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Patriots Unfiltered 4/6: Patriots Hall of Fame Candidates, Top WR Prospects Visit with Patriots · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. The world's
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  Speaker 1: a legion, poet, Welcome to Patriot It's unfiltered. You know
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  Speaker 1: how other teams are just kind of reveling in this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like finally you know the you know we're getting
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  Speaker 1: they're getting their come uppings. You know, every once against us, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: I forget that. But I know you're irrelevant and I
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  Speaker 1: do not have the highest regard from Mike Florio, as
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  Speaker 1: you know. Terry Bradshaw's still alive. By the way, Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbo's ad fenoy last night with the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Guess where he's not coming here, He's already here, Like
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  Speaker 1: you don't even need to pay for the flight. So
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  Speaker 1: he called coaches that he's worked with in the past
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  Speaker 1: that he trusts, and that's a problem. But think about Bill,
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  Speaker 1: think about it. I'm done thinking about I know, but
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  Speaker 1: but think du said what I am trying to say
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  Speaker 1: in a much nicer way because I'm just fed up
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  Speaker 1: with this bs in Smith the Jing perfect Like there's
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  Speaker 1: a million cars I can't afford, right, because you if
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  Speaker 1: I'm Mac and I play great this year. I tell
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  Speaker 1: the team to go pounce in. Yeah. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,
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  Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome in too, Patriots unfilter.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very special show for you today, ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen. As our two dads are away, Paul and
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  Speaker 1: Fred are at the very important Hall of Fame meeting,
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  Speaker 1: not the Pro Football Hall prestigious, the Patriots Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: So they're over there to catered lunch right now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure getting to talk about former Patriots greats to decide
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  Speaker 1: who will be on the ballot for the fans to
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  Speaker 1: go in next So, unfortunately for you guys, that means
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  Speaker 1: you're stuck with I can't call us the kids. I'm
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  Speaker 1: way too old to be a kid. Do some the kids?
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  Speaker 1: All right? I like when to go to Thanksgiving and
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  Speaker 1: you get stuck at the kids table, That's all right.
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  Speaker 1: I like the kids table. I like all you guys.
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  Speaker 1: So who knows that Confers and French Fries coming uncle?
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  Speaker 1: That is the cool uncles Hannon at the adult table.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna probably spark some controversies. So, but you're young
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  Speaker 1: and uhip enough to get relegated to the kids. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. I just hope I don't spark any controversy
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  Speaker 1: here today. Nothing could be worse than what we just heard.
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  Speaker 1: And like entroing the show, like I told you so,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my cool. I'm gonna keep my cool today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, not gonna let it get
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  Speaker 1: to me. Now, we're definitely gonna get to have it
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  Speaker 1: get to him absolutely well. According to Evan's Twitter this morning,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the Patriots if they show this much interest
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  Speaker 1: in day Flowers and don't pick him, like he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be very upset. Yeah, I'm gonna be crushed. I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing breathing exercises like our quarterback, preparing myself for
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  Speaker 1: the first round of the draft because preparing to trade out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to lose lose it on the draft
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  Speaker 1: show when when they take be Jean Robinson in the
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  Speaker 1: first round. So I've been I've been working on finding
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  Speaker 1: my center and staying calm. I got a good video
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  Speaker 1: idea of if they don't draft day Flowers. It's just
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  Speaker 1: Evan kind of walking down the street and he just sees,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some beautiful bring flowers and just not to
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  Speaker 1: kill just start running through the whole thing and with
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  Speaker 1: the machette or something. But who knows. You know, Evan
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  Speaker 1: does have recency bias. Maybe there's still some time for
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  Speaker 1: him to, you know, flip on that situation and he might.
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  Speaker 1: By the bye then he might be on right. So
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you because some people ask me this, so like,
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  Speaker 1: when's the moment that you fell in love with a Flowers?
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it was romantic music there man.
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  Speaker 1: It was at the Shrine Bowl And we were talking
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  Speaker 1: to him the day before practices started and I did
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  Speaker 1: that that feature on him for Patriots dot Com and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, are you gonna practice this week? And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, Uh my dad, who
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  Speaker 1: I think is a big part of his football life.
