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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Chat rest pretty accurate. One last night back Welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick from the home studio.
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Speaker 1: Today is June, and this is our final show before
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Speaker 1: a three week hiatus. The dead zone is here, so
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Speaker 1: we will go away for a while while we can,
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Speaker 1: because once we pick back up and mid July, it
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Speaker 1: is going to be NonStop, hopefully until training camp and
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Speaker 1: preseason games and the regular season go off without a hitch.
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Speaker 1: But over the news the last couple of days, that's
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Speaker 1: certainly up in the air now as well. But we'll
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Speaker 1: get you through this last program today. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 1: up on the show. Analyst Jeff Lockman will join us.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little ball and see what the Jags
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Speaker 1: are up to this week. Few guys have been out
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Speaker 1: practicing on their own, it looked like on social media.
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Speaker 1: NFL Network reporter Steve White discusses the social justice initiatives
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Speaker 1: from the Jaguars that have happened over the last two
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Speaker 1: or three weeks and the league as a whole. He's
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Speaker 1: been very active on social media and in his reporting
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Speaker 1: on NFL Network about what the league has done the
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Speaker 1: reaction to it, and he was the one actually that
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Speaker 1: broke the Colin Kaepernick story of why his kneeling began
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Speaker 1: back in the first place, back in Goshen. So we'll
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Speaker 1: get his perspective on that reaction then as opposed to now.
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Ozier joins us. Also, we'll break down
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Speaker 1: his podcast earlier in the week. He spoke with Terry Robiski,
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Speaker 1: the running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, director of player
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Speaker 1: development for the Jackson We'll get his thoughts on that
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Speaker 1: and four three verses three four that was the talk
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Speaker 1: late last week from defensive coordinator Todd Wash will break
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Speaker 1: that down again. We'll go around the National Football League
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Speaker 1: as well. So quite a show today, our last one
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Speaker 1: for a while. This is we are nearing the three
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Speaker 1: month mark. In fact, tomorrow would be the three month
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Speaker 1: anniversary of our last show in the building at t
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Speaker 1: I A A. Bank Field, that was on March nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Imagine that, Jeff Lockman on the phone with us now
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Speaker 1: Jaguars analysts logs. That's a crazy three month period, how
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Speaker 1: about that? Ah? Yeah, I mean it, It certainly is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And uh you would think in three months you might
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Speaker 1: have a little bit more answers, but I think you
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Speaker 1: still have a lot more questions, maybe than even than
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Speaker 1: you had three months ago. Uh. I think it puts
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Speaker 1: a lot of things up in here. But before we
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Speaker 1: get to that, was I the only one that was
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Speaker 1: listening at the beginning, going, where do you get a
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Speaker 1: hand rolled cuban sandwich? Sandwich? You were thinking, Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of hungry. And if we said cuban, I said,
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Speaker 1: oh man, I'd love to have me a cuban right now.
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Speaker 1: And then I started thinking, I said, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: I think he meant a cigar. That's exactly that's true.
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Speaker 1: Well that maybe you like them both, don't I won't
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Speaker 1: turn it either one of them down most days. But
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Speaker 1: to get to get back to the conversation about ball
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Speaker 1: or you know, the questions of what's happened in the
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Speaker 1: last three months, I mean, do you do you see
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Speaker 1: in your mind this NFL happening normally when we get
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Speaker 1: around to training camp July, August, September. But normally I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you mean, you know, rookies show up a week early,
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Speaker 1: then the quarterbacks are in, and then the rest of
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Speaker 1: the team, the veterans show up at a certain date
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Speaker 1: and they do two weeks anything anything, being normal. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think the definition of normal has changed, and we
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Speaker 1: don't know what that is yet. Yeah. I think we're
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Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of different things. And
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Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing. What happens if you're in
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Speaker 1: season and then on Saturday or Sunday morning for that matter,
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Speaker 1: you wake up and you're starting quarterbacks not feeling good?
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Speaker 1: Okay and uh and and he just spent all week
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Speaker 1: in the same room with the backup quarterbacks and with
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Speaker 1: the quarterback coach, and you you test him, he's positive,
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Speaker 1: whether it be Saturday or Sunday. Um, what are you
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Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean, do you do you have?
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Speaker 1: Can you can you just go ahead and expect to
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Speaker 1: play your backups who have been in the same room,
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Speaker 1: have been around. You're starting quarterback who tested positive. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you handle that challenge? Man? It's
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Speaker 1: it's so it's not even that's not even the right
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Speaker 1: word for what this is. Yeah, because even that they are,
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Speaker 1: I mean, what happens you know, to the game if
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Speaker 1: one team does not have quarterbacks available in that scenario?
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Speaker 1: Position groups? I mean we're talking, I mean, we're we're
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Speaker 1: seeing where it's you know, you guys, are I know
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Speaker 1: that what six players or whatever? That the University of Houston,
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Speaker 1: I think it was Texas today. Texas today had a few,
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Speaker 1: and then the Houston Texans in the Dallas Cowboys had
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Speaker 1: some recently as well. All right, but I think there
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Speaker 1: was another university in Texas that had an issue while ago.
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Speaker 1: But but I mean, I'm you're sit there and you
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Speaker 1: think about that. Okay, well, what if you get a
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman who's positive and he's asymptomatic, and he spends
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Speaker 1: all week with his guys. You know, he's doing one
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Speaker 1: on one drills. And look, when you do one on
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Speaker 1: one drills, I mean you're making contact with people. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're you're breathing on people. Uh, you're shedding things. I
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Speaker 1: mean that's what the definition what they're talking about how
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Speaker 1: the virus passes is through shedding. So what do you do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if one guy tests positive, he's been asymptomatic,
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Speaker 1: he's been in the same room as everybody else, and
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Speaker 1: and you could have an entire room that's out, well,
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Speaker 1: that entire room also has been around the other entire
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Speaker 1: rooms in the huddles and on the field and in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, how how do you handle this?
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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's so many questions, so many
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Speaker 1: and today, I believe, or yesterday, I think it was today.
