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Anna Paul Takes Coachella After Cancellation · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Michaela Tester
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  Speaker 1: drops all the dirty details on Anna Paul's secret relationship,
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  Speaker 1: Alex Earle declares boobs are back at Coachella, and James Charles'
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  Speaker 1: surprising house guests. But first, we have some exciting news
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  Speaker 1: to share. Amy has given birth to her son, little
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  Speaker 1: Harry George Humphreys. He's absolutely adorable. He's His father's twin.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, us Torba women seem to birth our
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  Speaker 1: husbands because he is the spitting image of Dale. I
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  Speaker 1: was holding him the other day and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm holding a mini version of you.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely know that I'll be giving birth to a
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  Speaker 1: mini Brandon in eight weeks time. I don't even have
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  Speaker 1: to consider that my baby might look a little bit
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  Speaker 1: like me. But we were so nervous on Monday because
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  Speaker 1: we knew that Amy was giving birth and we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to record the episode. Yeah, we didn't think it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be so rushed because when I went
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  Speaker 1: in for my cesarean We.
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  Speaker 2: Waited all day.
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  Speaker 1: You guys didn't get to see Jack until like 10
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  Speaker 1: o'clock at night. And instead, Amy got a call from
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  Speaker 1: the hospital in the morning saying, could you get here quicker?
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  Speaker 1: We've bumped you up the queue. You're number one, ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. And this is bad because Amy and Dale
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  Speaker 1: are quite often late. So they were rushing around trying
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  Speaker 1: to get in there on time. They were on time,
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  Speaker 1: but then they ended up getting bumped for someone else.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a bit of an ordeal, but we
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  Speaker 1: were really nervous because Amy was had a cesarean due
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that she had a fibroid. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think she's spoken about it on the podcast before, but
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  Speaker 1: we were just waiting to hear any sort of news
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  Speaker 1: because obviously a fibroid can complicate a cesarean. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: were so nervous and they went MIA for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of hours. They didn't actually say that they'd gone in
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  Speaker 1: and you and I could not spit out a sentence
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I listened back to it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, good editing on your behalf, Sophie, because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like we sort of strung something together, but apologies.
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  Speaker 1: My mind was like miles away during that recording, but
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  Speaker 1: It's just been so lovely because we've been able to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy Harry over the Easter break. So every year we
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  Speaker 1: go to Blair National Park. We have all of our in-laws,
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  Speaker 1: which some people might find weird. I think it's so
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  Speaker 1: lovely that everyone gets along. We all have a tennis
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  Speaker 1: day and Harry ended up coming along. Everyone's like, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to make it six days after giving birth.
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  Speaker 2: She made it and she was wearing jeans.
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  Speaker 1: They were maternity jeans. I take my hat off to
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  Speaker 1: her though. She also had boots with a heel. When
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  Speaker 1: she usually gets around in Sanchez, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: she was, maybe she's changed during motherhood. Look, I think
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  Speaker 1: she's probably high on the endone to be honest, because
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  Speaker 1: I remember those days. But yeah, I was very impressed
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  Speaker 1: that she managed to get out of the house. She
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  Speaker 1: was at a cafe the other day. So yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: sent me the most beautiful message though. She said, I
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  Speaker 1: know that it's been a difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Week, but it's actually been the most special week.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been so nice to do the feeds with
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  Speaker 1: Dale and it's just been so exciting to wake up
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  Speaker 1: to Harry.
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  Speaker 2: And again, she might be.
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  Speaker 1: High on the endo, but it made me feel a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better about.
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  Speaker 2: What's to come.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, you and Brandon will absolutely love your time
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  Speaker 1: off together. Reese and I actually went over last night
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  Speaker 1: and we were feeding Jack. We were actually using Harry's
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  Speaker 1: high chair. And it was so nice to have just
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  Speaker 1: two kids there and sort of like, I know they're
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  Speaker 1: only parents for the last week, but it was sort
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  Speaker 1: of that understanding. So I'm very excited for you to
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  Speaker 1: join the little mum's group there, Sophie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, eight weeks away now, so it's becoming real.
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  Speaker 1: Amy will be sharing her birth experience on Outspoken very soon.
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  Speaker 1: It will be available for everyone to listen to.
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  Speaker 2: I know she's raring to get back on the mic.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, can I do it this week?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, babe, it's a shorter week. We've already lost
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  Speaker 1: Monday and Friday. That is why this episode is coming
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  Speaker 1: to you on Wednesday. But I feel like no one
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  Speaker 1: really knows what day of the week it is at
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  Speaker 1: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've got no clue.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe if I fucking blasted this fucking scumbag and this
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  Speaker 4: family's name already earlier, she wouldn't have had to deal
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  Speaker 4: with what she dealt with.
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  Speaker 1: Michaela Tester has dropped the third installment in her explosive
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  Speaker 1: podcast series centered on the Paul family. In the two-hour episode,
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  Speaker 1: the OnlyFans creator championed the voices of Addis Paul's other
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  Speaker 1: alleged victims. It was definitely a very heavy episode to
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  Speaker 1: listen to, but I want to kick things off today
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  Speaker 1: with some of the lighter moments which were sprinkled throughout
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  Speaker 1: this episode because there were.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely quite a few.
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  Speaker 1: One was Michaela sharing her reaction to Addis Paul's infamous
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  Speaker 1: rebrand from cryptocurrency dickhead to sensitive and softly smoking art lover.
