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Battle Royale: The Original Death Game–Xenomania 50 · Xenomania

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No, be afraid.
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Be very afraid.
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Ryan: Let's get ready to rumble for Battle Royal.
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Kearns: All right.
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That was good.
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That was pretty good.
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Ryan: My
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Kearns: I for one, I for one.
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Enjoy your announcer voice.
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But, Let's announce, let's, for once, let's announce what the, we're actually
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reviewing at the beginning of the episode.
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Ryan: Well,
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Kearns: It is,
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Jon: Did we.
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Kearns: Ryan, if you're gonna step on it, you might as well finish it.
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Ryan: it, it's Battle Royal.
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I'm sorry.
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I was so, I'm excited for this film.
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This film was a gem, Tarantino's Top 10.
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and it's understandable.
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It's haywire, it's chaotic.
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Solomon recommended to us.
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It's awesome.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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I,
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Ryan: bad I can say except that Hunger Game stole it.
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That's it.
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Jon: um,
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Kearns: That's
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Jon: Games straight up, stole it, but they, they
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Kearns: a bit.
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Jon: love this movie.
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I.
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Kearns: It's a good movie.
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Movie.
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It is Japanese if you haven't seen it.
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It is a good one.
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It's not as known,
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Jon: it's grown a nice cult following at this point.
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Kearns: yeah.
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Ryan: it has.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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But you'll, still find people who think it's the ripoff
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Ryan: Which I can see 'cause
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Jon: I.
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Ryan: is technically more popular.
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It's, it is, it's more popular than Better Royal, but I feel like
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Jon: Yeah.
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Ryan: and it getting around and people getting copies.
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Um, we watched me and Ence watched the dub version, so it was, it was
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Jon: Feels so bad
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Ryan: I, I want to get a copy to watch the subtitle version.
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Kearns: We have
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Jon: they're out there.
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Kearns: terrible and you can tell, you can tell you're missing a lot.
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Ryan: Okay.
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Fair on that.
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But I did enjoy it.
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I, I, especially the guy who voiced the, the teacher.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: the best part movie.
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Kearns: Yeah, that's true.
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I watch a lot of anime and I always, it's almost, unless there's a great production
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team and stuff like that, the dubs are always worse than the subs anyway.
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It's like a rule.
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Ryan: Yeah, it's true.
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Kearns: and you can feel like there's a translation loss going on
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: with this big time and it brings you out of getting to, you don't
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care about the characters, which I guess in this movie it doesn't matter
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as much because many of them die.
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Jon: Most of them are not allow around very long.
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Kearns: But there is some, the movie really does work hard to make you have a
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connection with and understand, and the
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: takes a big hit from the dub based on what I could tell.
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Ryan: Yes.
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Jon: I think it does.
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Yeah.
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Ryan: Yeah,
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Kearns: So.
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Ryan: there's the, oh God, I'm gonna mess up on a lot of these names, but, um, uh,
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Mitsuko, like her backstory, I feel like.
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They cut a lot out with the English dub and I feel like with the Japanese
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version, it would have a little more of what she went through.
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'cause you get, you get the gist, but there's not as much detail.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Yeah, she's a victim who then victimizes
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Ryan: And it's, it's an
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Jon: and.
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Ryan: antagonist arc.
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Kearns: Mm-hmm.
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They, I think they miss a step on trying to get you to identify with her a little
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bit and like understand she's still like, you know, she's still a villain.
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Ryan: Yes.
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Kearns: never,
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: become sympathetic.
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Oh, I didn't.
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Anyway.
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Jon: No.
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They don't really give you the opportunity to feel too much sympathy for her.
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Kearns: In the Hunger Games, they don't do a great job of that either.
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To be honest with you.
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The
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: in
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: Suzanne Collins definitely stole this IP
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Ryan: Oh yeah.
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Kearns: Everything about it.
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Like, so there's a few big connections.
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The the age group there being kids that
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: the society condo, not only condoning, but like promoting and
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Jon: Celebrating.
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Kearns: it.
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Right?
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the way that they announce the, the participants that
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are no longer participating
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: The big bad has, there's parallels there and stuff.
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So, yeah.
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I'm glad people aired it out and I wish that it made more waves.
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'cause I remember when I was reading the Hunger Games, people were saying it
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was ripping off Battle Royale and that was in, I don't know, 2000 and whatever
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Ryan: Yep.
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Kearns: it was, like 11
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Ryan: yep.
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think the book came out in 2000, so it's like right in that
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Jon: I think the book was 99.
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Ryan: Oh, okay.
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Kearns: Games or
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: Royale.
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Jon: Battle royale.
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Ryan: Alright.
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Jon: So there's definitely enough time where she, this could have very
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easily come into her consciousness.
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And this, this isn't like deep impact in Armageddon where you're working
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on similar things at the same time.
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Kearns: They were very different movies too.
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It's just the only
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: that's the same really is that there's a, meteor or comet or
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: at us.
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Ryan: But
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Jon: Yeah.
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Ryan: still considered a ripoff.
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It.
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Kearns: Is it armageddons?
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Ryan: uh, they consider it.
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Yes, I was doing
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Kearns: How
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Jon: I mean they're, they're both kind of, they're both kind of
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rip offy at the end of the day.
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'cause there's a like seventies movie called Meteor that's pretty similar too.
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Ryan: Ooh, okay.
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Kearns: got it.
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Ryan: John's going in the history books tonight.
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Kearns: I know, right.
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So in Battle Royale,
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Ryan: I.
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Kearns: talk about.
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One aspect of it that's a little confusing.
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do the kids end up in the battle royale because they're all school
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chums from the same school.
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In this case, it's not like the other one where you get picked from
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a different district and all that.
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So how does, how does that work?
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Jon: They randomly, the people who run the Battle Royale program, which
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is government law at this point, randomly select a class each year.
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Kearns: Wild concept.
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Ryan: Do you,
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Jon: Right,
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Ryan: do you feel like
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Jon: right.
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Ryan: though?
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Because like the teacher who does choose it is the one who
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gets slashed in the beginning.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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I mean, It is presented as random.
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I, you know, I suspect there may be a, like a nominating process.
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I nominate my class as this year's Battle Royale participants.
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'cause they all suck.
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But like, it's one of those things, I think it's randomly chosen, but
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there may be a nomination process.
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Ryan: I don't know about that.
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I don't know about this for this one.
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'cause he got slashed by that kid and he was gunning for him.
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Jon: But I mean also that kid never came back to school
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Ryan: Fair.
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Jon: after that incident, so that kid was only on that trip because two
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other kids basically dragged him along.
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One other kid dragged him along, so now he's there.
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He wasn't even supposed to be there.
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I'm not even supposed to be here today.
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Kearns: I got a question for you, John.
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Do you have a
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Jon: Of course.
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Kearns: Do you wanna play a game?
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Jon: Of course I have a game.
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I have a new game for you guys.
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I have a new game for you guys.
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I, I'm gonna let you guys decide if you want to do it
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cooperatively or competitively.
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Ryan: do.
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Jon: And it is, it's brand new game.
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Well, brand new to us.
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It's keep or cut.
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Kearns: We're gonna argue, we're gonna argue
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: cooperatively.
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Jon: I'm gonna give you Eight movies all with a similar theme, so it'll help
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you if you figure out what the theme is,
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Ryan: okay.
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Jon: with a similar theme you have to keep for and you cut for the four.
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You keep yours for eternity.
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The four you cut, gone forever.
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Ryan: Do, do you
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Kearns: I like it.
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Ryan: do you wanna go head to head?
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Let's go ahead to head.
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Also, do me a favor, move your, um, mic down to your chin.
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'cause it sounds like a wind tunnel.
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Ryan: My bad.
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Kearns: I'm good.
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Ryan: It's
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Kearns: See if
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Jon: let me pop this up.
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Kearns: better though.
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That's way better because like before it was like,
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Ryan: I
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Kearns: all right, let's go.
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Ryan: to breathe.
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Kearns: I have to breathe man.
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Ryan: breathe.
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Jon: All right, fellas.
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Can you see my screen?
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Ryan: Yes.
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Jon: All right, so movie number one.
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Ryan: Yep.
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Jon: Keep or cut the Shining the Shin.
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Ryan: Uh,
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Kearns: mean, all right, so wait, let me get this straight.
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How many of these are we keeping out of the eight?
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Ryan: four.
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Jon: Four.
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Keep four.
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Cut.
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Four.
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Ryan: I
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Kearns: How do you cut The Shining?
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Yeah.
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How do you cut The Shining?
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Ryan: This is gonna be a devil game though.
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You know
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: you know
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Kearns: can tell that this is a trick.
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Ryan: I, I'm
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Kearns: I'm keeping it, I'm keeping it.
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I can't do it.
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Is it, do we have to find a theme too, by the way?
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Jon: I mean they, it would help you.
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There is a theme, but it's not mandatory.
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But it may help you determine what might be coming.
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It is not Stanley Kubrick.
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Ryan: Driven by
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Kearns: All right.
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Jon: Nope.
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Kearns: Murdering your Wife.
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Ryan: Battle Royale.
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Jon: No.
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No.
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We did not go with the fantasy genre.
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Kerns.
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Kearns: All
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Jon: Alright.
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Kearns: This is, so
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Jon: two.
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Kearns: Aw, you, you're a bastard is what you are.
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I mean, I'm not cutting the tremors either, man.
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Tremors is, is just too good to pass up.
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I'm keeping it.
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Ryan: I am gonna cut it.
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Jon: Oh man,
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Kearns: I'm keeping it.
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I love tremors, dude.
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Ryan: I like it, but like
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Jon: tremors.
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Ryan: I've seen the second one more with Fred Willard.
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Not saying like
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Jon: You've seen the second one more than the first one.
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Oh my goodness, man.
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Kearns: First one was on TV all the time.
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Ryan: Sci-fi had the second.
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The first one was always on P 11.
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I remember
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: It's not bad.
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Reba McIntyre, Fred Willard, Kevin Bacon, but sorry, I gotta cut it.
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Jon: Are you calling Fred Ward?
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Fred Willard?
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Ryan: Damn it.
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Fred
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Jon: Is that what you're doing?
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Okay.
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Ryan: Nah,
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Jon: I, I just wanted to clarify that because I couldn't
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remember him in any of them.
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Like, wait, that guy, I don't remember that guy in Tremors.
