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  Speaker 3: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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  Speaker 4: So we begin with Game five of the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 4: Is OKC gets it done? They win by eleven points.
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  Speaker 4: Final score one to one oh nine. Thunder Knee. Just
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  Speaker 4: one more win. They are one win away from an
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  Speaker 4: NBA championship. So first things first, and we'll get to
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  Speaker 4: the controversy here shortly. Jalen Williams was fantastic. Forty points
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  Speaker 4: for OKC. Efficient forty points. It's not like you're back
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  Speaker 4: in the day Carmelo Anthony. Forty points where he took
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  Speaker 4: forty eight shots. You know, forty points, fourteen for twenty
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  Speaker 4: five from the field, three for five from three, also
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  Speaker 4: sprinkled in six rebounds, four assists. Great game for Jalen Williams.
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  Speaker 4: Forty Burger came up Big SGA League MVP. He was
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  Speaker 4: steady thirty one points, a little more inefficient, a little
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  Speaker 4: inefficient nine for twenty one, but still thirty one, ten assists.
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  Speaker 2: He had zero.
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  Speaker 4: Assists in each of the last two games, so ten
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  Speaker 4: dimes for SGA. Now we get to the controversy that
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  Speaker 4: would be ty Reese Halliburton had a very quiet game,
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  Speaker 4: only scored four points, did not hit a shot from
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  Speaker 4: the field, oh for six from the floor, including zero
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  Speaker 4: for four from three. He did have seven rebounds and
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  Speaker 4: he had six assists, but he tweaked his right calf
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  Speaker 4: and he didn't make a shot in thirty four minutes,
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  Speaker 4: not one shot for the floor, and.
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  Speaker 2: He still played thirty four minutes.
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  Speaker 4: So the controversy in the second guessing, we're looking right
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  Speaker 4: at the Indiana Pacers head coach Rick Carlyle. He should
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  Speaker 4: have played TJ McConnell more. TJ McConnell should have been
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  Speaker 4: getting minutes in the fourth quarter instead of Tyrese Halliburton.
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  Speaker 4: Haliburton was not himself. He was banged up, he was struggling. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: TJ McConnell is just doing TJ McConnell things. He played great,
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  Speaker 4: played for what twenty two minutes, scored eighteen points at
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  Speaker 4: four assists. He was collapsing okc's defense. He was getting
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  Speaker 4: to his spots. Other guys were open because of this,
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  Speaker 4: and Rick Carlyle stuck with Halliburton. And there's a popular saying.
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  Speaker 4: You might subscribe to this thought, dance with who brung you? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we need to amend this. You don't dance with who
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  Speaker 4: brung you. If that guy isn't healthy enough to dance, right,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta go to Plan B. I'm all for dancing
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  Speaker 4: with who brung you, but if they can't hit the
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  Speaker 4: dance floor, you gotta dance with somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way it goes. And that's what it was
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  Speaker 2: in game five.
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  Speaker 4: And listen, I'll meet him halfway because I can understand
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  Speaker 4: the thinking where you're like, hey, Halliburton is our guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's gotten us here.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he has a good fourth quarter, he's moving around enough.
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  Speaker 4: You kind of just talk yourself into it, and you're thinking,
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  Speaker 4: without having access to the results, you're thinking, maybe he
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  Speaker 4: does turn it on. Maybe he has a couple of assists,
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he has a couple of big shots.
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  Speaker 2: But that was wishful thinking.
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  Speaker 4: It just was not realistically going to happen based on
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  Speaker 4: how you saw him play throughout the game. And so Carlisle,
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  Speaker 4: he went with Haliburton, he danced with who brung.
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  Speaker 2: Him, and he was let down.
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  Speaker 4: He was let down by Halliburton, even though he will
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  Speaker 4: never say that, but he has to be second guessing
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  Speaker 4: himself that he has access to the results. Are you
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  Speaker 4: telling me Carlisle doesn't sit there and think, man, I
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  Speaker 4: should have seen that coming. Helliburton didn't make a shot
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  Speaker 4: all night. Why would I think he was all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden gonna play great in the fourth quarter. That
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  Speaker 4: was just not a great decision by me. I'd be
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  Speaker 4: thinking those things if I were him. He's probably thinking
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  Speaker 4: those exact same things. But that was an opportunity missed.
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  Speaker 4: And the difference in the game really was a couple
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  Speaker 4: of things. Jalen Williams who went for the forty piece.
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  Speaker 4: It was all these Pacers turnovers, my lord. Twenty three
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  Speaker 4: turnovers by the Pacers led to thirty two points for OKC.
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  Speaker 2: That is way too many turnovers.
