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Seven Amazing Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you for joining
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  Speaker 2: me for a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal.
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  Speaker 2: Today's episode is called seven Amazing Onboard UFO Encounters. This
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  Speaker 2: is my favorite aspect of UFO investigations. Not only is
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  Speaker 2: it the most interesting, I think, but really has the
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  Speaker 2: most potential to answer the many questions surrounding this subject,
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  Speaker 2: such as who are these visitors to our planet? Where
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  Speaker 2: do they come from? Why are they here. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fear and confusion surrounding this subject. I think
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  Speaker 2: the only way to overcome that is to really study it.
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  Speaker 2: Turn the unknown into the known, and that I think
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  Speaker 2: will eliminate the fear and confusion surrounding this subject. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons I do this research that because
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  Speaker 2: so many people are having these experiences, you can dismiss
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  Speaker 2: ten cases there, one hundred, or even one thousand, but
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  Speaker 2: there's tens of thousands, and there's good research indicating that
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  Speaker 2: it may number.
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  Speaker 1: In the millions.
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  Speaker 2: That alone makes the subject of crucial importance because so
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  Speaker 2: many people are having this type of encounter. So the
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  Speaker 2: cases I've chosen for you today are not very well known.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if you've heard of all of them,
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  Speaker 2: maybe one or two, but I'm guessing you probably haven't
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  Speaker 2: heard of any of these. I really like finding those
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  Speaker 2: more obscure cases, the ones that haven't already been covered
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  Speaker 2: over and over again. I've got seven cases which come
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  Speaker 2: from all across the world, three from outside of the
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  Speaker 2: United States, including England, Argentina, and Brazil, and for from
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  Speaker 2: within the United States, including New York, New Jersey, Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania. These cases go way back to nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 2: four all the way up to twenty ten, so quite
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  Speaker 2: a wide range of time there, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: cover them chronological.
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  Speaker 1: That's seven decades.
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  Speaker 2: So this is really interesting to me to see how
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  Speaker 2: these experiences evolve over time, and really they're very consistent.
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  Speaker 2: These cases do involve a wide variety of et types,
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  Speaker 2: so we have short, little humanoids with dark skin, light skin, grays,
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  Speaker 2: human looking ets. There's really an amazing variety. Some of
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  Speaker 2: these are multiple witness cases as well. There are physiological
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  Speaker 2: effects and all the sort of things that we do
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  Speaker 2: see in these types of experiences. So let's just go
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  Speaker 2: to the first case, which is super fascinating, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: guessing you haven't heard it before. This one I call
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  Speaker 2: I was completely paralyzed.
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  Speaker 1: This occurred on.
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  Speaker 2: November two, nineteen fifty four, in Santo Amaro, Brazil, And
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  Speaker 2: this is one of those cases that was very nearly
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  Speaker 2: lost to posterity and was really coincidence that brought it
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  Speaker 2: out into the public eye. But I think it's an
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  Speaker 2: important case. This first case comes from Colonel adil Do
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  Speaker 2: ala Vera. He is the chief of the Brazilian Air
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  Speaker 2: Force's UFO Research Group, and he reports that this case,
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  Speaker 2: which he calls quote disturbing, was actually kept secret for
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  Speaker 2: some time, but during a press conference he released the
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  Speaker 2: details to her reporter for the Brazilian magazine called Revista
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  Speaker 2: de Simana, and the story was printed there, along with
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  Speaker 2: a verbatim transcript of an interview with the witness. There's
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  Speaker 2: just one witness, a taxi driver by the name of
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  Speaker 2: Morelio Braga Godoi. Now some sources mistakenly print his name
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  Speaker 2: as Marsilio, but no, it's Morelio. It was a half
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  Speaker 2: hour after midnight on November second, nineteen fifty four, as
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  Speaker 2: Morelio left the Santo Amaro streetcar terminal in Santo Amaro.
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  Speaker 2: This is a suburb of Sao Paulo, Brazil. I can
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  Speaker 2: see it here. At that hour, the streets were deserted,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll just quote Morillio directly, as he says, when
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  Speaker 2: I arrived at Andaguara Street, I was startled to see
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  Speaker 2: a luminous circular object about ninety to one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty feet in diameter or thirty to forty meters, surrounded
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  Speaker 2: by a strange reddish blue or violet glow. This light
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  Speaker 2: was soft and diffuse, and seemed to come from the
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  Speaker 2: periphery of the object, which was landed on a level place.
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  Speaker 2: So curious about the alien craft, I decided to investigate.
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  Speaker 2: But as I approached it, I realized that the strange
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  Speaker 2: thing was greater in size and height than it looked before,
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  Speaker 2: and in fact it was a very big machine. Then
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  Speaker 2: I stopped for a few seconds, a little frightened. The
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  Speaker 2: weird machine was unlike anything I had ever seen. So
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  Speaker 2: this craft, which he described as round, sat on an
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  Speaker 2: empty lot between two houses about sixty feet away from him.
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  Speaker 2: He really wasn't sure what to do next. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: his first impulse was to run away and contact authorities,
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  Speaker 2: But when he tried to do this, he found that
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  Speaker 2: he was rooted to the spot he couldn't move.
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  Speaker 1: He tried to.
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  Speaker 2: Cry out, but also discovered that he couldn't make a noise,
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  Speaker 2: and as he says, the emotion was paralyzing a strange
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  Speaker 2: feeling that persisted for some time. When the spell was broken,
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  Speaker 2: I decided then to make a close examination of the object,
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  Speaker 2: and my caution left me completely, so I continued walking
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  Speaker 2: towards it. Nearing the ship, I noticed an open door
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  Speaker 2: at one side. Not stopping to think, I came into
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  Speaker 2: the ship, but I cannot tell now if I stepped
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  Speaker 2: through a staircase or another thing. I entered into a
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  Speaker 2: large circular room, illuminated by a diffuse and soft light,
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  Speaker 2: but I couldn't find the lamps. No one was in sight.
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  Speaker 2: The craft seemed to be deserted. At the center of
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  Speaker 2: the there was a strangely shaped table, having behind it
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  Speaker 2: some kind of support, which appeared to be some type
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  Speaker 2: of chair. Over the table, I saw some charts and maps.
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  Speaker 2: One of them immediately attracted my attention because it irradiated
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  Speaker 2: a phosphorate glow. It was I recognized a map of
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  Speaker 2: South America. I approached it to take a closer look
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  Speaker 2: to see if there was something written on it. I
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  Speaker 2: only noted the presence of marks or symbols, which appeared
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  Speaker 2: to be mushroom shaped. They were scattered through the map
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  Speaker 2: with no understandable pattern. Now, suddenly Morelio realized that he
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  Speaker 2: was no longer alone in the room, and in fact,
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  Speaker 2: three humanoid figures were with him. It appeared to him
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  Speaker 2: that they had almost walked through the walls. He had
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  Speaker 2: just finished studying the map when he saw them. As
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  Speaker 2: he says, I raised my head and froze where I
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  Speaker 2: was scared. I saw that I wasn't alone in the
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  Speaker 2: place anymore. Three persons were standing in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: I say persons because they were like me, But they
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  Speaker 2: were smaller than me, less than one point five meters
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  Speaker 2: or about four and a half feet tall.