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Ryan: Fred Ward ribs.
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Jon: All right,
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Kearns: And a little,
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Jon: so
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Kearns: the mic.
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Just like closer to the chin.
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Ryan: Hold on.
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Kearns: See?
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Are you hearing it too, John?
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Or is it just
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Jon: I am, yeah, no, I hear it.
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Ryan: on.
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Better.
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Kearns: so far?
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Laugh and huff and puff a little bit because that's when it come.
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Yeah, it's still there.
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Did you move?
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Not your ears.
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Adjust your mic down
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Ryan: Hold on.
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Kearns: your, this part.
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This.
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Ryan: As far as they can go, the
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Kearns: Okay.
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All right.
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That's a little better.
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Jon: Okay.
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Movie number three,
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Kearns: I'll cut it.
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Jon: cabin in the Woods.
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Kearns: it.
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I love
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Jon: Ooh.
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Kearns: the woods, but I'll cut it.
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This is um, this is like big brother style stuff right here.
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Oh no.
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That doesn't really apply to tremors.
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Jon: Or The Shining.
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Really?
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Ryan: working together.
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Jon: Nope.
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Ryan: All right.
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Kearns: Pause though.
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You're getting closer
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Ryan: I'll keep it though because I'm thinking eternity.
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Jon: Keep it.
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Ryan: watch it for Eternity.
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I can repeatedly watch Cabinet in the Woods in The Shining,
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Jon: All right.
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So you've both, you've both kept two.
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And cut.
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One,
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Kearns: so
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Jon: kept two.
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Cut one.
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Movie number four.
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Read carefully, gentlemen.
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Kearns: ooh, ooh,
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Ryan: Why are you doing this to me, John?
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I'm keeping
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Kearns: ooh.
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Ryan: love Day of the Dead.
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This was, as I've said before, this is my first dead movie ever seen.
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So yes, I so good.
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Why John?
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Why?
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I got one more choice.
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Jon: Yep.
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You have one more.
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Keep and you're only halfway through.
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Ryan: Ah, man.
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Kearns: cut it.
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I'm gonna cut it.
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I'm gonna cut it.
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Jon: It's bold.
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Kearns: It's dumb.
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I'm going, yeah,
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Jon: Or anger the guy running the game.
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Kearns: true.
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Taking a chance
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Jon: Next movie,
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the Mist.
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Kearns: Caught day.
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That doesn't keep the mist.
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I really did enjoy the mist a lot, but it's in contention with movies that
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are in a tear above it at the moment.
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Ryan: Yeah, I'm cutting it.
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Kearns: not many Stephen King movies that are actually horror movies that
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are very great, and The Shining is arguably not even a Stephen King movie.
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That's a Kubrick movie.
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Ryan: Oh, absolutely.
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in
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Kearns: this one, the Mist doesn't break outta that mold of not of like, you can
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feel the Stephen King movie aspects of it.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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I'm
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Jon: Yeah, I wanted to really love the mist, and I only like the mist.
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Kearns: I've watched it about three times.
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Um, yeah.
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I'm gonna cut it.
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Ryan: Have you guys seen it in
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Jon: All right.
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Yeah.
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I've watched the black and white.
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I, I when it, if I remember right, when it was first released physically, you had
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the choice to buy like one that had it in black and white and one that didn't.
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And I would purposely got it black and white to watch it.
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Ryan: cool.
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Yeah, no, it, I feel like it gives it more of an edge.
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film wise, it's a lot.
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Jon: It does.
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It does.
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I think my problem with it is I hold the story in such high regard,
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like that's one of my probably three favorite King short stories and
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Kearns: You know what stinks, by the way, and the short story,
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they go back to the house.
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He does
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Jon: E.
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Kearns: to go check up on his wife
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Jon: Yeah.
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Ryan: creep.
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Kearns: and they find that she's not doing great.
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That things didn't go well.
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I, no, I don't even know if they leave the car actually.
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I think they see that the house was breached
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: like evidence that
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Jon: If I remember right, yeah.
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Kearns: and then, they decide to not bother with it.
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I
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: short story ends better than the movie as well, but people
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Jon: Ah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I agree.
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Kearns: and I don't like ambiguous endings, but
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: that one.
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All right.
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Jon: Yep.
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Kearns: it
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Jon: All right.
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Next.
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Kearns: Keeping it,
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I gotta, I can't cut anymore.
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Can I?
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Oh, wait.
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No, I can cut more.
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Jon: Yep.
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You have one more cut and two more keeps.
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Kearns: cutting it.
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I
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Jon: Ooh,
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Kearns: descent too, or, yeah.
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I love this movie too.
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Ryan: Or I'm, I'm taking a chance and I'm cutting it.
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do like the descent, but I don't know.
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You're, you're throwing some things out
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Kearns: He's gonna put
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Jon: I think one
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Kearns: something
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Jon: think.
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I think one of you is gonna be very happy over the course of the next
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couple of movies, and one of you is not
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Kearns: It's gonna be me being upset.
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Yeah.
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He's
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Jon: a
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Kearns: it.
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He's ending it with a, a whimper.
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Uh,
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Jon: Yeah, I, I am absolute.
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Ah, no,
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Kearns: things that transform.
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Okay.
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Jon: no.
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Any guess Ryan?
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Ryan: Hmm.
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A
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Kearns: are not
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Jon: Uh, nope.
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Ryan: I haven't said that yet.
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Okay.
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Jon: No, you're, I mean, yes, but not, that wasn't what I was going for
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Ryan: Okay.
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Jon: now.
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Oh, ready?
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Here's where the, here's where the misery for one of you begins.
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Kearns: Oh,
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Jon: Alien.
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Kearns: Sorry Ryan,
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Ryan: hold on.
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Wait.
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But the misery Oh, be,
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Kearns: alien and you have to cut it right.
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Ryan: no, no.
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Jon: No, he can keep, he can keep alien, but he has to,
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he'll have to cut the last one.
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Kearns: Well, to keep 'em both and I'm pumped that alien
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when
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Ryan: I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a chance.
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I'm
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Jon: Ooh.
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Ryan: alien.
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I
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Jon: Whoa.
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Ryan: aliens more.
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I
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Kearns: worse than Day of the Dead.
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Definitely.
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Definitely worse.
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Jon: Whoa,
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Kearns: Aliens is an action movie.
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Alien is a horror movie.
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Ryan: But I, I gotta, I gotta cut it.
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Jon: Alien.
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Alien is, alien is the goat of sci-fi.
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Horror aliens is fun as hell.
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I love aliens.
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It's not alien.
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Ryan: It.
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Jon: Alien.
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Alien is as close,
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close to perfect as it could be, like
17:04
Ryan: I don't know what
17:05
Jon: cast
17:06
Ryan: game
17:06
Jon: acting
17:09
Ryan: Like
17:10
Jon: well.
17:10
Ryan: kind of game you're playing.
17:11
I'm either gonna be unhappy or happy and I'm taking the
17:15
Jon: No, you're, you're, you're gonna ultimately be happy now because you
17:19
dodged the absolute misery of what I have lined up, because movie number eight is
17:25
Ryan: Yes, yes, yes.
17:30
Kearns: up with the Shining the thing Alien and Tremors.
17:35
Jon: Yep.
17:35
Kearns: I'm cool with that.
17:37
Ryan: See the
17:37
Jon: Yep.
17:38
Ryan: Shining cabin in the woods and Day of the Dead.
17:41
Yeah, that's a good marathon for eternity.
17:43
I'll take it,
17:44
Jon: Mm-hmm.
17:45
I would,
17:45
Ryan: repeat.
17:48
Jon: I would take, overall I would take Kern's list, but
17:53
I'd drop the Shining for day.
17:55
Ryan: Okay.
17:56
Kearns: that's fair.
17:57
That's a fair one.
17:58
Yeah,
17:59
Jon: This is,
17:59
Kearns: just a good hang man.
18:01
Jon: yeah.
18:02
I don't love,
18:02
Kearns: a daylight horror movie.
18:04
Ryan: Yeah, I agree.
18:05
Jon: yeah.
18:06
Yeah.
18:06
I don't love the Shining.
18:08
Ryan: Really
18:08
Jon: It's, yeah.
18:10
Ryan: it.
18:10
Jon: I don't know.
18:11
Just,
18:12
Kearns: house.
18:12
That's what I feel
18:13
Jon: it just,
18:14
Kearns: does.
18:14
Jon: just, it just doesn't, it doesn't hit me in the spots I needed to hit.
18:19
Kearns: he's talking and it's going,
18:24
we gotta
18:25
Jon: Ryan.
18:26
Stop breathing, Ryan.
18:28
Kearns: for a second,
18:29
Jon: Geez, man.
18:30
Kearns: but it's not like this all the time.
18:32
I don't know what the difference is.
18:33
The only problem is it won't matter if he's doing it when we're doing
18:36
normal editing, like if there's no sound in the background.
18:38
But when you're talking, it's going to cover you talking.
18:44
How do we fix it?
18:45
It's not
18:45
Jon: Hold your breath.
18:46
Kearns: an attack on you as a person.
18:47
Ryan,
18:48
Jon: Hold your breath.
18:50
It is an attack on you.
18:51
No more breathing.
18:53
Kearns: I don't know how to fix it though.
18:54
And why doesn't it happen?
18:56
Because those are your regular headphones.
18:58
Ryan: Yeah, these are the, these are the normal headphones I always use.
19:03
Kearns: What's different tonight than usual?
19:07
I wonder.
19:08
Jon: Can you pull the microphone a little further away?
19:13
Not necessarily down, but out some
19:17
Ryan: better.
19:19
Kearns: Yeah, actually that's a good distance away compared to where it was.
19:22
So maybe that'll
19:22
Jon: I. Breathe.
19:26
Kearns: Yes.
19:28
Feel free to give me crap what happens to me too.
19:31
Um, That was a fun game.
19:34
That was a
19:34
Jon: I like that one.
19:35
Kearns: the
19:35
Jon: I like that one.
19:36
Ryan: What was the theme?
19:37
Jon: Isolation.
19:39
Ryan: That, yeah.
19:40
Jon: is isolated just like they are in battle Royale.
19:43
Isolated on a, uh, a forced deserted island.
19:49
Ryan: which is really cool.
19:50
I like that.
