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159. [Texas] Serial Killer: Robert Eugene Brashers · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome. Plus it's missing at your crumbodcast. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Stu sie Hasty. All right, we're back this week
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  Speaker 1: and we are covering some breaking news. If you have
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  Speaker 1: not heard, the yogurt shop murders has been solved, they
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  Speaker 1: say allegedly, they claim, they say they have the person
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  Speaker 1: behind this. He is dead. However, he was a serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: He was very active for about looks like about ten
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  Speaker 1: ten years. He killed himself in nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Well maybe fifteen years. Maybe it was fifteen, fourteen or
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years because he did that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't eighty five. So yeah, so I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking when he got out of jail for that one. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so we decided we would do We're not doing the
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  Speaker 1: whole yogurt shop murders again, We're going to do We're
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  Speaker 1: going to cover this guy. This guy's crimes is what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do. So the structure will be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different because it's not just one story where
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  Speaker 1: we are going to touch on the yogurt shop murders
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  Speaker 1: briefly go over it. But this is going to cover
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  Speaker 1: the life and crimes of Robert Eugene Brashers. Bobby Eugene.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Eugene anyway, So uh, if you are on Patreon,
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  Speaker 2: I can't.
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  Speaker 1: job anyway. So yeah, we're gonna go ahead and cover
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  Speaker 1: this Robert Eugene Brasher's because there wasn't a lot of
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  Speaker 1: information about him up until all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: big news broke on Friday, and now everybody's like, who's
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  Speaker 1: who is this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Who is this fella even got his own Wikipedia page
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  Speaker 2: went up over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so on we're going to start with, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, this isn't We're just kind of go through
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  Speaker 1: his crime. So starting on November twenty second, nineteen eighty five,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five woh, twenty four year old Michelle Wilkerson was
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  Speaker 1: hanging out at a bar when a man approached her
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  Speaker 1: and struck up a conversation. She's like, hey, he's cute, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's let hang out. He convinced her to take
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  Speaker 1: make a ride with him, so they head off near
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  Speaker 1: a grove. Well, they're sitting in the back of the
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  Speaker 1: pickup truck in the cab and they're drinking a six
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  Speaker 1: pack of Budweiser. Once the bear was gone, they began
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  Speaker 1: talking about sex. Well, this turned into an argument when
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  Speaker 1: the man started making advances at Michelle and she's not
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  Speaker 1: She's like, hey, you just bought me a pack of
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  Speaker 1: six pack of Bud watch the bear. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: prepared for whatever you are. So anyway, so when she
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  Speaker 1: refuses his advances, he begins to attack her. Well, Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: she fights back and was able to receive the man's
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  Speaker 1: twenty five caliber pistol out of the back of his truck. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's trying to fight him off and during this time,
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  Speaker 1: he's able to grab the gun out of her hand.
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  Speaker 1: He then turns around he shoots her in the neck
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  Speaker 1: and once in the head. Amazingly, Michelle was able to
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  Speaker 1: escape the manach so she jumps out of the truck.
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  Speaker 1: She starts running through a muddy ditch while that the
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  Speaker 1: man was running after her. Well, somehow she's able to evade,
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  Speaker 1: invade him. Well, he gives up, and he heads back
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  Speaker 1: to his truck and drives off. Well, Michelle was able
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  Speaker 1: to make it to a house, where she asked the
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  Speaker 1: residents to call police. When police arrived, she was barely
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  Speaker 1: making it. That said she had she had passed out
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  Speaker 1: at that not passed out, but she'd.
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  Speaker 2: Fall into the ground consciousness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they said she was a fighter though she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to live. So she's covered in blood and she's covered
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  Speaker 1: in mud and lying in the carport. She was taken
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital where she was treated for her injuries,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe it was just like twenty minutes later.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm telling you about this motherfucker.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stabilized. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So she gives them a description of the man
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  Speaker 1: and a description of the truck down to like he
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  Speaker 1: had marble Marlborough, Marlborough. I can't say that. That's a
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  Speaker 1: hard word. I feel like I should have had speech therapy.