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  Speaker 4: We do you have over twenty turnovers in a game,
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  Speaker 4: especially in an NBA Finals game, and it fuels the
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  Speaker 4: other team's offense. That is you're gonna get killed just
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  Speaker 4: by that alone. And then it was also a huge
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  Speaker 4: run in the fourth quarter by the Thunder. So the
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  Speaker 4: Pacers they trailed by eighteen points. And I call them
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  Speaker 4: the zombies of the sports world, and I mean that
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  Speaker 4: in a complimentary way, where they just you think they're
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  Speaker 4: dead and they just keep coming after you, like one
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  Speaker 4: of those random movies where his guy's barely walk is
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  Speaker 4: like and you're like, I don't have to worry about him,
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  Speaker 4: and five minutes later that guy just snuck up on
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  Speaker 4: you and you're like, where did he come from?
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  Speaker 2: That's the Pacers.
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  Speaker 4: The Pacers are like a horror film where the zombies
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  Speaker 4: just keep coming after you and they.
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  Speaker 2: Won't go away. So that's what the Pacers did. They're
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  Speaker 2: down by eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: They cut it to a two point deficit with eight
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  Speaker 4: thirty left in the game, throwing down by two. And
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  Speaker 4: then what happened There was an eighteen to four run
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  Speaker 4: by OKC right after the Pacers got it down to two.
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  Speaker 4: Eighteen to four run. It swung the entire game. It
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  Speaker 4: started with a Jalen Williams three, then Nemhard had a
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  Speaker 4: bad pass. Bad communication going on there, communication breakdown and
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  Speaker 4: it led to an easy bucket for OKC. That's what
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  Speaker 4: led to an eighteen to four run. And during that run,
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  Speaker 4: this is really hideous stuff. If you're a Pacers fan,
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  Speaker 4: you might start vomiting here when I go over some
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  Speaker 4: of this stuff. But the Pacers committed four consecutive turnovers,
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  Speaker 4: four straight possessions, four straight turnovers, and it led to points.
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  Speaker 4: Every time there was a bad pass by Nemhard led
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  Speaker 4: to an SGA bucket and one he made the free throw.
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  Speaker 4: Haliburton had a bad pass led to a Jalen Williams
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  Speaker 4: layup Nemhard. Another bad pass led to free throws for
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Williams. Another Haliburton bad pass it led to SGA
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  Speaker 4: free throws. Four consecutive turnovers in one minute of game time.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other crazy. This happened in the span of
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  Speaker 4: one minute.
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  Speaker 2: They turned it.
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  Speaker 4: Over four times in that span. This is what blows
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  Speaker 4: my mind. OKASEE led by only two points with eight
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  Speaker 4: thirty to play. OKAC then led by sixteen points with
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  Speaker 4: five minutes left following that run.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's flung the entire game.
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  Speaker 4: And so now the Pacers they lose back to back
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  Speaker 4: games for the first time this postseason, and they lose
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  Speaker 4: back to back games for the first time since March tenth.
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  Speaker 4: Think about that, that's over three months ago. They haven't
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  Speaker 4: lost back to back games a lot of those against
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  Speaker 4: some of the best teams in the playoffs. Is the
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  Speaker 4: first time in three months the Pacers have dropped two straight.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy stuff and the scary thing for the Pacers in
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  Speaker 4: Game six, the series has not done yet and the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the league is Okasee is the youngest team
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  Speaker 4: to reach the finals in forty eight years. They're a
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  Speaker 4: whisker away from winning it, and they are going to
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  Speaker 4: be a problem for a long time. And I'm just
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  Speaker 4: starting to get used to the NBA. This current NBA,
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  Speaker 4: I think is very refreshing. This will be the seventh
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  Speaker 4: straight year, whether it's OKAC or Indiana spoiler alert, it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be okay see, but it's gonna be the seventh
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  Speaker 4: straight year no matter who wins the finals, that we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a champion. That's different. Seven straight years, seven different.
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  Speaker 2: Champions, right.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's more.
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  Speaker 4: Exciting this NBA where it's like, all right, okay, see
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  Speaker 4: wins the title next year?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows gonna win a title.
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  Speaker 4: That's more interesting to me than all right, okac is
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  Speaker 4: trying to rattle off three championships in four years, or
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  Speaker 4: you know, I just the dynasty stuff and the repeat
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  Speaker 4: three peat champions. I'm just not as interested. Maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is because I was so burned by the Calves and
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  Speaker 4: Warriors that era. When they met in the finals for
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  Speaker 4: four consecutive years, four years in a row, and it
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  Speaker 4: was going into the next year, You're like, I just
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  Speaker 4: wake me When it's Caps Warriors in the finals. You
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  Speaker 4: knew that was what it was going to be. They
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  Speaker 4: were so much better than the competition. I think this
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  Speaker 4: current NBA is much more interesting. Seven straight years, seven
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  Speaker 4: new champions and think if there were one dominant team
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  Speaker 4: and what that would mean for the league, for the
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  Speaker 4: teams that have won a championship, and the ripple effect
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  Speaker 4: from that point on. If you think about these last
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  Speaker 4: seven years, Kawhi Leonard won a title with the Raptors,
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  Speaker 4: they took down the Warriors. The Warriors were the best
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  Speaker 4: candidate to continue their dynasty, but the Raptors lucked out
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  Speaker 4: and the Warriors were the walking wounded. Everybody was going down.