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  Speaker 1: This was so funny. And hats off to Michaela's fiance,
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell Krauss, for this section. So listeners may not know,
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  Speaker 1: but he actually edited Michaela's whole podcast series. And the
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  Speaker 1: way he juxtapositions certain upsets and videos of Addis during
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  Speaker 1: Michaela's takedown of him was genius. I feel like he
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  Speaker 1: probably got a kick out of it. Let's listen to
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  Speaker 1: some of them.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, seeing him be this golden retriever energy, lovey-dovey
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  Speaker 3: fucking guy. When this is the reality of who Addis is.
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  Speaker 5: Hold back on my dumbass bitch ex. Besides being absolutely
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  Speaker 5: rich as fuck, I went out on my $ 4 million balcony.
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  Speaker 2: This is that $ 100 fucking thousand dollar wall on my house.
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  Speaker 5: Also, look at my new necklace.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to buy pearls, but that's for broke fucks.
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  Speaker 3: And his sister is enabling this fucking rebrand. I was
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  Speaker 3: watching this rebrand happen and I was so shocked. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, these people are buying this shit. When
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  Speaker 3: I saw him dancing around on TikTok to Olivia Rodrigo.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Taylor Swift and like growing his hair out
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  Speaker 3: and fucking being all pale and kawaii K-pop shit. When
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  Speaker 3: the man's never watched anime in his fucking life.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck, that was funny.
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  Speaker 1: For those who haven't seen these videos, it's difficult to
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  Speaker 1: get the total vibe from just listening to the audio.
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  Speaker 1: But this is when Addis was rebranding his new look
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  Speaker 1: and he showed himself doing all of these bizarre TikTok dances.
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  Speaker 1: And he literally looked like a different person. He grew
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  Speaker 1: his hair really long. He got all of these piercings
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  Speaker 1: and he started to wear makeup. And as Michaela touched on,
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  Speaker 1: he had very pale skin. And it was actually around
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  Speaker 1: this time that some people began to question whether whether
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  Speaker 1: he was transitioning. And there were also rumors swirling.
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  Speaker 2: About his sexuality.
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  Speaker 1: And Michaela said she noticed that Addis began to imitate
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  Speaker 1: and mimic Anna's cutesy, innocent persona that she's known for online.
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  Speaker 1: Here's an example that she gave.
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  Speaker 4: Something I've noticed that I think is the cutest thing ever.
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  Speaker 4: People are calling me Johannes.
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  Speaker 5: But the people, like not everybody, but the people that
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  Speaker 5: have been following me for a while are saying like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I hope you've eaten today, Johannes.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you're feeling good.
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  Speaker 5: Like, how'd you know that's my name? Who told you
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  Speaker 5: that's my real name? I'm upset about it. It's just
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  Speaker 5: the cutest thing.
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  Speaker 1: That makes my skin crawl knowing what we do know now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe anyone actually bought into this act,
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  Speaker 1: but we did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we did a whole segment on his rebrand.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in everyone's defense though, I think we are only
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  Speaker 1: just learning now the level of manipulation and strategy that
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  Speaker 1: was going on by the Paul family. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: during this time, there was a lot of concern over Addis'
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  Speaker 1: mental health because he had taken some time off socials
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  Speaker 1: and it appeared as though he was really going through something.
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  Speaker 1: And there was this thought, that maybe we'd all got
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  Speaker 1: it wrong about him. And this cryptocurrency content was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of an act. And it was almost as though
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't question it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bit gaslighting, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: And if you do look at the dates, it seems
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  Speaker 1: to be the time that Addis was actually going through
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  Speaker 1: his trial. Yeah, which really adds another element to it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that Anna really played into this rebrand
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  Speaker 1: because She has previously said in TikToks that Addis was
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  Speaker 1: simply playing a character online during his cryptocurrency days. So
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  Speaker 1: in a TikTok, Anna claimed that Addis came to them
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  Speaker 1: one night and said, should I pretend to be a
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  Speaker 1: total fuckwit in my TikTok videos and see if it
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  Speaker 1: goes off?
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  Speaker 2: And it did.
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  Speaker 1: Whilst Michaela did acknowledge that he exaggerated his personality in
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  Speaker 1: these videos, she said it is essentially how he would
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  Speaker 1: talk on a regular basis. She said he's a huge flexer.
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  Speaker 1: and has a big ego. So she confirmed that this
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  Speaker 1: is the real Addis Paul. And this was backed up
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  Speaker 1: in Michaela's podcast with a TikTok that she shared, which
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  Speaker 1: was created by a young woman who went to school
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  Speaker 1: with the Pauls. She said she was best friends with
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  Speaker 1: Addis Paul at that time and basically played the role
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  Speaker 1: of mediator in his relationship with Alice Patterson. Just to
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  Speaker 1: point out, we are now referring to Alice Patterson by
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  Speaker 1: name and not calling her Jane. We did want to
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  Speaker 1: give her some privacy, but in the last week, she
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  Speaker 1: actually has come out and done an interview with the
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  Speaker 1: Courier Mail talking about her experience with Addis Pohl and
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  Speaker 1: said that she was happy to be named. And she's
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  Speaker 1: also been very vocal on her own TikTok. So for
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  Speaker 1: anyone who wants to check out her content on there,
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  Speaker 1: they can. Now, this high school friend claimed that both
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  Speaker 1: Addis and Anna are putting on an act and performing
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  Speaker 1: for views. She said that Addis wasn't charitable or giving
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  Speaker 1: in any way. And she said at school... he would
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  Speaker 1: actually piss up the walls every time he went to
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  Speaker 1: the toilet because he thought it was funny that someone
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  Speaker 1: had to clean it up. Is it sad that it
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  Speaker 1: actually takes me back to my high school days? Not
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  Speaker 1: that I did that, but it reminds me of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that.
