insight for him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I think he did personally, because if he is so
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: deeply insecure, like I think he knew deep down like
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: this is a woman of quality and I am such
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a piece of shit that I could never amount to her,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And like that's sad, like if you think about it
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in that context, but I think that that's where he
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: was coming from. Like I am a low life compared
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to Jessica, who is a whole doctor, has a four
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: bedroom home, is beautiful money, she.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Is, is lovely. She's talking about like the loving spaces
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that she intentionally creates for the people that she values.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Like she seems like she's thoughtful and intentional with her
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: energy and with her life, and like you just completely
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: squandered that and will you ever have that opportunity again?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: It felt like he was coming into the realization that, like, wow,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I may not. Plus everyone has seen who you really are.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Who's going to ever trust you in the future?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Nobody?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: The answer is nobody. And so then we have another
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: flashback to end this segment, a little bit of Chris
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: talking to Breezy and Ashley and Prianca I think was
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: there too at the Millennial Bar where he was like
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: going off about Jessica and their sex life being so horrible.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: And this is to highlight mainly how Breezy and Ashley
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: aren't really girls girls. They weren't defending jess in that
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: moment whatsoever. And then after the flashback, we do have
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Ashley apologizing to jess which I did appreciate.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I did as well, because she jumped into it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: She didn't wait for somebody to ask her what her
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: reaction was. She's like, let me just say right now,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that was inappropriate. I should not have done that. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: should have been there for you. Bree didn't do that.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: She did not agree, was just watching from the sidelines.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yep, she didn't say shit. So I did appreciate.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: That's points for me, for Ashley woe that she did
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: acknowledge that, and then to end the Jess and Chris
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: segment and the Chris and Breezy segment or Connor and Breezy. Sorry,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Jess is now dating some dude named Harmaul, who I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: guess was also at the Pods, but he was a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: reject nobody wanted to date.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: They chose to walk away, according to him, like things
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: got pretty intense between him and Jessica. Oh no, he
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was like afraid of the connection, didn't know if he
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: could take care of her heart in that way, so
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: he made the choice not to continue.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's kind of bullshit.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I wonder he saw how Jessica.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Was actually beautiful in real life and then was like, oh, actually, Jessica,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: we had such a great connection, and now that Chris
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: is dumb to you, like, let's fuck because I know
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you're rich, and I guess har Mal's a doctor too,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: so they have that in common. And like, this whole
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: thing to me felt a little performative because Harmal, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: is like in the audience being like, jess is so
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: fucking hot, She's so beautiful and amazing, She's a whole
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: pack like Chris, you really missed out, Like it felt.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Very Yeah, there was just something about it that was cringey.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And I hope for Jessica's sake that he is real
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: me too, and authentic, and that he really can see
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the lovely person that she is, because honestly, I believe
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: her when she says she's intentional about creating these loving
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: spaces and that she's trying to be a good person
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: on the planet and that this is what her heart is. Yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like I want the best for her therefore, But like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: when I looked at this harmall guy, I was like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: first of all, your hair is very strange. Second of all,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you actually, and I think he's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: quite a bit younger than her. I think he's even
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: younger than Chris.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: He looked young.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm hopeful for her me too.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I hope it's everything that she wants it to be,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and to hope that she's happy me too.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And then we move on to Mike and Emma, which
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: were kind of boring and so yeah, I'm bored.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing the kids. Again, I don't care.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: The only thing to me that was interesting, yeah, was
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: that apparently. According to Mike, him and Emma talked before
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: they went to the altar, and they had agreed that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they were both going to say no, that they were
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: not going to get married they weren't ready for it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But then when it came to the actual
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: alter wedding day, Emma changed her mind, and in her opinion,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it was a declaration of love, and she wanted to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: show him her commitment to having kids with him one day,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: so she made sure to say yes at the altar,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and according to Mike, he was blindsided by that. He
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: didn't appreciate it. He felt like even her changing her
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: mind on that day was just indicative of the fact
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: that she's always going to change her mind. She's very
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: wishy washy, and she's not committed to it and committed