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  Speaker 4: Kdi went down, Clay went down. They're dropping like flies,
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  Speaker 4: injuries galore. The Raptors luck out they won a championship.
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  Speaker 4: Good for them. It would have changed how you thought
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  Speaker 4: about Kawhi. These teams and go for it mode, Like
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  Speaker 4: the Raptors made this blockbuster move for Kawhi and he
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  Speaker 4: had no interest in staying there. They still traded for
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  Speaker 4: the guy. Imagine if that fizzled out, didn't work out whatsoever?
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  Speaker 4: They want a title and so other teams saw that
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  Speaker 4: and they're like, oh wow, it worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be aggressive here.
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  Speaker 4: The Bucks won a championship with Jannis, The Nuggets won
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  Speaker 4: a championship with Jokic. Imagine if there was a dynasty
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  Speaker 4: and neither of those championships happened. Imagine if Giannis is
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  Speaker 4: looking for his first ring and Jokic is still looking
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  Speaker 4: for his first ring, that's all you would hear about,
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  Speaker 4: and it would be nauseating. Jokich is a three time MVP,
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  Speaker 4: he still hasn't won one ring. Blah blah blah. Lebron
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  Speaker 4: might not have a ring with the Lakers. That was
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  Speaker 4: one of the championships in these last seven years.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I like the spread the wealth NBA. And because it's
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  Speaker 4: been so like dynasty driven over the years. You think
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  Speaker 4: about the Lakers, you know, the Showtime Lakers, the nineties Bowls,
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs, it's been the Celtics back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: It's been so dynasty driven. I think this is a
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  Speaker 4: breath of fresh air. The NFL it hasn't been. It's
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  Speaker 4: been how could I say this. There have been dynasties,
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  Speaker 4: but it hasn't been to the tune of NBA dynasties.
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  Speaker 4: There's no NFL dynasty that won six championships in eight
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  Speaker 4: years and Jordan takes off two of those years, right Like,
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't happen in the NFL. It didn't happen like
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  Speaker 4: even the Spurs. Like rattling off championships to that degree
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  Speaker 4: like the Spurs did, it doesn't happen in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: like that Steelers won four of six.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably the closest thing.
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  Speaker 4: But the point is you haven't had the same dynasties
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. And so if a quote unquote dynasty
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  Speaker 4: comes along, like it's the Patriots that win three of four,
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  Speaker 4: that's like a whoa, this is a huge dynasty. That's
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  Speaker 4: the way it goes in the NFL. There's never been
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  Speaker 4: one three peat, not one. Think about all the three
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  Speaker 4: peats in the NBA. There are way more than none
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA, So don't I don't mind dynasties in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL as much like the Chiefs were just going
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  Speaker 4: for a three peat.
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  Speaker 2: But I think right there the Eagles winning it and
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  Speaker 2: spreading the wealth a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's more interesting for the league as a
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  Speaker 4: whole when the wealth is spread a little bit like that,
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  Speaker 4: and the NBA they agree, Otherwise they wouldn't have put
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  Speaker 4: into place some of these rules and some of these
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  Speaker 4: things like the reworked CBA and they have the luxury
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  Speaker 4: tax and the second apron.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to know any of this stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know it.
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  Speaker 4: But all I know, and all you need to know
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  Speaker 4: is if you exceed that second apron, man, you get walloped.
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  Speaker 4: You get a backhand right across the face, just smackolo.
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  Speaker 4: Like draft picks are frozen. There are all these penalties
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  Speaker 4: if you do that. So you can't just load up
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  Speaker 4: on Superstar after Superstar and just dominate the league. The
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  Speaker 4: league doesn't want that, Otherwise they wouldn't have put this
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  Speaker 4: into place.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I don't have an issue with it
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 4: But the whole point of this bringing it up is that,
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  Speaker 4: okayse threatens that if you're like me and you like
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of the spreading of the wealth
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  Speaker 4: and you don't like predetermined, like, hey, wake me up,
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  Speaker 4: and Okayc's back in the finals.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's interesting at all.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think they're that dominant, and I think
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  Speaker 4: the West is too good for it to be that
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  Speaker 4: kind of landscape. But OKAYC is going to be a
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  Speaker 4: problem for a long time. It wouldn't surprise me at
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  Speaker 4: all if they start rattling off championship after championship. So
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  Speaker 4: if you like the spreading of the wealth, okay, see
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  Speaker 4: threatens that, make no mistake about it. One went away
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  Speaker 4: from a title could be the first of a handful.
