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The fight against antisemitism in the U.S. · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt. Lots to cover today, including developments in the
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Speaker 1: war with Iran and the attack on the synagogue in
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Speaker 1: West Bloomfield. I'm starting the hour with Dan Senor. He
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Speaker 1: is founder and host Have Called Me Back. Arcmedia has
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Speaker 1: Call Me Back insider. I think you ought to be
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Speaker 1: a Call Me Back insider because it's probably consistently the
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Speaker 1: best coverage of the war anywhere in the podcasting world.
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Speaker 1: And I hope my friends at Commentary aren't mad at me.
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Speaker 1: Dan's on their board, so he'll smooth it out if
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Speaker 1: it's that's the case. But Dan sin Or, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to DA all the times.
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Speaker 2: Good to be with you, and we love commentary magazine,
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Speaker 2: and then John Is and the team are close friends,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not only on the board, but I appear
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Speaker 2: on their podcast all the time, so it's we're all
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Speaker 2: in the same family.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was listening to Rich Goldberg today and
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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, the difference between commentary and Dan
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Speaker 1: Senor is that you do interviews. They do discussions and arguments,
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Speaker 1: so they are always arguing with each other, and you
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Speaker 1: were usually interviewing one, two, three, four different people. And
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Speaker 1: I think Call Me Back has filled the niche in
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Speaker 1: American media that is sadly missing serious reporting about the war.
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Speaker 1: How big is the gap between, in your opinion, Dan,
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Speaker 1: war reporting in World War Two, maybe Korea, even early
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Speaker 1: Vietnam and today.
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Speaker 3: That's a great question.
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Speaker 4: I think this in many respects the.
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Speaker 2: Last two and a half years, so really go from
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Speaker 2: October seventh to twenty twenty three, through the course of
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Speaker 2: the Gaza War and obviously now the Iron War. These
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Speaker 2: wars have been the subject of extraordinary scrutiny. They've gotten
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Speaker 2: more attention than I don't know about World War Two,
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Speaker 2: but certainly you go back to the Vietnam wars, it's
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Speaker 2: on a scale of the kind of scrutiny and coverage
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Speaker 2: of the Vietnam War, except now we have TikTok and
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Speaker 2: Instagram and other social media platforms, and so it's sort
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Speaker 2: of like everybody's a journalist.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's covering everything.
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Speaker 2: And so the intense, the depth and the breadth of
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Speaker 2: the coverage is enormous. And yet, Hugh, it's very hard,
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Speaker 2: despite this incredible microscope that those engaged in military operations,
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Speaker 2: whether there are Israelis or Americans, are under it is
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Speaker 2: very difficult to really understand what's happening in the war.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you saided that episode with Rich Coldberg that
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Speaker 2: we released today. Rich was excellent for a variety of reasons,
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Speaker 2: not the least of which is he actually just explained
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Speaker 2: what we know about what is going on in the war.
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Speaker 2: What are the objectives, where are we in meeting with subjectives,
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Speaker 2: what are the metrics for success, what are various scenarios
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Speaker 2: that we could pursue, imagine pursuing, What are ways in
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Speaker 2: which this could go sideways? Just very specific, not emotional,
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Speaker 2: very clinical, very analytical, and giving people an understanding of.
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Speaker 3: The war and war fighting, and that there's.
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Speaker 2: Tragically not that much of that in the news media
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Speaker 2: today and so that's one, not the only, but.
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Speaker 3: That's one of the things we're trying to do.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 1: Let me talk to you about American impatience. I think
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Speaker 1: during World War Two, my mom was a nurse in Cleveland,
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Speaker 1: my dad was to Hell and beyond, and they didn't
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Speaker 1: see each other for most of four years. And my question, now,
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Speaker 1: Americans want to know what's going to happen tomorrow. And
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Speaker 1: I went to Bletchley Park this summer to tour the
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Speaker 1: Great en Egma facility. The German codes. We being the
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Speaker 1: Brits first, and they're not. And I'm comparing it to
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Speaker 1: even a year ago when the Israelis blew up the
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Speaker 1: beepers in the pagers. We don't telegraph punches, we keep
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Speaker 1: secrets in more time. Do you think Americans just don't
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Speaker 1: get it anymore that we can't say what we're doing.
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Speaker 2: I think given it a world in which everyone is
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Speaker 2: walking around with a supercomputer in their pocket and a
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Speaker 2: broadcast facility in their pocket, the ability to record what
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Speaker 2: they think is news or instant analysis or instant commentary
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Speaker 2: and then broadcasted. A world in which no one there
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Speaker 2: are no real controls for better for worse and often
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Speaker 2: for better. There are no real controls on the distribution
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Speaker 2: of media, and there's certainly no controls on the recording
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Speaker 2: of media. Everybody expects instant gratification. They want to be
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Speaker 2: told everything that's happening. You know, it's sort of like,
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Speaker 2: I know you're a football fan, you one of the.
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Speaker 3: One of them.
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Speaker 6: You're in the same hell exactly.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of my favorite broadcasters.
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Speaker 2: This past season, he wasn't as good, but historically the
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Speaker 2: last few seasons, one of my favorite broadcasters is.
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Speaker 4: Tony Romo because Tony Romo, as.
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Speaker 2: You know on on CBS, he when he's doing broadcasts
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Speaker 2: of games.
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Speaker 3: The genius of Tony Romo.
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Speaker 2: Is as the play is being set up and as
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Speaker 2: the as the offense is getting in formation, he can
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Speaker 2: anticipate what is about to happen, and he tells the
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Speaker 2: viewers this is what's likely to happen, this is where
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Speaker 2: this particular play is going. And then the play happens,
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Speaker 2: and then he breaks down and debriefs what just happened.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's how Americans want their news
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Speaker 2: events covered. Tell me what's gonna happen, when it's gonna happen,
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Speaker 2: how it's gonna happen, then tell me it happened, and
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Speaker 2: then after it happened, tell me exactly what happened, and
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Speaker 2: and and they want Tony Romo style coverage minute to
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Speaker 2: minute of what's going on, and.
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Speaker 4: People are trying to provide it.
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Speaker 2: By the way, they're just not doing a very good job,
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Speaker 2: because to your point, it's completely unrealistic to expect military
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Speaker 2: planners and strategists and policymakers to spell out every move
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Speaker 2: the US or Israel is going to make. For example,
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Speaker 2: on the two weeks ago, on the Saturday morning that
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Speaker 2: the war started, the Americans and the Israelis had an
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Speaker 2: intelligence discovery that the forty of the top officials, including
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Leader, would be meeting in the center of
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Speaker 2: Tehran in person, shockingly in person. And there was a
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Speaker 2: rare opportunity to basically decapitate a big part of the
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Speaker 2: regime and completely jam up their command and control and
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Speaker 2: their decision making and their chain of their decision making loop.
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Speaker 2: And that was a big opportunity. It only worked because
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Speaker 2: we were all surprised about it. So at times the
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Speaker 2: element of surprise is extremely important and we should respect that.
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Speaker 2: The same time, it is still useful as journalists know
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Speaker 2: things about how things are going generally to provide that
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Speaker 2: information and report on that information in a very clear way.
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Speaker 2: I think Hegseeth and General Kine have been doing a
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Speaker 2: good job actually in their daily press briefings in providing
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Speaker 2: a picture of what is actually going on in the war.
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Speaker 2: I'm a little frustrated that the press has not been
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Speaker 2: covering it.
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Speaker 1: Now, Dan, I want to ask you what you have
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Speaker 1: been most surprised by. For me, it's that Iran went
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Speaker 1: Yosemite Sam and attacked everybody, including Ozer Brjean in Turkey.
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Speaker 1: It did not make a lick of sense. What has
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Speaker 1: surprised you the most about the first twelve days of
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Speaker 1: the second twelve days of combat with Iran?
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Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say the speed with
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Speaker 2: which Iran was able to just are willing to just
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Speaker 2: fire away, as you said, in all directions, Azerbajean, Turkey Cutter. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: the Emirates and bahare and and it's just like hogwild
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Speaker 2: going crazy.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I used to do early on you early in the war,
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Speaker 2: I meaning a few days ago, not that long ago.
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Speaker 3: I used to.
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Speaker 2: Ascribe that to the theory that Iran was hoping to
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Speaker 2: draw in the Trump administration to put pressure on everyone
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Speaker 2: to just bring the temperature down, including the US, for
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Speaker 2: Trump to just come in and say this thing's got
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Speaker 2: to wind down, and that the Golf States could exert
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Speaker 2: that pressure on the President, and that if the Golf
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Speaker 2: States went running to the President saying this is spiraling
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Speaker 2: out of control, it's creating immense volatility in the region,
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Speaker 2: and you need to shut this down.
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Speaker 3: You know, I kind of bought that theory that that
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Speaker 3: was going on.
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Speaker 4: What I've become more where.
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Speaker 2: My head is not more now as I learn more,
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Speaker 2: as I talk to more and more people, is don't
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Speaker 2: underestimate the degree to which actions that the US and
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Speaker 2: Israel took early on has completely disrupted how they make
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Speaker 2: decisions the Iranians, and they're not being so strategy and
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Speaker 2: they're not being so rational, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: decentralized decision making, especially in the IRGC, and you have
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Speaker 2: some regional IERGC player who's making a decision based on
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Speaker 2: firing off certain munitions in a certain direction. And it's
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Speaker 2: not exactly like the new Supreme Leader is signing off
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Speaker 2: for this new troika.
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Speaker 3: That's quote unquote.
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Speaker 2: Governing Iran's signing off. So it's just a lot of
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Speaker 2: fog of war and a lot of chaos that's resulting
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Speaker 2: in this. So I'm not sure it's that thoughtful A strategy.
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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense, That makes a lot
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Speaker 1: given what they described as their mosaic strategy before the
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Speaker 1: war began, that they had decentralized, you know, the capacity
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Speaker 1: to strike, that makes more sense. Let me ask you
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Speaker 1: about this and American media. This is not the Battle
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Speaker 1: of the Atlantic, all right, the straits of horror.
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Speaker 3: Moves are closed.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to run out of food. The world's
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Speaker 1: not going to run out of oil. We got a
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Speaker 1: minute to the breakdown. Do you think the American media
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Speaker 1: are responsibly covering the fact that, okay, supplies going to
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Speaker 1: be tight. Price, We're going to go high, but it'll
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Speaker 1: be fine in the end. It's not the end of
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 2: Objectively speaking, you, I mean this really objectively like this
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Speaker 2: this war from a military standpoint, we can argue about
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Speaker 2: other tracks, But as far as the military track is concerned.
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Speaker 4: Is it's indisputable that is going well.
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Speaker 2: We are systematically degrading Iran's offensive and defensive capabilities and
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Speaker 2: doing it with the speed with which that is mind
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Speaker 2: blowing to me, and the fact that the American Comedia
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Speaker 2: cannot just say that clearly is astonishing to me.
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Speaker 1: We are winning decisively. We have not yet decisively won.
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Speaker 1: Dan Senor will be back in Hour two America because
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Speaker 1: I'm covering out through all my audience today. Don't go
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Speaker 1: Glory and Eve engraves in America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Hour two. If you heard Hour one today, earned
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Speaker 1: my guest, Dan Senor is the founder of the Call
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Speaker 1: Me Back Pop Cast, probably the most influential podcast since
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Speaker 1: ten seven in America. He's also bought and opened up
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Speaker 1: Arc Media, and ARC Media is spreading out with wonderful
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Speaker 1: recommend you go there. I myself have subscribed to Call
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Speaker 1: Me Back Insider because I don't want to miss and
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Speaker 1: meet Segal or nadave Yl or anybody else, even when
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Speaker 1: your producer, whose name I can't remember, Dan sits down
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Speaker 1: a lot. By the way, he got a great radio voice.
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Speaker 1: He's got the voice I had thirty years ago. He's
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Speaker 1: got a fabulous voice. So I want to say to
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Speaker 1: everyone who's listening to me, you ought to be listening
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Speaker 1: to Dan Senor and call me back and maybe subscribe
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Speaker 1: to call me back insider. Okay, Dan, I didn't mention
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Speaker 1: this an hour one. There is an attack on a
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Speaker 1: synagogue today. I am going to a Christian college in
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Speaker 1: Colorado this weekend, Colorado Christian I'm going to give us
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Speaker 1: a talk to the assembled students, a few couple thousand
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Speaker 1: people about anti Semitism in America and what is the obligation.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to make a theological argument about Israel.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make a real politic argument that the
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Speaker 1: American Israeli Alignment alliance is the most important that the
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Speaker 1: world has seen since the end of the Vietnam War,
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Speaker 1: and that we don't have an ally anywhere close to
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Speaker 1: being as important as Israel, and that Americans got to
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Speaker 1: wake up and recognize that this is the alliance that
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Speaker 1: gets us through Cold War two, and we've got to
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Speaker 1: we've just got to kill off anti Semitism and put
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Speaker 1: it back in the box by shunning, absolutely shunning people
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Speaker 1: who indulge in it. Do you think it'll work.
