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Don't buy this SERIAL KILLER'S mansion! The haunting of Fox Hollow Farm · Crime and Horror

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Speaker 1: Before her Baumeister would become a prolific, horrible serial killer.
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Speaker 1: He was a pillar of his community. He was a
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Speaker 1: doting father, He was a loving husband. His neighbors enjoyed
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Speaker 1: spending time with him because he was high energy and
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Speaker 1: he threw great parties. But what people didn't know from
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Speaker 1: outward appearances is that he was schizophrenic, and having diagnosed
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Speaker 1: at a young age, he also had this deep obsession
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Speaker 1: with death and dying that he could never quite shake.
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Speaker 2: His morbid obsession.
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Speaker 1: Would ultimately take over and he would go on to
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Speaker 1: end the lives of nearly two dozen young men in Indiana,
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Speaker 1: and he would bury the majority of them on his property,
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Speaker 1: which was known as Fox Hollow Farm. When an investigation
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Speaker 1: into all these missing young men in Indiana points at
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Speaker 1: her Baumeister being the primary suspect, Baumeister flees his property
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Speaker 1: and ultimately ends his own life, and in the note
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Speaker 1: he leaves, he just says that the reason he's taking
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Speaker 1: his own life is because his business is failing and
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Speaker 1: so is his marriage. He doesn't confess to any of
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Speaker 1: the murders. He doesn't give investigators any indication of how
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Speaker 1: many people he killed or where they are.
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Speaker 2: He didn't get any closure to anyone. He just took
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Speaker 2: his own life and that was that.
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Speaker 1: And so while investigators did a very thorough search of
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Speaker 1: the property that Baumeister owned, the Fox Hollow Farms property,
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Speaker 1: and found over five thousand human bone fragments and were
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Speaker 1: able to identify a number of victims, they believe that
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Speaker 1: there are more victims buried at Fox Hollow Farms that
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Speaker 1: we may never uncover. So our story picks up over
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Speaker 1: a decade later when two new owners come in purchased
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Speaker 1: Fox Hollow Farms and almost immediately some very strange things
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Speaker 1: start happening in and around the property. Then they record
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Speaker 1: this very famous audio recording inside the property, which that
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Speaker 1: in conjunction with the other strange things that they had
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Speaker 1: seen around the property, leaves them to believe that Fox
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Speaker 1: Hollow Farms is haunted. So before we get into their story,
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Speaker 1: and we listened to that audio recording. If you're interested
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Speaker 2: So let's dive in.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, Rob Vicki Graves and their
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Speaker 1: two teenage sons were tired of living the city, fast
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Speaker 1: paced lifestyle and decided to look for some property in
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Speaker 1: suburban Indiana where they could kind of escape that busy lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: And so when they were looking at real.
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Speaker 1: Estate in some of the nicer suburbs of Indiana, they
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Speaker 1: found this one property called Fox Hollow Farms that was
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Speaker 1: this huge, sprawling estate but was selling for some unbelievably
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Speaker 1: cheap price. And so they contact a real estate agent
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Speaker 1: who says, yeah, we'd love to give you a tour
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Speaker 1: of the place. It's it's up for sale and no
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Speaker 1: one's occupying it right now. It's owned by an investor,
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Speaker 1: but they are looking to sell obviously, so yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: have let's do a house tour. And so there they're
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Speaker 1: open minded. It seems too good to be true, but
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Speaker 1: they decide, you know what, we'll go take a look.
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Speaker 1: And so they get to this property and it's it's beautiful,
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Speaker 1: it is it is everything.
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Speaker 2: They wanted there. This this dream home they're looking for
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Speaker 2: to be, you know, as.
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Speaker 1: An indoor swimming pool. It's got loads of bedrooms and bathrooms.
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Speaker 1: It's it's like basically a mansion. And as they're walking
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Speaker 1: around the property, Rob is speaking to his wife Vicky,
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Speaker 1: and they're both kind of going back and forth, like
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with this place?
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Speaker 2: This doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: Rob starts to wonder, wait a second, I think I've
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Speaker 1: heard of this place on TV before. And he's having
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Speaker 1: like an epiphany and he's like, I think that this
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Speaker 1: could actually be the home of one of the most
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Speaker 1: notorious serial killers in Indiana's.