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  Speaker 4: Here wouldn't shock me at all.
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  Speaker 4: So this Desmond Baine trade, Desmond Baine gets traded from
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  Speaker 4: the Grizzlies to the Orlando Magic, and the Magic they
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  Speaker 4: gave up Contavious Caldwell, Pope, Cole Anthony, and they gave
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  Speaker 4: up four unprotected first round picks and one first round
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  Speaker 4: pick swap.
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  Speaker 2: That's the deal right there. Now.
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  Speaker 4: Desmond Bain is good. He's a good player. He's a
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  Speaker 4: three and D guy, very good three point shooter. But
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  Speaker 4: he isn't a rock star, he's not even an All Star.
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  Speaker 4: So this is quite a haul for a dude that's
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  Speaker 4: not even an All star, really.
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  Speaker 2: Good three point shooter.
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  Speaker 4: But man, we're talking four unprotected picks, a pick swap,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of dudes that can play KCP, Cole Antethony.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a lot to give. It's a ton.
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  Speaker 4: Some people have pointed out, like that's more than the
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  Speaker 4: Lakers gave up for Luca.
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  Speaker 2: And you could dispute that.
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  Speaker 4: You could say, Anthony Davis still plays at a very
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  Speaker 4: high level, still has some good years left. Who knows
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  Speaker 4: what the picks are going to turn into.
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  Speaker 2: So it's at.
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  Speaker 4: Least I'll say a possibility that Memphis got more for
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  Speaker 4: Desmond Bane than the the MAVs got for Luca. That's insane,
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  Speaker 4: that's insanity right there. But it's not really a Luca thing.
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  Speaker 4: I just look at the compensation here, and I would
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  Speaker 4: connect it to the NBA finals. It's still it blows
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  Speaker 4: my mind that these teams in the NBA are so
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  Speaker 4: willing to give up so much draft compensation. Now I realize,
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  Speaker 4: I want you to understand. I realize it does not
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  Speaker 4: work the same way as the NFL draft. Totally understood.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not making it out to be the same exact thing.
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  Speaker 5: We know.
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  Speaker 4: The NFL draft is much deeper in talent. You can
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  Speaker 4: find talent and difference makers role players late in the
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  Speaker 4: NFL draft.
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  Speaker 2: It happens commonly, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So if you just look at the first two rounds
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  Speaker 4: of the NFL versus NBA draft, much more talent pans out,
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  Speaker 4: let's say, in the second round in the NFL draft
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  Speaker 4: than it does in the second round of the NBA draft.
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  Speaker 4: Totally understand that. So there is going to be a difference.
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  Speaker 4: But with that being said, how huge the difference is
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  Speaker 4: Where the NFL these teams completely value draft picks. There
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  Speaker 4: are times where it's like, yeah, Randy Moss just got traded.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Randy Moss, what do you get traded for
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  Speaker 4: a fourth round pick? A fourth round pick?
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  Speaker 2: What? There are deals like that all the time, proven veteran.
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  Speaker 4: Like what they get from I got like a third
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  Speaker 4: rounder and uh they got some big league chew.
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  Speaker 2: It's football. Is this a big big league chew?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: That's just all they could get value in those draft picks.
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  Speaker 4: That's the way it goes in the NFL NBA. These
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  Speaker 4: teams are just like first round picks. They're like making
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  Speaker 4: it rain with first round picks. They're just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: go for it, Yeah, no problem. Four unprotected first round
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  Speaker 4: picks and a first round pick swap for Desmond Bane. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: that is a heavy price tag. And the other thing
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  Speaker 4: that blows my mind before we get to the NBA
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  Speaker 4: finals comparison, is that these are future picks.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what's.
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  Speaker 4: Going to happen with these teams that make these trades
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  Speaker 4: down the road. For instance, look at look at the
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  Speaker 4: Brooklyn Nets making the deal for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant
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  Speaker 4: goes to the Phoenix Suns and Brooklyn gets a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of picks in return. Now look at the Suns. Now,
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  Speaker 4: what are they gonna do. They're gonna move KD again.
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  Speaker 4: And what's gonna happen with the Suns? Well, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: lose a lot more games. They were winning many games
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  Speaker 4: with KD. Imagine if they move Booker and completely reset
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  Speaker 4: and totally bottom out. All of a sudden, these draft
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  Speaker 4: picks are premium picks.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, take our twenty forty seven first round pick.