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  Speaker 2: The dickheads at our school used to do. Very immature.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Michaela also spilt the tea on Anna's secret relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Amarik Urbane. Now, for some background, Amarik started appearing
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  Speaker 1: in Anna's content very shortly after her breakup with Glenn
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  Speaker 1: and And Anna claimed that they weren't dating and he
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  Speaker 1: was just this family friend. And a lot of people thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is this Addis's boyfriend? Yeah. And it was weird that
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  Speaker 1: she claimed he was a family friend because he just
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  Speaker 1: suddenly popped up out of nowhere. He never previously appeared
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  Speaker 1: in any content when Glenn was around and he started
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  Speaker 1: traveling with her.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good family friend.
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  Speaker 1: And as you said, Kate, there was a lot of confusion.
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  Speaker 1: Is this Addis Paul's new boyfriend? Because this was around
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  Speaker 1: the time that he was starting this rebrand and there
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  Speaker 1: was a few question marks over his sexuality, which again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think is right for anyone to speculate on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Anna being silent on this relationship didn't help the
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  Speaker 1: situation because fans started building their own narrative and put
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  Speaker 1: two and two together and thought maybe she cheated on.
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  Speaker 2: Glenn with Amrik.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because Amrik started popping up literally the month
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  Speaker 1: that she announced her breakup with Glenn. And as the
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  Speaker 1: months went on, Amrik appeared in even more of Anna's
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  Speaker 1: content and they looked very couple-y in a number of
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  Speaker 1: her Instagram podcast. There was a video also that was
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  Speaker 1: circulating at the start of the year of them making
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  Speaker 1: out in a pool in the Whitsundays, which pretty much
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that they are together. But still, there has been
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  Speaker 1: no official confirmation from Anna whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: That they are a couple.
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  Speaker 1: That is until now, because Michaela apparently got her intel
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  Speaker 1: from Addis' most recent girlfriend, Jamiah, who confirmed the worst
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  Speaker 1: kept secret, that they are in fact together.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they are.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jamiah claims that Anna and Amrik met when he
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  Speaker 1: had just turned 18 and Anna was 23. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a five-year age gap between them. And the most interesting
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  Speaker 1: detail of this story is that Amrik is allegedly the
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  Speaker 1: son of the couple who own the stables and facilities
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  Speaker 1: of that Anna's horse is kept at. So not a
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  Speaker 1: family friend. And Jamiah says while Anna was still dating Glenn,
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  Speaker 1: she started to develop a crush on Amrik. And Jamiah
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  Speaker 1: believes there was some emotional cheating involved. Michaela did add
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  Speaker 1: in that she had it on good authority that allegedly
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  Speaker 1: it was full-blown cheating, so physical cheating as well. Jamiah
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  Speaker 1: did go into bat for Amrik, though, and said that
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  Speaker 1: he's a lovely guy and he would often look out
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  Speaker 1: for her whilst they were travelling together. And she told
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  Speaker 1: Michaela that Amrik is basically Anna's personal slave, allegedly, but
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mind it because he gets free weed and gets
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  Speaker 1: to travel the world. Look, I mean, I can see
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  Speaker 1: where he's coming from. I mean, he's a young guy
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  Speaker 1: getting to travel the world for free. If Anna says,
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  Speaker 1: go get me a Eurus or go get me this
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  Speaker 1: or that, it's pretty good exchange. Well, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: feel indebted to that person, aren't you? There's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a bit of a power imbalance going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And Michaela also weighed in on Anna's relationship with Glenn.
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  Speaker 1: She said that she exploited him and his kindness and
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  Speaker 1: she made it clear that none of this information was
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  Speaker 1: coming from Glenn and it was all her own opinion.
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  Speaker 1: She did say that Glenn didn't like that Addis took
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  Speaker 1: their OnlyFans photos though.
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  Speaker 2: Well, who is going to like that? It is completely weird.
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  Speaker 1: Now, aside from some of these lighter moments, part three
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  Speaker 1: was all about giving a voice to Addis Paul's other
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  Speaker 1: alleged victims, his most recent girlfriend, Jamiah, who we're, of course,
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  Speaker 1: speaking about now, and his high school girlfriend, Alice Patterson. Now,
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  Speaker 1: with permission from Jamiah, Michaela shared a number of disturbing
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  Speaker 1: and downright disgusting text messages that Addis allegedly sent her. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: They made my skin crawl. I felt really awkward even
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  Speaker 2: just reading them.
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  Speaker 1: And in a number of the text messages, Addis allegedly
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  Speaker 1: called Jemiah his fetish and he said that he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to feel her soft skin when he's inside of her.
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  Speaker 1: They were a lot more graphic than that, but that's
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  Speaker 1: probably one that we can talk.
