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- 0:29Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Conspiracy the Show. I say
- 0:35Speaker 1: welcome back because this is part three of our deep, deep,
- 0:41Speaker 1: deep dive into the strange death of Senator Paul Wellstone.
- 0:47Speaker 1: So when we left off, we were discussing the one
- 0:51Speaker 1: criminal lead the FBI received in the wake of the
- 0:54Speaker 1: death of Paul Wellstone that it very much seems like
- 0:58Speaker 1: they did not look into that lead, being could the
- 1:02Speaker 1: Bush Cheney regime have been behind the death? You didn't
- 1:06Speaker 1: have to be the FBI to hear speculation like that
- 1:09Speaker 1: at the time. On October twenty eighth, two thousand and two,
- 1:13Speaker 1: Michael Nieman, writing for the Independent Media Institute, published an
- 1:17Speaker 1: article that was very provocatively titled was US Senator Paul
- 1:22Speaker 1: Wellstone Murdered? Here's a quote from the article. Anyone familiar
- 1:26Speaker 1: with my work knows that I'm certainly not a conspiracy theorist.
- 1:30Speaker 1: But to be honest, I know I wasn't alone in
- 1:33Speaker 1: my initial reaction at this week's horrible and tragic news,
- 1:37Speaker 1: that being my surprise that Wellstone had lived this long.
- 1:42Speaker 1: He also talks about feeling shame over not sharing his
- 1:45Speaker 1: suspicions that Wellstone's life was in danger back when Wellstone
- 1:50Speaker 1: was still alive. He didn't want to get called a
- 1:52Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. You see, he says he knew of a
- 1:56Speaker 1: few journalists who felt the same way that they suspected
- 1:59Speaker 1: Wellstone might literally die for the stances he was taking
- 2:03Speaker 1: against the Bush administration, but that they also didn't want
- 2:06Speaker 1: to risk their careers by speculating on it publicly. Here's
- 2:10Speaker 1: another quote. There is no indication today that Wellstone's death
- 2:14Speaker 1: was the result of foul play. What we do know, however,
- 2:18Speaker 1: is that Wellstone emerged as the most visible obstacle standing
- 2:23Speaker 1: in the way of a draconian political agenda by an
- 2:27Speaker 1: unelected government, and now he is conveniently gone. End quote.
- 2:33Speaker 1: So let's talk about the draconian political agenda in question there,
- 2:37Speaker 1: because I think it's important to understanding why people might
- 2:41Speaker 1: have secretly worried that Wellstone would eventually be killed. I
- 2:46Speaker 1: think it all starts with something I've mentioned on this
- 2:48Speaker 1: show before, which is the Project for the New American
- 2:52Speaker 1: Century that was established in nineteen ninety seven as a
- 2:56Speaker 1: nonprofit educational organization. Its stated goal was quote to promote
- 3:03Speaker 1: American global leadership, which right off the bat, Oh no,
- 3:08Speaker 1: the group publicly stated its belief that American leadership is
- 3:13Speaker 1: good both for America and the world, which is highly debatable,
- 3:19Speaker 1: especially when you take it in context with another stated
- 3:22Speaker 1: goal of the PNAC, which was to promote and this
- 3:26Speaker 1: is another quote, a Reaganite policy of military strength and
- 3:31Speaker 1: moral clarity. Woof, and a chill goes down the spines
- 3:35Speaker 1: of our Central American listeners. Of the twenty five people
- 3:39Speaker 1: who signed the pnac's founding Statement of Principles, ten went
- 3:46Speaker 1: on to serve in the George W. Bush administration, including
- 3:49Speaker 1: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. And if you've
- 3:54Speaker 1: ever seen the film Vice, you know what those motherfuckers
- 3:57Speaker 1: got up to in the two thousands. And if you
- 3:59Speaker 1: haven't the movie Wece, I highly recommend it, if for
- 4:03Speaker 1: no other reason than to see Dick Cheney have a
- 4:06Speaker 1: heart attack six different times comedy Gold. Anyway, the Project
- 4:12Speaker 1: for the New American Century was meant to be a
- 4:14Speaker 1: think tank to give Republicans a quote compelling vision for
- 4:19Speaker 1: American foreign policy end quote. They believed that American conservatives
- 4:24Speaker 1: were adrift in the area of foreign policy, and they
- 4:28Speaker 1: advocated a more elevated vision of America's international role. Another
- 4:33Speaker 1: quote and suggested that the United States should adopt a
- 4:36Speaker 1: stance of benevolent global hegemony. In other words, we should
- 4:41Speaker 1: police the world to make sure everyone is adhering to
- 4:44Speaker 1: our interests. A year before forming the PNAC, American neo
- 4:49Speaker 1: conservative warhawk Robert Kagan published an article called Toward a
- 4:54Speaker 1: Neo Reaganite Foreign Policy. That article posited that conservatives and
- 5:00Speaker 1: liberals alike had been conducting foreign policy in a peace
- 5:05Speaker 1: oriented manner and more inwardly focused way, presuming the public
- 5:10Speaker 1: to be in that mindset. They argued that nineties America
- 5:14Speaker 1: was in a similar situation to seventies America, where we
- 5:17Speaker 1: were oriented toward peace with the Soviet Union, and that
- 5:21Speaker 1: Reagan turned America's foreign policy orientation around instituting a more
- 5:27Speaker 1: aggressive anti communist approach. And to the people who founded
- 5:33Speaker 1: the Project for the New American Century, that's a good thing,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and that's what they wanted to return to. Fuck peace,
- 5:40Speaker 1: we should be in a constant state of fear and war.