19:51
It's like, again, as you said, isolated.
19:54
Um, I like the abandoned school building as well.
19:57
'cause it gives, like, I, I guess the idea is the school system has failed them.
20:03
Kearns: Yeah.
20:04
Ryan: they have to fight, survive in order to succeed, in
20:06
life type deal is the message.
20:09
Um, it's just
20:10
Jon: The, adults don't trust the kids anymore.
20:12
It's the, older, younger paranoia.
20:15
Kearns: Right.
20:16
That generational metaphor that crops up every once in a while.
20:20
Jon: Mm-hmm.
20:21
Kearns: We don't feel that for gen Z by the way.
20:23
'cause they're so, like meek.
20:26
There's no fear of Gen Z whatsoever.
20:29
Ryan: no,
20:29
Kearns: Six, seven.
20:31
Jon: I don't know, but they, it, it's just expressed differently though.
20:35
Like, remember Tide pods?
20:37
Kearns: Yeah.
20:38
Ryan: Mm-hmm.
20:38
Kearns: That wasn't Gen Z though.
20:39
That was, that was millennials, wasn't it?
20:41
Ryan: No, that was Gen Z.
20:42
Jon: It was kind of cuspy.
20:44
and it was never really that big of a a thing either.
20:48
It was like four kids did it and they made it like it was happening everywhere.
20:52
Kearns: a Boomer Gen X thing to
20:54
Jon: Yeah.
20:55
Kearns: seem like it's a rampant issue when it's nothing.
20:57
Jon: Yeah.
20:59
But I, think that's just how that manifests in our society.
21:03
It's more of look at how dumb they are
21:06
Ryan: Yeah.
21:07
Jon: you know, as in comparison to maybe like feeling threatened by them thinking
21:12
differently, which we'll get to too at some point in this country too, I'm sure.
21:17
Kearns: a hundred percent.
21:18
The only time I think they're dumb is when I try to show them how to do anything
21:21
on a computer, an actual computer, and I'm like, this is ridiculous.
21:24
The elderly can't use the computers and the kids can't use the computers, and
21:28
you have this niche meat in the sandwich that's us that knows how to use bios and
21:33
knows how like old Linux operating systems work and what it's actually all built on
21:38
Jon: Mm-hmm.
21:39
Kearns: yeah, it's wild.
21:40
It's like, what do you mean it's safe to my C drive?
21:41
I'm like, oh yeah, you're not on a Chromebook.
21:44
You're on a laptop right now.
21:45
Time to get with the program.
21:46
Here's how you do it.
21:48
then they, they don't get it at all.
21:49
It's like, is it in the cloud?
21:51
You're in the cloud.
21:52
Ryan: We're like the middle children or the
21:54
Kearns: Yeah.
21:55
It's brutal.
21:58
Jon: You guys are I'm like right on the edge of that generation that
22:02
doesn't understand them either.
22:04
Kearns: Yeah.
22:05
Ryan: get a
22:05
Jon: Yeah.
22:05
Like I'm self-taught.
22:07
Kearns: Yeah.
22:07
Jon: Like
22:08
Kearns: go.
22:08
Jon: I went to school with one computer in a classroom and
22:11
it was like a, reward thing.
22:13
You okay?
22:14
You guys have had a good day.
22:15
Some of you can go play Oregon Trail.
22:18
Kearns: crunchers
22:19
Jon: Yeah.
22:20
Kearns: whipped out the nine inch floppy,
22:22
Ryan: yep.
22:23
Kearns: megabyte floppy
22:24
Jon: Mm-hmm.
22:25
Yeah,
22:26
Ryan: I
22:26
Jon: yeah,
22:26
Ryan: discs.
22:28
Kearns: I'm good.
22:29
I ate a stack
22:30
Jon: yeah.
22:31
Kearns: sharpie all
22:32
Jon: I'll need those back.
22:33
Kearns: and then the zip drives came out and that was like wild,
22:38
Jon: Yeah, I don't need
22:38
Kearns: on his zip drive.
22:40
Jon: those.
22:41
I have all a ton of
22:42
Ryan: a whole bunch.
22:43
Or I had a whole bunch and stuff.
22:47
Kearns: John, what are you gonna do?
22:48
Who are you gonna be queef them to?
22:51
Like who's getting all
22:53
Jon: one of you guys.
22:55
Ryan: Oh,
22:56
Jon: One of you guys.
22:56
Kearns: are you gonna go through as the archives of all of his zip drives?
22:59
Jon: As, long as you promise not to turn them over to, the authorities,
23:03
I'll forward 'em to you guys.
23:04
Ryan: do that.
23:05
I just can imagine.
23:06
It's like Raiders of the Lost Arc. I get the staff and the light
23:09
Kearns: Yeah, exactly.
23:11
Ryan: Duh.
23:13
Jon: Yeah.
23:13
No, not on the zip drives.
23:15
Kearns: It's funny, I still am rocking just the regular one terabyte drive that's
23:19
connected to the old router here, and I upload all our content saves on there
23:24
and things like that for every episode.
23:25
I'm, not even at not even close to halfway on it yet, and I
23:31
was like, thinking about it.
23:32
I'm like, we do this for a long time.
23:33
We're gonna need to get a bigger drive.
23:36
And that's a terabyte.
23:37
Ryan: We are gonna have to be in syndication by then.
23:40
Kearns: Yeah.
23:41
We'll
23:41
Jon: That's indication
23:42
Ryan: our, we'll have our Roku channel.
23:44
Kearns: Yes, sir. Yes sir.
23:47
Ryan: episodes.
23:49
Jon: hours of are mugs.
23:51
Kearns: Oh God, please.
23:52
No.
23:53
Ryan: What,
23:54
Kearns: What?
23:55
Oh, can you imagine?
23:55
The early stuff is very tough.
23:57
I listen to it sometimes.
23:59
I'm like, we've evolved quite a bit since then.
24:01
Ryan: yes, we have, we've gotten into our niche and I'm happy about that.
24:05
Kearns: Shout out to Roanoke Gaming.
24:06
I just watched his episode from two years ago on dead snow and he, it's, it was an
24:12
entertaining watch and I was thinking of our episode, so I re-listened to it and
24:15
watched the animation a little bit and stuff and I was like, wow, really good.
24:20
Ryan: We, we turned real eventually.
24:23
Kearns: Yeah,
24:23
Jon: Yeah,
24:24
Kearns: back then.
24:25
We were less, you know, congenial
24:28
Ryan: My favorite one's still Fright Night.
24:29
That's,
24:30
Kearns: right now.
24:30
It was good.
24:32
Jon: I don't know.
24:33
I don't know if I have a favorite.
24:34
I love them all.
24:35
Ryan: Aw.
24:36
Kearns: I can't wait
24:36
Jon: all,
24:38
Ryan: Yeah.
24:40
Now,
24:40
Kearns: I think that's a live watch, right?
24:41
That's gotta be something like that special.
24:44
Jon: I, we have to work that in at some point.
24:47
Get, get our Patreon up.
24:48
Patreon up and running, and put some live stuff on there.
24:52
Put some other stuff up there.
24:55
The Ryan dictionary.
24:57
Kearns: Yeah.
24:58
Ryan Dictionary is key.
25:00
I hope you've been logging everything.
25:01
'cause I, I fall off.
25:03
Jon: Oh no, I'm, I'm a hundred percent gonna have to re-listen
25:06
to everything we've ever recorded.
25:08
Kearns: God.
25:08
Ryan: That'll be on Patreon too.
25:10
Re-listening, like, what did we
25:12
Kearns: Yeah.
25:12
Ryan: here?
25:12
Jesus.
25:14
But you know what's not gonna be on Patreon?
25:16
US watching Puppet Master, we're not gonna have people pay for that.
25:20
Kearns: I mean, why not?
25:22
Why not?
25:22
Ryan: Well, have
25:23
Kearns: But
25:24
Ryan: Puppet Master
25:25
Kearns: yes, I have back in the HBO when HBO was on the home box.
25:30
Office box.
25:32
Jon: Have you, have you seen the Critters movies?
25:34
We're gonna live, watch those for money.
25:36
Ryan: Yes.
25:37
Kearns: True.
25:37
Jon: we can do puppet, master live watch for money.
25:41
Ryan: Alright.
25:42
Kearns: So for Battle Royale, let's get back to brass tacks,
25:45
Jon: Yeah.
25:46
Kearns: Royale.
25:47
You've got your quintessential dystopian society.
25:51
they're sacrificing the, next generation for the good of
25:54
those who are already around.
25:55
It's very metaphorical.
25:56
It's very true.
25:58
Jon: Mm-hmm.
25:58
Kearns: apropo for what's happening right now in the world, which is awful.
26:01
and then they have like five niche characters.
26:04
We'll kind of go over real quick, five important ones.
26:06
Really.
26:07
You have the sensei, the guy who's in charge of their demise,
26:11
Ryan: yep,
26:11
Kearns: the architect of it, the president snow, if you'll catano.
26:15
Ryan: Ano?
26:16
Kearns: have the lead male and lead female shinji.
26:22
Oh, not a hard,
26:23
Ryan: Yep.
26:23
Jon: Nana, Hara and Noriko, whose name changes to something else
26:28
through the course of it too.
26:30
Ryan: Naka.
26:30
Jon: think they like switched.
26:31
Yeah, I think they switched between last name and first name with her throughout.
26:35
Ryan: Yes.
26:37
Kearns: great.
26:37
So one
26:38
Jon: Does she get
26:39
Kearns: in Japanese is they usually use your last name as your
26:42
first name in shows and stuff.
26:44
I don't know if it's like that in the culture.
26:46
Jon: I think it is.
26:47
I think, the way we are presented names is backwards to how they actually are,
26:54
but I'm all, I know some things have also changed how they do that, and
26:58
I'm not sure where that started.
27:00
So I'm not always sure when I watch something Japanese, whether it was
27:06
before or after the time that we went through and corrected that.
27:10
Kearns: Got you.
27:10
I think it's the way they say them.
27:12
Like if you introduce yourself, you'd be like, well, I don't want to dox us.
27:15
I'd be like, Smith John, like that.
27:19
Jon: Yeah,
27:20
Kearns: them
27:20
Jon: because it's the, family name above the self.
27:24
Kearns: is cool.
27:26
I like that.
27:28
that's neat.
27:29
Jon: Yeah.