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  Speaker 2: Asm you probably should have some other podcasters I've heard so.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, so she like he knew she knew he had
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  Speaker 1: a red red hat or a red shirt, he had
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  Speaker 1: the Marlboroughs. She gives a description of a brown truck. Well,
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  Speaker 1: while Michelle was being treated in the hospital, a deputy
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  Speaker 1: named Angela Darling she finds a man wandering along South
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  Speaker 1: A one A in South Beach. They had already put
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  Speaker 1: out this description of this man that they're looking for
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  Speaker 1: in this truck. Well, she looks at him. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: this guy looks just like he's wearing the red shirt.
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  Speaker 1: He looks just like the bolo that was put put
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  Speaker 1: out just a while ago. So she cautiously. So the
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  Speaker 1: man said, he asked her. I mean, he's asking a
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  Speaker 1: police officer too. He's like, absolute idiot, he is, he's
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  Speaker 1: asking So I would have just kept walking instead of like.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that this guy was not in jail after
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and he wasn't locked up for life. It's
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  Speaker 2: just dumb luck on his part.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So anyway, he's not that bright. So he tells
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  Speaker 1: this deputy that he needs help because his truck was
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  Speaker 1: stuck in the sand on the beach. So she cautiously
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  Speaker 1: goes with him because she's thinking this is the man
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  Speaker 1: that they're looking for, so she wants to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on him. She goes back. Well, when she gets there,
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  Speaker 1: she sees the truck it's the same exact it's a
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  Speaker 1: brown truck like the inscription. She's like, okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: definitely definitely our guy. So he is arrested and they
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  Speaker 1: find out that the man's name was Robert Eugene Brashers.
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  Speaker 1: Now Robert was charged with attempted first degree murder, aggravated battery,
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  Speaker 1: and using a firearm during the commission of a crime.
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  Speaker 1: He would go on trial a year later and was
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  Speaker 1: found guilty. Apparently they did find out from him or
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  Speaker 1: in some fashion the reason he got stuck on the
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  Speaker 1: beach because he drove his truck out to the beach,
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  Speaker 1: he waded out into the water and then threw the
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  Speaker 1: gun into the water so he didn't have the gun
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  Speaker 1: on him anymore. He was sentenced to twelve years. However,
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  Speaker 1: he was released from prison on May the fourth. Be
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  Speaker 1: with you, nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Good behavior, twelve years when you get out.
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  Speaker 1: And for almost killing a woman. And I'm sure he
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  Speaker 1: would have raped her, had he if she hadn't escaped him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then he would have killed and then
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  Speaker 1: he would have killed her. He he's like a monster.
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  Speaker 1: And they let him out on good behavior after it
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  Speaker 1: was like less than four years total by the time
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  Speaker 1: he went behind bars.
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  Speaker 2: In April of nineteen ninety in Greenville, South Carolina, police
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  Speaker 2: received a phone call from an apartment complex. A maintenance
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  Speaker 2: man had entered an apartment and found twenty eight year
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  Speaker 2: old Genevieve, who went by Jenny z it Tricky, dead
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  Speaker 2: in her bathtub. She had been bludgeoned, raped, and strangled
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  Speaker 2: with pantyhose. It appears she had been there at least
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  Speaker 2: two days, submerged in water in her bathtub. It appeared
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  Speaker 2: that the killer had dragged her to the bathroom after
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  Speaker 2: murdering her to try and cover up any evidence. Despite
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  Speaker 2: efforts of the killer, they were able to recover genetic
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  Speaker 2: evidence for later testing. On the bathroom mirror, the perpetrator wrote,
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  Speaker 2: don't fuck with my family. This made it appear that
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  Speaker 2: it was a personal crime. Investigators tried to solve the
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  Speaker 2: murder of Jenny. However, the case went cold, and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't until nineteen ninety five that they were able to
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  Speaker 2: isolate enough of the DNA to upload into the CODA system. However,
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  Speaker 2: there were no matches and no new evidence to find
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  Speaker 2: Jenny's killer.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so unfortunately for that one, they did focus in
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  Speaker 1: on the personal side of it because of what the
