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I Am All In…Again: Justice for Lindsay · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's you.
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  Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcasts Special
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  Speaker 1: special edition one eleven productions iHeartRadio Media Podcast. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell you we got a special edition here with Yes
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  Speaker 1: you wanted her, You've got her again Ariel Cabell. So
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  Speaker 1: here she is. Hey, Ariel, thanks for coming back on boy.
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  Speaker 1: The fans really like you and we have an episode
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  Speaker 1: we have we're calling justice for Lindsey. Hashtag justice for Lindsey.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's what we're doing. Lindsay Listener first appeared in
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  Speaker 1: season three Gilmore Girls as Dean's girlfriend. Many ways represented
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  Speaker 1: Rory's opposite.
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  Speaker 4: She is tall and blonde and content with the idea
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  Speaker 4: of being a stay at home wife and future mother,
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  Speaker 4: which aligns with Dean's idea of a marriage that was
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  Speaker 4: presented in that Damn Donna Reed. The two eventually got
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  Speaker 4: more serious, tied to Knot, but their marriage only lasted
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  Speaker 4: about a year after Lindsay discovered.
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  Speaker 1: Dean cheated on her with Rory. Many fans sympathize with Lindsey,
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  Speaker 1: feeling she was unfairly portrayed and mistreated in this series.
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  Speaker 1: They believed Dean was largely to blame for their troubled
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  Speaker 1: marriage due to his lingering feelings for Rory, and they
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  Speaker 1: criticized for Rory for engaging in an affair with him.
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  Speaker 1: Larel is also faulted for not holding Rory accountable. A
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  Speaker 1: confrontation scene with Lindsay's mother is seen as a justified
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  Speaker 1: reaction to the hurt cause all right, fan questions, You ready, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it. All right, now, it's time to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what are fans saying about Lindsay today to you,
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  Speaker 1: Ariel that they weren't saying when the show first aired.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a question for me?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, No, that's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The common thing is justice for Lindsay.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm kind of like, huh, because I love hearing that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think I told you this, and we started
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  Speaker 5: to talk about it at the cod back when we
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  Speaker 5: were filming it. People were such hardcore Rory Dean fans that.
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  Speaker 2: I would literally be in a coffee shop. I remember distinctly.
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  Speaker 5: I was in coffee Bean on Sunset Boulevard in a
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  Speaker 5: like the Lord juicy jumpsuit because that was.
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  Speaker 2: Cool that that meant you were dilish in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: And I was on the phone with my mom because
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  Speaker 5: I called my parent in every single day, and I
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  Speaker 5: hear these girls.
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  Speaker 6: Go excuse me, are you and get more girls and
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, hang on, mom, you know so, and I.
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  Speaker 5: Said, yes, yes I am, and they go in sync,
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  Speaker 5: they go, we hate you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man getting there.
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  Speaker 2: In line like oh, I gotta go. And that was
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  Speaker 2: actually a very common reaction back in the day. People
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  Speaker 2: did not like that.
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  Speaker 5: They saw it from my understanding, as you know, my
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  Speaker 5: character was this disruption between Rory and Dean, and they
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  Speaker 5: just really wanted to see the two of them together
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  Speaker 5: and I was getting in the way of that, and
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  Speaker 5: so a lot of hate back in the day, and
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  Speaker 5: I think actually happy when I was gone. Present cut
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  Speaker 5: to present day, I've had more mothers and daughters come
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  Speaker 5: up to me and say justice for Lindsay didn't deserve
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  Speaker 5: that he You know, we can't believe that Rory reacted
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  Speaker 5: that way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really like across the board.
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  Speaker 1: Like, wow, do you remember reading the script and seeing
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  Speaker 1: that you were getting cheated on with Rory? Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember how it felt?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to know how messed up this is? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I remember reading the script. I actually thought the cheating
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  Speaker 5: made more sense than us getting married. I remember reading
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  Speaker 5: the script where we got married, and I was like, what,
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  Speaker 5: that was harder for me to wrap my head around.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if that just means I'm really messed up,
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  Speaker 5: but I because we were just so young and we
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  Speaker 5: were so fresh in this relationship. I was really trying
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  Speaker 5: to wrap my head around, Okay, we just took this
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  Speaker 5: jump to marriage. So I guess by the time the
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  Speaker 5: cheating came, I was like, well, yeah, of course, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like what else was going to happen? Right, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what that says about me.