27:30
Kearns: our big bads, we have, well we have, we have our badass, good guy
27:34
Jon: Mm-hmm.
27:35
Kearns: name is something
27:37
Jon: Ada.
27:37
Kearns: Ada, and then we have our badass bad guy
27:40
Ryan: Yep.
27:40
Um,
27:41
Jon: Who is?
27:42
Who is young Japanese Christopher Walken.
27:45
Kearns: yeah, basically he's pretty cool.
27:47
Ryan: reminded
27:47
Jon: I love that.
27:48
I love that character.
27:50
Ryan: me a lot and Kerns will get this, a vicious from Cowboy Depop,
27:53
especially when he was on and he grabs a samurai sword and he strikes down.
27:58
I was like,
27:59
Kearns: Yeah,
28:00
Ryan: some vicious vibes.
28:01
And John, I know you've never seen Cowboy beep up, but vicious is very, the anime
28:06
version's very in your face calculating.
28:08
And
28:09
Jon: Mm-hmm.
28:09
Ryan: a lot of him, um, the other
28:11
Kearns: those last two episodes.
28:13
Or it wouldn't be nearly as good without Vicious,
28:16
Jon: Mm-hmm.
28:16
Kearns: the last two episodes, the stakes are so high.
28:19
Everybody was, everybody adores Spike Spikes the show.
28:23
I mean, all the characters are amazing.
28:24
Ed
28:25
Jon: Mm.
28:26
Kearns: A, all of them.
28:26
But like Spike is the guy.
28:29
So in the last two episodes, if it wasn't vicious, that's your auth to your cloud.
28:34
Basically it's your Unclimbable Mountain.
28:36
And even though Spike is so good, vicious is vicious.
28:39
So it's like, it's cool.
28:41
John, I really recommend that you bite the bullet on this Cowboy
28:44
Bebo's A, it's a short run.
28:46
I think it's only like 24 episodes.
28:48
Ryan: And
28:48
Kearns: Yeah, you gotta do it.
28:49
Ryan: and then if you find the movie, the movie's right before
28:52
episode 23 and it sets it up nicely.
28:55
Kearns: It's not
28:55
Jon: Oh man.
28:57
Kearns: not
28:57
Jon: movies in the middle of the show.
28:59
Kearns: You just watch.
29:00
You just watch the series.
29:01
Ryan: I'm just
29:02
Kearns: Yeah.
29:02
Ryan: the movie.
29:02
'cause the series is, it's so you're gonna wanna watch the
29:05
movie after you see the series.
29:06
Kearns: 20 minutes an episode.
29:07
Let's do the math on this.
29:08
How much time investment is it?
29:09
But it's really, it's a cultural phenomenon.
29:12
It's more than just the sum of its parts.
29:15
Jon: 20 minutes an episode.
29:17
Ryan: a Patreon life?
29:18
Watch of Cowboy.
29:19
Be Bob.
29:21
Kearns: Oh, oh
29:23
Jon: Today.
29:23
on our Patreon bonus episode, we're gonna torture John with more anime.
29:29
Kearns: Hmm.
29:29
Ryan: get hooked up after the red
29:31
Kearns: They get clicks, baby.
29:33
They get clicks.
29:34
That's half the
29:35
Jon: They do.
29:36
Kearns: doing live
29:36
Jon: They do.
29:37
So
29:38
Kearns: current anime and
29:39
Jon: back to Battle Royale.
29:40
Back to Battle Royale.
29:42
Kearns: There you go.
29:43
Jon: Um, so our friend Christopher Walken and Kata, it's important to sort of put
29:49
out, are not students in this class.
29:53
They're what Katano calls transfer students, but they're basically
29:58
previous winners come back for their own specific reasons.
30:03
Kearns: Which is pretty cool.
30:04
And that's not a premise that's foreign to Suzanne Collins' story that she stole.
30:10
Ryan: Yep.
30:10
Jon: Yeah.
30:10
And then our last really main character, I think is Mitsuko and
30:16
her trauma, and then victimizing.
30:22
Kearns: Yeah, she's a psycho.
30:23
Ryan: Yes she
30:24
Jon: Mm-hmm.
30:26
Mm-hmm.
30:26
Ryan: it so well.
30:27
her facial expressions.
30:29
I mean, again, English dub, so don't know what like real
30:32
lines are and what they changed.
30:34
But you can see on her facial reactions, how she's calm one
30:38
minute and then she just snaps.
30:40
Jon: Mm-hmm.
30:41
Ryan: with the girl, with the taser, I was like,
30:43
Jon: Yeah.
30:44
Ryan: Like,
30:47
Jon: Yeah.
30:47
she's very, sort of reassuring just long enough to get close enough.
30:52
Ryan: yes.
30:53
I mean, those.
30:55
Jon: And,
30:55
Ryan: Guys later on the movie too.
30:57
That was, that was
30:59
Jon: mm-hmm.
31:00
Yeah.
31:01
Ryan: It's quick.
31:02
Jon: Yeah.
31:02
Ryan: cut to the aftermath, but
31:06
Jon: Mm-hmm.
31:06
Ryan: didn't have a good time.
31:09
Jon: Yep.
31:11
So we're gonna tell people what we think, but let's give some idea of
31:15
what some other people think too.
31:17
Kearns: it.
31:17
Let's hit one.
31:18
Ryan: nervous.
31:19
Jon: Yeah.
31:19
Here's a five star for Battle Royal.
31:23
It was a really memorable story to the plot line and the
31:27
characters throughout the movie.
31:29
The Kills show how easily a friendship could be broken in a matter of
31:33
seconds to days plus at, at the end.
31:37
It gave me a beautiful Clouser, which I'm assuming is closer
31:41
and make me so emotional.
31:43
I definitely recommend this masterpiece and I, I mean that's,
31:47
that's pretty close to how I feel about this movie, like they do.
31:51
One of the things that I really like how they do is how.
31:55
They fray these existing relationships on the smallest things.
32:00
Sometimes
32:01
Kearns: Yeah.
32:01
Jon: like the girls in, the lighthouse have set up their own little safe
32:05
space and then you get rescued Nana Hara and somebody and one of them
32:11
having witnessed something that wasn't what she saw and just how it devolves
32:18
into murder and paranoia and chaos.
32:22
Ryan: movie.
32:23
In my opinion,
32:24
Jon: I love, that's a really good scene.
32:27
I love that scene with the, the poison and then
32:30
Kearns: It catches you off guard too
32:31
Ryan: yes.
32:32
Jon: mm-hmm.
32:33
Mm-hmm.
32:35
And it like that scene and the scene when there all this kids
32:41
are in the school building and.
32:43
They fire the gun at them to sort of calm them down.
32:46
Just the way those two scenes are choreographed, it's almost like watching
32:51
like a West Side story type musical,
32:56
which I, really kind of like, even though somehow I don't like musicals.
33:00
I like the choreography of that.
33:02
Kearns: Cool.
33:03
Ryan: see.
33:03
I can see John watching this and be like, God, they're gonna
33:06
start singing and dancing.
33:07
Now.
33:08
It's the wrong
33:09
Jon: Yeah.
33:10
Yeah.
33:11
Oh, I, yeah.
33:13
No, don't get me started on musicals.
33:14
This is gonna be a three hour episode.
33:16
Um, so here's one stars for, Battle Royale, were hard to
33:22
come by, especially on Google.
33:24
'cause there's only, there's two.
33:25
But one of them is clearly not for battle.
33:28
Battle Royal.
33:29
Ryan: it for
33:29
Kearns: cool.
33:30
Jon: Wait.
33:30
It's like, no, it, I don't even know what it's for.
33:33
It's just somebody ranting about something.
33:35
Ryan: If they needed to
33:36
Kearns: On Google.
33:38
Jon: It's like three lines and it's like, it, like you start reading and it's like,
33:42
oh, this is, this is gonna be great.
33:43
Wait, they're not talking about this movie.
33:45
I don't know what you're talking about, but it's not Battle
33:48
Royal, but this person is.
33:51
One star least enjoyable watch I've had in my life.
33:56
How is showing a character's backstory, moments before having them killed,
34:00
supposed to make the audience invested Aside from the ridiculous plot holes,
34:06
laughably, forced and cheesy love stories.
34:10
None of the characters seem to have any development during the two hours.
34:14
If the premise were more plausible, maybe it would be worth sitting through.
34:19
Otherwise, it's a complete waste of time.
34:23
Ryan: I don't like that reviewer.
34:25
Nope.
34:26
Kearns: Disagree.
34:27
Jon: I went, looking to see if that person reviewed Hunger Games.
34:30
They did not.
34:31
Ryan: would've
34:31
Kearns: that would've been cool.
34:32
Ryan: this was a great movie.
34:34
Yeah.
34:34
It's the same
34:35
Kearns: same.
34:36
Jon: Yeah,
34:37
Ryan: is it?
34:38
Kearns: Alright.
34:39
Jon: mean,
34:40
Kearns: faster than Norm it would
34:41
Jon: mm-hmm.
34:42
Kearns: like today, things move faster than they did, but it moved
34:44
faster than things from the time.
34:46
For sure.
34:46
Jon: Yeah.
34:47
Yeah.
34:48
Like there are va like if you're going into this and you want them to
34:52
develop the characters, you're talking, there's 42 students plus the teacher.
35:00
If you want the full development of all of that, you're, you're not watching a movie.
35:06
You're watching seven or eight seasons of a TV show at that point.
35:10
Kearns: Yeah, that would be a series.
35:12
Yeah, something like that.
35:13
Jon: You ha.
35:14
You have to choose which characters you want to invest the backstory
35:19
time into, and I think they do a pretty good job of that.
35:22
You have Nana Hara and his, Michael Hutchins esque dad.
35:28
His hanging with his pants down.
35:33
Kearns: his self ending,
35:35
Ryan: You,
35:35
Kearns: we'll call it.
35:36
Ryan: I was questioning when you texted me that.
35:38
I was like, what are you talking about?
35:39
And they did the flashback and I was like, oh,
35:44
this is
35:45
Kearns: Yeah.
35:45
Ryan: messed up.
35:46
Because I was like, oh man, this guy himself and he lost his
35:49
pants during the whole thing.
35:52
Jon: He, Michael Hutchins.
35:53
Kearns: he, Michael Hutchins
35:54
Jon: He Michael Hutchins.