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Speaker 1: Dr Fauci, the infectious disease expert that is in the
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Speaker 1: White House and does all that stuff, said that football
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Speaker 1: probably won't be able to be played unless it's a
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Speaker 1: bubble situation like the NBA is talking about and Major
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Speaker 1: League Baseball, where basically you quarantine the entire team at
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Speaker 1: a place for the season. Well that's not realistic. You
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Speaker 1: can't do that with you know, fifty three active guys,
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Speaker 1: ten practice squad guys, coaching staff, everybody. When what are
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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Quarantine their quarantine them and a bubble
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Speaker 1: away from their family, and then their family is going
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Speaker 1: to be quarantine and a bubble away from anybody else. Right.
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Speaker 1: That's tough, I mean, because you can't you can't expect
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Speaker 1: a player to be away from his family. But but
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the thing is that even though
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Speaker 1: we were all hopeful that, you know, once we get
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Speaker 1: the summer, that the frequency of transmission would down, and
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Speaker 1: obviously we're seeing some high set and some of the
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Speaker 1: testing procedures that related to an increase in positive tests
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Speaker 1: and the virus spreading or is that related to just
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Speaker 1: the simple fact that there's a lot more testing going
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Speaker 1: on right now too. You don't know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: And politics seems to get involved in everything, and so
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to decipher what the truth is going
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Speaker 1: to be. But the boy, it's it's just it's just
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Speaker 1: hard sometimes to envisions. We head to this little bit
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Speaker 1: of a break in the dead zone, you know, when
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Speaker 1: we come back, are we going to be out of
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Speaker 1: the dead zone or are we gonna be continuing to
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Speaker 1: exist in the dead zone with a lot of uncertainty?
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Speaker 1: You know? So, uh, I don't have the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of possibilities that are being discussed at the league level,
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Speaker 1: at team levels, and and I have a feeling that
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of I don't want to say indecision,
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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of decisions that haven't been made
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Speaker 1: because they just simply don't know the answer right now.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars analysts. And even if we
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Speaker 1: do get to let's say training camp, right and the
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Speaker 1: players can practice and they figured it out and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna test and all that is fine, quote unquote, I
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Speaker 1: don't think we'll be even close to their lives to
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Speaker 1: cover it. Heck no, no, JP, we won't be anywhere.
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Speaker 1: We won't be allowed anywhere near it. I'll be sitting
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Speaker 1: in this chair right here, interviewing guys over zoom or
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Speaker 1: however they set it up. That's how that's going. It'll
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Speaker 1: be you know, if you want to watch, maybe on
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Speaker 1: some kind of film thing, but you're not going down
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Speaker 1: there to to be on the field and be around
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Speaker 1: players and and for them to be at risk of
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Speaker 1: being around you. I mean, that's uh, the the way
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Speaker 1: that the game is covered from a media standpoint. Media
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Speaker 1: is going to have extremely limited access. Everything will be
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Speaker 1: done via zoom or team whatever you want to call,
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Speaker 1: uh there or whatever avenue is most available or readily
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Speaker 1: available to to the masses. And uh yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: you're gonna restrict everything. I mean, when when I mentioned
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Speaker 1: just before, you know, when you talk about having your
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Speaker 1: team traveling, I mean, who's essential You're talking about essential
9:13
Speaker 1: personality be able to have a football game. But I
9:15
Speaker 1: mean here's the here's the thing. I mean, that's assuming
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Speaker 1: you could even have it right. I mean, that's and
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Speaker 1: and that right now, that seems to be you know,
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Speaker 1: a pretty big assumption, you know, I mean being said,
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Speaker 1: I mean, what other what other pro sports league is
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Speaker 1: is playing right now? Well, you got soccer. So the
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Speaker 1: Premier League in England started yesterday, I believe actual games,
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Speaker 1: Bundesliga and Germany has been playing for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Um Nascar, but that's not a contact sport at least
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Speaker 1: personal Nascar is about as good as social distancing as
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Speaker 1: you can do. Man put down a car, you know,
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Speaker 1: let him, let him dumping grind, but bumping grind is
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Speaker 1: six ft or more at least. Yeah, that's right. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're swapping paint, you're not swapping spit. So yeah, so
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Speaker 1: that's about it. Bugs. And then once NBA gets going,
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Speaker 1: that's the bubble thing. If there's been a little bit
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Speaker 1: of pushback from the players on that as of late,
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Speaker 1: to be in a bubble JP, I mean, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean because beyond you that now to me, you're
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Speaker 1: asking me sure if that means getting a paycheck, I'll say,
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Speaker 1: in the bubble, to get the paycheck and then move
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Speaker 1: totally understand that I don't have a family. I don't
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Speaker 1: have kids. I don't have any of that stuff. So
10:27
Speaker 1: and that's that's where the question gets bigger and the
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Speaker 1: answer gets more difficult. And and with football you're dealing
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Speaker 1: with man much many, many, many more numbers than you're
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Speaker 1: talking about with basketball. And I think that's why the
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Speaker 1: league right now, as you know, I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say they've been quiet. I mean they've been certainly responsive
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Speaker 1: to some extent, but I think that they want to
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Speaker 1: see how it goes with other leagues that have started
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Speaker 1: or that are going to start, to see how they
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Speaker 1: can proceed and what might work and what might not work. Right.
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Speaker 1: But the last probably the last thing to do in
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars umbrella under the ownership group of the cons
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Speaker 1: Fulham Football Club and the Championship that the second league
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Speaker 1: in England. They start on Saturday, so they've had some
11:16
Speaker 1: warm ups to get ready, so that'll be really a
11:19
Speaker 1: first hand look with some of the Jaguars folks involved
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Speaker 1: in Fulham business as well over in London, so we'll
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Speaker 1: get a little better look there as well. Jeff Logan,
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Speaker 1: with US Jaguars analyst, joining us here on Jaguars Happy Hour, Well,
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Speaker 1: the real virtual offseason program is over. But on social
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Speaker 1: media this week we saw a glimpse into some Jaguars
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Speaker 1: getting out on a local high school field here and
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Speaker 1: starting to work a little bit together. Um, I believe
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew was involved, DJ Chark, handful of receivers, that
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Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, it's the first time I
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Speaker 1: think probably they've been able to get together on their own.
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Speaker 1: It's a good thing. I don't know, if you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get a lot of answers, is better than not doing it,
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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah. I mean it's something. And do we
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Speaker 1: know that that's the first time they've gotten together. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean if yeah, I mean that's and here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: If you have gotten together previously with a bunch of
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Speaker 1: guys with with having seen some of the criticism that
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Speaker 1: other players have gotten for gathering with teammates to play
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Speaker 1: catch or throw the football together, you know some guys
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Speaker 1: might have have done it at a little bit under
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Speaker 1: the shroud of secrecy, you know, just to not expose
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Speaker 1: themselves to criticism for not practicing quote unquote social distancing.
