Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Hank Sheinkopf | Veteran Political Consultant Speaks on 2026 Midterm Elections & "Blue Tsunami"
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hank Shankoff, good morning, buddy. How are you?
- 0:02Speaker 2: Thank you, Sid.
- 0:03Speaker 3: It's a wonderful morning to wake up in America.
- 0:06Speaker 1: No, it's not. What are you, nuts?
- 0:08Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
- 0:09Speaker 2: You know why? Why?
- 0:11Speaker 3: Because what happened yesterday is not necessarily the greatest thing
- 0:14Speaker 3: in the world, but it tells you that people, when
- 0:16Speaker 3: they vote, take action. And this is a message to
- 0:19Speaker 3: Democrats the same way it was a message to Republicans
- 0:22Speaker 3: that people are just pissed off. And if these guys
- 0:25Speaker 3: don't perform, they're going to meet the same fate that
- 0:27Speaker 3: everybody met yesterday.
- 0:28Speaker 4: Well, they're not going to, but they're not going to perform.
- 0:30Speaker 4: I mean, look, let me give you the governor, for example.
- 0:33Speaker 4: How did she have any right I mean, I know
- 0:36Speaker 4: she was going to win. You had to be an
- 0:37Speaker 4: idiot to really think Boosie was going to win.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Let's be honest. OK, I love Boosie. We had a
- 0:40Speaker 1: great campaign, but she's not losing in this state. Bottom line.
- 0:43Speaker 1: But what has she done?
- 0:45Speaker 4: What has she done to deserve a victory by one point,
- 0:48Speaker 4: let alone 10?
- 0:49Speaker 2: What? What has any of these people done overall?
- 0:53Speaker 3: Look around the country. What is Tallarico's great claim in Texas?
- 0:57Speaker 3: What about the guys in Kansas and Nebraska? And I mean,
- 1:01Speaker 3: the Democrat win is not about the Democrats. It's about
- 1:04Speaker 3: a revolt against government overall. And politicians should pay very
- 1:08Speaker 3: clear attention. It tells you several things. The era of
- 1:11Speaker 3: the baby boomers is over. The era of patriotism is over. OK,
- 1:15Speaker 3: the sense of unity is over. The anger of the
- 1:18Speaker 3: electorate is real. And if they're going to take it,
- 1:21Speaker 3: they took it out on the Republicans, not because they
- 1:23Speaker 3: hated Republicans, because they hated Trump. And they'll do the
- 1:25Speaker 3: same thing to the Democrats starting in two years if
- 1:28Speaker 3: they don't perform. This is about holding government officials feet
- 1:32Speaker 3: to the fire. That's the lack of a better word.
- 1:34Speaker 3: I mean, look, I've worked in 44 American states and
- 1:37Speaker 3: I've worked for a president. So this is not just
- 1:40Speaker 3: about Democrats. It's about the whole political system. And it
- 1:43Speaker 3: should be a warning to Americans to wake up.
- 1:46Speaker 1: You're a lot smarter than I am.
- 1:47Speaker 4: And I think everything you said is right, except I
- 1:49Speaker 4: don't think it's a whole political message.
- 1:51Speaker 1: You just named it. It's one guy. I'm sorry.
- 1:54Speaker 4: Last night to me, and I'm still backing this guy.
- 1:56Speaker 4: I refuse to stab him in the back. I put
- 1:58Speaker 4: it on Twitter this morning. I'm being called all kinds
- 2:00Speaker 4: of horrible names. Kike, Neocon, you name it.
- 2:03Speaker 1: It's about Trump.
- 2:04Speaker 3: That's it.
- 2:04Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care. You can talk to your
- 2:06Speaker 4: blue in the face about gas prices. You can talk
- 2:09Speaker 4: about Iran, which is a problem. And I've been saying
- 2:12Speaker 4: it's a problem for months. We never won that. Still
- 2:15Speaker 4: haven't won it. Came back to bite him in the ass.
- 2:17Speaker 4: But in the end, it's about Trump. These losses last
- 2:21Speaker 4: night were both Democrats and Republicans that have had enough
- 2:25Speaker 4: with President Trump.
- 2:27Speaker 1: How could you argue that?
- 2:28Speaker 3: I'm not arguing that at all. I think you're exactly right.
- 2:31Speaker 3: What is interesting to me is the intensity of the
- 2:35Speaker 3: almost violent response to Trump. And this is beyond imagination.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Why?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Look at places where Democrats won unheard of before. The
- 2:45Speaker 3: nation had gone through a real critical realignment years ago
- 2:48Speaker 3: in the South. When Raphael Warnock, the senator from Georgia,
- 2:52Speaker 3: said the road to renewal runs to the South from
- 2:54Speaker 3: his perspective, he was right. I mean, this is a
- 2:57Speaker 3: major earthquake, and Americans should pay attention because they are angry.