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  Speaker 2: About on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And Jemiah has gone into detail about the alleged abuse
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  Speaker 1: that she experienced whilst dating Addis Paul on her own
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  Speaker 1: TikTok account. One of the videos has already attracted well
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  Speaker 1: over a million views and the other is sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the 700 000 view mark and this is despite the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she only just made up her account this
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  Speaker 1: is the first video she's ever put out there i
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  Speaker 1: mean michaela did share them on her own platforms but
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  Speaker 1: they've obviously got a lot of traction i sat there
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  Speaker 1: absolutely glued to them they were hard to watch but
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  Speaker 1: i do think it gave a very interesting insight into
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  Speaker 1: their relationship it was apparent just how young she was
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  Speaker 1: and shaken she was you could see in her eyes
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  Speaker 1: that she was terrified and And I really applaud her
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  Speaker 1: for her bravery for speaking out. It would be very difficult,
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  Speaker 1: particularly to put out text messages between you and your
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  Speaker 1: partner at the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And what I found so hard watching both Michaela and
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  Speaker 1: Jamiah tell their stories is They really still do blame
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  Speaker 1: themselves despite them being the victims. Now we won't go
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  Speaker 1: into what she said as she did make some very
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  Speaker 1: serious allegations and for legal reasons we can't cover them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we would hate to jeopardise any information that could
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  Speaker 1: potentially be used in court because Michaela has since come
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  Speaker 1: out and said that she and the other women are
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  Speaker 1: are in the process of going to the police about
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  Speaker 1: their allegations, which I think is a really good move.
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  Speaker 1: What we can talk about is that Jamiah believes, just
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  Speaker 1: like Michaela, that Anna started copying certain traits of her personality.
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  Speaker 1: So Jamiah explained that she has autism and she alleges
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  Speaker 1: that Anna started playing up certain quirks in her videos
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  Speaker 1: and essentially started pretending to be autistic. Michaela backed this
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  Speaker 1: up by sharing a couple of Anna's past videos and
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  Speaker 1: I can definitely see where Jemima is coming from. And
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  Speaker 1: Michaela said that Anna does this because whenever Addis has
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  Speaker 1: a new girlfriend, she tries to be whoever he's dating.
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  Speaker 2: That's very strange.
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  Speaker 1: When I was watching part three, one thing that really
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  Speaker 1: stuck out to me was just how racked with guilt
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  Speaker 1: Michaela is over how things played out online with Alice Patterson.
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  Speaker 1: Now we have spoken in depth about this in previous episodes,
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  Speaker 1: but in 2021, when Alice was just 16 years old,
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  Speaker 1: She made a TikTok about dating an older man who
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  Speaker 1: took advantage of her. Now, the man she was referring
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  Speaker 1: to was Addis Paul and Alice alleges that she was
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  Speaker 1: only 13 at the time when she was dating a
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  Speaker 1: then 16-year-old Addis.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Michaela alleged in.
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  Speaker 1: Part one that Addis and Anna tried to silence Alice
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  Speaker 1: by sending a fake cease and desist letter and then
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  Speaker 1: slamming her in an online video. Michaela then released very
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  Speaker 1: unflattering behind-the-scenes vision of Anna and Addis conspiring to get
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: their story right and being condescending about Alice, calling her
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: a little girl and Addis joking that he never found
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: her attractive. And you could hear Michaela's voice in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: background of these videos, also coaching them on what to say.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And she has since said that she feels immense guilt
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: over this and for believing Addis and not speaking up sooner.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: And it is clear that this podcast series for Michaela
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: is all about righting a wrong because she got really
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: emotional at the end of the episode and said she
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: wants to fix what Alice had to go through. and
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: save any other girls from experiencing what they've all experienced.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Here's what she said.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: And it's taken me years to fucking say this story.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: It's taken me such a long fucking time to come
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: on camera and speak and say the shit I witnessed,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: to say my fucking story, give receipts, back Alice up,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: fix my wrongs. Because I hurt that girl and it
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: fucking ate me alive up every day to know that
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I had these receipts on my laptop. I had the proof.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And I wasn't fucking showing anyone because I was weak
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: as fucking piss. And me not speaking up caused Jemma
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: to get fucking hurt. Maybe if I fucking blasted this
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: fucking scumbag and this family's name already earlier, she wouldn't
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: have had to deal with what she dealt with.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Now, Michaela went on to say that she's not just
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a victim, but she was an enabler. And she's only
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: really realized the gravity of the situation that she was
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: in with Addison, how abusive it was. since she's been
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: with her fiance, Max Krause. Yeah, and she just spoke
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: with so much awareness in this podcast series. And it
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: was in stark contrast to Anna, who took zero accountability
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: for her actions and tried to deflect the whole time.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Because Michaela sat there and said, I'm not the perfect victim.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I did play a part in all of this. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: feel immensely guilty over it, but I want to right
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: this wrong. And I think that that's very commendable. She
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: also touched on her childhood trauma and being diagnosed with
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: borderline personality disorder, during her relationship with Addis. And she
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: said she doesn't always get everything right. Interestingly, she did
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: reveal that she hasn't actually left her house since March 3rd.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: So she's been inside for over six weeks. She's essentially
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: in hiding whilst Anna is just gallivanting around the world
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and popping up at Coachella.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Which we will be talking about shortly.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: We did touch on it a little bit earlier in
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: this segment, but I do want to commend Alice Patterson
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and The Courier Mail. Alice agreed to be interviewed by
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the publication, and it is just so brave of her
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to share her story in the mainstream media. I would
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: highly recommend everyone go and read that article.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: A lot of times when you guys see your favorite
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: influencers at Coachella, they're here on a brand deal. So
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: the brand will pay for their pass, their hotel or Airbnb.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Coachella 2025 did not disappoint. The music festival dubbed the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Influencer Olympics has been dominating for you, Pages, thanks to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the outrageous fashion and the attendance of one controversial influencer.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: But outside of the brand activations and influencer villas, things
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: weren't very Instagrammable to begin with, Kate. No, some people
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: have actually started comparing Coachella to the infamous Fyre Festival
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and So a mix of near record high temperatures and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a traffic situation had some festival goers describing it as
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: literal hell. So thousands of patrons were trapped in traffic
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: for up to 12 hours to get into the grounds
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in 38 degree heat. And many attendees complained the conditions
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: were the worst since the festival began in 1999. As
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: someone who has been involved in music festivals before and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: had situations evolve with the weather, I really hope that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: there was an organiser who thought about handing out cold