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  Speaker 1: He said.
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  Speaker 2: They had dark brown complexions, and their hair was black
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  Speaker 2: cut very short. Their clothes were a one piece garment
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  Speaker 2: like overalls, light gray in color. I saw no zippers
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  Speaker 2: or buttons or anything like that. The three men were
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  Speaker 2: not good looking, so Morelio also noticed that they were
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  Speaker 2: wearing what looked like a belt around their waist. Each
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  Speaker 2: of them had a weird looking object which was attached
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  Speaker 2: to the belt, which Morilio suspected might be a weapon,
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  Speaker 2: but he had no proof of this. The men stared
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  Speaker 2: at him, and Morelio had the impression that they were
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  Speaker 2: interested in his physical form. As he says, the expression
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  Speaker 2: on their faces and eyes told me clearly that I
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  Speaker 2: was being submitted to a careful inspection. I still couldn't
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  Speaker 2: move and was so stunned that my voice had disappeared too.
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  Speaker 2: Then the men started to talk with each other about
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  Speaker 2: me in an alien language. I didn't understand the words,
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  Speaker 2: but I noticed the peculiar characteristic of that dialect. The
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  Speaker 2: letter K was repeated many times at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the words, more than any other letter. So although Morillo
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  Speaker 2: didn't understand the language, was obvious to him that they
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  Speaker 2: were talking about him. But unfortunately, his fear was so
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming that he was really unable to react. And as
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  Speaker 2: he says, it was a strange scene. I was completely
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  Speaker 2: paralyzed by terror. I had forgotten entirely that I could
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  Speaker 2: have asked some questions and made some signs about my
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  Speaker 2: peaceful intent. I didn't realize that time was passing and
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  Speaker 2: I was getting no information by just looking at them.
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, their only objective seemed to be
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  Speaker 2: a study of my body and nothing more. All the
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  Speaker 2: time they stood motionless, just looking at me and talking
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  Speaker 2: to each other at the other side of the table.
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  Speaker 2: So while this next part is not mentioned in Morelio's
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  Speaker 2: first hand testimony in the newspaper, according to researchers Jose
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  Speaker 2: Escobarfaria and Richard Hall, at some point Morelio was given
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  Speaker 2: a small cup of unknown liquid to drink. This, he said,
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  Speaker 2: had the effect of removing him from his quote hypnotic spell.
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  Speaker 2: He says, the door of the craft closed and the
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  Speaker 2: craft took off in silence, and for the next two
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  Speaker 2: hours or so, this craft, he said, flew across the
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  Speaker 2: South American continent and then landed back in the same location.
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  Speaker 2: The ets had not spoken to him during this entire time,
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  Speaker 2: but once again Morelio found himself immobilized and fearful, and
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  Speaker 2: when the ETS did talk, it's not clear if this
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  Speaker 2: was before the trip or after it. Morelio tried to
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  Speaker 2: talk to them, though they did not seem to understand,
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  Speaker 2: and as Morelio says, suddenly, I don't know how or
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  Speaker 2: why I realized I was backing out, dragging my feet backwards,
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  Speaker 2: my eyes still fixed on the small men they made
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  Speaker 2: no attempt to block my way or to seize me.
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  Speaker 2: I came rapidly through the door, jumped to the ground,
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  Speaker 2: and I started to run away as quickly as possible.
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  Speaker 2: When I was at a distance of about ten meters
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  Speaker 2: thirty feet from the ship, I turned my head. Then
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  Speaker 2: I saw the object suspended about ten meters thirty feet
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  Speaker 2: from the ground, having at the end some type of
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  Speaker 2: screw without end. Suddenly, the alien craft climbed up at
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  Speaker 2: high speed. At that moment I observed again the eerie
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  Speaker 2: bluish red or violet light at the periphery of the
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  Speaker 2: strange machine. And that's the end of the experience. Our
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  Speaker 2: researcher Oliveo Tifantes did speak with the colonel Colonel o'dele
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  Speaker 2: do Olivera and asked him what he thought of the case,
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  Speaker 2: but the colonel refused to comment at any length and
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  Speaker 2: said only that it was one of many cases in
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  Speaker 2: the Brazilian Air Force files and that the final verdict
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  Speaker 2: on the case by the Air Force UFO experts was
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  Speaker 2: never released other than it was labeled as quote unknown Now.
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  Speaker 2: Oliveofontes was personally skeptical of the report because many of
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  Speaker 2: the details were identical to the contactee reports of George
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  Speaker 2: Damski and Daniel Frye, which had recently received a lot
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  Speaker 2: of publicity, and he felt this might be more than
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  Speaker 2: mere coincidence. But nevertheless, he called it a quote good
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  Speaker 2: report which he only took seriously because it came directly
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  Speaker 2: from an Air Force colonel. But in further support of
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  Speaker 2: the validity of this case, Mailio was reportedly examined by
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  Speaker 2: several psychiatrists in sou Paolo, who concluded that he showed
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  Speaker 2: no signs of neurosis or psychosis. I do find that
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  Speaker 2: case quite credible, not only because this case was investigated
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  Speaker 2: by the Brazilian military, but they took it absolutely seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Case does have details that turn up again and again
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  Speaker 2: in modern day accounts, and it's a very early case.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that Olivo Tiffantes was a little bit skeptical
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  Speaker 2: because the details described by Marillio were very much echoing
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  Speaker 2: some of the details described by Georgia Dampski and other contactees.
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  Speaker 2: But if you take a close look at what this
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  Speaker 2: witness is describing, his experience was very different from those
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  Speaker 2: described by contactee George Odampsky and others. So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure that that's really a good reason to dismiss it,
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  Speaker 2: and Fontes himself said that he thought this case was
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  Speaker 2: worth reporting, that it was quote a good case. And
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  Speaker 2: again we have to remember that this witness was given
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  Speaker 2: a psychiatric evaluation and found to be perfectly see so
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's a good case. Let's move to
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  Speaker 2: the next one, which I also found super interesting. This,
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  Speaker 2: by the coincidence, also happens to involve a taxi driver.