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 4: First of all, your argument about real politic is exactly right.
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Speaker 2: I think that if you were to drawn a list
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Speaker 2: to top a list of the three or five most
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Speaker 2: important allies to the United States in terms of, if
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Speaker 2: you think about it in purely transactional terms, what do
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Speaker 2: we the US get out of that alliance, I think
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Speaker 2: Israel will be near the top of the list, if
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Speaker 2: not at the top of the list. And there were
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Speaker 2: countries that I think were more valuable allies of the US,
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Speaker 2: like the UK historically, and I think Israel has surpassed
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Speaker 2: the UK in terms of what we get out of
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Speaker 2: the relationship. We get in terms out of the relationship,
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Speaker 2: in terms of leverage in a strategically important part of
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Speaker 2: the region, the Middle East, that Israel gives us in
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Speaker 2: terms of real integration from a military and intelligence standpoint,
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Speaker 2: which you're seeing play out right now in this war,
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Speaker 2: in terms of technology innovation that helps the American economy.
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Speaker 2: Israel's an economic superpower in the region, and it's a
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Speaker 2: global technology or innovation superpower, certainly on cybersecurity.
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Speaker 3: We get out of the relationship with Israel. So on
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Speaker 3: score after score after score, I.
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Speaker 2: Think you'll be hard pressed to find an alliance that
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Speaker 2: is just in purely transactional terms. If you want to
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Speaker 2: remove the emotion, you want to remove the notion of
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Speaker 2: shared values and shared history, which I believe in those
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Speaker 2: principles do But I just think you just want to thing.
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Speaker 2: But what do we get out of this? Capable allies
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Speaker 2: is the term that dependent On has been using. We
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Speaker 2: want to work with capable allies, and Israel is the
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Speaker 2: top of the list of a capable ally.
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Speaker 3: That's the first thing. The second thing I.
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Speaker 2: Am, I am, I mean this, this incident, in this
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Speaker 2: attack at this synagogue and in West Bloomfield is horrifying
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Speaker 2: in West Boomfield, Michigan.
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Speaker 3: Uh. And I got to say, Hugh, I'm not surprised.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know the details yet.
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Speaker 2: We'll learn more about the person who rammed his car
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Speaker 2: into the synagogue and turned into an active and was
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Speaker 2: an active shooter.
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Speaker 3: We'll learn more about who this person was and what
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Speaker 3: motivated him.
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Speaker 2: But in this environment, when synagogues get attacked, Jewish institutions
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Speaker 2: get attacked, I in a world in which we have
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Speaker 2: normalized language like genocide and apartheid and and calling Jews,
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Speaker 2: accusing Jews of supporting that and accusing Jews of being
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Speaker 2: Nazis in a world in which we've normalized that language,
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Speaker 2: where it's not just extremists that are saying it, but
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Speaker 2: even some mainstream politicians.
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Speaker 3: They're saying it in a world in which we have
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Speaker 3: normalized that language.
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Speaker 2: Are we surprised then that some people who are unsteady
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Speaker 2: hear that and think that is grounds for me to
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Speaker 2: go take out a perpetrator or a sponsor, or a
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Speaker 2: supporter or an apologist or genocide.
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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.
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Speaker 4: And once once that is allowed to kind of rip
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Speaker 4: through society, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, just think about all the Jewish institutions they're exposed,
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Speaker 2: Kosher restaurants, synagogues, I mean just Jewish day schools.
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Speaker 3: You just start going down the list. It's horrified.
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Speaker 1: It's horrifying, and it's not going to end anytime soon
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Speaker 1: until that shunning happens.
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Speaker 5: This.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think we can't accept it, and people
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Speaker 1: have to be thrown out as goals, and they have
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Speaker 1: to be expelled, and faculty have to be fired, even
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Speaker 1: if there's a contract dispute to the extent that that
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Speaker 1: raises the ancient evil, raises the ugly head, it just
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Speaker 1: got to be extirpated, not physically but financially. Now, Dan,
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Speaker 1: I want to move to Jewish philanth On Saturday, some
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Speaker 1: wonderful friends of ours had it to a wonderful event
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Speaker 1: sponsored by a wonderful couple who are Jewish in La
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Speaker 1: And it's a secretarian event. It's got nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with Judaism. It's got nothing to do a secular event's
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Speaker 1: got nothing to do with secretarian purposes. Just wonderful cultural philanthropy.
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Speaker 1: And everywhere I go there's Jewish philanthropy on college campuses
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Speaker 1: and in culture, in the arts. Then I hear from
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Speaker 1: Bethany Mandel and Lahaf Harkov yesterday that it cost twenty
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Speaker 1: five to thirty thousand dollars to go to a Jewish school.
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Speaker 6: This is insane.
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Speaker 1: Catholic schools might cost eight ten grand, maybe the very
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Speaker 1: best ones cost twenty grand in the inner city. What
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Speaker 1: has happened? Why doesn't Jewish philanthropy support Jewish education?
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Speaker 3: So I'm you're knocking on a wide open door with
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Speaker 3: me on this topic.
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Speaker 2: You I gave a whole speech about this a year
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Speaker 2: ago May at at the ninety second Street.
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Speaker 4: Why they have this state of world Lewery address of your.
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Speaker 2: And brets, yeah, and is of a similar vein and
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Speaker 2: it's and basically I argued that coming out of this
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Speaker 2: October seventh War, at least in Diasp for Jewish life,
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Speaker 2: we could begin to experience renaissance in Diasp for Jewish life.
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Speaker 2: But in order to do that, we need to be
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Speaker 2: investing in the only institutions that have a proven track
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Speaker 2: record of maintaining Jewish continuity and Jewish flourishing, which is
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Speaker 2: investing in communal institutions that give young people, young Jews
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Speaker 2: and experience with other young Jews at the formative periods
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Speaker 2: of their lives and strengthen their Jewish identity and their
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Speaker 2: Jewish literacy and their connection to Jewish community. And those
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Speaker 2: are Jewish day schools in Jewish camps.
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Speaker 3: Now, the problem with.
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Speaker 2: Jewish day schools is they're very expensive to run because
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Speaker 2: most Jewish day schools have a dual curriculum.
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Speaker 3: My kids went to a Jewish day school.
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Speaker 2: There's a half the day it's secular studies, English, math, history,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. And then half the day is Judaic studies,
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Speaker 2: studying Torah, studying Talmood, studying Jewish history.
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Speaker 3: And you need different sets of educators to do that.
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Speaker 2: So running a Jewish day school and the complexity of
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Speaker 2: it and the dual curriculum nature of it makes it
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Speaker 2: very expensive to run.
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Speaker 3: That's the challenge.
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Speaker 4: The opportunity is the track record of Jews.
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Speaker 2: Coming out of those places, what I call bubble Jewish
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Speaker 2: bubble experiences, whether there are camps or their day schools,
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Speaker 2: is typically not always, but the most predictable way to
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Speaker 2: get a life of living jewishly, proudly Jewish, wanting to
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Speaker 2: have a Jewish family of your own. I mean, that's
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Speaker 2: that's the way you get real continuity.
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Speaker 4: The good news is, Hugh, we have the resources in
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Speaker 4: the community.
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Speaker 3: There are Jewish success stories.
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Speaker 2: In the diaspora that have generated and created and accumulated
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Speaker 2: extraordinary wealth and the possibility of making the next level,
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Speaker 2: and I mean really next level and throw up a
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Speaker 2: commitment to get the kind of reach that you're describing
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Speaker 2: about the Catholic school system, which I don't think is
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Speaker 2: a perfect.
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Speaker 4: Comp but it's still important. I think it's there.
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Speaker 2: I think the motivation is there after the last couple
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Speaker 2: of years, where people want to dig in more and
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Speaker 2: connect and raise their children and their grandchildren in the
19:17
Speaker 2: real sense, of Jewish.
19:18
Speaker 3: Identity and community.
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Speaker 2: So the demand is there, the questions, well, this is
19:22
Speaker 2: the supply there? Can we provide these experiences at scale
19:26
Speaker 2: in a way that's not prohibitive for the average Jewish family?
19:30
Speaker 2: And I think this is a golden opportunity for Jewish
19:35
Speaker 2: philanthropists that have had extraordinary success in this country to
19:39
Speaker 2: focus in this area. And it's something I'm spending all
19:41
Speaker 2: the time on right now, thinking about and working with
19:44
Speaker 2: others and brainstorming on. And I think there's going to
19:48
Speaker 2: be some interesting projects coming our way addressing exactly what
19:51
Speaker 2: you're talking about.
19:52
Speaker 1: I hope you're successful, because it just occurs to me
19:54
Speaker 1: that you've got to build resilience within the American Jewish
19:57
Speaker 1: community or the American Jewish community will leave for Israel
20:00
Speaker 1: and we will all be worse off. Last question, Dan Seene,
20:03
Speaker 1: are tapping into your love of history. I don't know
20:06
Speaker 1: what to call this war. I think it began on
20:08
Speaker 1: ten to seven. It had an intense battle last June.
20:11
Speaker 1: There was a battle actually back in twenty twenty when
20:13
Speaker 1: we took out ham and A. It's actually been going
20:16
Speaker 1: on since nineteen forty seven. But it's going to come
20:18
Speaker 1: to another cessation in a couple of months. I don't
20:21
Speaker 1: think it's weeks till this next phase. What are you
20:24
Speaker 1: calling this period of time in this conflict with Iran
20:27
Speaker 1: and its proxies.
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Speaker 3: That's a great question.
20:33
Speaker 2: I think the US right now has four principal challenges
20:37
Speaker 2: in the national security in the national security realm, which
20:40
Speaker 2: is which is China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran. Three
20:44
Speaker 2: of those countries have nuclear programs, and a big part
20:48
Speaker 2: of the rest of this decade and beyond will be
20:50
Speaker 2: the US figuring out how to navigate each of those
20:53
Speaker 2: challenges in different parts of the world. Iran is the
20:56
Speaker 2: only one of those four that does not have a
20:58
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons program yet, and we have the opportunity to
21:02
Speaker 2: prevent it. If Iran is added to the list of
21:06
Speaker 2: countries that have that kind of capability in that strategically
21:10
Speaker 2: important region, it will just add to the burden and
21:13
Speaker 2: the pressure that the United.
21:14
Speaker 3: States is under.
21:15
Speaker 2: So I think we're living during a time of global disorder,
21:19
Speaker 2: and this war with the Ran and beyond is an
21:21
Speaker 2: opportunity to limit the reach of the chaos.
21:26
Speaker 1: The risks are enormous, the rewards are hard to measure.
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21:42
Speaker 1: America's big tune?
21:45
Speaker 7: What is Sacon Street got Big gener walcot ullsh.
21:49
Speaker 1: Design Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt with Big
21:52
Speaker 1: Jim Garrity. He is garity and dispensable. He is senior
21:55
Speaker 1: writer at National Review, Washington Post, columnist, author of the
21:59
Speaker 1: Morning Joel. Would you want to subscribe to a National Review,
22:02
Speaker 1: and host of the Three Martini Lunch Jim. We got
22:05
Speaker 1: a lot of serious stuff to cover.
22:07
Speaker 6: But first, but first, Gino Smith.
22:13
Speaker 8: Yeah, everything old is new again.
22:17
Speaker 6: Now I can live with this.
22:18
Speaker 9: This was you know, there was not your enormously great
22:21
Speaker 9: options in free agency. He was good two years ago,
22:25
Speaker 9: you know, it allows a year last year, but the
22:27
Speaker 9: Raiders were terrible all around. So there's probably a sign
22:29
Speaker 9: that you give him a better offensive line. You got
22:32
Speaker 9: Bresee Hall running. They're probably going to draft a wide
22:34
Speaker 9: receiver alongside Garrett Wilson that it'd be some good options.
22:38
Speaker 9: I actually wanted to wish you happy anniversary, Hugh. Happy
22:42
Speaker 9: anniversary to six years ago was March twelfth, twenty twenty.