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: water in the queue.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: There probably was.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: They probably had an EFTPOS machine for like $ 20 for
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: each bottle of water. Now, things did get back on track,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: but at the end of weekend one, Palm Springs was
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: actually rocked by a 5.2 magnitude earthquake.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine the.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Organisers are just like, for fuck's sake, 38 degrees and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: an earthquake.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: We really don't need this.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Now, as you said earlier, Soph, Coachella is the Influencer
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Olympics and every influencer and their dog is either at
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the festival or wishing they were there. I saw a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: lot of influencers doing throwbacks. So Steph, Claire Smith and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Tully Smythe. It's almost like they're like, oh, we're in
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: our 30s now, so we're not going to get invited.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So let's throw back to when we were there. These
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: throwback photos were everywhere. And I did really enjoy looking
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: through them and seeing how the fashion has changed at Coachella,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but also seeing how much has changed in just a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: short period of time. Because these are not old school photos.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Some of them were taken like five years ago.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like Steph Klessmith was wishing that she was
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: at Coachella because she's currently, I think she's 35 weeks pregnant,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: just moved house. As someone who's a couple of weeks
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: behind her, I feel her pain. You're just not feeling
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: your best. And then you're probably seeing all these hot
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: photos of you at Coachella, living your best life.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Well, one influencer that I thought would not be there
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: was there.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Because when you're embroiled.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: In the biggest influencer scandal of the decade, you think
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you might sit it out. But no, Anna Paul made
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a surprising Coachella appearance and she's really going with the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: PR strategy of ignore and get on with her life.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So she documented her time at the festival on Instagram
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and Snapchat. What do you think of her outfit? Because
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: she was wearing... baggy jeans and a pair of sunnies and.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: A sheer top.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Look, I feel like I'm too old to comment on
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it because I feel like, you know, even popping past
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Marion Shopping Centre during school holidays and seeing what some
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of the young kids are wearing is a bit eye-opening.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You know, she looked good.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least her outfit looked somewhat comfortable.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, true.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be getting around in some baggy jeans and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: some comfortable shoes, but It was not really her outfit
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that struck me. It was the absolute gore of her
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to be there and posting about it like nothing happened. Oh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it was a fucking piss take, wasn't it? Now, people
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like us, we're not happy. One person wrote, how are
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you at Coachella? Like genuinely, what happened to shame? Someone
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: else added, if she truly cared or truly was innocent,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't be at Coachella. She'd be back in Australia.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Another said, Anna Paul having the balls to be at
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Coachella right now as if nothing has happened is crazy.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing, like some people might be thinking, oh, well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: she's in a different country. People in America probably aren't aware.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Of this controversy.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They are. This was global.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: If anything, the Americans are more across it than us.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They are obsessed with Anna Paul. And to add further
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: intrigue to this whole story, it appears the controversial influencer
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: James Charles hosted Anna at the house he rented for Coachella.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, first people were speculating perhaps they were just
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on a brand trip together. But James revealed on TikTok
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that he actually pays his own way at Coachella. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in a video, he said he hasn't been happy with
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the VIP treatment at Coachella and went on a rant
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: about how he no longer accepts invites from brands anymore.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: This is what he said.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: A lot of times when you guys see your favorite
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: influencers at Coachella, they're here on a brand deal. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the brand will pay for their pass, their hotel or Airbnb, security,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: a driver, and then an exchange. The influencer has to
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: do branded content. Now, the last time that I accepted
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: a brand deal at Coachella was... was sugar bear hair.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: And we all saw how that went. So ever since then,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I have politely declined any Coachella brand deals, which is
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: totally fine. But that does mean every year I have
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: to pay for my own artist passes for myself and
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: my team. And they are really expensive.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I really love this insight because I find it fascinating
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that influencers will big scale influencers don't want to accept
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: a free ticket anymore because they don't want to be
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: bound to all of these restrictions and have to create
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: all this content because it looks rather tiring. So the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: fact that they have so much money that they'd rather
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: pay their own way and be allowed to do what
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: they want to do, it's really interesting. I also had
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a laugh when James referenced Sugar Bear Hair. So for
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: those not across the drama, Sugar Bear Hair is a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: vitamin company that was in direct competition with with James's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: then friend, Taddy Westbrook. So James's collaboration with this rival
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: vitamin company actually sparked the drama that went down in
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: 2019 between James and Taddy, which was dubbed Dramageddon 2.0.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: People are trying to work out how James and Anna
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: are connected and how are they friends. And it's quite
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: interesting when you delve deeper into it because they are
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: both managed by Sam Magnin. So Sam is the co-founder
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of Anna's skincare brand, Pauly. And he also is a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: friend of the show. So I am a big fan
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of Sam Magnin.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: He is a fabulous guy. Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: We have had him on the show, I think a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: couple of times now, and he's always been so generous
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with his time. And he's actually someone I really respect
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in the industry. So I felt very uncomfortable when I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: saw Michaela Testa calling him out. Well, because he has
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: his own PR company called Spin & Co.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you said, he's also the co-founder of Annapool's business.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And they've done some fabulous things on the Gold Coast.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They've worked with some massive brands. And he is very clever,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: very strategic. He's also the brother of one of my
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: favorite influencers, Courtney Mangan.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: This is all getting very messy. Yes, this is all
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: hit home, hasn't it?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: So on Michaela's Instagram story, Obviously, everyone was talking about
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: James Charles and Anna Paul and sort of talking about,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: as you said, how they were connected. And she wrote,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: he's also managed by the same man that manages Anna Paul.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Is it a coincidence I've been botted recently? I don't know.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: She also said, Kris Jenner works harder, but Sam Mangan works.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Harder, allegedly.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: From knowing what I know about Sam Mangan, I don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: think that he's sitting around sending bots to Michaela Tester.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: No. I don't think. I think that's out of Paul, probably.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. He was just recently on a European vacation
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: with his family. They're on a very special trip. which
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: he actually gifted to his sister Courtney when she was