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to having kids with him. And so they ultimately broke up.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And now he's dating some other chick.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Who was in the audience, uh huh, who they panned to.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Then they panned back to Emma and she did not
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: look happy. No, she did not looked really unhappy that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he has moved on, that he's found another love. This
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: was the segment though, where Vanessa says something to them like, yeah,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that's why we ask you guys to wait until you're
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: at the altar to actually make your decision, because when
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you're at the alter, it's like all of the emotionality
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: comes rushing in, which I'm like, no, Like I'm going
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to try and make that decision before I get to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the altar, like I knew I wanted to marry my
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: husband when I said yes to the proposal exactly, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: then we got married. Like, don't wait until the moment
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of the altar to come to that decision, which is
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: what I think happened with Jordan and Amber, which I
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: said last week, because I fully believe Jordan went to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the altar wanting to say no, but he was overcome
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: with this false emotionality and how gracious Amber was being.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: He ultimately said yes, and then, of course it didn't
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: work out. So I just thought that was an interesting point,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like they're asking these people to wait in their minds
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to make that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Decision, but that's not realistic. It's it's not prudent, no,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: not at all. So I'm glad to hear that they're
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: not together, though.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't care anymore. I don't ever want
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to see them again on my television. I just don't care.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: And Emma just stay in therapy, girl, you need it
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: for real. Then we move on to Ashley and Alex,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and of course we have to grill Alex from the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: start about him being a liar and him using a
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: bunch of word salad and him not being one authentic.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And unpopular opinion over here.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I know you've got an unpopular.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: My unpopular opinion is that he approached this in exactly
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the right way. You know, I agree with you because
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he said what I lie about, show me where I lied,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: show me where it happened, because I did not lie,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And the way he ended up being able to frame
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it was no. She was always asking me these questions
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: and I kept giving her the same answer, but I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: like trying to bring up more details because she keeps
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: asking these questions and I'm getting interrogated by her father.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's not the fact that I'm lying, it's that you're
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: constantly grilling me. And it's because you were with somebody
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: for five years. That dude didn't treat you well and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: he cheated on you, and I'm really sorry about that,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: but that's not something I did to you. I never cheated, yep,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, that actually makes sense?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Now do I think that he's a liar? Though? I do?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Do I think that he was lying at Ashley? Yes?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And I think she knew it. She could feel it,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: she clocked it. She was intuitive about it, but she
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: could not point to a specific time where he actually lied.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: And she He's like, well, what do you want me
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to do? Do you want me to show up to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the conversation with your dad, not polished, not rise like
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: it was important? Of course I showed up that way.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I had my answers ready, like it
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: was an interview because her dad was kind of interviewing
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: him and cross examining him, and her dad was coming
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: on strong even at that first interaction, like it was
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of questions to be asked of.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I do think there's two things going on. Alex is
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: a bit of a word salad Corpo, like loser who
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: just always has to over explain things to make himself
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: seem smarter or more professional.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It's an emotional tick, though it doesn't necessarily mean he's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: intentional about it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it probably is because of his own insecurities
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and stuff like you had mentioned last week, like he
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: feels the need to overcompensate in that way, and it
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: comes off to like everybody else, like very disingenuous, very rehearsed,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and annoying. But Ashley, I think is also a bit annoying,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Like I could totally see her asking him one thousand
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: questions all the time because she wants to get the
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: facts right. Remember, she is a virgo, so she's constantly
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: over analyzing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Things, cross referencing, cross.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Referencing and going crazy because she wants to get the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent true. But the fact of the matter
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: is is like life is not black and white like that,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of gray. And I'm sure with Alex
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: being a total hobo homeless, not having an actual lease
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and everything, like, it's hard to get all of the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: details one hundred percent right. And he talks about this
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: in the sense of like this was the main issue
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: affecting their physical intibacy, Like it wasn't just the fact
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that he, you know, had a specific type of girl
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: that he was primarily attracted to. It was also the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: fact that Ashley was always on his ass about everything
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and so he couldn't get hard.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Pretty much. That's basically when it kind of comes down
