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Dodgers Sign Snell · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. To the three O take.
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  Where we talk all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle, Corwin and Nate. Reyes, it all starts.
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  Right now. Welcome back to the Three O take
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  presented by Sea Kick. This is episode 492.
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  I'll be your host Kyle Corn. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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  Reyes. Nate.
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  We lied to you, said this was this was a one for a week.
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  Look at us. We were always, we were always
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  going to have two episodes this week that it was inevitable.
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  That was always. There was always going to be a
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  signing right after our recording too, and a big.
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  One, we're not talking like. No.
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  We're not talking about like, I mean, no, no offense to Cody
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  Bellinger, we're not talking about like a Cody Bellinger
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  trade or something. But like it was going to be one
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  of the big dominoes to fall. That was always the plan that
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  was always going to happen. So we in classic fashion got to
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  got to hop on here and and talk about it.
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  I think we have gotten a little bit better with these like
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  breaking pot of these. I won't call it a bonus episode,
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  but like emergency pods, I guess.
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  I mean, they're not. Commitment is what it is, just a
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  pure commitment. They haven't been like
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  immediately following necessarily, but we're doing
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  what we can given the circumstances.
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  Nate's currently in his. Car parks outside of work.
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  This. Forewarning, I don't know how I
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  sound. I think I sound good to you.
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  I'm on an air pod and I know we have like, oddly enough, there's
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  a little airport next to my house.
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  Sure enough, there's an airport right next to work as well.
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  So if you hear a jet flying over it and into the Scottsdale
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  airport, don't blame me. This is commitment.
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  I told you we're here. This is commitment.
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  We're. Showing up.
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  Honestly, just getting the pod in is more important to me than
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  audio quality at this point. So let's just let's just jump
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  right into it. Blake Snell, he told Scott.
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  Boris, he said get it done, Get it done, Scott.
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  There is no waiting around this this offseason.
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  They got right into it. He said, go get me a deal,
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  Scott. And here we are.
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  Los Angeles Dodgers have signed Blake Snell to a five year, $182
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  million contract. The amount of people weeping,
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  weeping over the fact that the Dodgers got yet another premier
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  free agent, it's unbelievable. I never thought I'd see this
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  many tears over a team that people had pegged as a Mickey
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  Mouse team no more than a month ago, two months ago.
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  I mean, look, everybody's got a fair shot and I texted you last
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  night, I'll be I'll be hand up. I'll be accountable right here.
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  I said I'm sick of the Dodgers. I'm allowed to say that.
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  I just got my heart broken from them.
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  And then my follow up text was that's my jealousy talking,
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  right? Because again, every team's got
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  a chance to do this. Every team, they're all
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  billionaires. They all have plenty of money.
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  And with the balance of power, with revenue sharing, these
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  teams that are that are low level small market teams that
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  they could they cry poor, they're not poor.
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  Any teams have the capability of doing this.
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  So I'm upset because I'm jealous.
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  I'm not upset that they did it yet again because everybody's
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  got a chance to do this. It's it's worth repeating.
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  If you've listened to this podcast, you'd probably have a
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  feeling as to what I'm about to say, but it's worth repeating.
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  Stop being upset with the Los Angeles Dodgers for doing what
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  you wish your team was doing. Don't be upset with the Dodgers
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  because they find a, a, a premier talent.
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  They go out and get them. They go out and trade for them.
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  They go out and sign them. Whatever it is, whatever,
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  whatever means they acquire said player, they just go out and do
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  it. They utilize their resources to
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  do that. Don't be upset with the Dodgers.
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  Be upset with your team for not doing that.
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  It's as simple as that. It really is.
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  It really is that simple. It sucks that it's that simple,
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  but it is. And all these people on here
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  just talking about their This is why we need a salary cap.
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  No, This is why we need a salary floor.
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  Yeah. And if you can't understand why
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  that is, you are probably a fan of a team that's just unwilling
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  to spend said money that they have.
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  But they're not going to. They're not going to let you
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  know that they have. Yeah, that's so true.
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  How do we feel? I mean, just getting into what
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  their structure looks like roster wise with Shohei coming
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  back on the bump. You're talking Glass now as your
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  4. So at as of right now, rotation
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  options include Blake Snell, the newest addition to the Los
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  Angeles Dodgers, Shohei Otani, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Tyler Glass,
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  now Dustin May, Tony Gonsalin, Bobby Miller and Clayton Kershaw
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  should he come back. And then you got the guys that
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  like have kind of cracked into the scene a little bit, you
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  know, like you're you're you're Gavin Stones, your Emma
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  Sheehan's, like you've got guys that are like kind of knocking
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  on the door a little bit. It is insane, man.
