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The Shlyn Show: Charles Davis · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Let's end our first episode of the off save it.
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  Speaker 1: I drooled on my silk non stop. He's a doll.
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  Speaker 1: I love my sink. Pick your mussy at the shop.
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  Speaker 1: If I say everything wrong, I'm clearing me. And it
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  Speaker 1: was the best day of my life. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Slim Show podcast presented by by Star, where we're not
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  Speaker 1: afraid to mess up, We're not afraid to have a
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  Speaker 1: little fun. Come on, and now this episode we'll be
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  Speaker 1: talking to basically the kindest man alive. Charles Davis was CBS.
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  Speaker 1: He always takes the time to give us insights around
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  Speaker 1: the NFL combine, in the draft, and now he's in
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  Speaker 1: the booth and will be the analyst this Sunday when
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers take on the Jaguars. So, Charles, last time
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  Speaker 1: we spoke and saw each other in person, which is
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  Speaker 1: such a strange concept. Now was very hit the Scotting
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  Speaker 1: scouting combine. You're talking all about who the Jags are
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  Speaker 1: taken at nine and twenty and had no idea what
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  Speaker 1: was coming of this season. So how has it been
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  Speaker 1: treating you and how much has football changed for you
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  Speaker 1: right now? You know, I would say we're all essentially
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  Speaker 1: in the same boat right, Um, depending on what your
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  Speaker 1: job is, what your what your casks are. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a player and a coach, it changed the way that
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  Speaker 1: you prepare for the season, whether it's your workouts as
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  Speaker 1: a player and you're you know, O, T A s
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  Speaker 1: and mini camps went away, and as a coach not
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  Speaker 1: being able to see the people that you drafted, signed
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  Speaker 1: as free agents brought back from the year before, from
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  Speaker 1: the end of last season until training camp in July.
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  Speaker 1: So that changed a lot of that. And of course
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  Speaker 1: the offseason preparation with zoom for us as people who
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  Speaker 1: cover the game, probably the same thing. We lost contact
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  Speaker 1: as well, so were there not they didn't get contact
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  Speaker 1: all that time, they re established contact, but essentially for us,
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  Speaker 1: our contact is still this way. So you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure for you and and the rest of the team
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  Speaker 1: there with the Jacksonville Jaguars meeting the new rookies right,
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  Speaker 1: the free agent signings, the people who have been brought
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  Speaker 1: in right, all of that, I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 1: actually met a lot of them in person. In a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cases the answer is no. And if you did,
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  Speaker 1: it was socially distanced. They were at a microphone way
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  Speaker 1: way away, you're not getting the same normal interactions that
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  Speaker 1: you would from before. But we're all in the same boat.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty other thirty one other teams are an exact same spot.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone in the broadcasting business is in an exact same spot.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, none of us are complaining. We're actually
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  Speaker 1: consider ourselves fortunate that we have an NFL season going on, because,
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  Speaker 1: let's face at Ashland, how many people do we know
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  Speaker 1: that we have family, friends, acquaintances. Because of this pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: many people we know lost a lot of what they have.