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: to that, right, Yeah, I think that she wounded him,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: uh huh at the altar. I think so too, And
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: he was coming into the reunion wanting to pay that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: back a little bit. But the way I'm coming around
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: as a mom and as an oh head, okay, I'm
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: fifty seven years old, everybody, like, I've been on the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: planet for a long long time. You know what people
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: do when they've been neglected, And what does it mean
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to be neglected? It means you haven't been tended to.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You really haven't been seen. You've been invisible? Is you
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you kick up a fuss, And you can do that
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: by acting out, acting poorly, And sometimes people do that
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: through talking a lot. Actually, when people use words like
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: um and like and there's a lot of filler words
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: in the sentences they use. It's often indicative to growing
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: up with like a lot of siblings and like having
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to fight for a position in the conversation or a
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: place in the conversation, and or like not having people
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: pay attention to you, so you want to continue to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: talk so they're listening and so that they see you
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and when I look at a guy like Alex and
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the way that he speaks and his emotional ticks, it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: kind of giving neglect. And I said last week, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: would not be a bit surprised if this boy was
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: abused as a child in ways beyond neglect personally. But
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I just I feel like it's a function of his
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: inner child needing to be seen and heard, and so
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: he's just saying fucking words all the time. You know,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: he relies on words like confidently and candidly and respectfully
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever the stupid words are. But it's because inside,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's dying to be seen.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: And I think with Ashley, she's a damaged person in
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: her own right totally.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: She's coming from a very egocentric father and a quiet
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: mother what was going on in that home right right?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: And a father who is very direct and very powerful,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and so she's got this sense of herself that's very interesting,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and we would wonder how that would assert itself in
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: a relationship with a guy like Alex, and he probably
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: just didn't know how to handle that. And I don't
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: want to give him to he fucking lied, I believe it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably a cheater. Like, don't get me
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: wrong here, I'm just saying, when these two personalities collide,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of weird shit that's happening.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And that's what I think is going on with Alex.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's as black and white as he's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a bad person, yeah, or she's just a fucking vapid
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: barbie doll. I think there's so many other psychological things
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: going on, which is why I think he showed up
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: to the reunion to kind of get back at her
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: for embarrassing him and humiliating him in front of his
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: family and friends. And I kind of think he did it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: He kind of came out better than she did. She
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: looked superficial, yeah, and petty rolling her eyes and being
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like ugh yeah, And He's just like, actually, just tell
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: me what I did though. You can't, though, can you,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: because I didn't do it exactly. I lived in Austin
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: four times.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: What like, bitch what?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And she even talks about it in the reunion like, well,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I knew he was going to reject me at the altar,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: so I made sure to interrupt him in his vows,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: and I made sure to go first so that way
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I could reject him first. So I'm like, okay, that's
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: what I said last week. I'm like, you're totally prepping
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: this huge fucking speech that you didn't really need to do,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: but you did the as a way to prove to yourself,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: prove to Alex that like, no, actually, like I'm an
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: empowered woman and a beautiful whatever, and like your opinions
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: mean nothing to me. You could have just ended it
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: before going to the altar.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: You could have, just like DeVante did, called out the wedding,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: called out the wedding, like right, you didn't have to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: do it this way.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: You didn't have to humiliate him and then call out
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: his integrity and make it seem like he was this
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: cheating asshole, because there's also rumors going around now after
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: this reunion that apparently allegedly Ashley was cheating on Alex
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: the entire time. Yeah, so, like, okay, pop calling the kettle.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Girl, the real problem here is that you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: weren't his type exactly, and that he didn't think you
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: were pretty. Like you can't understand a world where some
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: guy doesn't think you're the hottest woman in the room.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the problem. He just couldn't take
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the ego damage, emotional dab actually of him not thinking
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: she was like the hottest girl in the world.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she thought he was the hottest guy ever.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, and that's it.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I thought you were so fucking hot, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: like you're not attracted to all of this, And it's like, well,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: maybe he's not, okay, sue him. He likes busty Latina's.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Well, and he tried to say, like, at some point though,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: if I'm living with you and you keep taking me