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Speaker 2: History, Herb Baumeister.
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Speaker 1: It's like came to him that the name Fox Hollow
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Speaker 1: Farm was something he remembered hearing on TV, and so
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Speaker 1: he stopped the real estate agent on their tour and
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Speaker 1: he says, hey, this this is a beautiful home, but
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Speaker 1: is this the home of Herb Balmeister, And the real
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Speaker 1: estate agent, almost expecting this to be brought up, was like, yes,
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Speaker 1: that's why it's still in the market. People are unwilling
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Speaker 1: to purchase this home, even though the investor who scooped
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Speaker 1: this up in the nineties following the tragedy that was
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Speaker 1: the Herb Baumeister case. The investor had basically gutted the
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Speaker 1: whole residence and basically removed all the kind of remnants
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Speaker 1: of what it used to look like when Herb Baumeister
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Speaker 1: was living there. Nobody wanted it because, you know, Herb
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Speaker 1: Baumeister had killed nearly two dozen young men and buried
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Speaker 1: them on the property, and investigators still were finding pieces
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Speaker 1: of bone on the property, and they didn't really know
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Speaker 1: how many victims there were, and so it was this
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Speaker 1: kind of spooky place to live. And so the real
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Speaker 1: estate agent just said, that's why it's so cheap. The
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Speaker 1: property is beautiful, it's well kept. No one wants to
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Speaker 1: be here because of the history. The real estate agent says, here,
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Speaker 1: why don't you and your wife just go talk about it.
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Speaker 2: We can leave if you guys aren't comfortable with this. Ultimately,
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Speaker 2: they decide to purchase the property.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks later, Robin Vicki and their
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Speaker 1: two teenage sons move into Fox Hollow Farms and they
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Speaker 1: love it, and especially their two teenage sons love swimming
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Speaker 1: in the pool. And they had gotten in the habit
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Speaker 1: of basically running around outside and then tracking in dirt
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Speaker 1: and gravel into the swimming pool. And so one day
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Speaker 1: Vicky is vacuuming up some of this dirt and gravel
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Speaker 1: that had gotten inside of the area around the pool,
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Speaker 1: and so she's vacuuming up the gravel and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, her vacuum cuts out, and in fact, the
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Speaker 1: power cord where the vacuum was attached to had come undone,
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Speaker 1: and so she thinks, oh, I must have, you know,
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Speaker 1: yanked on the cord and pulled it out of the outlet,
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Speaker 1: and so she goes over and she plugs it back in,
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Speaker 1: and she goes back to vacuuming up the gravel that
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Speaker 1: was in the pool, and so as she's doing that,
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Speaker 1: it goes out again, which is probably because she remembered
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Speaker 1: thinking to herself, like, don't yank on the cord, because
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Speaker 1: you just unplugged it.
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Speaker 2: And she turns around and now the cord from.
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Speaker 1: The vacuum and the outlet it was plugged into are
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Speaker 1: separated by about a foot that it was as if
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Speaker 1: it had been like yanked out pretty hard. And she's
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Speaker 1: thinking to herself, like, did I just yank on it again?
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Speaker 1: Like am I wrapped on a chair or something? Like
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Speaker 1: how did I yank it out? And how did it
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Speaker 1: move a foot away from the outlet? And so after
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Speaker 1: she plugs it in, she checks it and kind of
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Speaker 1: yanks on it to make sure it's not falling out
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Speaker 1: on its own, like it's not a you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of weak connection to the.
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Speaker 2: Port, and it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's in there secure, and she goes back to vacuuming,
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Speaker 1: and she's looking over her shoulder and checking the outlet
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Speaker 1: as she's vacuuming, like wondering like what was causing it
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Speaker 1: to pop out of the socket like that. And as
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Speaker 1: she's looking at it, she watches it pop out of
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Speaker 1: the socket again, except it didn't just fall.
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Speaker 2: To the ground.
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Speaker 1: It like jumped out, as if there was a surge
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Speaker 1: of electricity that you know, popped it out of the
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Speaker 1: socket or something. And she drops the vacuum because it's
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Speaker 1: startled her and she didn't know what to make of it.