22:46
Speaker 9: That was kind of the day the world shut down.
22:48
Speaker 9: That was the last day my kids were in school
22:50
Speaker 9: for that calendar year. This was the week back in
22:54
Speaker 9: twenty twenty where at the beginning of the week it
22:56
Speaker 9: was like, huh, there's this weird thing. Ruby Gobert had
22:59
Speaker 9: had tested positive, and you know, the cancel of the
23:02
Speaker 9: NBA games, and then Tom Hanks got it and then
23:05
Speaker 9: we knew it was really serious, and like by the
23:07
Speaker 9: end of the week the world was shutting down. But
23:08
Speaker 9: so I just go this week of March, couple family
23:11
Speaker 9: birthdays are in there. I will always remember that as
23:14
Speaker 9: when things went from normal to suddenly very not normal
23:19
Speaker 9: in a very short span.
23:20
Speaker 1: Yes, we have family birthdays as well on March twelfth,
23:23
Speaker 1: and so we remember it. I also remember the day before,
23:26
Speaker 1: flying to the Beltway and not being able either for
23:29
Speaker 1: the fetching Missshue to come to me or for me
23:31
Speaker 1: to go back to California for ten weeks. And you know,
23:35
Speaker 1: when you're a bachelor and you don't cook, Thank God
23:39
Speaker 1: for takeout pizza, Jim, I wanted to I just got
23:42
Speaker 1: to go back to the jetso because you're Dan senhor
23:44
Speaker 1: was on already and he wanted to move Pat Me
23:46
Speaker 1: quickly too.
23:48
Speaker 6: I just want to know.
23:51
Speaker 1: Jets fans are as bad as Brown fans. It's like
23:53
Speaker 1: you touched the electric outlet. Who do you want to
23:55
Speaker 1: draft it? Number two.
23:59
Speaker 9: Probably are Reese, but they have a bunch of good
24:02
Speaker 9: options at defense. I don't think I don't want to
24:04
Speaker 9: take Ty Simpson that early. Ty Simpson seems like a
24:08
Speaker 9: really swell kid, but you know, there's a long history
24:11
Speaker 9: of overreaching for quarterbacks for teams that you know, I
24:14
Speaker 9: feel like they does fall.
24:15
Speaker 6: I know.
24:16
Speaker 8: Oh yes, this has been a great free agency couple
24:20
Speaker 8: of days for the Jets.
24:21
Speaker 9: I'm thrilled with everybody they've gotten so and look, when
24:24
Speaker 9: you're starting at the bottom, you've got one hundred million
24:26
Speaker 9: in capped space.
24:27
Speaker 8: It's very easy to throw money around.
24:28
Speaker 9: But uh, usually I have a lot to complain about
24:31
Speaker 9: Hugh and this is this is not one of those guys.
24:32
Speaker 1: I don't want them to take Carnal Tait, all right.
24:36
Speaker 1: I just want Carnal Tait on the board for the
24:39
Speaker 1: Browns at six.
24:41
Speaker 8: So he'll be there because your safeties are great.
24:44
Speaker 1: But he's Caleb Down, I want the wide receiver Carneal
24:48
Speaker 1: tait O Caleb Downs is the great safety bit No,
24:52
Speaker 1: not at number sex All right, Jim. My assessment of
24:55
Speaker 1: the war today civilian that I am with zero knowledge
24:59
Speaker 1: of classified information is that we are decisively winning. That
25:04
Speaker 1: we have not yet achieved a decisive win. What do
25:08
Speaker 1: you think.
25:10
Speaker 9: I'm going to largely agree with that. I do think
25:13
Speaker 9: that the interruption of shipping in the straight Upforemus and
25:19
Speaker 9: Persian Gulf is a serious problem. And my guess is
25:22
Speaker 9: all of your listeners and viewers who have filled up
25:25
Speaker 9: their tanks in the last two weeks have noticed this
25:27
Speaker 9: as well. You know, we have the Iranian capabilities been
25:32
Speaker 9: significantly degraded, absolutely, indisputably. The problem is it's not quite
25:37
Speaker 9: like the War and Terror where they used to say
25:39
Speaker 9: we have to be right every time.
25:40
Speaker 8: The bad guys just have to be right once.
25:43
Speaker 9: They basically getting You know, they managed to hit three
25:46
Speaker 9: ships yesterday and a port in Oman, right, that's not
25:51
Speaker 9: a huge amount of missiles getting out, but they are
25:53
Speaker 9: hitting their targets and they do make it a significant
25:56
Speaker 9: amount of fear of ships going into their ships don't
25:59
Speaker 9: want to go into through the straight if ire me
26:00
Speaker 9: use it's twenty one miles wide at its narrowest point.
26:04
Speaker 9: I know the administration tried to create this reinsurance program,
26:07
Speaker 9: but it's the Wall Street Journal reporter eli. It's not
26:09
Speaker 9: just the insurance issue. The crews would really rather not
26:13
Speaker 9: get shot when they're traversing through there. So my suspicion is,
26:17
Speaker 9: until we see those stop, you're not going to see
26:19
Speaker 9: those oil tankers flowing through there. Until you see the
26:22
Speaker 9: oil tankers flowing through there, you're not going to see
26:24
Speaker 9: oil prices to stabilize. I know that they go up
26:27
Speaker 9: a bit and they come back down, you know, so
26:29
Speaker 9: they go up significantly, come back down a little bit.
26:32
Speaker 9: But there's last I saw there like one hundred dollars
26:34
Speaker 9: a barrel. It's it's not good. And so I think
26:37
Speaker 9: that my fear is that this turns into pressure and
26:40
Speaker 9: the administration to declare victory and go home. Now give
26:43
Speaker 9: it a choice between the Iranian regime at the start
26:45
Speaker 9: of this, So the Iranian regime as it is now,
26:48
Speaker 9: I would take what we have now, but I would
26:50
Speaker 9: really rather not leave this regime in place wildly take
26:53
Speaker 9: them a long time to rebuild from all this they
26:56
Speaker 9: will be out for revenge. You know, whether it's this
26:58
Speaker 9: cardboard Ayatola or another one. You know, if they're any
27:01
Speaker 9: in these alat of Provolutionary Guard Corps is still running
27:04
Speaker 9: the country, then we have kicked the can down the
27:06
Speaker 9: road on this and they'll be able to run around
27:07
Speaker 9: and say, look, we took the toughest punch at the
27:10
Speaker 9: Israelis and the Americans could throw at us.
27:12
Speaker 8: We're still standing. We are the true victor. Blah blah blah.
27:15
Speaker 1: Jim, I want your reaction to my reaction to that
27:18
Speaker 1: accurate representation of where we are.
27:21
Speaker 6: I want to.
27:22
Speaker 1: Shake people and say, do you not know if you're
27:24
Speaker 1: my age, what your parents went through? Do you not
27:27
Speaker 1: know if you're Jim's age your grandparents, or if your
27:30
Speaker 1: grandkid's age or your children's say, do you not know
27:33
Speaker 1: what your great grandparents went through? This is not the
27:36
Speaker 1: Battle of the Atlantic. I paid five point fifty for
27:38
Speaker 1: gasoline this week. By the way, it was six fifty
27:41
Speaker 1: in California in twenty twenty two during the Biden inflation.
27:44
Speaker 1: It's five fifty this week in California. This is not
27:47
Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic. We need to defeat this
27:51
Speaker 1: enemy decisively we can't let them emerge from this wreckage
27:57
Speaker 1: saying we want I don't think that's actual allowable. What's
28:02
Speaker 1: your reaction in my reaction.
28:06
Speaker 8: My reaction to your action. I like you to react
28:08
Speaker 8: to my reaction to your reactions. No, I largely agree
28:12
Speaker 8: with what you said there, and it is good to
28:14
Speaker 8: keep perspective.
28:16
Speaker 9: That said, every time, I every morning when I write
28:18
Speaker 9: the morning, Joel, I'm checking Triple A and then I
28:20
Speaker 9: check the Energy Information Administration.
28:22
Speaker 8: Triple A opens updates it's national.
28:24
Speaker 9: Average every day. The Energy Information Administration updates it once
28:27
Speaker 9: a week. It's going up a couple cents every day,
28:30
Speaker 9: about a quarter to fifty cents a week. That's you
28:33
Speaker 9: know that people are going to feel that because not
28:35
Speaker 9: only is it, you know, putting gas into your tank,
28:38
Speaker 9: everything you buy gets transported by We've been through this
28:41
Speaker 9: with the Biden administration. We've been through this in past times.
28:43
Speaker 9: This is not the first time we've seen gas prices spike,
28:46
Speaker 9: but we've seen the secondary economic effects of this. I
28:49
Speaker 9: know you asked about the war and the midterm elections
28:52
Speaker 9: are ways away, but the last jobs report was really
28:55
Speaker 9: not great. The downward revisions were really not great. I
28:58
Speaker 9: don't think that the country is in a particular good
29:00
Speaker 9: mood right now. That's not great for Republicans. And so
29:04
Speaker 9: now we've got, you know, between now and November, I think,
29:07
Speaker 9: because of the Iran war, we inevitably are going to
29:09
Speaker 9: have like two to three months minimum of bad economic
29:13
Speaker 9: numbers and a bad economic mood. So the window of
29:15
Speaker 9: opportunity for the people to feel good about the economy
29:18
Speaker 9: heading into the fall elections is getting smaller and smaller.
29:22
Speaker 9: And you know, I am worried that the political pressure
29:26
Speaker 9: to make this all go away is going to start
29:29
Speaker 9: really weighing on the president and the decision makers and
29:31
Speaker 9: the administration.
29:32
Speaker 1: You might be right.
29:33
Speaker 6: I hope you're wrong. I'd rather lose the midterms and
29:36
Speaker 6: win the war.
29:37
Speaker 1: Decisively than not win the war decisively and ake out,
29:43
Speaker 1: you know, one vote margin in the Senate and not
29:46
Speaker 1: slaughter and we're going to lose the House. I mean,
29:49
Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna lose the House. But Jim Garrity
29:51
Speaker 1: from National View, always blunt and on point.
29:55
Speaker 6: Thank you, Jim.
29:56
Speaker 1: Follow them at Jim Garrity, get the Morning Jumped from
29:59
Speaker 1: National Review, read in the Washington Post, and come right
30:01
Speaker 1: back to the huge show on the Shalem.
30:04
Speaker 6: News Morning Glory and even Grace in America. I'm joined
30:12
Speaker 6: by Eleana Y.
30:13
Speaker 1: Johnson, editor in chief of the Washington Free Beacon, participant
30:17
Speaker 1: in the commentary podcast where I hear her most mornings. Ellianna,
30:22
Speaker 1: I think we are winning decisively, but we have not
30:24
Speaker 1: yet decisively won. What do you think.
30:29
Speaker 6: I think that's right, Hugh.
30:30
Speaker 10: I think in terms of achieving our military objectives, it
30:34
Speaker 10: would be hard to argue that the US and Israel
30:38
Speaker 10: are not well on the way so far. This has
30:42
Speaker 10: been an extraordinary success by the American Armed Forces and
30:47
Speaker 10: the IDF. What's astonishing, And I have the New York
30:50
Speaker 10: Times homepage in front of me. That's just one example.
30:53
Speaker 10: Is that you'd be hard pressed to find coverage of
30:57
Speaker 10: the military achievements in the middlelitary gains that we're making
31:01
Speaker 10: in the press. Instead, you know, we have fallout rattles
31:05
Speaker 10: and international order already understrained. And how heg Seth came
31:11
Speaker 10: to see moral purpose in war as a weakness, and
31:14
Speaker 10: we're getting fever pitch coverage of the failures.
31:21
Speaker 6: So I do think it's.
31:22
Speaker 10: Hard for the average consumer of news of this war
31:27
Speaker 10: to understand the success that's being achieved on the battlefield.
31:30
Speaker 1: Eleana, how do you think this media, the media that
31:34
Speaker 1: we have, not the media that we wish we had,
31:37
Speaker 1: but the media that we have, legacy media, how would
31:39
Speaker 1: they have covered Pearl Harbor?