- 3:01Speaker 3: And when people get angry, if that voting box doesn't
- 3:05Speaker 3: work and they can't get what they want, they're in
- 3:07Speaker 3: the streets next. That's what this is about, because the
- 3:09Speaker 3: civic culture that had people sit down and talk about
- 3:12Speaker 3: things honestly and directly and create change is over. This
- 3:16Speaker 3: was a revolt. And people should pay very careful attention.
- 3:20Speaker 3: It'll be in the streets.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I agree.
- 3:22Speaker 4: But I look at the city, for example, Hank, and
- 3:23Speaker 4: you used to live in New York City and, you know,
- 3:25Speaker 4: everybody loves you.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I get it. I love you. But here's Mom Donnie.
- 3:29Speaker 1: He's not a good person.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 3:31Speaker 1: I don't care how much he smiles and how many
- 3:34Speaker 1: people love him. I don't care. He's not a good person.
- 3:38Speaker 1: His wife is even worse. Letitia James, she's a waste,
- 3:42Speaker 1: a complete waste.
- 3:44Speaker 4: All she's done is go after Trump. Rapes all over
- 3:47Speaker 4: Central Park. A kid shot last week. A girl training
- 3:51Speaker 4: for the marathon stabbed to death. James says nothing. She
- 3:55Speaker 4: does nothing. She still talks about Trump. She wins again.
- 3:59Speaker 4: She wins easily. Hochul, you just talked about it. She's
- 4:03Speaker 4: done nothing. I mean, how do you feel good if
- 4:05Speaker 4: you live in New York City and you don't hate
- 4:08Speaker 4: President Trump?
- 4:09Speaker 1: If you hate Trump, great.
- 4:10Speaker 4: But if you don't hate President Trump, how do you
- 4:12Speaker 4: feel good about these people remaining in power?
- 4:17Speaker 2: It's not about feeling good.
- 4:18Speaker 3: That's the point, Sid. That's what's so distressing. It's not
- 4:21Speaker 3: about feeling good about any of these people. It's about
- 4:24Speaker 3: Donald Trump. It's all about Trump and the revulsion that
- 4:27Speaker 3: New Yorkers and people around the country felt about Washington.
- 4:30Speaker 3: And they see Trump as the argument. And they went
- 4:33Speaker 3: after him with an ax. This wasn't about, I don't
- 4:36Speaker 3: like you. This was about, I hate you and I
- 4:38Speaker 3: want to kill you.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I hate you and I want.
- 4:40Speaker 3: To kill you. And that's exactly what they did.
- 4:42Speaker 1: They did. I told you that last night. It's not
- 4:43Speaker 1: about gas prices.
- 4:45Speaker 4: So then if you're the Republican Party and you start
- 4:48Speaker 4: to plan now, Hank, for 2028, see, I think J.D.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Vance gets hurt, even though I don't think President Trump
- 4:54Speaker 4: picked him. I'm on record three times saying. I think
- 4:58Speaker 4: it was Trump's kid and Tucker Carlson that picked J.D. Vance.
- 5:01Speaker 1: And even though J.D.
- 5:02Speaker 4: Vance disagrees with Trump on a bunch of stuff, including Iran,
- 5:07Speaker 4: I still think J.D.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Is too close. Marco, a little separation, but any of.
- 5:12Speaker 4: These candidates who are right there with President Trump may
- 5:16Speaker 4: have big difficulties now winning in 28, unless, like you say,
- 5:21Speaker 4: the Democrats have two bad years.
- 5:23Speaker 1: But by then, it's going to be too late.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Well, the Republican Party is shattered unquestionably so. The Democrats
- 5:31Speaker 3: have gone through this in the past. The question is,
- 5:33Speaker 3: what is the Republican Party? What are either parties? If
- 5:36Speaker 3: the Democrats do nothing but spend their time whacking Trump
- 5:40Speaker 3: under leadership of Schumer in the Senate and Hakeem Jeffries
- 5:43Speaker 3: in the House, if that's what they do, they're going
- 5:46Speaker 3: to meet the same fate because the people are telling,
- 5:48Speaker 3: you know, it's less about partisanship than it is about
- 5:51Speaker 3: Trump and about telling those in power enough guys, we're
- 5:56Speaker 3: pissed off and we're not going to take anymore. It's
- 5:58Speaker 3: like the, it's like the character in network, you know, the, the,
- 6:02Speaker 3: the guy paid by Finch. I'm fed up and I'm
- 6:04Speaker 3: not going to take anymore.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I did.