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  It really is. It's.
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  It's gross. It's gross.
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  But honestly, I'm at a point I had this thought today.
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  I I'm like, you know what? I hope the Dodgers go out and
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  sign a couple more premier free agents just to just to rub it in
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  to the rest of baseball fans. And I'm not a Dodgers fan, but I
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  at this rate, at this rate, I just want them to go do it so
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  people can finally understand that like, oh, you mean all we
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  have to do to acquire these players is, is spend money.
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  Yeah, that's all we have to do. Then maybe we should, maybe our
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  maybe our front office should or our ownership should should
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  entertain that as an option because it looks like that's
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  what the Dodgers are doing. So let's, let's give that a try,
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  see if it works. Yeah, I mean, the tears.
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  I I, I can't handle the tears. It's.
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  This is, I mean look like they're chasing dynasty and I
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  can appreciate it like it you're not.
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  You have so many teams that when they win a World Series and you
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  can go across sports, when they win a championship, they kind of
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  just, I won't say punt, but it it's like releasing the the the
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  air pressure a little bit. You know what I mean?
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  It's letting some pressure out off the top and saying we just
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  bought ourselves 5710 years before the conversation starts
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  to build up the pressure again, right.
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  And I I can appreciate a team in an organization doubling down
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  and saying, let's just go make this a dynasty.
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  Let's let's go get it another one.
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  Let's let's get for this decade, you know, like and if that's
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  what they're chasing, power to them props.
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  And it looks like they will because when you talk about the
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  core, not only are all these guys sitting smack dab in the
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  middle of their prime, they're sitting smack dab in the middle
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  or the beginning of their contracts.
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  I don't think they're having to worry about anyone leaving
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  anytime soon. And then it allows you to to to
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  kind of play around with your talent in in the farm, right?
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  Play around with, OK, you know, do we give some guys a chance at
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  certain positions? Second base is one of those
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  spots. Left field is one of those spots
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  for them. You know, like what can we do?
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  Can can we go make a a mid market move at the debt?
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  Like it buys you a lot of flexibility of of what you can
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  do when all of these other positions, all of these other
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  spots on the roster are just nailed down and solidified.
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  It makes the deadline very easy. It makes your first half of
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  baseball very carefree of the season, right?
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  Like if you did want to try with a couple names in your
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  organization, just say, hey, let's see what you got.
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  And if it doesn't work, whatever.
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  We only have these spots to fill.
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  If it's again, it's if you hate it, you're just jealous.
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  And I, I'm jealous as a Yankees fan.
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  I'm jealous because this was like the narrative of what the
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  Yankees did my whole life, when in reality, they've never done
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  it to this extent. And they're not done.
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  It's not even December yet. We haven't even hit winter
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  meetings. I'm hearing reports that they
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  they want to still keep going on starting pitching.
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  They're more than likely going to end up with Rokie Sasaki.
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  So go ahead and just chalk that into the list of names that I I
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  mentioned earlier in terms of starting pitching options.
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  But to your point earlier, they're they're chasing the
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  dynasty the the Los Angeles Dodgers are chasing the dynasty
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  the Los Angeles Dodgers are chasing, are trying to replicate
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  what the Yankees did in the 1990s and early 2000s.
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  We haven't seen that since then. And that's what they're trying
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  to replicate here. They're not trying.
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  They're, they're not just OK, you know, shaking the monkey off
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  the back of of the, the, the Mickey Mouse World Series of
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  2020 with this World Series that they just won.
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  They're, they're not stopping there.
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  They're looking at that World Series going great.
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  We were, we'd, we felt validated with our 2020 World Series.
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  But this is just for the people outside of outside of our
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  clubhouse who maybe still were on the fence about that World
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  Series. We went out this year, did what
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  we had to do. So now we can lay that to rest.
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  But like you said, they're not done.
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  They're going to continue to add and and if you think that the
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  somehow the Dodgers are done just because they went out and
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  got snow, you're out of your mind.