- 5:44Speaker 1: When the PNAC was founded a year after that article,
- 5:48Speaker 1: it launched with the goal of making a very specific
- 5:51Speaker 1: dream come true, and that dream is benevolent hegemony, a
- 5:55Speaker 1: scenario in which the United States has defeated all sources
- 5:59Speaker 1: of evil in the world, and as a result, enjoys
- 6:03Speaker 1: strategic and ideological predominance throughout the globe. It had three
- 6:08Speaker 1: imperatives increased defense budget obviously, citizen involvement aka strengthening the
- 6:14Speaker 1: ties between citizens and military life, Thank you very much, NFL,
- 6:20Speaker 1: you did it. And moral clarity. Here's a quote about
- 6:23Speaker 1: that one. The United States achieved its present position of
- 6:27Speaker 1: strength not by practicing a foreign policy of live and
- 6:30Speaker 1: let live, nor by passively waiting for threats to arise,
- 6:34Speaker 1: but by actively promoting American principles of governance abroad, democracy,
- 6:40Speaker 1: free markets, respect for liberty. In case it's unclear, they're
- 6:45Speaker 1: talking about preemptive military action there, invading a country before
- 6:49Speaker 1: it can even pose a threat minority report shit. They
- 6:53Speaker 1: also added this, sometimes that means not just supporting US
- 6:57Speaker 1: friends and gently pressuring other nations, but actively pursuing policies
- 7:02Speaker 1: in Iran, Cuba, or China, for instance, ultimately intended to
- 7:07Speaker 1: bring about a change of regime. One regime change the
- 7:11Speaker 1: PNAC was especially interested in was Iraq. They advocated for
- 7:15Speaker 1: it in a nineteen ninety eight letter signed by eighteen people.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Again ten of whom went on to serve in the
- 7:21Speaker 1: Bush administration. But the project's most alarming moment happened in
- 7:26Speaker 1: two thousand, when a PNAC report called Rebuilding America's Defenses
- 7:32Speaker 1: predicted that the shift to get Saddam Hussein out of
- 7:35Speaker 1: power would come about slowly unless there were and here's
- 7:39Speaker 1: a quote, some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new
- 7:45Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor end quote. So, in case you're wondering where
- 7:49Speaker 1: all of that Bush did nine to eleven stuff started,
- 7:52Speaker 1: there you go. A year before nine to eleven happened,
- 7:56Speaker 1: the people who benefited from it the most, both politically
- 8:00Speaker 1: and financially, were writing papers about how beneficial something like
- 8:06Speaker 1: nine to eleven would be. Weird. By the time nine
- 8:09Speaker 1: to eleven happened, Dick Cheney was Vice president, Donald Rumsfeld
- 8:13Speaker 1: was Secretary of Defense, and Paul Wilfowitz was his deputy
- 8:17Speaker 1: at the Pentagon. Here's a quote about nine to eleven
- 8:19Speaker 1: from Bob Woodward's book Bush at War. The next morning,
- 8:23Speaker 1: before it was even clear who was behind the attacks,
- 8:26Speaker 1: Rumsfeld insisted at a cabinet meeting that Saddam's Iraq should
- 8:31Speaker 1: be a principal target of the first round of the
- 8:35Speaker 1: War on Terrorism, but they weren't just interested in Iraq.
- 8:39Speaker 1: General Wesley Clark mentioned the post nine to eleven atmosphere
- 8:43Speaker 1: among the PNAC laden Bush administration in an interview around
- 8:49Speaker 1: that time. He claimed he was told as early as
- 8:51Speaker 1: September twentieth, two thousand and one, that we'd be going
- 8:55Speaker 1: to war with Iraq. A few weeks later, the same source,
- 8:59Speaker 1: a military general who worked at the Pentagon, told Clark
- 9:02Speaker 1: it was actually way bigger than Iraq. Here's a quote
- 9:04Speaker 1: from Wesley Clark. So I came back to see him
- 9:07Speaker 1: a few weeks later, and by that time we were
- 9:09Speaker 1: bombing Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war
- 9:13Speaker 1: with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
- 9:16Speaker 1: He reached over on his desk. He picked up a
- 9:18Speaker 1: piece of paper and he said, I just got this
- 9:21Speaker 1: down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today,
- 9:26Speaker 1: and he said, this is a memo that describes how
- 9:29Speaker 1: we're going to take out seven countries in five years,
- 9:33Speaker 1: starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and finishing off Iran. I said, is it classified? He said, yes, Sir,
- 9:44Speaker 1: I said well, don't show it to me. End quote.
- 9:47Speaker 1: So the Bush administration didn't just come into office hoping
- 9:50Speaker 1: to take down Iraq. They had a plan to completely
- 9:53Speaker 1: rework American foreign policy and kind of the entire world.
- 9:58Speaker 1: No matter where you stand on the Bush did nine
- 10:01Speaker 1: to eleven theory, one thing we can all agree on
- 10:03Speaker 1: is that Dick Cheney and his corporate cohorts made a
- 10:07Speaker 1: ton of money as a result of our invasion of Iraq.
- 10:11Speaker 1: The most obvious example of that is Halliburton, the company
- 10:14Speaker 1: Dick Cheney was the CEO of right up until the
- 10:17Speaker 1: point he became vice president. Halliburton's business dealings with the
- 10:21Speaker 1: military skyrocketed under the Bush Cheney administration. The company rose
- 10:26Speaker 1: to seventh largest military contractor in two thousand and three,
- 10:32Speaker 1: up from the twenty second largest in just two thousand
- 10:35Speaker 1: three short years. In two thousand and four, The New
- 10:38Speaker 1: York Times reported that Cheney received nearly two million dollars
- 10:41Speaker 1: from Halliburton while he was in office. In two thousand
- 10:45Speaker 1: and one, Halliburton was awarded a contract to provide food, housing, fuel,
- 10:51Speaker 1: and other logistical support for troops in the Middle East.