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  Speaker 1: We're fortunate enough we're in a business that was able
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  Speaker 1: to continue on. I could not agree more. Very thankful
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  Speaker 1: there's still football here because I don't know what I
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  Speaker 1: would be doing every single day. This is it, This
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  Speaker 1: is all I got. Well, Charles, you are calling the
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  Speaker 1: game on Sunday, Pittsburgh Steelers and Jaguars and undefeated Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: Steelers Jaguars eight game losing streak. But I catch myself
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  Speaker 1: because people have asked me what I think about this game,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to sound like a Homer and
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  Speaker 1: you know, the team reporter. There's just always something about
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  Speaker 1: this game that is passionate. It always comes down to
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  Speaker 1: the wire. That Jaguars are always in it. So I
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  Speaker 1: find myself optimistic this week. Is that crazy? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's crazy for this reason. You know, when you
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  Speaker 1: go through the season and you see this Jacksonville Jaguars team,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen one in eight that is more than ready
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  Speaker 1: for the next season. Right, We've seen those teams in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, you you can spot on really a
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  Speaker 1: mile away, and and if you can't, when you get closer,
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  Speaker 1: you can smell it. They're like, oh yeah, you can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for next season. But this is a Jaguars team
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  Speaker 1: that took Green Bay to the wire last week. I
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  Speaker 1: think that you know, four games this year they've either
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  Speaker 1: led or been right there in the fourth quarter. They
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  Speaker 1: have not given up on coach Doug Moron and their staff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have not folded tent. They have not
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  Speaker 1: you know, said okay, enough of this. And when you
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  Speaker 1: look at what they've dealt with your second year quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Rookie sixth rounder, he's got to play now, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know your your your wide receiver in the second round.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm crazy about Labisca Chenaltha, you know, blows a
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  Speaker 1: hand me a couple of games ago. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: just go right down the line obviously find that James
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  Speaker 1: Robinson has just been an incredible revelation for everyone. But
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  Speaker 1: this team has not given up. It is not quitted
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  Speaker 1: as fought. And I know that sounds a little pollyannish,
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  Speaker 1: but when I prepare for a game and I have
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  Speaker 1: a team that is one in eight as something I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna check pretty closely. And don't forget this is a
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh team that while they're undefeated last two ball games,
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  Speaker 1: they've had to come from depths. It's of ten points
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  Speaker 1: or more to win one of them. You would expect.
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  Speaker 1: That was at Baltimore, second one at Dallas. None of
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  Speaker 1: us saw that coming. We thought every time for Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: just boots to Dallas. This was the year, and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: So who knows what's what's going to happen. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: how it's going to present. So so we're gonna look
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  Speaker 1: forward to it. And Mike Tomlin, the head coach of Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: I think you saw his press conference on I guess
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  Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, where he said, you know something, we approach
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  Speaker 1: every game we're playing professionals. This is not the biggest.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a Big ten team versus a MAC team,
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  Speaker 1: and you know how the teams are like, hey, what
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  Speaker 1: do we do? You know, we beat some big tens
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  Speaker 1: along the way, But we understood his point. His point
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  Speaker 1: is in the NFL, these are all pros. Man, these guys.
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  Speaker 1: There's a slipper of difference there. The reason they called
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  Speaker 1: a seven point league because almost every game is going
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  Speaker 1: to come down to a touchdown or stuff. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you deal with. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting and interesting
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  Speaker 1: because it always is. And I, at least I have
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  Speaker 1: a hard time at times because you have the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: fans that watch all the programs and they get it.
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  Speaker 1: They want that franchise quarterback and they're fighting with the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: They want that Trevor Lawrence at number one pick. But
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  Speaker 1: then when you're in it and you see the efforts
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  Speaker 1: and the coaching staff not getting up like you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to balance because there are two interests. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you've covered the league for so
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  Speaker 1: long and you get it. When you're in this, you
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  Speaker 1: want to win. It doesn't matter about next season. But
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  Speaker 1: you also see the other side of Jaguars stands saying hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't mess with our draft picks now totally. And we
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  Speaker 1: go through a right ashland every year when you and
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  Speaker 1: I are able to talk, and I always look forward
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  Speaker 1: to that at the combine prior to the draft. There
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  Speaker 1: is that part of football where there's the excitement of
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  Speaker 1: okay to the new toys. We get done wrapped right.
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  Speaker 1: It's our holiday season where the people are gonna get
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  Speaker 1: us back to where we expect to be. There's still
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  Speaker 1: remembrance of a f C title game, one bad call
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  Speaker 1: away from going to the super Bowl that wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: long ago. But it's amazing how many people are different
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  Speaker 1: on the team already. It doesn't take long in this league.