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  Speaker 1: person wrote, and then later on they would find out
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  Speaker 1: that there was nothing personal. They was like just to
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  Speaker 1: throw the copy throw and it worked. So maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: not that dumb, I mean, he's bud.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he ain't got to be that smart to
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  Speaker 2: try and throw the cop coffee trail to try and
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  Speaker 2: do things to do that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So this takes us to December sixth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety one in Austin, Texas. All Right, So seventeen year
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  Speaker 1: old Jennifer Harbison and seventeen year old Eliza Thomas were
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  Speaker 1: working at the I can't believe it's yogurt shop place. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer's younger sister, fifteen year old Sarah Harbison, and her
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  Speaker 1: thirteen year old friend Amy ER's were also at the
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  Speaker 1: store after closing. The two young girls did not work
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  Speaker 1: at the shop, but they were there to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hang out with Eliza and Jennifer. Well, later that evening,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was around midnight, police officers were driving
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  Speaker 1: by and they see that the shop is on fire. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the fire department arrives on the scene and begins putting
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  Speaker 1: out the flames. So at this time when they're putting
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  Speaker 1: out this fire, they are in an impression that this
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  Speaker 1: building is completely empty. They think something in there, like
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  Speaker 1: there should not.
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  Speaker 2: Be anybody to electric it's a yo.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a yogurt shop, not a strip.
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  Speaker 2: Mall, not a uh for an arson.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they're they're thinking something has like an electrical fire
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  Speaker 1: or something has started. To their surprise, as they enter
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  Speaker 1: the building, they find four bodies burnt in the flames.
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  Speaker 1: In one room they find three of the girls, and
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  Speaker 1: this would be Jennifer, Eliza, and Sarah. They had all
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  Speaker 1: been shot execution style in the head with a twenty
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  Speaker 1: two caliber gun. They were all nude. And then in
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  Speaker 1: another room they found Amy, who was she was so
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  Speaker 1: she was like separate from the other three. She was
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  Speaker 1: shot twice. She also had like a sock type thing
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  Speaker 1: tied around her neck. They also in this they also
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  Speaker 1: found a thirty eight caliber casing. So there was actually
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  Speaker 1: two gun, two guns used in this, so two investigators.
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  Speaker 1: That initially is gonna look like there were two people
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  Speaker 1: involved if there's two different guns. So Amy's body wasn't
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  Speaker 1: burnt quite as badly because it looked like the fire
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  Speaker 1: had been started in the other area with the other
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  Speaker 1: three girls. All four, however, did appear to have been
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  Speaker 1: sexually assaulted. Now, due to the fire in the and
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  Speaker 1: the water damage from the sprinklers and the fire hose
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  Speaker 1: from the fire department, everything, the evidence at the scene
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  Speaker 1: was extremely hard to collect. They were, however, able to
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  Speaker 1: collect DNA. This was from the rape kits as well
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  Speaker 1: as some DNA under Amy's fingernails. It seemed like she
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  Speaker 1: was able to scratch somebody, the person in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of this crime. So anyway, so they were able to
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  Speaker 1: collect this DNA. However, it wasn't until later they're able
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  Speaker 1: to actually enter it into a national database. This was
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  Speaker 1: a huge case for the Austin area and even today,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they just did that HBO documentary again about it,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean it's four young girls being murdered at
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  Speaker 1: a yogurt shop. I mean, it's absolutely insane. So within
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  Speaker 1: a week of the murders, they arrest Maurice Pearce. Now
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  Speaker 1: Maurice was only fifteen years old at the time, but
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  Speaker 1: he did have the same caliber handgun as one of
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  Speaker 1: the murder weapons. He had a twenty two I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were riding around brandishing in it or something.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, they were acting fuls being fifteen years old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember it was something at that. I didn't write
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  Speaker 1: all the information about this.
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  Speaker 2: Is what I recall from that. So we did a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Yes, they were being stupid at
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  Speaker 2: the met.