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Speaker 1: Rob worked at a car dealership and one of his employees, Joe,
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Speaker 1: was chronically late, and it got to the point where
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Speaker 1: Rob's like, Joe, what's going on, Like why are you
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Speaker 1: always late? And Joe said, you know, I live over
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Speaker 1: an hour away and I just I can't get here
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Speaker 1: on time.
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Speaker 2: I got to find somewhere, you know, to live that's
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Speaker 2: closer to the dealership.
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Speaker 1: And Rob is like, well, actually, we have an entire
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Speaker 1: apartment attached to our residence at Fox Hall of Farms
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Speaker 1: that no one's staying in. We'd be happy to let
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Speaker 1: you rent that out. It's right down the road. And
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Speaker 1: Joe's like, actually, that sounds pretty great. And so just
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Speaker 1: a couple days later, Rob helps Joe move into the
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Speaker 1: new apartment and they spend the whole day moving all
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Speaker 1: the boxes and furniture in there, and just in the
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Speaker 1: span of just a few hours they move everything into
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Speaker 1: Joe's apartment.
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Speaker 2: Rob leaves, Joe is exhausted.
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Speaker 1: It's just he and his dog Fred, and Joe just
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Speaker 1: decides to crash for the night and.
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Speaker 2: He lays down in the bed and falls asleep.
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Speaker 1: And so that night he has this dream where he's
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Speaker 1: being chased by someone. He doesn't know what it is,
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Speaker 1: but it causes him to actually act out his dream
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Speaker 1: like sleepwalk. He jumps up out of his bed and
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Speaker 1: starts running as if he needs to escape the apartment,
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Speaker 1: but he's like kind of half dreaming, and he runs
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Speaker 1: into the doorframe falls to the ground, knocks a glass
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Speaker 1: over and actually cuts his hands up pretty bad, and
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Speaker 1: so he comes to and he's like looking around and.
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Speaker 2: He's like, what was that.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of days later, Vicky comes home and
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Speaker 1: she finds Rob painting the side of the house and
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Speaker 1: she and Rob stop and are talking about how beautiful
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Speaker 1: it's gonna look when the painting's done, and out of
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Speaker 1: the corner bride Vicky sees something in the forest that
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Speaker 1: was on the edge of their property and it was
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Speaker 1: actually a man standing with a red t shirt on,
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Speaker 1: just like looking at their property.
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Speaker 2: And as she's looking at him, he turns around and.
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Speaker 1: He starts walking away farther into the forest, and so
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Speaker 1: she kind of looks and before she says anything to Rob,
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Speaker 1: the guy has just vanished into the woods, and so
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Speaker 1: she just goes Rob, Rob, I just saw someone standing
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Speaker 1: on our property.
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Speaker 2: He had a red shirt on and he's right over there.
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Speaker 1: And Rob immediately is like, well, you know, honestly, we
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Speaker 1: moved into a serial killer's house.
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Speaker 2: We should accept that there's gonna be people that.
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Speaker 1: Are just gonna want to speak on to a property
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Speaker 1: to get a look at this building. And so they
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Speaker 1: walk over to where Vicky has seen this guy in
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Speaker 1: red and they look and you know, there's.
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Speaker 2: No one there. They yell out like, hey, is anybody here,
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Speaker 2: and no one's there.
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Speaker 1: And so, even though it was pretty unsettling, Vicky and
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Speaker 1: Rob just decide that I guess this is the reality
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Speaker 1: of living here, is that you're gonna have people spying
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Speaker 1: on you a little bit because of the notoriety of
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Speaker 1: the home.
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Speaker 2: So later that night, Joe is in his.
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Speaker 1: Apartment and he's doing some dishes and it's late at night,
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Speaker 1: probably like ten or eleven o'clock at night, and he
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Speaker 1: hears a knock on the door and he's literally mid dishes.
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Speaker 2: His hands are wet, and.
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Speaker 1: So he turns off the water and he yells out, hey,
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Speaker 1: just a second, and he starts toweling off his hands,
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Speaker 1: and as he's doing that, the knocking gets louder and
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Speaker 1: more aggressive, and he's like, hey, hold on, I'm just
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Speaker 1: drying my hands off. Hold on, and he assumes it's
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Speaker 1: Vicky or Rob, and so he starts walking over and
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Speaker 1: the knocking is just incessant, and he finally opens door
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Speaker 1: and no one's there. It wasn't like the knocking was
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Speaker 1: going on and stopped, and then he went over there
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Speaker 1: and opened it. It was literally like the knocking was happening.