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  Speaker 1: So you can build up fast, you can tear down fast,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why all of that is part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I would just say stay within state. Look at
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  Speaker 1: Miami and all year long last year. What was the
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  Speaker 1: talk prior to the season And as the season went on,
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  Speaker 1: tank for two of the twa gets hurt. The Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: kept fighting under Brian Floor, as they kept scratching and clawing,
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  Speaker 1: they won some games and their fans were like, oh no, no,
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  Speaker 1: don't win these games. And a five, and everybody's like,
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  Speaker 1: I could get our guy, and Joe Burrow emerged, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't have a better matchup of an Ohio kid
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  Speaker 1: going to an Ohio based team. It's Sinnati. So he
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  Speaker 1: goes at one. Now you get a chance to get
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  Speaker 1: the guy you thought you would get in the first place,
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  Speaker 1: but he got hurt. Do we take him? Do we
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  Speaker 1: not do? What do we do? The Miami Dolphins held
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  Speaker 1: in there and at five they still got their guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying the same thing happens about Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I do think there's something
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  Speaker 1: too fighting scratching klawin trying to win as many games
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  Speaker 1: as possible and build for the future, and you end
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  Speaker 1: up somehow getting maybe not the person you thought you
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  Speaker 1: would get, but maybe you get the right person who
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  Speaker 1: knows you met in the middle there and hey, it
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  Speaker 1: seems to be working out for the Dolphins. So actually,
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  Speaker 1: you remember when they took him at five. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: If it had been a year before, it would have
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  Speaker 1: been unanimous acclaim right as an injury. The severity of it.
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  Speaker 1: We hadn't seen him in the off season. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are thinking it was a gamble and they
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  Speaker 1: maybe should have taken Justin Herbert right at five. Herbert
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  Speaker 1: goes six to the Chargers. This is one of those
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  Speaker 1: unusual years, actually, when we got three quarterbacks taken in
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  Speaker 1: the first round in the top six picks, and all
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  Speaker 1: three look like they're gonna pan out and be ten
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  Speaker 1: year starters in the league. And that rarely happens when
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  Speaker 1: you're picking quarterbacks, right, And that kind of because we,
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  Speaker 1: of course are already looking ahead to next year, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of seems like that's now the trend with college
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  Speaker 1: football is even next year, you have all of these
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks being talked about, and of course Trevor Lawrence is
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  Speaker 1: at the top of that. But I'm sure come scouting Colmbine,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be there and we're gonna talk to you about
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  Speaker 1: names that we don't even know right now. That is
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  Speaker 1: so true, right, and they're already starting to emerge, even
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  Speaker 1: in a truncated college season, Right, do they play this week?
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  Speaker 1: Don't they They're all three weeks now they come back
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  Speaker 1: and play with But we're seeing names emerged. So Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: of course, right, the kid at Ohio State is obviously
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  Speaker 1: going to be a major topic of discussion in justin fields.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Trash right here in state in Florida. Don't tell
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  Speaker 1: me he's not getting on the radar, and people are going, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: we need to take this kid. This kid's throwing four
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns in his sleep before he rolls out of bed
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  Speaker 1: every game. Um. And so you know Mac Jones at Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: whoever Scott, he's got to be play tool and what's
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  Speaker 1: he gonna do? And now we're talking about being a
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  Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy candidate, So you're right about that. By the
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  Speaker 1: time we get to the combine, those names trade lands
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  Speaker 1: at North Dakota State, plenty of others. So whether you
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  Speaker 1: have the first pick, the second pick, the fifth pick, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I think there will be quarterbacks available that people would
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  Speaker 1: would have in heavy consideration. I love it. And we
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  Speaker 1: gotta stick with quarterbacks here because that is all anyone
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  Speaker 1: wants to talk about. Here. In Jacksonville, you have Jake
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  Speaker 1: Luton right now going into his third start. Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately fractured in his thumb. Do you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: have enough sample size of Gardner Minshew? Because there are
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  Speaker 1: some Jaguars fans that do or die want him back
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  Speaker 1: in the game no matter what. But do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like you know what he is? I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: do because I watched him through his time in college.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that part helps me. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of NFL play, you never really haven't quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote enough sample size. But we've seen what he can do.
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  Speaker 1: Do you decide to build with him and go That's
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  Speaker 1: a big question for Dave called Well in the front
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  Speaker 1: office and everyone else that goes along. Jake Lewton of course,
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  Speaker 1: getting him in the sixth round again, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: like Minshew, another guy that looked like a complete project,
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  Speaker 1: the whole deal. Now he's gonna come in and play.