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  Speaker 2: Want to thank one of my viewers, you know who
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  Speaker 2: you are, for alerting me about this case. So interesting
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  Speaker 2: I call this one. I was so scared. This occurred
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  Speaker 2: one evening in May nineteen sixty six in the small
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  Speaker 2: town of Villa Maria, Argentina, and this is one of
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  Speaker 2: the more extensive cases I've heard in a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: This witness, although he was a child at the time
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  Speaker 2: of his encounter, describes it in incredible detail and had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of experiences on board this craft, and he
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  Speaker 2: estimates he was there for days, even though he was
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  Speaker 2: returned basically only four hours after his encountry have basically
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  Speaker 2: four hours elapsed when he was returned back to his location,
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  Speaker 2: but he feels that the events he experienced took much
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  Speaker 2: longer than that. That's another pattern we see with these
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  Speaker 2: on board cases. But let's just get to this one
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  Speaker 2: because it is interesting for sure. The witness in this case,
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  Speaker 2: as an adult, is a taxi driver by the name
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  Speaker 2: of Girardo Sharf. His childhood life was extremely difficult and
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  Speaker 2: was perhaps the reason for his encounter, which occurred when
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  Speaker 2: he was very young. As Girardo says, when I was
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  Speaker 2: seven years old, my parents kicked me out of the
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  Speaker 2: house and I ended up working in a field at
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  Speaker 2: the end of Buenos Aires Street. Now left to fend
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  Speaker 2: for himself, Girardo was taken in by a dairy farmer
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  Speaker 2: who employed him to work as a cowherd. Didn't really
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  Speaker 2: employ him really, just kind of used him as a slave. Sadly,
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  Speaker 2: Girardo was badly mistreated. He was given very little food.
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  Speaker 2: He was forced to sleep on a mattress made of
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  Speaker 2: burlap sacks. He had to gather the pigs and the
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  Speaker 2: cows in the pre dawn hours. He did use a
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  Speaker 2: horse to roun them up, but he said it was
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  Speaker 2: a miserable life. He received no payments. He was a
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  Speaker 2: horrendously and he lived this way for five years and
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  Speaker 2: as he says it was quote ugly. I'll just quote
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  Speaker 2: him directly, as he says, I had a terrible time.
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  Speaker 2: I cried and prayed to the heavens and the stars
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  Speaker 2: for someone to help me, for someone to come and
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  Speaker 2: help me, because I was living like a dog, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe worse. Everything was bad for me. They punished me.
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  Speaker 2: They made me sleep far from the house. These people
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  Speaker 2: punished me badly. They made me eat alone. I slept
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  Speaker 2: in a little shed. He would beat me up. I
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  Speaker 2: was a slave, so at age twelve, Girardo's prayers to
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  Speaker 2: the heavens were answered not by angels, but by apparent
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  Speaker 2: extraterrestrials or perhaps celestial beings of some kind. He leaves
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  Speaker 2: the interpretation open, but it was about one thirty a m.
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  Speaker 2: One evening in May nineteen sixty six that all of
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  Speaker 2: this happened. At that time, there was a heavy drizzle, and,
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  Speaker 2: as Girardo said, I was preparing the cattle, a white light,
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  Speaker 2: the lights of which I'd never seen before in my life,
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  Speaker 2: filled the field. The whole field lit up, and right
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  Speaker 2: away the cow got up and headed off on their
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  Speaker 2: own towards the milking area. I didn't look up because
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  Speaker 2: I was so scared. Girardo told the owner of the
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  Speaker 2: farm about this, but he did not believe him. The
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  Speaker 2: same thing happened the next night, and the night after that,
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  Speaker 2: and then a fourth time. Was always the same. A
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  Speaker 2: huge bright light appeared overhead, lighting up the ground below,
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  Speaker 2: and in fact, on the fourth occasion, the light was
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  Speaker 2: very bright. Girardo of course told his boss on each
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  Speaker 2: of these occasions, but again he was not believed. It
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  Speaker 2: was about one week later after these incidents when it
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  Speaker 2: happened again, but this time it was very different. As
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  Speaker 2: Girardo says, I began to hear a strange sound and
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  Speaker 2: an even more powerful, more intense light. It's like grabbing
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  Speaker 2: a flashlight and holding.
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  Speaker 1: It really close.
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  Speaker 2: I heard a buzzing sound like when you hit a beehive,
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  Speaker 2: and a spaceship landed in front of me. It was
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  Speaker 2: a flying saucer, approximately twenty meters long by eight meters
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  Speaker 2: wide that's sixty by twenty five feet, and as Girardo
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  Speaker 2: says today, I called them spaceships and flying saucers, but
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  Speaker 2: at the time I didn't know how to describe it.
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  Speaker 1: I was a child who grew.
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  Speaker 2: Up in poverty, who knew only the radio and had
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  Speaker 2: no explanation for it. So immediately Giroro saw a door
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  Speaker 2: open in this craft, spilling out a bright light. A
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  Speaker 2: very tall being appeared in the doorway. Gerardo noticed that
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  Speaker 2: it had four fingers on each hand, and this being
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  Speaker 2: began to speak to him telepathically, and it said, come,
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  Speaker 2: don't be afraid, Girardo said. The voice sounded both masculine
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  Speaker 2: and feminine. Gerroto was riding his horse at this time
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  Speaker 2: and was very frightened by this strange sight, so he
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  Speaker 2: started to kick the horse with his heels to get
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  Speaker 2: her to move away, but the horse would not Budge
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  Speaker 2: heard this voice calling him by name, Girardo, get down
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  Speaker 2: and come here. This did calm him down to some extent,
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  Speaker 2: and he found himself dismounting and approaching the craft, and
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  Speaker 2: this being told him again telepathically, come in now. Girardo
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  Speaker 2: could see a sort of illuminated ladder or staircase. It
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  Speaker 2: looked very unusual. He had trouble describing it, and he
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  Speaker 2: walked up to it to get inside this craft. And
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  Speaker 2: as he says, I was not abducted. I was invited.
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  Speaker 2: I was invited to board the ship. They invited me
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  Speaker 2: to go out for a walk around the universe and
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  Speaker 2: to meet them now. He did describe these beings. He
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  Speaker 2: said that they had very pale skin, dark black eyes,
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  Speaker 2: tiny little nose. Said that they were to quote tall,
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  Speaker 2: very thin, and all white. The head was large compared
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  Speaker 2: to ours. He did say he never saw them blink,
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  Speaker 2: and as Girardo says, upon entering the ship, I saw
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  Speaker 2: two more beings, all seated as if they were ready
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  Speaker 2: to fly. They were in seats which I had never
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  Speaker 2: seen before and would never see again, with buttons on
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  Speaker 2: the arm rest. When I tried to turn around to leave,
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  Speaker 2: there was no door. I stayed very still because I
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  Speaker 2: had no escape. Inside there was a fully illuminated table.
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  Speaker 2: The floor was soft white and fluffy, padded like a carpet.
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  Speaker 2: I can't fully describe what's inside the ship. Everything was
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  Speaker 2: very advanced. They were as advanced as two million years ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Everything they do in the ship is strange. It's very strange,
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  Speaker 2: very very advanced. I don't know how to explain it.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is very nice inside. It's an inexplicable thing. So
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  Speaker 2: he tried to describe it, but had a lot of difficulty.