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to task and trying to do my inventory all the time,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna be as physically responsive to you exactly.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's just a complete mess totally.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: But it's over now yet and they can move on.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And I have a little bit of sympathy for Alex
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: come out now.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: You're kind of making me have more sympathy for him too,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: because I totally can see it, like with how he
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: overcompensates in his language and stuff. And it also can
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: bring up a bigger conversation about like how men's issues
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: really aren't talked about and men's emotionalities aren't really talked about,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Like we don't really talk about men's mental health and
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and their feelings and stuff, and men are taught not
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to feel and not to be emotional, so they do
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: overcompensate in these dumb fucking ways, like through big cars,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, I've got a big dick.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I make a lot of money. Exactly, you don't.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly, I don't know.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So well, yeah, nobody taught these men how to be
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in touch with their feelings and to express them and
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to work through them.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Whether that's like a global issue with men, we could
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: argue that we could talk about that, but like with
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: these men in particular, I do think that's going on.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I agree. And the other thing that came out of
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Ashley and Alex's segment is that apparently Alex lives in Phoenix,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Arizona now and he's got a roommate who happens to
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: be Davante, and that segues into the last couple of
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the season, Brittany and Davante, And this was kind of
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I thought this was pretty fucking juicy.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I thought this was really great.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: It was so apparently Brittany was still hopeful even after
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Davante called off the wedding because he was telling her,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: according to Brittany, that we're still gonna be together, We're
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: still gonna be engaged, We're gonna get married one day.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I just want to work on our relationship. I need
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: to work on myself. I need to take a two
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: week vacation where I don't talk to you at all,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time, Like I need to
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: ghost you for two weeks and see if I still
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: want to be with you. And Brittany went along with it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I think Nick and Vanessa kind of call her out
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: for that. They're like, why were you simping after Davonte,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Like what the fuck? He was obviously not into you
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: from the jump. But Brittany apparently had no idea what
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: DeVante's true feelings were about her until after she saw
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: like the episodes of Stuff come out where he was
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: interviewed one on one and he was talking about how
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Brittany was his shadow and she was just a little
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: pressuring him too much and he just was getting cold feet,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and he was put off by the fact that she
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: had bought her wedding dress already. And she is very
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: clear to clarify, like I disclose that in the pods.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know why that was an issue. After the fact,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: this is all a bunch of bullshit and she kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: of starts going off on him.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: M mm.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And this was really good.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I thought so as well. I don't think he was
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: prepared for it at all. Here is another man who
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: is not a good orator. No, he doesn't know how
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to speak up or represent himself. But I do just
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: want to register for the dumpster that even though he
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: didn't ghost her on their wedding day, he did end
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: up ghosting her. He did because he told her like, no, yeah,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: we're totally still together and then just bounce yep, and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: didn't clarify, was not direct with her, didn't tell her
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: straight up, hey, I'm not into it is never going
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: to happen. And then we get to the trip to Austin.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, because apparently at one point near the end of
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: their relationship, Davante said he had to take a work
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: trip to Michigan and Britty he's like, okay, that's fine.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: But at the time that he says this, as far
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: as Brittany is concerned, they are together. They are still engaged.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Yep, still engaged, still going to marry each other. But
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: then apparently Davante didn't go to work, he didn't go
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: to Michigan. He went to Austin to go see a
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: concert or something Rufus, and it was apparently he was
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: invited by Ashley and Breezy, who were going to the
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: same concert.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: They were out for dinner one night with Davante. Davonte
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Davante and mentioned that they were going to Austin and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I like Rufus to Soul as well,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you ought to come with us,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and so they invited him, which is just all weird anyway,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: because Brie and Ashley and Prianca, I don't know who's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: at the dinner. They're all out to dinner, but Connor's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: not there, which is fine, you can go out without
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: your partner or whatever. But like it was never relayed
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: back to Connor, yeah, that they had invited Davante, who
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: ended up going.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Yep, because Connor even said on the panel, like I
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: thought this was a girls strip because it was originally