35:58
Google, Michael Hutchins or Inex in Excess, which is spelled INXS.
36:03
You'll understand.
36:04
Kearns: from Kung fu?
36:06
Ryan: Yeah,
36:07
Jon: yeah, him
36:07
Ryan: yeah.
36:08
Kearns: What's his name?
36:10
Ryan: That's not
36:10
Kearns: Yeah, bill.
36:12
That was a big hit.
36:14
David Carradine.
36:16
Yeah, David Carradine.
36:18
That was a big surprise.
36:19
Jon: one.
36:20
Kearns: Did not expect that to come out.
36:22
Ryan: That was an accident.
36:24
Kearns: Yeah.
36:26
Jon: I think Michael Hutchins was too.
36:27
I think that was,
36:29
Kearns: Well, I mean, you're playing a little close to the line with that habit.
36:32
Ryan: should have done.
36:33
They should have just done Richard gear.
36:35
That's it.
36:37
Jon: There.
36:39
Allegedly,
36:41
Kearns: Yeah.
36:42
Not going,
36:42
Jon: allegedly,
36:43
Kearns: giving that guy something to do.
36:45
Jon: Allegedly.
36:47
Kearns: All right.
36:48
So, um, we're big, we're big fans of this movie.
36:51
We're gonna kind of roll through from the mid tier towards the end.
36:54
Now, guys, the, we're big fans of this movie.
36:56
Um, we don't like that.
36:57
It didn't get as much notoriety as, as it could have.
37:00
It got more after Suzanne Collins stole it, to be honest with you.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
37:04
Yeah, it
37:05
Kearns: I won't even say allegedly for that.
37:06
That's just
37:08
Jon: it's,
37:08
Kearns: not cool.
37:09
Jon: out stolen.
37:10
Kearns: it's not cool.
37:12
Jon: I have the most minor issue with this movie.
37:16
Kearns: Oh, yeah, this is a cool one.
37:19
Jon: It falls.
37:19
It's definitely an editing thing,
37:22
Ryan: Yes.
37:22
Jon: one thing they do after each kid is eliminated.
37:27
They post the number that that's left.
37:29
So it'll go like the first two go, it's down to 40 and then it's 37 or whatever.
37:35
But at one point it goes from 32 to 16, then it goes back up after the
37:42
next couple to like 28 or something.
37:45
Ryan: Yep.
37:45
Jon: like.
37:46
It's clearly like an editing mistake and it's not something, I don't
37:51
even know how many people notice it.
37:53
I could, I don't know how many times I watched it before I noticed
37:56
it, but eventually I started really paying attention to that.
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When I watched, I was like, oh my God.
38:02
Like if there's a split second where that almost takes me completely out.
38:08
Kearns: Which is wild too.
38:09
'cause you asked if I noticed it and I was like, dude, I was just barely
38:12
hanging on trying to watch the, I watched it in two parts, first half and
38:15
second half and the first night I was like struggling to stay in tune to it.
38:19
That was a, we have long days, we'll just put it that way listeners.
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Ryan: we do.
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Kearns: They're not long by hours, but it's like the hyperbolic time chamber.
38:25
It, it's a longer than it is.
38:28
We put out a lot of energy in that time and boy, howdy was, I like trying.
38:34
Ryan: it's not a bad mistake.
38:36
Definitely unnoticeable.
38:37
It's not like watching like Goodfellas where you're like, oh
38:40
God, this is like, and great movie, but his cuts in that are insane.
38:46
Jon: But it's the kind of thing if you watch a movie as
38:49
many times as I've seen Battle
38:50
Ryan: Yeah.
38:51
Jon: you start to notice these little
38:54
Ryan: Yep,
38:55
Jon: and you, you know, you, now you, oh, really?
38:58
Why?
38:59
Why are the numbers wrong?
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But you know why the numbers are wrong, because they
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edited that part and forgot to
39:06
Ryan: yep.
39:07
They had, they had to do a quick fix and they were like,
39:09
let me just put this C in here.
39:11
No one's gonna notice.
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just jumping numbers.
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Jon: No one's gonna notice, including the person editing it.
39:18
Like that's how, minuscule this, issue actually is.
39:23
Ryan: I think they were still cutting it too.
39:24
I think at that time, 19 2000, 2001, they weren't using digital.
39:29
I think they were still cutting the film together, so I.
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Jon: Probably.
39:33
Ryan: That's definitely, oh, it, it looks the same the light.
39:37
All
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Kearns: Yeah.
39:38
Jon: yeah.
39:38
I mean it like it with the way the eliminations in this movie are done,
39:44
they don't, there's no reason except for like the final three or four
39:50
that they have to be in that order.
39:52
Ryan: Yeah,
39:53
Jon: You can, just take, you know, the lighthouse scene and pop that at the
39:58
beginning and it doesn't matter as long as you're not putting the count on it.
40:03
Ryan: true.
40:04
Kearns: Fair.
40:05
mean it's, that's a fair point.
40:06
And a minor, minor glitch.
40:08
Um, and I'd be curious to see if that pops up when we watch or if we
40:12
ever do watch the subtitled version.
40:15
If they messed, they could have just messed up the dub version too.
40:18
Jon: No, because I watched the subtitle.
40:20
Kearns: Oh, okay.
40:20
Got it.
40:21
Jon: I, uh, yeah, I will almost exclusively watch subtitles
40:25
except it, uh, for Godzilla movies
40:28
Kearns: Of culture.
40:28
Jon: has the,
40:29
Kearns: Yeah.
40:29
Jon: has the nostalgia.
40:31
Kearns: Yeah, the mouth moving 20 minutes after they're done speaking.
40:34
That's good stuff.
40:36
Good stuff.
40:36
we're gonna skip over me talking about when my cousin brought back all the
40:39
Godzilla movies for the 40th time on this.
40:41
But yeah, I love the old Godzilla VHS tapes.
40:45
Jon: you wanna spend a, a few bucks.
40:47
There is a Criterion Godzilla set that, oh my gosh.
40:52
Kearns: That would be kind of neat.
40:54
Jon: book size,
40:54
Ryan: all of them.
40:55
Jon: like big book.
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so there's all a set with like, like it's the first, like 15, 16 of them
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comes in this like an oversized book with like pages, like it's just so
41:10
Kearns: You know what's interesting about batter Royale, by the way,
41:12
it looks like the book is a manga.
41:15
It doesn't necessarily, or maybe they made a manga from an actual novel.
41:18
Jon: they made a manga from
41:21
Kearns: Okay,
41:21
Jon: 'cause I believe the novel is first.
41:25
I read the novel, I own it.
41:26
I'm not sure I could find it if I had to, but I could have definitely read it.
41:31
Ryan: that actually
41:32
Kearns: cool man.
41:33
Ryan: 'cause I was gonna ask you if you've read it.
41:35
Now, here's my second question for it is, was there any differences from the book?
41:39
Similarities?
41:40
Does it follow or,
41:42
Jon: I mean there's definitely some noticeable differences.
41:46
I don't remember them all at this point, 'cause I probably
41:48
read the book seven, eight
41:49
Ryan: okay.
41:50
Jon: now.
41:51
But yeah, I mean it's, the book is definitely a different experience and
41:55
I can dig it out and lend it to you.
41:57
It's definitely worth it.
41:58
And while we're, just to go back to wonderful additions of stuff, there's a
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beautiful region B battle royale box set
42:07
Kearns: Oh yeah.
42:08
Jon: has two different cuts of battle royale.
42:11
Two different cuts of the sequel.
42:13
A book, like it's in this beautiful box.
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Like
42:19
Kearns: That's cool.
42:19
Ryan: Is the sequel worth it though?
42:22
Kearns: Yeah.
42:24
Jon: I don't like, listen, it might, be for some people I did not like the sequel.
42:29
It doesn't have a lot of the feel of the original.
42:32
Ryan: director
42:33
Kearns: to live up to.
42:34
Yeah.
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Ryan: The director died while filming it from cancer.
42:37
Kearns: That sucks.
42:39
Jon: And it's, just a, different experience.
42:41
Like he's doing something different.
42:43
He's not, like, oh, people like game element of this with, and
42:48
I'm just gonna do that again.
42:50
He's not doing that.
42:51
He's, he's taking characters and moving them forward and it's a fun
42:56
direction to take those characters in, but it just didn't work for
42:59
Ryan: Do you think
43:00
Kearns: Hmm.
43:01
Ryan: didn't die of cancer, you think it would've been a different film?
43:04
Because it, it seems like he's got a different perspective in the first
43:08
one that maybe another director taking over, uh, Allah Superman.
43:12
Two.
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Jon: Maybe, but I don't, think so.
43:16
I think this was the direction he wanted to go
43:18
Ryan: Okay.
43:18
Jon: it's more, it's now NHA and and Rebellion, you know, the
43:25
kids are now fighting, the adults and the government and it, like,
43:30
Ryan: Okay.
43:32
Jon: it's, not for me.
43:35
Like I'm sure there are people who like it.
43:37
I'm sure it's got, it's um, it can't be as well received as battle Royale, but.
43:42
Kearns: when you go the anarchy route, like it sounds like two went, it's,
43:45
that's a different message than what the first movie's putting out there.
43:48
The first movie's putting out there is an indictment of an older generation
43:52
Ryan: Yes.
43:53
Kearns: and what they're doing when they're supposed to be planting trees
43:56
for the younger generation to shade in.
43:58
So.
43:59
Jon: Mm-hmm.
44:00
And you know, if you want to go with that is more of the conviction
44:04
and sentencing of the adults.
44:07
Kearns: Uh, a little French Revolution.
44:09
Action.
44:10
Little la
44:10
Jon: Yeah, kind
44:11
Kearns: ine.
44:11
Yeah.
44:12
Cool.
44:13
Cool.
44:13
Deal.
44:14
Jon: yeah.
44:15
Kearns: So, how do we feel about how this one ended?
44:16
Oops, sorry.
44:18
Jon: Well, I can give you a couple one stars that, I'll give you some
44:21
idea of that they're both really short 'cause I had to work hard for ones.
44:26
one Star Dubs are terrible, which I think we agree
44:30
Kearns: Mm-hmm.
44:30
Jon: aren't
44:30
Ryan: Yeah,
44:31
Jon: Dubs aren't great.
44:32
Kearns: Dubs aren't great, right?