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  Speaker 2: He said that once he was inside the ship, objects
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  Speaker 2: and furniture and devices seemed to appear when they were
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: needed and then just disappear back into the walls or
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the ceiling. He said pipelike devices came out of the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: ceiling and retracted. He actually didn't see any walls. Instead,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: as he says, it was like everything was like light.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I entered a place of light. He didn't notice there
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: were no hard edges. He said, it looked vast inside,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: almost infinite. Shortly after he entered, they used a device
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: which appeared to levitate him and spin him around a
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: little bit. This was very disorienting for him, and although
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: he was scared, he says the beings were not in
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the least threatening, but in fact very friendly, and one
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: by one they came up and touched his head. They
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: proceeded to show him sort of a hologram of little
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: planets rising out from the surface of this illuminated table.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He also saw what looked to him like TV monitors
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: on a wall. He had never seen TVs at that point.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But they then began to speak with him about many things,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: all telepathically in his mind. He did try to speak
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: verbally at first, but this caused a bad headache and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: his head ache vanished as he started to communicate with
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: them telepathically. As he says, that's how they spoke to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: each other and also to me. They asked me about
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: everything about my life, what I was doing, why I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: was there, and so on. So they asked him all
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: about his job, about how he was being mistreated. In fact,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: they spent quite a long time questioning him on.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Every aspect of his life.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And at this point they took him on a trip
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: into apparently space. He had the impression that they were
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: steering the ship with the power of their minds, he said.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They turned a section of the craft transparent and he
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: could look outside and he saw stars. He saw the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Earth far below him. They showed him what he now
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: believes was the asteroid Belt because as he says, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: saw enormous rocks about the size of a house. They
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: took him to view the Moon and the planet's saturn.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: He recognized the rings later on. At one point they
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: landed on a planet that age with no real education,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he couldn't say where it was. He does remember a
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: brief moment where it was hard for him to breathe,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: but this passed. He saw reddish soil beneath him very fine.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He actually picked a little bit up and let it drop,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and eventually they brought him back inside the craft. Again
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they would turn the side transparent. They showed him other
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: ships what appeared to be an alien city, which he
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: said looked almost like glass or crystal towers with very
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: tall buildings. He said there were different colors, gray, green,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and blue. He saw what looked like bridges between some
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: The beings didn't.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Say anything about where this city was or who lived there.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: But at this point more beings appeared and Gerardo once
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: again became afraid. They of course told him not to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: be afraid, and Gerraro's fear lessened when he was introduced
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to a much shorter being. As Gerardo says, at first,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you're scared because you don't know where you are. You
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're going to do to you. But
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I calmed down when the little one appeared. They always
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: walked with their arms straight and their heads moving. He
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: didn't run away or act violently. As soon as I entered,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: they immediately controlled my mind and I made friends. In
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a way. I gained confidence since I was walking around
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: in a spaceship that had no walls. It was like
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: another dimension. So he remembers at one point suddenly finding
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: himself unclothed and lying on a floating table. He remembered
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: seeing alien instruments, medical instruments of some kind that he
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: had a lot of trouble describing. He remembered being given
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: a physical exam. He says they did something to his arm,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: which left a small scar on his arm. They did
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: show him what he believes was the engine of the craft,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: which again he was not really able to describe in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: detail other than he did touch it instaid it had
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: a very soft texture. They showed him at one point
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: in alcove where skeles were being preserved, and they told
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: him that they, meaning these ets or celestial beings, have
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: a normal life cycle like humans do, but live much longer.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: At some point, Gerardo said they also gave him food
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: of some kind, as he says it was quote through
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: a huge tube similar to a baby bottle that had
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a strawberry flavor. Now he's not sure how long he
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: stayed with them, but he believes it may have been
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: as long as ten days. That's how it felt to him,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: though he does admit he was not aware of ever
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: sleeping or going to the bathroom. At one point, he
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: did remember seeing a symbol near some of the doorways
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: on the craft that resembled, he said, an upside down
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: triangle or pyramid with an L and an upside down U.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: They gave him all kinds of information. They told him
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that they came to Earth to take care of humanity.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: They also shared some prophecies of the future. They told
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: him that Earth's technology would develop very quickly, which turned out,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: of course to be true, with cell phones and TVs
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and rocketry and all of this. They said that the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Vatican contained many hidden secrets and that they were not
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to be trusted, that they were lying. They also warned
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: him about another world war happening. They said that a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: time would come eventually when they would return and show
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: themselves to everybody. So a lot more went on. It's
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a very complicated case. But finally they told him it
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was time to return. This point, Girardo cried. He begged
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: them to let him stay and told him that he
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: was going to be punished if he went back. That
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they told him he had to return, but they did
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: say that they will be with him and will help him,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and as Girardo says, suddenly I disappeared, and I appeared
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: sitting on the horse. I was riding on horseback towards
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the corral, and it was almost daylight now, so he
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: estimates that about four hours passed. The owner of the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: farm confronted him, asked him where he had been. He
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: had been searching for him and couldn't find him, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Doraro told him that he had been on a ship.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: The owner didn't believe it and actually struck him. Soon
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: much of the experience did leave his mind, but the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: good news is his life changed for the better. From
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: that day forward, a mysterious stranger with long blonde hair
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and blue eyes began to visit him regularly and provide
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: him with food. This man would mysteriously disappear. Girod tried
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to see where he was going, but he would just
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: turn around and the man would be gone. The ship
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: came back at one point, and this time the owner
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: also saw it, and this stopped the abuse. Gerrodro was
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: never hit again. Wasn't long after that that he left
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the farm, found another place to live. Of course, grew
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: up and became a taxi driver, but again had little
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: or no memory of all of this experience. Was only
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: at age sixty seven, decades later, that the memories of
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the encounter spontaneously came back to him. He did undergo
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: hypnotic regression to see if he could recall more details.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: He didn't like it. He had to go back to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: his very difficult childhood, which he found to be very traumatic.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: The onboard encounter itself was very much benevolent. To this day,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he wonders about the nature and origin of these beings.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: He says that they called him themselves quote celestial beings.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He speculates that they might be extraterrestrials or even beings
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: from the future, but he does feel that his experience was,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: although scary at times, wholly benevolent. He didn't want to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: leave them, but they said that he had to return
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: to Earth. He now looks upon them as family, as
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: he says, they were friendly. They gave me love that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I needed at that age. All the love they gave me,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: They gave me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: So much love. How about that?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I think we could actually label that case as a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: close in the corner of the fifth kind because this
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: witness was basically calling out for help nightly, praying that
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: someone could help him out of his situation, and he
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: got help, perhaps not from angels, but from ets. Though
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: he leaves open the possibility of who these beings were,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: he's really honestly not sure about it. But a truly
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: amazing case. I love that he was helped so much
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: by the zts that he described him as very much
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: loving that even following this encounter, they remained in contact
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: with him. So it's so interesting to me that the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: details of this case left his mind and he lived
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: most of his life really without any memory of it,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and then suddenly his memory came back spontaneously. So this
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: case is getting a lot of recent attention. I did