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: it sounded like to me, it kind of felt like
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Davante invited himself. It kind of felt like they mentioned
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: they were going to Rufus and He's like, Oh, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: like rufus too, Maybe I should buy a ticket and
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: go out there. Because we find out in the reunion
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: that when he went to Austin, he allegedly booked an Airbnb,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: and then when he got there, the Airbnb didn't confirm
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: his reservation, so he apparently had to stay at Prianca's apartment.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Where Ashley and Debrie also were.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: And it seemed like Brittany found all of this out
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: through Amber, who again, she's the only girls girl on
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: this fucking correct, the only one that cares, and I
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: don't know how Amber found Jordan. Seemed like Jordan found
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: out and then he didn't want to say where he
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: got the information from. So all of this, to surmise
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: is that Ashley and Brie and Prianca suck.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Totally because Britney's point here was, but y'all knew that
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I was engaged to him, I had a ring on
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: my finger. You knew that we were in a relationship.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Did nobody think to maybe just call me and say, hey,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, we invited Davante to Austin and or
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Davante just invited himself to Austin's or just heads up
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: in case you don't know that none of those girls
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: thought to even consult with Brittany, who that was her fiancee.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: So Brittany has a real big problem with that. So
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: DeVante goes down there, And to me, DeVante's going down
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: there for Ashley. I think Ashley is his type. She's
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: whiter than white, she's almost translucent. There's no melanin in
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: her at all, and we know that DeVante loves that
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: most of all. And so he's going down there, I
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: think to shoot a shot with Ashley. Oh, I think so.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: And so he makes up some story about having an Airbnb,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: which he never booked. He never had, and it's because
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Priyanka's like, you need to get yourself an Airbnb. You
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: can stay here tonight or whatever. But it's kind of weird. Yeah,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you need to get your own place. So the very
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: next day he does do that. He's shady.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: He is shady.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: He's a fuck boy. And it's shocking to me, as
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the old lady in the room, that there's anybody cracking
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it open for that toll tech headed Like.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: You mean really though, Like there's nothing redeemable about this
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: man to me whatsoever. I don't see how any woman
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: could get wet for him, Like really, I'm like, he's
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: seriod so fucking bad and he can't ever be one
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: hundred percent authentic in anything that he's saying. He's always
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: like giving half truth. He's always lying by omission, and
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, just say it with your full
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: fucking chest, dude, why do you have to lie about everything?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: It's because he can't be one honest about anything.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: He's a coward.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: He is a coward. And so we have this argument
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: about the girl's trip slash work trip, and Brittany is
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: pissed off, rightfully so by these women who didn't.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Tell her anything.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: And you know, you can make an argument like maybe
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: DeVante was lying to the other girls and telling them
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: like they were still together, because Brie does kind of
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: say that, Ashley does kind of say that, like, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: DeVante was giving us that you guys were still together.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: That they were broken up, that I thought they thought
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: they were broken I don't remember.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: It was very it was very like wishy washy, because
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: at one point they did say, like, you know, DeVante
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: was telling us that you guys were still together. But
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: then at another point we hear that like DeVante had
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: told them that they were, that Brittany.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And him were splitting then together right, and that.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: They were no longer together. So obviously the route starts
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: with Davante in being not truthful and then he gets
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: everybody else in this mess. That's what I kind of think.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: But I also think that Breezy and Ashley kind of
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: said yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a question, because at one point
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: he's saying, no, we're together, and another point it's like, no,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: we're not together. Then I'm immediately on the phone with
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Brittany exactly going, hey, it's up girl. Even before that
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: exact I'm talking to Brittany first ye and say saying, hey,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I went out to dinner with Davante in the first place,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and hey, while we were at dinner, Davante invited himself
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: along on our trip, just to let you know, like
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: none of those girls even thought to do that. Yeah, Natalie,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: you can hear Brie actually say on stage, well, I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: don't have to ask permission to go on a trip
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: with somebody.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: She doesn't understand. She's so busy platforming men all the time.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: She's so busy like looking for her alpha male, that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: she could give two shits about the women in her life,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and when we were talking with Jessica, Jessica also like crying, crying,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: saying this, like what hurt me more than the terrible
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: things Chris said was the fact that these women entertained