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  They they're probably, like I said, they're probably going to
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  add Sasaki come January. I think it's like January 15th
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  or or whenever that that deadline opens up and then
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  they're probably going to go, you know, they're probably going
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  to go out and sign another power bat it whether or not they
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  retain the Oscar, who knows, But they're going to they're going
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  to go out and and and add to the lineup because they're pitching
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  already is disgusting. So it's like, OK, well, where
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  elsewhere can we short things up?
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  They're going to go add to the add to the lineup.
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  Probably probably find another MVP out there somewhere that we
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  don't even know about right now. That is going to hit us with
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  breaking news at some point this offseason.
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  But if you think the Dodgers are done, you've lost your mind.
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  The Dodgers, I would argue, are probably just getting started
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  because again, they're going to go get Sasaki and then they're
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  going to continue to add weather before or after that.
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  And it's we're going to get to the end of the offseason and
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  there's more than likely going to be a laundry list of of moves
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  of acquisitions that the Dodgers made.
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  And we're going to be scratching our heads going, how is this
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  possible? The answer is clear.
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  They're willing to spend money. They're willing to spend money.
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  And the, my, my question to people who, who are wondering
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  like, why, how do they keep getting away with this?
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  Did, did we really think that they were just going to spend?
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  I tweeted this out last night. I was like, do we, did we think
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  that the Dodgers were going to spend $0.00 this offseason?
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  Like why does this come as a surprise?
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  Right, because. In, in, in a, in that scenario
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  that we talked about last episode where the report came
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  out said that, you know, the Red Sox are interested in acquiring
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  2 of the the three headline arms between Freed Burns and Snell.
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  It said there the report said that Red Sox wanted at least two
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  of those guys. It was probably a safe
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  assumption that the Dodgers were if if that is if that was the
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  case, that they were going to get the third guy of that mix.
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  But the Dodgers went went ahead and made the first move.
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  They went out and snagged one of those 3, so like it.
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  It shouldn't come as a surprise that they went out and got one
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  of the one of the arms that were available.
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  Well, it's also a flex that they're like, they're not.
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  It's, it's a flex that they didn't need to wait for the Soto
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  ball to drop. They didn't have to wait for
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  that domino to fall because of how all of these contracts are
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  structured. And that's something I want to
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  get into too. What's keeping these teams from
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  these deferred contracts or bonuses?
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  Like what's keeping these teams to be able to space this out
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  like you, this contract checked every box.
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  If you're in the Snell camp, you got the longevity 'cause last
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  year I think he was, I mean, there were reports of him
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  wanting 456 years on a contract and the highest any of these
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  offers were getting were three years.
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  So number one, we can go down this path to #1 we can go ahead
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  despite the rough first half. We can call the settling on a
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  one year plus deal with the Giants as a success.
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  We can call this somewhat bot job out of Scott Boris.
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  And I think this lessens the blow a little bit.
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  It's saying, you know what, like it?
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  It paid off. Look at what we got now.
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  So they got the five years, they got the 152.
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  What is that AAV wise? Well, it's 182 five 182 / 5,
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  yeah. The I was thinking, so 5052 is
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  the is the bonus. That's what it was.
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  Oh, right, right, yeah, the signing bonus 182 / 5 comes out
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  to 36.4. Yeah.
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  And then toss in the 52 and the 52 are going to be, it's going
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  to be deferred. Do we have the details on the
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  deferred yet? 62 mil is going to be deferred.
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  62. So 1/3 of that, give or take, is
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  going to be deferred. So it's is it, is it just being
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  categorized as a signing bonus? When it's.
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  Deferred. The deal itself, looking at sort
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  of what we know, or at least the last I've seen, includes no opt
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  outs, 62 mil of deferred money and a $52 million signing bonus.
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  So it's all of it and the signing bonus is do not count
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  towards salary. That would be my understanding.
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  See, like, I feel like other teams are capable of doing this
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  and they're not doing it, and it just makes you wonder why.
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  It's just it's, it's yet another style of of handling contracts.
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  It's creative. Yeah, another creative angle at
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  handling contracts that we're seeing in Major League Baseball.
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  You look back to what the, what the Braves were doing a handful
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  of years ago where they, they're signing these guys when they're
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  like nine years old. They're saying, Hey, we're going
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  to give you life changing money. You haven't even hit puberty
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  yet, but we're going to give you life changing money.
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  We're going to lock you into our franchise for the next dozen
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  years. And you're going to, you're
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  going to make a, a, a, a healthy donation to the Braves
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  foundation. That's that's their system.
