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55KRC Friday Show - Smitherman, Tech Friday, Todd Zinser, Kolping, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five the fifty five KRC the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, June teenth.
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  Speaker 2: Some say, will.
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  Speaker 3: A vacation.
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  Speaker 4: There? It is?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's Friday because Joe Streckers I could do
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  Speaker 1: so the fifty five KRC morning show hits the woo
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  Speaker 1: hoo button, and uh, I'm glad about that. I hope
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  Speaker 1: you got some great plans going on this weekend. It
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  Speaker 1: is Juneteenth, and in honor of Juneteenth, I know Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Smitheman his family has been celebrating Juneteenth. It was like
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  Speaker 1: kind of like the Smithment Fourth of July, as he's
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  Speaker 1: explained in prior discussions with me and here on the air,
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  Speaker 1: for his basically his whole life. So it's a real
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  Speaker 1: important day for the Smithman family, and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a really important day for everybody considering you know, isn't
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  Speaker 1: it a day of unity? If you think about Juneteenth,
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  Speaker 1: when the Emancipation Proclamation goes in, the slaves have been freed?
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  Speaker 1: How did that happen? What was required to bring that about? Right?
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  Speaker 1: The efforts of a whole lot of people of different
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  Speaker 1: colors fighting to keep the union together as well as
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  Speaker 1: end slavery. So it is that I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: very important moment in history. So people complaining that the
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  Speaker 1: United States is this inherently irredeemable, awful place because it
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  Speaker 1: allowed slavery when it was being colonized. Of course, many
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  Speaker 1: people lost their lives in an effort to stop the
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  Speaker 1: practice and keep the Union together. I know its historic
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  Speaker 1: reality is about the Civil War. But therein lies the
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  Speaker 1: thing that I think is important about the day. And
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  Speaker 1: Christopher's going to join the program coming up at six
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  Speaker 1: o five, one hour from now, to talk about Juneteenth
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  Speaker 1: and the importance of that. So think about it very positively,
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  Speaker 1: and I do so tech Friday with Dave Hatter. It
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  Speaker 1: is Friday. We always do tech Friday with Dave Hadder
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  Speaker 1: from Interest. I t today with Day we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Better Business Bureau studies showing that online employment scams
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  Speaker 1: are rising sharply. Topic number two, don't troll the scam text.
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  Speaker 1: I know you may be attempted to do that. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: if if you try to string them along, you may
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  Speaker 1: be helping them. I love Dave on the program. He'll
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  Speaker 1: explain the details on that one. Plus deflock maps hidden
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  Speaker 1: surveillance cameras so you can drive around them. M sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a way to avoid the technology. That's why we
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  Speaker 1: have Dave and I love when Todd Zenzer joins a
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  Speaker 1: program Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer. He might want to follow
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  Speaker 1: his podcast. He's always revealing, you know, the shenanigans, the
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  Speaker 1: shady realities of the numbers and who's getting money and
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  Speaker 1: who's not getting money. Of course, with the new budget
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  Speaker 1: coming out in the City of Cincinnati, former Inspector General
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  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer has taken upon himself in his retirement to
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  Speaker 1: use his spare time to go through the records, bring
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  Speaker 1: the receipts. So I have a feeling he may have
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  Speaker 1: a comment or two about the budget which just rolled
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  Speaker 1: out the other day. Of course, Farmer Music Center answered
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  Speaker 1: the question, yeah, yesterday was lamenting the fact that Farmer
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  Speaker 1: Music Center was still getting two million dollars in the
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  Speaker 1: spot of the fact they didn't need the money and
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  Speaker 1: that there wasn't going to be a fire class. It
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  Speaker 1: was reported. I see if I can find give credit
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  Speaker 1: where credit is due in cert in terms of the breakdown,
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  Speaker 1: But the fire recruiting class, if it had gone forward,
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  Speaker 1: apparently that comes at a cost of three point sumidd
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  Speaker 1: million dollars and I asked out loud yesterday because I
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  Speaker 1: certainly don't know what it costs to do a fire class. Gee,
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  Speaker 1: could the Farmer Music money have gone to that? Well? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and covered the vast majority of the cost of the class,
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  Speaker 1: So kicking the can down the road on a new
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  Speaker 1: recruit class for the fire department and of course giving
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  Speaker 1: money to the Farmer Music Center when it didn't need it. See,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Todd'll have something to say about that. Anyway, toddleby
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  Speaker 1: in studio for a full hour, which is great, followed
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  Speaker 1: by I am so happy eight oh five shoots in
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  Speaker 1: Fest weekend, oldest German festival out there. Shoots in Fest.
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  Speaker 1: Folks of being studio would which means there will be
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  Speaker 1: great celebrations going on here in the fifty five kr'sy
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  Speaker 1: Morning Shows Studios shoots Infest at eight oh five, and
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  Speaker 1: then Jack wins Are from the Hot Press Network. We'll
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  Speaker 1: ask him the question I've been asking a lot of folks,
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  Speaker 1: why in the hell are some conservatives hating Viva Ramaswani
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  Speaker 1: FBI and Ohio voting fraud. Yeah, subpoenas have been issued
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  Speaker 1: and finally make speaking at the America two fifty event
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus. We heard from that Dono O'Neil about that
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  Speaker 1: it's Monday, it's in Columbus, and I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: too late for you. Get a bus ride. Restore Liberty
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  Speaker 1: dot Us. George Brenneman's operation has a bus well. I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there any seats left on it,
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  Speaker 1: but they'll take you to Columbus if you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to drive yourself on Monday for that event, which I
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  Speaker 1: hope is just filled with patriotism and positivity. Yeah, FBI
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  Speaker 1: is probing this Ohio rights group. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: with Jack, the Ohio Organizing Collaborative. That's the subject matter.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently federal officials served us appear at one of the
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  Speaker 1: nation's leading nonprofit voting outreach groups, which supported this Ohio group,
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  Speaker 1: which seems to be the target of the FBI investigation. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI served a subpoena on American Votes, which is
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  Speaker 1: a Washington organization. But that Washington organization has funded outside
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  Speaker 1: voter registration efforts, one of which was launched by and
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  Speaker 1: run by Ohio Organized and Collaborative. Apparently they receive five
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from America Votes and America Votes issued
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  Speaker 1: a statement saying, Hey, the FBI is not looking at us.
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  Speaker 1: They asked for basic records relating to the our funding
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  Speaker 1: of the Ohio Organizing Collaborative, So the subpoena is apparently
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  Speaker 1: signaling a broader FBI investigation into Ohio's organizing Collaborative found
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  Speaker 1: that in two thousand and seven, they claim they've you know,
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  Speaker 1: registered almost two hundred thousand individuals here in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio to vote Shenanigans. I guess are suggested by this,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the FBI does not comment on an
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  Speaker 1: ongoing investigation. They were, but of course didn't respond to
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  Speaker 1: ask to request for comment. But last week the FBI
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  Speaker 1: agents did search the Ohio Organized and Collaboratives office and
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  Speaker 1: questioned staff members and volunteers about potential voter registration fraud,
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  Speaker 1: So keep your popcorn out on that one. It was
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  Speaker 1: also pointed out in the reporting on this that I
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  Speaker 1: guess it was Franklerose. Of course, Ohio Secretary of State's
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  Speaker 1: responsible for doing things like this. Last year referred more
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  Speaker 1: than twelve hundred cases to the Justice Department for criminal
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  Speaker 1: investigation relating to alleged unlawful voter registration activity. So you
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  Speaker 1: may very well have to give or give Franklerode not
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  Speaker 1: have to, but give Frank Loro's credit for perhaps getting
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  Speaker 1: this FBI investigation launch. Because finding twelve hundred cases of
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  Speaker 1: alleged voter registration fraud, I think it's pretty significant. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way he went through every single record. He
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  Speaker 1: said he found more than one thousand citizens who had
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  Speaker 1: registered to vote. Now, it is a smaller percentage. One
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  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven non citizens appeared to have voted
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  Speaker 1: in federal elections between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, you can hear the cries of people, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, it's such an insignificant amount. Why are you
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  Speaker 1: even concerning yourself with this? Well, if two people can
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  Speaker 1: do it, if one hundred and sixty seven people can
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  Speaker 1: do it, then well a whole lot of people can
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  Speaker 1: do it. And it depends on which state you're in,
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  Speaker 1: on whether these would be prevented on a going forward
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  Speaker 1: basis or just allowed to percolate in the background, like
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  Speaker 1: California for example. Hmmm, which makes me want to mention
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  Speaker 1: outloud to save Act fighting an uphill challenge in the Senate,
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  Speaker 1: can't get the Save Act through because of four Republican senators,
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  Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell being one of them. Doesn't it make you
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  Speaker 1: want to scratch your head on that? What's wrong with
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  Speaker 1: proof of citizenship for federal elections? Federal elections require citizenship
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  Speaker 1: since you want to climb in if you well, if
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  Speaker 1: climbing to the head of Mitch mcconne might be a
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  Speaker 1: frightening place to be, but what do they have against it?
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  Speaker 4: All?
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  Speaker 1: We think the state should be responsible for governing their
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  Speaker 1: own election rules. Well, that is I understand that proposition wise,
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  Speaker 1: it is part of the state's function. But when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to federal laws and the enforcement of federal law,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is clearly within the billywick of the
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  Speaker 1: federal government to do if it chooses to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But of course it can't thanks to a handful of Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: And when I think about the pressure that is placed
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  Speaker 1: on people, and you really don't know in this day
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  Speaker 1: and age, in this modern world where all this information
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  Speaker 1: is so is known by so many all these organizations
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  Speaker 1: that capture data, the crunch numbers, that do investigative research
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  Speaker 1: into various candidates. You know, there's a whole lot of
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  Speaker 1: data and the data floating around the back of the background,
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  Speaker 1: of the background that we don't see, we don't know about,
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  Speaker 1: that can be used for all. Let me say it
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  Speaker 1: out loud, perhaps blackmail. And I'm not saying it's I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any definitive evidence. But when you really see
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  Speaker 1: a politician who's going completely polar opposite to what they
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  Speaker 1: perhaps said before they would do under any given circumstance,
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  Speaker 1: or something that is a solid eighty twenty issue like
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  Speaker 1: ensuring the integrity of vote, why would you be against it?
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  Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of controversies surrounding some
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  Speaker 1: of the senators who are not allowing to who refuse
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  Speaker 1: to vote for this or move it forward. Is there
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  Speaker 1: something that they have been threatened with, maybe something that
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  Speaker 1: might be revealed publicly that they're concerned about in this
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  Speaker 1: world in these days, It just I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think that threaten that concern looms large behind really every
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  Speaker 1: decision our lawmakers make. It looms large behind the judicial
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  Speaker 1: decisions that we get. Because you know, if you've got
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  Speaker 1: an Internet connection and you have an ability to just
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  Speaker 1: do some really rudimentary searches, you can find out where
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  Speaker 1: any given individual lives and find out their phone numbers
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  Speaker 1: and their contact information and send them threatening emails or
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  Speaker 1: phone calls or however it works, from this most local
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  Speaker 1: issue to the most national issue. It's something that I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a legitimate concern, and it pops up in
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  Speaker 1: my head anytime someone does something so odd, strange, or
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  Speaker 1: inconsistent with their normal path in terms of what you
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  Speaker 1: would expect from them on any given issue. Just we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about most notably since we're dealing with the tech Friday. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's an anti deep fake build that's advanced in the
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  Speaker 1: Senate floor. That's a good thing, right, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Coons and Marsha Blackburn said this is going to
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  Speaker 1: provide new protections against AI enabled replicas and deep fakes,
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  Speaker 1: allow people to sue if their likeness is used in
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  Speaker 1: an unauthorized way. I love the sound of it. Some
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  Speaker 1: people are concerned that it's going to have First Amendment implications,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with those as well. So we're in strange,
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  Speaker 1: uncharted time, strange and uncharted times, and it's very difficult
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  Speaker 1: as slowly as lawmakers react to these things, as little
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  Speaker 1: as they know about what they are reacting to, Like
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  Speaker 1: how many lawmakers on Capitol. He'll really get artificial intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: what it's capable of, or how to control it in
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  Speaker 1: a reasonable manner that might protect us but also allow
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  Speaker 1: it to still serve our best interests, since there are
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  Speaker 1: some good things about it. That's a slow process, especially
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  Speaker 1: with the Congress, for example, that can't seem to agree
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  Speaker 1: on anything at all. Meanwhile, this technology just goes forward
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  Speaker 1: like a freight train and creates massive problems while it does.
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  Speaker 1: We got to do something about it. Five seventeen fifty
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  Speaker 1: It is fort twenty one on Friday. Oh this a
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  Speaker 8: Maybe like to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, As I mentioned in earlier, the shoots and
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  Speaker 1: fest folks will be in studio. My German friends probably
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  Speaker 1: bringing lovely food items and at least talking about food.
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  Speaker 1: Great opportunity to enjoy some fun time some food, drink
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  Speaker 1: some beer, get some schnops, shoot some snaps. Huge fan
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  Speaker 1: ed will the beauty craft beer? I said, coming in
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  Speaker 1: the break, we're number four. Check it out. We got
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  Speaker 1: a little while to go to make it to the
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  Speaker 1: number one spot. American craft brewers apparently produced twenty two
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  Speaker 1: million barrels of beer last year, the equivalent of more
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  Speaker 1: than seven billion twelve ounce cans, according to the data
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  Speaker 1: from Drewer's Association, which shows the number of barrels from
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  Speaker 1: craft brew from every single state in the Union. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: of course, since I said number four, Ohio coming in
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  Speaker 1: at number four, h Kentucky, Indiana, you got a while
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  Speaker 1: to go, my friends in the Tri state area, and
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  Speaker 1: we got a long way to go if we're going
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  Speaker 1: to catch up with California. Now, to be a craft brewer,
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  Speaker 1: this is something new for me, But I guess there
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  Speaker 1: are people who have rules on this. A brewery must
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  Speaker 1: produce no more than six million barrels per year and
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  Speaker 1: the less than twenty five percent owned by a large
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  Speaker 1: alcohol company. For those people keeping track at home, one
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  Speaker 1: barrel is the equivalent of three hundred and thirty twelve
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  Speaker 1: ounce cans. Okay, so coming into number one, California with
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  Speaker 1: three point four to five million barrels, Pennsylvania at number two.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was two million barrels for Pennsylvania. Just
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  Speaker 1: rounding the figures slightly, Texas just less than one point
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  Speaker 1: five million. And there we are Ohio one point almost
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  Speaker 1: three million barrels of beer. So congratulations to Ohio and
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  Speaker 1: all the craft breweries out there. I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: really neat thing. Excuse me, because I'm old enough to
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  Speaker 1: remember when Cincinnati, of course known of its German heritage
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  Speaker 1: and numerous breweries over the Predepression arey. You could find
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  Speaker 1: one almost on every corner and over the Rhine. And
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  Speaker 1: then you know, fast forward to the nineteen seventies, what
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  Speaker 1: did you have? Burger and Heutepol little Kings Janeling. He
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  Speaker 1: was like about it, ce Heuta bowl anyhow, So it's
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful thing to have so many different options keeping
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  Speaker 1: up with them, that's a different thing. And speaking of
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  Speaker 1: drug related issues springing from historic law relating to habitual drunkenness,
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court actually agreed in a nine zero decision
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  Speaker 1: Congress can't automatically bar all users of illegal drugs from
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  Speaker 1: having guns. This is a Bruin decision. What applied when
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  Speaker 1: the founding fathers and past these sect are acknowledged. I
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  Speaker 1: should more properly state in the Bill of Rights are
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  Speaker 1: inalienable rights which include the right to keep him bare arms. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Court didn't fully strike down the law. It rejected
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution of a Texas guy who used marijuana and
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  Speaker 1: got convicted of violating federal law prohibiting drug users from
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  Speaker 1: carrying guns. It did leave up in the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: could be used to convict people who are addicted to
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  Speaker 1: drugs who carry a gun while intoxicated. Different story than
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  Speaker 1: the guy who was being prosecuted, And it also might
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  Speaker 1: still apply to drugs that pose a special risk of
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  Speaker 1: misusing firearms, like the only occasional use of I'm throwing
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  Speaker 1: something like PCP. I don't think anybody can control anything
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  Speaker 1: about their actions if they're on that drug from everything
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  Speaker 1: I've read, so maybe that one would be one down
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  Speaker 1: the road if they decide to change the law or
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  Speaker 1: enact a law attempting to deal with this now open question.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Justice Neil Gorstch wrote for the court without question,
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  Speaker 1: some unlawful uses of controlled substances can pose a risk
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  Speaker 1: of violence, but said the current statute on the books
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  Speaker 1: isn't written narrowly enough to cover only categorically and unusually
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  Speaker 1: dangerous people. Laws affecting your constitutional rights must be narrowly
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  Speaker 1: tailored to achieve a compelling government interest, is the point
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  Speaker 1: on all this. And this is way too broad, and
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  Speaker 1: that's how it caught this guy up. Just because he
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  Speaker 1: had some weed doesn't mean he was, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: habitual user or like a habitual drunkard, which could be
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  Speaker 1: barred from running firearms. Back when the Second Amendment was enacted,
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  Speaker 1: habitual drunkeness was way, way, way more than just basically
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  Speaker 1: the alcoholic classification you've got today. Federal government argued that
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  Speaker 1: modern gunban for drug users was analogous to this eighteenth
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  Speaker 1: century law that restricted the rights of people deemed quote,
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  Speaker 1: habitual drunkards. Gors. It's when writing the opinion, so pointed
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  Speaker 1: out that many of the founding fathers were heavy users
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  Speaker 1: of alcohol, and indeed they were based upon some of
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  Speaker 1: the fun facts that came out during oral arguments and
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  Speaker 1: then the briefing, Yeah, they liked to drink back then.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, they didn't view it as an
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  Speaker 1: impediment to owning a firearm. Ergo under the Brewing decision
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  Speaker 1: this law, well, they determined this man could not be prosecuted.