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Speaker 1: So but I mean it's good. I mean as much
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Speaker 1: as you can try to get together and throw I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, even though Uncle Rico did it. You know,
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Speaker 1: he can't sit out in park a van out in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the valley and to start throwing the
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Speaker 1: football over the mountain and get loose and feel like
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Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot of big workout. You know, you
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Speaker 1: got to throw the people. You gotta have speed, You've
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Speaker 1: got to have you know, your guys and Timey and so,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's good that they're doing that, and well,
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Speaker 1: you hope that they can do as much of that
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Speaker 1: as possible between now and the startup camp, just to
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Speaker 1: kind of keep things rolling along so that when you
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Speaker 1: do get the camp, or if there is a camp,
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Speaker 1: and if there everything is going smoothly that I don't
13:22
Speaker 1: want to say you can hit the ground running, because
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Speaker 1: I think that's a far cry from doing what you
13:27
Speaker 1: need to do to hit the ground running. But at
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Speaker 1: least you've had something that has has kind of kept
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Speaker 1: you loose and coming in feeling like, Okay, I'm not
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Speaker 1: just coming in cold. Jeff Lockman with US. Jann Warris
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Speaker 1: analysts the We've got the next three shows off, so
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Speaker 1: we're back July. I believe is that Thursday will have
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Speaker 1: this show return and hopefully we'll be about a week
13:50
Speaker 1: or so out from training camp. What's up in the
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Speaker 1: month ahead for you, locks, Uh, just just like what
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Speaker 1: it's been up for the last couple of months, DAP.
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Speaker 1: Lots of family, family time and uh and you know,
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Speaker 1: and and a little bit of work and other aspects
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Speaker 1: of my life. So it's all good, man. Family is good.
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Speaker 1: Life's good. Life's good and uh, you know, as as
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Speaker 1: as it can be with a worldwide pandemic. And uh, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: ribs are smoking on the girl right now, so it's
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Speaker 1: not bad. Oh. I can stand six ft away from
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Speaker 1: you if you want me to taste test though a
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Speaker 1: little Uh. Lots good stuff, man, Thanks for your time
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Speaker 1: throughout this pandemic, and we'll talk to you in a
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Speaker 1: few weeks. Man, Hi, JCC buddy, Jeff lockhaman smoking ribs.
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Speaker 1: Back in a moment, Steve White, NFL Network, we'll get
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Speaker 1: into the social justice initiatives that the Jaguars in the
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Speaker 1: be back with you in mid July. Time. Now to
19:49
Speaker 1: hear from Steve White, NFL Network reporter, analyst and host.
19:53
Speaker 1: Longtime reporter in the National Football League for a number
19:56
Speaker 1: of different publications, the Miami Harold he was an nb
20:00
Speaker 1: A writer for the Washington Post covering the Wizards and
20:03
Speaker 1: the league there for a little while in Atlanta with
20:05
Speaker 1: the Journal Constitution, and he's been with the NFL Network
20:09
Speaker 1: for a number of years now. Social justice causes for
20:12
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, but they were really the first team to
20:15
Speaker 1: to take a team approach. They were the first team
20:18
Speaker 1: to to march. We'll start there and Jack's owner Shot
20:21
Speaker 1: con I wrote the op ed piece that really set
20:24
Speaker 1: the tone for the organization and a lot of in
20:27
Speaker 1: a lot of ways the National Football League. You'll see
20:31
Speaker 1: the full video coming up early next week with Steve,
20:33
Speaker 1: but a little piece of the conversation coming up here
20:36
Speaker 1: Steve Whitch of NFL Network, starting with Jaguars owner Shot
20:42
Speaker 1: Khan and his op ed piece back on June three.
20:46
Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that piece when you first
20:48
Speaker 1: read him. Yeah, Look, I think it was important because
20:50
Speaker 1: as we know, Shan Khan is the only minority uh
20:55
Speaker 1: Prince blowner in the NFL, and so for him to
20:57
Speaker 1: come on writing op ed talking about some of the
20:59
Speaker 1: race is him that he's faced and of course he's
21:02
Speaker 1: he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise,
21:05
Speaker 1: but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know,
21:08
Speaker 1: and I really thought it was very important for him
21:11
Speaker 1: to say he was going to listen to his players,
21:13
Speaker 1: because that's something that owners have not necessarily done somehow,
21:19
Speaker 1: but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna
21:22
Speaker 1: do it this way or it's the highway. So the
21:25
Speaker 1: fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization,
21:28
Speaker 1: I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good,
21:33
Speaker 1: I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms,
21:36
Speaker 1: and as players know that, they can seize control of
21:40
Speaker 1: the narrative or what is going to happen with the
21:43
Speaker 1: players without any type of obstruction. See do you think
21:47
Speaker 1: that will be something that Mr Khan starts that other
21:51
Speaker 1: owners maybe taken and use on their own as well.
21:54
Speaker 1: Is that something like you said in the past that
21:56
Speaker 1: some are dictatorial, It doesn't really work like that a
21:59
Speaker 1: lot of places. Can this be a leaguewide phenomenon. We'll see. Um.
22:04
Speaker 1: You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've
22:06
Speaker 1: made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions
22:08
Speaker 1: behind their words? And some owners have been very active.