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  Speaker 1: It said, you know, telling my agent are telling me
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  Speaker 1: not to because I don't need to practice. I have
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  Speaker 1: nothing to prove. But I'm getting sick and tired of
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  Speaker 1: hearing people say I'm not that good and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna go out there and practice anyways. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my godness, yeah, I love the story also about
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  Speaker 1: his dad, but when he could have transferred from BC
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  Speaker 1: to USC right just and the Nil Money was calling
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  Speaker 1: and his dad was like, they're the only ones who
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  Speaker 1: wanted you when no one wants That's what he Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he talked a little bit about dad, and he mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that exact story, and I looked into it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, and they actually offered Jordan Addison and Zay
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  Speaker 1: Flowers and Nil Deal to come play at USC for
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  Speaker 1: a season, and Addison obviously took the bag and Flowers didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's like a bad knock on Addison necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a he's a really faithful guy. And he
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  Speaker 1: committed to the Shrine Bowl early on in the process,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Senior Bowl came calling and he said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm already going to the Shrine even though he probably
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  Speaker 1: belonged at the Senior Bowl. He stuck with the people
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  Speaker 1: at the Shrine Bowl too, So he's a very consistent
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  Speaker 1: dude in that dad. If you're wondering why we're right
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  Speaker 1: on Zay Flowers, there was a tweet this morning from
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  Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero who said that yes, today, Flowers landed at
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  Speaker 1: like six am off a red eye, came right here
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  Speaker 1: and jumped into the fire with Bill O'Brien and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, learning the offense, which you know, Evan and
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  Speaker 1: I were saying, he's probably got a foundation in it
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  Speaker 1: that he got out at the Shrine Bowl. And and
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  Speaker 1: this is probably like quiz time, which I'm sure we've
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  Speaker 1: all taken Red Eyes and you certainly have getting off. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well that and that which was like I was leaning
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  Speaker 1: into it. I'm like, I know, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: a mess. I'm no, I gonna say all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: wrong things. I think I dropped. Hopefully Zay Flowers didn't. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he probably did with Billy. Oh, probably a good thing
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  Speaker 1: for him. But there's just no question. He's a local kid.
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  Speaker 1: He's what they need. He's an exciting playmaker, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: every time you talk about him, it's it's the energy
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  Speaker 1: around the team right now. And all the Max stuff
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into a little bit, but there was one
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  Speaker 1: guy that they could select a fourteenth overall that would
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden maybe reinvigorate people and get them
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  Speaker 1: kind of on board with all right, let's see what
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  Speaker 1: Max got with this. And uh, at one other point
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  Speaker 1: I would make too, like in Max, like Mac did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Mac won the National Championship, still went
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  Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and practiced and show, you know,
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  Speaker 1: throw it two different pro days. That was you know,
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  Speaker 1: the COVID year when they didn't have the combine. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: I love that stuff from Zay Flowers. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anybody can say you wouldn't be thrilled about that pick,
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  Speaker 1: because anybody gonna call in. I mean, I hope. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there's somebody out there, one of our listeners that
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be thrilled. But what a pick. And the Boston
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  Speaker 1: College local thing that I wonder if they work out together.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything about it, but they just put
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  Speaker 1: up that new field house, great place for Mac to
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  Speaker 1: go throw and great great option for him to throw
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  Speaker 1: too up at BC in Chestnut Hill, the Heights. I
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  Speaker 1: just I think, and I speak for all Patriots fans
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  Speaker 1: when I when I say this, I hope is that
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  Speaker 1: aren't you just sick of them passing on these star
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  Speaker 1: receivers in the draft and then watching Justin Jefferson just
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  Speaker 1: go off in Minnesota or DK Metcalf with the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: or Debo with the Night Like, aren't you, as Patriots fans,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta just be tired of you know, they brought A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown in for a visit. They're showing interest in top
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  Speaker 1: receivers and then we know what happens, and I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like, at some point, you gotta you gotta just
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  Speaker 1: take one of these guys. And wasa They've been on
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  Speaker 1: him since the Shrine Bowl. They worked with him there,
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  Speaker 1: and now they're bringing him in for this visit, Like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you wasting this much time with a guy
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  Speaker 1: that you're not interested in and you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: take It just doesn't make sense. I also like that
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  Speaker 1: he's a star, but he also has like a great
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  Speaker 1: like great character and a great personality in the sense
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  Speaker 1: of like he's not a huge like Devo or going
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  Speaker 1: to be a problem for you, or at least we
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  Speaker 1: hope not. I think that he carries himself like very
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  Speaker 1: well loyal to people who believed in him, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's always a good trait. I don't think he'll
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  Speaker 1: be a problem off the field. I think he's challenges
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the coaches and stuff at BC, And
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  Speaker 1: I was out there pro day just said he's the
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  Speaker 1: same guy that he was when he walked on the
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  Speaker 1: campus four years ago, you know, And he's had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of buzz and hype about him as especially now
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  Speaker 1: in the draft, and he's just kind of hasn't changed.