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: my best to get the details from this case accurate,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: because most of the reports on this case are in
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: another language. So please excuse me if I got a
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: little bit of it out of order, perhaps because it
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: was difficult to put together. But I think it's a
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: really important and certainly a very fascinating case. And now
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: let's move to the next one. I call this one
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: they were friendly. This one occurred in July of nineteen
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: seventy four in Fairview, New Jersey. This is a multiple
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: witness caseann't a whole lot of details to it. But
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I like this case not only because it's a multiple
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: witness case, but that the witness, the primary witness, was
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: interviewed by a muffan Field investigator. I think that adds
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a level of credibility to it, and she certainly felt
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like this was a legitimate case. And it's got some
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: details to it that I think are really important. This
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: case comes from certified moufan Field investigator and Assistant State
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Director for California, Linda Fleckner. It's a rare multiple witness
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: onboard ufone counter involving three people, although Linda only able
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: to interview one of the witnesses as the other two
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: are now deceased. Unfortunately, the case is also somewhat sparse
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: on details, but it still I think represents a profound
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: example of an on board encounter. I'll call the main
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: witness Quarry that is a pseudonym was a Saturday morning
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: in July of nineteen seventy four, as the witnesses, three
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: teenage boys, decided to go play basketball near a fire station,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: again in Fairview, New Jersey. They had started playing around
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: six am. They continued for about three hours, and then
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: around nine am began to walk home and they were
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: heading towards one of their homes, which was near a park. Now,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: normally this park was crowded with lots of cars and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: anywhere from fifty to one hundred people, but strangely, this
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: area appeared to be totally deserted. That was the first
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: strange thing that happened. But the strangeness was just beginning,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: because at this point they looked up and he saw
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a quote shining silver metallic saucer with round tinted windows.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Corey was the first to see it, and, as the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: investigator Linda Fleckner says, he alerted his two friends, who
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: also saw the craft. He heard and felt a whirring
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and roaring, and his shirt was flapping as if in
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a fifty mile an hour wind, but there was no wind.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: They were paralyzed and could not run. So suddenly, without warning,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Corey found himself inside a large room, which he estimates
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: was about four hundred feet across. This was, of course,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: much larger than the craft had appeared from the outside.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Corey was standing up and about thirty feet away he
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: saw his two friends lying on Quote operating tables. He
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: said there were about twenty five gray type ets in
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: various locations. Each was about four feet tall, he said, grayskin,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: large round heads, and large black eyes. He said, ten
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: or fifteen of the grays were kind of around him,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: but the others were around his two friends, and as Linda,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the researcher says, the creatures were touching him all over.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: They were speaking telepathically and were surprised when they realized
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that he could hear them. His impression was that they
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: were friendly and curious and meant no harm. He believed
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that they were trying to help his two friends, who
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: both had heart problems, and he believes that their lives
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: may have been extended by the aid rendered on the craft.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: He remembers looking out the window and down onto the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: basketball court where they had been playing. He could see
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: other beings moving about in long corridors, and that's really
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: all he remembers. The next thing Corey recalls as being
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: back where they had been taken and then watching this
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: craft ascend up into the sky, as Linda says, moved
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: up and to the right, then left, then up and away,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: leaving behind a rainbow colored trail Behind the next thing,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Corey knew they were arriving back at his friend's house Now,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: neither of his two friends had any memory whatsoever of
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: being on board the ship. All they could remember was
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: seeing the craft from the outside. They had no memory
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of walking home. Only Corey remembered the onboard segment.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Upon arriving home, Corey's mother looked at him and immediately
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: noticed that he quote seemed changed. Corey told his mother,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: it's no big deal, mom, But he never spoke about
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the incident to her, or really to anyone. He did,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: of course, later confide his story to researcher Linda Fleckner
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that his mother once told him that there was psychicability
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: in their family, and he wondered if perhaps that was
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: why he was able to hear the being speak telepathically.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he kept his encounter secret for decades because,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: as Linda says, he did not believe that anyone would
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: believe him. But of course he did eventually tell his
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: two daughters, and in twenty twenty three, a full forty
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: nine years after the encounter, he reported it to Move
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: On and shared his story with investigator Linda Fleckner. Such
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: an amazing case. And even though I covered it in
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: what ten minutes or so, I suspect the witness could
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: write a whole book about what happened to him. Most
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: people keep quiet about this. I think it's really interesting
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that it was his impression that his friends were being
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: brought on board to assist with their heart issues. We
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: do see that in a number of cases. Also interesting
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to me is that the witness's mother talks about psychic
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: ability to another pattern we see among contactees that they
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: do have psychic ability. Just a lot of interesting details
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to that case. And here's another one that I found
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: particularly fascinating. I'm guessing you haven't heard of it before.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's an important case though, because Wow, this one's a
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: little different. I call this one they only wanted to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: help me. This occurred on February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty four,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: in Guildford, England, and this is an interesting case for
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a number of reasons. One is that it appears to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: be a one off. This witness was in the right
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: place at the right time to have an encounter, or
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: so it would appear. This very interesting case comes from
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: UFO researcher Captain Gordon Millington. He was the chairman of SYGAP,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the Surrey Investigative Group on Aerial phenomena. This is in
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: England and he was also a consultant for The Flying
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Saucer Review. He's the author of the book Alien Encounters,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and the information for this case comes from an article
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: which appeared in the Winter nineteen ninety four issue of
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: The Flying Saucer Review. The witness is known only by
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: his pseudonym Tom Fraser. At the time of his encounter,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: he was living with his parents in Farnham, Surrey, England.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: He was seventeen years old and was around eight p
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: 'm on February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty four. This was
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a dark night. There were low clouds a gentle drizzle,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: so no stars were visible, and Tom was driving his
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: motorcycle near the town of Guildford. And this is when
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: tragedy struck. As Tom says, I was involved in a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: road accident. A car struck me and I was thrown
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: off my motorbike. I was unconscious before I hit the ground,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: but my last clear memory was of a bright light
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: in the sky to my right. Now. Tom assumed that
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: he would wake up in a hospital, but to his amazement,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that was not what happened. Instead, he found himself inside
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: what appeared to be an extraterrestrial craft. As Tom says,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I came too. I could see a bright light about me,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and as my eyes focussed, I saw three beings looking
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: at me. The first thing I remember about them is
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: their oversized, hairless heads. They were quite pale complexioned with
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: a sort of off white light gray pigmentation. Their eyes,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: though quite similar to human eyes.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Were tilted up slightly.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: The pupils were diamond shaped and at about a forty
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: five degree angle. There were about four to four and
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a half feet in height, and I was lying on
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a sort of a bed. I could see another like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: it to the left of me in the room, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: there was a body on it, motionless and apparently unconscious.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But the strange thing is that it looked remarkably like myself.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I have the impression that there were only two of
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: these beds in my room. There was a raised control
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: panel in the center of the room, and someone standing
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: at this could look at both the beds. The beings
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: were standing behind this control console, and one appeared to
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: be operating it, with the two others standing behind him.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I have the impression of a leader and helper's situation
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in this room. So it looked to Tom, like the
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: man on the other bed that looked like himself was
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: actually deceased. At this point, the beings began to communicate
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: telepathically with Tom. As Tom says, I could hear words
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: saying that they were going to heal me and then