22:11
Speaker 1: David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers summer ties with their
22:14
Speaker 1: big security agency because they're their CEO of their head
22:18
Speaker 1: was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about
22:21
Speaker 1: what people are protesting against. So you know that this
22:25
Speaker 1: is a wait and see. But I do think Shan
22:27
Speaker 1: Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown
22:30
Speaker 1: significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but
22:33
Speaker 1: I think absolutely to his players and people in the
22:37
Speaker 1: community who can see that the influence the Jaguars could
22:40
Speaker 1: have and kind of being a guiding hand and measures
22:44
Speaker 1: to be taken to kind of make some some repairs
22:46
Speaker 1: to what's going on right now, certainly in a town
22:49
Speaker 1: like this that the Jaguars are the big fish here
22:51
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So whatever happens from this organization makes a
22:55
Speaker 1: big impact of the community. We've seen that already with
22:57
Speaker 1: the players marches through down town, including the mayor and
23:01
Speaker 1: the sheriff. You don't get a lot of work both
23:05
Speaker 1: ways in a lot of places, but jackson Bill is
23:07
Speaker 1: a place where that has happened so far, it has,
23:10
Speaker 1: you know, and what's interesting is, you know some of
23:13
Speaker 1: these things have been player legs all Leonard for NET
23:15
Speaker 1: and some people you know, take take that the hold
23:17
Speaker 1: of that, and some of them organizationally led. I mean,
23:20
Speaker 1: think back when you were a little kid. I mean,
23:22
Speaker 1: even if you've got a chance to meet the NFL
23:24
Speaker 1: player or even see one you know on the sideline
23:27
Speaker 1: close or in person and autograph signing whatever. Even if
23:31
Speaker 1: you know that person said you like, hey, you can
23:33
Speaker 1: be a star, You're gonna think, man, he told me
23:36
Speaker 1: I can be a star. And so players understand the
23:39
Speaker 1: influence of the voice of the pro athlete or the
23:42
Speaker 1: or the head coach. And that's something you know, you're
23:47
Speaker 1: seeing one and more players recognized during this situation, this movement,
23:52
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that we're in right now.
23:54
Speaker 1: I think they're understanding that, Yeah, we may not be
23:57
Speaker 1: able to change the minds to some people who older,
24:00
Speaker 1: who are ingrained, we can teach these young people or
24:03
Speaker 1: show these young people away that we can be better
24:06
Speaker 1: and more tolerant and more accepting. And that's what I
24:10
Speaker 1: think so many people are forgetting about because maybe the
24:12
Speaker 1: people who aren't buying the tickets but would be the
24:14
Speaker 1: next generation to buy the tickets, those can be the
24:17
Speaker 1: significant influencers. Are those to be influenced in this moment.
24:21
Speaker 1: Steve Weich with us NFL Media, one of the highly
24:24
Speaker 1: respected reporters on NFL Network and has been around the
24:28
Speaker 1: league for a long time. You, Steve obviously broke the
24:32
Speaker 1: story back in August of of why Colin Kaepernick was
24:37
Speaker 1: first sitting and then kneeling during the national anthem, And
24:40
Speaker 1: we bring that up because his name is again at
24:43
Speaker 1: the forefront of the league's I guess awakening is a
24:47
Speaker 1: good term for what has happened over the last few weeks.
24:50
Speaker 1: Why what are your thoughts on why it was so
24:52
Speaker 1: controversial then and why that maybe has changed and his
24:57
Speaker 1: story is moving this forward. Yeah, great question, And you
25:00
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think Kaepernick necessarily was simply why
25:03
Speaker 1: things have changed with the league this time, I think
25:05
Speaker 1: it's changed with the nation. I mean, you're hearing news
25:07
Speaker 1: agencies and people bring up his name, um in this moment,
25:11
Speaker 1: because he told us, you know, when he first did
25:16
Speaker 1: not stand and then eventually kneel during the playing of
25:18
Speaker 1: the national anthem. A lot of people got hung up
25:21
Speaker 1: on the fact that he wasn't standing for the national
25:23
Speaker 1: anthem when he was saying he was protesting some of
25:26
Speaker 1: both the police brutalities and judicial injustices that we're seeing
25:30
Speaker 1: come to the forefront right now. Of course it was punctuated,
25:33
Speaker 1: um with the killing of George Floyd. And I think
25:36
Speaker 1: anybody because we're all home from this COVID right we're
25:39
Speaker 1: all watching our TVs who can't escape it. Anybody who
25:42
Speaker 1: saw the police officer with his knee on George Floyd's
25:46
Speaker 1: neck and George Floyd dying and screaming for his his
25:48
Speaker 1: dead mother. Um, that wasn't a matter of black or white.
25:52
Speaker 1: That was a matter of right and wrong. And so
25:54
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons for the ground swell.
25:57
Speaker 1: And so this is what Kaepernick was talking about. So
26:00
Speaker 1: people can harken back. Let's they see he was trying.
26:03
Speaker 1: He was trying to tell us he wasn't trying to
26:05
Speaker 1: offend anybody at that time by not standing for the
26:10
Speaker 1: national anthem. He was trying to offend us, to touch
26:14
Speaker 1: the nerve that we're accepting too often of black and
26:18
Speaker 1: brown people being killed by law enforcement or being or
26:23
Speaker 1: those or those law enforcement officers not being held accountable
26:26
Speaker 1: for some of their behaviors. So I think that's part
26:28
Speaker 1: of it, um and that's why I think you're hearing
26:31
Speaker 1: more and more than narrative, especially when it comes to
26:33
Speaker 1: NFL athletes. Instead of saying I'm protesting, they're explaining why.
26:38
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing I did the first article
26:40
Speaker 1: I wrote about this, I explained why he was doing it.
26:43
Speaker 1: But of course again that got lost in translation very quickly.
26:47
Speaker 1: Steve White with us NFL Network, final thought on Kaepernick here,
26:52
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a ground swell now for
26:54
Speaker 1: him to be signed at some point by an NFL team.
26:57
Speaker 1: I think the commissioner even mentioned his name the other
26:59
Speaker 1: day in an interview. Do you think a team will
27:03
Speaker 1: sign him? And what type of team can handle this situation? Yeah,
27:07
Speaker 1: it was interesting first off there, Roger Goodell said publicly
27:10
Speaker 1: that Hey, I've encouraged teams to sign Colin Kaepernick privately.
27:14
Speaker 1: He's done that for years, like, hey, you know he's
27:16
Speaker 1: a free agent. You know you guys can sign him. Um,
27:19
Speaker 1: but it hasn't happened, Which is why I think at
27:21
Speaker 1: this point I don't expect the team to sign him.
27:25
Speaker 1: I really don't. It's they've had three years to do
27:28
Speaker 1: it most of these teams. That means they've had three
27:31
Speaker 1: drafts to kind of come up with their their quarterback
27:34
Speaker 1: development cycle. Even though even the fact that calf has
27:37
Speaker 1: been out of not play football in three years, you
27:39
Speaker 1: can look at some backup quarterbacks and kind of say,
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, he could he could probably at least compete.
27:46
Speaker 1: But you know a team, you know, like the Jaguars,
27:50
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Glennon is there, but there there's someone
27:52
Speaker 1: he could come in and compete and be the backup,
27:54
Speaker 1: you know, Gardner Minshews who they're rolling with the starter.