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  They fed they and we talked about it.
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  That, that what the Braves did then and what I'm sure they're
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  still trying to do now. That was the first taste of
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  like, how do they keep getting away with this?
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  Because if you remember those contracts at the time, well, I
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  mean, looking back, they still are, but they're, they're
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  criminal given, given the talent, given the, the amount of
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  money that you're signing to said talent.
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  But now this seems to be the new wave of like deferrals and, and,
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  and signing bonuses and, and just creative ways of locking
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  guys and locking in premier talent, but also keeping
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  yourself away from the tippy top of of the payroll across the
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  league. Because if you look back at at
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  2024, people can sit there and say, you know, Yamamoto Otani,
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  Bets, Freeman, all all that they I think they were 5th or 6th in
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  all of baseball in payroll. So it's like they're you're
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  you're staying away from the tippy top.
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  So if you want to complain about payroll, maybe look to some
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  other teams around the league who, who are actually abusing
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  said payroll. I don't know.
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  Well, my. Advice to other teams, because
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  obviously they listen to me and, and reach out for my advice all
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  the time naturally is to get this deferred money stuff in
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  while you can get it in while you can.
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  I think it's, I think this is going to be addressed in the
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  next CBA, whether it's some type of limitation on the number of
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  guys you can do this with on, on each team, something like that.
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  I could see there's some type of, because this right now is
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  very much a loophole. I can get you your money, I can
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  get you your money, but we're going to space it out and, and
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  you're going to retire handsomely.
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  So it's, I, I think then not to mention what it does, you know,
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  flexibility wise for your current team, it gives them a
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  lot of wiggle room to go make other moves and, and to secure
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  that and look like that's a part of the, that's a part of the
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  conversation now. And I'm just curious to see how
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  many other teams do it. And there's certain names that
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  I, you know, like, I don't think, I don't see Soto doing
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  this. I don't see him.
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  I think he wants it now. I think he wants it upfront.
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  I think Boris wants it upfront. But Soto might be the last of
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  the 500 + 1,000,000. He's gonna go north of 6, I
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  think, but it's probably the last of those of that breed
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  because I think this is the way contracts are going to start to
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  be structured if there isn't some type of limitation.
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  I think you and I have both maintained that Soto is not
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  going to entertain the, the slightest hint of deferred
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  money. The only situation or scenario
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  in which I could see Juan Soto doing that would be is if you
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  just Steve Cohen situation. If this bidding war heats up
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  even more so than it already is. Because we, we, as of right now,
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  we know that there's, I think 5 offers on the table and there's
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  already been reports that bids have been already been increased
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  by, by those five teams. The only, the only scenario, as
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  I was saying, that I see Soto even entertaining the concept of
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  deferred money, is if this bidding war just gets out of
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  hand and then a guy like Steve Cohen comes in and says, I'm
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  going to offer you the most asinine contracts that anybody
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  could possibly expect this offseason.
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  Plus. The deferred plus deferred money
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  and I would, I wouldn't put it past somebody like that.
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  I, I really wouldn't. But I, I, I think I would
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  venture to say that Soto's going to want that upfront.
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  And so if that's what's, if that's what's being discussed
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  from his camp in these, in these negotiations, you're probably
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  going to be closer to like the six 600 million number and then
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  yeah, total and then have it predominantly upfront.
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  That's the only way I see that playing out.
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  Yeah, yeah. Contract wise, I mean, how do
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  you think this? What does this do for Burns and
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  Freed? I mean, what was we?
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  I feel like we just, we just talked about this last episode
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  or, or touched on it, but what, what was Snell projected to get?
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  Burns is projected 7 years 200. Snell was projected 5/1/60 so.
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  Right on the money. Well, 182 remember, not 52682.
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  Yeah, I mean within, within a couple million each year.
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  I think that's pretty right on the money.
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  Wow, man, that's what, 20? Yeah, 22 million, but I mean, I
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  don't know, I, I feel like this is a, the hefty deal for Snell.
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  I feel like this is going to, I don't know.
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  I, I think the fact that he came, he came off the board this
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  early and we talked about this like you and I had had
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  speculated that or we, we had anticipated that there was going
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  to be a deal going down like or maybe multiple before.
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  Yeah. Before Christmas and this
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  happened, this goes down a day or two before Thanksgiving.