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I should not worry, But their mouths were not moving.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I now believed that these beings were communicating telepathically. I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: could sense no malice or hostility from them, and felt
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: that they only wanted to help me. I laid my
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: head back and fell asleep. So an undetermined amount of
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: time later, Tom reawakened. As he says, when I awoke,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I was told that my injuries had been extensive, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that they had been able to cure them. They also
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: said I was lucky that they had been observing the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: area that they were able to help me. I was
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: told I would feel tired for a while and that
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I should rest. Then I fell asleep again. When I reawakened,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I saw that the other body had been removed, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I saw no other humans aboard the craft. On myself
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: dressed in some clothing similar to that of the beings themselves.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: It had a metallic shechine to it. And was grayish
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: in color, but there were no buttons or zippers. Perhaps
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: it had some sort of veltro seams. So Tom also
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: remembers getting a good look at the interior of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: craft and describes it in similar ways to what other
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: contactees report as Tom says, the corridors had no form
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of lighting such as we would use for the walls
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: in the ceiling emitted light, and there were no shadows.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I also have an impression of another room with a
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: control bridge with one or two entrances. One being was
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: working at a raised panel while two others operated some controls.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: There was a display panel on one wall. I also
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: have vague memories of what I think was some sort
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of maintenance or docking bay, a large area with two
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: or three craft in it. So Tom does feel that
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: his encounter was totally benevolent and that the purpose for
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: his encounter was all about healing. He says, at no
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: time do my memories indicate any hostile act, maltreatment, or
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: any intention of acting harmfully towards me. One very strong
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: impression I retain is of the leader asking for my
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: help in something I agreed to help, But I do
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: not now know what I agreed to. One of them
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: said that they would have to break my arm, as
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: it would look too strange if I walked away with
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: no injuries after being hit head on by a car
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and thrown off my motorbike into some trees. I agreed
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to all of this, so following the accident, time was
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: taken directly to EPSOM Hospital, just a few miles away
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: from the accident site. His injuries included a severe fracture
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of the upper third of the right humorists and some
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: nerve damage. Later, he dig get a severe infection which
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: resulted in the loss of most of his right elbow,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: he said, but it was about five or six hours
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: after the crash that he regained full consciousness in his
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: life hospital room, and he is now convinced that the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: ets not only healed him, but that they saved his life.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: As Tom says, the staff were puzzled that I had
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: only a broken arm, as my motorbike was very severely damaged.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I believe I should have died in that accident, but
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: for some unknown reason I did not. How amazing is
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that I know of a number of cases where people
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: were rescued by ets certainly healed. That's not at all unusual,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But to actually have your life saved is definitely unusual.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: But I will say I've got a number of cases
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: of that as well. It's also an interesting case because
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: he remembers it fully consciously. In fact, we see that
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: in all of these cases, these people recalled their events
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: without the aid of hypnosis. Although one of them did
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: use hypnosis to recall some details, he already remembered quite
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: a bit of it. I think that's an important point,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of an important distinction, because it really lays to rest
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: all skeptics arguments that this is all false memory syndrome
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: brought out by regressive hypnosis. That's simply not true. And
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: this case is so amazing to me because this witness
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: again appeared to be in the right place at the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: right time, and he was very lucky to be pulled
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: on board and have his life saved. So interesting. Now,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: let's move to the next case. I call this one
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: We're just curious. This one occurred on October thirteen, nineteen
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: ninety four, in Buffalo, New York. This case is in
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: many ways your sort of typical onboard experience where the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: witness is physically examined, but she describes it so sincerely
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and so clearly that I think it's an important case
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: that definitely adds to our knowledge of what it's like
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: to have an onboard UFO encounter. This case is somewhat brief,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and it was reported to the mutual U Phone Network
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: move On by the witness about thirty years after it occurred,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: but it's still an interesting case with some important details,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and it really shows how profoundly an onward experience can
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: affect a person physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. The witness
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: is anonymous I'll call her Natalie. This is of course
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: a pseudonym. At the time of her encounter, Natalie was
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: a freshman in college and she was living in a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: dorm room in Buffalo, New York. This was on October thirteenth,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, and as Natalie says in her own words,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I was asleep when I started to feel a pulling,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a strong suction on my body. As it was pulling me,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I did not feel as if I could resist or move.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I was almost frozen, but without pain, just the pressure
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of the suction. And then I had the sense that
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I was being pulled out of the room, out of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: my dorm room window. Then I woke up in a
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: different place. When I came to, I woke up again,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I was on a metal table surrounded by beings, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: not human beings.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I was on some.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Sort of examining table and they were all around me.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many, but approximately six or seven.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: They were smaller than humans, with bigger eyes, black eyes,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: and dark gray bodies, almost the color of shark skin.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: The most vivid memories from this experience involved being on
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: that table, feeling the metal, and feeling that I could
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: not leave or move. I was terrified and my communications
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: with them because the message or communication was very clear
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and warm and friendly, but they did not use English words.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: They talked to me without words, almost as if they
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: placed the information in my brain with their minds. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: what they said was don't be scared, we won't hurt you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: We're just curious. And then my body felt calm, but
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: it seemed like it came from them, as if they
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: did something to calm me. I don't know how to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: explain it, and I lost time again and I woke
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: up in my dorm room, in my bed. Now, these
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: beings do appear to be the typical grays. And at
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: first Natalie told nobody what happened, but it was less
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: than a week after the encounter that she did discover
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a strange mark on her body, and this encouraged her
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to seek another opinion. As Natalie says, I noticed a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: weird mark on my top right butt cheek. It looked
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: like and still looks like this today, like someone took
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a scoop of skin out of my body. The weirdest
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: part is that it didn't hurt, and it didn't bleed
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: her bruise. It was just there all of a sudden.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I told my mom about it, and she is actually
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the first person who suggested it was an abduction. The
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: weirdest part is that I had not even told her
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: about the other part of the story where I was
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: sucked out of the room and placed on that metal
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: table before I told her any of that. She told
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: me that she had read a book about UFOs and
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: there were people that had tissue taken that the marks
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: that were left on their bodies looked like the mark
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: on my body. So ultimately, Natalie does feel that this
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: experience was positive, but nevertheless, it is something that she
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: keeps secret from almost everyone. As she says, I've never
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: formally reported this to anyone. I've only shared it with
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: very close friends, my mother, and a doctor due to
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: the unexplained skin and tissue removal. I think about this
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: experience from time to time, but always with fondness because
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: they the extraterrestrials seemed like kind beings and tried.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: To call me.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I don't talk about it very often because the few
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: times that I have talked about it with people that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: are not close trusted friends, like once in art school,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: was not a great experience and people remarked that I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: was making it up or doing it for attention. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the truth is that it's a lonely thing to experience
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: something so unreal, something you cannot explain, and not have
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: anyone to talk to about it. Case after case again,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you can dismiss one, but there's always another to take
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: its place. It's really interesting to me that this witness
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: feels that this experience was, although scary, absolutely benevolent and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: really the hardest part about dealing with it has been
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: trying to share the experience with other people who are skeptical.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: That's such a shame. There's still a hostile climate surrounding