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  Speaker 1: So more to follow on that one. I assure you
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  Speaker 1: that are elected officials are not just going to let
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  Speaker 1: that one sit five twenty six Right now, local stories
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  Speaker 1: are eligible to vote in the city of Cincinnati, what
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful development that would might be, and it might
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: save you some taxpayer dollars having to write checks for
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: wrongful termination. Without further ado, let's jump over to the phones. Tom,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning and happy Friday to you, sir.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good morning. I was just kind of surfing
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: through the radio stations here earlier and I caught your show,
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: and then I heard your keys there at the right
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: before your first break about word number four just kept
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: me hooked and I had to just stay there, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I'm glad I did well. You guys sound like you're
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: doing a great Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Heck yeah, we know how to brew beer in a while.
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  Speaker 5: We're number four. I know a few people. I know
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  Speaker 5: a few people personally who contribute to that ranking.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you know. I just I mean, if you look
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  Speaker 1: at how many have popped up over the past ten years,
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  Speaker 1: you start with maybe twenty or twenty five and now
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: we get like seventy five close to the two seventy
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  Speaker 1: five belt Way. It's just hilarious. The eighth, I guess
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  Speaker 1: the demand contributors. Good guys say the demand must be there, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: they keep popping up.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, yep. Yeah. Well that's that's a business you can
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: get into and and do pretty well. Because there's some
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: heavy drinkers out there. So the contributors I'm speaking of
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: are the guys actually consuming the beer. So in the
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: construction industry, there's a there's quite a few of those people.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Really, I never would have imagined that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: No, No, I know, shock shocking news. I'm here with well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I'm here with breaking news.
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The main reason I called is I'm hearing these uh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: these socialist mayors, uh, these people running from mayor and
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: and and they're socialists and they're winning these primaries and
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: all that and and the one that the part that
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: really troubles me is they're they're in favor of eliminating
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: private property. Yes, are you really in favor of eliminating
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: private property? That means that go for you too or
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: just your constituents?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And is that does that?
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: How much sense does that make Brian Thomas, to have
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: no private property. You can't own your own house, you
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: can't own your own car. You know what, you can't
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: nothing is yours. It's all provided by the.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: State exactly, which means like the Chinese Communist Party, like
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the former Soviet Union, if you are not a proud
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: member of and a loyal member of the Chinese Communist
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Party or the Soviet Union Communist Party like they had,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: then you aren't going to get anything. That's the I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: at the state.
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  Speaker 5: See, that's that's where you're going too far, Brian. They
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: would never do that. No, Yeah, come on, see you're
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: you're taking it too far. Yeah, that's exactly. That is
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: exactly where they're going with this and the the I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna control myself. The stupid idiots who vote
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: for these people I do. You can't be serious, you
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: actually are going to go along with this. I mean
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: they're saying it right out loud. We don't want you
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: to own private property. We want every single person that
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: as soon as you cross the border, you can stay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: You're not allowed to be deported you. I can't believe
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: that people actually go along with this stuff. That's just stupidity.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I don't get it. I don't get it. So we
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: got we got to kind of add a new one.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: So don't vote socialists, don't vote Democrats. Socialists and don't
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: vote Democrat have a great weekend.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Do the same time. I always thought that don't vote socialists,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: vote don't vote communists. That kind of thing was already
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: built into the don't vote Democrat because you know, if
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you're if you, if you people not to vote Democrat,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: they're too far left. So that suggests I think obviously
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that everybody further left than your typical, regular run of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the mill Democrat, and I know there are fewer and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: few of those out there would already be in the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: don't vote for a category. But I don't mind the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: exclamation point put on it anyhow. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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  Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight to two three
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  Speaker 1: talk pound five to fifty on AT and T phones.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: It's a nice Friday stack, is stupid lined up? Thank
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  Speaker 1: you Joe Trekker for that one. We'll dive on into
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  Speaker 1: that or get more phone calls coming up. I hope
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you stick around. Fifty five KRC the talk station. You've
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: got to try the new ticket the talk station.
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  Speaker 8: Can you plate John the Fisherman.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It must be well five thirty nine today on a Friday,
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  Speaker 1: close enough, So yeah, we'll do that five on three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: two to three talk pound five fifty on eighteen and
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  Speaker 1: t phones happy to take calls. Sounds like we have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: an award to give out right out of the gate
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: after all, right, beaythriff is done and in this time
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to give out an award. We didn't give these awards out,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: most notably to people who are pervert mollusters of children
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in many cases. And look we got a local one
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: right here alleged I guess Blue ash Man facing what
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they are calling disturbing allegations including child sex charges. Man
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: at issue here Malcolm Williams. He's forty three and apparently
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in jail on charges of unlawful sexual conduct with a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: minor and voyeurism. They say he sexually abused a team
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for a period of four years, starting in twenty fifteen,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: when the victim was only thirteen years old and he
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was in his thirties at the time. The separate case,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: he's accused of hiding cameras in an apartment on Hunt
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Road that period between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty five.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: The cameras, they say, were in the victim's bedroom, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: at least one was hidden in a smoke detector which
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: he allegedly controlled within app the cameras. According to the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: court documents, he recorded nearly two hundred conversations three thousand,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: three hundred videos of the victim, some of which, of course,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: were when the person was undressed. That would be a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: court on Saturday morning for a raiment if you don't
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: have anything to do. Perio is the biggest douche of
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the universe, in all the galaxies. There's no bigger douche
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: than you. You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douche them.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Good going due, your dreams have come true. Yeah yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Now look we'll continue down a similar path. We've got
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a Green County, Georgia. We're a former teacher there since
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the forty years in prison. Obviously not in front of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Judge Silberstein and Hamlin County. This after she was being
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: she was convicted of sexually assaulting a male student at
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a private Christian school Green County. Jury found Bonnie Brown,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, guilty of improper sexual contact by
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: an educator involving a student at the Nathaniel Greene Academy.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Judge Stephen Bradley sentence for forty years, with the first
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen to be served in prison. She must also register
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: as a sex offender upon release. Victim, now nineteen years old,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: before sentencing, address Brown in court and described the lasting
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: emotional impact of the abuse. All you had to do
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was admit it, he told his former language arts teacher
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in vest Gator says she developed a relationship with the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: student through Snapchat in twenty twenty three while she was
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: teaching at that school. Student testified that Brown's messages became
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: sexual and that she assaulted him on two occasions during
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: his freshman year. Brown arrested by the Georgia Bureau of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Investigation following an investigation requested by the local sheriff's office.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: There's one okay, let's try another one. Douglas County, Georgia.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: What's with Georgia. We have a teacher. They're accused of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: having sex with students plural, in a classroom, in a closet,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: as well as in one student's truck while parked at
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a local golf course. Maris Nichols arrested in May for
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: allegedly having these sexual relations with the six students. According
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to newly filed warrants, they revealed she was allegedly being
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: black miled blackmailed by some of these students over a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: growing or owning and operating an only fans account, so
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the students that she molested did a turn about on her.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Okay anyway, Douglas County Sheriff's Office serve warrants on OnlyFans, napchat,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: at and T, and multiple students and their families as
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: well as Nichols. While they searched for evidence. Warren also
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: served to collect evidence against and fingerprints from two teenagers,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: as well as surveillance footage from Saint Andrews golf course
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: related to rendezvous between her and one of these students.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: In a video showing or having sex with a student,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a Jesus Love You sweater was being warned by the teacher,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I guess in addition to Jesus. One of more than
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a dozen new warrans. Deputies working to get everything from
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: text messages, photos and videos on multiple students' phones during
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the investigation. Deputy's photograph collected evidence from a fingerprints from
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a classroom, Nichols Carr the closet inside her classroom where
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: some of the inappropriate activities are alleged to have occurred. Unbelievable,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: all this evidence, all of it, it's everywhere.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: This is an adult. You would think somewhere in this
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: whole time seat like, well, I'm gonna get caught. I'm paying,
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: I'm having sex with six students. I got an only
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: fans page. Wow, Wow, Wow, who's teaching your children.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots. Unbelievable. It just
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: gets worse and worse. Well, we're out of time in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: this segment. Anyway, he got more, including oh wait, maybe
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a naked person or two in the Friday stack is too,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but of course we do. Don't go away. It's five
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  Speaker 9: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Steve's called one second thieve. Here's one
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  Speaker 1: of the shorter h stack of stupid Friday stories I've seen.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And we're in Florida, of course, and we got a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: naked guy, of course, so it has to be Florida
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: gay man. Brother drivers are uh drivers reported a forty
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: nine year old shirtless man with his pants down standing
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: over the Overseas Highway at mile marker one oh six.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Ain't Armsley is the guy that got arrested. We're
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: standing there naked with his pants around his ankles. He
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: faces two misdemeanor charges, giving a false name or identification
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to law enforcement officers and disturbing the peace. I guess
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it's okay to be naked in Florida, must be perceived
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: as be disturbing the peace anyway. Yeah, two more on that,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: but let's see what Steve's got this morning. Steve, Happy
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  Speaker 1: Friday to you, thanks for calling the show.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Joe didn't press the button for phrasing when you said
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you had one of the shorter ones there and you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: had a naked guy.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: But whatever he slipped, he's slipping.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was maybe it's like a hanging curve ball.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It was too easy to hit.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Out of the That may have been the case. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: think some of them just just just exist on their
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: own without any exclamation point.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: It is always fun to hear it though, even when
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you know it should be there and it's not. It's
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: just you can say it in your head. So I said,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I said it in my head there. Okay, we're going
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to attack the left and the right very quickly. Here
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: attacking the left, and I'm not attacking Barack Obama. I'm
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a hacking the media reports because yesterday I'm listening to
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the radio in every half hour, the iHeartMedia News Update
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: talked about the Obama Presidential Library opening and they, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: they didn't mention what it costs to get in. They
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: said it's now open. And I just told my lovely wife,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I said, if this was the Trump Library or the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: George W. Bush or whatever, they would indicate how much
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: it costs to get in. And that's quite a burden
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: on society.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And Steve let me also point that the lead in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the story would not be that it opened, would be
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that the outstanding contractors who have not been paid, all
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the minority contractors who've been left holding the bag because
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the cost overruns, they're standing around waiting to get paid,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and some of them the businesses that they own. They
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: go out of business because they're owed so much money.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So that's been an ongoing problem.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But when you hire the minority contractors, it only matters
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that you hired them. They don't follow up to see
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: if you pay them.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Again, you get the accolades when you hire the minority,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: but you don't you know, paying them out. That's a detail.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: We don't need to worry about that. But so I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: looked up the cost. It's thirty dollars to get in
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the library. That's a lot of money. But there's a break.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: If you've got a kid, they get in free. Oh no, no,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: for a kid, it's twenty three dollars. So you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you could really you could drop one hundred bucks taking
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: your family there. And then of course you want to
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: buy all sorts of stuff. So my shot is not
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: at them, it's at the media for not indicating it costs.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it took a second to find out what
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it costs. I don't know why they don't say it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: My shot at the right is and I like Trump,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: but it's it's you know, unconditional surrender. Is Japan signing
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the treaty to end World War Two or Nazi Germany
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: signing the treaty. Whatever you put on that paper, you've
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: got to sign it unconditional surrender. And you know, I'm
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: glad hopefully this is over, you know, but I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: he stepped in at big time about three four months ago.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a repeat of venezuel And. Well, but we'll
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: see how it works.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Out, but we will have lots to hammer out between
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: now and when we can either capitulate and say we
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: got something or I didn't get anything. But you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you've got the economic realities that he seemed to admit
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: were the driver behind this, you know. And also he'd
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: invoked the Defense Production Act the other day because of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: our well dwindling supplies of munition stockpiles, and that's a
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: big red flag too, So maybe there was something.