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Speaker 1: As he's opening the door and no one is standing there.
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Speaker 1: He's like immediately on guard, like, okay, someone like on
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Speaker 1: the roof like bending down. Is someone hiding? Like what's
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Speaker 1: going on? And he kind of pokes his head out
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Speaker 1: and he's looking around, and he actually steps out onto
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Speaker 1: the front steps there and he's looking around and he
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Speaker 1: figured like if someone had knocked, they'd be running away
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Speaker 1: if they're gone already, and he can't hear anything. It's
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Speaker 1: just silent. There's no one there. And then he goes
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Speaker 1: back into his apartment shuts it, both the doors shut,
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Speaker 1: and out of the corner of his eye he spots
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Speaker 1: what looks like a man in his bedroom, basically just
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Speaker 1: walking past the doorframe into his bedroom, and it totally
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Speaker 1: startles him. His dog starts growling and looking in the
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Speaker 1: direction of the bedroom, and so he walks over there
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Speaker 1: and looks in his bedroom and there's nothing there. He
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Speaker 1: flips on all the lights. He looks around and he's like,
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Speaker 1: what's going on here? Like it totally totally scared him.
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Speaker 1: So Joe had only been in this apart meant for
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Speaker 1: about three weeks. And one of the things he had
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Speaker 1: kind of developed a habit doing was in the evenings,
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Speaker 1: he would take his dog Fred for a walk along
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Speaker 1: the driveway that was well lit, and the driveway was
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Speaker 1: pretty long, it is the big piece of property, and
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Speaker 1: he would take his dog.
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Speaker 2: Up to the end of the driveway and then walk back.
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Speaker 1: And because of what he's just witnessed with the knocking
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Speaker 1: in the door and what looked like someone in his apartment,
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Speaker 1: he decides he just wants to clear his.
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Speaker 2: Head and go on a walk with his dog.
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Speaker 1: And he figured he could maybe swing by the main
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Speaker 1: house and see if the lights were on in Rob
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Speaker 1: and Vicky's house, because in some way, maybe if their
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Speaker 1: lights were on, it would indicate that maybe they had
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Speaker 1: been over and had been knocking on his door, and
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Speaker 1: tomorrow he'll find out what it was about. Like he's
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Speaker 1: searching for a way to rationalize this, and he notices
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Speaker 1: right away that Vicky and Rob's house is totally dark.
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Speaker 2: They're asleep. He doesn't make it very far when his
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Speaker 2: dog stops.
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Speaker 1: The dog starts taking off into the tree line, and
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Speaker 1: before Joe actually takes off after his dog, he looks
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Speaker 1: up and he breaks out through some of the lights over.
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Speaker 2: The driveway that there is a man in red with a.
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Speaker 1: Red T shirt that's at the edge of the forest
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Speaker 1: and his back is turned and he's walking into the forest,
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Speaker 1: and as Joe's looking, it looks like the man in
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Speaker 1: red actually disappears, and so the dog is heading straight
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Speaker 1: for this man in red, and so Joe, because it's
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Speaker 1: his dog, he loves his dog, he starts running after
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Speaker 1: the dog, even though he's absolutely terrified of what's gonna
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Speaker 1: happen here. He couldn't let his dog get harmed. So
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Speaker 1: he chases into the woods, makes it like a few
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Speaker 1: feet into the woods, where he finds his dog that's
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Speaker 1: now not barking and is actually facing back out at Joe, and.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of cowering looking at where Joe.
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Speaker 1: Is now standing, and Joe kind of begins to turn,
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Speaker 1: and the man in red is standing right next to him,
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Speaker 1: looking directly at Joe, and Joe just panics and starts
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Speaker 1: running out, doesn't stop to do anything. The dog follows
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Speaker 1: Joe and they run back to Joe's apartment, run upstairs,
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Speaker 1: shut the door, shut the blinds, lock everything, and.
