Latest / Finding God at Work / 12: More Resources on Faith and Politics
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- 0:05(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:07This is Finding God at Work.
- 0:14Just a reminder that Finding God at Work
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- 0:18course.
- 0:19Check it out at FindingGodAtWork.org.
- 0:28We are bringing to a close our current
- 0:31series with this episode.
- 0:32That series is Take a Stand, Faithful Political
- 0:35Witness at Work.
- 0:37And at the very beginning of the series,
- 0:39in the first episode, I ended with a
- 0:41couple of verses from Proverbs chapter 3.
- 0:44So in this episode, I want to come
- 0:45back to those verses, just do a little
- 0:47bit of a meditation on them, and then
- 0:49actually spend a good chunk of the episode
- 0:51talking about resources if you want to go
- 0:53further.
- 0:54So kind of pointing you to leaders and
- 0:56thinkers who are smarter and wiser than I
- 0:58am, if you have more questions about how
- 1:01to practice discipleship to Jesus in a faithful
- 1:04way in the political arena, including when politics
- 1:07comes to the workplace.
- 1:09Okay, so first our meditation here.
- 1:11The verses are chapter 3, verses 33 and
- 1:1534 from Proverbs.
- 1:18The Lord's curse is on the house of
- 1:19the wicked, but he blesses the dwelling of
- 1:22the righteous.
- 1:24Toward the scorners he is scornful, but to
- 1:26the humble he gives favor.
- 1:30Okay, there's actually a lot packed in to
- 1:35just those couple little verses.
- 1:37I want to start with the last phrase
- 1:39actually, but to the humble he gives favor.
- 1:43Let's have humility be our first posture when
- 1:46it comes to politics.
- 1:48Often it's just the opposite in our society.
- 1:51Politics is an area where people condemn one
- 1:53another, where people speak with great self-righteousness,
- 1:56where people are very willing to judge others
- 1:58because of their views.
- 1:59Let's start with the humility that Jesus modeled
- 2:03for us.
- 2:04Let's be his disciples.
- 2:06Let's imitate him, and let's remember that toward
- 2:09the scorners he is scornful, that the Lord
- 2:11holds people accountable, not just for their opinions,
- 2:15but also for the attitude they have towards
- 2:16other human beings, including other human beings with
- 2:19whom they disagree.
- 2:20So we don't want to have an attitude
- 2:21of being scornful even towards those people who
- 2:25we deeply disagree with about significant issues.
- 2:28God is scornful towards the scorners, but to
- 2:31the humble he gives favor.
- 2:34So let's have that humility be our posture.
- 2:37Okay, now the other part of this verse
- 2:39is what God does.
- 2:41So the Lord's curse is on the house
- 2:43of the wicked, but he blesses the dwelling
- 2:46of the righteous.
- 2:47This is a statement of God's ultimate justice.
- 2:51There's a way in which God ministers this
- 2:52now in the present.
- 2:54There's also an ultimate sense that God's justice
- 2:56will someday reach its fullness, its culmination.
- 3:00And we know as disciples of Jesus, that
- 3:02will be when Jesus returns.
- 3:03We talked about that in our episode on
- 3:05hope, that we have a vision of the
- 3:07future that Jesus will bring that kind of
- 3:09qualifies and tempers the amount of hope we
- 3:13put in political matters in the present.
- 3:16The Lord's curse is on the house of
- 3:18the wicked, but he blesses the dwelling of
- 3:20the righteous.
- 3:22We can trust that God is the one
- 3:23that will ultimately put things to rights.
- 3:27God is the one that will give his
- 3:28blessing to those who are open to receive
- 3:31it and who will hold the wicked accountable,
- 3:34who will hold everyone accountable for the ways
- 3:36that they have participated in those injustices that
- 3:41plague our communities and our society.
- 3:44And again, that brings us right back to
- 3:46the gospel itself, that all of us have
- 3:48participated in those injustices.
- 3:49To some extent, all of us need grace.
- 3:52All of us need forgiveness, and we find
- 3:54that ultimately in Jesus Christ.
- 3:57When we turn to him, when we put
- 3:58our faith in him, we find that we
- 4:00can become less unjust and more just, more
- 4:03that faithful picture of someone who's prayerful, thoughtful,
- 4:07gentle, and courageous in regards to political issues
- 4:10and everything else in life.
- 4:13Okay, so let's have that be our posture.
- 4:16Humility before the Lord, confidence that the Lord
- 4:19will ultimately bring justice, and then doing our
- 4:22darndest in the meantime to promote what's good
- 4:25for everyone in our communities, especially the vulnerable.
- 4:29All right, so if you're interested in learning
- 4:31more about any of the issues we've talked
- 4:33about, I have lots of resources that I
- 4:36want to talk about.