44:33
Jon: I know people, I know people don't like to read movies, but read the
44:39
Ryan: healthy.
44:39
Jon: You get a better sense of what
44:40
Kearns: I read all of Sweet Home, had no problem.
44:44
Jon: it gives you a better picture of what you're watching.
44:47
Kearns: I have more trouble reading live action than I do anime, but,
44:51
but it's still not a big issue.
44:53
But I also read fast.
44:54
I'm a reader.
44:56
Jon: Yeah, dubs are terrible and it has none of the good themes of the original
45:01
book and does it a massive injustice,
45:05
Kearns: Ooh.
45:06
Yeah.
45:06
I don't know about all that.
45:07
Jon: it, I don't think it did an injustice to the book.
45:09
it's not the same experience, but, and then there's
45:13
Kearns: Yeah,
45:13
Jon: star, which gets into what I fear is going to happen
45:17
long term with battle rail.
45:20
one star, battle Royale was difficult for me to watch, considering
45:24
the gore and the violence.
45:26
I mean, there's not that much gore.
45:27
It's violent, for
45:28
Kearns: it's campy Gore
45:30
Ryan: gore.
45:31
Kearns: there's
45:31
Ryan: Yep.
45:31
Kearns: packs that explode and stuff.
45:34
It's pretty funny.
45:35
The sensei stands up with like 27 bullet holes in him to catch a cell phone call.
45:39
Jon: Yeah.
45:40
Ryan: I am not coming home.
45:42
Kearns: Yeah.
45:43
It's so dumb.
45:44
Jon: It sh it showed the true instincts of humans when the choice becomes kill or
45:50
be killed in a way, it reminded me of the very popular Hunger Games and Squid Games.
45:58
No squid Games in the Hunger Games reminded you of Battle
46:01
Ryan: I feel like
46:01
Kearns: Yeah.
46:02
Fair.
46:02
Ryan: though.
46:04
Jon: It is,
46:05
Ryan: Are different.
46:05
Jon: can see, I can see how you get to them being similar though.
46:09
Ryan: Yes.
46:09
Jon: it's a game.
46:11
it's a game with fatal consequences for not playing it well or winning.
46:18
I,
46:18
Kearns: And Squid Game is more unique.
46:20
It is not a direct copy.
46:22
Like if Squid Games was you wake up and you were, you were
46:25
chosen, you didn't choose, and all those things, then that's an,
46:28
Jon: Mm-hmm.
46:28
Kearns: that's getting closer.
46:29
Jon: But like, like if you told me the people who created squid games
46:33
were influenced by battle morale, I wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me in the
46:36
Kearns: And squid games is going after wealthy elites and the poor.
46:39
That's more of a class thing than a generation thing too.
46:43
Jon: Yeah.
46:44
It.
46:46
It was very violent for me and I did not like seeing so many kids involved.
46:50
It was very extreme with a lot of blood and harsh violence.
46:54
I would not recommend this move to watch.
46:58
the movie did not spend time having the audience get to
47:01
know the characters before the
47:03
Kearns: Love that John reads the typos to like extra, dig it in there.
47:07
Ryan: The move,
47:08
Jon: Uh,
47:08
Kearns: One stars this move.
47:10
Ryan: it's the move.
47:10
Kearns: Uh, I mean, yeah, but you watch the wrong movie, lad.
47:15
That's, that's all that is.
47:17
Jon: Yeah, I, if
47:20
I, it's an, this movie should not surprise anybody for what it is.
47:24
It's, you know, there, there is, uh, there, there are definitely the elements
47:29
of that, that stylized Japanese violence.
47:32
Ryan: Yeah.
47:34
Jon: if you're watching a Japanese movie like that, you
47:37
kind of should know to expect it.
47:39
Ryan: Agreed.
47:40
Jon: That's what's coming.
47:42
That's what you know.
47:43
Ryan: Yeah,
47:43
Kearns: Yeah.
47:44
Jon: And I mean, if, if you want gore, you didn't, you're not watching battle morale.
47:50
Like battle morale is not gore.
47:53
Ryan: feel like the only thing that maybe was as gory was the
47:57
arrow scene in the beginning, and that's not even that bad, know?
48:01
Jon: And there, there's a bit in the lighthouse,
48:05
Kearns: Yeah.
48:05
Jon: you know, with poisoning, but it's not.
48:10
I, it's not, it's like I've never seen the Hunger Games movies, but
48:15
I can't imagine it's more gory
48:17
Kearns: Coolest Goriest.
48:19
Most horror part.
48:21
Most hoist, I'll get my word in your dictionary, Ryan, is that, is that
48:25
when he throws the head with the grenade in it, in his mouth inside
48:28
of the house to flush him out?
48:29
That part was cool as heck.
48:31
Ryan: was cool.
48:31
Kearns: I was like,
48:31
Jon: That.
48:33
Ryan: That was unexpected.
48:34
Jon: so awesome.
48:35
He's just, there because he enjoyed the
48:38
Ryan: Yep.
48:38
Jon: first time.
48:39
Kearns: yeah, he's the devil.
48:40
Jon: mean, like, like kata, you, go into it expecting, okay.
48:45
They're both transfer students.
48:47
They're both probably not gonna be good people.
48:50
They're both like just here because they had fun and they wanted to do it again.
48:55
But Kata is not that he, you expect him to be, but he's more sensitive.
49:00
He, you know, he, I think this is one of the things that even
49:03
subtitle doesn't translate.
49:05
He's looking for the meaning his girlfriend's last smile.
49:11
Ryan: Yes.
49:12
Kearns: Which is interesting.
49:13
Ryan: Yeah,
49:14
Jon: I
49:14
Kearns: Yeah.
49:14
Ryan: there's a motion and it, it shows in it.
49:18
It shows,
49:18
Jon: think that's, probably a concept that either didn't translate well
49:23
or is like uniquely Ja Japanese, but you know, he, it shows him in a
49:31
different light from the other guy who's just there to take people out.
49:36
Kearns: Yeah, it's his whole deal.
49:39
All right,
49:39
Ryan: Yeah.
49:40
Kearns: so we get to the end, we, find the hackers.
49:44
So we do a little good stuff here.
49:45
The hackers hack the system.
49:47
They take out the government guards, big configuration.
49:52
There's that big showdown with the big batty.
49:54
They, they trio of good guys really is what they are.
49:57
Ryan: Yeah.
49:58
Kearns: Takes them out or manages to kill him, but at a great cost to
50:02
our other, other previous winner.
50:04
but the two, the two other two just basically rode through the whole
50:07
thing on getting lucky and not hurting anybody, which is sort of interesting.
50:12
Ryan: Oh
50:12
Kearns: pacifists.
50:14
Jon: it's, it's an interesting strategy, but I bet it's a pretty
50:18
term would be a pretty successful
50:20
Kearns: I'm sure it's better than hunting.
50:21
Jon: of like, you sort of stay under the radar for as long as you can
50:26
and then strategically eliminate people at the end if you have
50:30
Kearns: Yep.
50:31
No, it's common in battle royale games, camping, the exit.
50:35
Jon: I think
50:35
Ryan: Camping.
50:36
Jon: probably kind of common in most of those reality shows, too.
50:39
Like the survivor, people make alliances, but you don't get the,
50:44
I don't know if you necessarily get everybody out for blood every time
50:48
Kearns: Right.
50:48
Ryan: Yeah.
50:50
Kearns: And those characters, make their way to the sensei who seems to
50:54
want to die when he shoots at them with a water gun or pretends to.
50:57
And then they, the, our pacifist does shoot him a lot.
51:01
Jon: Mm-hmm.
51:01
Kearns: he takes a few and then he takes that phone call,
51:04
says he is not coming home.
51:05
They did some character building with him.
51:06
He talks to his wife or girlfriend or daughter.
51:09
Ryan: Daughter.
51:09
Jon: think it's his daughter.
51:11
Kearns: It seems so She's really mean to him.
51:13
Jon: yeah, they, you get the impression that there's not a lot of people
51:18
in his life who like him very much.
51:21
Kearns: And then he sort of seems to want to check out at the end anyway.
51:24
That's why he did it that way.
51:25
And then when they're on the boat,
51:28
Jon: he also, has kind of an obsession with noco.
51:31
Kearns: yeah.
51:32
Ryan: I feel like it's.
51:33
Jon: maybe not
51:34
Kearns: Not great.
51:35
Jon: above
51:36
Ryan: I thought it
51:36
Kearns: Yeah,
51:37
Ryan: daughter.
51:38
'cause he doesn't have a good relationship with
51:40
Kearns: it's tricky because Japanese men are known for
51:43
coveting that age group of girl.
51:45
Jon: yeah.
51:46
Ryan: yeah.
51:46
Kearns: Um,
51:47
Jon: And he like, he like.
51:50
Ryan: a hard
51:50
Jon: I
51:51
Ryan: wire.
51:51
Jon: that that's what it is.
51:52
But like he's got the painting of all the other kids taken out
51:56
with her as the winner, like foreground, and almost like haloed.
52:03
Kearns: yeah.
52:04
Jon: it's an interesting way of, presenting that.
52:08
Kearns: It leaves it basically up to us, but they put a lot of effort into
52:11
it for that, which is bizarre too.
52:14
so he dies.
52:15
Then we, we we're, we're on the boat and our previous winners enjoying
52:19
his last smoke and he also parishes.
52:22
And then it's just our two, our, our first two in our last two.
52:25
And they're on the land because the government wants 'em.
52:29
They weren't supposed to both win, which is also a Hunger Games thing.
52:33
It's so weird.
52:34
Jon: They weren't, they weren't supposed to win.
52:36
They weren't supposed to escape.
52:37
They weren't supposed to off katano.
52:40
They weren't like everything.
52:43
They didn't last 30 minutes, they weren't supposed to do.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: And that makes it
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Kearns: I wonder if they cut that when they aired it on TV or if they
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showed them doing all that cool stuff.
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I doubt it
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Ryan: I don't think this one was on P 11.
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Kearns: now.
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Definitely not pay-per-view.
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Jon: think had this one.
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Kearns: But that's it.
53:02
That's battle royale guys.
53:04
It's definitely worth a watch if nothing else, to critique for how it was stolen.
53:09
and it's, it itself is not a novel idea in Japanese, culture or in American.