27:57
Speaker 1: But then you say to yourself, and this is an
28:00
Speaker 1: interesting the academy. I've had someone you know, bring this
28:03
Speaker 1: to my attention. Do you bring him into a locker
28:05
Speaker 1: room where he could either be polarizing or more popular
28:08
Speaker 1: than your starter, And would you even worry about it
28:12
Speaker 1: because odds are there aren't gonna be any media in
28:15
Speaker 1: the locker rooms at least for the first few weeks
28:17
Speaker 1: of training camp and maybe the regular season to ask
28:20
Speaker 1: players consistently about this, which has always been something that
28:24
Speaker 1: has been a distraction in that conversation. So I don't
28:28
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen um, but maybe some team will
28:33
Speaker 1: do it. And then you have to ask yourself, will
28:35
Speaker 1: Kaepernick be willing to do it um? Because he made
28:39
Speaker 1: his view as a patronizing gesture instead of this is
28:43
Speaker 1: a sincere attempt, you know, to get him a job
28:46
Speaker 1: back in the NFL. But he may just say forget
28:47
Speaker 1: it anyway, I want to play. I'm gonna give it
28:49
Speaker 1: a shot. We just don't know. Steve Weiss with this
28:52
Speaker 1: NFL network, you touched on a little bit of this
28:55
Speaker 1: a moment ago, but the next steps for players, ownership, organizations,
29:01
Speaker 1: and the league as a hole in this movement. You know,
29:04
Speaker 1: this is the the dead period of the off season.
29:06
Speaker 1: Players have been away all off season anyway, but they're
29:10
Speaker 1: really away now. Does this momentum stay until training camp?
29:15
Speaker 1: And then I guess the next question is what does
29:17
Speaker 1: training camp look like? And I think you just talked
29:18
Speaker 1: about it. They're a little bit without media possibly and
29:21
Speaker 1: then without fans. Maybe at some point the league is
29:24
Speaker 1: still holding hope. The next steps, I think are the
29:27
Speaker 1: big question here. How does this momentum caring? Yeah, you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: look it's interesting. I've got a I just an interview
29:32
Speaker 1: with three Vikings players because they felt it was important
29:35
Speaker 1: to talk about this. It's gonna air on our programming
29:38
Speaker 1: this week because they're ground zero right there in Minneapolis
29:40
Speaker 1: where the George Floyd interne had happened, and this was
29:43
Speaker 1: kind of the trigger point, and they said it is
29:46
Speaker 1: up to them as players, right, they've got to do
29:48
Speaker 1: their jobs. Excuse me, but used the platform, excuse me,
29:53
Speaker 1: the NFL Sundays their practices and their their profiles to
29:59
Speaker 1: still talk about this. Yes, they know the playing games
30:03
Speaker 1: is their occupation and that's what they're going to be
30:04
Speaker 1: focused on. But that is where being on their Tuesday
30:08
Speaker 1: off days or through some private type of pregame projects
30:13
Speaker 1: or whatever postgame project. They've got to keep that going again,
30:17
Speaker 1: We'll see. Um. You know, the football is a tough sport.
30:20
Speaker 1: You really got to lock in on. Players have done
30:22
Speaker 1: this before. This is nothing new in terms of community service.
30:26
Speaker 1: As for how things are gonna look with COVID nineteen
30:29
Speaker 1: still still you know out there and and you know,
30:32
Speaker 1: not really going away. In a lot of places, we
30:35
Speaker 1: still don't know. Man, JP, it's there. There's so much unknown.
30:38
Speaker 1: Teams are spoken to some folks with teams that they're
30:40
Speaker 1: waiting on the lead from the league. The league is
30:43
Speaker 1: kind of saying, well, we've got thirty two different markets.
30:45
Speaker 1: We've got to see what's going on there. But you know,
30:49
Speaker 1: clearly from everything I'm hearing, you know, media training camp,
30:54
Speaker 1: there's either gonna be none or it could be something
30:56
Speaker 1: where like say media coverage, we're you know, we're parked
30:58
Speaker 1: in a tent and the players are here and we're
31:02
Speaker 1: not gonna have any even six ft away interaction. UM,
31:06
Speaker 1: social distancing and team facilities. You know, how teams are
31:11
Speaker 1: gonna work with players. You know, we're we're hearing about testing.
31:14
Speaker 1: Um of course, training camps are gonna be a team facilities.
31:17
Speaker 1: And we get two games. Will there be fans or
31:18
Speaker 1: won't there be fans? Because because here's something I think about,
31:21
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have to. Let's just say the
31:24
Speaker 1: league goes half capacity at stadiums pregame, What are those
31:28
Speaker 1: thousand fans likely going to be doing on the park tailgating?
31:34
Speaker 1: So are there gonna be social distancing while their tail game? Right?
31:38
Speaker 1: So then so then they come into the stadium if
31:41
Speaker 1: you have people every other row, but if you've got
31:43
Speaker 1: someone there to your left and right, how's that gonna work?
31:46
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's I mean, I'm sure it's so
31:50
Speaker 1: complex because there's so many different things happening in so
31:52
Speaker 1: many different cities. On the risk that the NFL wants
31:56
Speaker 1: to put its players and trainers and coaches and staffers
31:58
Speaker 1: in and the risk that they want to put fans
32:01
Speaker 1: in um because in all honesty, who knows if there's
32:05
Speaker 1: gonna be a vaccine or a cure for this anytime
32:08
Speaker 1: in the near future. And so there's just so many variables,
32:13
Speaker 1: and we've got about five or six weeks to figure
32:15
Speaker 1: it out. It's very very hard to tell. And I myself,
32:19
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you are eager to find out how
32:21
Speaker 1: where this is going to go, we certainly are. That's
32:24
Speaker 1: Steve White, NFL Network at whitech eighty nine on Twitter
32:29
Speaker 1: and a really good follow there, very active the last
32:33
Speaker 1: few weeks with everything going on around the national football
32:35
Speaker 1: again and the country early as a whole. A good
32:38
Speaker 1: perspective there from Steve, and you know, as the last
32:43
Speaker 1: note there is the one we discussed with Logs as well.