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: it for as long as they did. And then of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: course we had Ashley jump in at that point, but
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Brie never said any thing exactly. She does not care.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: No, she doesn't at all.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: And so after we kind of clear up, not really,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: but like we kind of get over this conversation about
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: the girl's trip. Then we have Britney's dad in the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: audience asking Davante questions, which I really loved because we
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: saw in the show Davante or Sorry, Britney's dad actually
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: really liked Davante for some reason. He thought he was
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: a really nice guy and he was really happy that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: he was going to marry Brittany. But at the reunion
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: we have Britney's dad being like, were you telling me
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: the truth? Did you lie to me?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: First though, he's like, how are you doing Davante? I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: hated that, though, are you okay? That was so catching
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of heat right now, oh bo I hated
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: that as soon as he said that I was not
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: listening to Britney's dad anymore, and I felt like he
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: was very performative and I was like not interested in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: his cringe commentary.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I did like that. He did end up calling
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: him out, though, like because he's like, Brittany gave you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: five options to get out of the relationship, Like why
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: didn't you take any of those options she gave you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: multiple times?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I don't quit. I'm not a quitter.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: That was cringe.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Davante's answers He could not answer her dad, because the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: truth of the matter is that you didn't like Brittany
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: from the jump. You went through this whole experiment because
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: you wanted to get clout and you wanted to make
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: money from Netflix or whatever. And then you dumped her
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and you ghosted her. But you couldn't even do it
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: in a manly or respectful way.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: You just ghosted, right.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: It's cringe. And then we find out that Davante is
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: now engaged and is going to be a.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Dad and whoever he's engaged too is living in Ohio.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I think in the house that he has there based
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: on what he said, but in the meantime, he's actually
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: living in Arizona. With Alex. Yeah, so you have a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: woman who's pregnant in Ohio that you knocked up, honey,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and you're not even living with her, so she's fending
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: for herself. I don't even know if she's living in
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: your home or if she's living in her own home
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: or her parents home.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: But you left her and.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Now you're living in Phoenix, Arizona with fuck with Alex.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Don't you care about your toll tech baby?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: You have nothing to say for yourself. I really wanted
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: to be a husband and a father. Well here's your opportunity,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: and you're not even there. And there's so much chatter
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: online about how he was cheating on this pregnant girl
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: with the ex that came out and talked about how
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: he didn't like black women. Like, there's just like all
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: these women in the background, And again I have to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: ask you, young beautiful women, like, what are we doing
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: with men like DeVante? Why are we cracking it open
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: for this guy? Why aren't we requiring people like this
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: to wear condoms? Yeah? I just don't understand, but I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: guess it is what it is. But he's all upset.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Davante is all upset guys about the coverage that he's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: been getting on the internet, and in particular, the podcast
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: commentary that he's been receiving.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I hope he's listening right now.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I hope you're listening, You absolute asshole.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: You ain't ship, You ain't.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: She made an Instagram post just today.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Are we gonna read it? Yeah?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: We should read it. Let's read it all right?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: All right? So this is a long Instagram post, but
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: he had to go off for all the haters. So
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: this is what he said. Quote, It's honestly wild how
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: many miserable people are upset that I chose not to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: stay in a relationship that wasn't right for me.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna put a toll tech head on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: you while you're talking, right, please do? Okay?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: The narrative that I had led Brittany on is just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that a narrative. She's a grown woman who could have
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: left at any point. What you saw was ME being
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: real instead of forcing a marriage just to satisfy people
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: watching from their couches. Was Brittany my usual type? No,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: not particularly someone I probably wouldn't have approached in real life.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't equal hate. I've never boxed myself into
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: a type, and my past speaks for itself. At the reunion,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: there was even a clip of her asking if I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: had dated a woman of color. I answered honestly, but
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: like a lot of things, the full context wasn't shown.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: The people in that room saw it, and that's enough
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: for me. What I'm not going to do is let
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: podcasters and internet commentators create a false narrative. We're going
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: to not one of them has reached out for a
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: real conversation that should tell you everything. They don't want truth,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: they want attention, and too many people online feed into