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  Speaker 1: And stupid at the male, like waving it around and
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  Speaker 1: everything like that. So they bring this fifteen year old
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  Speaker 1: to interrogate him. At the time, he implicated his three friends,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Springsteen, Michael Scott, and Forrest Wellborn. Well, all four
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  Speaker 1: were brought in and interrogated, but in the end they
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  Speaker 1: were released. They didn't confess anything. They didn't really have
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  Speaker 1: anything on him except for that they had the twenty
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  Speaker 1: two caliber gun and were being idiots that around that time. However,
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  Speaker 1: they kept their eyes on them, and in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine the four were arrested as adults and they were
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  Speaker 1: put into lengthy interrogations and I think one of them
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  Speaker 1: you said was sixteen hours or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something ridiculous, yeap.
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  Speaker 1: So during these interrogations, two of them, Robert Springsteen and
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  Speaker 1: Michael Scott, confessed. Well, soon after they recant their statements,
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  Speaker 1: cleaning that they were coerced. Now, one of the detectives
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  Speaker 1: that did the interview with them had previously been accused
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  Speaker 1: of fossely coercing a person and then that person actually
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  Speaker 1: spent thirteen years in prison before he was exonerated.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this cop, he needs to be it was Polonko. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he needs to be put in prison for the shit
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  Speaker 2: he's done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So he's already runned one person's life and then he
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  Speaker 1: proceeded to kids. Well he almost got one of them
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  Speaker 1: put to death. So due to these confessions by Robert
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  Speaker 1: and Michael, they were charged with the rape and murders.
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  Speaker 1: The other two were let go. Robert, who was seventeen
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  Speaker 1: at the time of the murder, was sentenced to death
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  Speaker 1: and Michael was sentenced to life in prison since he
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  Speaker 1: was only fifteen at the time, because I guess two
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  Speaker 1: years is the difference between the.
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  Speaker 2: Maturity levels of being yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Being put to death. Now, during this time, the two
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  Speaker 1: maintain their innocence, and in two thousand and five, Governor
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Rick Perry commuted robert sentence to life in prison. And
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: this was due to a change in I think it
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  Speaker 1: was federal law where you had to.
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  Speaker 2: Be an adult. Yeah, you can't to get the death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: So his sentence was commuted by the governor. Now in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, so they're still fighting this. They
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  Speaker 1: got lawyers, they still claim their innocence all this time.
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  Speaker 1: So they've been in prison for ten years fighting this
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  Speaker 1: and like everybody hates them, like they think I think
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  Speaker 1: they did it. Yeah, for all this time they think
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  Speaker 1: they did it and stuff. So in two thousand and nine,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: it was determined that there were constitutional issues with the
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  Speaker 1: trial and their verdicts were overturned. And this had to
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  Speaker 1: do with them something about recording the confessions and using
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: those confessions in court. There was some sort of legal
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  Speaker 1: legality that they.
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  Speaker 2: I think they had one testifying against the other or something, and.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't them testifying in court against each other, it
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  Speaker 1: was the confessions confused against them in court. And that's
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  Speaker 1: probably has something to do with not being able to
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  Speaker 1: your accuser or something like that. Anyways, they're let out, Well,
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution's like, well no you're not. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: try you again because we think you did it, like
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  Speaker 1: the Crosscusians like gun Ho.
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  Speaker 2: They're like we're not, these are the ones that did it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to look at anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: How this whole time, though, they have this DNA and
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  Speaker 2: they know it doesn't match either one of these suspects.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, they didn't know. I didn't. They had the DNA, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they had the DNA. The lawyers of the two had
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  Speaker 1: to push for them to be to test the DNA.
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  Speaker 1: They had to get them to the state to go
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  Speaker 1: and test the DNA and put it in the system,
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  Speaker 1: or test this DNA sample they had against it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they hadn't tested it against the suspects.
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  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't until two thousand and nine that they
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  Speaker 1: actually ran the DNA test and were able to rule
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  Speaker 1: out Robert and Michael and Forrest and Maurice as well.