- 6:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:07Speaker 3: That's what they did. This is not about ideology. This
- 6:10Speaker 3: is about Donald Trump and Medicare and Medicaid and the
- 6:13Speaker 3: cost of food and the cost of gas and the
- 6:16Speaker 3: fact that people are having problems feeding their families.
- 6:19Speaker 2: It wouldn't matter if Trump was a socialist.
- 6:20Speaker 3: They would have thrown it out and everything about it.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Let me ask you about the Democrats of.
- 6:25Speaker 4: The city, though, because a lot of people are very
- 6:28Speaker 4: upset this morning. They're telling me about Ed Cox.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I like that.
- 6:30Speaker 4: He's a good guy. And We have a good relationship.
- 6:32Speaker 4: But a lot of people are very upset. They're like,
- 6:35Speaker 4: where are the good candidates in New York?
- 6:38Speaker 1: Where are they? You know, Joe Cairo, he had a
- 6:41Speaker 1: bad day. LaPetri got killed. Janine Driscoll got killed. Bruce
- 6:44Speaker 1: got killed.
- 6:45Speaker 4: So people are really upset, even with Curtis Lee with
- 6:48Speaker 4: that last ridiculous mayoral election. People are really upset with
- 6:52Speaker 4: Republican candidates in the city and the state. What would
- 6:56Speaker 4: you say about that?
- 6:58Speaker 2: I would say that the era of the professional.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Politician has overtaken the local patriot.
- 7:04Speaker 2: And unless we bring patriotism.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Back to our politics, we're going to see more of
- 7:08Speaker 3: this kind of chaos.
- 7:09Speaker 2: It can't be.
- 7:10Speaker 3: About staying in power. It's got to be about doing
- 7:13Speaker 3: something for people. But the political industrial complex, which I've
- 7:17Speaker 3: called it on your show in the past, is taking
- 7:20Speaker 3: over our politics in a way that can do no good.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Public financing has made sure not that government is better,
- 7:26Speaker 3: but that people stay in government longer.
- 7:28Speaker 2: It's just that simple.
- 7:30Speaker 3: The growth of the political industrial complex, the amount of
- 7:34Speaker 3: money spent, the intensity of the consultant industry as its
- 7:40Speaker 3: own lobbying entity, they're going to start forming more powerful lobbies,
- 7:43Speaker 3: you can bet.
- 7:44Speaker 2: In the political industry.
- 7:45Speaker 3: Why?
- 7:45Speaker 2: Because they're making more money than they ever deemed possible.
- 7:48Speaker 3: So you have people who produce nothing that of tangible
- 7:52Speaker 3: good to the entire community, making more money by producing
- 7:55Speaker 3: more air. That kind of behavior can only result in
- 7:59Speaker 3: more revolts. You know, again, government has to do something.
- 8:03Speaker 3: You can't be talking. Joe Cairo is one of the
- 8:05Speaker 3: best people I've met in public life. He'll get past this.
- 8:09Speaker 3: They weren't going to win those congressional.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Races anyway, frankly.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Right. That's true. It wasn't going to happen. No. But
- 8:14Speaker 3: providing local services is what has to be done. And
- 8:17Speaker 3: that's the new thing that people should be focusing on
- 8:20Speaker 3: because that's the old thing that government was supposed to do.
- 8:23Speaker 2: It wasn't supposed to keep people in office for life.
- 8:26Speaker 2: It was supposed to force them to.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Perform under the threat of loss.
- 8:30Speaker 4: So in a practical conversation, if you were running the
- 8:33Speaker 4: Republican Party here in New York, not Long Island like
- 8:36Speaker 4: Joe Cairo, but at Cox's position, What would you do
- 8:39Speaker 4: moving forward to get better candidates and give New York politicians,
- 8:43Speaker 4: Republicans specifically, a chance to win?
- 8:48Speaker 3: I think you have to reorganize the parties at the
- 8:50Speaker 3: most local level. I think what you take the model
- 8:53Speaker 3: of what Jesse Garcia, the terrific chairman of Suffolk County
- 8:56Speaker 3: of the Republicans, and Joe Cairo, the extraordinarily talented chairman
- 9:00Speaker 3: of the Republican Party in Nassau and others have done,
- 9:04Speaker 3: which is they've organized to the bottom up. They found
- 9:07Speaker 3: young people and where they won, they put them in
- 9:09Speaker 3: jobs where they can get something accomplished. I think you
- 9:12Speaker 3: have to have a new a new an entirely new
- 9:14Speaker 3: framing of what a Republican is. And by doing so,
- 9:17Speaker 3: you'll reframe who the Democrats are. And they're going to
- 9:20Speaker 3: be on, people are going to be watching to see
- 9:22Speaker 3: what the Democrats do. This isn't a free ticket. This is, oh,
- 9:25Speaker 3: by the way, guys, have a nice day and do
- 9:27Speaker 3: whatever you want. We'll pay for it.