- 4:37So this is a little bit of an
- 4:38infomercial episode from this point forward, but there
- 4:42are several thinkers, writers, organizations that have been
- 4:45really helpful to me.
- 4:47So first, how do we think about Christian
- 4:50faith and politics in general?
- 4:52Not necessarily issue by issue, but just what's
- 4:54our posture overall?
- 4:55One writer who's been helpful for me is
- 4:57Bonnie Christian.
- 4:59That's spelled with a K, K-R-I
- 5:00-S-T-I-A-N, Bonnie Christian.
- 5:03She is an editorial director and a staff
- 5:05editor at Christianity Today, so she's kind of
- 5:08their main politics person while also working on
- 5:11other things related to books, and she has
- 5:13her own writing as well, so I'll include
- 5:15a link in the show notes to her
- 5:16page at Christianity Today.
- 5:18She is interestingly a libertarian, which is not
- 5:21my political viewpoint, but she does such a
- 5:24good job of distinguishing between what is our
- 5:26core gospel value from scripture and what are
- 5:29the different perspectives that various Christians can have.
- 5:32So she has her own political perspective as
- 5:34a libertarian, but she's very self-aware about,
- 5:36okay, how much of this is my own
- 5:38philosophical thinking versus how much of this is
- 5:40that core gospel value that we all share.
- 5:43So I think she models that well, and
- 5:45she's a good exemplar of how to be
- 5:47self-aware about your own political convictions, but
- 5:49her insights are also just very valuable as
- 5:51she addresses specific nitty-gritty issues.
- 5:55Another thinker who I really value is Michael
- 5:57Ware, and Michael comes from a different part
- 6:00of the political spectrum, so he actually served
- 6:02in the Obama administration, so not a libertarian
- 6:04administration, like a stretch of the imagination, but
- 6:08very similarly to Bonnie Christian, he really has
- 6:11a strong focus on what do we have
- 6:13at the center as disciples of Jesus.
- 6:15He's been deeply influenced by Dallas Willard, and
- 6:18so he's kind of like, if you think
- 6:20about following Jesus with some influence from Dallas
- 6:22Willard, and then you apply that to politics,
- 6:24you get Michael Ware's work.
- 6:26So I quoted from his book, The Spirit
- 6:28of Our Politics, Spiritual Formation, and the episodes
- 6:33in this series, but I encourage his other
- 6:37writing as well.
- 6:38He's also part of a group called the
- 6:40AND Campaign, which brings me to the next
- 6:42group I want to talk about, which is
- 6:43the AND Campaign.
- 6:45So the main leader over there is Justin
- 6:48Gibbony.
- 6:49He also has his own distinct political convictions.
- 6:53He's been a delegate to the DNC in
- 6:55the past, but he does a really great
- 6:57job, him, Michael Ware, others that are part
- 7:00of the campaign saying, okay, what do we
- 7:02get from the scriptures themselves?
- 7:04How can we shape our views about particular
- 7:07issues from the scriptures?
- 7:08I would also go to the AND Campaign
- 7:10specifically for the issue of abortion, so they
- 7:13call their approach on abortion the whole life
- 7:15project.
- 7:16I think it's a really good blend of
- 7:18thinking about how do we defend life in
- 7:21the womb, and how do we take seriously
- 7:24the bigger social context of why abortion seems
- 7:27attractive to people in certain crisis situations?
- 7:29How do we care about that whole social
- 7:31context in a healthy and a biblical way?
- 7:35So commend the AND Campaign to you for
- 7:37abortion specifically.
- 7:39So now we're getting into a little bit
- 7:40more like issue by issue.
- 7:41So then on the question of immigration, which
- 7:44we also looked at, I would commend to
- 7:46you the work of World Relief and specifically
- 7:48their advocacy wing.
- 7:50So World Relief is a branch of the
- 7:53National Association of Evangelicals, has worked in the
- 7:56U.S. Refugee Program, as well as serving
- 7:59other immigrants for decades.
- 8:02And the leader of their advocacy wing is
- 8:05Matt Sorens, who actually lives not far from
- 8:08me here in Aurora, Illinois, and is an
- 8:10old friend from Church Connections years ago.
- 8:12So I have a personal connection there.
- 8:14I deeply trust Matt's character, but also really
- 8:16an Irenic, thoughtful, centered insight about immigration from
- 8:21a biblical perspective.
- 8:23So his work is available at worldrelief.org
- 8:25slash advocate.
- 8:28There's a different organization that Matt and others
- 8:31have also spoken into, not World Relief, but
- 8:33specifically more policy oriented, called the Evangelical Immigration
- 8:37Table.
- 8:37And I've been familiar with their work for
- 8:39well over a decade.
- 8:41Their main thing is just getting people to
- 8:42read the Bible and the Bible verses that
- 8:45speak about immigration and helping people think about
- 8:46immigration biblically.