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  Speaker 1: He won't get enough sample size if indeed they go
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  Speaker 1: back to Minshew. Let's say next week, let's say Menshow
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  Speaker 1: is able to play. We don't know yet right, um,
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  Speaker 1: we won't have enough sample size, but they're getting a
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  Speaker 1: good view of him. That sort of a deal. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be honest, Ashland, I don't think either one of them
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  Speaker 1: at this stage, no matter how the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: season plays, is gonna lock it down enough that Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: won't be evaluating quarterbacks. They have to. They've got to
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  Speaker 1: do due diligence and evaluate, see where they are in
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  Speaker 1: the draft, go through all of them and make a
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  Speaker 1: firm decision. Look, let's be honest about it. Did any
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  Speaker 1: of us know Blake Bortles is gonna get called with
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  Speaker 1: the third pick that year? From Dave called? Well? Boy?
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  Speaker 1: Did he keep that under wraps right? People can say
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  Speaker 1: whatever they want. A f C championship game with Blake Bortles,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, however you want to cut it,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work out in the long run. Took the
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  Speaker 1: guy at three, so quarterbacks will be in consideration. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, Minshoe, there's something about him there just is
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  Speaker 1: you can't take your eyes off of him, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times he plays to that level. Lewton's first
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  Speaker 1: start was a revelation for everyone. And then last week
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  Speaker 1: in tough weather conditions against a good team, not a
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  Speaker 1: surprising numbers, weren't that great? Happens you know, listen, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how he progresses and see, I
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  Speaker 1: mean this is this is a top of a match
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  Speaker 1: up as it is, there's gonna be a big one
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  Speaker 1: for him because he's gonna see I would imagine Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: I guess at this stage of the season, Jacksonville won't
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  Speaker 1: wear white at home. I'm guessing, so we will see
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  Speaker 1: white jerseys with gold pants sailing at him from the
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  Speaker 1: first snapp on Sunday, because that Blitzberg thing is real.
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  Speaker 1: You know, with sixty six, sixty seven straight games with
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  Speaker 1: a sack, they're chasing down the record, which is sixty
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  Speaker 1: nine I believe by Tampa Bay. If they don't put
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  Speaker 1: people on the deck, if they're gonna to get two
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  Speaker 1: sacks in a game, they feel like they did nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And so far this season, I think it was a Denver.
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  Speaker 1: I think they pressured him nineteen times, knocked them down
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  Speaker 1: eleven times. Seven sacks. That's Pittsburgh. Oh, big game for
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, to say the least. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about you. I, of course, being
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: in broadcast, I like geek out about this stuff and
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you about this. But
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: you're relatively new to the CBS crew with Evan Washburn
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  Speaker 1: and I am Eagles, So that camaraderie, I mean that
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  Speaker 1: is so important on a broadcast and I enjoy watching
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  Speaker 1: you guys so much because you can just tell you
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  Speaker 1: guys are so close, thank you, And we've worked at that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Ian and Ian and Evan have been together
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, and you know, Dan Fouts had
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  Speaker 1: been part of their team. And look, you talk about
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of fame quarterback, Hall of fame broadcasters. So
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: when I joined the team, my father said to me,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: you know, that's been a good team for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So if anything goes, hey, why are that means you're
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  Speaker 1: the cause? Because you're the only thing is different. So God,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: God bless your what, God bless our parents. Right, they
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: keep us in in the right spot. But well, we
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: did this summer because you know, during the spring and
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: summer because of the pandemic, we couldn't see each other,
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't get together. So we did exactly what you
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: and I are doing. We went to zoom you know,
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  Speaker 1: really sessions every week where we just get to know
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: each other. And I would tell you that it was
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  Speaker 1: non football nine. How we were going to broadcast nine. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we do when we do a game.
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  Speaker 1: We're just getting to know each other, you know, and
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: you know each other could know each other's families, likes, dislikes,
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  Speaker 1: interest personalities, all of that. Then we edited in our
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: producer and director, and we started doing that with them.