- 10:54Speaker 1: That contract generated five billion dollars for Halliburton just through
- 11:00Speaker 1: two thousand and four. In March two thousand and three, Kellogg,
- 11:04Speaker 1: Brown and Root, which was Halliburton's construction and engineering subsidiary,
- 11:09Speaker 1: was awarded a no bid contract to restore and operate
- 11:13Speaker 1: Iraqi oil wells. That contract was classified just before the
- 11:18Speaker 1: invasion of Iraq. Go figure, but it's estimated to have
- 11:21Speaker 1: been worth approximately seven billion dollars. So the Bush Cheney
- 11:26Speaker 1: regime had a vested financial interest in making sure their
- 11:32Speaker 1: revival of the American war machine moved forward, as did
- 11:36Speaker 1: countless other corporate cronies who stood the profit from an
- 11:40Speaker 1: eventual war in Iraq and beyond. And Paul Wellstone opposed
- 11:46Speaker 1: that war, but his opposition was deeper than that. Keep
- 11:49Speaker 1: in mind this is all happening in a world that
- 11:52Speaker 1: was fresh off of nine to eleven. The Bush administration
- 11:55Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of opposition when it came to
- 11:58Speaker 1: the war in Iraq. At first, the Senate was mostly
- 12:02Speaker 1: falling in line, but Wellstone was not, and the fact
- 12:05Speaker 1: that he got a boost in the polls from opposing
- 12:08Speaker 1: the war made it very likely that some of his
- 12:10Speaker 1: fellow Democrats might take the same approach. Wellstone had the
- 12:14Speaker 1: most consistent record of opposing Bush administration initiatives of any
- 12:19Speaker 1: member in the Senate. He was the chairman of the
- 12:22Speaker 1: Securities Reform Committee. He was attempting to block the nomination
- 12:26Speaker 1: of William Webster, who's a former CIA and FBI head
- 12:30Speaker 1: and good good friend of big business types, from becoming
- 12:33Speaker 1: the chairman of the SEC's Accounting Oversight Commission. He was
- 12:38Speaker 1: also one of the lead voices pushing for an investigation
- 12:42Speaker 1: into three hundred and fifty million dollars that went missing
- 12:46Speaker 1: from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, a matter Bush's Secretary
- 12:50Speaker 1: of Interior, Gail Norton twice pleaded the fifth over when
- 12:55Speaker 1: asked about it. Keep that scandal in mind for next episode.
- 12:58Speaker 1: It'll be very important then. But carrying on another thing,
- 13:02Speaker 1: Wellstone was vocally opposed to the Bush administration practice of
- 13:07Speaker 1: allowing homeland security contracts to be signed with American companies
- 13:12Speaker 1: that had moved offshore to avoid paying taxes, which, no
- 13:17Speaker 1: matter what side of the aisle on if you're not
- 13:19Speaker 1: also opposed to that, enjoy the taste of that boot
- 13:22Speaker 1: you're licking, buddy. Those contracts, along with the Halliburton contracts,
- 13:28Speaker 1: were a huge point of contention. When this war finally started,
- 13:32Speaker 1: Wellstone proposed legislation to prevent these contracts, and the measure
- 13:38Speaker 1: passed by a voice vote on the Senate floor. And
- 13:41Speaker 1: then guess what the measures were withdrawn after Paul Wellstone died.
- 13:47Speaker 1: How convenient. Wellstone was also opposed to something called Plan Columbia,
- 13:51Speaker 1: which was an initiative ostensibly meant to fight drug trafficking
- 13:56Speaker 1: that actually just made the countries where it was implemented
- 13:59Speaker 1: way more danger for anyone who wasn't a drug trafficker.
- 14:02Speaker 1: And possibly the first attempt on his life actually happened
- 14:07Speaker 1: on a trip to Colombia when a bomb was found
- 14:10Speaker 1: along the route he was supposed to be traveling that day,
- 14:13Speaker 1: But the CIA definitely didn't plant that bomb. Another thing
- 14:17Speaker 1: well Stone was actively involved in was trying to pass
- 14:20Speaker 1: legislation to protect workers and consumers against asbestos poisoning. And
- 14:25Speaker 1: that might not strike you immediately as a stance that
- 14:28Speaker 1: would put a person's life in danger, but consider this.
- 14:32Speaker 1: The aforementioned Halliburton was deeply involved in the asbestos issue
- 14:37Speaker 1: due to a previous merger with a company called Dresser Industries.
- 14:41Speaker 1: That merger brought lots of asbestos liabilities with it estimated
- 14:46Speaker 1: to be two point two billion dollars over a fifteen
- 14:50Speaker 1: year period if things went the way Wellstone wanted. Did
- 14:53Speaker 1: people ever get murdered for financial reasons? Is money ever
- 14:56Speaker 1: a motive for murder? I don't know. I should look
- 14:59Speaker 1: that up anyway. On account of all that, the Bush
- 15:02Speaker 1: administration was laser focused on getting well Stone out of office.
- 15:08Speaker 1: By October two thousand and two, Bush had visited Minnesota
- 15:12Speaker 1: four times to drum up support for Wellstone's opponent, Norm Coleman.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent on attack ads.
- 15:21Speaker 1: At a meeting with war veterans and Wilmar Minnesota two
- 15:24Speaker 1: days before his death, well Stone said that Dick Cheney
- 15:27Speaker 1: told him, quote, if you vote against the war in Iraq,
- 15:31Speaker 1: the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you.
- 15:35Speaker 1: There will be severe ramifications for you and the state
- 15:39Speaker 1: of Minnesota. But reminder, he did vote against the war
- 15:44Speaker 1: in Iraq, and it actually improved his standing in the polls.