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The deal was perhaps a giving up a little bit
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: more than we otherwise would have, but we maybe we
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: couldn't afford the munition's loss that would be required to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: continue a bombing campaign. That's frightening anyway. I get back
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to the status too, but I'd get one more in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: here naked of course, thirty six year old, and we're
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in LA for this time, Los Angeles, man who was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: described as wearing only one sock or said Thursday after
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a violent domestic stabbing obviously shut us with. June eleven,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: showed up at of mobile station after receiving ports of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a man attempting to force a woman into a vehicle.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: When officers got there, they found forty four year old
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: mister Compton of the man that, of course that was arrested. Sorry,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: forty four year old Compton woman. I'll get to the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: guy's name here in a second. Pologies appeared physically fearful
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: male suspects standing nearby who appeared to be under the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: influence of a controlled substance. As this tradition too, officers
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: used what they described as de escalation techniques took him
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: into custody. There was a period in time when if
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it was de escalation technique, that would have involved a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: PR twenty four and were not those days anymore. Victim
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: taught officers that she and her boyfriend had been sleeping
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: in their van in an unknown city, maybe within Los Angeles,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: not of detail, I guess it was important when he
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: suddenly attacked her. She reported that he uses crystal methand
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: fetamine on a daily basis and been inter racted irrationally,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: says she woke up to him stabbing her in the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: chest with a folding knife, yelling that he was going
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to kill her. Told police that she managed to break
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: away and began driving in search of a well lit,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: populated area. Whilst she drove, this guy continued to strike
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: her with his fist. So he's still inside the car.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: She's driving away, and continued to threaten to kill her
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and at one point attempted to strangle her with a sheet.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: She then said she was forced to stop on the
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: freeway during the assault. Eventually exit of the freeway, pulled
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: into a mobile station. Doors were locked there. She yelled
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: at the attendant to call police. Suspect, of course, then
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: got out of the van demanded she returned to the vehicle,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and when she refused, that's when he took his clothes off. Okay.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Paramedics treated of the vehicle, victim of the scene released her.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: A suspect booked in the Pasadena jail. Here's his name
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: has not been released. He's a facing homicide charges. So
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: there you go, just walk away. Methamphetamy, What makes you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: take your clothes off? I guess whatever are bad? Indeed,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: five fifty six. Coming up, we're going to talk about Juneteenth.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: The former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithaman.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Plus Tech Friday with Dave had are coming up at
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: six thirty. I sure hope you can stick around Americain
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Ages and Gentlemen Station six or six. You're a fifty
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: five kar CD talk station. Very happy Friday, Very happy
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: June teenth to my listening audience. And I invited Christopher
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Smithaman to join the program yesterday because June teenth a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: very important holiday to his family and has been for
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: such a long time. Welcome back form a vice mayor
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati. Normally here on a Monday
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: at seven twenty to vent your spleen. It's good to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: have you on to talk about this important holiday and
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: also give you an opportunity to remind people about the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: petition that you're circulating. But let's start with the importance
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: of this now federal holiday since Joe Biden signed into
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: laws of federal holiday back in twenty twenty one. Christopher,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: great to have you on.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, Brian, thanks for having me on. In June nineteenth,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: eighteen sixty five, that's the date, and what makes this
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: date so important is that in Galvanston, Texas, a general
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: went into that area and told the slaves there that
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: they were still slaves there, that they were free. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: why this is important is that Lincoln had signed the
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Emancipation Proclamation January of eighteen sixty three.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two years early, yeah, yeah earlier.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Right, and so, and the reason I want to say
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: this executive order, you know, the Emancipation Proclamation, is that
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: President Lincoln was a Republican and so we talk about
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: executive orders that you're here President Obama has signed, President Bush,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Clinton and Trump. This was an executive order from a
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Republican president that said black Americans are free in our country.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: But we didn't have the internet, we didn't have cell phones. Right,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be facetious. How do you tell
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: the rest of the country that you're free? And in
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: that two year period of time, there were two hundred
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: and fifty thousand or so enslaves people still in Texas
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: who didn't know that slavery had ended, it was abolished,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: and so the general went there proclaimed that shared it
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: with them that they were free, and that was then
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the birth of juneteenth. June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, where
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: the last enslaved people in this country found out that
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: they were free, and then this holiday berthed around it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: In Texas. It's a very very big deal in Texas,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: always has been, but it's a big deal in the South,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and it's been moving across the country and I like it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Make sure that I share with you, Brian, it's not
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: in conflict at all with July four. You and I
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and I don't know why Juneteenth wasn't celebrated, wasn't taught
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: in our history books, and you know, I don't know
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: the answers to that, but I can just share with
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: you that this is a wonderful holiday that as Americans,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: we should all celebrate, and we should celebrate the truth
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: of it, yes, because there are so many different moving
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: parts of it, and so many Black Americans do not
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: know the truth are the facts behind Juneteenth. A lot
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: of Republicans don't know the facts and the truth behind Juneteenth,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: And why so many Republicans across this country should be
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: standing and hollering from their rooftops about their role in
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: the important of freedom, real freedom for Black Americans in
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the United States of America.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it stands in testament to a major accomplishment that
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: was brought about by disparate people. You know, a lot
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of white people died, say to save the Union and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to free slaves. You know, this is a moment we
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: should all embrace. It is a stepping stone of accomplishment,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: one more milestone as we move toward, you know, the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: equality among races of people in this country. I mean,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that's why I think it's such an important thing. Go ahead,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: can we stick to that?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Brian, you talked about the Civil War. If I'm right
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: about my history here, over six hundred thousand people lost
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: their life. It was it's still one of the It's
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: not the most loss of life for an American war
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: that we've had, but based on population at the time,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: right compared to now, that would be I believe over
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: six million and people would have to lose their life.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: This was significant loss of life of families who fought
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: this war, where a lot of white Americans who fought
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: for the North and fought for the freedom of enslaved
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: people in the United States of America. So I really
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: appreciate you highlighting that because this notion, that's what makes
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: it such a powerful and important holiday for all of
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: us to celebrate well.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And it's also one that your family, I understand, has
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: been celebrating. I got the impression for as you were
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: growing up as a child, Christopher.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Juneteenth has always been a part of our life.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: And my parents are from the South. My father grew
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: up in Birmingham, Alabama, my mother from Montgomery, Alabama. They
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: met at Tuskegee, which is a historically black college and
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: diversity there. And this is another great example. You know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I was watching something on TV and I believe the
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Vice President was on the view and Whoopy Goldberg was
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: talking to him and essentially saying to the Vice president,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: you know, President Trump hasn't really done anything for Black
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Americans as an example, right, that would have been a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: great opportunity for the Vice president to talk in detail
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: about June teams like this, opportunity for the Republican who's
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: sitting there on the view to educate Woopy Goldberg, who
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: probably does not understand the details and doesn't know the
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: history behind Juneteenth. The second thing he could have said
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: is that it was President Trump who made permanent funding
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: to historically black colleges and universities. Real reality, anybody listening
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: to this can google this Trump historically black colleges and universities,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: which is where my parents went. My mother at Tuskegee,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: my father then when he got his PhD at Howard
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: University in Washington, d C. But my point is that
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Republicans have to learn to do a better job either
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: knowing their history or feeling comfortable talking about these subject
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: matters when they're on these different shows. And Whoope Goldberg
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: is looking him in his faith and saying, in my mind,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Trump has done nothing for Black Americans. You have done
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: nothing for Black Americans, and Republicans have done nothing for
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Black Americans. And he could have looked her in the
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: eye and set accept made your entire community free. Wow,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: it was Lincoln who sed the Emancipation Proclamation, you know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: it was the fourteenth and thirteenth Amendment that was passed
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: by by Republicans who ultimately codified the freedom of Black
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Americans and their freedom in this country. I don't know
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: why this subject matter when I talk to Democrats in particular,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: makes them feel uncomfortable. But they are just simply facts.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: These are historical facts that anybody can google and look
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: up and it's right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: There for you to read.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And that is so true. And it wasn't until I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: supse a Johnson administration when he started changing the dynamic
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of the political structure in Southern politics and getting Democrats
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to jump on board the civil rights bandwagon, and then
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you know, reinvented history thereafter sort of ignoring all of
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the relationship between the Democrat Party and Jim Crow laws
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and abusing of black people and the ku klux Klant's
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: relationship in the Democrat Party. It's as if that chapter
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in history never existed and it became the purview of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party. Well, the Republicans are to blame and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: responsible for racism and slavery and all that. And it's like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: how in the hell do you get to that conclusion.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's just mind boggling, Christopher.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: And what's so frustrating is when you talk to Americans
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: no matter where we are, this subject matter makes them
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: feel uncomfortable because it doesn't fit the narrative right. So
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: when you just just you and I talking about it,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: there are people out there going, well, one, I didn't
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: know that it's great to learn these facts, but there's
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: some that are listening thinking you and I are making
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: it up right, and we're not. And this is why
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: when I saw Vice President J. D. Vance on the
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: View and Whoope Goldberg was going in hot around race,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: the Republican Party, the current president, I was wondering in
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: my mind, does JD. Vance himself know this history? Is
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: he as we go into Juneteenth? Was he ready to
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: discuss this on the View. It would have been powerful
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: for her for him to look to her and explain
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: junetee starting with Lincoln, President Lincoln, the emancipation, going all
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: the way to Texas two years later, and talking about
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: how Republicans played such a role in her ancestry, her freedom,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Black Americans freedom in this country. It would have been
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: a remarkable opportunity. They've got to do a Republicans have
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: to do a better job. Bryan Thomas telling their story,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: their American story to black Americans.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with that. Christopher Smith. And let's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: pause of bringing back becaus got the signature drive going on,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and I want to give you an opportunity to remind
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: folks where people can get who are registered voters in
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the city Cincinnati can get that petition signed so we
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: can bring some order in the hiring and firing process
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: of police chiefs and fire chiefs. If for no other
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: reason to to say the taxpayers a little bit of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: money and settlement agreements. Hold on, We'll bring Christopher Becketts
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: coming on in six seventeen to fifty five. Kercity talk station.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: The buddy out there. You got to give a call.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: It's Gregory Forrest Luster, Gregory Luster the talk station. If
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I have Kercity talk station. Very happy early Father's Day.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: All their father's out there, David, and that would include
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman who is on the phone. We talked about
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the importance of Juneteenth, and I agree with Christopher wholeheartily
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: on the importance of it. An opportunity to bring people together,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and I think that'd be a great thing. So that's important.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But getting this petition signed, Christopher, I know that's important
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to you as well. And an early Happy Father's Day
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: to you specifically Christopher.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy fathers Father's Day to you, Briant. And thanks
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: for the for the opportunity to talk about the petition.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: There's some great locations there. These locations are expanding every week,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: but I'll give some of them. Forty one nine Glen
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Way Avenue, that is broken Tuxedo. They can go there
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: forty one on nine Glen Way to sign the petition.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: They can also go to Dale High Barbers that's four
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to to Greenwell Avenue and it's next to Maloney's Pub
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Victor Fabro there Zi Barber. You can sign there. You
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: can go to Dave Backer Auto sixty five hundred Glenway
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Avenue to sign, or you can go to Jim and
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Jacks thirty four fifty six River Road. You know, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: don't know whether these businesses are opened or closed on
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: June Teams people should probably focus on this for next
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: week on Monday, but those are some locations that people
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: can can go neat of. This is exactly what you said,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Brian before you went to break. Our city manager currently
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: has terminated the police chief and the fire chief in
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: my opinion, without calls. I think judges are going to
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: agree and it's going to coss taxpayers millions of dollars. Currently,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: the city manager, the one who did the terminations right,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: cannot be fired without a super majriority of council. So
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: the mayor can't fire the city manager like she's firing
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: the police and fire chiefs. The city manager must be
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: presented to the board of Trustees, which are the nine
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: members of council, and seven of them have to agree
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: or not agree with the mayor. This petition brings the
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: police chief and fire chiefs into the same line, meaning
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: the city manager would have to present the police chief
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: and the fire chief to the Board of Trustees, which
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: we call in our city city Council, and a super
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: majority of them would have to agree or disagree. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: believe Brian Thomas that if this was a check in balance,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: we would not be where we are right now, because
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the court has already said in Chief Washington's case, you
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: brought me a blank sheet of paper. There was nothing
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: in his file that said he should have been terminated.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: I believe this was a political decision by the mayor.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: And so what am I talking about in this speculation,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: because that's not a fact. It's a speculation of my parts.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: But the mayor has the power to influence the city
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: manager because here she or she could say, you know what,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I don't like what you're doing. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: submit your name to the council for your termination. Well
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: that makes the manager have to really listen because it
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: puts them in a terrible spot. But there's still a
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: check in balance there. There's still a second step where
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: the city manager, right now, solely by their own power,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: with no consultation with anybody, can just walk in and
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: tell the police chief your fire or walk in and
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: look the fire cheaps in the face and say you're fired.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think one person should be able to make
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: that decision and then cost the taxpayers of Cincinnati with
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: litigations tens of millions of dollars.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Well is created by the fact that apparently there was
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: no justification for firing him in that particular case. So
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: you know, that's the idea of having council involved. One
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of them at least can raise our hand and say,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: why are we considering terminating Chief Washington? Can anybody answer that?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: The answer would have been deafening silence, because to date
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think they came up with a single reason
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: to have terminated him. That's the point of having a
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: group of people talk about the propriety of doing that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: It keeps people out of trouble. You got good faith,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: We tried, we talked about it, we brought it up.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: We had another couple of issues. They were raised. Everybody's
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: attention that served as a justification for termination, that's why
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: we did it, or there was no basis for justification.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: We just saved the city countless millions of dollars because
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of wrongful termination litigation period. End of story. More people
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: talk about it, the more these ideas get flushed out
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and are addressed. This makes perfect sense, christ And the
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: idea of this somehow interferes with the collaborative agreement. That
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: rumor that's floating around there is preposterous.
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with the collaborative agreement. This
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: absolutely has to do with hr hiring and firing of
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: the police chief and fire chief and putting what you
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: just clearly articulated a check in balance in the process.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: And I'm saying, look, let's make sure that one sole
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: person going forward. What makes me nervous as we close
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: out is that the Democratic Party is going to put
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: on their ballot next on this November most likely vote
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: against it. And Democrats in our city are going to
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: have to look through their parties in politics and say
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: what is in the best interests of Cincinnati that is
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: not what is in the best interests of mayor pure
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: vol right or members of council. This is going to
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: have the public is going to have to say, we
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: don't want to pay any more litigation, and let's bring
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: the Board of Directors.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: In on this decision.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: So sign sign that petition.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Sign the petition, Sign the petition. People can follow me
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: on x at Vote Smitherman. We'll be putting the locations there.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: And the last thing is we need seven thousand goods
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: signatures of residents that live in the city of Cincinnati.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: So if you don't live in the City of Cincinnati,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: you cannot sign the petition good That's why this conversation
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: is so important.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Thanks Happy Juneteenth and happy Happy Father's Day as well.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you man. Six twenty eight fifty five KRCD talk
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• 52:34
  Speaker 1: know about employment scams and they're going through the roof.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend.
• 52:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Brian, always good to be here, and I think
• 52:40
  Speaker 11: this is an important topic. Uh, you know, unemployment has
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: been all over the map lately, but I think it's
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: down a little bit at the moment, but I know
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: a lot of people are, you know, looking to change jobs.
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: Tiring is more interesting than ever before thanks to AI,
• 52:57
  Speaker 11: thanks to zoom calls and that sort of thing. So
• 53:00
  Speaker 11: and I also think it's good to have a reputable
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: organization like the BBB out there who's putting this information
• 53:05
  Speaker 11: out because people listen to me talk about this stuff
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: all the time, and I think they often get overwhelmed
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: with there's just so much stuff going on. You can't
• 53:15
  Speaker 11: really comprehend it all. You don't really know what to
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: do about it, so you put your head in the sand.
• 53:19
  Speaker 11: Or they just don't believe it's ever going to happen
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: to them. So you know, the FBI is always warning
• 53:25
  Speaker 11: about this stuff, which is good. You've got the big
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: tech companies warning about this stuff. And I think it's
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: helpful to have a company or an organization like the
• 53:32
  Speaker 11: BBB also putting out these kind of warnings so that
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: hopefully you can reach more people in between the intersection
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: of all these different types of organizations warning about this stuff. Hopefully,
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: if people will realize this stuff is real, it'll sink
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: in and they'll take this stuff to heart. So one
• 53:48
  Speaker 11: of the things I thought was interesting, so BBB has
• 53:51
  Speaker 11: this site called scam Tracker. I recommend it. It's helpful
• 53:54
  Speaker 11: because much like the FBI's crime Report they put out
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: every year, it sort of shows you what are the
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: common scams that are taking place out there, probably no
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: surprise to anyone, the numbers keep going up and it's
• 54:06
  Speaker 11: a lot of the same stuff. But this employment scam
• 54:09
  Speaker 11: has been out there for a while. It takes many forms.