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  Speaker 1: During that time because Forest and Maurice, Yes they were
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  Speaker 1: not arrested for this, but they were still lumped into
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  Speaker 1: this whole situation.
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  Speaker 2: They they didn't confess, but they were still that the
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  Speaker 2: community thought they'd done it. Yes, they all did it together.
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  Speaker 1: And then the fate of one of them the next
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  Speaker 1: year in twenty ten, the Maurice Pierce was at a
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  Speaker 1: traffic stop. He panicked, I guess, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: He I guess he thought they were there to get
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  Speaker 2: him for the jogtshots.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, he ran off, well, he grabbed a knife.
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  Speaker 1: He stabbed an officer in the throat and the officer survived,
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  Speaker 1: but he ended up. The officer did shoot and killed
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  Speaker 1: the Maurice guy because he was a threat to him obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, that it all stems from them being paranoid
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  Speaker 1: about being thrown in jail. They did not commit because
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how you go about your life
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: when the whole town thinks you, you know, killed and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: raped four young girls.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: And the until you got thrown in prison for one
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: of you was up from.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: The death bay almost Scott. Yeah. So anyway, so with
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: them being exonerated after twenty years, they now have this
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: cold case again that they don't have. They don't know
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: who did this.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it remained they never.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Knew who did it. They just threw somebody in jail,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: but they officially don't have anybody.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Of course, the couple of confessions try to put a
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: bow on it and move on from it. On March
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: twenty eighth, nineteen ninety eight, police in Portageville, Missouri, arrive
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: at the home of Sherry Sharer at around seven pm
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: upon entering the home, they find thirty eight year old
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Sherry and her twelve year old daughter, Meghan, tied up
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and shot. It appeared that twelve year old Meghan had
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: been sexually assaulted and that the gun used to kill
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: both Meghan and Sherry was a twenty two caliber handgun.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: While investigators are processing this horrific scene, just across the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: border in Dyersburg, Tennessee, a twenty five year old woman
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: contacted police. A man attempted to break into her home
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: where she with her children alone, and he did shoot
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the woman. However, she was able to shove him out
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of her house, close and lock the door, and then
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: call police. The man took off, but she was able
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to give them a very good description of what he
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: looked like. Police were also able to recover ballistics from
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: that scene for testing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Now, as investigators looked at both crime scenes, they did
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: not realize that there was a connection until they ran
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the ballistics because he shot both the mom and the daughter,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and he shot that woman who survived with the same
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: hand YEP, So they're looking and it's the bullet is
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: from the same gun. So now they had two crimes
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: connected and a description of the suspect. Because the one
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: woman survived, they were able to collect DNA evidence from
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the Sure crime scene and a partial DNA profile was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: created that would be put into CODIS. I remember when
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they're collecting this DNA, they're working with the technology at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the time. As you can imagine, technology has advanced a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: lot the where they can pull DNA from a much
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: smaller sample and get a complete dnaprils. So whenever there's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: not hits on it, it's because they didn't have as
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: much the DNA markers that they would in the future
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to be able to hit. So it might be in
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: CODIS and his sample might be from another crime in CODIS,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: but it's not matching up because they don't have the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: same There was a lot of DNA TI file. Yes,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: not that they don't match, It is just that the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: technology is not there to look at all those markers.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So despite having a connection between the two crime scenes
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in a partial DNA profile and a description of the suspect,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: both cases went cold, with no new leads or suspects
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: as to who would commit these crimes. The Sure murders
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: were featured on America's Most Wanted, but it would not
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: be until two thousand and six until any new leads
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: or information came about.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: In two thousand and six, DNA evidence from the murder
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of Sherry and Megan were sent back to the crime
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: lab and a profile was created and entered into the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: CODA system. When this was done, they had a match
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to an unsolved murder in Grenville, South Carolina, and that
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: was the murder of twenty eight year old Jenny. Please
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: now know that they are working with a serial killer
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: who has been active in at least two states. However,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: they still did not know who they were looking for
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: until another link. Well they didn't even know then, but
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: another link to the serial killer happened in May of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen when a hit was made on a March
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven rape of a fourteen year old girl