- 15:48Speaker 1: A Minneapolis Star Tribune survey from the week of October eleventh,
- 15:51Speaker 1: two thousand and two, showed that forty seven percent of
- 15:54Speaker 1: voters supported Wellstone, compared to forty one percent for Norm Coleman.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Around this time, publications were running all sorts of stories
- 16:04Speaker 1: about how the Bush Cheney machine wanted nothing more than
- 16:08Speaker 1: to defeat Paul Wellstone, and it was becoming more and
- 16:11Speaker 1: more clear that they were probably going to fail. That's
- 16:14Speaker 1: obviously not proof that Paul Wellstone was murdered by the Republicans,
- 16:19Speaker 1: but it is motive, which is a key aspect of
- 16:22Speaker 1: any murder case. Paul Wellstone presented a legitimate obstacle to
- 16:28Speaker 1: the goals of the Bush administration. He was maybe going
- 16:31Speaker 1: to filibuster the Homeland Security Act. He opposed them on
- 16:35Speaker 1: tax cuts, the SEC and the war in Iraq. He
- 16:39Speaker 1: wanted to open further investigations into nine to eleven. If
- 16:43Speaker 1: there was anyone the Republicans might have considered assassinating in
- 16:48Speaker 1: two thousand and two, it was Paul Wellstone. And again,
- 16:51Speaker 1: this isn't just opposition to one war we're talking about.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Paul Wellstone was the most effective and vocal opponent of
- 16:59Speaker 1: everything the Busokush administration wanted to do. To give you
- 17:02Speaker 1: an idea of how much of an obstacle he was
- 17:04Speaker 1: and the lengths to the Republicans would go to to
- 17:07Speaker 1: remove perceived obstacles. Let's talk about a couple of things
- 17:11Speaker 1: that happened after Wellstone died. For one thing, the stock
- 17:14Speaker 1: market immediately rallied upon news of Wellstone's death. A Slate
- 17:19Speaker 1: article published the day of the crash pointed that out
- 17:22Speaker 1: there weren't any financial experts taken to the airwaves to
- 17:26Speaker 1: say that. But Slate writer Daniel Gross looked at the
- 17:29Speaker 1: intra day charts and noted that all of the other
- 17:32Speaker 1: news that could have maybe caused a rally or swayed
- 17:36Speaker 1: the market at all broke in the morning, and by
- 17:39Speaker 1: one thirty pm Eastern time or so, things had mostly
- 17:43Speaker 1: settled down as people started prepping for the weekend. But
- 17:47Speaker 1: then news of the crash started coming through and the
- 17:50Speaker 1: stock market took off. So it wasn't just the Bush
- 17:55Speaker 1: administration that recognized Wellstone as a potential impact meant to
- 18:00Speaker 1: their dreams. It was all of corporate America. And then
- 18:04Speaker 1: there's the Senate split. Before the two thousand and two
- 18:07Speaker 1: midterm elections, the Senate was at a massively uncomfortable forty
- 18:12Speaker 1: nine to forty nine split between Republicans and Democrats. There
- 18:16Speaker 1: were a couple independents in there By the time those
- 18:18Speaker 1: elections were over, the Republicans had a fifty one forty
- 18:22Speaker 1: eight majority, meaning they'd have a much easier time getting
- 18:26Speaker 1: their various war requests fulfilled without much opposition. Wellstone's death,
- 18:32Speaker 1: coupled with Walter Mondale's subsequent loss, made for one of
- 18:36Speaker 1: those seats the Democrats lost. The other was Max Cleland's
- 18:40Speaker 1: Senate seat in Georgia, which I think is another fine
- 18:44Speaker 1: example of how far Republicans were willing to go to
- 18:48Speaker 1: win that Senate majority. After Wellstone's death, according to the
- 18:53Speaker 1: authors of American Assassination, seven hundred thousand dollars that was
- 18:58Speaker 1: meant to be used to keep him from winning was
- 19:01Speaker 1: reallocated to be used to keep Cleveland from winning. I
- 19:04Speaker 1: can't confirm, but it's possible that some of that money
- 19:07Speaker 1: went toward one of the most insane and disgusting attack
- 19:12Speaker 1: ads of all time. Because here's the thing about Max Cleland.
- 19:16Speaker 1: He's a decorated Vietnam War veteran who lost both legs
- 19:21Speaker 1: and his right arm during a mission in Quisan, which
- 19:25Speaker 1: makes it all the more crazier that his opponent, a
- 19:28Speaker 1: guy named Saxby Chambliss, with the full support of the
- 19:32Speaker 1: Bush administration ran attack ads claiming Max Cleland was unpatriotic
- 19:39Speaker 1: because he opposed George W. Bush. In the commercials, Cleveland
- 19:44Speaker 1: was photoshopped into pictures with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
- 19:50Speaker 1: So basically, a guy who lost three limbs serving in
- 19:53Speaker 1: his country on the battlefield was less of a patriot
- 19:58Speaker 1: than the lawyer turned concer servative politician he was facing,
- 20:02Speaker 1: who never served in the military at all. Why because
- 20:06Speaker 1: that Vietnam veteran voted against Republicans on an amendment to
- 20:10Speaker 1: the Chemical Weapons Treaty that would have allowed quote terrorist
- 20:15Speaker 1: nations that's a Bush Administration quote to be on United
- 20:19Speaker 1: Nations Weapons Inspections teams in Iraq, And somehow that shit worked.
- 20:25Speaker 1: In the weeks leading up to the election, groups that
- 20:27Speaker 1: had previously supported Cleveland started withdrawing that support. Even the
- 20:32Speaker 1: Veterans of Foreign Wars endorsed Chambliss, who again never even
- 20:37Speaker 1: served in the military. Meanwhile, Cleveland was awarded a Silver
- 20:41Speaker 1: Star for his service and once served as the head
- 20:43Speaker 1: of the Veterans Administration. Despite holding a twenty two point
- 20:49Speaker 1: lead over Chambliss in the polls at one point, Cleveland
- 20:52Speaker 1: lost in a massive upset his supporters blamed that horrifying
- 20:57Speaker 1: attack ad and the resulting fallout from it, for costing
- 21:01Speaker 1: him that election, But is that really what happened? Because
- 21:05Speaker 1: something else that's worth mentioning in regards to what Republicans
- 21:09Speaker 1: were willing to do in the name of carrying out
- 21:12Speaker 1: their agenda is the multiple claims and allegations that they
- 21:17Speaker 1: were using touchscreen voting machines to steal votes. Remember that,
- 21:22Speaker 1: speaking of voter fraud Republicans, and it wasn't a claim
- 21:26Speaker 1: that was being spread by disgruntled Democrats or conspiracy blogs.