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Speaker 2: They just sit there.
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Speaker 1: For the rest of the night, Joe is literally checking
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Speaker 1: his window and looking outside because he doesn't know if
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Speaker 1: he just saw that or not. Because that person in
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Speaker 1: red had vanished a minute ago, he thought that perhaps
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Speaker 1: he was convincing himself that he saw someone in red
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Speaker 1: because he had just seen like a ghost in his
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Speaker 1: apartment like a few minutes earlier, and he's starting to
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Speaker 1: think that maybe he's just kind of hallucinating all this stuff,
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Speaker 1: or that he's imagining all this stuff. So he wasn't
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Speaker 1: quite prepared to go tell Rob and Vicky or do
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Speaker 1: anything about it. So we just spent the night basically
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Speaker 1: looking at his window and making sure no one was
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Speaker 1: coming into his residence again. And so the next morning
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Speaker 1: goes and tells Rob and Vicki what happened the night before,
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Speaker 1: everything from the knocking on the door, to the person
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Speaker 1: that he thought he saw inside of his apartment to
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Speaker 1: then ultimately the man in red that his dog chased after.
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Speaker 1: As he's telling them about this exchange with the man
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Speaker 1: in red, Vicky is getting pretty emotional and Vicky is, like,
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Speaker 1: I saw a man in red, and she points to
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Speaker 1: the area of their property and it's the same area
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Speaker 1: that Joe had just been describing where this had all happened.
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Speaker 1: She was like, I saw him in in red right
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Speaker 1: over there, Like what's going on. So that night, Joe
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Speaker 1: is in his apartment and Joe is definitely on edge
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Speaker 1: about what had happened the night before. He's increasingly almost
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Speaker 1: listening for noises outside because of how scary the night
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Speaker 1: before was, and he foregoes his walk on the driveway
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Speaker 1: with his dog. I think he's pretty much done doing
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Speaker 1: that after that encounter. And as he's in his apartment,
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Speaker 1: he hears knocking on the door again and he yells
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Speaker 1: who's at the door, and no answer, but the knocking continues,
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Speaker 1: and it's one of those knockers. It's the actual knocker
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Speaker 1: on the outside of the door that's being hit over
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Speaker 1: and over again. He can see the door actually shaking
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Speaker 1: from how hard this is being banged against the door.
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Speaker 1: And finally, after like poking his head out and seeing
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Speaker 1: no one, he rips the door open and no one's there,
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Speaker 1: and he looks at the door itself and the knocker
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Speaker 1: is perpendicular to the ground like someone's holding it up,
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Speaker 1: but no one's there, and as he's looking at it,
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Speaker 1: it swings down and knocks the door one last time.
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Speaker 1: He slams the door shut, locks it, and he's absolutely petrified.
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Speaker 1: He sees the doorknob on the door start to turn.
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Speaker 1: He can hear the sound of the spring tightening as
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Speaker 1: the doorknob slowly turns all the way.
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Speaker 2: Over into the open position.
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Speaker 1: The door's locked, but the doorknob has been twisted, and
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Speaker 1: he's looking at the door, and then there's silence after
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Speaker 1: the doorknobs being held in the call it open position,
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Speaker 1: and then all.
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Speaker 2: Of a sudden, it bursts open, breaking the lock.
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Speaker 1: No one's outside, and he looks at it and he's
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Speaker 1: absolutely frozen for a second, and then he just runs
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Speaker 1: out of his apartment to see who is doing this.
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Speaker 2: No one's there.
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Speaker 1: When he turns around and looks into his apartment, he
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Speaker 1: sees a man in white, not in red, who is
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Speaker 1: soaked head to toe, screaming and running towards him, who
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Speaker 1: runs out of the apartment, passed him and vanishes into
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Speaker 1: the air, and so he takes off. Joe, not sticking around, Grabstog,
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Speaker 1: runs to Robin Vickie's and he goes in.
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Speaker 2: And tells them what happened.
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Speaker 1: Joe, Rob and Vicki are so scared that now they're
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Speaker 1: not even they're not trying to rationalize.
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Speaker 2: That this wasn't a ghost.