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  Speaker 1: And you look at like his quarterback play too. At BC,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit on the draft pods,
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  Speaker 1: like he's catching he's five foot nine, but he's making
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  Speaker 1: all these acrobatic catches because his quarterbacks weren't so great
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  Speaker 1: and he's still plucking the ball and bringing it in
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just I can't understand it,
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  Speaker 1: Like how do you just how do you get this
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  Speaker 1: much knowledge and this much information and don't do this
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  Speaker 1: much homework on a player like that and then come
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  Speaker 1: draft night, I'm pretty mad about something they haven't done yet.
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  Speaker 1: I get that, but come draft night you just go yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: no thanks, Like I just can't see that. Yeah, unless
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  Speaker 1: he totally blew it yesterday and was like I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember. I also think that too, like, um,
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  Speaker 1: there's not as much fear with drafting a wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: in the first round and potentially not being able to
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  Speaker 1: develop him. I feel like Zay will do everything in
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  Speaker 1: his power to make sure like he continues to see
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  Speaker 1: it better. Yeah, Whereas I don't know what happened with Nikkilhary.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to know what happened there, um,
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  Speaker 1: but I think before I was kind of like fearful
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  Speaker 1: of if we draft a first round wide receiver and
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  Speaker 1: are not able to develop him and it doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: out like nikkil Harry. Yeah, it's kind of scary. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think Nikkil Harry had you know, issues coming in,
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  Speaker 1: but I would say I think part of the problem
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  Speaker 1: for him was that he got hurt, like almost right
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  Speaker 1: away in camp and then he missed all that time.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just especially for any rookie in
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  Speaker 1: any system, you just get behind that eight ball, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe here specifically, once you're behind, it's even harder to
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  Speaker 1: kind of catch up. And you know, when when Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady was here to you know, earn his trust, those
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  Speaker 1: kind of things. But it would be a great sign,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think for Mac too. I think Mac
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  Speaker 1: would would love it, would see, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: his guys. And you know, I did want to. I
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  Speaker 1: did want to just bring out because we spent so
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  Speaker 1: much time on that Mike Florio report on Tuesday's show,
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  Speaker 1: just to bring up, you know, a couple reports from
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  Speaker 1: Mark Daniel's Jeff House saying that they called around and
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  Speaker 1: you know it's kind of news to their sources that
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  Speaker 1: that Mac was available, So you know, you believe what
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  Speaker 1: you want. I know what, Mike Floria was the only
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  Speaker 1: one to to kind of come out with that. There's
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  Speaker 1: you know, some stuff from Dan Patrick today too, which
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to get into, but you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just fair to mention that there were some
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  Speaker 1: pushback on that in terms of you know, where they
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  Speaker 1: shopping him. Was it just a conversation, not to say
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  Speaker 1: that I think Mike Florida is going to make stuff up.