• 54:12
  Speaker 11: But if you just look at their numbers from the
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: BBB Scam Tracker, and again, this is just one source
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: of data, right there are lots of other organizations like
• 54:19
  Speaker 11: the FBI warning about this stuff. In twenty twenty three,
• 54:23
  Speaker 11: per their scam Tracker, they had ten thousand, three hundred
• 54:26
  Speaker 11: and forty eight reports of some sort of job related scam.
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: It went up to twenty three thousand, two hundred and
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: thirty four last year. And then if you kind of
• 54:36
  Speaker 11: look at the media and loss there, it's it's between
• 54:39
  Speaker 11: one thousand and two thousand dollars over the course of
• 54:41
  Speaker 11: those years. So here's how it often works. You're looking
• 54:45
  Speaker 11: for a job and whether you know you find the job,
• 54:50
  Speaker 11: or you'll go on LinkedIn and say open to work
• 54:52
  Speaker 11: or whatever. You're looking for a job and you get
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: connected with an opportunity, and I'm going to talk a
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: little bit about how those might work. And it ends up,
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: you know, at the end of it, well, okay, yeah,
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: we'd love to hire you, but you need some training first,
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: and you need to pay for this training up front
• 55:09
  Speaker 11: and will reimburse.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: You, or or you need to buy some equipment or something.
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: You know, there's there's some angle where before you get
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: this dream job it's going to be just completely awesome,
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: you have to put money in first, right, and then
• 55:24
  Speaker 11: you're going to get reimbursed once everything is done and
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: you're on the job. And of course all along they've
• 55:31
  Speaker 11: been stringing you along. It's a scam and it's one
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: of the things I find. So, as you know, Brian,
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: I talk about this stuff a lot. I do lots
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: of presentations for different organizations so forth. Frequently recently did
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: another presentation for Frank LeRose. Again, kudos to your Secretary
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: of State. They've had these sort of traveling cybersecurity seminars
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: all around the state of Ohio gear for small businesses,
• 55:56
  Speaker 11: and they'll usually get you know, maybe a couple hundred
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: people show up at this thing, and afterwards there's a
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: chance to just talk one on one to folks. And
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: I'm constantly amazed by how people will say, well, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: I never thought this could happen to me, but it did,
• 56:09
  Speaker 11: or yeah, I was surprised how much time and effort
• 56:13
  Speaker 11: the bad guy put into the scam. And the point
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: I'm trying to make here is these people, most of
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: the people behind most of the crime. Now I'm not
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: talking about like trade secrets and military secrets, but the
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: stuff that leads to money. They're generally not really sophisticated
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: and technically skilled hackers. They're con artists who are using
• 56:34
  Speaker 11: technology to reach people and using technology to fool people,
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: to social engineer people into doing their thing. It's easy
• 56:42
  Speaker 11: to send a spoofed email that looks legitimate. It's easy
• 56:44
  Speaker 11: to make a spoof phone call or spoofed text that
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: looks legit. And by spoofing, I mean, to the naked eye,
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: the email address the email claims sort have originated from,
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: or the phone, and it looks real and you know
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: they're they're reaching large numbers of people. Again that you're
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: looking for a job, probably not a great situation to
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: be in for most people. Some people obviously desperate, so
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: their defenses are down suddenly, whether it's on LinkedIn, here's
• 57:09
  Speaker 11: a recruiter quote unquote that wants to help you. Hey,
• 57:12
  Speaker 11: here's a great job offer, too good to be true salary.
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: You know, they're taking advantage of the fact that you're
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: already potentially more likely to jump at something because you
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: need a job, which frankly I think is even more despicable.
• 57:24
  Speaker 11: They take advantage of the people, well they're looking for jobs.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: And the elderly here quite often more gullible too, so
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you get into that other realm as well. But these
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: are people are unscrupulous and well, yes, we get it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Dave had a pause r out a time in the segment.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: We've got to come back and talk about don't troll
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the scam text should be comical. But first Father's Day
• 57:42
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• 57:51
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• 57:54
  Speaker 1: where you find Dave add and the crew for your
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  Speaker 1: call it tech part of a Dave Hatter. So, so,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: don't have fun trolling the scam text. This is like
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: leading someone on who cou calls you one of those
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: those telemarketer calls when people troll them around.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, Brian. So this is I think a very
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: valuable thing for people to understand. It was originally published
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  Speaker 11: in the Wall Street Journal. Now I'll admit I get
• 58:22
  Speaker 11: a lot of these texts, and occasionally, depending on my
• 58:26
  Speaker 11: mood and what they say, I feel obligated to attempt
• 58:30
  Speaker 11: to uh play with him a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 58:33
  Speaker 11: And you know there are folks out there. I know
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: I've mentioned him on your show before. A great site
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: for people for a number of reasons.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Kit Boga.
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: Kit Boga is a guy who scams the scammers, and
• 58:42
  Speaker 11: his objective basically is to get these people talking to
• 58:45
  Speaker 11: him and then waste as much of their time as possible. Uh,
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: He's got a YouTube channel. It's very funny because eventually
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: they'll figure out he is actually scamming them. Then they
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: usually you know, that's where the fireworks ensue and the
• 58:58
  Speaker 11: hilarity kicks in.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: But it's really insightful. It's great training for people to
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: see this sort of lies. These scammers will tell. As
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: I said in the last segment about the jobs thing,
• 59:08
  Speaker 11: most of the time, these people are not super sophisticated hackers.
• 59:12
  Speaker 11: They are con artists. They're the same people who have
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: stolen your wallet out on the street, or or run
• 59:17
  Speaker 11: something like the scam and the sting, you know, one
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: hundred years ago. Now they have technology to reach people
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: and to help their scam whatever it is. And you know,
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: it's so easy, Brian, to generate text messages or phone
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: calls to a phone number. All US phone numbers follow
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: a known pattern, So I can have a server that
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: just sits in dials phone numbers and sends texts or
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: makes phone calls, right, and when it connects, everyone's got
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: that call where you know there's a delay there and
• 59:46
  Speaker 11: then it connects and you're talking to someone. It is
• 59:49
  Speaker 11: trivially easy and inexpensive to do that sort of thing.
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: And I would bet everyone in your listening audience, probably
• 59:56
  Speaker 11: you and Joe included, definitely me gets the weird sort
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: of catfishing type of text, like Okay, I thought we
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: were having lunch Monday, you know, and people will be like, well, okay,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 11: what who are you?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Right, that's exactly what they want.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 11: That's what they want, as they point out in this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: this uh this article, right, they say it seems innocent,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: but you don't know what's happening in the background. Even
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 11: if you're only giving out fake information and never click
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 11: a link, you're telling the scammer this phone number is
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: active and its owner is willing to engage and likely
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: put your number up for sale in the dark web,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: providing fresh meat for other scammers. The professional gangs who
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 11: operate these scams may not hit your number up again
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: for weeks, and you may not fall for the next one,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: but there could be a time and a few months
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: in your guard is down, you're in a rush, and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 11: you click through to say reset a password or something
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: you know, and they go on to say, and this
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: is this is the thing that I think the average
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: person doesn't understand. If you start to engage with this,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 11: right again, you've told them there's a live person there
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: and that you're willing to engage if you give them
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: any information at all. Right, If they can have access
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: to information that's leaked about you on the dark web,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: they may be able to piece enough information together to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: even again, you don't bite today well to attack on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 11: the next scam or the next scam. Understand, folks, you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: if I'm a scammer, I'm probably in some third world country.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: If I could make let's just say, if I could
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: send out ten thousand texts, I get a one percent response,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: and one percent of them somehow give me a thousand dollars.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: I'm living like a king, right. It's it's yeah, people
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: misunderstand and underestimate how little money it takes for these
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 11: people to do a lot, and they're operating at volume, right,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: So it's I understand the urge. Every once in a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 11: great while, Again, depending on what they send me, I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: will engage, usually with something like yeah, I'm at the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: FBI office, we're tracking your number now or something like that,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 11: you know, and then you see I'll get some you know,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: vulgar response and then they go away for the time being.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 11: But again, I've pretty much stopped doing that because there's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: no point guaranteeing that I'm going to get more of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: it by engaging.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: That's right, you're just for more. That is a great
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: piece of advice, Just certifying it's an accurate number alone
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: can put you into peril and jeopardy down the road
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: if for no other reason you just don't want you
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: want to avoid more of those. You don't have to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: worry about deciding what's real and what's not.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 11: Your report scam block done, all right?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: De flop max Hidden surveillance cameras so you can drive
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: around them. We'll find out about that coming up next
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: with the Intrust nine. Dave had Er doing that tech Friday.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: You follow Dave on LinkedIn. Go to LinkedIn dot com.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: He always has the articles he relies on in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: subject matter we deal with on a Friday, but other
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: articles throughout the week. It's well worth your checking out
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: what he has to say at LinkedIn. Just search for
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter and you'll find him. It's pretty easy to do.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Dave Hadder, what is this hidden surveillance cameras so you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: can drive around? What is goinging on with this one? Yeah?
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  Speaker 11: It's an interesting grind. So I'm sure you're aware of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: the Flock controversy. Flock is a license plate reading camera.
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  Speaker 11: And let me just hit you with a couple of
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  Speaker 11: headlines here, Privacy guides. Ben Jordan exposes severe security vulnerabilities
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  Speaker 11: in flock surveillance cameras. NPR why some cities are ditching
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  Speaker 11: their flock license plate readers. Electronic Frontier Foundation EFF's investigation
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  Speaker 11: exposed flocks surveillance sorry, flocks safety surveillance abuses in twenty
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  Speaker 11: twenty five Douglas County flock camera compromises company leaves it
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  Speaker 11: exposed on the internet. I could go on, but to
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  Speaker 11: get to the heart of this, So there are a
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  Speaker 11: lot of concerns flocks leaked, cops license plate searches via
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: duck duc go and bing, so you know, potentially you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 11: could have seen why someone was being searched for. Again,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 11: the list is long. I'm not a fan of these things,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 11: as you might guess. I think we talked about this
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  Speaker 11: before here and that's what right we said, yeah, thanks,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 11: but no thanks to flock cameras. But there's a lot
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: of people out there concerned about this. You know, again,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: Electronic Frontier Foundation being a good example of a privacy
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 11: friendly organization that has raised serious concerns about these But
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 11: smart people out there as interesting as all this technology
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: can be and cuts both ways so many times. There
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: are so many ways now that people will say what
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 11: can I do to try to help people who are
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: concerned about this avoid these sort of things. So someone
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: put together an app. It crowd sources twelve thousand of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 11: these cameras and basically helps you plot our out where
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: you can drive without being tracked by these things. Now
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: you know, Brian, my take on all this is always,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 11: am I going to download some app from somebody I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: don't know or trust to my phone which could do
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: who knows what, so that I can drive around these cameras?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Not going to do that.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 11: So I'm not necessarily recommending folks go out and get
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: this app, but I think it is interesting that, you know,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: there seems to be increasing concerns about this, and when
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: you look into a site like dflock or this app, right,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: it shows you how prevalent these things are now. So
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: just to hit a couple of high points from this article,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 11: deflock transforms hidden camera networks into something you can actually
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: navigate around. Works like ways for privacy conscious users. Built
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: on Open Streetmap, app displays nearly twelve thousand ALPR cameras,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: showing not just where they're installed, but which direction they
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: face and who operates them. Yousers can report new devices
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 11: they spawned, building a community driven database of surveillance infrastructure
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 11: that law enforcement and companies prefer to keep opaque. The
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 11: deflock maps companion site goes beyond mere dots on the screen.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: It generates privacy optimized routes. So it's I think, a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 11: really interesting site. They use one of my favorite terms
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: that I keep trying to raise when I talk about this, panopticon.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: For those who don't know what panopticon means, I encourage
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 11: you to look this up. It was the idea of
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: creating a prison where it's circular and in the middle
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 11: is like a guard tower. So theoretically you could be
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 11: watched all the time, but you don't know if you're
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 11: being watched. It's really interesting and sort of dystopian or
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 11: wellying type of concept. An opticon. Look it up, folks,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 11: this is what we're building with all of this surveillance technology.
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  Speaker 11: So yeah, everyone should check out dflock. I'm not saying
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: use the app, but I think a lot of folks
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 11: who aren't maybe up to speed on this and the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: capabilities and some of the potential future uses of this technology.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 11: Oh yes, because it's pretty or whellying, in my opinion,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 11: not a fan. Check out dflock and then I would
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 11: encourage you if you again, just do a little research.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 11: You'll see there are lots of concerns. Perhaps reach out
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: to your local elected officials and weigh in on this
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: sort of thing. I'm not against the cameras per se.
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  Speaker 11: I'm against the advanced capabilities of these things, the way
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 11: they have already been abused in many, many documented cases,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 11: and the possibility of things. And maybe we'll get to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 11: this one next week, Brian, I'll send it the article.
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  Speaker 11: Does a company out there now that wants to build
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: in technology so it's not just tracking your license plate,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 11: not just potentially using something like facial recognition, but reading
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: all the Bluetooth devices and so forth in your car
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 11: as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's very That's what really really concerns me. And I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: guess you know, someone could say, well, this deflock software
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: allows people to, like when they plan an assassination, they
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: can do an escape route to avoid being caught with
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a flock camera reading device. I guess I would have
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: to observe that. What about all the other thousands of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: ring doorbell cameras and other cameras that aren't hooked up
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to the flock network that are still in existence literally everywhere.
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  Speaker 11: Well, you know, I understand the argument in favor of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 11: these things, and they have been used to do some
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 11: good like find someone, whether it go oh yeah, or
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: missing children and so forth. So'm I understand the argument
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 11: for right, I understand why law enforcement wants it. But
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 11: potential dystopian negative implications of this, especially over time, and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 11: it's the capability to get more advanced, are pretty substantial.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 11: And you know, I would just people will always all
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 11: come on, Dave, that could never happen. I used to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: hear that a lot. I hear that a lot less
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 11: now because we've seen how rapidly this technology is advanced.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 11: Well again, I encourage you folks, look into the Panopticon,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 11: look into the Church Committee and what they said back
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 11: in the seventies, and then decide if you want to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: live in a state, you know, a surveillance state where
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 11: you're surveiled around the clock. Think Minority Report, you know.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 11: And I want to go back to Benjamin Franklin, He
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 11: who gives up his liberty for safety deserves neither.
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  Speaker 1: Or just reread or just reread nineteen eighty four and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: realize how far past that we already are.