- 21:32Speaker 1: It was spread by all sorts of mainstream outlets who
- 21:36Speaker 1: rightly questioned the wisdom in letting companies that were friendly
- 21:40Speaker 1: to the Bush administration make voting machines that no one
- 21:45Speaker 1: was allowed to inspect and that produced no on paper
- 21:50Speaker 1: evidence of who a person voted for. Victoria Collier, writing
- 21:54Speaker 1: for Harper's in twenty twelve, published a fascinating rundown of
- 21:59Speaker 1: how's a Bush Cheney machine facilitated kind of a borderline
- 22:05Speaker 1: corporate takeover of the American voting system in the early
- 22:08Speaker 1: two thousands. It starts in nineteen ninety six with the
- 22:12Speaker 1: election of Chuck Hagel to a Senate seat in Nebraska.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Hagel was completely unknown before entering the race. His opponent
- 22:20Speaker 1: was a wildly popular Democrat named Ben Nelson, who'd been
- 22:25Speaker 1: elected in a landslide two years earlier. Prior to the race,
- 22:29Speaker 1: a poll conducted by the Omaha World Herald showed the
- 22:33Speaker 1: race was a dead heat, with each candidate polling at
- 22:36Speaker 1: forty seven percent. That set the stage for a close election,
- 22:40Speaker 1: but then it wasn't close at all. Improbably, Hagel destroyed
- 22:44Speaker 1: Nelson by fifteen points, taking a seat that hadn't been
- 22:48Speaker 1: held by a Republican in eighteen years. What the world
- 22:53Speaker 1: didn't find out until well after that election was that,
- 22:57Speaker 1: right up until shortly before that election started, Chuck Hagel
- 23:01Speaker 1: was the chairman of the company whose computerized voting machines
- 23:06Speaker 1: counted the votes in that election. Company was called Election
- 23:10Speaker 1: Systems and Software or ESS. In two thousand and two,
- 23:14Speaker 1: Hegel's challenge for that seat by a Democrat named Charlie Motulka,
- 23:18Speaker 1: who directly questioned the relationship between Hegel and the company
- 23:23Speaker 1: that makes the voting machines. Motoka lost that election by
- 23:27Speaker 1: an insane margin. Hagel won eighty three percent of the vote.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Matolka only got seventy thousand, two hundred and ninety votes,
- 23:37Speaker 1: despite more than four hundred thousand Democrats being registered to
- 23:41Speaker 1: vote at the time. By this point in American history,
- 23:44Speaker 1: the same year Wellstone died and Max Cleveland lost, vote
- 23:48Speaker 1: counting in this country was already well on its way
- 23:52Speaker 1: to being centralized in the hands of two companies that
- 23:55Speaker 1: both had strong partisan ties to the far right. Ess,
- 24:00Speaker 1: the company that maybe helped Chuck Hagel take a Senate
- 24:02Speaker 1: seat in Nebraska, was founded in Omaha by Bob and
- 24:06Speaker 1: Todd Eurosovich. That company's main competitor is a company called
- 24:10Speaker 1: die Bold, who makes ATM machines but somehow can't make
- 24:15Speaker 1: voting machines that spit out a receipt. You get a
- 24:18Speaker 1: receipt in an ATM, just saying anyway. In two thousand
- 24:22Speaker 1: and two, Bob Eurosovich left Ess and guess where he
- 24:27Speaker 1: went to die Bold? Remember them, That's the company who's
- 24:31Speaker 1: CEO in two thousand and three promised to deliver Ohio
- 24:35Speaker 1: to George W. Bush in the following year's election, And
- 24:39Speaker 1: that exact thing happened. Both of these companies, much to
- 24:43Speaker 1: the consternation of literally everyone except Republicans refuse to let
- 24:48Speaker 1: their voting machines be inspected by outside observers, claiming they
- 24:53Speaker 1: didn't want to reveal proprietary information, which I guess if
- 24:57Speaker 1: you're in that field and you've had to make that
- 24:59Speaker 1: claim before, maybe that sounds right. But this is vote
- 25:04Speaker 1: counting software. It just counts. It's not supposed to do
- 25:08Speaker 1: anything else. What is proprietary about vote counting software? Anyway?
- 25:14Speaker 1: The two thousand and four election came down to Ohio,
- 25:17Speaker 1: which George W. Bush won, even though exit polls showed
- 25:21Speaker 1: him losing by a whole lot. Ohio's hardcore conservative Secretary
- 25:26Speaker 1: of State Kenneth Blackwell, a staunch Bush supporter, ignored any
- 25:31Speaker 1: claims of impropriety. A report about all the weirdness in
- 25:34Speaker 1: the Ohio votes, and there was a lot, including cases
- 25:38Speaker 1: of voting machines just outright flipping Carry votes to Bush votes,
- 25:42Speaker 1: were outlined in a two thousand and five report called
- 25:46Speaker 1: Preserving Democracy What went Wrong in Ohio by Representative John
- 25:51Speaker 1: Conyers and what does all this have to do with
- 25:53Speaker 1: Max cleland Well. In the month leading up to his election,
- 25:57Speaker 1: Diebold employees applied in un certified software patch to five
- 26:03Speaker 1: thousand voting machines in Georgia. This is a quote. We
- 26:06Speaker 1: were told that it was intended to fix the clock
- 26:09Speaker 1: in the system, which it did not do. That's whistleblower
- 26:12Speaker 1: Chris Hood, a former Diebold consultant, speaking to Rolling Stone
- 26:16Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. And here's another quote. The
- 26:20Speaker 1: curious thing is the very swift covert way this was done.