32:46
Speaker 1: We all know, until we get closer to training camp
32:50
Speaker 1: and and see if this thing dies down at all,
32:53
Speaker 1: or if there's a vaccine of some sort that comes
32:56
Speaker 1: on the market, that's um all up in the air.
32:59
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Speaker 1: day away tomorrow the nineteen, the three month anniversary of
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Speaker 1: what what? What was our final show at t I
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Speaker 1: A bank Field before the lockedown. Of course, all the
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Speaker 1: many of the sports shut down the week prior to that.
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Speaker 1: On that Thursday and Friday that was players weekend, and
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Speaker 1: then um, we were in the office another few days
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Speaker 1: after that, and then finally that Thursday night, the March
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Speaker 1: nineteenth was our final show. And we haven't been back
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Speaker 1: opened up some parts of the organization. Another person who
37:51
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37:54
Speaker 1: John Osier, who joins us on the phone. Now, John,
37:56
Speaker 1: good afternoon. Yeah, I'm kind of picturing Jake my desk.
38:01
Speaker 1: Like I used to go down to Miami right after
38:04
Speaker 1: Dan marine I retired and they had his locker. They're
38:08
Speaker 1: just sort of like encased it with glass. And it
38:11
Speaker 1: was like it was when he retired. So I picture
38:17
Speaker 1: like my in my crappy shirt that he said, sitting there.
38:21
Speaker 1: It's kind of sitting there all all wadded up encasing glass. Uh. Yeah,
38:28
Speaker 1: it's um gonna be frozen in time. I think our
38:31
Speaker 1: whole office in time. Yeah, what was It's crazy, it's uh,
38:37
Speaker 1: but it's uh, it's the time we live in. It's
38:41
Speaker 1: it's an odd, odd time. It sounds like, you know,
38:43
Speaker 1: there's probably already dust settled on all of that down
38:45
Speaker 1: at the stadium, but it sounds like there's gonna be
38:48
Speaker 1: at least double the dust. You know. I don't think
38:50
Speaker 1: we'll be in there doing anything for a while. John,
38:53
Speaker 1: that didn't seem like it, And uh, I think we
38:55
Speaker 1: talked about it last week. It just feels like and logically,
39:01
Speaker 1: so I was getting questions about it two weeks ago. Hey,
39:05
Speaker 1: do you feel like the NFL is being overly cautious
39:08
Speaker 1: in all that? Yeah, it just feels like they're not
39:11
Speaker 1: in the lock except with everybody else. Well, as we've
39:15
Speaker 1: seen the last couple of weeks, I don't think the
39:17
Speaker 1: NFL is being overly cautious. I think they're being correctly cautious.
39:20
Speaker 1: They realized that the more people who were together, the
39:24
Speaker 1: greatest uh you know, without extreme caution, the greater chance
39:29
Speaker 1: there is for flare up or whatever you call it.
39:32
Speaker 1: So I expect them to proceed with the absolutely most
39:40
Speaker 1: costume because I don't know how else they would proceed.
39:42
Speaker 1: I mean, they realized that people together, uh sweating which
39:47
Speaker 1: players will do, is going to be an extreme caution situation.
39:52
Speaker 1: They've got to figure out to andale it. So I
39:54
Speaker 1: don't anticipate being back around them. I just say I
39:58
Speaker 1: saw talking Jags and covering the team. But how that's
40:01
Speaker 1: gonna play out, how the season is going to play out? Um,
40:05
Speaker 1: you know, I wrote today in the Ozone I think
40:07
Speaker 1: or maybe it's for tomorrow. This has been a the weirdest,
40:11
Speaker 1: most obstacle filled off season that you could possibly imagine,
40:16
Speaker 1: and I expect the regular season to be that. Times
40:19
Speaker 1: ten senior writer John Osian with us you mentioned the Ozone.
40:22
Speaker 1: How many consecutive days is your streak of ozone posts? Now?
40:28
Speaker 1: You know it's it's uh, I don't really I don't
40:31
Speaker 1: really count it in terms of the days because you
40:33
Speaker 1: gotta go. I started the best in my recollection, and
40:38
Speaker 1: I said to get the original date messed up and
40:39
Speaker 1: I to go back and check it either August eleventh
40:42
Speaker 1: or four of two thousand eleven, so whatever that adds
40:46
Speaker 1: up to one of those days it was. It was
40:49
Speaker 1: a Sunday, and unfortunately for me, I kind of started it.
40:54
Speaker 1: This was back when there was some doubt over whether
40:57
Speaker 1: Jaguars games would be uh blacked out or not. That
41:01
Speaker 1: was still a thing, and I sort of made the
41:04
Speaker 1: cream and hey all, I'll do this every day and
41:10
Speaker 1: until it gain is blacked out, sort of making the
41:12
Speaker 1: point that I didn't think at that point anymore would
41:15
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41:17
Speaker 1: hey all, well guess what, jpre put your money where
41:23
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41:25
Speaker 1: I do it anymore. As we've talked about, it's not
41:29
Speaker 1: overly hard the answer fans questions, and it seems like
41:34
Speaker 1: read it every day. Uh, it's just for me to
41:37
Speaker 1: sit down and answer Jaguars sans questions. I feel fortunate
41:40
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41:43
Speaker 1: of people, a lot frankly and in the industry came
41:46
Speaker 1: from don't have the opportunity. So the answer some questions
41:50
Speaker 1: for people, and uh, I think most people have a
41:52
Speaker 1: good time when they're reading it. To do that really
41:55
Speaker 1: isn't bad. Hard's deal and you know you're getting questions.
42:00
Speaker 1: When you stop getting questions, you know there are bigger issues.
42:03
Speaker 1: So there is any no doubt. Um, John, you've started
42:08
Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. We've touched on this the last few weeks,
42:10
Speaker 1: but this week we visited with Terry Robisky, running backs coach,
42:14
Speaker 1: and Marcus Pollard, the director of player development, And those
42:18
Speaker 1: are two gentlemen that were instrumental in the march from
42:21
Speaker 1: the stadium to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps. Robiski has
42:26
Speaker 1: been around this league for darn near forty years and
42:30
Speaker 1: as an assistant coach starting with the Raiders way back
42:33
Speaker 1: in the early eighties after a short playing career that
42:36
Speaker 1: was injury shortened. In fact, Marcus Pollard had a long
42:40
Speaker 1: career in the NFL as a tight end, was a
42:43
Speaker 1: basketball player coming up and then worked his way in
42:46
Speaker 1: the NFL a long career there and now on the
42:49
Speaker 1: football side, basically as an advisor of sorts for players.