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  So I, I wonder because of the the, the swift nature of of this
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  transaction with Boris, I wonder if that expedites the process
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  for some of these other guys. We talked about some of these
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  teams having a pivot if you're, if you're in on a guy like
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  Blake's. Now we, we know that the
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  Orioles, the Red Sox, and I want to say the Giants were also in
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  reportedly. So you just wonder like where,
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  how quickly those teams are pivoting because you, you would
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  venture to say that the teams that are in on a guy like Snell
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  are, are also in. And we've, we've heard reports
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  of, of teams like the Red Sox in on the in on Snell also in on
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  these other guys. So it's going to, it's going to
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  quickly determine, I would imagine, or it's going to, it's
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  going to influence, I should say, where these guys end up and
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  how quickly because I don't think a lot of people are
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  anticipating this going down this quickly.
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  Yeah, I mean it, it also does make you think that a lot of
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  those like mid, mid level guys, you know, like like a Jack
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  Flaherty that are probably going to have their their trigger
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  pulled a little bit quicker. You know, if if burns, if burns,
• 24:41
  if freed want to play that waiting game, just kind of let
• 24:44
  everything come in. I think there's teams that like
• 24:49
  are are really needing to go get their guys.
• 24:52
  I think there's some glaring holes in a lot of rotations and
• 24:55
  they need to go get their guys. And so this just makes you
• 24:59
  wonder, like, how much leverage do they have as those teams
• 25:04
  start to fill up their spots with more affordable guys at a
• 25:08
  lower rate? You know?
• 25:12
  But this makes me think that Burns is definitely getting over
• 25:16
  2. I think there's no doubt about
• 25:19
  it that he's getting over 200. Now I would agree.
• 25:24
  Been freed. I mean I've always, I like
• 25:26
  freed, but I've always kind of been on the fence just injury
• 25:29
  wise. Would you say that projection
• 25:31
  was? For freed.
• 25:34
  Yeah. They have him pegged at six
• 25:36
  years, 156 mil. Yeah, see, I feel like that's a
• 25:39
  little high. I'm just.
• 25:42
  Over 6 though. Yeah, 6, I mean, helps.
• 25:45
  I'm just, I'm worried about the injuries, but yeah, I mean,
• 25:50
  look, this is this is excellent. This is excellent.
• 25:54
  This is good for baseball. These types of steps and moves,
• 25:57
  these types of contracts. I know if you're not a Dodgers
• 26:00
  fan, it seems like it's the worst thing ever.
• 26:02
  But truth is, I mean, superstars need to get paid and it needs to
• 26:11
  happen this time of year. It needs to happen this early.
• 26:13
  Last year was a weird anomaly that I hope doesn't get
• 26:16
  repeated. It needs to happen this early.
• 26:20
  And you know, I think they can learn from how bad it was last
• 26:26
  year and how quickly the guy that experienced it wanted to
• 26:29
  get something done this year. So also, I don't know why we
• 26:34
  were so surprised he was staying in California.
• 26:37
  I mean this, it's, that's his, you know, he's home.
• 26:43
  Well, no, he's stay there. He's a Washington guy.
• 26:47
  Well, he's a West Coast guy. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:50
  And. Then I think he's, he's getting
• 26:52
  to stay on the West Coast. I mean, I, I think that's what
• 26:54
  the, the Giants contract was. You know, we, we saw him spend
• 26:59
  time in San Diego. It's it's he's just making his
• 27:01
  rounds, staying put. Yeah, I mean, you, you look at
• 27:10
  you look at how all this went down, you look at what he got
• 27:13
  and you have no choice but to say, you know, at least for
• 27:17
  Blake Snell, mission accomplished.
• 27:18
  Like he this is what he's been trying to get for the last, call
• 27:22
  it, 3, three years, 3 plus years.
• 27:27
  And he's been tinkering around. Didn't pan out exactly the way
• 27:31
  he he thought it would prior to signing with the Giants.
• 27:35
  You know, he gets that, he gets that Cy Young in in San Diego
• 27:38
  and you're thinking, all right, I'm in the driver's seat.
• 27:40
  I'm going to be able to command finally what I think I'm worth
• 27:44
  now. Didn't pan out that way.
• 27:46
  And then he he sort of bets on himself.
• 27:49
  You could call it with the Giants with the multiple opt
• 27:51
  outs. And then he ends up with this
• 27:53
  deal. And I think now finally he can,
• 27:56
  he can say I finally got the payday that I was after and now
• 28:00
  I can just go out there and pitch and he's going to do it
• 28:02
  like we talked about, he's going to do it for a team that's just
• 28:05
  disgustingly stacked right now. Yeah, it's crazy to think about,
• 28:13
  it really is. It's awesome.