- 26:23Speaker 1: It was an unauthorized patch, and they were trying to
- 26:27Speaker 1: keep it secret from the state. We were told not
- 26:29Speaker 1: to talk to county personnel about it. I received instructions
- 26:34Speaker 1: directly from Bob Eurosovich. It was very unusual that a
- 26:39Speaker 1: president of the company would give an order like that
- 26:42Speaker 1: and be involved at that level. Weird, huh. But what
- 26:46Speaker 1: I'm getting at here is that the death of Paul
- 26:49Speaker 1: Wellstone happened at a point in history when Republicans were
- 26:53Speaker 1: doing everything possible to make sure no one stood in
- 26:57Speaker 1: the way of their plans to set the United States
- 27:01Speaker 1: on course for a perpetual state of war in the
- 27:04Speaker 1: Middle East. Does that mean they'd go so far as
- 27:07Speaker 1: to commit murder by airplane. I don't know. Even if
- 27:10Speaker 1: it does, I'm certainly not gonna be the one to
- 27:12Speaker 1: prove it's true. But I will tell you this, Republicans,
- 27:16Speaker 1: especially Republicans with ties to the Bush Cheney machine, have
- 27:21Speaker 1: more than one fortuitously timed plane crash on their record.
- 27:26Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about nine to eleven case
- 27:28Speaker 1: in point. In two thousand and eight, in Ohio, attorney
- 27:32Speaker 1: and former Republican named Cliff Arnebeck started gathering evidence to
- 27:38Speaker 1: file a racketeering claim against Carl Rove, which included the
- 27:43Speaker 1: claim that Rove had masterminded the theft of the two
- 27:46Speaker 1: thousand and four election. His key witness was a guy
- 27:49Speaker 1: named Michael Connell, who was the Bush campaign's chief IT strategist.
- 27:55Speaker 1: This is a quote from Cliff Arnebeck. We detected a
- 27:58Speaker 1: pattern of criminal activity. We identified Connell as a key
- 28:02Speaker 1: witness as the implementer for Rove. Arnabeck actually managed to
- 28:07Speaker 1: get a deposition out of Connell and hoped to have
- 28:10Speaker 1: him testify against Carl Rove in open court. But that
- 28:14Speaker 1: never happened because on December nineteenth, two thousand and eight,
- 28:19Speaker 1: at the age of forty seven, Michael Connell died when
- 28:23Speaker 1: the single engine Piper Saratoga plane he was piloting alone
- 28:29Speaker 1: crashed en route from Washington, d C. To Ohio. How
- 28:34Speaker 1: weirdly convenient is that? And oh man, we are just
- 28:37Speaker 1: getting started on the suspiciously well timed plane crash front.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Before we move on, let's just run through some of
- 28:44Speaker 1: the details of the Wellstone crash. A Democratic candidate for
- 28:49Speaker 1: Senate in the midst of a close race with huge
- 28:52Speaker 1: implications for control of the Senate dies in a plane
- 28:56Speaker 1: crash less than a month before their impending election. As
- 29:01Speaker 1: politically convenient as it all may seem, Carol Krmody and
- 29:05Speaker 1: the NTSB rush in to assure everyone that nothing weird happened,
- 29:10Speaker 1: despite eyewitness accounts to the contrary. The eventual NTSB report
- 29:15Speaker 1: blames the crash on pilot error. So we know all
- 29:18Speaker 1: of that happened in the Wellstone crash. Now, what if
- 29:21Speaker 1: I told you all of that happened twice in the
- 29:24Speaker 1: span of two years, Because it did. On October sixteenth,
- 29:28Speaker 1: two thousand, a plane carrying Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan, then
- 29:33Speaker 1: a Democratic candidate for the Senate, crash just weeks before
- 29:37Speaker 1: the election he was running in. Shortly after the crash happened,
- 29:41Speaker 1: acting NTSB head Carol Krmody assured the public that nothing
- 29:45Speaker 1: odd was afoot, just regular plane crash shenanigans. The eventual
- 29:51Speaker 1: NTSB report blamed pilot error. He just got disoriented as all,
- 29:55Speaker 1: just like Wellstone's pilots. That despite eyewitness account out of
- 30:00Speaker 1: the Carnahan crash reporting an explosion, the sky turning red,
- 30:06Speaker 1: and the plane going down in a fireball, none of
- 30:09Speaker 1: which is indicative of sloppy piloting unless he hit an
- 30:14Speaker 1: iceberg up there. That all implies sabotage of some sort.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Planes don't just explode in the air on their own,
- 30:22Speaker 1: But none of that came up in the final report.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Just pilot error and nothing more. Sounds familiar right now.
- 30:28Speaker 1: If you're old enough to remember the early two thousands,
- 30:31Speaker 1: you might vaguely recall this funny thing that happened where
- 30:35Speaker 1: a guy running for office died in a plane crash
- 30:38Speaker 1: but still won the ensuing election because voters just hated
- 30:42Speaker 1: his opponent that much. Well, that guy was Mel Carnahan,
- 30:47Speaker 1: and the person he beat was John Ashcroft, who went
- 30:50Speaker 1: on to be named Attorney General when George W. Bush
- 30:54Speaker 1: took office. You might also remember John Ashcroft as the
- 30:57Speaker 1: guy who did this in public while Sir in one
- 31:00Speaker 1: of the highest offices in all the land.
- 31:02Speaker 2: You can see it in her eye. She's not yet
- 31:07Speaker 2: begun to fly. It's time to let the mighty eagle
- 31:12Speaker 2: soar once more, Flady Egle soor like she's never sore before,
- 31:28Speaker 2: from a rocky coast to golden shore. Let the mighty
- 31:36Speaker 2: Egle s.
- 31:41Speaker 1: You know what else he did in his role as
- 31:43Speaker 1: Attorney General. It was up to him to decide if
- 31:47Speaker 1: the Paul Wellstone crash was worthy of a criminal investigation.
- 31:52Speaker 1: As mentioned earlier, He decided that it was not. So
- 31:55Speaker 1: those possibilities were literally never explored at all in any capacity.