31:43
Speaker 10: Well, Hugh, I think it would help that FDR was
31:46
Speaker 10: a Democrat, so they might have covered it a bit
31:50
Speaker 10: more positively. And I think it may have helped that
31:56
Speaker 10: Pearl Harbor was an attack on the homeland, because September eleventh,
32:01
Speaker 10: you know, was covered a little bit differently than this
32:04
Speaker 10: is being covered. But I think there was a real
32:06
Speaker 10: change in the American media around Trump, where the media
32:10
Speaker 10: dropped all pretense of objectivity. And that's in part because
32:14
Speaker 10: Trump was so open in his disdain for an attacks
32:17
Speaker 10: on the press. And that's because we as conservatives like
32:21
Speaker 10: nothing more than to point out their biases. And Trump
32:24
Speaker 10: more than any other president, much as he loves to
32:26
Speaker 10: talk to the press and deal with the press, and
32:28
Speaker 10: it's the most transparent president we've ever had, he understood
32:32
Speaker 10: that and capitalized on used as a message and talk
32:35
Speaker 10: about media bias and is always pointing out the pervasive
32:39
Speaker 10: bias in the legacy media. So you know, they would
32:44
Speaker 10: have been of course more negative than they were. But
32:46
Speaker 10: there's just nothing like a war not only waged by
32:50
Speaker 10: President Trump but also by Bibi and Israel, to whom
32:55
Speaker 10: the American news media is just incredibly hostile.
32:59
Speaker 1: Give the steaks, and the stakes are so high. If
33:02
Speaker 1: Iraan goes from black hat to white hat, the world
33:05
Speaker 1: is so immeasurably better off, not just the region but
33:09
Speaker 1: the world. If they go from China ally to American ally,
33:13
Speaker 1: the world shifts on its axis for the first time
33:16
Speaker 1: in forty seven years. But given the stakes, aren't we
33:20
Speaker 1: entitled to a little objectivity. I know, the Straits of
33:22
Speaker 1: Horn moveds I paid five and a half dollars a
33:24
Speaker 1: gallon of gas. That's almost as high as it was
33:26
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two in California when it got the
33:28
Speaker 1: six and a half dollars a gallon. But it's not
33:32
Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic when Great Britain was facing starvation.
33:36
Speaker 6: It's not that.
33:37
Speaker 1: Does anyone in the media have any memory or know
33:40
Speaker 1: any history at all because we're crushing it.
33:45
Speaker 10: Well, there's a couple of things you were calling twenty
33:48
Speaker 10: twenty two. What we got is inflation is transitory, not
33:51
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, we've got a real problem gas prices.
33:54
Speaker 6: They're really high.
33:55
Speaker 10: But I do think, you know, I'm about the age
33:57
Speaker 10: of probably you know, many reporters out there and so
34:01
Speaker 10: many people. We talked about this on the podcast this morning.
34:04
Speaker 10: In my generation, you know, the only military battles and
34:08
Speaker 10: the wars that we've seen the country engaged in, or
34:12
Speaker 10: that those who served in the armed forces in my
34:15
Speaker 10: generation participated in, were the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
34:19
Speaker 10: That's their experience with wars, and I think that's shaped
34:22
Speaker 10: the outlook of many in my generation and those younger
34:26
Speaker 10: than I am. And so you mentioned Pearl Harbor. Young
34:31
Speaker 10: people don't have a lot of experience. They have not
34:35
Speaker 10: witnessed unless they've read history, which is no longer really
34:37
Speaker 10: taught in our schools or in our colleges and university
34:41
Speaker 10: America on the world stage victorious in battle, or you know,
34:46
Speaker 10: seen America victorious at war, or understood the importance of America,
34:53
Speaker 10: you know, militarily dominant as a force for good on
34:57
Speaker 10: the world stage.
34:58
Speaker 6: And in that sense, you I think, I think this war.
35:01
Speaker 10: Or this military operation is important because it could reshape
35:05
Speaker 10: the Maduro operation as well. The way that generations see
35:10
Speaker 10: how the militaries use the uses to which it can
35:13
Speaker 10: be put, and you know, our engagement on the world's stage.
35:15
Speaker 1: I agree, and I especially hope it comes through that
35:19
Speaker 1: the failure of two thousand and three in Iraq was
35:21
Speaker 1: it intel failure. There were no weapons of mass destruction.
35:24
Speaker 1: Everybody in the free world believed that there were. Since then,
35:27
Speaker 1: we've seen the Israeli pager and beeper thing. Who knows
35:30
Speaker 1: what's going on inside of Iran right now? Like Bletchley,
35:34
Speaker 1: we're not going to find out until after this war
35:36
Speaker 1: is over by some period of time.
35:38
Speaker 6: Do you think we might be able.
35:40
Speaker 1: To develop a little strategic patients in Generation Alpha and
35:45
Speaker 1: Generation Z?
35:49
Speaker 10: You know, I think there will be incredible books written
35:51
Speaker 10: about this already. Even you know, we're seeing though these
35:55
Speaker 10: besiege you know, neighborhood targets and they're being targeted by throne,
36:00
Speaker 10: which is something that we previously, I think only could
36:04
Speaker 10: have done with ground troops. So we're seeing the ability
36:08
Speaker 10: of the US and it's Israel that targeted these besieged
36:11
Speaker 10: militias neighborhood depots from the air. We're seeing things done
36:16
Speaker 10: by air that we wouldn't have been able to do previously.
36:19
Speaker 10: And I think there are two open questions for the
36:21
Speaker 10: sort of opening phase of this war. The first is,
36:24
Speaker 10: and we saw the Energy Secretary allude to this, will
36:28
Speaker 10: the US succeed in being able to escort tankers through
36:31
Speaker 10: the Persian Gulf? It looks like they want to do that,
36:34
Speaker 10: and they haven't been or sorry in the Strait of
36:36
Speaker 10: Hormuz and sort of open that traffic again it's effectively
36:41
Speaker 10: closed right now. And the second is, will the President
36:44
Speaker 10: sign off on some kind of special forces operation to
36:47
Speaker 10: extract the nuclear material from some of these sites. That's
36:50
Speaker 10: sort of what I'm watching, and I think those things
36:52
Speaker 10: could be game changers. And what I'm thinking of is
36:54
Speaker 10: phase one.
36:55
Speaker 6: I hope you're right.
36:56
Speaker 1: I'm expecting something that I did not expect because the
37:00
Speaker 1: Israelis have hinted at stuff that is going to make
37:03
Speaker 1: our minds explode with Wow, they can do that, and
37:07
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.
37:08
Speaker 6: We're doing it with them.
37:09
Speaker 1: Eleana Y Johnson of the Washington Free Beacon follow on
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Speaker 1: Exit Eleana Y Johnson. Listen to her on the commentary
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Speaker 1: podcast Come right back to the Hugwit Shift.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back, America.
37:21
Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, Vic Mattis is the weekend editor and
37:24
Speaker 1: the Culture and Arts editor at the Washington Free Beacon.
37:27
Speaker 1: More importantly, at least more readily recognizable as the co
37:31
Speaker 1: host of the Getting Hammered podcast. I think by most
37:34
Speaker 1: of my audience a new addition of Getting Hammered is
37:37
Speaker 1: out there where it was revealed that all of the
37:39
Speaker 1: Mattis family suffered from scolopendrophobia.
37:43
Speaker 6: Vic did you know that?
37:45
Speaker 1: No?
37:46
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, but that is true.
37:48
Speaker 11: That is the word school of pendra gigantia. That is
37:51
Speaker 11: the one that I mentioned on the show. My son
37:54
Speaker 11: found in Jamaica, and that was big, bright red and orange.
37:58
Speaker 11: It can kill rhode hue and frogs.
38:01
Speaker 6: So beware. Look.
38:03
Speaker 12: Look, I too suffer from scolopendrophobia. I've just never had
38:07
Speaker 12: to deal with it, and so I found it very
38:10
Speaker 12: amusing that that particular. What's the genus in the species?
38:16
Speaker 1: How do you say?
38:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, school of gigantia. That is the giant centipede.
38:22
Speaker 1: All right, So that giant centipede met its end underneath
38:25
Speaker 1: the cement cinderblock? Am I correct?
38:29
Speaker 6: That is correct?
38:29
Speaker 11: They initially tried to my son and a buddy tried
38:32
Speaker 11: to decapitate it using you know, a can of bug spray.
38:36
Speaker 11: That didn't really work out too well. So you know,
38:39
Speaker 11: second time was the charm. Shall I say, what about
38:41
Speaker 11: the old here? Crawned this piece of paper and I'll
38:44
Speaker 11: put you outside approach.
38:47
Speaker 6: You know what it was outside?
38:48
Speaker 13: You know?
38:49
Speaker 11: I mean there are a lot of animals where we say,
38:51
Speaker 11: you know, like mice, for example, you're outside, we're inside.
38:53
Speaker 6: We get to mind our own business unless you cross
38:55
Speaker 6: that threshold.
38:57
Speaker 11: Centipedes I don't think have any business anywhere, so they
39:00
Speaker 11: should just be where wherever they are.
39:01
Speaker 1: They are obviously that we believe in evolutionary biology here
39:04
Speaker 1: at the New Yorks, and they came from somewhere to
39:06
Speaker 1: do something and they survived for some reason.
39:09
Speaker 6: I just hope you didn't upset the eco wings of
39:12
Speaker 6: the butterfly stuff.
39:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
39:15
Speaker 6: No, that's a good point. We'll take our chance though.
39:17
Speaker 6: Could be a tidal wave. I'm just saying that's what happened.
39:21
Speaker 6: But it made me think. I sent my daughter off
39:24
Speaker 6: to Ukraine when she was thirteen on a youth mission.
39:28
Speaker 6: She went back at fourteen.
39:29
Speaker 1: Both times, I had no idea what I was doing
39:32
Speaker 1: and just trusted in God and the leaders of the
39:35
Speaker 1: group that went with her. What do you think about
39:38
Speaker 1: youth missions.
39:41
Speaker 11: It's something that when I was young, I probably would
39:43
Speaker 11: not have done because I would have been focused on
39:45
Speaker 11: going somewhere to have a good time. And that was
39:48
Speaker 11: certainly within my son's right, and a lot of kids
39:50
Speaker 11: obviously choose to do that. They work hard, they study
39:52
Speaker 11: all year great and you hear about it every time
39:56
Speaker 11: you and I you go to church. They always talk
39:57
Speaker 11: about raising funds for these youth missions. And then you
40:00
Speaker 11: hear about a firsthand. In the case with you, your
40:04
Speaker 11: daughter going to Ukraine, and I didn't.
40:07
Speaker 6: I don't do that with your.
40:09
Speaker 11: Daughter, I should say yes, And your daughter's case, I
40:12
Speaker 11: should say And in mine with my it was my
40:14
Speaker 11: son and it was through Mustard Seed and it was
40:16
Speaker 11: a place called Blessed Assurance. And it's absolutely, you know, heartbreaking.
40:23
Speaker 11: These kids who are abandoned, they have no fathers, they
40:27
Speaker 11: have severe disabilities, and somebody has to take care of them.
40:30
Speaker 11: And when they were asked, the students going over there,
40:34
Speaker 11: what do we need to do, they were told largely
40:38
Speaker 11: just being present with them, you know, so they're not
40:40
Speaker 11: always alone, was enough to make their day, make them happy.
40:43
Speaker 6: It's something that they look forward to every year, these visits,
40:48
Speaker 6: and so it does. It's meaningful. And even though my
40:50
Speaker 6: son did it.
40:51
Speaker 11: After he applied to colleges, so nobody will ever know
40:55
Speaker 11: that he just did this because he wanted to do it.
40:58
Speaker 11: It's for a very good cause and it's something that
41:01
Speaker 11: I think he will carry with him in different causes
41:03
Speaker 11: in the future.
41:04
Speaker 1: You ought to be very proud of yourself or of
41:06
Speaker 1: your son, and of your wife for in gendering a.
41:10
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of fearlessness. But a friend of mine,
41:14
Speaker 1: Bad McGuire, he's now Father Adad McGuire. Any ministers in
41:17
Speaker 1: the Phoenix diocese, now he might be mon Senior McGuire.
41:21
Speaker 1: Now I have no idea, but I haven't seen him
41:23
Speaker 1: in ten years, but he did the first many years
41:25
Speaker 1: of his vocation in Jamaica before coming back to Phoenix
41:30
Speaker 1: to be a parish priest. And Jamaica people think of
41:34
Speaker 1: as sandals, resorts and hurricane drinks, right, it's not. It's
41:38
Speaker 1: an impoverished island.
41:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very poor. I mean it's not Haiti poor,
41:43
Speaker 6: but it is very poor and there's a very high
41:45
Speaker 6: crime level. As some people know.