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  Speaker 11: Dave, it's too depressing for me. Brian, and that's one
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: of my favorite books, but I can't even read it anymore.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: It's just too depressing.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I trust me. I've read it multiple times over my life,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and it gets worse and worse every time. I agree.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: If you know it really well, don't pick it up again.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: It's going to depress the hell out of you. Dave
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: had he Happy five. It's seven o six here a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: fifty five ker CV talk station. Happy Friday, everybody in
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: advanced Happy Father's Date. All the dads out there, I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: hope you have something great plan for the weekend. Spend
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: some time with the family. Dads out there and you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: need something to get Dad for a gift, spend some
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: time with Dad. I think that's probably what we all
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: like the best. And in studio, I love it when
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: todds Zen's there Citizen Watchdogs and of his podcast. He
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: is a citizen watchdog and you know all the best
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: best ways. Former Inspector General for the United States of America.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing when it comes to looking
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: at well, for example, budgets, and he knows all about
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the nonprofit industrial complex. Todd Zinzer, it is always a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: pleasure to have you in studio. Thank you for what
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you do all the time in your retirement, spending time
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: looking at records and crunching numbers and well revealing what
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I always like to call andigans. It's good to see
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: my friend.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: Thanks Brian, it's great to be here.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the number one issue I think
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: most recently reported the budget and the thing that has
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: constantly jumped out and basically, what is what a billion
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: dollar budget? Essentially eighth nine hundred million.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: Or it's a two billion dollars I'm sorry.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Wow, okay here, I've been listening to local news reporting
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: on this. I guess I've been duped two billion.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, just about two billion. I think it's like one
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: point eight billion.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, already corrected the record, Todd. Maybe we can
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: get some more details on the reality of that figure.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: But two million dollars in either one or two billion
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: dollars doesn't amount to really much at all. But the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: question mark swirling around I want to start with this
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Farmer Music center. I guess why in God's green Earth
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: did per of all and ultimately just barely a majority
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: of council approves sending money to this project. When the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: project was started and was going to be bill without
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the city money, why would they vo it seems like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: a volunteer like, oh, we'll make a charitable contribution the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Farmer Music Center. That's all it is. No one was
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: demanding it to the best I can tell, So what
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: in the hell is with the money? I mean, it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: almost was enough according to reporting by Scott Wortman, and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: a new fire class would run about three point two
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: or three million dollars. So they're not doing a fire class.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: They're kicking that off till next year's budget to close
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: the budget gap. I know you're going to get to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: that too, but close the budget gap that almost covers
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: the entire nut for a fire class. Would we rather
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: have some new firefighters? Do we need them? Probably? But
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the firefighters performing a job on behalf
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: of the city than a couple of million paltry dollars
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: going to the Farmer Music Center. You reaction all this, Todd,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and have you been able to ferret out why it
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: exactly is counsel or pervol was so insistent on giving
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: money to this project?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Well, the fact is that this music center. I went
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: down the City Hall and to use my two minutes
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: to tell them what an embarrassment this whole thing has
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: been to the city, And I wonder how did it
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: first come to Anna Albie's attention. Anna Albi brought this
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: resolution and bypassed the entire budget process. She introduced a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: resolution that required the city manager to put eight million
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: dollars for the music center in the budget. This was
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: an advance of any of the budget process. So right
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: off the bat they have to deal with this eight
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: million dollars, and five members of the city council voted
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: to put eight million dollars in the budget for this
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: music center. And it's like, well, how did this happen?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly?
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  Speaker 8: Who approached too?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: Who went to who?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: Because under the rules of the city council, since this
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: bribery scandal, there's a rule that any developer that comes
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: to a city council member, they have to be directed
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: to this city manager. So what's with all these discussions
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: between the developer here of the music center and these
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: members of city council. They should have been directed to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: the city manager. It would have been considered in the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: budget plus process right, and they probably my guess is
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: if they had done it correctly, they would have gotten
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: there eight million dollars.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 8: But I think these city council members thought that this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: would be a great thing and we would be heroes
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: to the city if we helped build this music center.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, you should have heard. You should have heard
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: some of these members when they were voting on this
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 8: eight million dollars, like Ryan James, he was just about
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: basically out of his seat saying what a great thing
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: this is. And Anna Albie it keeps talking about be built.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Any way, Well, you were completing it without this cash infusion.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: Well, believe it or not. That's what I said when
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: I went down there the first time. I said, I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: don't hear anybody saying that they need this money to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: complete the project. This project is going to go forward
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: whether they get eight million or anything. So I don't
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: know what went on, but somehow they came to this
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: resolution of two million dollars and it's going to be
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: funded out of the capital budget, even though it has
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: nothing to do with the city's capital so it's not
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: a city asset.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: That shoehorn in there.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: Well, apparently this is this is what's happening in municipal
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: governments all over the country is that if they give
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: money for an economic development project, at least in Ohio,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 8: it's considered a capital expense, even though it has it
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: has no relation to any city asset. They put it
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: in the budget is a capital expense, and that's apparently acceptable.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: I I want to question the financial statement auditor to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: see how they how they deal with it, but only
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: it's very common and so that's what they're going to do.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, even Councilmember Scotti Johnson, You've got to give
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: him credibility for at least being candid, although he it's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a veiled criticism quote, our credibility is starting to wane. Yeah,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: well understatement from my perspective, but at least acknowledge that, Yeah,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: people are looking at this and go whoa, whoa, whoa
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, like we are this morning. Where did
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: this brainschild come from? Why Why did she advances think
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: in advance of the budget. Why didn't Seryl Long go
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it in regular order?
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  Speaker 8: That's right? And uh, there was no mention when they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: passed this eight million dollars. There was no mention that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: the state of Ohio had already a budgeted eight million
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: dollars for it with state money.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: So so is that to suggest that it's now overfunded.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: No, I don't think it's overfunded. I think they do
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: have a funding problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh. The sins A Symphony Orchestra, which is
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: behind the project. Yes, just doesn't say that part out loud.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: That's that's good. Whisper whisper behind the scenes. Geez, we
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: don't have enough money to complete this thing. We could
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: sure use some additional millions of dollars. Right, So apparently
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that the ask was something along the order of eight
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: million and they're getting two. So perhaps it doesn't satisfy
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the hole that they've got to fill.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: That's right. And one of the things that was interesting
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: is when this was introduced, Mayor Purvol took Anna Albi
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: through her paces asking questions about, well, what's the gap,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: what's the funding gap? What do they need to fill
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: the funding gap? Is that what we're doing here with
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 8: our city money? Are we filling the gap? And she
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: didn't know what the gap was, or if she knew
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: what the gap was, she must have agreed with the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: symphony orchestra or MEMI not to say what the gap is.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: So you're suggesting purvol really had nothing to do with
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: with with this ask this with the eight million dollar ask. No,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I always kind of had it in my mind, and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: maybe that's just because I perceived him as to be
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: utterly nefarious. But behind the scenes he said, hey, ms Albi,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: why don't you advance this petition in council so we
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: can make sure the orchestra gets the money it needs
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's what happened, Okay, fair enough. I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: think Anna Albie and her other members that she discussed
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: this with, I think they brought it forward themselves.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: So if they had discussed this sort of offline, doesn't
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that bring us back to sort of like Gang of
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Five times exactly?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: It's like, how did you five get together and agree
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: to vote on this?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: There are no minutes of councils discussing these, no, I ad.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: I think they do do a round robin on the
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: phone or something like that, or they send their staffs
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: to each other to work some of these things out.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my, well, see all this swirling speculation here. You
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: and I are coming up with theories about how this
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: came about, and just by virtue of the nature of
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: how it came about lends us to this spectat That's right,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: that's exactly right. That's why we need the sunlight of
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: disinfection on all this. But in the final analysis, the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: budget has two million dollars to go to the Farmer
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Music Center. Yes, and what's the connection between maybe this
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: as perhaps a bribe to make sure that they can
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: get their hands on the adjacent real estate that we
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: keep hearing about, any connection with that.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: Well, that's the interesting thing is that it's almost what
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 8: what what the mayor has done is it's almost trumpion.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: You know, we'll give you this money, but we want
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: an opportunity to buy this property. And so now where
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: it's at, I don't they have to negotiate this two
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 8: million dollars. There's going to be negotiations go on to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: say we'll give you two million if you do X
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: y Z. And that's that's in that's what they decided
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: the other day.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Well, and that is that guaranteed amounts that's from ticket sales.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: That's one that's one of the elements. And then the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: other is this this land that they're looking at possibly
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 8: to build a hotel.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: M is there anything untoward about, you know, the city
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: giving two million dollars to this project in return for
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed amount of annual revenue from sales. I mean
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound I mean, I'll say the word legal,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound appropriate or it sounds like something
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: that could be subject to some statute or legislation.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. It's kind of Trumpian
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: to just go ahead and forcer Okay, Mars.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: You yourself on these people. They we'll have to come
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: up a name for for Mary. I have to have parval.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: You can't call them evil orange man. There's already a
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: guy with that, Moniker seven sixteen right now. More with
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: oh and by the way, apparently there wasn't a hole
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: to fill in terms of a budget deficit. More with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer. I want to think about KRCD talk station
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. With Todd Zenzer, we call him Citizen watch Dog.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: That's his podcast, which you definitely should listen to. You're
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: interested in shenanigans going on downtown Cincinnati. It's almost as
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: if they don't care. Todd Zenzer. It's like, well, we
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: know we're doing things sort of recklessly and maybe our
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: credibility is waning, but it's only waning in the hearts
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: and minds of people who actually pay attention. There are
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: so few people paying attention to these budget shenanigans that
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: that's how they get away with it, that's right. And
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: they ignore your record's requests of course, regularly, repeatedly you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: go to the the council meetings. You have things to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: say that they are free to ignore because they're not
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: obligated to respond to you. Right, it's got to be
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: really frustrating.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: Well, you just have to hold out hope that one
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: of these days it's going to sink in. But I've
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: asked for three things in the last I don't know
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: two or three budgets. I want them to have their
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: lawyers say what is legally required to spend money on
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: and what is discretionary to spend money on. I want
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: I'd like to see that examination. And I've also asked
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 8: them to put an attestation on their money requests for
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: these nonprofits that they do not have a conflict of
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: interest with any of them. Just a simple attestation.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, that seems an easy ask, very easy. Conflicts of
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: interest should be verboten, and I would imagine there's some
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: statute or law of something that makes them verboting anyway,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: you got a conflict of interest. We're going back to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: like the Gang of Five times.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 8: That's right, that's right, and all I was looking for
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: because they just submit these memos with these organizations and
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 8: how much money they want to give them.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Well, which leads us back to the initial common I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: made coming out of the break at the top of
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: the art nonprofit industrial complex, which is a phrase that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: you use, and that seems to be what's going on here.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: You went through the budget and there is just a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: very lengthy list of outside organizations that are getting money
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: out of the budget. Right.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, a lot of them aren't even identified in the budget.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: They have programs like Safe and Clean and Boots on
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: the Ground, and those two programs send money to dozens
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: of nonprofits.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: So Boots on the Ground is receiving money. That's the
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: name of a group out there in the world. Yes,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: and then they're free to go out and pick handpick
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: whoever the hell they want to receive the money to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: actually accomplish whatever Boots on the Ground are supposed to do.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: What is Boots on the Ground supposed to do?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 11: Todd.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Well, you don't even know.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: It's community yeah, fluff language, it's community activities.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: In these neighborhoods that are underserved and in need. That's right, Okay,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: here boots on the ground have some how much money
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: do they get?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 8: I don't remember that.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: But your point is it's a fuzzy goal to be achieved.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: One entity gets it, but it's not them. They're supposed
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: to be performing the work. It's others that they choose
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: to hire nngo's presumably, or subcontractors or however they held
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: their relationship works. Is there any follow up by counsel
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: on any of the recipients of this type of money
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: to find out if whatever nebulous goal that the thing
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: was started for has actually been achieved.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: Well, the only audit that I've seen of one of these,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: they're called leverage support recipients Leverage support.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: Right, It's an audit that they did a couple of
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: years ago of an outfit called the Regional Economic Development Initiative,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: which has been receiving money from the city for many, many,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: many years. And there was an audit that the internal
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: audit manager did where she came back and said that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: the records were in such condition that they couldn't even
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: be audited. She identified a fourteen thousand dollars a shortage.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 8: And when I went to city council because they were
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 8: considering last year's budget where this group would get more money, right,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: I said, shouldn't you find out whether they fixed their problems?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: The paperwork problem?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 8: Right, a paperwork problem before you give them more money?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 8: That went right over their heads.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Oh lord, And it continues year after year after year.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I want to bring times back. We got them for
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: a full hour. I want to talk about this whole
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: big problem with the giants. Defind KRNC the talk station
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: at seven thirty figuive im KRCD Talk station Brian Thomas
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: with in studio Todd Zenzer Citizen Watchdogs for podcasts and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: you got to take a listen to that one where
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Of course, former Inspector General for
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: the United States of America bringing his Inspector General skills
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: to look at the budget. And we're talking about right
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: now one of many topics we could go over with
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: the and zens are including the affordable housing project over
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: in Westwood. We may very well get a chance to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: get to the railway money, because they of course had
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: to rely on that for the budget. But the nonprofit
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: industrial complex, I asked you off air Todd, do we
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: have any idea how many people are employed as a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: consequence of these massive capital infusions, all these outside organizations.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: And I think the political patronage was a word that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: you used. It seems to be this has become a substitute.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: You know, government jobs. You used to be patrons jobs. Hey,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: you know my nephew needs a job, happy to pledge
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: your campaign? Just give them? Okay, well maybe you can't
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: get away with that, but you could hire them on
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: as a employee one of these NGOs or like iris Rolla.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: You can hire your son after you got a six
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars contract.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: That's right, That's exactly right, And we really don't know
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 8: how many. Well, first of all, it's difficult to determine
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 8: how many of these nonprofits are actually getting money from
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: the city, and then it's even more difficult to figure
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: out how many people they're employing.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Ponder your first statement, it's difficult to even know who's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: getting money.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: That's right.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: These are budget line items, that's right.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: And yet so these budget line items will give money
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: to a nonprofit, and then that nonprofit will go and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 8: identify other nonprofits to help accomplish whatever it is they're
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 8: supposed to do.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Like you pointed out in the last illustration of the
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: last segment. So that's happening on many layers. Yes, So
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: let's say four allocations to four different outside entities, and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: then that money's divided and goes into a whole bunch
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: of other engines. Now you had mentioned something about the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Angino must have as its primary source of funding money
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: other than government dollars. How does that work well?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: When at least this is how it worked under the
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 8: Leverage Support program. They've made some changes to all of
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: that in this budget. So it's hard to say. But
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: prior to this budget, in the leverage support category, people
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: or groups would have to submit applications, and as part
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: of that applications they would have to say that they're
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 8: basically a going concern without the city's money. And I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: don't know that that's ever been tested.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand your your cynical of a sort of
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: attitude towards that, Todd, I really do well, there's not
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: enough paperwork to support a multitude of things so I mean,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: why would you think that that's that? You know, they're
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: actually a going concern absent city money, all right, And
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: then this all pivots over to the broader concept of
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: oh my god, we're in a crisis. We have a
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: thirty million dollar hole. We got a fill, We're gonna
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: have to make cuts here and cuts there. You told
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: me before we started this morning that there's no budget hole.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no budget cap. One of the very telling
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: things about this thirty million dollar deficit, A big chunk
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: of money in this new budget is fifty four million
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: dollars carried over from the last budget. So they had
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: fifty four million dollars left over, which is more than
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: thirty million. So it's just it's just a very strange
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: process because you know, there's there's two aspects to the budget,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: the rep the projected revenue and the spending and the city.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: Earlier this year they used to get their revenue projections
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: from the University of Cincinnati's economics group. Well, they fired
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: you sees, and they brought their estimation in house. And
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: I wrote a letter to the finance director. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 8: why did you do that?
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  Speaker 4: Where?
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  Speaker 8: Why did you fire you? See, and all he told
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  Speaker 8: me was that, well, the council members raised concerns about
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: their work or something like.