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with cancer. And due to COVID, this trip kept
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: getting pushed back. But they have been holidaying. They've been
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: having the time of their lives. I don't think that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: he's sitting around sending bots to anyone. I don't think
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that's in his personality.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: To do so. He's very professional.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Also, coming from the perspective of people who have worked
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in PR, like when I used to manage the LA
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: 36's media, I would suggest to do things to the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: owner of the club. Did he listen all the time? No.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Did he do a lot of things that I didn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: agree with?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yes. So you can only provide your guidance. But if
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: people are going off the rails, like, I mean, Michaela
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Tester spoke about how Addis Paul and her used to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: send bots out. So you can give people advice, but
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you can't control what they actually do. You also remember,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he's in a very sticky situation. If you're working with
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a client and they come to you and they need
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: crisis management, you have got to provide them with that service,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: even if you don't necessarily agree with with what they've
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: done or what they're doing. You have to provide that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: professional guidance to them. I mean, he's also in this
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: very deep because he has a business with Anna Paul.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: So it's not like he can go, oh, look, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't want to represent you anymore. When it was announced
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that he was going into business with Anna Paul, everyone
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: thought that this was an absolute stroke of genius.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I did.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: She was the most popular and well-loved Australian influencer.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He's not to know what's going on behind the scenes.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Anyway, back to Anna Paul because she's back on TikTok now.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: She's vlogging like nothing has happened. She's been all over Snapchat.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It took me so long to get through all of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: her Snapchat stories from Coachella. It's interesting that she feels
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: more comfortable on Snapchat than TikTok because she only brought
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the TikTok video out on Tuesday.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Is that because there's no comment section?
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I also think that Snapchat is a big earner for
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: these influencers and they have to keep up with the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: hours in order to monetize it. Now, Anna has also
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: been spotted on Rodeo Drive in Los Angeles with none
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: other than Harry Jowsey.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I have to put it out there. I am not
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a fan of that guy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't stand him on Too Hot to Handle.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He has a podcast, so people are predicting that maybe
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: she is going to pop up on his podcast, giving
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: her side of the story. I don't know if that's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the best format. Oh my God, imagine if she was
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: on Call Her Daddy. Now that would be genius. That
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: would be a real game changer, I think, having the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: support of Alex Cooper.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I Don't think Alex Cooper would get on board.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: For it, but I definitely don't think appearing on Harry
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Jowsey's podcast is going to be great for everything going on.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think everyone's going to be like, oh my God,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I totally see her side of things. Yeah, I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it's just going to make things worse. Anna did give
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an insight on Snapchat about how
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: she was feeling.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: This is what she said.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I bought myself earrings.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It was a little sad. I was in bed till 3pm,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: which is sad. The email department wasn't journaling and shit.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I have to leave the house.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: And I wrote down in my notes just then.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That leaving the house is the answer.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: It was sad.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Like, even the fact that you're walking to work like that, like,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: heals you. Like, going outside actually heals you.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: So if there's ever a day where you're rotting.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: In bed and you're sad, you have.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is this shit?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: If there's ever a day where you're rotting in bed,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: you have to go outside and it will heal you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You already know that, but that's just facts. They just
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: really got.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Proof to me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Again, I suppose this is at least her sort of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: half acknowledging what's going on. But she's kind of just
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: making herself the victim, isn't she? It's like, oh, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: feel sad.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And it's also like, oh, look at me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I'm such a fantastic friend. This is something that I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: sent to another friend who's struggling. I don't like the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: way that she tells everyone what they should be doing
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: or how they should be reacting to things. I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: she's got to rebrand now. I mean, we saw Addis
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: have success with rebranding.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe she needs to rebrand.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the good girl act is gone now.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe just come out and just be like, yeah, I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: not a great person.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Here's me.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: On holiday like yeah this is me being rich you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: know some people like that sort of she could go
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: back to what addis originally was now so you did
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: touch upon that we are not fashionistas and i am
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: not saying oh hey i did not say i was
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not a fashionista i said that i couldn't comment on
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: gen z fashion because some of it is so ridiculous
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm not in that age bracket to be a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: cross at all. Yeah. Well, again, I have just been
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: wearing active wear for the last year. So, again, I'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: not someone to criticize people's looks, but we're going to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: talk about the fashion. Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Because in the last couple of years, it has been.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: A bit cringe to make a big effort at Coachella.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: We saw celebrities.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And influencers opting for more comfortable festival looks, think denim
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and leather. And the general vibe was that it was low-level,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: attention-seeking influencers wearing crazy outfits. And I think it was
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: really a way for celebrities to distinguish themselves more from influencers.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It was sort of that way of being like, look,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm above all of this shit. I'm actually, I paid
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: for my own ticket. I'm here. I'm not actually having
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to do any brand deals or film any content. Yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And I think in 2025, it's flipped back to the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: outrageous outfits that we came to expect from Coachella. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, oh no, but the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: celebrities are still doing low key, but they weren't when
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they were attending the events. We saw Kylie Jenner in
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: this absolutely stunning yellow dress. I had a plunging neckline
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Paris Hilton was really getting into the outrageous fashion as well.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I think what celebrities wore really depended on what capacity
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: they were at the festival in. For Kylie, she was
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: appearing at a brand event, so she had to make
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  Speaker 1: an effort. She probably had a designer who made that
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  Speaker 1: dress for her.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure she did.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she did rock up in white jeans and
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  Speaker 1: a crop top later on just to enjoy. One person's
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: fashion that I really enjoyed following along at home was
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  Speaker 1: Alex Earl. So she declared on TikTok that boobs were
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  Speaker 1: back at Coachella and she wasn't wrong.