- 9:28Speaker 2: No.
- 9:29Speaker 3: The warning here is that people are saying clearly, perform
- 9:33Speaker 3: or die.
- 9:35Speaker 1: It's really that simple.
- 9:36Speaker 3: And this is very violent. Very violent.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Now, it's scary, right? I mean, last thing, what were
- 9:42Speaker 1: your thoughts when.
- 9:43Speaker 4: It became official that Abdul El-Sayed won in Michigan last night?
- 9:50Speaker 3: I'm very concerned for different reasons. I'm concerned because, obviously,
- 9:55Speaker 3: he is no friend of the Jewish people, and people
- 9:58Speaker 3: say otherwise are fools. You cannot say the things he said, like,
- 10:02Speaker 3: you know, it's okay to go and blow up, to
- 10:04Speaker 3: try to blow up a synagogue and kill people because
- 10:07Speaker 3: you were hurt in another country. By that logic, American Indians,
- 10:11Speaker 3: indigenous people should go out and murder most of the
- 10:13Speaker 3: people in Wyoming and Montana because they were hurt once. And,
- 10:16Speaker 3: you know, Catholics who have been persecuted around the world
- 10:19Speaker 3: should find those who did it and kill them. I mean,
- 10:23Speaker 3: it's idiotic logic. But what it tells you is that
- 10:26Speaker 3: there is a definite demographic shift going on in this
- 10:28Speaker 3: country that people need to pay attention to. We have
- 10:32Speaker 3: a population that is not integrated into Western political thinking,
- 10:38Speaker 3: which will frighten because they're angry. And history has to
- 10:43Speaker 3: somehow be modified. And what I mean by that is
- 10:46Speaker 3: we need to teach people the truth about what different
- 10:49Speaker 3: populations have done throughout the world. And we've got to
- 10:51Speaker 3: start to teach people to be Americans, which means we've
- 10:54Speaker 3: got to change the curriculum in our schools re-institute civic education,
- 10:58Speaker 3: and get people to function as a country rather than
- 11:00Speaker 3: a bunch of sex.
- 11:01Speaker 2: S-E-C-T-S. If we don't do that, that plus the revolt
- 11:05Speaker 2: we experienced yesterday.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Could be the demise of the greatest experiment in the
- 11:10Speaker 3: history of politics, which is the American democracy. This is
- 11:13Speaker 3: that serious.
- 11:14Speaker 4: Last one, I said last hour that with the landslide
- 11:18Speaker 4: win for the Democrats yesterday, I said this last hour,
- 11:21Speaker 4: I said, if I'm AOC, forget about Chuck Schumer, okay?
- 11:24Speaker 1: Forget about that Senate race. I'm going for it.
- 11:26Speaker 4: I know Gavin Newsom, he's thinking the same thing, and
- 11:29Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. But something tells me she's got the best
- 11:32Speaker 4: chance to win. Based upon what you saw last night,
- 11:36Speaker 4: if you were AOC, would you.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Start your presidential campaign? I'm being serious today.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I don't know, Sid, if this was about left or right.
- 11:46Speaker 2: This is about a left hook and a right jab.
- 11:49Speaker 2: It's not about left or right politics.
- 11:51Speaker 3: This is about Trump get out. and Democrats perform or else,
- 11:56Speaker 3: because the intensity of the rage was so extreme.
- 12:00Speaker 2: It's not about the left winning. It's not about that
- 12:03Speaker 2: at all. It's not about the right losing.
- 12:04Speaker 3: It's about Trump losing and people saying, stop talking, do something.
- 12:09Speaker 3: I'm sick and tired of it, and I'm not going
- 12:11Speaker 3: to tolerate it anymore.
- 12:12Speaker 2: And by the way, they said, you're next if you
- 12:15Speaker 2: don't perform.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Hank Shankoff, you're amazing. I love when you come on
- 12:19Speaker 1: this show. Willie, you really are the best. I love you.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Thank you for your job last night, too. I was
- 12:23Speaker 4: told that you spoke fluent Hebrew with Noam.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I love that.
- 12:27Speaker 1: So thank you for a great appearance, as always, this morning.
- 12:30Speaker 1: We'll do it again very soon, my friend.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Thank you, Sid. Have a wonderful day. You, too.
- 12:34Speaker 1: God bless you. What a great guy. What a brilliant man.
- 12:37Speaker 4: Hank Shankoff right here on Sid and Friends in the morning.
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- 13:06Speaker 1: A new episode so you never have to wonder. What
- 13:09Speaker 1: the heck is going on here?