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  Speaker 1: That, because the account's members are certainly in a position
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: to judge the economic number crunch from all the eggheads
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: at University of Cincinnati. Sure they are. Why am I
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: immediately reminded the doctor Fauci hiring in his own team
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: of experts to comment on and present a paper on
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab leak theory. The old guys, now,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: we can't take them at what they're saying. They're saying
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: it leaked out of a lab. Let me bring my
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: own team in here. Ah, magic, We don't really know,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: so we're not going to comment. That's exactly my There
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: you have it more with Todd Zenser at seven thirty
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: five right now, fifty five carse the talk station fastened
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: pro roofing the best roofers a rent. It's seven forty
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: here fifty five car City talk Station, burn Tom with
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Todd Zinzer going through the budget. For the most part,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: there's a multitude of topics we'd go over with our
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: citizen watchdog. Former Inspector General for the United States Government,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer who's in the studio, but talking about this,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: this thirty million dollar deficit, and you mentioned how the
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: numbers are crunch Councils told what on a three month
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: lag what the projected revenue is coming in, and then
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: they based are spending on that, and the reason and
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: the way you get to the thirty million dollar deficit
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: that's been oft repeated and never really questioned, and I'm
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: guilty that so far, I just took everybody at their word.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: You say they calculate the deficit based upon the number
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: projection of what's coming in the door by way of
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: revenue compared to what they want to spend. That's right,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Meaning if they wanted to spend an extra two hundred
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: million dollars, then they could say they have a projected
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: budget revenue deficit of two hundred million dollars. That's exactly
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: whatever exceeds the revenue coming in the door. That's allegedly
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: the deficit.
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  Speaker 8: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that makes no financial.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: Sense, no, it's I mean, there's so much discretionary spending
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 8: in the budget. It's to suggest that there's thirty million
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: dollars that we must spend. It just doesn't It just
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 8: doesn't make sense, the budget is nothing but a plan
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 8: and Monday morning. It might start today, but Monday morning
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: they're going to start planning to move money around in
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 8: the budget. Every meeting they move money around, and you
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 8: just it's very difficult to keep track of. But this
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 8: idea that we can't manage a two billion dollar budget
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  Speaker 8: and come up with thirty million dollars is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure anybody who knows what some of these
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: expenditures are could easily take a scalpel and slice away
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of dollars. Absolutely, and most
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: notably what really particularly irks me is maybe, yes, it's
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: a nonprofit industrial complex out there. I have to guess
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: that some of the recipients of this money are actually
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: accomplishing some kind of goal. Yes, but if they aren't
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: looking to find out, if they don't have any you know,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: matrix or some sort of you know document, a report
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: to say, look like, for example, youth violence, how many
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: youth violence programs are out there? How many ndos are
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: connect with youth viiles. I mean, that's one of iris
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: rollies kind of things too, isn't it. Government square. We're
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: going to give her allocations, they can buy some T
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: shirts and hire some people and walk around and oh,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, bridge the gap. It seems to me
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: the youth violence has remained a constant problem and it
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: actually maybe even have gotten worse, suggesting that whatever efforts
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: they have engaged in by way of funding these outside
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: organizations to fix the problem, have it worked. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Well, what they say, Brian, is that, well, if we
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 8: weren't doing this, it would be a lot worse.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Oh that's you say, now, isn't it. That's proven a negative?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: That's the response.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Well, and I suppose in certain things. You know, it's
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: like trying to keep a glass of water that has
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: a hole in it in the bottom. You've got to
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: keep pouring the water in to keep that flowing.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: Right, It's a never ending demand. I mean, Cincinnati is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 8: in the top five for poverty rates in the United States,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: and so there are a lot of residents that are
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 8: in poverty, and so the city responds with all of
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: these programs. And I really don't think people have a
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 8: big problem spending money. They just want to know what
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: they're getting for their money, right, and whether it's being
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 8: spent properly.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Well in responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars would insist on
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: that happen. That's right, because they want to show one
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: that listen, we got a great bang for your buck.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: This has been demonstrably successful. Look at the crime rate
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: drop and these given neighborhoods where these projects were going.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: That's why we want to continue to fund this one.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: And oh look over here, these projects apparently didn't work
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: because it didn't have an impact zero on whatever they
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be doing.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 8: That's right, and that's the analysis that should be done.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: This city doesn't do that. I think it's just all
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: very political.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Well, very political. Going back to how it is that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: some of these folks get these jobs, maybe rewarding folks
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: political patronage.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: That's right, that's exactly right.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to address a couple of
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: other topics coming back. I'm going to maybe touch upon
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: the railroad money. You have identified some serious issues with
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: regard to how maybe they're renaming projects or try to
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: shoehorn them into the capital budget, when so they can
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: shift new projects into the capitol budget and then have
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: existing infrastructure being dealt with what normally would have come
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: out of the Capitol budget, So snannigans with the railroad money.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I know, we'll see if we can get any accountability
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: from that and whether they've answered any of Todd's questions,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: because I know you've raised quite a few. Todd Zenser
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: first USA installation. I've got a great, great thing to
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: let you know about USA Talk Station seven fifty about
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: KRCD Talk Station Brian Thomas with Citizen Watchdog Toddzenser, former
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Inspector General for the United States in America. We're going
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: to the budget and related to issues in the city budget.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the railroad money. Widely reported that they
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: got a you know, fifty eight to fifty nine million
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: dollars from the wherever. That's the interest that was generated
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: off of the initial one point six billion investment. Got
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: a railroad board that monitors that investment and they allocate
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: the money. When the city comes over and says we
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: need money for this project.
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  Speaker 8: They actually allocated every quarter. They they send a tranche
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 8: of money to the city every quarter.
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  Speaker 1: And that's based upon the amount is based upon the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: projects that the city has earmarked for or infrastructure projects.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: No, it's just it's based on under the state law.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 8: The Railroad Board determines every year, once a year, how
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 8: much money they're going to send to the city, and
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 8: then they send that to the city on a quarterly basis.
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  Speaker 1: But the projects that I mean, the city can't use
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: the railroad money for anything. It needs to be what
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: we've all boiled down to, existing Infrastructure's correct. So they
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: can't build a brand new skateboard park with railroad money.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 8: No, they can't.
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  Speaker 1: And yet you're telling me the railroad will send them
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: over a finite amount of money every quarter. Just here here,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it is right, that's right. There's no pre check like
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  Speaker 1: you can't. Is there any railroad involvement after the fact
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: that say, are you using it on existing infrastructure?
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  Speaker 8: No, I've been advocating for the board to take some
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 8: role in oversight of that money.
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  Speaker 1: Well, who's enforcing the contractual provision that required them money
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: to use for existing infrastructure? Todd Zinzer, Well, I guess
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: we have to rely on the city to do that. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And in this hour you've given all the reasons in
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: the world. Why should we we just take the city
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: at their word. There's nothing un toward going on here.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: But Todd, Okay, the other part of this, it's that
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: this is going to add insult to injury. You're saying
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  Speaker 1: the city is taking this allocation of money from the railroad,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: the money that should only go to existing infrastructure. They're
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: taking it out of investment account and then the city
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: is putting it in its own investment account.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: Yes, the money that the money that the city can't
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 8: spend from the railroad trust that they get every quarter
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: or every year. Now if they can't spend it, they
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: put it in their investment pool with all their other investments.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: And pause on that. The reason they wouldn't be able
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: to spend it is because they haven't gotten a project
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: off the ground to throw the money at it.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 8: They they spend a lot of time planning on how
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 8: to use the railroad money. We've got this elaborate since
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: the on Track Plan, where they've they've spread the money
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: all over the city that they're going to spend over
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: the next ten years.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: They spend projects aren't ready.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: The projects aren't ready, and the city does not have
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 8: the capacity to contract and spend and carry out all
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 8: these projects. And I think I think I could probably
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 8: easily put together a case that they're not spending more
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: money than they received from the railroad on an annual basis.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: They used to get twenty five million dollars a year,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 8: and the negotiations were taking that up into thirty million.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 8: Thirty five million that's basically what they spend on new
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: infrastructure or exists the infrastructure maintenance a year. It's thirty
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: five to fifty million dollars. We didn't really need to
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 8: sell the railroad to generate that money.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we can't unwring that bell, Todd. We wish
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: we didn't have the stadium deal. We got stuck with either,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: but too bad so. But they're taking that money and
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: they're putting it into their own investment which generates interest. Right,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: So millions of dollars coming in goes into the City
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnat's investment account, which generates interest. That's new revenue,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: that's right, that the city presumably can use for anything
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: at them what pleases, like things that aren't existing infrastructure.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: That's where I would disagree, and I've been advocating. Well,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: first I advocated that the that the board not send
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: them that money right until they need it and keep
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: it in the.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Trust kind of thought. That's the way it was supposed
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: to work.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: Well, that's the way everything else works in the world.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 8: You draw down the money when you need it, right,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 8: and then if that's not going to happen, and that
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 8: I hope the board is still considering that because they
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: said something about coming back in September on that issue.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: But if you're not going to do that, then we
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: need to see on their ledgers what they're doing with
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 8: this investment income that they attribute to the board. There
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 8: was a there was an agenda item the other day
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: or the other week where they did exactly that on
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 8: these restricted funds. When they earn interest on that restricted fund,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 8: that interest has to be spent on that purpose. So
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 8: for example, if they get revenue from the water district,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 8: they've got to spend that money on the water district. Okay,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 8: it should be the same way with the railroad money.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 8: We should our accounting should be that exact.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: But you're saying they're just not in a position to
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: be able to manage the projects basically across the board.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 8: No, that's right. No, they've got they've got ten years
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 8: worth of work to do easily.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Well, and one real quickline item, considering you mentioned ten
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: years with the work, my understanding is we are many
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: years of road miles behind in repaving. They cut from
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: the one hundred they were planning on repaving from the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: budget now down to seventy road miles. So we're continuing
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: to build an even bigger backlog of unpaved roads.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 8: That's right. And I don't know that they've ever hit
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: that one hundred mile and so now there. Now they
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: have the money to fix it.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: But it's existing infrastructure, right, that's right. Hey, there's a
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: project shovel ready. They've got equipment. They could start working
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: on all of them. Right, No, let's knock down that road,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: No pun intended. Todd's ends are always enlightening, always walk
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: away America's oldest German fest And I got a line
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: up in the studio, right, and I talk about shooting
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: and fest it sounds like an MS thirteen gang group. Here,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Tom Missbach, Neil Gevinger, Paul Artsen, and Joe Russell's to
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: give us all the details on shoots and festus here, Joe,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: these guys are quite German and they are all dressed accordingly.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: And I am now the proud owner of my own
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: shoots Infest Cincinnati cap. I appreciate that gentleman, very Germanic
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: look it has. I just can't wear it when I
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: got my headphones on. But I've been to shooting Fest
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: many times. Actually I was the was it shoots in Meister,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Isn't there what they call it. I'm sorry for tapping
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: the keg, brother tapping the keg, and we've I've had
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of beers since I was shooting meiserm many
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: years ago. But it's a hell of a good time.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: And it's always nice to start with the story behind
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: schutz Infest. Again. This is the one and sixtieth if
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: I got that right.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it actually started with the German schutzen Varien and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 12: then around World War One people thought that might be
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 12: a good idea to have a bunch of Germans with guns,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 12: so so then it transitioned to the Catholic coplic Society.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 12: But it's one hundred and sixty years the schutzen Varien,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 12: the whole shitts Infest.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: And that's Cincinnatired, Yes, in Cincinnati.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: Yes, the story of Schutzinfest goes back hundreds of years,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 7: back to Germany.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's of course where we're gonna start, because
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: you can't talk about sits Infest without getting the origins
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: it shoults infest.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: So the origins of shuts infest are The legend is
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 7: that an eagle was attacking a small child in a
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: village and a German shootzer or hunter saw the eagle
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 7: and shot it down with his crossbow, and as a
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 7: reward for saving the child's life, the village named him
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 7: their kunne g or king for the for the duration
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: of the year. Well that's you and that's me today
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 7: for another couple of days.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll find out about what it is
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: to be a cuneig over the shoots infest. But the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: king is named after this shooting event. And this is
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: what I think. It's so fun about it. You can
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: get teams and you know, participate in all this. But
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: in the final analysis, you have a wooden eagle on
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: top of a pole, which represents the eagle that the
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: that attack the small attack the small child. It must
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: have been one hell of a big size eagle. That
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: reminds me of the in laws. It seats, he flies,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: they used to carry the children. Anyway, Sorry watch the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: original one, but one by one everyone fires a round
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: at this eagle, correct and eventually there's not much left
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: Eventually you get down to a splinter about an inch
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 7: long and an eighth of an inch wide. Yeah, and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: the final marksman who knocks that last splinter down becomes
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 7: king for the next year.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Right, And this is something you need to go into
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: with eyes wide open because being king, being the schutzen
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Canty requires a lot of work and energy throughout the year.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 7: There is a lot of duty and responsibility involved in
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: being king. It has been a long year. It has
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 7: been a long year, but it's been so much fun,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: not only participating in all of the events at Colping,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: but there's a lot of uh sister societies around the area.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Well, and let's speak more broadly about what it is
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: to be a member of Colping, because it is a
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: social organization, right, I mean events, fun games, all kinds of.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 7: Fans, dances, festivals. We have a bourbon club, we have
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 7: a beer a choir that we drink more beer than
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 7: I like that than acquire, but.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Like the good opportunities for folks to get together. And
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: there is no German heritage requirement to join the organization. Correct.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I would like to emphasize that because based upon what
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I have, half of my genetic information. My mom, did
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: you know anything? Don't I know? I know, I know,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: but I didn't get any German from Mom's side of
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: the family. So a big swirling question mark about weather
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: dad any. But I always felt like I have German
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: in me. But I've always felt welcome at these I mean,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: the guys embraced me. There's no cultural appropriation that goes on,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: which always kind of piss me off when people as
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: certain appropriating culture. No, it's it's great fun for everyone.
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  Speaker 7: We like to think of it as celebrating culture.
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  Speaker 1: Celebrating culture. Hey, and when you got the great food
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: and beverage, it goes along with the German culture. Let
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  Speaker 1: us all celebrate that together. So, without further ado, let's
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: talk about the lineup. It's all weekend. It's today through Sunday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Friday night from six to eleven. That's tonight obviously, Saturday
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: from three to eleven. On Sunday from one to nine
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  Speaker 1: over at the Culpling Society in Springfield Township. That is
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  Speaker 1: one O two three five Mill Road four five two
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  Speaker 1: three one easy to find right at the corner of
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  Speaker 1: Springdale and Mill. Plenty of parking if you're coming from
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  Speaker 1: any part of Cincinnati. The best way to get there
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  Speaker 1: is off of the i'm A Reagan Cross County Highway.
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  Speaker 1: Just jump off of the Mount Healthy exit, start heading
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  Speaker 1: north and you'll see Mill Road there just after you
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  Speaker 1: pass Mount Healthy and the old rinks. Now I think
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: it's the public storage now the Hilltop Plaza. When you
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: see those two things there, start looking on the right.
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  Speaker 1: There there's a traffic light there and you turn right
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  Speaker 1: and this is right around the corner. And no problem
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  Speaker 1: with parking. Usually we have so much.
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  Speaker 6: Parking, and we have a shuttle as well too, so
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  Speaker 6: if there's anything we have a little rain in the parking,
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  Speaker 6: I can get a little damp. We have a shuttle
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  Speaker 6: as well too, but we're parking on the grounds, across
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  Speaker 6: the grounds and nearby as well well.
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  Speaker 1: To the extent we have inclement weather, and I think
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  Speaker 1: the only day we really have to worry about that
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: looks like Father's Day between noon and six. They say,
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  Speaker 1: we got a good chance of rain though, but beyond
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: that limited chance of rain. But you always have indoor facilities.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we sure do. Yeah, does anyone we talk
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: about the indoor facilities? Mister Moosebach, He and Moosebach. We
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  Speaker 6: have a big hall seat six hundred people. Inside the hall,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: we have music.