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  Speaker 1: But you also, like Fred insinuated, there can be motivation
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  Speaker 1: for other teams to put information out there, and I
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  Speaker 1: would or agents agents, probably agents really, which I would
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  Speaker 1: also connect to the reports that we kind of have
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  Speaker 1: gotten in mock drafts with Bejean Robinson, which Jeff Howard
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  Speaker 1: another report by him, and you know, Evan is is
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  Speaker 1: grimacing right now. But we are in silly season. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's important to mention. Right now, what are we
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  Speaker 1: We're three weeks away today from the first round of
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  Speaker 1: the draft, and this is when all the misinformation and
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  Speaker 1: you know, so was Evan and I were texting. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, wouldn't you love it? If you're
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  Speaker 1: Bejean Robinson, he's good. But what we'd really love is
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  Speaker 1: for someone to think we want them to trade up
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  Speaker 1: above us, and then as a flowers, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the tackles somebody they might have their eye on
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  Speaker 1: could get pushed down. So it's always a mind game,
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  Speaker 1: especially right now when we're three weeks in, and that's
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  Speaker 1: just something important. Don't believe everything you read, but it
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  Speaker 1: does seem like somebody wants that information out there. But
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  Speaker 1: I think, like when I saw that report, I was
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  Speaker 1: landing and I was like, it's kind of believable if
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  Speaker 1: you think about it, just because we haven't really gotten
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  Speaker 1: a straight answer from Bill. We were right in front
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  Speaker 1: of Bill at an owner's meetings where he said everybody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to play when the question was
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  Speaker 1: asked if Bailey Zappy would be competing against him. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: Bill never answers a question straight anyways, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it's very intriguing that he said he's never really said
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  Speaker 1: Max our guy. He's always like Mac is a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in this league. Everybody will have a chance to play
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  Speaker 1: like he's never fully committed to quarterback. Yeah, Mac is
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback, Yes he is. We know this, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think that there there is something in me that's
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  Speaker 1: like that that could potentially be true. And we also
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  Speaker 1: see that the Raiders are stealing not stealing at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be surprising to see Matt go
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  Speaker 1: there with the way everybody's been going there. It would
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  Speaker 1: have happened before on below, right. I mean that that
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  Speaker 1: would where he could come behind Baropolo and learn from him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'd make a good point to
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  Speaker 1: Mary and the people that are just like dismissed it
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  Speaker 1: out of hand. I feel like we're not really paying
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  Speaker 1: attention to the last four months of how he's kind
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  Speaker 1: of been treated. And you know it's it's you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Jacoby Leaves. You know. So there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things up against it right now. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: any of us want to spend the whole day. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking. I'm not getting frustrated about this. I will
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  Speaker 1: not I want to say one thing about it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not doing it today. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: doing it. I'm not letting this get to me. I
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  Speaker 1: think the one thing that the reason why I get
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  Speaker 1: so frustrated and why I got so frustrated about it
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, is because I was here in twenty and
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nineteen when the relationship between Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: and Tom Brady deteriorated to the point where Brady left,
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  Speaker 1: and that to me, everybody makes that about the contract,
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  Speaker 1: and that to me was two people that it was
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  Speaker 1: like a divorce, right It was two people that just
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  Speaker 1: fell out of love. With the reconcilable difference right there,
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  Speaker 1: that was a personal relationship issue. The money and all
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  Speaker 1: that other stuff. I ultimately think that they would have
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  Speaker 1: made all that work if Brady came to the table
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  Speaker 1: and said, I'm not going anywhere like this is where
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  Speaker 1: I want to be. And I'm staying my point being
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  Speaker 1: is that whether there's a rift or not, whether he's
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  Speaker 1: on the trade block or not, there's clearly some sort
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  Speaker 1: of reluctance on Bill Belichick's part with Mac Jones to
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  Speaker 1: anoint him, make him the starter, name him the starter publicly.
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  Speaker 1: And at this point we're going on now the second
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that Bill has sort of been at odds with
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  Speaker 1: and at what point do we look in at the
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  Speaker 1: situation and say, there's a common denominator here, like two
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  Speaker 1: different quarterbacks. Brady obviously a little bit more, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, a lot more of a star than mac Jones,
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  Speaker 1: but mac Jones is also a name brand, Like he's
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback that people know he played at out of Bama.