• 28:17
  Sucks all in the same, the same way is what it is.
• 28:22
  I mean, the Dodgers, you look at you look at the narratives that
• 28:26
  they came up when when they're starting pitchers were going
• 28:29
  down with with various injuries. And then that was the whole
• 28:32
  thing we talked about going into the World Series or really the
• 28:34
  postseason. It's like this, this Dodgers
• 28:36
  team is not going to be able to hang because they just don't
• 28:39
  they're not healthy right now. And it's almost as if they took
• 28:42
  that personally and they're like, OK, we're going to get
• 28:45
  through this off there. We're going to get through this
• 28:46
  postseason. We're going to win a World
• 28:48
  Series in the process and then we're going to go out and add a
• 28:52
  two time Cy Young winner. Oh yeah.
• 28:54
  And by the way, those guys that were down, they're coming back
• 28:57
  healthy next year. Oh yeah.
• 28:58
  And by the way, we're slated to have Otani back on the pump.
• 29:01
  It's like even if things were to repeat in terms of health for
• 29:07
  the rotation in, in LA, you just got more reinforcements and more
• 29:13
  as we talked about with Sasaki are likely coming.
• 29:17
  More, more reinforcements are, are likely coming.
• 29:19
  And it's just, it's, it's just, it's an impressive display.
• 29:24
  Call it what you want. It's an impressive display of
• 29:27
  roster construction of again, a willingness to spend money and a
• 29:33
  willingness to just put all your cards on the table and say, this
• 29:39
  is what we're trying to set out to do and this is what we're
• 29:42
  willing to do to make that happen.
• 29:47
  And like I said, I don't think they're done.
• 29:49
  And if you, if you do think you're done, you're out of your
• 29:52
  mind because they, as we said, are chasing a dynasty at this
• 29:56
  point. They're not, they're not
• 29:57
  satisfied with just one or I should say, you know,
• 30:02
  legitimate, call it what you want.
• 30:03
  I'm not, I'm just saying what people say.
• 30:05
  I'm not, I'm not calling 2020 illegitimate, but they're,
• 30:09
  they're basically saying from this point forward, we're not
• 30:12
  happy with just 2024. We want to turn that we want to
• 30:15
  be the first repeat champion since the Yankees back at the
• 30:18
  the turn of the century. And then we want to, we want to
• 30:22
  go beyond that. We want to win 3-4 in a row and.
• 30:25
  This is exactly like, props to the Dodgers and props to Otani,
• 30:30
  because this is exactly what they, I'm assuming, told Otani.
• 30:35
  And that's, and this is exactly why Otani said, I'll do the
• 30:38
  deferred stuff. Let's save the money and go do
• 30:44
  this and go do this and go do this.
• 30:47
  So this is it. Like you're, you're you made a
• 30:49
  promise to your, I don't, I can't even say superstar.
• 30:53
  I feel like superstar is such an understatement.
• 30:55
  But you made a promise to your legend and Shohei Otani and
• 31:00
  they're and they're living up to it.
• 31:02
  And there's no way they're going to stop now.
• 31:04
  So 4 legitimate Cy Young contenders in that rotation.
• 31:12
  That's not a stretch. That's not an outrageous
• 31:16
  statement. 4 legitimate contenders.
• 31:20
  I mean, multiple winners, but in terms of like perennial threats
• 31:26
  moving forward, like, yeah, it's, it's yeah.
• 31:31
  Oh my goodness. I don't, I don't even know
• 31:33
  really what to say anymore about this team.
• 31:35
  They, it's like in a weird way, they continue to surprise, but
• 31:39
  it in a weird way, it's not a surprise.
• 31:42
  It's like, did they really just do that?
• 31:45
  Like you and I were tweeting back and forth like, wow, like
• 31:47
  sending back the shocked face emoji.
• 31:49
  But then it's like, you do you step back and you go, should we
• 31:53
  have even been surprised? Like this?
• 31:55
  This I I feel like was going to happen all along.
• 31:59
  Yep, Yep, Yep. Unreal, unreal.