41:48
Speaker 11: We think about the tourist destinations as you mentioned, such
41:52
Speaker 11: as in Negrill in Montego Bay, but.
41:55
Speaker 6: A lot of the island it's very poor. And again
42:00
Speaker 6: we're talking about a lot of kids.
42:02
Speaker 11: This is according to the Jamaicans that they spoke to,
42:04
Speaker 11: So this is anecdotal where they said, you know, a
42:07
Speaker 11: lot of children, not a lot of fathers around and
42:10
Speaker 11: it's an unfortunate situation and they need help, even you know,
42:14
Speaker 11: in this day and age. And they just had a
42:15
Speaker 11: terrible hurricane that went through right through that particular facility,
42:20
Speaker 11: so they didn't even have running water.
42:21
Speaker 6: They had to truck in the water every day. But yeah,
42:25
Speaker 6: it's right there. It's not very far from from you know,
42:28
Speaker 6: our shores.
42:29
Speaker 11: What is Mustard Seed, Yeah, so that is a Christian
42:34
Speaker 11: mission organization and they have different locations in a number
42:39
Speaker 11: of places where they are out there helping those who.
42:44
Speaker 6: Are unable to help themselves. And we're talking about.
42:47
Speaker 11: The poorest of the poor and people with and particularly
42:49
Speaker 11: children with severe disabilities. And they invite mission groups from
42:55
Speaker 11: the United States to go over there and spend time
42:58
Speaker 11: and build and play and feed feed those who can't
43:02
Speaker 11: even feed themselves. I mean, they have issues whether it
43:05
Speaker 11: be muscular dystrophy or a combination of Down syndrome and autism.
43:09
Speaker 11: And so one of the big things they do, for example,
43:11
Speaker 11: is a diaper drive because and it's not just for babies,
43:14
Speaker 11: because a lot of them are our childer children who
43:17
Speaker 11: still have these disabilities.
43:19
Speaker 6: And so again it's just it's easy to think about,
43:23
Speaker 6: and you send.
43:23
Speaker 11: Money, we donate places. I'm like this, but being there
43:27
Speaker 11: in person, I think it changes a lot of your perspective.
43:30
Speaker 11: Jeans too, We've had a similar experience, as you know,
43:32
Speaker 11: when he wrote that book about Mother Teresa and he
43:37
Speaker 11: went to India and had changed his life.
43:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of ursho used to do that and
43:42
Speaker 1: or they still do it. And I used to hear
43:43
Speaker 1: about that from the famous priest. But now I want
43:45
Speaker 1: to go to the war Biota. We had two minutes left.
43:47
Speaker 1: They got to ask what's wrong with American media? I mean,
43:50
Speaker 1: we're winning this thing decisively, but we have not yet
43:52
Speaker 1: decisively won that gas has gone up a buck of
43:57
Speaker 1: barrel or a bucket gallon at the pump. It's not
44:00
Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic with Great Britain facing starvation.
44:03
Speaker 6: What in the world is wrong with the media?
44:06
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, this isn't exactly. This isn't the Battle of
44:08
Speaker 11: Jutland going on over here. There's obviously a general hatred
44:14
Speaker 11: or a distaste for the president and the current administration,
44:18
Speaker 11: and so every bit of bad news. And you see
44:20
Speaker 11: this on the front pages of so many papers now
44:24
Speaker 11: and even you know, I get the Wall Street Journal,
44:26
Speaker 11: and the news is very different from the editorial side,
44:28
Speaker 11: as you know, and the news side. It's just all
44:31
Speaker 11: bad news one day after another. I don't remember seeing
44:34
Speaker 11: a big picture of Iranian celebrating in the street after Iotola.
44:37
Speaker 6: Kahmane was killed, but you do see, you know, it
44:41
Speaker 6: was a big picture.
44:42
Speaker 11: It was either in today or yesterday's edition, after the
44:44
Speaker 11: announcement of Kahmane's son being named the next Ayatola. It
44:50
Speaker 11: just gives you the impression that we're dealing with Vietnam
44:53
Speaker 11: here and a debacle. What in fact, this thing is
44:55
Speaker 11: not even two weeks old. Yet there's a lot of
44:57
Speaker 11: progress that has been made with the President said that
45:00
Speaker 11: is true. We've basically wiped out the Navy, We're gaining
45:02
Speaker 11: air superiority, the number of drone attacks being launched against
45:07
Speaker 11: you know, the United States and its allies is diminishing
45:11
Speaker 11: and we have to accept that that is all positive news.
45:14
Speaker 11: And you're you know, it's not going to happen overnight,
45:18
Speaker 11: and the regular military eventually is going to have to
45:22
Speaker 11: turn against the IRGC and the besiege.
45:25
Speaker 6: But again, it's going to take time, and we just
45:28
Speaker 6: have to do everything that we can to facilitate that.
45:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I would like to see major media
45:34
Speaker 1: outlets say we are in favor of the Iranian people
45:36
Speaker 1: being free and of the United States and Israel winning
45:39
Speaker 1: this war, that the UAE and the other Guelph allies
45:42
Speaker 1: will not be attacked. It's not that hard, but it's
45:46
Speaker 1: impossible for legacy media to say Vic Matis good to
45:49
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45:52
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45:55
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45:58
Speaker 1: Hugh Hewits.
46:01
Speaker 6: Welcome Back America.
46:02
Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewlett, joined now by Josh Crosshauer, editor in
46:05
Speaker 1: chief of Jewish Insider. Josh, I have not said much
46:09
Speaker 1: about the attack on the synagogue in West Boomfield, Michigan
46:12
Speaker 1: this morning, because I'm always leary at first reports. What's
46:17
Speaker 1: your understanding of what happened in the situation to now
46:20
Speaker 1: at this moment.
46:22
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, this is what every Jewish family, Jewish parent
46:27
Speaker 14: worries about when they when they send their kids off
46:29
Speaker 14: to preschool the synagogue, as I understand, how's a large preschool,
46:33
Speaker 14: and there were kids in the building where the attack
46:35
Speaker 14: took place. But this looks like a you know, the
46:38
Speaker 14: classic terrorist attack with a car driving through the synagogue door.
46:43
Speaker 14: The guy had guns, explosives, He wanted to cause as
46:46
Speaker 14: much mayhem and slaughter as possible. And thankfully and got
46:52
Speaker 14: a real blessing that there was a security guard who
46:54
Speaker 14: was involved in a lot of training as many leaders
46:57
Speaker 14: and Jewish institutions are involved in these days, and was
47:00
Speaker 14: prepared and was able to to kill the.
47:05
Speaker 13: Terrorist.
47:06
Speaker 14: It's it's a miracle that that there was no further
47:09
Speaker 14: injury other than to the security guard and and and
47:11
Speaker 14: everyone remained safe.
47:13
Speaker 13: But this was making no mistake. This looks like a
47:17
Speaker 13: terrorist attack.
47:18
Speaker 14: And uh, you know that this is what a lot
47:21
Speaker 14: of Jews across the country are worried about on a
47:24
Speaker 14: daily basis.
47:25
Speaker 13: That you can see the threat level is at all
47:27
Speaker 13: time highs.
47:28
Speaker 14: You see the actual uh documented cases of anti Semitism
47:33
Speaker 14: or at historical historical highs right now. And you see
47:35
Speaker 14: the rhetoric on the far left and the far right
47:38
Speaker 14: that the tolerating a degree of hate and anti Semitism
47:40
Speaker 14: that I've never seen before in my lifetime. So this
47:43
Speaker 14: is something that a lot of folks have been fearful about.
47:46
Speaker 14: But there's also a lot of preparation within the Jewish
47:49
Speaker 14: community and within Jewish institutions that actually do these types
47:52
Speaker 14: of you know, active shooter drills to prepare what for
47:55
Speaker 14: what happens when you do have a terrorists that is
47:58
Speaker 14: desperate to intending to do damage to your institution. And
48:03
Speaker 14: they were prepared, and it looks like they were able
48:05
Speaker 14: to forestall what could have been a much worse terrorist attack.
48:08
Speaker 1: Now, josh, I understand why police do not tell us
48:11
Speaker 1: much about the identity of the terrorists for some time.
48:14
Speaker 1: They have to check social media accounts, they've got to
48:17
Speaker 1: go back to the home or the apartment at the house,
48:19
Speaker 1: the community, make sure there aren't explosives there, variety of things.
48:23
Speaker 1: But I am a big believer in flooding the zone
48:27
Speaker 1: with information about the would be killer as soon as
48:31
Speaker 1: possible in order to profile for other people in other
48:35
Speaker 1: communities who might be at risk of self radicalizing.
48:39
Speaker 6: Do you agree that or disagree with that?
48:43
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, I think the more information the better.
48:47
Speaker 14: It helps us understand the motivation and the kind of
48:49
Speaker 14: threat that these institutions are dealing with on a daily basis.
48:55
Speaker 1: All right, now, I want to switch to Lebanon. In
48:57
Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, Hesbalia has fired more than
49:00
Speaker 1: two hundred missiles in rockets at Israel. About half of
49:04
Speaker 1: them did not make it out of Lebanon, but half
49:06
Speaker 1: of them did. To my knowledge, there are no deaths,
49:10
Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure because Israeli media is
49:13
Speaker 1: mostly in Hebrew, not in English. I think this means
49:17
Speaker 1: there's going to be a ground invasion in Lebanon. What
49:19
Speaker 1: do you think?
49:21
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, look, that's a possibility. It's being discussed
49:24
Speaker 14: in the Israeli press. You know, clearly Husble was badly,
49:28
Speaker 14: badly weakend during the Israel's previous operations in Lebanon after
49:34
Speaker 14: a cover seventh, but there's still a presence and they
49:38
Speaker 14: clearly kind of unleashed their their missile large old in
49:41
Speaker 14: the last twenty four to forty eight hours, which is
49:45
Speaker 14: in Israel has been very, very aggressive in mounting operations
49:48
Speaker 14: in Beyroot and other places within southern Lebanon to neutralize
49:52
Speaker 14: their capability. So HUSBL is still very much a threat.
49:56
Speaker 14: It sounds like they're kind of throwing the kitchen's sake
49:58
Speaker 14: of a wounded and graded husbook still is a threat,
50:01
Speaker 14: and they're trying to, uh, you know, unload. I guess
50:04
Speaker 14: they're their missile missile barrage, but uh, you know, I
50:08
Speaker 14: think it's more of a last gasp from a wounded
50:10
Speaker 14: terrorist organization backed by Iran, of course, than a sign.
50:14
Speaker 13: Of it their real real power.
50:15
Speaker 14: I mean, they hope hopefully by the end of this conflict,
50:18
Speaker 14: by the end of these military operations.
50:20
Speaker 13: Uh, that has below A no longer be capable of on.
50:24
Speaker 1: Some of the accounts, your correspondent, Uh, how about hard
50:29
Speaker 1: cop will be on with us next hour and maybe
50:32
Speaker 1: I would get a chance to ask current But I
50:34
Speaker 1: want to ask you for covering Hebrew language media and
50:36
Speaker 1: Jewish media coming out of an English language media coming
50:39
Speaker 1: out of Israel. Do you think Net and Yahoo is
50:44
Speaker 1: messaging that we're at the end of the beginning or
50:46
Speaker 1: we're at the beginning of the end. I think it's
50:48
Speaker 1: the former, but I'm I'm not skilled and then reading BB.
50:54
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, if there's any I mean, I think the US,
50:57
Speaker 14: if you look at the overall picture, the alliance between
51:00
Speaker 14: the US and Israel and the coordination has been been
51:03
Speaker 14: quite strong.
51:04
Speaker 3: You know.
51:04
Speaker 13: I think the one difference has been that who has rhetorically.
51:09
Speaker 14: At least UH talked about you know that since the
51:12
Speaker 14: war began, talked about regime changed, and they certainly hope
51:17
Speaker 14: to oust the current regime. That that has not necessarily
51:23
Speaker 14: been the US stated goal. And and and I think
51:25
Speaker 14: that's one one area that is going to kind of
51:30
Speaker 14: be As far as the timeline you're talking about, Hugh,
51:32
Speaker 14: I think that's going to dictate the timeline. Look, and
51:36
Speaker 14: you're right about has not set artificial timetables. He has,
51:40
Speaker 14: he has prepared Israel and the Israeli public has prepared
51:43
Speaker 14: for all these you know, going to the bomb shelters
51:45
Speaker 14: on on a regular basis every day since the war
51:47
Speaker 14: began for a longer h conflict were already passed the
51:51
Speaker 14: twelve days of the of the war last year. And
51:54
Speaker 14: I think with this, you know, based on Trump's comments,
51:56
Speaker 14: based on Natiyahu's comments today This certainly could go on
51:59
Speaker 14: for for some thought, for at least a few or
52:01
Speaker 14: four weeks, if not longer.