- 32:01Speaker 1: So add that to the odd coincidences between the Mel
- 32:05Speaker 1: Carnahan and Paul Wellstone crashes. John Ashcroft was an integral
- 32:10Speaker 1: figure in both of them. There is a key difference
- 32:13Speaker 1: between the two crashes, though, and that Republicans still didn't
- 32:16Speaker 1: win that Senate seat. After Mel Carnahan died, Missouri law
- 32:20Speaker 1: demanded that Carnahan still be on the ballot, at which
- 32:23Speaker 1: point it was up to voters to decide if they
- 32:24Speaker 1: wanted Ashcroft or a dead guy in office. They chose
- 32:28Speaker 1: the dead guy, and his wife was appointed as his replacement.
- 32:33Speaker 1: If the Republicans had won that seat, they'd have taken
- 32:36Speaker 1: a fifty one to forty nine advantage in the Senate. Instead,
- 32:39Speaker 1: it was split fifty to fifty. But on the bright side,
- 32:42Speaker 1: once Bush took office, Dick Cheney was the tie breaking vote.
- 32:45Speaker 1: But the circumstances tightened up a little more nicely for
- 32:49Speaker 1: Republicans with the Wellstone crash. Laws in that state mandated
- 32:53Speaker 1: that someone run in Paul Wellstone's place, and since his
- 32:58Speaker 1: wife was on that plane with him, it wasn't going
- 33:00Speaker 1: to be her. The Democrats ended up running Walter Mondale,
- 33:03Speaker 1: who lost by a lot. Now, what are the odds
- 33:06Speaker 1: of that? Not Walter Mondale losing. The odds of that
- 33:09Speaker 1: were significantly high all the time. But what are the
- 33:14Speaker 1: odds of a senator dying in a plane crash just
- 33:18Speaker 1: days before the election? Even once I get that they
- 33:22Speaker 1: fly a lot, But that is a very specific window
- 33:26Speaker 1: of time in which that plane crash needs to happen.
- 33:30Speaker 1: The odds of that ever happening again in aviation history
- 33:35Speaker 1: have to be incredibly slim, right, But it happened twice
- 33:39Speaker 1: in two years, both times to the benefit of the
- 33:43Speaker 1: Republican Party, with John Ashcroft and former CIA analyst Carol
- 33:47Speaker 1: Carmody playing integral roles in both crashes, and in both
- 33:52Speaker 1: cases the cause was experienced pilots making unexplained, nonspecific last
- 33:59Speaker 1: minute errors, even though people on the ground reported seeing
- 34:02Speaker 1: and hearing things that weren't in line with the official report.
- 34:07Speaker 1: All of that happened twice in two years. So if
- 34:10Speaker 1: you're keeping count, we're up to three sketchy plane crashes
- 34:14Speaker 1: that all at the very least had the potential to
- 34:17Speaker 1: be beneficial to the Bush Cheney war machine. And we're
- 34:22Speaker 1: not done because, for one thing, remember who we're talking
- 34:25Speaker 1: about here, George Bush, Which George Bush? Does it matter?
- 34:29Speaker 1: Do you think father and son somehow had differing goals
- 34:33Speaker 1: when it came to America's potential world domination, as foretold
- 34:38Speaker 1: in the Project for the New American Century, a document
- 34:41Speaker 1: that was also signed by Jeb Bush. Yeah, the Wellstone
- 34:45Speaker 1: crash and eventually the Carnahan crash were to the benefit
- 34:49Speaker 1: of George W. Bush. But his dad has a few
- 34:52Speaker 1: well timed plane crashes on his record as well. And
- 34:56Speaker 1: before we get into him, just a reminder, George HW.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Bush Bush was the eleventh ever director of the CIA,
- 35:04Speaker 1: a job he got despite being the head of the
- 35:08Speaker 1: Republican National Committee during the Watergate scandal and a staunch
- 35:13Speaker 1: Nixon supporter through all of it. Sure, he only served
- 35:17Speaker 1: as CIA director for one year, but he did serve.
- 35:19Speaker 2: In that role.
- 35:20Speaker 1: Nonetheless, in a few short years after his tenure, he
- 35:24Speaker 1: was Vice President of the United States, a role he
- 35:28Speaker 1: served in for eight years before becoming the first ever
- 35:32Speaker 1: head of the CIA to become president. So with a
- 35:35Speaker 1: background like that, he's going to know a thing or
- 35:38Speaker 1: two about covert operations and suspicious deaths. I mean, there
- 35:42Speaker 1: are rumors that George H. W. Bush was involved in
- 35:45Speaker 1: the Kennedy assassination for Fock's sake, and hey, sometimes those
- 35:49Speaker 1: suspicious deaths are going to happen by airplane, like the
- 35:52Speaker 1: death of Omar Trejos, for example. He was the de
- 35:56Speaker 1: facto leader of Panama from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen eight.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty one. Bush's second year as second in chief
- 36:06Speaker 1: is the year Omar Torehosts threatened to blow up the
- 36:10Speaker 1: Panama Canal in the event of a United States invasion. Conveniently,
- 36:15Speaker 1: it never came to that, because on July thirty first,
- 36:18Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, Omar Torehos was killed when the plane
- 36:23Speaker 1: he was flying in crashed, And in this case, it
- 36:26Speaker 1: didn't just crash, it disappeared from radar and the wreckage
- 36:30Speaker 1: wasn't found for another week. Torehos was replaced as leader
- 36:34Speaker 1: of Panama by CIA operative Manuel Noriega. Go figure. There
- 36:40Speaker 1: was immediate speculation that this was a US backed assassination,
- 36:45Speaker 1: as you'd expect, but good luck proven it Panama. That said.