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  Speaker 2: What a week care?
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  Speaker 4: It's like, well, if that turns into a top five pick,
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  Speaker 4: you should care. That's what happened with the Nets in reverse. Remember,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the Nets made the deal to trade for a couple
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of Celtics at the time, Paul Pierce and Kevin Durant
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: famous trade. They traded first round picks, some pick swaps,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and and shockingly, old Paul Pierce and old Kevin Gartnett
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: played like old Paul Pierce and old Kevin Gardnett. They
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: didn't win many games, and all of a sudden those
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: picks became really valuable. Nets aren't winning many games. Turned
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: into a third overall pick which was used for Jalen Brown,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: and it turned into a first overall pick, and the
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Celtics traded down to number three and still drafted Jason Tatum.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Those picks turned into Tatum and Brown, and the Nets
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: are like, yeah, let's get Paul Pierson KG, let's go.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: They're like, here's the first rounder, here's another first rounder,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: here's a pick swap.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds great.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: The Celtics are like, okay, cool, well, weset our whole
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: franchise with this trade. And so that's what I think
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: at least has the possibility of happening. Another good example
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: would be present day. Look at the Milwaukee Bucks trading
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: for Damian Lillard. Think about Portland who made that deal.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: They didn't want to let Dame go, but they had to.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Dame was ready to compete for a championship. The Blazers
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: were resetting. They were gonna be nowhere close to competing
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: for a championship. Now look where things are. Dame got hurt,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: jacked up his achilles. Now we don't know if Jannis
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: is gonna be back. What if Jannis is gone, Look
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: at that roster, even with Giannis on it, they're basically
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: the Westbrook Thunder right now.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: If Jannis is back this year.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Surrounded by a below average supporting cast at best, Giannis
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: is gonna go freaking ballistic and the Bucks are gonna
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: lose a good amount of games. It's just a matter
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: of time until the Bucks deal Yannis.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: They should do it this offseason.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe they dragged their feet and they do it next
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: off season. Whatever it happens, the Bucks are resetting. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: the point is if the Bucks have no Yiannis and
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: now they're really bottoming out and they're really trying to reset, hey,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: let's try to Let's try to recoup some of these
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: draft picks. Let's just move all of our other assets
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: and reset completely. Well, all of a sudden, if they
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: bought them out, those picks sent to Portland, those become
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: premium picks. So it's just blows my mind that team
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: after team after team is still willing to make these deals.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I get it, if you get a true superstar, the
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: top ten player, fine, Desmond Bane is not close to
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: a top ten player, and you're giving away these draft
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: picks like no big deal. And this is where I
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: would bring it back to the NBA finals, because we
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: tend to act that only lottery picks pan out in
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the NBA, and it's just not true. If you look
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: at these finals, it's a good example of some quote
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: unquote non premium picks paying big dividends just for the now.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Some of these players were traded to the Pacers traded
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to the thunder SGA. Best example, shake Gildes Alexander, Say
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: shake gild Just Alexander the league MVP traded by the Clippers.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Two okase, but he was an eleventh overall pick, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: outside the top ten. Still a lottery pick, but outside
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the top ten. You look at some of these other
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: guys that Jalen Williams just went for forty points in
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: game five. He's a twelfth overall draft pick. Bottom of
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the lottery right there, twelfth overall. You think the twelfth
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: overall pick. Whoever has the twelfth overall pick and this
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: year's draft is like, oh baby, let's go. This is
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: a premium pick. They're like, man, this sucks. We'll have
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: the twelfth overall pick. Too bad we didn't luck out
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: and get higher in the lottery with the you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: with that thing going on, you can find quality in
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: this area, and we act like you can't. If you
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: look at some other guys like Lou Dort, great defensive player,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the Dorcher Chamber. Alex Caruso has made his impact felt
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: in these in this final series. Both lou Dort and
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Alex Caruso are undrafted guys. They weren't even drafted, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: teams are thrown away draft picks like it doesn't matter.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It's just like this is like a rest stop, toilet.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Paper or something like, oh gosh, that's the worst, now man,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Some of these these picks, like these non premium picks,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: can turn into premium players. Pascal Siakam twenty seventh overall pick.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: He's made a big impact in the finals and the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: playoffs as a whole. So I just I don't understand
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: why these teams do it time and time and time again.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: The Rudy Gobert trade.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: You look at some of these trades like they sent
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: a bunch of players, four first round picks.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: For Rudy Gobert.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: They sent Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: to Walker Kessler to the Jazz Walker Kessler is he
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: can play, and all these first round picks. Hey, listen,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I'll meet you halfway. Maybe a team like the Timberwolves.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: They look like they're gonna be good for years to come.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Maybe the twenty twenty seven first round pick doesn't turn
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: out to be a premium pick. Maybe the top five
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: protected twenty twenty nine pick doesn't turn out to be
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: an awesome pick right, I'll meet you halfway. But what
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: if it does? It has with other teams and other instances.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: And I look at Orlando and it's like, yeah, Desmond
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Bane makes you better, But is he worth that price tag?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Man, it's a heavy price tag. It's like if if.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I went out and I bought I always use my