- 8:48So really commend their kind of reading challenge
- 8:50to you.
- 8:51It's right there on the front page of
- 8:52their website, evangelicalimmigrationtable.com, to think more deeply
- 8:57about all those Bible passages that can inform
- 8:59our thinking about immigration.
- 9:02And then food insecurity, finally we spoke to,
- 9:05I mentioned already in the episode about food
- 9:08insecurity that I'm a food banker.
- 9:10So the National Network of Food Banks Feeding
- 9:12America is a great place to go just
- 9:14for information about statistics around food insecurity, what
- 9:17is food insecurity like in your specific community,
- 9:20what are different ways that you can advocate
- 9:22and respond and help with food banks or
- 9:24food pantries in your area.
- 9:26So their website is feedingamerica.org.
- 9:29So obviously I'm a little biased there because
- 9:30that's my line of work specifically, that's the
- 9:32National Network that I'm part of.
- 9:34But if you want to look at another
- 9:35organization that's more specifically Christian, but doing similar
- 9:39work in terms of advocacy, I would recommend
- 9:42Bread for the World.
- 9:43So their website's really easy to remember, it's
- 9:45just bread.org, and they're led by Eugene
- 9:48Cho.
- 9:48So he's a pastor who I really personally
- 9:50respect.
- 9:51Before he was leading bread, he was a
- 9:54church planter and pastor doing the work of
- 9:56a local church in Seattle.
- 9:58I actually wrote him a letter when I
- 10:00was in my early 20s kind of asking
- 10:01about multi-ethnic church dynamics, and he very
- 10:05great input for me.
- 10:07So again, somebody who I trust in terms
- 10:08of his character, in terms of his Christian
- 10:10convictions.
- 10:11When he visits churches, he preaches right from
- 10:14the Bible and is deeply centered on the
- 10:16person of Jesus.
- 10:18Now again, Bread for the World is definitely
- 10:20advocating for that collaborative view.
- 10:22I talked about how Christians of Good Faith
- 10:24can disagree about what the right approach is
- 10:26to, for example, food stamps or the federal
- 10:29SNAP program.
- 10:30Bread is an organization that's definitely going to
- 10:32be supporting federal involvement in addressing food insecurity,
- 10:36but from a distinctly Christian perspective.
- 10:40So those are a few resources that hopefully
- 10:42could help you with just further reading, further
- 10:44learning.
- 10:45All of these organizations and writers are super
- 10:48accessible.
- 10:49They make their things understandable, clear.
- 10:53And then one final resource that I want
- 10:55to recommend, and this is particularly if you're
- 10:57looking for something for your church to work
- 10:59with, is the after party.
- 11:01So this is basically designed to help churches
- 11:05have good conversations about politics.
- 11:08And so it's a leader named Curtis Chang.
- 11:11His organization is called Redeeming Babel.
- 11:14And Curtis Chang, he's an alumnus of InterVarsity
- 11:17Christian Fellowship.
- 11:18He's spoken about his journey with mental health
- 11:21in a really helpful way, but he's also
- 11:22just very thoughtful about politics, social dynamics, bringing
- 11:26Christians from different perspectives together.
- 11:30His kind of introductory course that's part of
- 11:32the after party includes David French, who writes
- 11:35for the New York Times, and Russell Moore,
- 11:37who's editor-in-chief from Christianity Today.
- 11:39So again, people from different perspectives, but who
- 11:41are unified because of their faith in Jesus.
- 11:44Great resource for the local church.
- 11:45You can find that at redeemingbabel.org slash
- 11:48the-after-party.
- 11:51And again, I'll put all of these links
- 11:52in the show notes.
- 11:54Hopefully, maybe even just one of those would
- 11:56be a good next step for you.
- 11:57Maybe just pray, Holy Spirit, what could I
- 12:00become more informed about as a disciple of
- 12:02Jesus as it relates to politics?
- 12:04And as you become more informed, as you
- 12:06do your reading, as you do your study,
- 12:08as you do your reflection and your own
- 12:09thinking, the Holy Spirit will empower you to
- 12:13be prayerful, thoughtful, gentle, and courageous as you
- 12:16have these conversations in the workplace.
- 12:17So again, let's engage these issues with a
- 12:21posture of humility, with confidence that God has
- 12:24it all figured out, even when we don't,
- 12:26that he's the one that's ultimately going to
- 12:28bring justice and trust in him and trust
- 12:31in his eternal purposes.
- 12:44Amen.
- 12:46Come, Lord Jesus, make our hearts even more
- 12:49hopeful for your justice.
- 12:52Show us how to work within the imperfect
- 12:53systems and structures that we have now in
- 12:56our nation and our communities.
- 12:58Show us how to be like you in
- 13:01the way we love our neighbor as our
- 13:02service.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:02Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
- 13:03Amen.
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