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: drama and half stories. The reality is simple. Brittany and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't work because what she needed and what I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: needed were fundamentally different. There were repeated moments of insecurity,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: constant comparisons to my past, and shifting expectations that made
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: it clear we were on the same page. Even boundaries
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: she set were later turned into criticisms, and that kind
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: of inconsistency isn't something I'm willing to build a future on.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: That's just me being honest.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I came into this
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: experience open and I grew from it, and I learned
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: to be more direct and to stop sacrificing my peace
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: to keep others comfortable. And to the people speaking on
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: my current relationship, mocking my partner and even bringing up.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Our future Toltech child.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: That's just sad. We as humans need to do better
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: about judging people we've never met.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: And had a real conversation with.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I am happy, I am in love, and I can't
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: wait to meet our baby. Have a blessed day. And
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: for the people saying I downgraded, that's crazy because because
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: clearly you haven't seen her. She is the most beautiful
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: woman I have ever seen walk this planet. And what
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: makes her even more beautiful is her heart and how
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: she speaks about others and rooms they aren't in. I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: love you, baby, and no one could ever convince me otherwise.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: A diamond doesn't need to be reminded. Did that anyone
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: is a diamond? It just shines. I'm glad the journey
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: led me to you.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Beatrice.
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  Speaker 3: What Beatrice?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: That guy sucks so bad.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: He sucks so bad.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: It's great that you have all these opinions and thoughts
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: about Brittany and what wasn't working. But do you think,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: your big dunderhead, you could have maybe said something in
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the moment Hello to Brittany to let her know that
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you weren't feeling that instead of stringing her along and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: telling her that you still loved her and you wanted
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to be engaged and you're not a quitter and all
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: this bullshit. Do you think you could have just opened
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: your fucking mouth and been honest and direct you literal, baby.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: No, he literally can't. And that's what's so frustrating. It's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: like you want to say all this shit and be like, oh,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: it's people aren't getting the full context. It's just a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: bad edit, and like, actually, I'm not racist. It's like, dude,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: it's not even about that. It's about the fact that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: you told Brittany over and over again, like we're going
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: to stay engaged and I still want to be with
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: you and everything. I just don't want to get married
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: right now, and blah blah blah. And then, according to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Brittany on the reunion, you like strung out the relationship
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: for weeks and weeks and weeks after that, like you
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: can't be honest.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: And that's the problem, maybe even honest with yourself. Yeah,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: and maybe there was a conversation during the reunion about
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: why you don't date black women, Like you don't say
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: definitively in this Instagram post whether you have yeah, you
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: just say it was addressed and don't worry. I'm just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: happy that people heard it in the room. But like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you don't let us know what the answer to that is,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: which kind of tells me what the answer to that is.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: But because it's just the fact that you can't handle
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: your business like an actual man, a self determining man
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: who knows what he wants. Now to point or his
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: accusation that there are people out there who are coming
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: for his new girl and talking about how she looks
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and their baby, that is not okay. Yeah, although we
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: do stuff like we do, but I mean we're entitled to.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like it's our job.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: It's our job, that's what we were hired to do.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: But no, honestly though, in all seriousness, like to people
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: who like, we don't know who this woman is. We
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: haven't been able to judge her character or her behavior,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: so like we shouldn't be coming for her physical attributes
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: or anything like it. That's nasty that his toll tech
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: baby's that is mean to call it baby a toll
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Tech baby.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: What.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Let's just hope the genetics err on the side of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the mom Yeah, for real, I just I can't stand
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: dudes like this. Man, it is so hard for you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: to take an ounce of responsibility for the terrible way
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that you treat other people. How can I trust you
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: with anything that you say when I've seen how you've
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: conducted yourself on this show, Like, get fucked and get
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: the fuck off my television. I never want to see
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: your a body again. Seriously, God, I'm sorry, I'm yelling.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Look at those wavelengths. I know I'm going crazy. I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: just this is why Amber has a rage problem. Yeah,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: because of men like this. This is why Amber's a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: missandrist because of men like this, which she actually called