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: car as an example.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I have a Nissan Altima. Love my Nissan Altima. If
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I went out and bought a new.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Nissan Ultima for seventy five thousand dollars, what would you
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: guys say to me?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, what are you doing? Why would you do?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: It's too much. They're not saying the car sucks. They're
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: not saying, oh, why would you be caught dead in
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a Nissan Ultimate. They're just saying it's not worth that much,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: which is accurate. That's how I feel about the Desmond
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Baiden trade. I'm not telling you Desmond Bain can't play.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: He can play.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: He's a very good three point shooter.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I thought he gave the Grizzly some juice. He might
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: do the same for Orlando. But the price tag is like, WHOA, Really,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: that's a pretty heavy price tag.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: For a non All Star. It's like Michel Bridges.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: That's what the Knicks when they dealt for Michel Bridges,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they dealt players and five future first round picks, including
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: four unprotected. There's a pick swap in there. There's a
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: future second round pick swap in there. Like again, mckel
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Bridges can play. It's a good player, but man, that's
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: a lot. And I think there are two ways to
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: look at the Thunder and the Pacers, which in my
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: mind ties into this Desmond Bane trade. If we're just
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: looking at trades in general, you could look at the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Pacers and the Thunder and say, well, hey, the Thunder
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: they traded for Shay Gilgess, Alexander, they traded for alex Caruso,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: they traded for Isaiah Hartenstein. So they've they've made trades
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: that have involved draft picks. But I would counter that with, well, yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: but the Thunder we're trading for gilgis Alexander and a
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: bunch of draft picks. They're the ones getting the draft picks,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: not giving the draft picks. There's a huge difference right there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: That was the Paul George deal. Okay, see you guy,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: like five first rounders and Shay that's insanity, right, So
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: it's not just that you traded for a guy. It
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: might be that you got a bunch of picks along
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: with that guy, just like Okase did. If you look
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: at the Pacers, yeah, they've made a couple of trades
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: with impact players. Tyresaliburton, Pascal Siakam, TJ McConnell. They've traded
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: for these guys. They traded for Obie Toppin, right, So
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: these guys get minutes, they make a big impact. There's
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: a big reason why this team is.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: In the NBA Finals.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: So you could look at it from that perspective, but
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I look at it as man when you just start
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: looking at this, Tyres Saliburton twelfth overall pick, Andrew Nemhard
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: gets minutes for the Pacers thirty first overall pick. He's
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: a second rounder again, Siakam twenty overall pick. These guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: make an impact and you're just giving draft picks away
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: like they don't matter at all. Granted, it's hard to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: find an impact payer player with the twenty seventh overall pick.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It's not easy, but it can happen.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: And I don't know why teams give away these picks
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: as if it never happens.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It's just odd to me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I think the price tag is too high in a
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: lot of these moves that aren't.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Even involving all stars. That's one thing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: If you get a stud, you get a star player,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: you don't even have an all star and you're.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Moving all of that. Okay, all right, now you can
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: chalk it up to these are going to be low
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: first round picks. Well, guess what.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Sometimes low first round picks turn into players that get
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: minutes start like make impacts. So I just think the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: price tag a little bit too heavy.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Now, this is something that has definitely caught my attention.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Is Rory McElroy. Okay, so our guy, Rory, he is
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: taking a weenie route, is what I would say. He
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: is dodging the media, which I think is just weak.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: So this goes back to what we just saw at
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the US Open. And also if you go backwards to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: last month's PGA Championship, so here's the backstory, and this
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: isn't just a Rory McElroy thing. Maybe you don't care
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: about Rory. Maybe you don't care about golf, that's fine,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: But this to me is way bigger than that. This
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: is athletes speaking to the media, right, Like, do you
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: think that they should speak to the media. Now, the
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: PGA Tour does not require their golfers to speak to
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the media, so you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Might remember this.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: It was a couple of months ago where what was it,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Colin Morikawa he came out and said, I don't think
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I need to speak to you guys, And at that
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: point Rory McElroy backed him up and said he's right.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: And so Rory, he's dodged the media. He dodged the
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: media for six straight rounds in majors. He didn't speak
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: to the media all throughout the PGA Championships. That was
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: four straight days no talking to the media, And he
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: skipped out on the media on the first two days
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: of the US Open this past weekend, right, so he
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: didn't talk to him Thursday, didn't talk to him Friday.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: He graced the media with his presence and his words
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: as only Lord Rory McElroy can do.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: So.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: He was asked about this on Saturday and one of
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: the media members he said, you haven't met with the
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: media after the last six major rounds. Here, Is it
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: because you're frustrated on the golf course? Right, Like Rory
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: has not been playing well, and so the media guy
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: was like, is it because of the.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Way you're playing. Here's what Rory said, No.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Not really, it's more of frustration with you guys.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, So he's ticked off at the media. Frustrated with