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  Speaker 1: But once a week minutes we all be on a
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  Speaker 1: zoom together and just hang out. And we thought that
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: was a good way to start to try and build
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  Speaker 1: the chemistry and try to get to know each other.
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  Speaker 1: We never even actually did a rehearsal game. We never
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: even actually did that because we would have to do
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  Speaker 1: it by zoom, Like, let's get to know each other
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  Speaker 1: and let's just go in and and go. And Iron
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  Speaker 1: and Evan and the rest of the crew have just
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  Speaker 1: been wonderful, very welcoming, very you know, they're very great.
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  Speaker 1: They're great about guidance and leading me. And I'm just
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  Speaker 1: trying my best to run as fast as I can
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  Speaker 1: to catch up to these guys because they're they're there
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  Speaker 1: top of the food Chaine, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, they're two very talented guys. But it seems
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  Speaker 1: to be working out. So props to you, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that so far that as they as they said,
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  Speaker 1: Evan came to me yet so well, all right, my
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  Speaker 1: final question for you, I always wonder this because you
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: guys live in mock drafts. It seems in the off
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: season you and Daniel Jeremiah and all the likes of that,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm always reading them and it's always interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see what you pick. So when it is draft night
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and it's not going according to plan, something always shakes up,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: tear everything up and be so frustrated that you spent
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: months on this. It's a great question because it depends
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: on how you go into it. If you go into
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: it with the idea that one through thirty two, all right,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: let's just do the basics with out trades and all
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  Speaker 1: those stuff, right that it needs to mad for me
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  Speaker 1: to feel successful, needs to match up that name to
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  Speaker 1: that team. If you're gonna do that, you might as
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: well just go ahead and tear your hair out now,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: because that's just not gonna happen. Right. What you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to do is to get thirty two names in the
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  Speaker 1: first round that when it's all said and done and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I counted up, I got a pretty good number of
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  Speaker 1: those names in the first round that I identified first
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: round picks. You know that these are the guys that
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: were going to go, look, we're always gonna get the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Joshua Garnett that you go, whoa, whoa, where'd that pick?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Come from right and he goes in the first round
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: and what you know, you know, and sometimes it doesn't work,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like Joshua Garnett, and sometimes like Travis Frederick before he
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: retired last year. You probably remember ashe when the Cowboys
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: took him in the first roundybody's like, whoa, you can
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: get him in the third? What are you doing? Becomes
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: an all pro and it's all work for them. Knew
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: what they wanted, didn't care what the number, what the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: rest of the draft people said, this is our guy.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So for the most part, you're gonna have those. But
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is get that at the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: thirty two guys in the first round that you got
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: right and hopefully there are no major surprises that you go, boy,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I really really missed on that one. I was way
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: off because there are guys that I had a first
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: round grade on that didn't go. But there was stenuating circumstances.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe they were ding their senior year. You know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he didn't time quite as fast as people might have thought.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: See Laviska Chanut's one of those. To me, he was
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a first rounder all day long, but he was dinged
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit. As last year so because it was
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a heavy wide receiver year, he got pushed down. But
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I've already seen why. You know, people have thought, oh
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: my goodness, this guy. And now when he gets fully
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: healthy and they're able to get movement, I think people
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: will say, yeah, that was a first round talent. All
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: day long for Shure, We're hoping from big things from
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that guy. Well, Charles, thank you so so much. You know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: ever appreciate you letting me come on your show. I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: really appreciate. It's always fun to talk with you and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: pick your brain about what's going on with the team
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and the teams around the league. And I appreciate your
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: insight and your expertise. So thank you so much, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: we'll make sure we keep that going. You know you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get that call from me going help me. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: need to help. Let's go on. Be honored. I would
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: be honored for that call. I'll always answered. We'll have
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a great game on Sunday. All right, Thank you, Ash,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Appreciate you, Charles Davis. I told you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: guys he was a gem. We'll have marsh Lynn Show
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: coming at you in the next few weeks. But always,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm thankful for Joe Fortunato, our producer, for making this
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the best podcast ever. See you next time.