• 32:05
  Last thing here before we hop off this emergency pod here we
• 32:09
  we sort of touched on it already but as we alluded to I think at
• 32:13
  the end of last episode, this is Juan Soto offer week and as I as
• 32:19
  I mentioned earlier I think. I'm reading week one.
• 32:22
  Have you been reading that? I'm reading that.
• 32:24
  This is like there's multiple layers.
• 32:27
  Oh yeah, oh, yeah, this is. This is.
• 32:30
  Let's weed out the pretenders this week and then next week is
• 32:33
  like the legit guys. Yeah, we are.
• 32:36
  We are just getting started, I would imagine, because you have
• 32:40
  to, you have to keep in mind the winter medians are what I think
• 32:45
  like the second week in December, like the 9th or 9th to
• 32:48
  the 12th, I think. So you have to imagine that.
• 32:53
  And I saw I saw people talking about how, you know, Boris is
• 32:56
  going to want to get down there and just put his, his Golden Boy
• 33:01
  up. I mean, not not that he isn't
• 33:03
  already center stage right now in the baseball world, but he
• 33:05
  he's going to want to make that the absolute main attraction and
• 33:10
  he's going to want to ramp these, these this bidding war up
• 33:14
  even more so than it already is. But like I said, currently has
• 33:17
  reportedly 5 offers from from teams including the Red Sox,
• 33:22
  Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and Blue Jays.
• 33:26
  You mentioned pretenders. I think we can think we can rule
• 33:30
  out the Blue Jays. We may have already.
• 33:32
  We may have already talked about this, but I think we can rule
• 33:36
  out the Blue Jays. I don't know though.
• 33:38
  You, you just never know. You never know.
• 33:41
  You never know how desperate A-Team like that is going to
• 33:43
  get, similar to the Giants where you just continue to miss out
• 33:46
  and miss out. And it's like, OK, you know
• 33:49
  what? We heard that Steve Cohen is
• 33:50
  willing to go 50 million over the top bid.
• 33:54
  Let's just, let's blow the lid off this thing and we'll offer
• 33:58
  65. Like I, I, I don't know.
• 34:01
  I, I don't, I just don't know what the Blue Jays are, are, how
• 34:05
  far they're willing to go. But in terms of track records, I
• 34:11
  would like to, I would like to just go ahead and rule out the
• 34:15
  Blue Jays. And it sounds like the Red Sox
• 34:18
  are a little bit more legitimate than maybe we might think.
• 34:22
  I can't buy into it. I think that's, I think that's
• 34:26
  eye wash. I think that.
• 34:28
  But The thing is though, I is, I don't think this, I don't think
• 34:31
  this is John Heyman BS that we've seen in the in the past,
• 34:35
  like we're seeing it from different sources.
• 34:38
  No, I think this is I think this is Soto and Boris BS.
• 34:44
  I think this is so. Let's let's squeeze every dollar
• 34:46
  we can out of out of the Yankees because like, it's one thing to
• 34:50
  lose him to the Mets. It's a whole nother thing to
• 34:58
  lose him to the Red Sox. And I think that there's a
• 35:02
  reason why we're not hearing anything about other teams.
• 35:06
  And this is the only thing we're hearing.
• 35:08
  I think it's I think it's a little eye wash.
• 35:10
  I think it's to squeeze the Yankees a little bit more and
• 35:15
  and to really kind of scare them a little bit.
• 35:18
  That's that's my that's my two cents.
• 35:22
  Not saying that the Red Sox couldn't sign them, but I do
• 35:28
  think it is more of that than anything else.
• 35:31
  Well, tell me, give me, give me your list then of the five teams
• 35:34
  that have offers on the table right now for Juan Soto, rank
• 35:38
  the likeliness in terms of where you think he lands.
• 35:48
  I'd say Mets #1, Yankees #2 I'd say there's a little bit of a
• 36:00
  gap between the two spot and the three and the rest, you know, I
• 36:08
  still probably put the Dodgers ahead of the ahead.
• 36:11
  Of the man, yeah, I was, I was, I was curious which, where you
• 36:15
  going to slot, who you're going to slot at 3:00?
• 36:17
  Because that that to me says a lot.
• 36:19
  And if other people feel the same way, that says a lot about
• 36:22
  the how they view the legitimacy of these Red Sox rumors.
• 36:26
  Well, the one thing is, is that like you got to consider, we
• 36:30
  don't have to spend a ton of time in this.
• 36:31
  But like, I think he's smart enough to understand in Boston,
• 36:41
  you're going to have to split those two lefties up.