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  Speaker 1: But why do you think Lindsay didn't directly confront Rory
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  Speaker 1: after she found the note?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think deep down she always knew.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's like I remember that episode where she's like baking
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  Speaker 5: him cupcakes with gummy bears on top.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like.
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  Speaker 5: She's doing all these things to just these acts of service,
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  Speaker 5: to just show her.
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  Speaker 2: Love and this commitment to him.
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  Speaker 5: And you can feel, even if someone's not saying it,
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  Speaker 5: you can feel when someone's not all in right. And
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  Speaker 5: so I think I think she felt like, dang, I
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  Speaker 5: wish I was wrong, but I was right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's say, let's give you the power over
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  Speaker 1: your character. You're the writer, Okay, you determine what Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: should have done. What should it have been in your estimation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I love that she threw his stuff out the window.
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  Speaker 2: That was fine. I thought about power. I loved that
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  Speaker 2: they gave me that power. I thought that great my voice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they have me screaming for hours, so.
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  Speaker 5: That I loved What should she have done? You know?
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  Speaker 5: I think at some point it would have been nice
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  Speaker 5: if she wasn't going to have a conversation with Rory,
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  Speaker 5: to be able once the screaming and the hurt and
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  Speaker 5: the you know, after shock or the shock had worn off,
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  Speaker 5: to be able to really look in the eyes and
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  Speaker 5: confront him, because at the end of the day, well,
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  Speaker 5: number one, that's scarier even than someone yelling and throwing
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  Speaker 5: out your coasts. To really have like the stillness of
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  Speaker 5: looking someone in their eyes and having a real conversation
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  Speaker 5: about what you know. I think that would have been
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  Speaker 5: really powerful, and I think that would have grown them
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  Speaker 5: both up a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So you never shot any confrontation scenes with Rory, and
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  Speaker 1: it just didn't end up in the final cut, not.
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  Speaker 2: That I can remember. There was right, there's nothing with Rory.
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  Speaker 5: And if anything today, I would probably go to her.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, mixing worlds now, bringing a little
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  Speaker 5: John Tucker into here. I think because I do have
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  Speaker 5: a situation like this in real life where there is
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  Speaker 5: someone out there that I'm like, girl, when the time
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  Speaker 5: is right, if you want to, I'll tell you everything
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's really powerful.
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  Speaker 5: So I think having a sit down, eye to I,
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  Speaker 5: face to face with Dean like no bullshit. I think
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  Speaker 5: that would have been so powerful. And given Lindsay her
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  Speaker 5: real moment, you know, throwing the clothes out is really fun,
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  Speaker 5: but then to get like in there, yeah, okay, it
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  Speaker 5: would have been It would have been nice. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know that Linday and Rory would ever be friends, but
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  Speaker 5: to have that thing of like, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: turn against you because you're the woman in this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to to hold her ground, but to find a way
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  Speaker 5: where I mean, who knows, like if Rory had even
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  Speaker 5: said she was sorry, or this was where she was
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  Speaker 5: coming from, or to just have I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: so often there's a lot of power that the man
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  Speaker 5: keeps by the women not talking, even if they're not
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  Speaker 5: going to be friends, even if they're never going to
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  Speaker 5: see each other again, there's still power in keeping the
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  Speaker 5: women separate and keeping the women away. I think that
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  Speaker 5: if Rory and lindsay, maybe it wouldn't have even been
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  Speaker 5: a schedule thing. Maybe if they just run into each
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  Speaker 5: other and had an opportunity to kind of clear the air.
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  Speaker 5: That's really powerful too, you know, for both sides. For
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  Speaker 5: someone who maybe did something wrong and lives with regret
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  Speaker 5: to clear that space, and then for someone who was
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  Speaker 5: wronged and to share where she was coming from and.
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  Speaker 2: Her perspective, and maybe to even say like I always
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  Speaker 2: knew it was you or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's clearing the air on both spaces, which
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  Speaker 5: again I actually did with someone, and it was so
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  Speaker 5: powerful and it was heartbreaking, but it actually freed both
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  Speaker 5: of us.