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: this subject. Witnesses who come forward find themselves not only
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: being disbelieved, but ridiculed or gas lit. That was really
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: a darn shame, because I think our own governments know
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that this is a real subject, and very disingenuously they're
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: putting forth the idea that all of these experiences can
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: be explained away is hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions and mental illness,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: all the while knowing fully that it's completely real subject.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I think all of us have become victims of the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: UFO cover up, and it's time that it ends, because
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: this is a subject that's very important and should absolutely
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: be taken seriously, if only because so many people are
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: having experiences like this. And here's another one which I
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: call I was extremely scared. This one occurred on June sixteenth,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: two thousand and two, in Blanchard, Oklahoma. It's relatively recent.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Some of you say, oh, where are all the recent cases. Oh,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: they're there, and you can see that I report them
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: in many of my episodes. This is a case that
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: does involve multiple witnesses, and you can see that the
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: title of this one is absolutely accurate because the witnesses
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: did have quite a bit of fear with their encounter
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and it affected them profoundly for a very long time
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: and probably still.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: To this day.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: This case does involve two witnesses, but only one has
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: stepped forward. The winness is anonymous. I'll just call him
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Ethan again. That's a pseudonym. His experiences have not been
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: officially investigated, but he does provide his first hand testimony.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: He was nine years old at the time of his encounter.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: He was having a family get together at his grandmother's house,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: located just off Highways seventy eight in the countryside outside
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: of Blanchard, Oklahoma. Her house had a long driveway, was
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: a large piece of property with lots of trees, almost
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: no houses around, and had many of wide open areas
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and a pond. So after eating and talking and playing,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Ethan and his cousin announced that they were going to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: take a walk to the pond. At this point, it
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: was nine forty five pm on June sixteen, two thousand
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: and two, so they left the house and walked about
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: one hundred feet from the house, and this is when
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: things began to get weird. As Ethan says, we both
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: started to feel vibration in our body, but didn't think
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Of it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: We walked maybe fifteen more feet and we were completely blind.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: We both saw nothing but black. We backed up and
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: we could see normally again. It was dark outside, but
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: not pitch black. You could still see some We looked
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: at each other and said that's weird and blew it off.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: We kept walking five to ten more feet and it
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: goes pitch black. Now at this point they can't see,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: but they both heard a swashing noise, as if something
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: was moving at super fast speeds. Their vision immediately returned
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and they could now see a quote huge disc shaped
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: craft and as Ethan, the witness says, it was black
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: with a chrome like finish, and I want to say
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: windows around it with every color you could think of
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: coming from inside the craft. It was moving north northeast
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: to the right of us. We were walking east. It
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: hovered approximately fifteen feet away at tree height for thirty seconds,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and then descended to an open area of trees and landed.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: At this point, we were extremely terrified. We couldn't move.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: We felt locked in place, and having our thoughts scanned,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: a door opened up, popping out from the top and
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: periodically turning inside itself until it touched the ground. Now,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: At this point, some strange beings emerged from the craft.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: As Ethan says, three beings with big heads and huge
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: eyes stepped out and walked up to me. They looked
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: like what most people call grays. The next thing I know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I'm inside the craft on a table with the three
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: beings looking at me. There was a human looking being
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: standing to my right side. I'm not sure if it
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: was human or not. Ethan was also able to get
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a good look at the room he was in. There
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: wasn't much to it, as he says, The walls looked metallic,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: but also looked like if you touched them you would
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: fall through. There wasn't much in the room besides, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: want to say, a bathtub looking thing with black goo
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: looking stuff inside it. Now, the next thing Ethan knew
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: he was being physically examined. As he says, while I'm
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: lying on the table, the grays stared at me, getting
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: inches from my face. I blacked out, And the next
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: thing I know, I'm looking up at the sky at
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it hovering tree height was like I went back in
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: time or something. I was extremely scared. Me and my
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: cousin ran frantically back to the back door, running into
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the house. This took what we thought was in one
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: minute or one minute and a half. As we ran in,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: our family were worried, asking us where we have been,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: saying that they were looking for us for an hour
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and a half. So that was shocking because it did
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: not seem that long to them. But it was then
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that Ethan and his cousin noticed some alarming physiological effects.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: As Ethan says, I had scars on me and I
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: was bleeding down my arm in my head. My cousin
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: had bruises and was bleeding on his knee. We never
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: told them what we had encountered. Now. Ethan does say
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that this encounter was the first of several, the most
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: recent being on July twenty sixth, twenty fifteen, which he
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: said was a very moving encounter, but he does not
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: provide any details. He says he reported this childhood encounter because,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: as he says, I need some support or help. Like
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: many people who have these experiences, it has taken somewhat
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of an emotional toll on him, as he says, this
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: is really making me feel out of place here on earth.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I would like to tell my other encounters, but I
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: need reassurance that this isn't going to cause me to
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: lose my life. My heart goes out to this witness.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: You can see he's still having a very hard time
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: dealing with this, but I think it's an important case.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: He describes what it's like inside a craft, and it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: interesting to me because often people will see rooms that
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: are very much sparse, there's not a whole lot in
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and this is exactly what he's reporting or feeling like.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: The walls are different. It's just so fascinating to me
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: how these details turn up again and again from cases
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: that are widely separated in time and geographically. All these
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: incredible commonalities and similarities I think argue for the credibility.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Of these cases.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: These are details that you couldn't just make up, and
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: people are describing them over and over again. So now
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: let's move to the final case in this compilation. I
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: call this one it got extremely bizarre. This one occurred
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: one evening in mid October of twenty ten in Harleysville, Pennsylvania,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of fascinating aspects to this encounter.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: For me, one of the most interesting was how this
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: witness described what we call the oz effect, an eerie
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: silence surrounding a witness when they suddenly have an experienced
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: life like this, and he described an incredible detail I think,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: really illustrating what it's like right prior to being taken
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: on board, but also described the interior of his craft
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and all the things that happened to him. It's a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: fascinating case. This case is also a single witness case.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: The witness is anonymous. I'll call him Frank. That's a pseudonym.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: At the time of his encounter, Frank was nineteen years old,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: almost twenty and he lived in a house located in Harleysville, Pennsylvania.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: The house used to be an old office building and
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Frank's bedroom had a fire escape exit, complete with a
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: metal platform railing and metal stairs leading down to the ground,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and Frank would often use the fire escape when he
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to smoke a cigarette, as his landlord forbade any
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: smoking in the house. Now, the door to this fire
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: escape had an old fashioned pushbar with no doorknob on
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the outside, so if he went out there, he had
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: to prop the door open or he would be locked
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: out side. This is an important detail given what happened next.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: With one evening in mid October twenty ten, He stayed
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: up late playing video games, and around one a m.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Went to sleep, dressed only in his boxers. He was
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: tired and fell asleep quickly, and the next thing he knew,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Frank woke up suddenly to find himself standing outside his
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: bedroom on this metal railing of the fire escape. He
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: was very groggy, somewhat confused, and he started looking around
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to orient himself because he had no memory of how
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: he had gone outside, and furthermore, the door leading back
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: into his bedroom was now closed, leaving him locked outside.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: He considered the possibility that he had been sleepwalking, like
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: he used to when he was a young kid, but