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Speaker 1: Let's say they're trying to convince themselves that this is
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Speaker 1: a friendly ghost, that these are the victims of Herbert
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Speaker 1: Baumeister that have been tormented by Baumeister. But they're here
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Speaker 1: because they're trapped here. That man you saw in your apartment,
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Speaker 1: you know, that was a victim of Herbert Baummeister, escaping
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Speaker 1: from Herbert Baummeister. You know, the man in red that
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Speaker 1: was a victim of Herbert Baumeister. We're dealing with the
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Speaker 1: victims here because so many people had their lives snuffed
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Speaker 1: out here and so there it isn't really calming them,
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Speaker 1: but it's like they're creating a narrative that fits what's happening,
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Speaker 1: because without a story, this is impossible to understand, and
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Speaker 1: so they really start to believe that what they're experiencing
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Speaker 1: is a haunting, but it is of Herb Baumeister's victims
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Speaker 1: basically acting out their final moments or kind of leading
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Speaker 1: them to you.
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Speaker 2: Know, what happened to these victims.
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Speaker 1: And so that night, Joe, Rob and Vicki start going
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Speaker 1: online and researching who the victims were, the known victims
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Speaker 1: of her Boummeinster, and there's images of all of these
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Speaker 1: different victims, and as they're scrolling through all the pictures,
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Speaker 1: Joe stops them on one and he goes, that's the
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Speaker 1: guy that was in my apartment and looks exactly like
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Speaker 1: the guy that was soaking wet, screaming that ran.
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Speaker 2: Out of my apartment.
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Speaker 1: Like that confirms this is a confirmation to the three
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Speaker 1: of them that the entity they're experiencing in this property
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Speaker 1: is definitely the victims. So they do feel reassured at
17:34
Speaker 1: this point, scared, but reassure that these are the victims.
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Speaker 1: And so they start really aggressively researching the Baumeister case
17:42
Speaker 1: and they come to realize that there's actually a number
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Speaker 1: of victims more than likely that have not been uncovered,
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Speaker 1: that have been buried on this property, only lending in
17:51
Speaker 1: their mind more credibility to the idea that this is
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Speaker 1: a property that is haunted by the victims of her Bounmeinster.
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Speaker 1: And so, after a couple of days there isn't much activity,
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Speaker 1: Joe decides to go for a walk in the woods
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Speaker 1: in the same area where the man in Red had
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Speaker 1: been seen by Vicki and by himself a couple days earlier,
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Speaker 1: and he just decides, you know, in broad daylight, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go for a walk with my dog out in
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Speaker 1: the woods, and so he starts walking in that direction
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Speaker 1: and literally sitting on the leaves, like practically on the trail.
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Speaker 2: In plain sight, is a human bone.
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Speaker 1: It's a femur bone, just sitting on the trail.
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Speaker 2: Like.
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Speaker 1: The idea that that bone wouldn't have been located during
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Speaker 1: the extensive search for bones on this property is nearly impossible.
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Speaker 1: To Joe, the way he described it is, I feel
18:40
Speaker 1: like that bone was left there for me to discover it,
18:44
Speaker 1: that the man in Red, who was more than likely
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Speaker 1: a victim of her Baummeister, had led us, had led
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Speaker 1: me to finding that bone. And so they believed, Joe,
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Speaker 1: Rob and Vicki that when they send this bone in
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Speaker 1: for forensic analysis, that they'll determine that this was another
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Speaker 1: victim that perhaps hasn't been identified yet, and they're kind
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Speaker 1: of expecting it to be the man in Red, whoever
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Speaker 1: that was, And so they end up calling Rob ends
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Speaker 1: up calling the lead detective from the Bawmeister case and says, hey,
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Speaker 1: we found a bone, and so they submit that and
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Speaker 1: they take it in his evidence. And Rob asked the
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Speaker 1: lead investigator if he would mind coming to the property
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Speaker 1: and just kind of explaining to them, you know, where
19:25
Speaker 1: things occurred on the property relative to the Baumeister case.
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Speaker 1: Where did all the tragedy unfold, like where were people buried?