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  Speaker 2: And I would have never in a million years thought
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  Speaker 2: that that conversation.
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  Speaker 5: That I needed it or that they needed it, But
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  Speaker 5: when it happened, I felt so free after.
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  Speaker 1: All. Right, let me let me ask you that, So,
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  Speaker 1: what point in that relationship do you think Lindsey should
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  Speaker 1: have left Dean when oh, Wolf, well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know if the fans may not like me for
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  Speaker 2: this one. I don't know that she should have left.
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  Speaker 6: I think that I don't think they should have gotten
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  Speaker 6: married so soon.
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  Speaker 5: I think that that that trajectory was like too much,
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  Speaker 5: too fast, and so it all can crumbling down.
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  Speaker 1: Good. I love that. Where do you think Lindsay is? Now?
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  Speaker 2: You know I've thought about this, you have, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because I've had so many people say justice for Lindsay
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  Speaker 5: and so like I had to lean into that, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: where do I want Lindsay to be?
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  Speaker 2: How do I want her to be happy? What would
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  Speaker 2: she be doing now? I thought it would be so
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  Speaker 2: genius if she.
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  Speaker 5: Was a like badass lawyer and that it's specifically known
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  Speaker 5: for like defending women.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I think be just like fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Right, here's some fan questions. More more fan questions.
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  Speaker 2: I hope they don't hate me after this interview.
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  Speaker 1: They do not. They love you, They love you more.
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  Speaker 1: It's a deeper love. Favorite on set memory during Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 1: These are quick answers.
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  Speaker 5: Oh okay, well I told this story. I'll tell the
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  Speaker 5: quick version. Speaking of the wedding when Jared and I
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  Speaker 5: shot that scene. There was these huge champagne bottles magnums,
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  Speaker 5: and we thought there was champagne in them, and so
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  Speaker 5: we thought we'd be really smart and sassy.
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  Speaker 2: And go steal them at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 5: We did, but we didn't realize there was nothing in them.
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  Speaker 1: Were you close with Jared? Who were your favorite castmates
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  Speaker 1: to work with?
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  Speaker 5: And why Darren I were buds because you know, most
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  Speaker 5: of my scenes were with him, and he knew I
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  Speaker 5: had just moved to Florida, he had moved from Texas,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and so we had a lot in common
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  Speaker 5: in terms of feeling like fish out of water, new
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  Speaker 5: to this industry, a fresh out the gate. And so
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  Speaker 5: I just remember a lot of times I would go
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  Speaker 5: and play the games with his vibes and like order pizza,
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  Speaker 5: and we were total vibes.
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  Speaker 2: And I really appreciated that.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I'd hung out more with Alexis because I
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  Speaker 5: just feel like I could have learned so much from her,
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  Speaker 5: and she was just so smart and beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: But I was pretty intimidated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she she was busy. She she you know, her down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much downtime she ever had to
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  Speaker 1: really hang out with anyone. I mean, she was just
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  Speaker 1: at the studio all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she really was.
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  Speaker 1: And you know how that is because you know, now
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  Speaker 1: you're on a show and you're the lead of a show,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a big show and it's a big responsibility,
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  Speaker 1: big time commitment too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big responsibility. It's a lot of pressure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what character in this show can you relate
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  Speaker 1: to the most other than Lindsey.
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  Speaker 2: Probably Laura Lai m hm.
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  Speaker 5: Why Because I feel like in so many areas in
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  Speaker 5: my life, I'm why is and you know, can give
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  Speaker 5: good advice everything been in my own life.
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  Speaker 2: There's parts where I'm just like, really, is that me.
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  Speaker 1: Any one day? And they also want to know. They
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  Speaker 1: also want to know what's been your favorite role so
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  Speaker 1: far in your career?
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I know as you. I mean, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you get this too.
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  Speaker 5: That's such a that's really hard for me to answer
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  Speaker 5: because they're so different.
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  Speaker 2: I love all my characters, I really do. I feel
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  Speaker 2: lucky to be able to say that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but that's not the question. I know. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: come on, cough up one, let's go okay.