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: in Memphis, Tennessee. They were able to obtain a composite
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: sketch because whenever the girl was raped, there were four
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: other people on the home. So this is a brave,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: brave perpetrator. He actually forced his way into the home
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: at gunpoint, tied the other four people up before raping
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the fourteen year old girl. Finally, in twenty eighteen, in
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: an attempt to solve these murders and rapes. Investigators reached
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: out to a company called Parabon Nano Labs, which combines
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: DA testing with genetic genealogy analysis. They provided the DNA
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: sample to the lab and then went and obtained additional
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: d DNA samples from relatives as they tried to work
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: their way through the family tree, eliminating members of this
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: family as they went.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Similar to our other case, remember they had to go
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: get all the yes from last week.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, they discovered that the person when they when they
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: finally got to the person they thought it was, they
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: discovered that he was already deceased, so they exhumed his
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: body to obtain a DNA sample from the corpse.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, he was buried in Arkansas, Arkansas.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: This resulted in a match, a positive match, and they
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: were able to identify the murderer of Jenny Sherry and
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Megan as Robert Eugene Brasher's.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, so now they knew the name of this serial killer.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: They now looked at his life in crimes. Well, they're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: started with that tempted murder back in Florida in nineteen
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: eighty five, where he only served those three and a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: half years or so in prison, way to go Florida.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Well, they didn't have no codus back then, I'm guessing,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: so he wouldn't put in the dataway.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But if he had, if he had done his.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Twelve years, yeah, he would have done his page.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He probably would have been murdered in prison because he
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: seems like a fucker, and then all his crimes happened
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: over that time. He should have been in jail. Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I would he have gotten out and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: probably tried to do something again. But maybe it would
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have been further into the two thousands when we could
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: have caught him better there, you know, I don't know.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It would have been older, and they would he might
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: have gotten, yeah, beat up by the girl.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So they with this evidence, they know
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that he has gone on a crime scene scene crime
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: spree through multiple states and ended whenever police. This all
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: ended whenever police in Missouri were investigating a stolen vehicle
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: at a Super eight motel in Kennett, Missouri, kin It.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So they find this car in the parking lot, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: so they go speak to the motel personnel and they
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: find out that the person driving the vehicle was Robert
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Brasher's and his family Now he was staying at the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: motel with his wife, his two step daughters, and his daughter. Well,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: so police go knock on his hotel, not hotel. We
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: wait till he's motel door, and he immediately is like, no,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: So well, I mean, I'm picturing this as the drive
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: in motor motel where the doors are on the outside FACEK.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is a yeah. Well that's the difference between
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a motel and a hotel, is you drive up? Yes,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a hotel has hose in it? No, yea motel hotel holiday.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you wouldn't anyway. So he when police tried
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to arrest him, he takes his four family members hostage
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and threatens to harm them at please get any closer.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: What a great guy.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So this was just a single or like one or two,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like a patrol car coming to pick him up over
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a stolen vehicle. This was not a big thing until
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: this happened. Next thing, you know, we got swat. We
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: got the whole Super eight motel surrounded there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: By the three cop cars in this town.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, they had to call in back, severe back.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: What a lot, guys.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, we got the the desk clerk is out there,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you know, running running calms.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I make jokes. I don't know how big. I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: think that might be large enough.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: They definitely had to get back up to try to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: deal with this. So after a four hour standoff, he
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: finally decides to release his wife and children. Thank god. Well,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: then he shoots himself in the head. But the idiot
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: didn't get killed himself. He actually survived for six days
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in the hospital and then afterwards he died of his
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: injuries on January nineteenth. That was nineteen ninety nine.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, thank you, Kara.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: It just clarifying. I think they might have thought January nineteen,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, this guy was just running around out
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: there at the Super Great Motel, just this.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Why didn't I see this on TikTok In twenty twenty two,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: there was another link to the yogurt shot murders whenever
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: they ran the ballistics on the thirty eight caliber bullet
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: ca scene and it matched a case in Kentucky. This
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: case involved an unsolved murder with similar details to the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: yogurt shot murders.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I couldn't find anything on this case about