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  Speaker 5: We have.
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  Speaker 3: Dining on Saturday and Sunday we will have the Schnitzel
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: of pork dinners. And this is so good chicken delicious.
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  Speaker 1: So good, well well done.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is so plenty of beer, plenty of vine. And
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: give me the kit inside the big hole kit.
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  Speaker 1: That's why when he goes there, go have fun. Put
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: a smile on your face and put aside the crazy
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: societal differences we have to and then embrace the fun.
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  Speaker 6: And then tonight is the big keg tapping tonight about
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: seven thirty. We're really honored to have WLWT anchor Mike
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  Speaker 6: Dartist will be tapping the keg to this evening.
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  Speaker 1: He'll good for him.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's going to wrap up the news and then
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: head out at right around six thirty, playing him to
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: get there around seven seven fifteen as soon as he
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: can get there, and then he'll tap the keg tonight.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: And he keeps saying, what is this I'm doing here
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: to Yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Swinging a large hammer. Will swing once.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: I told you, he's got to hit it very hard
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: otherwise people might laugh. And soon he will know all
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: the things that Brian Thomas knows about what it means
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: to be the shutz in myster at Coping Fast because
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: he's like, what, Joe, what did you get me wrapped
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: up into.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Very difficult responsibility? Oh my god?
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  Speaker 6: He told me, he said, he said, I I talked
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: to him, you know, with my day job. I talked
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: to him from time to time, and he said, he said,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: people keep coming up to me and say you're the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 6: shuts in mister. And he's like yeah, and he's like,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: what is this You've gotten me into here? So he's
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: hearing more about it than he does. He has no
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: idea how much fun he's going to have this evening.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Let's see, show up, swing your hamm or drink a
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  Speaker 1: lot of beer and have a bunch of people welcome
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  Speaker 1: you to the fold and pat you on the back
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  Speaker 1: and have a good time.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 6: And you know we have the one K beer dash
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  Speaker 6: tonight too. You know one K you heard that right,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 6: not five K, not ten K. One K with beer.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: You can drink beer while you run or maybe walk past.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: You're using the quote things with your figure. Yes, run
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: and it'll see it on the radiay, I guess right.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to know what that means that you
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  Speaker 1: really don't have to run.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's a one k beer fun run kind
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  Speaker 6: of thing, which you know winds through our scenic wooded
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: area they are coping. If you haven't seen, the colping
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: grounds are absolutely beautiful early are. Yeah, you kind of
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: have to go around the back. When you get there,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 6: you see the parking lot and then you get around back.
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  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous.
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  Speaker 6: It's a nice wooded area.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're quote unquote running this one k, you
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: have to do the stein of beer with it not
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: spill it kind of thing.
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  Speaker 6: That's no, you know what I mean, Paul tell us
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  Speaker 6: about that.
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  Speaker 12: No, you don't have to. But also I don't think
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 12: there's any many races where at the end of the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 12: finish line we give out shots of schnaps so you'll
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 12: get them to continue to get through the get your Yes,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 12: you'll get your shots of schnaps after the one whole k,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 12: and we have.
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  Speaker 7: Very few non finishers, that's right, Yeah, you know, to.
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  Speaker 1: Get me off my lazy butt. Yeah, you say it's
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: a one K, I would say, well, that's like one
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: k too many? And why bother? You think, Well, because
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: at the end you can drink beer while you're on
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: the one k. But there's also going to be snaps
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: at the end of it if you make it across
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: the finish like okay, I can do that. It's just
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: a question of incentive. There are more details about the fun,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: the games, the entertainment, and the food. We're going to
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: dive into the food a little bit more too. This
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: weekend Shoots Infest at Colping Society in Springfield Township one
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  Speaker 1: zero two three five mill Row Jostrector executives will add
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: all the information of the website. Don't go away, folks.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: We got a little bit more fun and then we're
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: going to get to Jack Winsor from Thehile Press Network
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: at a thirty be right back fifty five KRC the talk.
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  Speaker 10: Station our iHeartRadio Music Festival.
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  Speaker 1: the talk station Shoots Infest, Crazy Catch and Shoots infest
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  Speaker 1: Or in studio to push the event. It's going to
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: be fun. It always is. I've been to Shoots the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Fast many many times, and again the honor of being
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Shoots and Meiser Uh and good morning to uh the Stuttenbergs.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Just to say hello to that because I know Jim
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: and Anna put a lot of work into this over
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  Speaker 1: the year, and Tom miss Boch is in the studio
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: along with Neil Gebiger. Paul Artsen are outgoing shoots in
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Konig and Joe Wessell's giving us all the details for
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: this event this weekend, today, tomorrow and Sunday most literally
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: off air. You had mentioned that on Sunday, given its
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Father's Day, Dad's get in free. That's sir, right, that's right, yep,
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  Speaker 1: Well that's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So if you're a dad, come on down.
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  Speaker 1: Some of government, I form of ID to prove your father.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: What accept your accept your word for it. But that's great,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: like a king and trying to Father's Day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny because I read that article
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: on the Wall Street Journal the other day about this
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: dad talking about well all the dads say I don't
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: want anything. I don't want anything, and when it was
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: all boiled down, the boiled down point of the article is,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: you know, dads really do want something, and ideally dads
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: want a dad Day where they maybe you can do
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: something that they like to do with some free time,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: but maybe enjoy it with the family, like take Dad fishing,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: or get out and do some activity. Go to shoots
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: infest with Dad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dad, enjoy that better than a tie.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: For having's sake, Yes, drink beer and greet, eat great food.
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  Speaker 7: Another great reason to come out Sunday is for your
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: FCC fans. Emmanuel Ledesma, the legendary FCC player, is our
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 7: our parade Grand Marshal, so he'll be on site on
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 7: Sunday leading our parade. So come on out and see
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: and get a chance to meet him as well.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: On sticking around to He's gonna bring his wife and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: his kids. He's gonna be there and just enjoy the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: enjoy the day good.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Ask them for an autograph. And the parade's important too.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because the parade has
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: always had And this is the great thing about there's
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: so many German societies in the Greater Cincinnati area, and
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: all of them play well together, and all of them
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: go to each other's German festivals. So you usually get
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: the flags from the various German groups during the parade
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: and you can see all of them. I think it's
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: just a neat concept, neat phenomenon.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a that's a lot of fun and every
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: German club does that. I've I've had the owner of
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: participating in many parades this year carrying the German sits
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: and Carnig flag. It's always a ton of fun and
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 7: everybody gets along so well. It's just one great German community.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Just share one common thing and you can have a
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: good time. It's always like to find when I'm when
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: you go to a debate with someone, see if you
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: can find an area of common ground. And one of
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: my favorite, you know, sort of suggestions was, you know,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: if I have them my motorcycle and I'm riding around
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: and end up someplace where there are other motorcycles that
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: you all, at least like motor will get you over
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: any differences you have beyond that, start talking politics. You
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: may disagree, but you have that common bond. In this
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: particular case, it's just being German. So everybody and everybody's German.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: It should infested last weekend there we welcome everybody, whether
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: you whether you know you know you've done your twenty
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: three and me or not, and you know whether or
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: not you got a little German in you or not
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: you have a little German in you. This weekend out
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 6: of Coping and Springfield Township.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: At least I don't lie and claim I'm Native American,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's German.
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  Speaker 6: Even Native Americans are German this weekend.
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  Speaker 12: And the one thing that binds us all together is
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 12: a great German beer this weekend. Yes, we have Varsteiner beer, which.
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  Speaker 1: We are partaking right now. Yeah, Thomas Theoret and.
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  Speaker 12: Kerney glowed big beer, Hallfrow Beer. So quite a bit
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 12: of different beers. And then as Tom said, we've got
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 12: the the schnitzel, the chicken dinners, the souer crop balls,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 12: the potato pancakes, the sotis.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Hungry brought in two big boxes, a servati strewl. And
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that is a boating on
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: my diet. I'm was looking at my mouth starts going
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: just a little water in mouth. And you also have
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: a big grand raffle. You got a bunch of nice cheese.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: How about gasoline for a year there.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: You go, well, yeah, and that's more important now to
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: as you notice gas prices that are starting to come down.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: So at two thousand dollars, you can stretch it a
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: little further.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Sure can split the pot ye a minimum payout of
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: five grand.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: We don't know. We want to split the pot. You
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: don't know what it's going to be worth, and it
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: could high. It could go high, of course it is.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: That's what it says minimum. And the kitchen appliance package
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: is from Wrecker and Burger and that's going to be
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: nice as well. So there's some opportunities to win things.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: How about children, they get it free if thereunder fifteen,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: I get that. Yeh. This is definitely a family friendly event.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it costs five dollars to get in.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 6: Father's are free on Sunday. Anybody fifteen and under is free,
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  Speaker 6: of course, and we have lots of things to do
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: for the kids. There's gonna be a little jump house
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: like an optical inflatable opticle of course area. All that
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: is free, so there'd be things to do. They'll be
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: able to roses, pizza booth. So if they don't want
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: to eat the schnitze or the saur crapols, I don't
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 6: know why. That's what I was raised on. But if
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 6: they don't, mom and Dad want to eat it, kids
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: are like, no, that's gikky. You can get some pepperoni
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: pizza or cheese pizza over there and have that so
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: everybody can have a good time and the kids will
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: be happy as well too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we would be remissed, you'd be remissing your obligations
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  Speaker 1: and I would too if we didn't mention the music,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: especially Bigstrasa boys, echoes, Leda Khns and beerband. Yeah, that's great.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Polka Cola cola, yeah.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: And we also have some American music too. The Friday,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: the cassette junkies will be there. Saturday the remains will
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: be there. And of course you know all kinds of
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: all kinds of stuff too. So if German music isn't
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: your thing, or you like to mix it up a
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: little bit, we have three music stages going all the time,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: all weekend long, it's.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Going to be a fantastic time. It always is. Put
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: a sm on your phase be a ten, one zero,
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  Speaker 1: two three five. Mil Row the Home of the Coping
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  Speaker 1: Society in Springfield Township getting today six to eleven PM,
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow three to eleven and on Sunday one to nine
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: again Dad's get in free on Sunday. Guys, I rish
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: you all the luck in the world on a successful event.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: It sounds like the weather's going to be cooperating with
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: you for the most part. But you got that air conditioned,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: massive building in there with all the great foods, so
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be happy throughout the entire event this weekend.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: And well, Paul, congratulations for a year well served. And
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be pleased to pass the torch. I'm sorry, Neil, Neil.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: Right, absolutely, you know it's a it's kind of bittersweet.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Bittersweet.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 7: I've had such a great time, but I will admit
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: I am looking forward to getting control of my calendar
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: back fair enough.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you guys are all football fans. Joe
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: screaming in my head about the game being the games
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: are gonna be.
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  Speaker 6: We've got TV set up all over the ground, a
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: FIFA action, of course you would. Of course we are
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: football fans too, Yeah, I bet you are.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: You know, in a nod to Joe Strecker's late father,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: a huge soccer fan he was. I'm sure Joe's going
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: to be watching the game while he's there. It shoulds
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: infest as well. Thanks for coming in, guys. Well, Happy
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  Speaker 1: Father's Day. All the dad's out there coming up on
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Sunday and without further ado, it's that time of the
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  Speaker 1: week we get to talk to the Ohio Pressnetwork dot
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  Speaker 1: COM's Jack Windsor Jack Welcome back to the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: Carsey Morning Show. My friends. Always, I love having you
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  Speaker 1: on the show.
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  Speaker 10: Brian, It's always an honor and pleasure to be here
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 10: with you and the listeners. Thank you for choosing me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad your topic number one is something that's really
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  Speaker 1: irking me and has been irking me because I have
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  Speaker 1: from lips of people who feel this way, and most recently,
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  Speaker 1: based on a post I saw on Facebook for one
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  Speaker 1: of the most men, the men I most respect in
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  Speaker 1: my entire education career, a man who had the most
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry I'm boiling it down if I misquoting,
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  Speaker 1: but I just it really blew me away that he
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  Speaker 1: would have this attitude. He is not, under any circumstances
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  Speaker 1: going to vote for doctor Amy Acton made that very
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  Speaker 1: eminently clear. However, maybe sitting out voting for governor at
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  Speaker 1: all because for whatever reason, I guess vv Ramaswami isn't
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  Speaker 1: about Vida Ramaswami, who I respect for this job. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. He has a vested interest in
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  Speaker 1: bringing about some greatness in our state and making us
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  Speaker 1: more competitive. And he doesn't need the job. Jack. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's something really I think great
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  Speaker 1: about a guy who's willing to dedicate some of his
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  Speaker 1: time after being successful in business and wanting to come
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: back and maybe give something back to the state that
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: he really that he became so successful in Jack. But
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: I hear some people putting aside his particular comments about
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  Speaker 1: maybe sitting it out, but also that they won't vote
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  Speaker 1: for him because he's a person of color and because
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  Speaker 1: he is Hindu. The first thing I say about the
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  Speaker 1: latter point is we don't live in a theocracy. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what religion. We went through this with Jack
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy back when he was voted president. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to lookt a Catholic president. The Pope's going
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  Speaker 1: to rule, you know, states of America. Yeah, we got
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  Speaker 1: over that and it wasn't a thing. Jack. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: I been long winded, but this one's gotten none of
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  Speaker 1: my skin.
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  Speaker 10: I don't blame you, and I'm gonna actually add some
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  Speaker 10: fuel to the fire here. Yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard, in her
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  Speaker 10: parting shot to the deep state, released files never seen
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  Speaker 10: before on doctor Anthony Fauci, claiming that he funneled millions
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  Speaker 10: and tax dollars into gain a function research at the
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  Speaker 10: Wuhan Lab light his rear end off about lab league origins,
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  Speaker 10: and straight up perjured himself to Congress in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: And you go, well, why does that matter?
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  Speaker 10: Because female Fauci, Amy Acton was running Ohio and using
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  Speaker 10: the same level of secrecy and guilting, blaming, shaming, and
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  Speaker 10: canceling people who went against the narrative. And I look
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  Speaker 10: at that and realized that Amy Actin should not run
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  Speaker 10: a bake sale, let alone be the governor of the
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  Speaker 10: state of Ohio. And you go, okay, So is this
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  Speaker 10: another one of those lesser of two evils? I don't
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  Speaker 10: see it that way, Brian. I do believe that there
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  Speaker 10: are there's a certain level of groping, if I may
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  Speaker 10: call it, that gropers are real, and some of them
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  Speaker 10: reside on the right side of the political spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're seeing some of that. But you're right.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a theocracy.
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  Speaker 10: This is a representative constitutional republic, and the idea is
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  Speaker 10: to elect people who can carry out the policy decisions
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  Speaker 10: that you believe are going to be better to run
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  Speaker 10: in this instance, the state of Ohio. And it always
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  Speaker 10: strikes me a little bit odd that, and I consider
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  Speaker 10: myself a Protestant Christian evangelical that some evangelicals, or at
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 10: least people who are trying to influence the evangelicals, say well,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 10: he's not a Christian and he has a funny last name,
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  Speaker 10: And I say, well, the last I checked, Donald Trump
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: was a prominent Democrat for a long time. And though
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  Speaker 10: he does credit God a lot, and I know that
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  Speaker 10: he allows people to pray for him, looking back to
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  Speaker 10: when he had his rise to power as a presidential candidate,
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  Speaker 10: I wouldn't have said with confidence that he was a
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  Speaker 10: strong Christian. Yet that did not seem to matter. So
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  Speaker 10: it's odd to me now that it does.