42:54
Speaker 1: But Um, these guys were right there in the front
42:58
Speaker 1: of this thing a few weeks ago, and it was
43:01
Speaker 1: what a forty four minute podcast you had with them
43:04
Speaker 1: this week? What what extra did you get out of
43:06
Speaker 1: the conversation with him this week that maybe we didn't
43:08
Speaker 1: hear a couple of weeks ago. Well, the reason I
43:11
Speaker 1: wanted to have him on UM is, first of all,
43:15
Speaker 1: they represent probably close to sixty cumulative years of NFL experience.
43:21
Speaker 1: H Terry has been at it, as you said, since
43:24
Speaker 1: seventy seven markets started in the league, and he hasn't.
43:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was out of the league
43:31
Speaker 1: for three or four years between retiring and comes to Jaguar.
43:34
Speaker 1: So these guys have seen a lot. And it struck
43:37
Speaker 1: me you were there with me JP when Terry talked
43:40
Speaker 1: about I thought Terry was incredibly moving when he talked
43:45
Speaker 1: during the March, I guess it's been two or three
43:47
Speaker 1: weeks now too, and but he talked for maybe a
43:51
Speaker 1: minute and a half or two minutes, and it struck
43:54
Speaker 1: me that certainly, if he was interesting in that regard,
43:57
Speaker 1: if Mark's was interesting on the on the steps during
44:01
Speaker 1: an emotional time, that there had to be a lot
44:04
Speaker 1: more and some background into what they were talking about
44:08
Speaker 1: that they could talk about there. So I hope that
44:10
Speaker 1: by having them on I could get a little more
44:12
Speaker 1: of a feel for why for Terry Robiski it was
44:16
Speaker 1: it was so moving for him to have heard what
44:18
Speaker 1: shod Con wrote or to have read what sid Con
44:21
Speaker 1: wrote on the website when he talked about as essay
44:25
Speaker 1: on racism, and to talk about what Doug Morone's leadership
44:30
Speaker 1: had meant, and he talks about both things on the steps,
44:35
Speaker 1: and in talking to both of them, they both expanded
44:41
Speaker 1: on that and expanded on a lot of the issues
44:43
Speaker 1: as to why what the players are doing and why
44:49
Speaker 1: the actions that they are taking on the racial equality,
44:55
Speaker 1: racial social justice, whatever we're calling it, why that matter
45:00
Speaker 1: to them so much, and why they believe in their
45:03
Speaker 1: hearts that this feels different and why it's so important
45:08
Speaker 1: in all the issues. So it was as interesting and
45:13
Speaker 1: as insightful, I think as I thought it would be,
45:15
Speaker 1: and I thought the most interesting thing that came from it.
45:19
Speaker 1: Both of them talked, and both of them kept circling
45:22
Speaker 1: back even when this wasn't the topic, to how important
45:27
Speaker 1: that Doug morons approach in terms of making everybody feel
45:34
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about this or as comfortable as as possible,
45:37
Speaker 1: and promoting the conversation how important that's been. So our
45:43
Speaker 1: podcast next week is talking to coach Maron about some
45:46
Speaker 1: of the same issues, and I think it's taken in total.
45:50
Speaker 1: I think it's a chance if you listen to it
45:52
Speaker 1: for about an hour and a half, you really get
45:55
Speaker 1: a full feel for how some of these conversations started,
45:58
Speaker 1: the tone of it, why that he feels like it's important,
46:01
Speaker 1: and most importantly, why they feel like it will continue
46:05
Speaker 1: to be an important topic that everybody takes seriously, even
46:11
Speaker 1: within the context of the season. So long answer, obviously,
46:15
Speaker 1: but I certainly feel like we were able to talk
46:18
Speaker 1: about a lot of issues that are really important right now.
46:22
Speaker 1: And this is going to be important obviously throughout this season.
46:26
Speaker 1: And you know, Doug Moron is going to carve out
46:29
Speaker 1: time in the weekly schedule to have conversations about this
46:32
Speaker 1: with his football team. That's that's really a slam dunk
46:35
Speaker 1: for him. I think he's definitely gonna do that, and um,
46:39
Speaker 1: you know, I think the players wouldn't like it if
46:42
Speaker 1: he didn't like they were gonna talk about it anyway,
46:44
Speaker 1: So make the time for it, address it the right way,
46:47
Speaker 1: and I think that's the way the Jaguars are going
46:49
Speaker 1: to go here. John O's your senior writer Jaguars dot
46:52
Speaker 1: Com with us. You know, we we touched a little
46:55
Speaker 1: bit the last couple of weeks on this three four
46:58
Speaker 1: four three defense thing um, and we have it's certainly overblown.
47:04
Speaker 1: It's not Madden. You're not like you know, Todd wash
47:07
Speaker 1: said that they haven't changed anything they've taught on their
47:12
Speaker 1: defensive front. That you know, they still have the same
47:15
Speaker 1: fronts that they've had, but they just have some different
47:17
Speaker 1: personnel and then move some guys around a little bit.
47:21
Speaker 1: But it's not like you're gonna choose the three four
47:24
Speaker 1: defense in this on this play and Madden and the
47:27
Speaker 1: next play bringing the four three and it's a totally
47:29
Speaker 1: different look. That's that's not what this thing feels like
47:32
Speaker 1: at all. Well, and so listen to Todd talk about it.