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  Speaker 2: When have they not been in though, to be fair?
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  Speaker 2: Now on day two.
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  Speaker 1: Of the festival, she wore a bra style top embellished
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  Speaker 1: with silver coins and ultra mini leather shorts. And she
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: accessorized the look with one of those Y2K leather belts
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  Speaker 1: that made me feel very old and knee high leather boots.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what she said about her outfit.
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  Speaker 5: And this is our festival outfit for day two at Coachella.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I told you guys we were bringing back the boobs
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  Speaker 2: this year. We're gone last year.
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  Speaker 1: They went away.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to bring these and we're.
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  Speaker 4: Ready to get bratty.
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  Speaker 1: She's already bought the skinny jeans back. Now she's bringing
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  Speaker 1: the boobs back. This works well for me because I've
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  Speaker 1: actually got some boobs at the moment since being pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be getting them out though. I
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants to see that. By next Coachella,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be gone if you're anything like me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, for those who haven't seen all of Alex's Coachella look,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: she's really been channeling an early 2000s Christina Aguilera in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the dirty era.
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  Speaker 2: And her looks have been very Y2K.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm really disturbed about? A couple
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  Speaker 1: of these mid-20s influencers who I follow are starting to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: wear the 2012 big chunky necklaces again. I saw Saffron
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  Speaker 1: Barker wearing one in her vlog and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I've just.
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  Speaker 2: Thrown them all out.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't get behind it again. I think that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the rule. If you've done it once, you can't do
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it again. I'm all into the dainty jewelry. And apparently
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: there's these teddy bear key rings that everyone's wearing on
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  Speaker 1: their handbags as well.
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  Speaker 2: And people are putting bandana.
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  Speaker 1: This is just, this isn't even Coachella. This is just
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  Speaker 1: general day-to-day fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's freaking me out.
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  Speaker 1: It's making me feel really old because we've done it before.
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  Speaker 2: Now back to Alex Earle's look.
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  Speaker 1: While the Gen Zers were loving her day two look,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: there were mixed reviews when it came to her day
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  Speaker 1: three outfit. So while putting the look together for TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: Alex admitted that she was exhausted and she wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: drinking because she had work commitments the next day. She
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  Speaker 1: then started off by saying it would be a more
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  Speaker 1: casual look But then proceeded to put on this vintage
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  Speaker 1: Dolce & Gabbana V-neck graphic T-shirt that had cheetah print
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  Speaker 1: on the back. She then added a cheetah print G-string
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: with this ultra mini hot pink ruffle shorts that went
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: down in a V at the back so you could
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: see her G-string. She then finished the look off again
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  Speaker 1: with knee-high boots that were really fluffy and a white
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  Speaker 1: leather Y2K belt.
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  Speaker 2: She lost me at the cheetah G-string.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, not the most comfortable thing to be getting around.
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  Speaker 1: An all day festival in.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it made more sense at M Davies hen's party,
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  Speaker 1: but for Coachella, I don't know. I could just imagine
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  Speaker 1: it being at a festival and someone coming up and
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  Speaker 1: yanking it. I mean, absolutely no shame for wearing it
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it looked great, but it was because
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  Speaker 1: she prefaced by saying that she's going to be wearing
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  Speaker 1: something more comfortable that day. I mean, there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of mixed reviews. One comment under Alex's video appeared
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  Speaker 1: to resonate with a lot of people. The comment said,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: This is what I look like when I'm cleaning out
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  Speaker 1: my closet and start trying on random things I forgot
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  Speaker 1: I had. Now that comment got over 43,000 likes. Another
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: popular comment with 32,000 likes was, am I the only
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  Speaker 1: one that's.
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  Speaker 2: Not getting it?
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  Speaker 1: My favorite comment overall though was, it's giving Kath and
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  Speaker 1: Kim for my Aussies, which was liked over 3,000 times.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Now it wasn't just Alex who brought the boobs back
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  Speaker 1: to Coachella. Sofa Dofer stole the show for the Aussies
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: wearing a crochet bra top, fluffy skirt and knee high
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  Speaker 1: boots today too. People said she looked like a bit
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of a cave woman. Yeah, someone said it's giving Flintstones,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: which made me laugh. A lot of people also compared
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  Speaker 1: it to Alex Earle's look. I did take one for
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the team and watch Sofa Dofa's one hour Coachella vlog.