53:15
Stephen King, I will always say,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: me, came out with the long Walk, which is sort of the archetypical
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story in the US of the children being set out as sacrifices kind of thing.
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Ryan: The children,
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Kearns: I think that a lot of children stuff early in his career
53:30
Ryan: ed Cujo
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: lot.
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Kearns: 'cause gets scary.
53:36
I guess that's 'cause it's scary.
53:37
There's always kids in his stuff anyway, but like,
53:39
Ryan: I mean,
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Kearns: building into the corn
53:41
Ryan: oh God,
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Kearns: that's got children in the title for Pete's sake.
53:45
Ryan: I, I salem's lot.
53:46
I mean, idea of a kid who is dead, you know, flush of blood and then
53:53
it's like the middle of the night and you hear him tapping at your window.
53:57
It's just since chills down your spine.
53:59
Especially in
54:00
Kearns: your childhood chum.
54:01
They could have made it more visceral if it was like, if they
54:03
put the dad scene in, right.
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Ryan: Yeah.
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Kearns: The book, doesn't he tap at his mom's window too or something like that?
54:10
Ryan: uh,
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Kearns: He
54:11
Ryan: he
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Kearns: menas them.
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Ryan: The mom, no, the mom lets, uh, lets him in and he
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: spoiler.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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That's the end of that.
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so that's battle royale everybody.
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Hope you enjoyed it and let's hear some top fives.
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Ryan: All right, tonight I am going with Top five in general movies
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that ripped off other movies.
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So figured I go down this route.
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I was gonna do slasher, but there's every, everything's based on Halloween.
54:37
So I'm going off the chain with this one and I'm starting with number five.
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The first one lockout starring Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace.
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It was written by Luke Besson, who wrote Lafe Nikita Leon Professional, and it is
54:53
a absolute ripoff of escape from New York.
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Kearns: Nice.
54:57
Ryan: premise, war criminal.
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He gets sent to a war torn area at this time, a space
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station, a prison Sta station.
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Escaped from New York.
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Snake Polskin goes to New York.
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Rescue the president, rescue the president's daughter, very similar.
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And John Carpenter, uh, sued Luke Besson for this and won the French
55:20
government said, this is a definite rip off of Escape from New York.
55:23
So go John Carpenter.
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Uh, my
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Kearns: I did not know that.
55:27
Ryan: Oh,
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Jon: To be fair, John Carpenter ultimately ripped himself off
55:32
of that too with Escape from
55:33
Ryan: oh God.
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We don't talk about that.
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surfboard scene.
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Jon: What you, you can't surf in the middle of
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Ryan: I, I mean you could, but a whole other story depending on the time of day.
55:46
But my number four, it's mentioning surfing.
55:49
Ironically, Fast and the Furious is a hundred percent a rip off of point break.
55:58
Yeah.
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Jon: I
55:59
Ryan: Johnny Uda.
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Jon: It's, it's, it,
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Ryan: Brian Walker.
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Jon: point, it's point break with
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Ryan: Yeah.
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It's, I mean, you got a
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Kearns: And way worse acting.
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Jon: Yeah.
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Ryan: Come on.
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Kearns: They get the star power endpoint break compared to what?
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What a polished herd Fast and Furious is.
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Ryan: Oh, you got
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Kearns: There's nobody who can act and fast and furious.
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Ryan: Diesel,
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Jon: Now, I, I
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Kearns: You're proving my point.
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I
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Jon: and the Furious franchise is the rare franchise that gets more fun.
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The further into
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Kearns: Yes, because they get worse.
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Ryan: yeah.
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Jon: because the last four or five of 'em are just absolutely ridiculous.
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But they're, they're fun.
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The first couple are just dull.
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Kearns: Well, they were serious.
56:43
They were real like trying to be real car movies and people were out
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there buying mods for their civics and stuff like crazy after it.
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Jon: Yeah.
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Ryan: first two.
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I, I love the first two.
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fourth one brings it back to like form the fifth and I I up to the seventh.
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The eighth one?
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No, the ninth one in space.
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No.
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Jon: Man n no that, see, that's when I, that's when I think
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that that franchise hits, hits
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Ryan: Who goes,
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Jon: it's just, they just accept that this whole franchise is ridiculous
57:16
and we're gonna be as ridiculous as we
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Ryan: who was it ludicrous?
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Did he get sent
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: or
57:24
Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Ludicrous was
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Kearns: Don't forget.
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Hi, Reese with Eject O, CTO C, all that.
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All right.
57:31
What's your next one?
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Not for this nonsense,
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Ryan: next one, we've mentioned it before, my number three is slither
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that borrows from, uh, shivers,
57:41
Kearns: Oh, shivers.
57:42
Ryan: in night of the creeps.
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Jon: Yeah.
57:45
Ryan: It's a combination.
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Um, not slither.
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Kearns: When you get into like B Horror, they're kind of all the same
57:50
Ryan: Yeah,
57:51
Kearns: Many.
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I mean, there's a lot that's wrong with that statement, but there's
57:54
also a lot that's right with it.
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Ryan: yeah.
57:56
No, no.
57:57
It's true.
57:57
That's why I avoided the slasher route because it was gonna be a
58:01
copy of a copy, but I feel like.
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I mean, lockout is a decent movie, you know?
58:06
fast and Furious is a decent movie to watch.
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Slither is an excellent movie.
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It stands on its own.
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Gunn does.
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He borrows and that's fine 'cause he gives it his unique taste.
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you got Michael Ruger, you got Fillon, you got Elizabeth Banks.
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Did, did I say his name wrong?
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I was waiting for Rucker.
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Jon: I've always thought it was
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Ryan: Rucker.
58:27
Okay.
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Michael Rucker.
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No chocolate pretzels though for him.
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Kearns: John's facial expressions give him away too easily.
58:35
Kinda stay dead pan like me, John.
58:37
Ryan: well number two.
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two, I'm gonna roll up my sleeves because I do like this movie,
58:44
Kearns: We gonna fight
58:45
Ryan: It's a fistful of dollars.
58:48
And, yo, yo Jimbo, yo Jimbo is definitely a, the Samurai sword
58:53
against the Revolver is, I love the concept more the revolver against
58:58
the rifle, but they're both classics.
59:00
They're both classics.
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I like a for a few dollars more better, saying,
59:04
Kearns: $2 more is better.
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Ryan: oh, with the, the
59:07
Kearns: Yeah.
59:07
For a few dollars more.
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Ryan: I'll stand on my soapbox and say, that's better than
59:12
Kearns: Alright.
59:12
Ryan: and good in the bad and the ugly.
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Kearns: I mean, you can't, you're not wrong.
59:15
It's just, it's so tough to get like to, to Smirch.
59:18
Such a wonderful piece of Americana.
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Ryan: Oh,
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Kearns: Clint Eastwood's still hanging on there, by the way.
59:24
Jon: Yeah.
59:24
Kearns: Yeah, baby.
59:26
Ryan: see
59:26
Kearns: he's gone cuckoo for cocoa pups a little bit, but that's fine.
59:29
Ryan: Dairy Harry movie in the mix.
59:31
Jack Nicholson has the villain.
59:32
Let's do it.
59:33
Kearns: Ooh, let's hit it.
59:34
Uh, he would've to drag his fat arse outta his apartment.
59:38
He's in rough shape
59:40
Jon: what would another dirty, hairy movie be right
59:43
Ryan: We have
59:44
Jon: He's
59:45
Kearns: how racist the Dirty Harry is.
59:48
Jon: he's solving crimes in the nursing
59:50
Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan: Ted.
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Kearns: be more like, uh, Bubba Hotep,
59:53
Ryan: can do it,
59:54
Jon: yeah.
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Ryan: Hoep can do it.
59:56
Dirty
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Kearns: speaking of
59:57
Jon: Well,
59:58
Kearns: implicit racism, did.
1:00:00
Jon: Ted Danson show is based on a documentary.
1:00:03
Ryan: show
1:00:03
Kearns: Oh, really?
1:00:04
Jon: Yeah.
1:00:05
There's an Argentin documentary where a guy actually does that,
1:00:10
like he thinks that there's like abuse going on in a nursing home,
1:00:13
so he goes undercover in a nursing
1:00:15
Ryan: Oh, that's
1:00:15
Kearns: And but he finds abuse, by the way.
1:00:18
Jon: Oh, absolutely.
1:00:20
Kearns: Yeah.
1:00:21
All right, Ryan, what's next?
1:00:22
Ryan: one.
1:00:23
Um, hoping to see this in theaters.
1:00:25
This, uh, I think November, December, um, it's gonna be Kill Bill and that's
1:00:30
based on a movie called Lady Snowbird.
1:00:33
Um, which I learned today and I love Kill Bill, but Lady
1:00:37
Snowbird has a cult following.
1:00:40
Jon: or snow
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Kearns: Now is this, is this derivative of, or is this stolen from, because
1:00:44
isn't it pretty implied that he's, he's paying homage the whole time,
1:00:48
Ryan: it's very derivative.
1:00:49
similar stories with the revenge concept.
1:00:51
the list.
1:00:53
But Kill Bill is more popular 'cause it's Tarantino.
1:00:58
Kearns: but Yeah.
1:00:59
Ryan: Ladies, snow, blood, snowbird,
1:01:01
Jon: original, it's
1:01:02
Ryan: it's snow Blood.
1:01:03
I got Snowbird, I'm sorry,
1:01:04
Jon: the original, also in 1973
1:01:07
Ryan: peak Japanese film.
1:01:10
Jon: but like it, it's peak Japanese film, but it's not peak Japanese
1:01:14
film saturating American markets.
1:01:18
Ryan: Okay.
1:01:18
Fair.
1:01:19
Because like you, if you think about it, on a side note, you go into Awa, seven
1:01:23
Samurai, magnificent seven Yo Jimbo Fist, full of dollars Hidden Fortress.
1:01:29
Star Wars, ladies and gentlemen.
1:01:31
Um,
1:01:32
Jon: Mm-hmm.
1:01:33
Ryan: you know, I guess it had to take time.
1:01:35
It's like Things running up that hill.
1:01:39
Uh, Kate, Kate Bush once.
1:01:43
The show aired it with the song it beca she became a big head again.
1:01:46
So it's like, it takes time.
1:01:48
But, no Kill Bill.
1:01:49
It's just a classic.
1:01:50
he does do a lot of homages.