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  Speaker 5: I would say one of the characters that have that
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  Speaker 5: has impacted me the most is Lexi from Vamprdre's and
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  Speaker 5: I would say the one that has pushed me to
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  Speaker 5: my limits where there was days where I was really
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  Speaker 5: questioning I could do.
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  Speaker 2: It would be Rescue High Surf M that we just finished.
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  Speaker 1: Okay and you shoot that and why we're shoot.
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  Speaker 2: In Hawaii for eight months nineteen episodes. Yeah, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know there is no CGI in the show, so
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  Speaker 5: like foot wave behind me, it's really a twenty foot wave.
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  Speaker 1: Are you are you at YMEA? Are you where are you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, We're all up and down the north shore, so.
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  Speaker 1: We have so you're actually shooting at the north shore.
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  Speaker 5: I mean in the opening episode, the opening sequence when
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  Speaker 5: I'm on the rescue slide coming in the waves behind me,
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  Speaker 5: that's actually at pipeline. It's like on that was like
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  Speaker 5: a dangerous days at pipeline.
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  Speaker 2: That was my first week of filming. I told her
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  Speaker 2: when I was like, that was my initiation.
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  Speaker 1: And that was it. That was during the wintertime when
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  Speaker 1: the waves are really great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That was a big part of the show is that
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  Speaker 5: we had to film during winter so that we were
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  Speaker 5: getting huge swells.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I used to be a surfer and I
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  Speaker 1: did go to Maya and I did not go out
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  Speaker 1: and the surf it was too big. Sorry, But I
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  Speaker 1: did climb on the top of that rock and jump
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  Speaker 1: off it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, in the spot. I love that, you
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  Speaker 2: know that spot?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that spot. Yeah. Yeah, I do that
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  Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the twenty foot waves are like, nah, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going out and that I don't want to die today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the thing is, it's not just the way
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  Speaker 5: when you get in that washing machine and you are
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  Speaker 5: throng and tumble. I mean you really don't know what's
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  Speaker 5: up and what's down, and there's and there's current and
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  Speaker 5: it's it is an experience like no other.
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  Speaker 1: And it's shallow, yes, and it's coral and it will
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  Speaker 1: rip you up. I mean, it's just the guys that
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  Speaker 1: go out there and do that or they're so talented
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  Speaker 1: and so brave. I just like you know, I had,
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  Speaker 1: I had experienced surfing, you know, Sunset Beach in Malibu,
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  Speaker 1: but it's nothing like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And a lot of it is because of the coral
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  Speaker 5: and the reef break and everything.
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  Speaker 2: That's what made did one of the most dangerous stretches
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  Speaker 2: in the world.
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  Speaker 5: Because you know, you're not twenty foot wave, but you
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  Speaker 5: only got this much between you and the coral.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's it's really I thought I knew.
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  Speaker 5: I have a new appreciation and new respect ending for
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  Speaker 5: these surfers from mother Nature, for the power of the
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  Speaker 5: ocean over there, I meanlievable, and the life.
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  Speaker 2: So much respect for the real lifeguards that are okay.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So who do you get recognized the most for
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  Speaker 1: what character?
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  Speaker 5: It's it's definitely a tie between Lindsay from Gilmore Girls
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  Speaker 5: Carriers from John Charger Must Die, Cecilia from Aquamarine and
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  Speaker 5: Lexi Vampire Diaries, and then and then currently people will
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  Speaker 5: stop me for Rescue High Surf because it's currently airing.
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  Speaker 2: But if in the past that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're a superstar. It's unbelievable. You're just such a star. Ariel,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you for your.
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  Speaker 2: Time, and thank you to the fans for all the
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  Speaker 2: great questions. That was really fun for me. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay Q.
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  Speaker 1: And A yeah, I take great, I take great anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ariel, one of our favorites over here and
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  Speaker 1: the best fans on the planet. You asked the questions,
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  Speaker 1: you got the answers right from the horse's mouth. Thanks again,
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  Speaker 1: Ariel for showing up and being you. Just thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being you, and remember best fans on the planet. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for downloads and where you lead, we will follow.
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  Speaker 3: Stay sife.
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