52:02
Speaker 1: A last story to note that is covering up on
52:05
Speaker 1: x Apparently Iranian civilians are sending video to the IDF
52:10
Speaker 1: in the US of where the besiege and the IRGC
52:13
Speaker 1: have set up checkpoints. What's that. It's like the French resistance.
52:17
Speaker 1: It's like we're watching a World War two movie. We
52:20
Speaker 1: want to free that people will be Iran because they
52:22
Speaker 1: want to be free.
52:24
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the mesiege are the police who's slaughter
52:27
Speaker 14: played around slaughtering the tens of thousands of the protesters
52:32
Speaker 14: this year. And it does seem like there's some intel,
52:35
Speaker 14: at least some reporting I've seen that suggest that some
52:37
Speaker 14: of the targets in the last twenty four hours I've
52:39
Speaker 14: been against these very.
52:41
Speaker 13: Police stations, these besieged police headquarters.
52:43
Speaker 14: So I haven't heard a whole lot more other than that,
52:46
Speaker 14: but it certainly is a positive indicator that they're targeting
52:49
Speaker 14: effectively some of the worst elements of this Iradian regime.
52:52
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53:58
Speaker 1: Trump's first term. He's now the chairman of the Wireless
54:02
Speaker 1: Association in Washington, d c CTIA. Chairman Pie welcome back
54:07
Speaker 1: before we go to wireless and all the great things
54:10
Speaker 1: that are happening there and there are I just got
54:12
Speaker 1: to ask it resigning Kelsey, really, isn't it a little
54:16
Speaker 1: bit old?
54:16
Speaker 6: Isn't he about as old as I am?
54:19
Speaker 3: Yeah?
54:19
Speaker 15: You know, it's a little bit of the old, little
54:21
Speaker 15: bit of the new bringing you back. Travis Kelsey just
54:23
Speaker 15: signed Kenneth Walker. Hopefully Mahomes gets back into the swing
54:26
Speaker 15: of things soon enough, so we'll see. But it was
54:29
Speaker 15: definitely a disappointing season for the Chief's Kingdom, and I
54:32
Speaker 15: know that you and millions of Americans are really sympathetic
54:35
Speaker 15: to the Chiefs fan base for the tough season we
54:37
Speaker 15: had and are hoping for better things in the year
54:39
Speaker 15: to come.
54:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Chairman, as a Browns fan, I wish you
54:42
Speaker 1: nothing but secondary luck. Well, let's go to wireless, and
54:46
Speaker 1: one of my great sponsors is Consumer Cellular, and I
54:48
Speaker 1: got to make people make sure people understand this is
54:51
Speaker 1: not them, They are not sponsoring this. I wanted to
54:53
Speaker 1: talk to Chairman Pie because the cost of wireless is
54:56
Speaker 1: coming down all across the United States, even as gas
54:59
Speaker 1: goes up.
55:00
Speaker 6: During the war.
55:01
Speaker 1: Why is that, mister Chairman, It's all.
55:05
Speaker 15: About supply and demand where there's a lot of competition,
55:07
Speaker 15: and the wireless industry. In fact, when it comes to
55:10
Speaker 15: affordability for consumers, wireless is leading the way. If you
55:13
Speaker 15: look at where consumers are when they're on the go
55:16
Speaker 15: mobile plans, cell phone plans are down eight percent from
55:20
Speaker 15: their highs during the Biden administration. That's because wireless companies
55:23
Speaker 15: have been buying spectrum, spending thirty billion dollars on average
55:27
Speaker 15: each year to build wireless infrastructure, and that results in better, faster,
55:31
Speaker 15: cheaper cell phone plans for American consumers and even at home. Now,
55:35
Speaker 15: the big story over the last couple of years is
55:37
Speaker 15: that wireless companies have been injecting competition into a marketplace
55:42
Speaker 15: that had long been dominated by cable companies, among others,
55:45
Speaker 15: who really didn't face that much competition. And so there
55:48
Speaker 15: over the last three years, ninety nine percent of subscribers
55:52
Speaker 15: who are applying for broadband for the first time are
55:54
Speaker 15: choosing fixed wireless provided by some of our members. So
55:57
Speaker 15: it's simply a part of the the basic economic equation.
56:02
Speaker 15: When you put spectrum in place, if you allow companies
56:04
Speaker 15: to ability infrastructure, great things are going to happen for
56:07
Speaker 15: the American consumer. And that's essentially the story when it
56:09
Speaker 15: comes to affordability.
56:11
Speaker 1: Chairman Pie, You're ownership of Chicago lostical grad so you
56:14
Speaker 1: are an economic theorist. You get your law with economic
56:19
Speaker 1: theory baked into it. This was going to happen once
56:23
Speaker 1: we opened up the marketplace. Same thing happened after AT
56:25
Speaker 1: and T was broken up. How long did the benefits
56:28
Speaker 1: continue to flow downhill from the expansion of competition and wireless.
56:34
Speaker 15: It's literally endless. In fact, the best marker we can
56:37
Speaker 15: have of that is that when the SEC lost auction
56:40
Speaker 15: authority a few years ago, back in twenty twenty three
56:42
Speaker 15: during the previous administration, the spectrum pipeline essentially stopped. There
56:46
Speaker 15: was no more spectrum coming into the marketplace. Thanks to
56:49
Speaker 15: the One Big Beautiful Bill last year and President Trump's
56:52
Speaker 15: repeated statements that he wanted to have that spectrum auction
56:55
Speaker 15: authority re established and to get the SEC auctioning spectrum again,
56:59
Speaker 15: now the figots have been opened, Chairman Cars doing a
57:02
Speaker 15: great job at the SEC taking that authority and running
57:05
Speaker 15: with it or having spectrum auctions again. So it really
57:07
Speaker 15: makes a big difference. And the other critical point view
57:10
Speaker 15: is that Unlike some in the communications ecosystem, when it
57:14
Speaker 15: comes to spectrum, wireless companies are actually paying for the
57:17
Speaker 15: right to use that public resource. That money goes into
57:19
Speaker 15: the treasury. And so the auction program of the SEC,
57:22
Speaker 15: thanks to wireless companies, has yielded hundreds of billions of
57:25
Speaker 15: dollars for the American taxpayer, in addition to the competitive
57:28
Speaker 15: benefits that flow to the American consumer year over year.
57:31
Speaker 15: And so one way or the other, the American citizen,
57:34
Speaker 15: both as taxpayer and as wireless consumer, is reaping the
57:37
Speaker 15: benefit of that great Ronald Coast paper back in nineteen
57:40
Speaker 15: fifty nine, which, as you remember, suggested this crazy idea,
57:43
Speaker 15: why should the SEC just auction off this clearest resource
57:47
Speaker 15: instead of picking whoever its friends might be out in
57:50
Speaker 15: the audience. And so it's been a great success, and
57:53
Speaker 15: thanks to President Trump for getting this into the One
57:55
Speaker 15: Big Beautiful Bill last year.
57:57
Speaker 1: I'm talking with a gepie. He used to be the
57:59
Speaker 1: chairman of the FC. He now runs the Wireless Association,
58:02
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna pick winners and losers among the wireless.
58:04
Speaker 1: But I think I can say Chairman PI, performance is
58:08
Speaker 1: up everywhere, by which I mean we do have dueling
58:11
Speaker 1: celebrities on TV trying to tell us that they can
58:14
Speaker 1: get signals in even more remote places. That's not really
58:17
Speaker 1: the average American is looking to do it where there
58:19
Speaker 1: are a lot of cell towers around.
58:20
Speaker 6: Performance is across the board better. Why is that?
58:25
Speaker 15: It's because there's so much more spectrum in the marketplace
58:28
Speaker 15: now than there was before. In addition to that, of
58:31
Speaker 15: the companies are using those airwaves in much more efficient ways.
58:34
Speaker 15: They're always investing in research and development, hiring really smart
58:37
Speaker 15: engineers to figure out how can we squeeze more data
58:41
Speaker 15: through a certain part of the airwaves. And as a
58:43
Speaker 15: result of that more spectrum company market and that spectrum
58:46
Speaker 15: being used more efficiently, believe it or not, speeds are
58:49
Speaker 15: up one hundred and fifty seven percent since twenty ten,
58:53
Speaker 15: and in some cases well over three hundred percent. And
58:55
Speaker 15: so it's just incredible what the engineering in the wireless
58:59
Speaker 15: sector has done to make the consumer experience better. We
59:02
Speaker 15: might not notice a day to day because you know,
59:04
Speaker 15: we're typically thinking of where things were yesterday versus today,
59:07
Speaker 15: But when you look at the longer spans of time,
59:10
Speaker 15: you remember what cell phones were like just fifteen.
59:12
Speaker 1: I remember wireless modem. Mister Chairman, I'm the connect thing.
59:17
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm always amazed, always amazed at the performance.
59:22
Speaker 1: Now I do want to dig depa into something that's
59:24
Speaker 1: a little obscure. I teach con law and every year
59:28
Speaker 1: I have to do the dormant commerce clause, and of
59:30
Speaker 1: course the kids fall away because nobody wants to do that.
59:33
Speaker 1: We now have local taxing authorities, state and local putting
59:37
Speaker 1: taxes on wireless. Why is that not unconstitutional?
59:43
Speaker 15: This could not be a more timely conversation.
59:45
Speaker 3: Hu.
59:45
Speaker 15: In fact, just yesterday I met with Senator Mike Lee
59:48
Speaker 15: and each of our eyes lit up when the dormant
59:50
Speaker 15: commerce class got brought up. And I think, yeah, it's
59:53
Speaker 15: one of those only in DC type of conversations. But
59:56
Speaker 15: I think this is an important conversation to have. You
59:59
Speaker 15: identified one of them, which is local taxation, which is
1:00:02
Speaker 15: focused on things like wireless, or there are some attempts
1:00:04
Speaker 15: at local price regulation, which is of course a cousin
1:00:07
Speaker 15: to taxation. We're seeing that increasingly in some of these
1:00:10
Speaker 15: jurisdictions which are looking to regulate essentially what is inherently
1:00:13
Speaker 15: an interstate activity. And so one of the points I
1:00:15
Speaker 15: raised with Centator to lead I'll share with you now
1:00:17
Speaker 15: is that my own views that were coming to the
1:00:19
Speaker 15: point where there should be a conversation about the dormant
1:00:22
Speaker 15: commerce clause and any kind of preemption of some of
1:00:25
Speaker 15: the state and local regulation that's coming out there, because
1:00:28
Speaker 15: essentially what you're seeing in Sacramento, in some of these
1:00:31
Speaker 15: towns across the country is the attempt to raise revenue
1:00:35
Speaker 15: and essentially discriminate against this interstate activity, which you, as
1:00:38
Speaker 15: a student of Pike versus a Bruce Church will remember
1:00:40
Speaker 15: in other dormant common cases, this is one of the
1:00:44
Speaker 15: things that could inhibit America's national competitiveness and essentially restrain
1:00:49
Speaker 15: what is this important interstate activity. So I hope Congress
1:00:52
Speaker 15: and the White House and others who are interested like
1:00:54
Speaker 15: you will help forge this conversation. Arcane is that they
1:00:58
Speaker 15: might be. I think if you told the average American, look,
1:01:01
Speaker 15: we have a priority in the United States of beating
1:01:03
Speaker 15: China when it comes to wireless innovation. We can't do
1:01:06
Speaker 15: that if there are federal and state and local and
1:01:09
Speaker 15: need sometimes even tribal hoops that have to be jumped
1:01:12
Speaker 15: through in terms of regulation and taxation. I think that's
1:01:14
Speaker 15: something the American people would get behind.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: And moreover, secret taxation is the worst kind of taxation.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: It is you don't know that you're paying the bill
1:01:23
Speaker 1: in your cell phone bill. So at very least I
1:01:26
Speaker 1: would like Congress to mandate transparency and pricing. I'd love
1:01:30
Speaker 1: to know how much of my cell phoned bill is
1:01:32
Speaker 1: going to the state and local authority that's taxing me.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: I want to close my talking with you a little
1:01:36
Speaker 1: bit about the spectrum auction. I've been a big proponent
1:01:39
Speaker 1: of it. DoD did not want it to happen. Now
1:01:41
Speaker 1: the Department of War. Are we done with the spectrum
1:01:44
Speaker 1: wars or is there still after battles going on?