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this case and I ran out of time. Sorry, guys,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: we're going on a trip.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So would you quit telling people what? So?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so I ran on time, but it would have
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: taken a lot of digging. So I'll try to figure
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it out and then I can post it in Facebook
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: or something. But that bullet was and so I don't
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: know if it's a different purse, if he had some.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: He seemed to work alone though, Yes, so I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: he just had two guns probably, And so that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Thirty sounds like the guy I would have a backup.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And for there to be an unsold murder similar
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to the yogurt shot murders in terms of like hism
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the using the gun, tying them up,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: raping things.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Like that murder, and so bathtub or fire to try and.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Guess something to destroy the evidence. So for it to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be in Kentucky, which is in this all the southern region,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and with the same gun, it probably is linked to him.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But I couldn't find anybody that mentioned I found this
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in an ABC News article. Nobody mentioned this connection to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: this Kentucky.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: It might not even be real.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: No, it is real. No, A law enforcement announced it
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two that they had this connection to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: this unsolved murder in Kentucky. I'm saying nobody's putting any
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of this murder in his I guess because it's not
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: connected via DNA like the other ones were. But this
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: could be part of his. He could have another. It
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: could be eight that he has on his for his
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: number on murders.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if that can tie his DNA to it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it could have just pitched the gun and somebody
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: else picked it up. And yeah, somebody's willing to pick.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Somebody else who's murdering people and not turn it into.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: The place be like, hey, I found this gun anyway,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: getting back to this. Finally, in September twenty twenty five,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they had a major breakthrough in the Ogret Chot murders case.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: With the advancements of the DNA technology, they were able
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to build a YSTR profile and sent that out for
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: testing to other labs and other states.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And this was a manually ran test, so they had
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to wait for this wasn't just send it up into cyberspace.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: They had to wait for other labs to have the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: time to manually And it's a why because it isolates
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the y chromosome DNA specifically is what I'm not a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: DNA ologist, whatever they are. Still most I know about
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: DNA is what I saw in Jurassic Park.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, got it from the mosquito. Yes, and then they
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: supplemented with frogs and the next thing you know, the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Robert Brasher's the dinosaurs can breed. The South Carolina Lab
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: connected it to the murder of Jenny's is it ricky?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It's a Treacky's a treacky, which again linked it to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the murders of Sherry and Megan and Missouri. They matched
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the DNA two and a.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Half million to one? Can you not read?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I have a two and a half mark and then
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the word million trying to figure out that two and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a half million to one to the sexual assault kits
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and the DNA found under Amy Ayre's fingernails.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, then there was also a link between the twenty
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: two caliber pistol that he used in his crimes and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that he and the one that he used in the suicide.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: As well as the one that he used in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It's all linked, It's everything's linked. So, yes, they finally
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: got their guy. Could there be another person that helped
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: him didn't seem like that was his you know. Mo, No,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he seemed to just walking with four or five people
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in a house and just take him hostage. I mean,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: he just didn't seem to care. So anyway, So that's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: our story on the yogurt shop murders and how finally
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: after thirty four years, they allegedly have the killer.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So well, I think we had been saying that that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have to find that DNA. The DNA was
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the only thing that was going to solve this. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: and I guess we had said previously yep.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So eventually technology will catch up with you. So don't
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: be killing people.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Don't be an asshole.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what I was going to say, Oh, your theory
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: was it was the man that was sitting in the yogurt.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: The mysterious man that nobody could ever seem to identify.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Was sitting in the yogurt shop. Yes, they always when
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was he in there? He was in there before they closed.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in there right before they closed. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: there was this mysterious man that nobody can seem to identify.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And it might be him, Yeah, because this guy had
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: zero ties to the Austin area. They this was the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: only thing, so he could have just been passing through.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And stop to get a yogurt.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Stop to get a yogurt.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill these girls.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, anyways, that happenstance possibly just yeah, it just happened