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the media. So either the same or a different media member,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure. The follow up question was in
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: what way? In what way are you ticked off at us?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Here's what Rory said.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have been totally
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: available for the last few years, and I'm not saying
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: maybe not you guys, but maybe more just the the whole,
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: the whole thing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, so the whole thing, the whole you know, answering questions, talking,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: promoting the game of golf. You know, Jesus over it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: It's basically what he just said, that's kind of over it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's not you. Maybe another think that I don't
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: hate you directly, maybe just this whole thing.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: So there's another question, question, is this about the driver controversy?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: So the driver controversy very shortly. This goes back to
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: the PGA Championship last month. He had a club that
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: failed testing and was removed from his bag. So maybe
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: he didn't like the coverage of that. He didn't like
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: what was said or written about that. So that's what
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: is it? Something about the driver controversy. Here's what Rory said, Yeah, part.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, I mean that was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: That was a part of it. Yeah, that was that
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: was That was a part of it. But it's not
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: as I flake at Augusta. I skipt you guys on Thursday.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: So yeah, again, it's not as if it's it's not
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: out of the ordinary. I've I've done it before.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, now this is the part. Let's take
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: a time out for a second. This is exactly what
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: a bad partner would say, right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: He said it a couple of times.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: He's like, I've been around pretty much all the time
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: the last two years, all the time, whenever you want
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: to talk, I talk to you guys. And then he
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: just said it right there. He's like, I didn't skip
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: out on Thursday at Augusta.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: If your partner says to you, my girlfriend says to me, like, hey,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: you haven't taken the trash out.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: For six straight weeks? What's up with that?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: A bad partner would say, well, what about seven weeks ago?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Huh who took the trash out? Then that's right, it
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: was me. I was taking the trash out seven weeks ago.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: It's like, we're talking about the last six weeks though,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: where you didn't do anything.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about here. But Rory is like, well,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: what about Augusta on Thursday? Yeah, I know I didn't
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: talk to you guys.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: All throughout the PGA Championship, didn't talk to you one time.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I know I skipped out on you the first two
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: days here at the US Open.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking to you now like that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: That's what a bad partner in a relationship says. They
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: don't admit anything they've done wrong, and they just shift
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: the focus to an area that they did do well
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: in and don't address their faults at all. That's what
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: a bad partner says. And that's exactly what Rory McElroy
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: just said. Now there was another follow up question. The
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: reporter's like, hey, after really, and this is true. Rory
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: McElroy has really been front and center promoting the PGA Tour.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Standing up for the PGA Tour largely done a great job,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: and the reporter was just like, are you kind of
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: just tired of that? Are you tired of doing that?
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: And that's why you want to dodge these questions? Do
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: you feel like you've earned the right to dodge these questions?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Here's what Rory said.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: I feel like I've earned the right to do whatever
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: I want to do.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: That's the money quote right there, that explains everything, right, Yes,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I feel like I can do whatever that he's going
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Denzel in training Day, I'm the man of bitness piece
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: is basically what Rory is saying. And this is where
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: it becomes weak and lame, Like whatever the reasons are
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: and whatever the backstory is, why Rory is bent or
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to deal with the media or the end
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: result is weak. Dotching questions is weak. The truth is like,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: meeting with the media and answering questions is good for
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the sport. It promotes the game, It helps build drama
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: for the next event or the current event. Why do
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: you think the media talks to players? Why do you
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: think players interviews and sound bites are aired all the
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: freaking time, on radio, on TV, because athletes from time
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: to time say some interesting things and it helps spruce
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: up that current event or the next event. So dodging
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: those sessions might be great for Rory, but it isn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: great for the sport.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: That's the truth.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: And you can try to argue against that and poke
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: holes in it and say, oh, but Brian, does it
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: really build drama? Is it really necessary? Blah blah blah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, athletes at times say some colorful things.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: They might call out an opponent.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: They might say something like Rory has said some very
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: candid things about live golf, and you're like, oh man,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what happens in this next
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: major based on what Rory just said. It is back
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: and forth with Bryson Deshamba. Some of that is really
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: spruced up some of these matchups, like oh man, they're
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: gonna be in the final pair together, like wow, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: here's the whole backstory. It helps promote the game and
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: it helps build drama. Some of my favorite drama building
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: moment like this is before the Super Bowl. I'll never
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: forget Shannon Sharp and Rabe Bucannon. So Shannon Sharp then
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: at the Broncos rab Buchanon then of the Falcons. There's
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: a portion of some of their back and forth before
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: the game. Here's Shannon Sharp.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: I've never called anybody ugly? Do I think people ugly?