19:33
Speaker 1: Just to give us a sense of what we're dealing
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Speaker 1: with here. And so the investigator agrees, and the investigator
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Speaker 1: comes out, and the vast majority of the killings happened
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Speaker 1: in the swimming pool where Baumeister would basically lure young
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Speaker 1: men to come to his property to go swimming, and
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Speaker 1: as soon as they got in the pool, he would
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Speaker 1: strangle him to death. And the weird thing about the
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Speaker 1: pool area is that Baumeister was well a psychopath and
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Speaker 1: was he had put manniche all over the inside of
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Speaker 1: this swimming pool that had like party outfits on and
20:05
Speaker 1: so there are these very eerie pictures of the swimming
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Speaker 1: pool with like mannequins all around the outside, and it's
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Speaker 1: it was basically a place where he lured his victims
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Speaker 1: and ended their lives. A couple days later, Joe is
20:16
Speaker 1: in his apartment, and you know, he's doing some work
20:19
Speaker 1: at his computer, and he hears a metallic scraping sound
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Speaker 1: coming from his kitchen, and so he goes over to
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Speaker 1: his kitchen and he finds that all of the knives
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Speaker 1: that were in his butcher's block have been pulled out
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Speaker 1: and lined up neatly in the bottom of his sink,
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Speaker 1: like very neatly arranged.
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Speaker 2: And he's looking at it, like, I didn't.
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Speaker 1: Do that, And he turns towards his workstation, like as
20:41
Speaker 1: if to look around the room, and he notices on
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Speaker 1: the island that sits where he was standing right in
20:47
Speaker 1: front of him, a little bit low down, like halfway
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Speaker 1: up to the island, there was all these fresh cut
20:53
Speaker 1: marks in the wood, like quite like a number of
20:55
Speaker 1: cut marks across the wood. And he's looking at that,
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Speaker 1: and he's thinking to himself, is one of the victims
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Speaker 1: telling me that, you know, perhaps they had been attacked
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Speaker 1: with a knife right here in the kitchen. He's thinking,
21:07
Speaker 1: like it's his duty to try to figure out which
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Speaker 1: victim this was and what happened to them, and so
21:14
Speaker 1: and so he gets the iPhone out and he turns
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Speaker 1: on the voice recorder and he starts recording and asking
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Speaker 1: some questions of the room. And he make first make
21:22
Speaker 1: sure to turn off the TV, turn off the acs.
21:24
Speaker 1: It's quiet, and so with his recorder he starts asking like,
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Speaker 1: who's anybody here? And there's silence, and he's like, who
21:31
Speaker 1: was the person in the kitchen? Who was walking through
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Speaker 1: the kitchen? And there's silence. And then when he asks
21:36
Speaker 1: again about was there anybody in the kitchen, his dog
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Speaker 1: starts growling and reacting to something in the room. And
21:44
Speaker 1: now Joe hasn't heard anything. He's not heard any confirmation
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Speaker 1: that you know, there's someone in the room. He actually
21:51
Speaker 1: felt quite silly doing it. He takes his phone back
21:53
Speaker 1: to his computer because he takes his dog growling is
21:56
Speaker 1: maybe somehow confirmation that there was something there. And he
21:59
Speaker 1: down loads the audio file and he listens to it.
22:02
Speaker 1: And as he's listening to the file, right after he
22:05
Speaker 1: asks about the is there anybody in the kitchen, he
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Speaker 1: gets a response.
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Speaker 2: Who keeps walking in the kitchen? Who's in the kitchen?
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Speaker 2: The married one?
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Speaker 1: And so as Joe is looking through all their files,
22:20
Speaker 1: he's seeing that every single victim was single. No one's married.
22:25
Speaker 1: They're all young men who are single. The only one
22:28
Speaker 1: who was married involved in this case was none other
22:32
Speaker 1: than the serial killer himself, Herb Balmeister. And so Joe
22:37
Speaker 1: has had this revelation and it's when he realizes that
22:41
Speaker 1: it's not just the victims here, Herb Balwmeister, the serial
22:44
Speaker 1: killer himself is haunting this property. So I'd love to
22:48
Speaker 1: hear what you think is going on at Fox Hollow Farm,
22:52
Speaker 1: whether this is a haunting with Herb Bowmeister himself showing
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Speaker 1: himself and speaking on audio files, or if there's a
23:00
Speaker 1: just a big hoax.
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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what you think.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much guys for sticking around till the
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