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to stop stop by.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Well, Stu, do you have a y'all need Jesus?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I always have one there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Come and know us from news Channel eight NBC. I'm
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: not sure where it's at of Posted by Caitlin Fernandez
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: September twenty nine, twenty twenty five. Video suspect takes off
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: running after officer jokes about his narcotics sniffing horse. Florida,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: not Florida, Not Florida, Lubbock, Texas.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Texas or something because of the horse.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: You don't think they have horses in Florida.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: No, they have horses. But if I was gonna think
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of a police on horseback, I would either think Texas
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: or possibly like New York or something.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Life he had has them New Orleans, hasm.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, Stuart, I know other places have them. I'm just
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: telling you what comes to mind. Top of mind.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, off of mind what Boudio. Body camera video released
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: last week showed a suspect taking off running after a
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Texas officer joked about a narcotics smelling horse. NBC affiliate
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: reported that officers with a Lubbic Police Department's Mounted patrol
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: unit stopped a man for walking in the road. News
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: station set. Officers believe the man was acting suspiciously and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: began to whether began to wonder whether he had illegal
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: drugs or not. Bodycam video shows an officer asking the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: man if they could check his pockets, but he refused.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, why would you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna let you check my pocket.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Why Yeah, unless you got a reason to stop me,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you know. And then even then, no, I was going
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to make a joke because it seemed like it was
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: going to break some tension, you know. It seemed like
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it was kind of stiff for a second there. Officer
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: William Trotter, of the prod of the mounted horseback he was.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Like, there's no other option for me. I must be
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: on the mountain. That's how I ended up in Lubbock, Texas.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Soon after, Trotter is heard telling the suspect that he
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: had a narcotics sniffing horse. That's when the man took
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: off running. He kind of took off down the alley
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and we thought he was joking, but he kept running.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Officer Bryce and Lewis said he took it seriously, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the chase was on. Video shows officer catching up to
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the man, who was later identified as forty two year
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: old Joseph Ramirez. He was arrested and charged with evading arrest,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: tampering with physical evidence with the intent to impair. Not
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: sure what all that means.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So just for the future criminals, there are no narcotic
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: sniffing horses that I'm aware.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Do you think we got a big criminal? I don't know.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're like, uh, how to get away with it?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we do. Sometimes we tell you how what a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: stupid thing was and the smart thing they should have done.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Like not run from the narcotic sniffing horse. Yes that
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: does not a real thing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well I think that's it for us,
• 34:19
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• 34:22
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• 34:28
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• 34:31
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• 34:35
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• 34:41
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• 34:43
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• 34:44
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• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Well there's caffeine free, doesn't matter, all the rules are
• 34:52
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• 34:58
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• 35:03
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• 35:05
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• 35:07
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• 35:09
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• 35:13
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• 35:15
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Facebook, you watch the show.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I watched part of it, The Secret Wives of Mormon Wives.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: It's on Hulu. I watched part of the first season,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember this. I've my reality TV Q
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: is already packed so with real housewives, so I don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: really have a lot of time for an additional show.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So between that and like Sister Wives, I'm I'm pretty booked. Okay,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So anyways, so yeah, Patreon, we appreciate everybody rate, review, subscribe, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Think that's it's too Are you sure that's it?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yes? Some things my sound out of order because we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: actually recorded a different episode that we were going to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: release this week and then this happened, and so this
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is so we probably will talk about should we do
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: an episode about that serial killer in next week's episode,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: but just keep in mind.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: That it was really like when they have a writer
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: strike in Hollywood and then they got to move the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: episodes around.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're moving the episodes around.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: To cover the laps.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so some things we might have said and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, we just turned the whole story last week.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: They're having a stroke. Now we're not. We might be
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, well Stu, do you have anything else?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: All right, I think that's it. By everyone say bye to.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Don't you know.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It's bad to be SUPERSTI shots by mapping else it's workings,
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  Speaker 3: I how to leave, I can to
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