• 36:43
  You're going to have to have Soto Endeavour split up.
• 36:46
  So is there a righty bat that's willing, you know, a big enough
• 36:50
  bat to still provide that protection?
• 36:57
  And he you saw what he was able to do when when judge is in the
• 37:01
  conversation, I think he pairs really well with another righty.
• 37:06
  So, you know, when you look at the Mets and and talk about
• 37:08
  potentially bringing back Alonso, like that'll work, you
• 37:14
  know, So I don't know. That's part of the equation for
• 37:18
  me in. Fact the whole lefty righty
• 37:22
  thing is. It's definitely overblown.
• 37:25
  Grossly overblown, but that's just me.
• 37:28
  But it is a thing, and it's more so a thing with with lefties
• 37:32
  than it is for righties. I think back-to-back righties is
• 37:35
  what it is, but back-to-back lefties is too crazy.
• 37:43
  You got any? I mean, it's purely a guess.
• 37:46
  Like we have nothing to really go off of, but like, what is
• 37:48
  your gut saying in terms of announcement from Soto?
• 37:54
  Timing wise. You think we see before
• 37:56
  Christmas? Yeah, I think, I think the, I
• 38:01
  think you're right. I think it's the the winter
• 38:04
  meetings week I think 2 weeks from now.
• 38:09
  You think we cap off the winter medians with a with a Soto
• 38:12
  destination announcement? Potentially or or right before
• 38:19
  like at the beginning of the meetings and he gets showcased
• 38:22
  around and I don't know man. I'm ready for it to drop though.
• 38:32
  I got nervous last night. We were at small group Bible
• 38:36
  study and and I was like my phone was blown up in my pocket
• 38:40
  and I was getting it was ended up being like a bunch of work
• 38:42
  emails and a couple texts and like a group chat.
• 38:46
  But I was like the amount of times where I felt like the
• 38:48
  notification vibration and then a text and it was just boom boom
• 38:52
  boom for like 5 minutes. And I was like, if Soto signed
• 38:55
  somewhere and I'm in this freaking Bible study having to
• 39:00
  hold it together, dude, like. I was in the middle of a three
• 39:03
  hour movie and and we had texted I or I was telling you the other
• 39:09
  day, I was like, it's wicked. It's a musical.
• 39:13
  I'm going to go just to, to hang out with, with Meredith and her
• 39:16
  sister, just kind of, you know, be a team player.
• 39:20
  But I told you I was like, there's a, there's a good
• 39:22
  likelihood that I'm going to have to happen to be getting
• 39:27
  free agency updates. And sure enough, I, I flipped my
• 39:30
  phone over and you, you know, something goes down when you see
• 39:33
  those red siren emojis. I'm like, oh boy, who just
• 39:36
  signed and it was Blake's now. And I had to wait like another
• 39:40
  two hours before I can even like, you know, look into
• 39:44
  reports and all that. But that's sort of where we're
• 39:47
  at with things. And we're probably going to have
• 39:50
  to do an emergency pod if, if Soto drops anytime soon.
• 39:55
  I mean, whenever it happens, I'm sure we will.
• 39:56
  But if it happens soon, we'll we'll be doing what we're doing
• 40:03
  right now. So that about covers.
• 40:06
  It went pretty in depth on the snow thing.
• 40:09
  And just a little bit of an update on the Soto news, but I
• 40:13
  guess now we go. This, like you said, this was
• 40:16
  the domino. I think that we're we're waiting
• 40:19
  or or one of the dominoes that we needed to we needed to fall
• 40:22
  for things to really get going. So, you know, I'm really looking
• 40:26
  forward to the free to the Red Sox announcement coming soon.
• 40:31
  I would imagine it's. Not a crazy.
• 40:34
  Take, you know, maybe, maybe throw to Oscar in there, maybe
• 40:37
  do a joint press conference. We'll see.
• 40:40
  But more, more moves are coming, I would imagine, in the very,
• 40:45
  very near future and I'm looking forward to it.
• 40:48
  I agree. Happy Turkey Day folks.
• 40:51
  Thankful for all of you and thankful for you guy.
• 40:56
  Thankful for you as well. Thankful for you.
• 41:00
  Have a great Thanksgiving, folks.
• 41:03
  Gogo chasing curveballs. Love you and as always, looking
• 41:05
  forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
• 41:07
  Until next time, stay filthy.