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  Speaker 1: What more can anyone say on that?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And when you move over to what truly matters jack policy,
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  Speaker 1: go up and down the line. What does vv. Ramosomi
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  Speaker 1: want for Ohio? And where does anybody have any objection
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  Speaker 1: to the prosperity he wants to bring to Ohio And
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  Speaker 1: in the mechanisms by which he plans on bringing that prosperity,
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  Speaker 1: like opening up and you know, get some easier regulations
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  Speaker 1: or lightning the regulations on energy production. You know, he's
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: a big, small, modular reactor guy. Let's bring those online.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get more businesses and revenue in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways we can bring that about.
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  Speaker 1: And he's really, I would, I think popular among conservatives
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  Speaker 1: who otherwise want lower taxes. He's got the ideas about
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  Speaker 1: property taxes and income taxes. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what more people are looking for. And again I'll go
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  Speaker 1: back to it. I'll throw out the good for the
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  Speaker 1: sake of great because there is not a single politician
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  Speaker 1: that falls into the latter category.
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  Speaker 10: No, And I think some one that we often put
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  Speaker 10: on a pedestal on the right would be Ronald Reagan, clearly,
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  Speaker 10: and I was a big Reagan fan. But let's look
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  Speaker 10: back at his career, and listen, I'm not saying this
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  Speaker 10: to disparage him, but big pharma and the protections that
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 10: they have really started under Ronald Reagan. So you can
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  Speaker 10: look back and go, well, maybe he didn't get it
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  Speaker 10: perfectly correct, but damn he did a good job the
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  Speaker 10: other eighty percent of the time. And I think that's
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  Speaker 10: one of the predicaments the Conservatives find themselves in here.
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  Speaker 10: You may not agree with everything the THEAG does, but
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 10: do you want a full blown socialist who walks arm
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  Speaker 10: in arm with Hillary Clinton's twenty sixteen campaign lawyer Mark
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  Speaker 10: Elias talking Amy Acton. I mean, the choice is clear,
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  Speaker 10: and sitting it out is a vote for Amy Acton.
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  Speaker 10: That's the only way I can conclude Jack windsor bed,
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  Speaker 10: especially given how close the polling end, which also disturbs
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  Speaker 10: me that the polling is so close in a particularly
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  Speaker 10: red state like Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Don't away. Jack's gonna give us some information about the
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  Speaker 1: FBI and Ohio voting fraud. Some subpoenas have been issued,
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  Speaker 1: got some shenanigans maybe going on. Plus he's also going
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  Speaker 1: to be speaking at the America two fifty celebration. We
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  Speaker 1: heard from Donald and Neil earlier in the week about
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  Speaker 1: that in Columbus on Monday, more with Jack Windsor from
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  Speaker 1: This FBI investigating the Ohio Organizing Collaborative. Apparently they did
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  Speaker 1: a they issued a search warrant and did a search
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  Speaker 1: of this organization. And immediately it's like, wait a second.
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  Speaker 1: In order to issue a search warrant, you need probable
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  Speaker 1: cause that a crime has been committed, and you need
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  Speaker 1: to convince a judge of that. And I know sometimes
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  Speaker 1: judges are a little leaning or light on that, but
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  Speaker 1: you have to have evidence of the commission of a
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  Speaker 1: crime to justify searching any organization. Jack, we don't usually
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  Speaker 1: get in much, if by way of any details from
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  Speaker 1: the FBI in quote unquote ongoing investigation. So in this
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  Speaker 1: case do we because I know they broadened their searches
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  Speaker 1: related to this Ohio organization and just served one of
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  Speaker 1: their financial backers with a subpoena, which is just a
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  Speaker 1: request for documents and information, not a search warrant. So
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  Speaker 1: where are we break it down for my listening audience
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  Speaker 1: to me, Jack? Yeah, thank you, Brian. What we know?
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  Speaker 10: FBI agents executed a search at Cleveland offices of the
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  Speaker 10: Ohio Organizing Collaborative, which is a progressive nonprofit heavily involved
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  Speaker 10: in voter registration and voting rights work, is what they say.
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  Speaker 10: Agents seized documents, computers, electronic devices, and they also fanned
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  Speaker 10: out across the state, showing up at staff and volunteer
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  Speaker 10: homes with subpoenas and questioning people connected to the group's
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  Speaker 10: canvassing operations. Now, the search warrant remains under seal, which
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  Speaker 10: is standard in active federal investigations, and a week later,
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  Speaker 10: as of today, many questions are still unanswered and additional
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  Speaker 10: document requests or subpoenas are reportedly still outstanding. But that's
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  Speaker 10: really common practice, and it appears to me, Brian, I
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  Speaker 10: have to be careful because I don't want to impede
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  Speaker 10: an investigation, and I don't want to lead folks astray.
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  Speaker 10: I did a lot of calling around last week and
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  Speaker 10: over the weekend, and what I've been able to learn
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  Speaker 10: it this is a pretty serious federal action and we
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  Speaker 10: should probably let the FBI and prosecutors do their job.
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  Speaker 10: Some members of the mainstream press, as you know you've
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  Speaker 10: seen my social media posts, are clamoring about what we
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  Speaker 10: still don't know much, and that's really standard fair. The
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  Speaker 10: investigation appears centered on the group's large scale voter registration efforts,
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  Speaker 10: and the Ohio Organizing Collaborative and its affiliates have been
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  Speaker 10: responsible for adding tens of thousands of voters. Reports site
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  Speaker 10: nearly one hundred and sixty thousand and two hundred or
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  Speaker 10: in twenty twenty four a loan through their canvassing drives.
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  Speaker 10: So progressive organization registers voters we know, for example, in
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  Speaker 10: the Hamilton County area at one point there were some
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  Speaker 10: just knowingly fraudulent people who were signed up a former
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  Speaker 10: US Secretary of State who was since debt or had
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  Speaker 10: had passed on already, and many forms were turned over.
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  Speaker 10: They all had the same handwriting. Interestingly, yet they represented
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  Speaker 10: a bevy of alleged voters who had registered. So those
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  Speaker 10: are the types of things they're looking into. Is the
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  Speaker 10: best that I can determine is.
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  Speaker 1: This FBI investigation was it launched as a consequence of
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  Speaker 1: Frank LeRose deep die into this and his audit that
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  Speaker 1: determined that there were in fact illegal folks that they
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  Speaker 1: had no legal right to vote, that actually did vote,
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  Speaker 1: and that there were some irregularities, if not outright fraud
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the voter registration that he uncovered in
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  Speaker 1: his audit.
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  Speaker 10: I think that, Yeah, Frank is not willing to I
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  Speaker 10: think talk a lot about that, and I respect that.
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  Speaker 10: And by the way, Frank is a Green Beret, so
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  Speaker 10: he's Special Forces and he understands communications and intelligence operations.
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  Speaker 10: But more than a year before the raid, I want
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  Speaker 10: to go back in early twenty twenty five, the FBI
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  Speaker 10: had already reached out to Cuyahoga County, which is for
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  Speaker 10: your listeners, they probably already know Cleveland area. They reached
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  Speaker 10: out to election officials. They're asking about voter registration forms
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  Speaker 10: submitted by Black Fork Strategies, a firm that's owned by
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  Speaker 10: one of the Ohio Organizing Collaboratives founders, and county officials
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  Speaker 10: had filed complaints about those forms with the state during
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  Speaker 10: that June eleventh raid. In those searches, agents specifically questioned
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  Speaker 10: people about potential voter registration fraud or irregularities. So this
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  Speaker 10: is not a new concern in Ohio. I think some
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  Speaker 10: of it probably does tie to Larro's although I can't
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  Speaker 10: say that definitively.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I understand you can't stay the thinda
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, But I know that he did a he
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  Speaker 1: researched this and investigated and actually came up with the goods.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there were a one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: four or some seemingly small amount of actually identified for
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  Speaker 1: illegal votes. But any if it can be done, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the fundamental point. And most notably if you
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  Speaker 1: look at Ohio, maybe it's a very very small number,
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  Speaker 1: but we're pretty good about keeping our voting roles polished
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  Speaker 1: up and accurate, I mean, better than many states. In
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  Speaker 1: contrast that with a state like California, where they don't
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  Speaker 1: even lift a finger to find out, So you know
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  Speaker 1: it's going on. If it can happen here, and when
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  Speaker 1: we do scrutinize it to some degree, it can happen
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  Speaker 1: anywhere and probably is which is well, I'll throw in
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  Speaker 1: a word for the Save Act, which seems like it's
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  Speaker 1: to be dead on arrival in the Senate for reasons
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  Speaker 1: unknown to me. Jack Windsor Pauser, bring Jack back. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to be speaking on Monday at the two to
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  Speaker 1: fifty celebration AFP for Americans for Prosperity was on the
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  Speaker 1: show program earlier this week talking about it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's too late to get a bus ride
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  Speaker 1: from George Brennman over it Restore Liberty dot us, but
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  Speaker 1: I know he had chartered a bus. Maybe there's still
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  Speaker 1: a seat available if you don't want to drive yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jack about that fun thing going on
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  Speaker 1: on Monday after this.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor from the Hot Press Network finishes up the
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  Speaker 1: show with us every week beginning of day thirty. I
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: recommend you check out his website and bookmarket. You'd be
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  Speaker 1: glad you did. The Ohio Pressnetwork dot com. Great reporting
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: and some wonderful collection of articles, and you'll see what
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: Jack has to say about a lot of topics and
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: he does speak with a whole lot of people and
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: tries to get the inside skinny on it. But he
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: also is going to speak at the America two fifty
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  Speaker 1: Celebration in Columbus coming up on Monday. We had Donovan
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  Speaker 1: and Neil for Americans for Prosperity on earlier this week
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. Jack, I'm excited for you. I appreciate
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: you getting the invitation and you got some good company
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be with. Tell us all about it.
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  Speaker 10: I am humbled and honored. It's themed one small step,
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  Speaker 10: but as I said yesterday, the America two hundred and
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  Speaker 10: fifty Celebration is not being locked in DC and you
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  Speaker 10: can come out to Columbus, Ohio and enjoy an incredible celebration.
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  Speaker 10: Columbus has been selected as one of twelve stops across
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  Speaker 10: the country to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday
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  Speaker 10: that has been put together by Americans for Prosperity, the
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  Speaker 10: Libre Initiative, Concerned Veterans for America, and you'll hear from
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  Speaker 10: people like Kelly Williams Bowler, an Akron mom who crossed
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  Speaker 10: a school boundary to give her daughters a better future
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  Speaker 10: and paid a price no parent should ever pay. She
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  Speaker 10: was actually arrested for that.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I hear the summary of that story, it
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  Speaker 1: just send chills down my spine. We live in this
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, militant, militaristic attitude towards schools.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you will not leave, you will not cross
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  Speaker 1: this border.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's crazy. And she took that one small step
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  Speaker 10: and there she is. And then Brian Anderson, a triple
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 10: amputee who refused to let a battlefield define his limits.
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  Speaker 10: Brian's story of perseverance is the American spirit in its
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  Speaker 10: purest form. He's a combat veteran, obviously Purple Heart recipient,
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  Speaker 10: actor and author Brad Friedel, whom I'll get to talk
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  Speaker 10: with during a fireside chat at the event, is the
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  Speaker 10: United States men's national team goalkeeper from back in the
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  Speaker 10: day has competed in the World Cup. Coffee Anderson, a
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 10: country music artist known for his hit song Mystery, Red
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  Speaker 10: White and Blue, and a host of other people will
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  Speaker 10: be there, and the goal really is to celebrate the freest,
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  Speaker 10: greatest country on the planet. And Brian, I have to
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 10: tell you this real quick because interviewing Brad Friedel will
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  Speaker 10: be fun. And there's a really interesting tie in here
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 10: for the folks who are soccer fans watching the World
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  Speaker 10: Cup right now. I don't know if you're paying attention online,
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  Speaker 10: but there are some of your Europeans who are here
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 10: and they're going, well, wait a minute. We were fed
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 10: a bill of goods where I'm from that says America
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  Speaker 10: is this way, but I come here and I love
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  Speaker 10: this place. That's the kind of spirit that we're going
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 10: to celebrate on Monday the twenty second.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Jack, I was just gonna say, you're finishing
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  Speaker 1: your thought. I had already put a question in my
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: mind to ask you when you're speaking with him. Since
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: he has played in World Cup soccer games, I imagine
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  Speaker 1: he is quite the world traveler, has been all over
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  Speaker 1: the place on different pitches, playing different games in different countries.
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  Speaker 1: Ask him to compare whatever countries he's been to to
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  Speaker 1: the United States. Is there any country out there that
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: does it better, that has it better, that is superior
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  Speaker 1: in any way, shape or for the United States, And
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: on maybe some category it might be possible, But the
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: rest of I mean, you gotta understand the rest.
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  Speaker 3: Of the world.
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  Speaker 1: It lives as though they're in third world status compared
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  Speaker 1: to the way we live. I think we don't appreciate
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  Speaker 1: how good we've got it here, Jack, We really don't.
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  Speaker 10: And at the end of the day, you and I
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 10: are probably blessed with more of a libertarian bent.
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  Speaker 1: That's me.
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  Speaker 10: And people will tell us what they value right. They
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 10: vote with their feet. People still want to come to
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  Speaker 10: America by numbers that are not even closely compared when
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 10: you look at other countries. America is still the cats
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  Speaker 10: mew And as many problems as we believe that we
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 10: have and we do, we have to get some things
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 10: right here.
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  Speaker 1: We have to really stave.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 10: Off this toxic progressive movement that has marched through our
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 10: institutions for forty years. But at the end of the day,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 10: this is still the best game in town.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and you know what.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I started the morning show with Christopher smith
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  Speaker 1: Aman talking about June teenth. What a great thing to
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: honor because it marks a moment in time where you
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: can embrace the reality that we made a major advancement
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: the liberation of people from slavery with the work of
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: a Republican president. A lot of white people who went
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: to the battlefield to keep the Republic together and also
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: to fight off slavery, human life lost on a grand scale.
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  Speaker 1: And what a great step forward this day represents. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, people who negated and think this is some
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  Speaker 1: sort of like I don't know, Kowanzui holiday, I think
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  Speaker 1: they missed the point. And that's why I bring that
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  Speaker 1: back up in the tail end of our conversation. Jack
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  Speaker 1: winsor theohiopressnetwork dot com. Have a great time at the
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  Speaker 1: event on Monday. I wish I could be there, but
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  Speaker 1: I do have to get up and go to work.
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  Speaker 1: It's a school night for me. So enjoy it, celebrate it.
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  Speaker 1: I hope all goes well and then everybody walks out
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  Speaker 1: of that event with a really strong feeling of patriotism,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what it's all about during as we celebrate
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  Speaker 1: our two fiftieth grab a great weekend. Jack. If it applies,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know, you can tell me right now,
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  Speaker 1: I hope you have a happy Father's Day. It does apply.
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  Speaker 10: I'm blessed with a biological daughter and two bonus kids,
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  Speaker 10: and that chokes me up.
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  Speaker 1: That's the greatest role I play, and it's why I do.
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  Speaker 5: What I do.
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  Speaker 1: That is wonderful. Have a great time Jack. It's eight
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  Speaker 1: fifty five coming to an eight fifty six that you
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  Speaker 1: have Kars detaxation, speaking of Smithim and six oh five
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