47:35
Speaker 1: Listen to dug up at a little bit. They will
47:39
Speaker 1: be in some front where they line up and it
47:43
Speaker 1: looks like a three four when tode defense, what he
47:48
Speaker 1: means is they are not a pure I you know,
47:53
Speaker 1: old Pittsburgh Steelers, we had a huge nose tackle and
47:57
Speaker 1: then you had to quote defensive ends who were really
48:01
Speaker 1: glamorized defensive tackles who didn't rush the past or they
48:04
Speaker 1: weren't shooting gaps, and he said they're not really a
48:07
Speaker 1: two gap team because teams that have those kind of
48:10
Speaker 1: players asked those guys just to fill gaps and not
48:13
Speaker 1: to rest the quarterback very much, and they're not quick twitch,
48:17
Speaker 1: hit gap kind of players. The Jaguars have more players
48:21
Speaker 1: who were one gap style, So it sounds like the
48:24
Speaker 1: biggest difference is the strong sidelinebacker, who in this scheme
48:28
Speaker 1: has been a Leon Jacobs type who plays off the ball,
48:32
Speaker 1: who's pursuing side to side. They have more guys who
48:36
Speaker 1: from that position can go line up put their hand
48:39
Speaker 1: on the ground. And everybody I've talked to, and I
48:41
Speaker 1: talked to Jason Rebovitch about this a couple of weeks ago,
48:44
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to run the story until Tid
48:45
Speaker 1: had had a chance to talk. He said the same
48:48
Speaker 1: thing to Ti to talk about. It's about versatility, and
48:52
Speaker 1: it's about being able to give the offenses more pre
48:56
Speaker 1: snap looks that aren't eight four three looks. So they're
49:02
Speaker 1: gonna use these players because uniqu can do this, and
49:05
Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do this and Cassius marsh they can
49:08
Speaker 1: line up as defensive ends or lineback. That's the biggest
49:12
Speaker 1: difference rather than the three or four four three in
49:15
Speaker 1: a look, by the way, the p that is about
49:19
Speaker 1: of what they do. So it's it's a lot of
49:23
Speaker 1: talk about. You know, I've had people actually get mad. Oh,
49:27
Speaker 1: Todd wash is an idiot because he's not running a
49:30
Speaker 1: three four? What how do you do? You know, they're
49:35
Speaker 1: trying to find a steam that fits their person now
49:39
Speaker 1: the best no matter what you call. There's no magic
49:42
Speaker 1: two or three four. Their defense wasn't bad last year
49:46
Speaker 1: because they didn't run a three four. It was bad
49:48
Speaker 1: because a lot of the players they had weren't playing
49:51
Speaker 1: as well, they were getting old, and now they're trying
49:53
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to revamp the schemes. Anyway, JP,
49:57
Speaker 1: it's a literally it's a little bit of a pet
49:59
Speaker 1: peeve of But that's fine. That's why I brought it up.
50:01
Speaker 1: I knew it. Yeah, I wanted to get a reaction
50:04
Speaker 1: out of you, John. They're trying to figure out the
50:08
Speaker 1: best team to fit the players that they've gone and gotten.
50:11
Speaker 1: Then that's what they're going to be doing. What they
50:12
Speaker 1: should do, right, it makes sense. Yeah, and I'll keep
50:18
Speaker 1: great questions about the three four three and and that's fine,
50:22
Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot of it's gonna be different. Look,
50:27
Speaker 1: it's gonna be what this scheme has been all along,
50:29
Speaker 1: a hybrid four three three four team that depending on
50:34
Speaker 1: the personnel, can change based on the personnel. John Osha
50:38
Speaker 1: with us. You mentioned that unique and got Quai's name
50:40
Speaker 1: in there, and that has been pretty quiet as of late.
50:43
Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of tweeting going on
50:45
Speaker 1: a month or two ago from John, and you know,
50:50
Speaker 1: there's all as we've mentioned in the past, there's only
50:53
Speaker 1: a few different things that can happen here on this thing.
50:56
Speaker 1: But I'm curious if that heats up at some point
51:00
Speaker 1: and if there's a deal done or a trade done
51:05
Speaker 1: or what. You know, we just haven't heard from that
51:08
Speaker 1: in a while, you know. Yeah, And it feels like
51:13
Speaker 1: nothing to be said and nothing to say for a while,
51:17
Speaker 1: and that one ly fIF team rolls around or whatever,
51:21
Speaker 1: this will start bubbling up into a topic again. I
51:24
Speaker 1: would anticipate complete from me, Hon at some point, wouldn't
51:28
Speaker 1: surprise me. I I just don't know, really what's going
51:33
Speaker 1: to change from what David called was that after the draft,
51:36
Speaker 1: which is a hey, we welcome him back. They didn't
51:40
Speaker 1: get any deals. My understanding is they are in no
51:43
Speaker 1: hurry and not of the inclination to trade Unique got way.
51:49
Speaker 1: This is not a situation where the jag wardor saying
51:51
Speaker 1: we need him out of the building. They want him
51:53
Speaker 1: in the building. So right now, if if he doesn't
51:58
Speaker 1: play for the Jaguars, he doesn't play so and and
52:01
Speaker 1: more importantly, probably he doesn't get paid. So is is
52:06
Speaker 1: that just smoke? Are they looking to trade him sometime
52:09
Speaker 1: in August? I don't think that. I I don't know
52:12
Speaker 1: how it'll play out, but I don't know that. A
52:14
Speaker 1: whole lot of scenes from last of the Draft and
52:17
Speaker 1: last the Draft is fel like if he doesn't play here,
52:18
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. Maybe that's why he's being quiet.
52:22
Speaker 1: I always has to want to answer this sha. I
52:25
Speaker 1: don't really like to put words in Unique mouth because
52:29
Speaker 1: he's perfectly capable of tween that on his own. And
52:32
Speaker 1: I'll be up front, I don't talk to Unique during
52:34
Speaker 1: the off season just because I'm not calling players on
52:37
Speaker 1: that regard. So I don't know what he's thinking or
52:39
Speaker 1: why he does what he goes. I like covering him.
52:43
Speaker 1: I hope he plays for the Jaguars. But because of
52:47
Speaker 1: his personality type, which is he's his own guy. Now,
52:51
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by that, he's gonna do what
52:52
Speaker 1: he wants to do. I can't predict what he's gonna
52:55
Speaker 1: play it next year. I hope he does. Well. We
52:58
Speaker 1: got the summer months there to get to training camp
53:02
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens on that front. And
53:04
Speaker 1: h you know, that's a big if obviously, the training
53:06
Speaker 1: camp and all that. Hey, thanks man, appreciate you over
53:10
Speaker 1: the last few months here. Well, we're taking the next
53:12
Speaker 1: three weeks off, but we'll be back about that. We'll
53:19
Speaker 1: catch back up with you in mid July about that, alright, Retty,
53:23
Speaker 1: thank you, all right, Johnny john os Or, Senior writer
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Speaker 1: months on the Jaguars Happy Hour other programming. The full
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Speaker 1: list on on my Twitter bait to run it out
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Speaker 1: of time, but thank you for everyone involved the last
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Speaker 1: three months. We got the next three weeks off. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you again July sixteenth. That's Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Have a great song.