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: out Chris for. She in the moment, she's like, I mean,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Jordan's not like Chris or anything. Oh yeah, it's fuck
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Chris and fuck Alex, but like, Jordan's not that way.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: But these are the kind of guys that give guys
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: a bad rap.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like you're just putting all the blame
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: on everybody else instead of looking at your own behavior
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: and editing.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Oh like you just didn't see the real meaning because
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: of the way they edited it. Well, I saw what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you allowed them to capture on camera, though, I saw
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: the things that you did say and the things that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: you did do.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of the shit that you didn't say, like,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: because you were giving us two different things, even in
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: your like little one on ones that you had versus
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: what you were telling Brittany, Like it was clear you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: were giving her bullshit because you didn't want to just
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: have the hard conversation of like, you know what, Britty,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: you're a nice girl. I'm just not feeling the vibes.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get married period, period.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: How hard it's just say, that's one hard conversation. Be
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: enough of a not even man, just be enough of
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: an adult to be able to have one hard conversation.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I know you can do it, DeVante, I mean, Devo.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: You were even lying to her dad, Like her dad
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: cried in front of you. I don't know why. I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: don't know day people see in you, but like you
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: even lied to her father. Her her father was like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: he's a liar. That is just a big deal. You
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: shouldn't get divorced, Like we don't believe in that show.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, but Brittany's dad, what if you taught your daughter
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: that she's so deluded and crazy that she thinks marriage
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: is the end all be all of her womanly existence.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Like what happened in your home that created the girl
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: like this who was believing Davante? Yeah, and DeVante was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: her so may like, Okay, there's a lot of conversations
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: we can have. Let's just stop talking about DeVante because
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I hate him so much.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Sucks so bad, and it's really unfortunate that he found
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: another girl so quickly and he's going to have a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: whole kid with her, and that's on that.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: So that's the end. That's the wrap of Love is
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Blind Season ten. Do we did we grade this season yet?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah? We did last ten?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: And I think you gave it. I gave it to
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: be plus. You gave it a see something.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get a plus because it was Love is.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Mid it is you know.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: What I heard though, is that they're going to have
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: an ultimatum here shortly what is it?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: A queer one? Though it's not because the queer one
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: got canceled.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: The queer one was the best one out of it.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I know, the queer one was the best one out
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: of them all. But there's gonna be another ultimatum. Do
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: you want to cover it or not?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Might watch that because it is pretty messy. I do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: like that show because it's just people going on there
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: to cheat.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm giving you an ultimatum, marry me or
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: we're breaking up, and then you go and marry someone
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: else for three weeks to see if it's okay to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: marry me. Like, that's just nothing but drawing. It's perfection.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: It's like Temptation Island, so I'm been to it.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: There's another Temptation is starting in April. There is a
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Temptation Island from last year fully up there already that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: we could cover too. Anyway, there's a whole lot going on,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: but for now, what we are doing after Love is Blind,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: which we've just concluded. Just so you know we've concluded this,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: We've got welcome to Plaithfills starting on March thirty. First,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: we're pinuing with our Sister Wife's coverage. We're watching The
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Substance on Patreon this month. We are also covering Little
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Women of La and they're wilding out. They are wild
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: out in La. There's a lot that we're doing. Yeah,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: and so thank you guys, for doing it with us.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: We truly appreciate it. We do, Beatrice. Is there anything
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: else that we want to say to these beautiful raccoons
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: before we get up on out of here.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Well, if you love us as much as we love you,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: please show your gratitude and go to your favorite podcast platform.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Leave us a glowing five star review. Really helps us
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: grow the pod and we would really appreciate it, so
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: thank you very much.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: We are not going to be here next week. We
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: are taking a spring break.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a party.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: We are going to Panama City. We're gonna be getting drunk.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be putting on bikinis. I'm gonna be showing
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: my whole chocha, honey, maboo basocha. I'm gonna be out
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: there just having fun. So I'm gonna take a little
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: bit break. She's gonna take a little bit of a break.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: We'll be back the week after to start Plackville and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: continue our Sister Wife's journey on. Tell them please do
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: not forget that we have nothing but love for you
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: And pease all light