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: I think he ugged me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: But I never fit that. You just did. He started it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: That's gold right there.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: By the way, late nineties audio left a lot to
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: be desired. Rights in the background. It sounds like there's
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a monsoon in the background. It's just horrid nineties audio,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: but still great. Nevertheless, this is Raye Buchanon and some
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: of the critical things he said about Shannon Sharp again
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: top notch stuff.
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  Speaker 7: He might have a body though, everybody laying everybody to
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  Speaker 7: be like, ooh Shannon.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm telling you what, man, you got a grill
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: like that?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I mean total reconstruction.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now this is the best one. This is Shannon
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Sharp again, colorful sound bites. You're telling me you weren't
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: more interested to watch Super Bowl thirty three with the
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: war of words between these guys. Come on, this is
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: why they do it. This is why you interview athletes.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: This is Shannon Sharp again to drop the mike moment,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: talking about Raebu Cannon.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna get into a p and content with
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: you lose every time, but I will say this all
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: suddeny he get an opportunity tobacco what he's saying.
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  Speaker 5: If he my friend?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: Did I ever view him as a friend?
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 5: Did I have view him other than acquaint No? Do
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: I like him?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: If I see him in a snowstorm.
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  Speaker 7: His trucket broke down, mine is going perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: Would I pick him up? No? Rather than that. Other
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  Speaker 5: than that, I could care left about raeby Cannon.
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  Speaker 4: That's tremendous, and he said it within there is like
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  Speaker 4: he's got a chance to back up his words on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: You're telling me you've never heard a SoundBite from an
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: athlete and been more interested to watch the next event.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: That's a flat out lie. If that's what you say, Like,
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  Speaker 4: that's why these leagues and the PGA two are. That's
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: why they want their athletes to meet with the media
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  Speaker 4: and say things because it helps promote the sport and
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: build drama for the next event or the current event.
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  Speaker 2: That's something Rory just doesn't want to do.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And listen, I might feel the same way, but you
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: can't lose sight of the big picture. I can understand
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: an athlete having some ill will toward the media. Maybe
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: someone wrote something crazy or said something crazy, and.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't want to do it. Rory had he
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: filed for divorce.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: And then he was able to reconcile with his wife, Erica,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And there are a lot of people that said a
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: lot of things and wrote a lot of things that
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Rory might not have liked. I might feel the same
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: exact way if I was in the same position. But
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I would look at it and say, even though this
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: is good.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: For me, I don't want to deal with the media.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: It's bigger than that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: It's bigger than just some personal beef or bad blood.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: It's about bringing more attention to the sport of golf.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: That's the why why you even do these interviews in
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: the first place. And Rory's forgotten that. He's completely forgotten that,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: and that's too bad. And I'll be honest with you.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: If they had some sort of like post radio show
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  Speaker 4: press conference, I wouldn't want to do it. I'd probably
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: want to skip it. But if it helped bring in
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: more listeners and it helped build the ratings, it'd be
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: a necessary evil. I would do it even though I
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: didn't want to. If after the show it was just
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: like a postgame press conference, right, Like Rory finishes around
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: at the US Open and he's meeting with the media,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: they might be like, hey, man, why were you terrible
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: on the eleventh toll or whatever. If someone was like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a press conference and they're like, all right,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Brian filling in for big Ben Maller, here your second segment, Like.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, what went wrong?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: And I have to answer those questions like, well, you know, honestly,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a good topic. Maybe I had
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: a weird example or as a little wordy getting to
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the point, but you know, I'm just talking it up
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: to a learning experience, right. If I had to do
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: that after every show, yeah, I'd probably dread it. But again,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: if it helped the overall network, it helped the ratings,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: it built excitement from time to time for the next show,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: you gotta do it. It's bigger than just you. It's
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: about who you're working for. And Rory McElroy is working
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: for the PGA Tour and has just forgotten that the
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: PGA Tour matters here in this equation. He's forgotten that
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: it's all about him. It's me, me, me, me me.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: That's what Rory McIlroy is doing. And it's weak, it's lame,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: not a fan of it, and his reasons are even
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: worse than that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: This is all you need to know.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like I've earned the right to do whatever
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's telling right there.