1:01:49
Speaker 15: Well, is an ongoing conversation. As part of that bill
1:01:52
Speaker 15: which I mentioned, President Trump signed that there's going to
1:01:56
Speaker 15: be an eight hundred megahertz pipeline spectrum coming to the
1:01:58
Speaker 15: marketplace of the band spectrum. Bands that are included within
1:02:02
Speaker 15: that eight hundred or likely to be included involved the
1:02:06
Speaker 15: Department of War and some of their federal agencies, and
1:02:08
Speaker 15: so we as an industry have been cooperatively engaged with
1:02:11
Speaker 15: them as well as the White House to make sure
1:02:13
Speaker 15: that there's not a butting of heads here.
1:02:15
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
1:02:16
Speaker 15: The wireless industry believes strongly in national security. We want
1:02:19
Speaker 15: the country to be able to defend itself while also
1:02:22
Speaker 15: promoting the wireless innovation that's critical for economic competitiveness VISAVR
1:02:26
Speaker 15: geopolitical rivals. And here again, President Trump has been a
1:02:29
Speaker 15: leader on this issue, as he was during the first
1:02:31
Speaker 15: term when I had the privilege of serving as the chairman,
1:02:34
Speaker 15: and so I'm confident that's going forward. We'll have a
1:02:36
Speaker 15: very collaborative relationship with the Department of War, with some
1:02:39
Speaker 15: of the other federal agencies that are involved. At the
1:02:41
Speaker 15: end of the day, we all benefit from a strong
1:02:44
Speaker 15: American wireless sector and that goes no less for federal
1:02:48
Speaker 15: agencies than it does for American citizens.
1:02:50
Speaker 1: Chairman Pi, good to talk to you again. I'll be
1:02:52
Speaker 1: back inside the Beltway come Saturday. I hope you guys
1:02:55
Speaker 1: go out from the CTIA and hire Paul Clement or
1:02:58
Speaker 1: somebody and starts shilling on the dorm commerce claus because
1:03:01
Speaker 1: then the kids will actually be interested when it hits
1:03:02
Speaker 1: their their pocket. Good to see you again, miss Chairman
1:03:06
Speaker 1: Joe Brown's I hope we meet with the chiefs this year.
1:03:08
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: And when we do we'll talk again. Thank you a
1:03:11
Speaker 1: jeep pie. Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined down
1:03:16
Speaker 1: in the Relief Actor studio by Philip Belboni, founder editor
1:03:19
Speaker 1: in chief of GlobalPost dot com. Once a month Philip
1:03:23
Speaker 1: joins me to talk about some world news that you
1:03:25
Speaker 1: may not have heard about and is ahead of the headlines.
1:03:28
Speaker 1: And boy, I was surprised to find Vietnam in the story.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: Lead Philip, how did first of all, how do I
1:03:36
Speaker 1: pronounce the leader's name.
1:03:40
Speaker 6: Lom okay to Lomer.
1:03:45
Speaker 1: He's doing the doung shaoping thing, if I read you
1:03:48
Speaker 1: correctly explain to the audience what he's trying to get
1:03:51
Speaker 1: Vietnam from.
1:03:53
Speaker 16: And two, so he is instituting one of the most
1:03:58
Speaker 16: important changes from in a generation in Vietnam. So important
1:04:03
Speaker 16: for our listeners' viewers to remember that Vietnam is still
1:04:07
Speaker 16: a communist country ruled by the Vietnamese Communist Party, only
1:04:12
Speaker 16: one of five countries left in the world ruled by
1:04:15
Speaker 16: the Communist Party.
1:04:17
Speaker 7: In about ten years.
1:04:18
Speaker 16: After the war, our war with Vietnam, which you will
1:04:23
Speaker 16: remember well, as do I, they introduced their first reform
1:04:27
Speaker 16: which brought some private enterprise, brought foreign investment into Vietnam
1:04:32
Speaker 16: for the first time ever. This is the first major
1:04:36
Speaker 16: change since the nineteen eighties, the mid nineteen eighties. So
1:04:41
Speaker 16: the new General Secretary is making a big bet. He's
1:04:46
Speaker 16: basically saying that the private sector is going to be
1:04:49
Speaker 16: the real driver of the economy of Vietnam for the
1:04:54
Speaker 16: next ten years, and he's going to put a lot
1:04:59
Speaker 16: of money behind it and his influence and power.
1:05:02
Speaker 7: Behind it.
1:05:04
Speaker 16: To try to move Vietnam from where it is right now,
1:05:07
Speaker 16: which is a pretty impressive manufacturing center in Southeast Asia.
1:05:13
Speaker 16: I mean, Vietnam is one hundred billion dollar trade surplus
1:05:16
Speaker 16: with the United States. Basically they manufacture electronics and other
1:05:21
Speaker 16: things with inexpensive labor, and then a ship all over
1:05:26
Speaker 16: the world, particularly to the United States and Europe.
1:05:29
Speaker 1: Am I right to be reminded of China under dunk
1:05:33
Speaker 1: shopping when he moved the polist model to the capitalism
1:05:39
Speaker 1: with Chinese characteristics or socialism with Chinese I don't know
1:05:42
Speaker 1: what he called it, but it was basically, we got
1:05:44
Speaker 1: to get out of the communist model it donemore.
1:05:47
Speaker 7: Exactly. And look what happened to China because of that.
1:05:51
Speaker 7: I mean, China is you know, the number two economy
1:05:57
Speaker 7: in the world.
1:05:57
Speaker 16: I mean, obviously, they're export sector is immensely powerful, and
1:06:04
Speaker 16: they're investing in so many other areas, so you're absolutely
1:06:08
Speaker 16: right to reference that this is really a direct correlation.
1:06:14
Speaker 16: They did have an earlier phase. Now this is a
1:06:16
Speaker 16: new phase, and the General Secretary of Tailan wants to
1:06:20
Speaker 16: invest in twenty industries that he sees as critical to
1:06:24
Speaker 16: the future of the global economy and to Vietnam's opportunity.
1:06:29
Speaker 7: You know, to move forward. Now, you know, this is
1:06:32
Speaker 7: not easy to do in a.
1:06:36
Speaker 16: Country like Vietnam, where the there's a lot of entrenched
1:06:40
Speaker 16: power in the state run industries. The big military sector
1:06:44
Speaker 16: is still very powerful. They run a lot of these companies.
1:06:48
Speaker 16: They make a lot of money the generals from this.
1:06:51
Speaker 16: So he'll get resistance. But he's a pretty powerful.
1:06:55
Speaker 6: Guy, and I wanted to go to that.
1:06:57
Speaker 1: I did not understand that Tolan was looking to do
1:07:01
Speaker 1: what now, I'm going to switch Chinese leaders on us
1:07:04
Speaker 1: what Ji jinping ha done, which is basically eliminate everybody
1:07:09
Speaker 1: but himself from the control of everything. And he wants
1:07:13
Speaker 1: to be president now as well as general secretary. He's
1:07:16
Speaker 1: sixty eight years old. He could do this for a while.
1:07:20
Speaker 16: He could Oh my goodness, look at some of our leaders, right,
1:07:24
Speaker 16: So I mean sixty eight is young, let's face it.
1:07:27
Speaker 16: I mean really sixty eight is in fact young nowadays.
1:07:32
Speaker 16: So he could be powerful for a long time. And
1:07:35
Speaker 16: you're right, he does want to be president and he
1:07:38
Speaker 16: may well be. If he's not, then that would mean
1:07:42
Speaker 16: that probably one of the generals would move into that
1:07:46
Speaker 16: position and would have the opportunity to kind of block
1:07:50
Speaker 16: maybe some of his reforms.
1:07:51
Speaker 7: So it's going to be a fascinating thing to see.
1:07:55
Speaker 16: And you know, those of us who either remember or
1:07:59
Speaker 16: serve in the Vietnam War, I mean this country, which
1:08:04
Speaker 16: I was last in as a first lieutenant in the
1:08:07
Speaker 16: United States Army in nineteen sixty six. When I look
1:08:12
Speaker 16: at the changes that have taken place there, the dynamism
1:08:16
Speaker 16: of that country.
1:08:18
Speaker 7: Is nothing short of amazing.
1:08:21
Speaker 1: They have one big problem, Phil I did not I
1:08:24
Speaker 1: wasn't part of the Vietnam War. It's not my generation,
1:08:26
Speaker 1: so I didn't get called. But I did go to
1:08:29
Speaker 1: Vietnam before COVID and they had a water problem. The
1:08:32
Speaker 1: Coong Delta was being diverted by China, and they had
1:08:35
Speaker 1: a water problem in the Delta and every because they
1:08:39
Speaker 1: all work for the state, they're all communists, so they're
1:08:41
Speaker 1: giving us the party line. But is there any pushed
1:08:45
Speaker 1: by them to go into desalinization or to solve their
1:08:48
Speaker 1: water problem because they can't really rely on China not
1:08:51
Speaker 1: to screw with them.
1:08:54
Speaker 16: I don't think they've gotten into desalinization like some of
1:08:59
Speaker 16: the golf countries that we're.
1:09:00
Speaker 7: All talking about right now, and I think their water
1:09:03
Speaker 7: problem is still there. So and agriculture is still very
1:09:08
Speaker 7: important in Vietnam.
1:09:10
Speaker 16: I mean back in the sixties and seventies, it was
1:09:13
Speaker 16: very much in agrarian society, and now they moved to,
1:09:18
Speaker 16: you know, being a big manufacturing center for the world
1:09:22
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1:09:23
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1:13:15
Speaker 1: not yours. Thank you for joining us today. Would you
1:13:17
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1:13:21
Speaker 1: different from when you were last on the quick background
1:13:24
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1:13:25
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1:13:29
Speaker 5: Sure, well, I'm writing now for Jewish Insider, which for
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Speaker 1: So I listened to your podcast on the Momwars dot
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Speaker 6: Am I right about that? Or were you born in
1:14:07
Speaker 6: Israel then went to America and came back.
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Speaker 5: I was born in the US and my mother's Israeli.
1:14:13
Speaker 5: I'm Israeli now too.
1:14:14
Speaker 4: I live here now.
1:14:15
Speaker 1: But yeah, and your husband is on reserve duty and
1:14:18
Speaker 1: we won't talk much about that, but you're raising kids,
1:14:21
Speaker 1: were a I always ask bethany how her Israeli friends
1:14:24
Speaker 1: are doing in the middle of this now thirty month
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Speaker 1: of war, and how are you doing? I mean, just
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Speaker 1: are you more resilient. Do you think there will be
1:14:32
Speaker 1: a lot of PTS in the aftermath of whenever peace
1:14:36
Speaker 1: arrives across the country.
1:14:41
Speaker 5: I think we're already seeing across Israel, like people who
1:14:45
Speaker 5: are having different mental health issues, a lot of soldiers
1:14:48
Speaker 5: who are coming home with PTSD. You're asking about my home.
1:14:52
Speaker 5: I think that the current war with Iran, where my
1:14:57
Speaker 5: kids have been home from school for a week and
1:14:59
Speaker 5: a half, are running to bomb shelters a lot more
1:15:02
Speaker 5: frequently than we were in the past. I think it's
1:15:05
Speaker 5: the barrages are smaller, but they've been more frequent than
1:15:08
Speaker 5: the Iran war last year, so it has been difficult
1:15:12
Speaker 5: and sort of causes a lot of anxiety in the kids.
1:15:16
Speaker 5: I do think it'll help them sort of be resilient
1:15:19
Speaker 5: and overcome, you know, the smaller obstacles and bumps in
1:15:23
Speaker 5: their roads in the future. So that's my hope that
1:15:26
Speaker 5: that's something that they get out of this.
1:15:27
Speaker 1: You know, I talked pretty regularly with Ivy Ready, Gore
1:15:31
Speaker 1: and a few other correspondence based in Isuel, like Nadave
1:15:35
Speaker 1: All and I meet Sagal and of course doctor Warren.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: I've got to ask them if they think this generation
1:15:40
Speaker 1: of Israeli children and soldiers will be like the greatest
1:15:44
Speaker 1: generation in American World War Two. They won't talk about
1:15:47
Speaker 1: it because everyone went through it. Nobody has a special
1:15:50
Speaker 1: relationship with it. Do you expect that's what's going to happen?