- 36:50Speaker 1: In his two thousand and four book Confessions of an
- 36:53Speaker 1: Economic Hitman, author John Perkins claims torehost was assassinated for
- 37:00Speaker 1: fusing to align with US corporate interests. He also claims
- 37:04Speaker 1: in the book that he was party to a process
- 37:06Speaker 1: of economic colonization of Third world countries on behalf of
- 37:10Speaker 1: a cabal of corporations, banks, and the US government. Sounds
- 37:16Speaker 1: like some wild conspiracy shit, I know, but that book
- 37:19Speaker 1: spent seventy weeks on the New York Times bestseller's list
- 37:23Speaker 1: and has since been published in at least thirty two languages,
- 37:27Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Oh. Also, all documents relating to
- 37:31Speaker 1: the cause of the Torreho's crash quote went missing during
- 37:35Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty nine US invasion of Panama convenient again.
- 37:40Speaker 1: And the Torrehos crash happened just a couple months after
- 37:44Speaker 1: Ecuadorian President Jimei Roaldos Aguilera died in a similarly suspicious
- 37:50Speaker 1: crash that was similarly beneficial to US interests, and of
- 37:56Speaker 1: course it was blamed on unexplained pilot error. So if
- 38:00Speaker 1: you're still keeping track, we have well Stone, Carnahan, Michael O'Connell,
- 38:05Speaker 1: Omar Torijost, Jamie Rodos Aguilera. That's five deaths by plane
- 38:11Speaker 1: crash that all share very similar details. And one of
- 38:15Speaker 1: those details is that all of those people, in one
- 38:19Speaker 1: way or another stood in the way of Republican dreams
- 38:23Speaker 1: of a Reaganite future for America. And now let's talk
- 38:26Speaker 1: about John Tower. He was a Republican who was appointed
- 38:31Speaker 1: by Republicans to investigate Republicans. Specifically, in nineteen eighty six,
- 38:37Speaker 1: Reagan appointed John Tower as head of what came to
- 38:40Speaker 1: be aptly named the Tower Commission, which was tasked with
- 38:44Speaker 1: investigating the Iran Contra scandal. Tower was a Republican, but
- 38:49Speaker 1: he also tended to break with his party from time
- 38:51Speaker 1: to time, but also supported George H. W. Bush during
- 38:55Speaker 1: his confirmation as CIA director so he probably seemed like
- 38:59Speaker 1: a safe choice. Turns out he was not a safe choice.
- 39:03Speaker 1: The Tower report sharply criticized the Reagan administration for their
- 39:08Speaker 1: role in the scandal, and even demanded that the president
- 39:11Speaker 1: take accountability for what happened. He also left something out
- 39:14Speaker 1: that everyone involved knew he knew, which was that George HW.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Bush was a central figure in the scandal, which makes
- 39:23Speaker 1: what happens next very interesting for starters. Reagan offered Tower
- 39:28Speaker 1: the CIA director job shortly after the report came out,
- 39:33Speaker 1: but Tower declined the job. Question, do you think that
- 39:37Speaker 1: move was intended to keep Tower from talking more because
- 39:40Speaker 1: they knew he left some key details out? Maybe not?
- 39:44Speaker 1: Because George HW. Bush actually nominated Tower to be his
- 39:48Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, but the Senate rejected his nomination the
- 39:53Speaker 1: first time that happened since nineteen fifty nine because the
- 39:57Speaker 1: stories about Towers womanizing and problems with alcohol that were
- 40:02Speaker 1: mysteriously leaked to the press. Now can you guess who
- 40:05Speaker 1: people suspect of leaking those stories. That's right, George H. W. Bush.
- 40:10Speaker 1: The Senate rejection effectively derailed John Tower's career and paved
- 40:17Speaker 1: the way for Dick Cheney to become Secretary of State instead.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Shady right now, guess how John Tower eventually died. You
- 40:25Speaker 1: guessed it in a mysterious plane crash that happened in
- 40:29Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. By that point, he'd already written one
- 40:33Speaker 1: tell all book about his time in government, including some
- 40:36Speaker 1: stuff about his investigation of the Iran Contra scandal. Rumor
- 40:41Speaker 1: was he and his daughter were working on a follow
- 40:43Speaker 1: up which was to be a tell all specifically about
- 40:46Speaker 1: that scandal and the names involved in it. But before
- 40:49Speaker 1: that could happen, the Atlantic Southeast Airlines commuter flight that
- 40:55Speaker 1: John Tower and his daughter Marian were flying on crashed
- 41:00Speaker 1: shortly before it was due to land, in a crash that,
- 41:03Speaker 1: much like well Stone's, involved two pilots making final contact
- 41:08Speaker 1: with air traffic control that indicated no problems at all,
- 41:13Speaker 1: and then crashing immediately afterwards for reasons that still aren't
- 41:18Speaker 1: entirely clear. So now, just to update the tally, that's
- 41:21Speaker 1: Paul Wellstone, Mel Carnahan, Michael O'Connell, omar Toihost Hime, Roaldos Aguilera,
- 41:29Speaker 1: and James Tower. That's six weird deaths by plane crash,
- 41:34Speaker 1: all of which happened at a time that made them
- 41:36Speaker 1: beneficial or at least potentially beneficial to this country's Reagan,
- 41:41Speaker 1: Bush Cheney fueled version of the future. And we still
- 41:46Speaker 1: aren't done talking about plane crashes like not in general,
- 41:51Speaker 1: but for today we are because I, much like you,
- 41:54Speaker 1: I suspect am tired of hearing my own voice right now.
- 41:58Speaker 1: We will wrap this all up next week by talking
- 42:02Speaker 1: about another strange airline disaster, Alaska Airlines Flight two sixty one,
- 42:06Speaker 1: the flight that partially inspired the Denzel Washington film Flight,
- 42:10Speaker 1: which is the Rocky of movies about cocaine addicts. We
- 42:14Speaker 1: will also talk about a wild but still completely plausible
- 42:18Speaker 1: theory about how these crashes were orchestrated if they were
- 42:23Speaker 1: indeed sabotaged. Until then, stay safe, America. Thanks, we love you.