1:01:53
it's a lady snow blood, and to a lot of other samurai classics and,
1:01:57
a lot of knots and I can't wait.
1:02:00
Jon: I mean that's kind of his thing, right?
1:02:02
Like
1:02:03
Ryan: Oh yeah,
1:02:03
Jon: all of his movies have the, at least a passing homage to stuff
1:02:08
that he loved from 30 years earlier.
1:02:11
Ryan: God.
1:02:11
The Jackie Brown, uh, with black, uh, blacksploitation film, uh, pulp Fiction,
1:02:17
rest of her dogs with Um, even with, um, death proof with that horror, which
1:02:25
Kearns: Yeah.
1:02:25
Ryan: I, I like death proof between the both of them,
1:02:29
but just me being a Terrance,
1:02:31
Jon: I prefer planet terror.
1:02:33
Ryan: yes I can.
1:02:34
It's that the zombies.
1:02:35
Bruce Willis turning Josh Brolin.
1:02:38
That hand scene gets me though.
1:02:40
the worst scene.
1:02:41
It's not as, you know, bring her back, is like right there.
1:02:45
And then
1:02:46
Jon: Mm.
1:02:46
Ryan: the hand scene's there.
1:02:48
I, I, you know, but John, what's your
1:02:51
Kearns: Mute him.
1:02:52
How do I mute him?
1:02:53
Jon: let, let, let me, let me just hit you with
1:02:55
Kearns: He's a cohost.
1:02:56
I can't
1:02:57
Jon: I'm, I'm giving out a whole bunch of physical media recommendations.
1:03:01
There's a Criterion released Lady Snow,
1:03:05
Ryan: Ooh,
1:03:05
Jon: and there's a Criterion Sale on Barnes and Noble right now, 50%
1:03:09
off, so it's probably like 20 bucks.
1:03:10
Highly,
1:03:11
Kearns: say what.
1:03:12
Jon: recommend
1:03:12
Ryan: I will definitely, um, that's my goal this week, lady.
1:03:15
Snow, blood.
1:03:16
I'm gonna, actually,
1:03:17
Jon: Yeah, highly recommend it.
1:03:21
Okay, so I went
1:03:26
top five games in movies, and I didn't stick to horror this time because Battle
1:03:32
Royal isn't like a true horror movie.
1:03:35
So I feel like that left me open to go with some non horror movies
1:03:40
with games, which is evident in my number five surviving the Game.
1:03:46
Ryan: Oh,
1:03:46
Kearns: he's back.
1:03:47
I heard something.
1:03:48
Ryan: Sorry.
1:03:48
thought we lost you.
1:03:49
Jon: Okay.
1:03:50
Kearns: Okay.
1:03:50
Let's get it done.
1:03:51
Jon: No, I, I can tell 'cause you guys stopped moving when I, when I go out,
1:03:57
I was like, wait, they're not moving.
1:03:58
Uhoh.
1:03:59
Kearns: Oh,
1:04:01
Jon: Oh no, it happened again.
1:04:02
So anyway, my number five is surviving the game.
1:04:05
Ryan: Okay.
1:04:06
Kearns: okay.
1:04:06
Surviving the game.
1:04:08
Ryan: the game.
1:04:08
Jon: yep.
1:04:09
Yeah.
1:04:09
A homeless man played by ice tea thinks he has been hired as a survival guide,
1:04:14
Kearns: That's a good one.
1:04:15
Jon: is to be the prey for a group of rich hunters in this
1:04:19
variant of the most dangerous
1:04:20
Ryan: I'm sold.
1:04:21
Kearns: It's a good movie.
1:04:22
Jon: Um, it's, oh, it's such a good movie
1:04:25
Kearns: I like when he tricksy with the cigarettes.
1:04:27
It's my favorite.
1:04:29
Jon: Yep.
1:04:30
So it's an, it's an Earnest Dickerson movie.
1:04:32
You guys will know him by his other works.
1:04:35
He's awesome.
1:04:36
Rutger Hower, Charles Dutton, Gary Busey.
1:04:39
He, the cast rules the, the action is awesome.
1:04:43
Ice tea is cool and it highly recommend surviving the game.
1:04:47
my number four is back to her.
1:04:50
Would you rather.
1:04:51
Ryan: Oh,
1:04:52
Kearns: Ah.
1:04:55
Jon: So a, woman played by Brittany Snow agrees to take part in a game
1:04:59
hoping to win and help her sick brother.
1:05:02
She soon realizes this game has devastating consequences for the losers.
1:05:08
it's, this also has a really fun cast, including Jeffrey Combs, retired adult
1:05:14
actress, Sasha Gray and Wells, who's Ricky from the Trailer Park Boys.
1:05:21
Kearns: heard of her.
1:05:23
Ryan: She was in Entourage.
1:05:24
Jon: Now me, I'd never heard of her either.
1:05:26
I knew her from her.
1:05:27
I work at
1:05:28
Ryan: Yeah, she was in,
1:05:29
Kearns: Yes,
1:05:29
Ryan: she was Vincent Chase's, uh, girlfriend for season seven.
1:05:34
Jon: Yeah.
1:05:34
Kearns: nifty.
1:05:35
Ryan: Yeah.
1:05:36
Jon: yeah, that's where I know her from.
1:05:37
Ryan: What
1:05:38
Jon: had to look up the retired adult actors part.
1:05:40
I didn't know that.
1:05:43
Kearns: Give it a complete dead pan on it too.
1:05:45
It's great.
1:05:46
All right.
1:05:47
Moving on.
1:05:48
Jon: Um, my number three, I feel like could almost on Ryan's list.
1:05:54
It, it, it's, it's more ripped off than it's a ripoff.
1:05:59
It's a movie called Cube.
1:06:00
Kearns: You could have said then a bandaid and a bathtub.
1:06:03
Come on man.
1:06:04
Ryan: we're talking about.
1:06:05
Jon: a, um,
1:06:06
Kearns: Ew.
1:06:06
Baby cube is a ripoff.
1:06:08
Jon: cube.
1:06:08
Ryan: Yep.
1:06:09
Jon: No, I, I fee that is cube is less the ripoff than the ripoff
1:06:14
Ryan: Yes.
1:06:15
Jon: He's like recently watched,
1:06:17
Ryan: Yep.
1:06:18
Jon: there's a lot of
1:06:19
Kearns: There's the platform one too.
1:06:21
Jon: of cube elements
1:06:22
Kearns: Yeah, there's the one with the platform levels.
1:06:25
Jon: also.
1:06:25
Yeah.
1:06:26
Ryan: Yep.
1:06:26
Jon: Yeah.
1:06:27
Um, so six strangers wake to find themselves trapped in a cube that
1:06:31
opens into a maze of deadly rooms.
1:06:34
As they progress through the maze.
1:06:36
Escape seems more unlikely and death lurks behind every
1:06:40
Ryan: I heard they were
1:06:41
Kearns: Hey.
1:06:41
Ryan: remake of it.
1:06:43
think it's a rumor.
1:06:43
Oh, they are.
1:06:44
All right.
1:06:44
I thought it was a rumor.
1:06:46
Jon: No, I, no, I, it may actually be coming out in the next month or two.
1:06:52
I, I saw something about it really recently.
1:06:55
Kearns: It's gonna be extra gory.
1:06:57
Ryan: that, yep.
1:06:58
Jon: four or five sequels and a Japanese version and like everybody,
1:07:04
Ryan: The Japanese version, I think was first, I think, right?
1:07:08
Jon: it may have been
1:07:10
Ryan: I'm trying to remember.
1:07:11
Jon: this might, this might be in one of the rare times it went the other way.
1:07:15
Ryan: Huh?
1:07:16
Kearns: Okay.
1:07:16
Ryan: Win for us.
1:07:17
All right.
1:07:19
Jon: Yeah.
1:07:19
my number two is the least known of the, the movies on here.
1:07:24
It's a movie called Beyond the Gates.
1:07:27
Kearns: Okay.
1:07:27
Jon: so two brothers reunite at their Missing Father's video store to sell it.
1:07:32
When they discover a VHS board game as they play it, the mystery of their
1:07:37
missing dad begins to be revealed, as does the true danger of this game.
1:07:43
And, you know, this has.
1:07:45
This has a really cool indie horror cast with Barbara Crampton Graham,
1:07:50
skipper Chase Williamson, who is so awesome in, uh, John dies at the
1:07:54
end, and Bria Grant, who's really good in a whole bunch of stuff.
1:08:00
Highly re highly recommend beyond, beyond the
1:08:02
Ryan: Got my attention.
1:08:03
Jon: And my number, one is definitely not horror.
1:08:07
And feel like it's kind of underrated.
1:08:11
I, it, it gets forgotten sometimes because David Fincher has made so many other
1:08:17
Ryan: Oh, I know what you're talking about.
1:08:18
Jon: num, my number one is
1:08:20
Ryan: That's such a good film.
1:08:21
Kearns: I love that movie.
1:08:22
I was wondering if you were gonna bring it out.
1:08:25
Jon: Uh, absolutely.
1:08:26
Ryan: good.
1:08:27
Jon: Michael Douglas, Sean Penn, Nicholas lives a very wealthy
1:08:31
structured life until his brother purchases a birthday gift for him.
1:08:35
That changes everything overnight.
1:08:38
Nicholas finds his life in danger from this immersive game.
1:08:43
Kearns: It's a good one.
1:08:44
If you haven't seen the game, watch the game.
1:08:46
Ryan: Yep.
1:08:47
Jada born for me for my birthday.
1:08:49
It's awesome.
1:08:50
Jon: think it's a Criterion Release, so
1:08:52
Kearns: There you go.
1:08:53
Jon: on boards and Noble, 50%
1:08:55
Ryan: the,
1:08:55
Kearns: There you go.
1:08:56
Ryan: the old school original release back in the early two thousands.
1:08:59
It wasn't the soft slip cover, it was the hard one.
1:09:02
Like when they.
1:09:03
Kearns: Oh, nice.
1:09:04
Ryan: was like, all
1:09:04
Kearns: Very nice.
1:09:05
Ryan: film.
1:09:07
Kearns: Good film as was Battle Royale.
1:09:09
Ryan: Yeah, it
1:09:09
Kearns: Thank you guys.
1:09:10
Hope you enjoyed.
1:09:16
Be very afraid.