1:15:55
Speaker 5: It's interesting, I mean I think that. Look when you
1:15:59
Speaker 5: start saying and are they going to be the greatest generation?
1:16:01
Speaker 5: I think people are really really proud of the Israelis
1:16:04
Speaker 5: who are you know, from eighteen to their early thirties
1:16:09
Speaker 5: who are fighting in this war. My husband's in his
1:16:11
Speaker 5: late thirties that he's fighting in this war, but most
1:16:13
Speaker 5: of the people he's with are younger than him, and
1:16:16
Speaker 5: people are really proud of how the like gen Z
1:16:19
Speaker 5: and younger millennials of Israel really stepped up. Despite all
1:16:22
Speaker 5: the things people like to say about those generations. But
1:16:26
Speaker 5: in terms of not talking about it, I think it's
1:16:28
Speaker 5: still a different reality, you know, eighty years later, where
1:16:32
Speaker 5: people do talk about, you know, mental health and how
1:16:35
Speaker 5: to process things, and that's definitely part of the public
1:16:37
Speaker 5: conversation in Israel.
1:16:39
Speaker 1: So now the big question, and you talked about it
1:16:41
Speaker 1: a bit with Bethany. There are about sixteen million Jews
1:16:44
Speaker 1: in the world out of eight point five billion people.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: But for some reason they draw the mnity the ancient
1:16:50
Speaker 1: evil hates Jews. And we had an attack in America
1:16:53
Speaker 1: today on a synagogue in West Bloomfield, Michigan. Details still unfolding.
1:16:58
Speaker 1: I won't know until late night, more about motive than
1:17:01
Speaker 1: a shooter and all that sort of stuff. My question,
1:17:04
Speaker 1: do you expect in gathering to accelerate after this war
1:17:09
Speaker 1: is over or to decelerate?
1:17:13
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's two reactions that diaspora Jews have,
1:17:17
Speaker 5: which is, you know, over the last century, American Jews
1:17:21
Speaker 5: have very rapidly assimilated, and so the percentage of American
1:17:28
Speaker 5: Jews who are like really observant and it's part of
1:17:32
Speaker 5: their day to day lives is pretty small. It's you know,
1:17:36
Speaker 5: ten percent are Orthodox, but we could say some who
1:17:38
Speaker 5: aren't Orthodox are very committed to Judaism, but it's still
1:17:42
Speaker 5: significantly less than half right. And so I think that
1:17:47
Speaker 5: people are going to look and try to make a choice,
1:17:49
Speaker 5: and some of them are going to say, I just
1:17:51
Speaker 5: want to assimilate and just try to be American. And
1:17:55
Speaker 5: you know, there's this expression that you know, the woke
1:17:58
Speaker 5: people like to use that's white enough. JeOS are white passing,
1:18:02
Speaker 5: and they're just going to try to fit in in America,
1:18:04
Speaker 5: and then some will feel you know, no, I'm not
1:18:07
Speaker 5: going to hide who I am. I'm very proud of
1:18:10
Speaker 5: my history and my people, and then they might be
1:18:14
Speaker 5: inspired to have a greater connection to Israel, including emigrating.
1:18:18
Speaker 6: I'll be right back with Lahab Harkob. Go nowhere.
1:18:21
Speaker 1: You can find her over on ex at Lahab Parkov.
1:18:24
Speaker 1: I'll be right backstage to.
1:18:28
Speaker 6: Welcome back America.
1:18:29
Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Lahab Parkob is with me. She's with
1:18:32
Speaker 1: Jewish Insight, or you can follow her on x at
1:18:35
Speaker 1: Lahab Harkov. No underscore, nothing, just Lahab Harkob, and she's
1:18:40
Speaker 1: a star Wars geek. I learned that from Bethany Mandel.
1:18:43
Speaker 1: We won't bring up your perim or purim, or however
1:18:46
Speaker 1: you say it. I am a gentile. I mispronounced everything
1:18:49
Speaker 1: having anything remotely to do with Hebrew Lahab, so I'm
1:18:51
Speaker 1: sorry about that. What is your satisfaction level with the
1:18:56
Speaker 1: government's communication of the war plan with a.
1:19:02
Speaker 5: So, you know, as somebody who covers Israel for an
1:19:06
Speaker 5: American audience, I'm looking at the communications in both countries,
1:19:10
Speaker 5: and I think in some ways the Israeli government is
1:19:15
Speaker 5: communicating the goals and the reasons much better than American
1:19:20
Speaker 5: than the US government. But on the other hand, I
1:19:21
Speaker 5: think that Israelis were much more prepped for this, right like,
1:19:25
Speaker 5: I think for at least the past fifteen years, but
1:19:28
Speaker 5: really more if people were paying close attention to the news.
1:19:31
Speaker 5: Israelis have known that Iran is trying to build a
1:19:34
Speaker 5: nuclear weapon that serves as a serious threat to our lives.
1:19:39
Speaker 5: And they know that Iran pays the terrorist groups that
1:19:42
Speaker 5: have been attacking us, you know, for many decades.
1:19:47
Speaker 14: And so.
1:19:49
Speaker 5: Israelis were primed for this message, right We didn't. We
1:19:53
Speaker 5: were told what it's about from the first night of
1:19:55
Speaker 5: the war, but we also knew it already. And when
1:19:58
Speaker 5: you look at polls, eighty percent of Israelis and ninety
1:20:02
Speaker 5: percent of Israeli Jews support the war, and that's in
1:20:06
Speaker 5: more than one poll in the US. I think that
1:20:09
Speaker 5: it's just not I mean, yes, people have seen news
1:20:12
Speaker 5: about Iran ever since the revolution and the hostage situation
1:20:16
Speaker 5: that came with the revolution, but I think it just
1:20:20
Speaker 5: wasn't as much of the conversation and so people need
1:20:25
Speaker 5: much better communication in order to understand why this is
1:20:28
Speaker 5: important and why Iran poses a threat to the US
1:20:31
Speaker 5: and not just Israel in the Middle East.
1:20:33
Speaker 1: Now, I talk with Dan seen Or at the beginning
1:20:35
Speaker 1: of the show about this, and so I'm going to
1:20:37
Speaker 1: pose the same question to you. Americans are an impatient bunch,
1:20:40
Speaker 1: and unless they know the end of something, they want
1:20:43
Speaker 1: to know how long the movie is before it starts.
1:20:46
Speaker 1: We don't know how long this war is going to be,
1:20:48
Speaker 1: and we can't for the same reason that Bletchley Park wasn't.
1:20:53
Speaker 6: Known during World War Two, and for the same.
1:20:56
Speaker 1: Reason Israel didn't tell Hesbal, hey, we've got your beepers
1:20:59
Speaker 1: in your page is wired.
1:21:00
Speaker 6: We don't tell people what we're doing in a war.
1:21:03
Speaker 1: Are israelis more accepting of uncertainty than you think Americans are?
1:21:09
Speaker 5: Well, I think we've been living with serious uncertainty for
1:21:12
Speaker 5: the past two and a half years. It's not to
1:21:15
Speaker 5: say that there aren't voices in the mainstream Israeli media
1:21:18
Speaker 5: who you know, are trying to put up an hour
1:21:22
Speaker 5: glass or turn over the hourglass so that we can
1:21:24
Speaker 5: end the war already, because certainly nobody is like even
1:21:28
Speaker 5: while we support the war. We're not happy to be
1:21:30
Speaker 5: at war, but I do think that again, Israelis, we're
1:21:34
Speaker 5: just a lot more prepared for this.
1:21:36
Speaker 1: All right now, I want to ask for your crystal ball.
1:21:39
Speaker 1: It seems to me that Israeli media and the IDEF
1:21:43
Speaker 1: and the Prime Minister are preparing Israelis for the occupation
1:21:47
Speaker 1: of Lebanon from the Latani River south and the evacuation
1:21:52
Speaker 1: of all Lebanese citizens in that region until such time
1:21:55
Speaker 1: as has bea law is disbanded and disarmed. Is that
1:21:59
Speaker 1: the messaging? Am I getting it right?
1:22:03
Speaker 5: So there's been some reports the government has not put
1:22:07
Speaker 5: out any messaging to that effect. I think, you know,
1:22:11
Speaker 5: Israel already militarily occupied that area for eighteen years, although
1:22:18
Speaker 5: they didn't evacuate all the residents at that time. So
1:22:23
Speaker 5: maybe if they are all like you guys do, they
1:22:24
Speaker 5: could actually get the work done a lot quicker. But
1:22:28
Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of people who will
1:22:31
Speaker 5: be more resistant to that if that becomes the message.
1:22:35
Speaker 5: But certainly I think that a broader ground invasion of Lebanon,
1:22:41
Speaker 5: much like we saw soon after the October seventh attacks,
1:22:44
Speaker 5: and then she's allowed joined on October eighth, I think
1:22:47
Speaker 5: we might see a repeat of that.
1:22:48
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I think has to happen in order
1:22:50
Speaker 1: to finish the war. And I also think something has
1:22:54
Speaker 1: to be done with a MOS. Even though they're cut off,
1:22:57
Speaker 1: even though they're out of money, even though they are
1:23:00
Speaker 1: they're not being resupplied with ammunition. They can't be allowed
1:23:03
Speaker 1: to stay there.
1:23:04
Speaker 6: That's my view. What is your view?
1:23:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you.
1:23:09
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, Hamas will never be disarmed
1:23:12
Speaker 5: by anyone other than Israel. It's very clear that nobody
1:23:15
Speaker 5: has the motivation the will to do that other than Israel.
1:23:20
Speaker 5: And the US and Israel are already finding a different
1:23:23
Speaker 5: war together. So well, Trump has made some statements that
1:23:26
Speaker 5: might make people think the US will be doing that.
1:23:28
Speaker 5: I really have my doubts, and so I think it's
1:23:31
Speaker 5: just a matter of time before Israel has to go
1:23:34
Speaker 5: in there again and fully defeat Hamas. I think President Trump,
1:23:39
Speaker 5: on the one hand, you know, he had his ceasefire plan,
1:23:42
Speaker 5: but I think that if Hamas is not disarmed and
1:23:45
Speaker 5: Hamas continues to attack Israeli soldiers, that he'll be pretty understanding.
1:23:50
Speaker 5: Like from his statements, he says all the time, they
1:23:52
Speaker 5: need to be disarmed, and Israel will need that support
1:23:57
Speaker 5: in all likelihood in order to do it.
1:23:59
Speaker 1: Now, last question in Lahav. I know you're a student
1:24:01
Speaker 1: of history. It took a long time for historians to
1:24:05
Speaker 1: decide that World War two began on September one, nineteen
1:24:08
Speaker 1: thirty nine, even though the United States wasn't bombed until
1:24:11
Speaker 1: December seventh, nineteen forty one. I think this war started
1:24:15
Speaker 1: on ten seven, and I think it will end when
1:24:18
Speaker 1: all of Iran's tentacles are dead and the head of
1:24:22
Speaker 1: the snake is not even twitching anymore, and until that time,
1:24:25
Speaker 1: it's the same war. How do you think about it?
1:24:27
Speaker 1: Many wars are one war.
1:24:31
Speaker 5: I definitely think of it as one war, and I
1:24:34
Speaker 5: think we had the pre sort of rumblings of it
1:24:37
Speaker 5: even earlier in twenty twenty three, then October seventh, because
1:24:41
Speaker 5: in spring of twenty twenty three, and maybe people don't remember,
1:24:44
Speaker 5: Israel faced attacks from Gaza, Juday and Samaria or the
1:24:48
Speaker 5: West Bank and Lebanon. All it was basically all during Passover,
1:24:54
Speaker 5: and people were portraying it at the time as Ran
1:24:56
Speaker 5: trying to surround Israel with a ring of fire, and
1:25:00
Speaker 5: so you could even say it started before that right,
1:25:03
Speaker 5: but certainly the big attack was os Over seven. Then
1:25:07
Speaker 5: I do think it's all related. Iran has been funding it.
1:25:10
Speaker 5: These are all allies and proxies of Iran, and until
1:25:15
Speaker 5: there's a new regime in Iran, I think Israel's going
1:25:17
Speaker 5: to continue facing the Iranian threat, both the nuclear threat
1:25:22
Speaker 5: and the proxy threat, and also the missile threat because
1:25:25
Speaker 5: they will try to rebuild.
1:25:27
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