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: that hadn't happened since he was eight years old, and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: now he was totally awake, and as Frank says, I
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: almost immediately noticed something very very large above me. After
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: this initial confusion, I felt the urge to look up
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: at this large object hovering above me. I noticed it
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: was sort of rounded in shape, but had many many
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: lights on the underside of it. It was directly above me,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: so I had no view of the sides of the object.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: The lights were a very very bright white, nothing like
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: any fluorescent bulb I have ever seen. These lights were
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: flashing with all any pattern, it seemed, and were located
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: all over the underside of the object in rectangular and
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: trapezoidal shapes. Now, this object, he estimates, was at least
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty feet in diameter, possibly larger. The
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: bottom had what looked like weird protrusions that they were
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: very hard to make out or identify, as the lights
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: were so blindingly bright that he had to actually shield
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: his eyes. The surface looked like a very dark gray
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: black color. Another thing he noticed was that the object
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: made absolutely no sound. But it was more than that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: The area around him was also arly silent, and as
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Frank says, it was as if it the object was
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: making everything around it completely quiet. There were no sounds
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: made after I noticed the object above me. This was
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: extremely strange since my home is on a main road
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: and relatively close to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Hearing not even
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: the sound of a cricket chirp or the hum of
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the highway was definitely weird. The silence was almost suffocating.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: It felt very heavy, as if it were making the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: air thick like soup. There was no wind. It was
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: as if time had stopped in its tracks, so Frank
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: estimates that this craft was hovering maybe twenty to forty
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: feet overhead, and was so large that it stretched out
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: over the tree next to his house and out over
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the neighbor's roof, so that he could really only see
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a portion of it. And as Frank says, I observed
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: all of this within less than ninety seconds before I
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: became very disoriented. I forgot what I was doing, where
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I was, and who I was. Was almost as if
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: these lights were inducing an acute case of amnesia. The
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: last thing I can remember before passing out was the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: strange sensation of floating. I had never experienced this before,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: but it was as if I were suddenly weightless. My
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: feet were no longer touching the cold metal platform, and
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I was no longer shielding my eyes. As soon as
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I was blinded by the flashing lights, I seemed to
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: lose consciousness, unless the lights caused me to forget everything,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: leaving me with no memory of anything afterwards. Now, the
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: next thing Frank knew he was waking up someplace else.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: As he says, after I lost consciousness, it got extremely bizarre.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I remember waking up without any senses except for my
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: sight and sense of balance. I was lying down with
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: my eyes looking upwards towards what seemed to be a ceiling.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: My eyes were not working correctly, though. It was as
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: if I had been administered eye drops that you would
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: get at the doctor's to dilate your pupils. Everything was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: very blurry and distorted. I remember very little, but I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: do remember everything was a green brown gray color around me.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I also remember seeing strange objects above me that appeared
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: to be tools or examination equipment, none of which seemed
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: to be created by humans. Was very blurry, though, so
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: it was hard to tell if that was exactly what
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: it was. I then remember a figure moved into view
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: above me. I was unable to move it all. My
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: vision was very poor, so I could discern nothing about
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: this being other than it seemed a little taller than
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I am, and it had appendages like a human being, arms, torso, head, legs,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Now was at this point that the being
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: began to communicate with Frank telepathically. As Frank says, it
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: did not speak to me, however, I seemed to hear
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: a voice in my head, much less a voice than
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: it was a feeling or emotion being conveyed. The very
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: last thing I can remember was feeling very calm, as
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: if this being was trying to help me in some
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: sort of way. The trying to help you feeling was
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: much less about me in particular, but more of a you,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: as in your race. I then saw one of the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: objects above me move slightly, and I lost consciousness again.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: The next thing Frank knew he was back in his bedroom,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: As he says, when I came to, I was sitting
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: on the edge of my bed. My bed was made
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: very neatly, as if I had never laid down at
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: all that night. When I looked at my alarm clock,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: the time was about four or forty five a m.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I tried to remember how I got there, but nothing
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: came to mind. I tried to sleep, but my thoughts
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: were buzzing faster than I could even keep up with.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I could not sleep that night, no matter how hard
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I tried. The only thing I kept asking myself was
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: why wasn't I scared? They're afraid throughout this entire experience.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: So this encounter left Frank with more questions than answers,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: but to this day he still thinks about it. As
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Frank says, I always thought the UFO phenomenon was a
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: bunch of crap before this experience. Since this experience, I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: have been haunted and have wanted to tell somebody, but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I've always been too afraid of being called a crackpot.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: The only person I ever told this story to is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: my best friend, and he's probably the only person who
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: will ever know who I am and what I witnessed.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I am not trying to garner attention in any way,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: shape or form. This is why I am choosing to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: remain anonymous. I just hope that maybe this can help
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: somebody understand things a little better, even if I cannot
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: understand any of this myself. There you go, another onboard encounter.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: It's funny to me that skeptics will say, oh, people
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: are just trying to get attention.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: No, they're not.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: They don't want attention, and they almost always request anonymity,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: particularly when it's an on board UFONE counter. These are
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: people who are just searching for answers, people who hadn't
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: experienced that they know is important and feel that people
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: deserve to know the truth about it. They're not asking
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: for money or fame, exactly the opposite. So any arguments
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: that people are just seeking attention, is ridiculous, they're not.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: So there you go seven cases of people who have
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: been taken on board a craft, coming from all over
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the world, all different kinds of people, different types of ets,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: and yet the commonalities with all of these experiences I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: think argue for their credibility. And as we see, each
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: case has their own unique elements, little details that perhaps
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: have never been heard before or are only rarely reported.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: This is why each case is important. Each adds to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: our knowledge of who these visitors are, where they come from,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: why they're here, and most importantly, turn like I said
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: in the beginning, the unknown into the known. I think
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: it's the fear of the unknown that is largely the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: cause of all the confusion and fear surrounding this subject.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Once we know what to expect, it's not as scary,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: at least I hope so. At any rate, I think
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: that these on board cases show pretty clearly that they're
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: not here to hurt, harm, scary, or take over or
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: anything like that. While it can be very scary, as
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: we've seen in this compilation here, some of these people
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: are apparently being healed, So I think that argues for
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: the benevolence of the ETS, and remember they've been around
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: here since recorded history and very likely a lot longer
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: than that. I think that's an important detail. So I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: just don't buy our government's fear based narrative that they're
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: coming here to take over or hurt anybody or anything
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: like that. I do know people who have had what
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: they feel is an absolutely negative encounter, and it's their encounter,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: so they absolutely have the right to interpret it the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: way they want. But having interviewed one hundred of people
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: and having exempt case after case after case, I'm very
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: encouraged about ET contact and I think it's good news
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: for humanity. But again, I'm just reporting the cases in
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: a factual, unbiased way. I'm trying to choose cases that
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I think are lesser known cases that are well vetted,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: cases that have something to add to our knowledge of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: what's going on here. And again, you can make up
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: your own mind about it. But I do thank you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: for watching. I truly appreciate it. Again, this is a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: very important subject and I think it deserves a lot
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: more attention than it's getting. So thank you, and keep
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: asking those hard questions, keep searching for the truth, and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: most import of all, keep having fun. I'll see you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: next week. Bye for now.