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  Speaker 1: And she spoke about how she hadn't really put that
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  Speaker 1: much effort into her festival looks and was shocked by
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  Speaker 1: everyone saying how good they were. I think people also
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: got behind Sofa Dofa's Coachella looks because they feel sorry
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  Speaker 1: for her after she was recently dragged into the Anna
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Paul drama. Michaela Testa alleged that Anna Paul would always
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: comment about her close set eyes, which she does not have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's absolutely ridiculous. And I think a lot of people
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: are wondering if they ran into each other at the festival.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Someone said, would pay a lot to see you walk
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: past and scoff at Anna Paul at Coachella this year.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: One thing I've noticed recently on TikTok is everyone's.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Like, she ate. And I was like, what?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Fuck you are old Kate. People have been saying that
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  Speaker 1: for so long. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: It means that you have done well. Like that outfit's amazing.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I finally got what it meant, but I was like,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: have you never ever heard that? I'm quite concerned.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Look, I've been in a baby bubble for about 10 months.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen this everywhere. No, it's fucked. That's been
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: going on for about over a year, I think. Two years, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I did like though on TikTok was Brittany
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Saunders Coachella look.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. This was absolutely iconic.
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  Speaker 1: So Brittany and her podcast host, Alex Hay, they were
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: dressed as Bunnings workers. So they had their green aprons on,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the red shirts. And what I loved is that literally
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: no Americans would have got it. Like it's only the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Aussies who would have known what the.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Fuck they were on about. Yeah, it was so good. Again,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that would have been a comfortable outfit to get around
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: in all day.
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  Speaker 1: I also liked that they probably weren't going to get
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  Speaker 1: really bad sunburn like the rest of them.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Like they actually had a T-shirt on. Sun safety. Now
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to talk.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: About Australian fashion brand Peppermayo because their Coachella content isn't
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: going to plan well. The Sydney Fast Fashion House sent
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: a bunch of UK influencers to Palm Springs, including Love Islanders,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Lucinda Stratford and Sophie Piper. And it looks like no
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: expense was spared with the influencers living it up in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: this luxury villa.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: They were also driving around.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: In G-wagons embossed with the Pepe Mayo logo. Now, the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: brand has definitely been making the most of the trip.
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  Speaker 1: They've been pumping out the content with influencers wearing their clothes.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: However, people aren't.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Focusing on the clothes. Instead, the videos have been flooded
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  Speaker 1: by angry customers questioning how Peppermayo can pay for the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: extravagant trip for influencers while their customers are still waiting
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: on online orders. Yeah, it feels like a bit of
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a white fox situation. There's been a lot of customers
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: who are very unhappy their orders have not arrived. One
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: customer wrote, spends money on influencers to go to Coachella,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: but I can't get a refund for a dress I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: ordered one and a half months ago and never received.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Whilst another said shocking company, they spend all of our
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: money paying influencers rather than paying the time slash resources.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: On our orders.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: While someone else said, where are my dresses? I have
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: sent you over five emails with only AI responses. Some
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: customers have also accused the brand of deleting their complaints.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So a TikToker called Serona shared a video with the caption,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: me getting ready to contact the police and then in brackets,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a current affair. Because Peppa Mayo keeps deleting comments on
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Instagram for me and other girls asking what packages are.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Someone who has worked at Today Tonight, which is basically
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a spinoff of a current affair, contact them yeah they
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: literally have someone sitting by the phone waiting for these
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: types of stories and if you're willing to speak they
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: will do a whole package on this yeah well pepper
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: mayo did end up commenting on the video apologizing for
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the issue saying that they would look into it and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to dm the directly.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So they were obviously worried then i mean there.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Were so many comments and they kept being like dm
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: us directly it's like how about you just fix the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: issue and it's not the first time that pepper mayo
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: has made headlines for not fulfilling orders A US customer
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: went viral last year when she shared an order receipt
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: for a dress that never arrived. It did end up
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that the brand wasn't actually at fault, though. A representative
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: confirmed that the customer had been scammed by a counterfeit
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: website with the same name, except it had a double
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: R for pepper. So are they trying to play this
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: off as the issue this time, do you think? Well,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen them use it as an excuse. They
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: just keep saying DM me directly. I do want to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: end the Coachella wrap with a positive.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: How good was.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: It to see Heidi Montag performing at Coachella and Spencer
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Pratt absolutely hyping her up? Everyone has compared him to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the mum in Mean Girls when she's filming their Christmas
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: performance because he was there with an old school video camera,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: just absolutely going nuts.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, I.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: First saw this pop up on my TikTok feed, of course,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and it was zoomed in and I was like, oh
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: my God, is she on the main stage? But it
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: became apparent. that this was at Coachella, but it was
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: at a brand event.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Well, good on them. But there weren't really many people there.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: To be fair, though, she was singing live. She's probably
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: one of the only artists that was singing live.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: That shocked me because for anyone.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Who has listened to her songs over.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: The whole LA Fires situation, it's very techno.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And I was actually surprised at how good she sounded.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did sound very good.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I love the video that Spencer shared of her driving
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: herself to Coachella. She had her hair pinned. And she
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: was just singing along in the car to her own songs. Well,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that's where we're going to leave things today. Thank you
• 38:07
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• 38:13
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