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  Speaker 1: He was a first round pick. And now we have
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  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks with at least a little bit of name recognition.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't want to call Givemack anything more than that,
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  Speaker 1: that are not exactly getting along with Bill Belichick. And
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  Speaker 1: I think at some point in time you have to
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  Speaker 1: look and see the situation objectively that the common denominator
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  Speaker 1: here is Bill. And I think once upon a time,
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  Speaker 1: with all the way back to lawyer malloy, right like
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  Speaker 1: that was the first guy I can I can remember
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  Speaker 1: having some issues with Bill, Dion Branch, Logan makings Sante
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  Speaker 1: Samuel clearly continues to talk about it to this day.
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  Speaker 1: You were good enough to get over those things, right.
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  Speaker 1: You were good enough to trade Dion Branch. You were
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  Speaker 1: good enough to dump Lawrence or lawyer malloy. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: but are you good enough now to be alienating good
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  Speaker 1: football players, and I just I don't think you are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean I would say that you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of those were contract related and those guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whether it was having to take pay cuts,
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  Speaker 1: wanting you contract acts that he wasn't willing to bet,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bend on. So, I mean, I do think
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  Speaker 1: that this is a little bit different, and not in
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  Speaker 1: a great way because this isn't as cut and dry
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  Speaker 1: as that. It isn't just Mac wants more money and
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to give it to him. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, It's just I don't I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: can hit the reset button right now on Mac and
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  Speaker 1: then go to what you know. So that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if you're telling me that it's Mac or
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, then we've all had this conversation already on
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: this show, and everybody knows where I standing, where I'm
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: sure we all stand. But if it's just we don't
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: we need to get rid of Mac because I don't
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: like the kid. That's not a good enough answer to me. Yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: it's just not good enough. You know. If there's a
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: great alternative, that's one thing, But to go back into
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the quarterback carousel just because Mac pounded last season, because
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you made Matt Patricia the offensive coordinator, That's that doesn't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: do it for me. I saw something kind of interesting.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much creedance I'm putting into it,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: but just regarding how Mac allegedly went outside of the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Patriots to try to seek help with the offense, and
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: then have how Brian Hoyer and Jacoby both had spoken
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: with reporters about the offense is disfunction. And now those
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: are two guys that were shipped out and then which
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: didn't make like necessarily a ton of sense, and then
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: now Mac obviously these rumors. I forget who I saw
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: kind of speculating on that scenario. But there's a lot
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: going on, and we're off to a rip roaring start here.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I think I've worked through just about everything I had
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: planned to talk about in the first sixteen minutes of
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the show. But we, of course, we'd love to hear
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: from you guys. Give us a call eight eight eight
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: PATS five hundred, shoot us an email, web radio at
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. We've already got some emails coming in.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I also just wanted to set the table a little bit.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And I apologize girls, because I know you didn't spend
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: your nineties and aughts watching as super Patriots fans. But
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: but Paul and and Fred Arrow over there and they're
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: going to be discussing some names, and I'm sure the
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: fans have plenty of strong opinions. A few of the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: names that I know are are probably going to be up,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: names that have been recently up Parcels Mike Rabel, which
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: is you know, my guy continues to be there, Logan Mankins,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Welstlker is available as well, and I I Brady is this?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is Brady? Like? Could they possibly come
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: out of there and say like we're gonna put Brady in? Like?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I don't so I asked the question when we were
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: talking about it. I asked Paul if that was when
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: we were talking about ways to honor Brady now that
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he's we think officially retired, And I had just asked, well,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: what about just putting him into the Patriots All Fame
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: without a voting process and without the grace period, and all,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I mean thought, we really, is he not going to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: win the fan vote? Like? Yeah? Are we? What are
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: we wasting our time here? With that, So I wouldn't
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: be surprised if if they discussed that today and maybe
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: go that direction. A lot of a lot of other
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: coaches too, that are you know, I'van Fears, Sante Scarneckia,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: all these different guys that you know possibly could be
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in this process as well. But I just I love
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the bill parcels of it all, which is just such
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: a great debate point. Um. You know, I've said my piece.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I've kind of come around to it, and I'm kind
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: of open to him being in the Hall of Fame.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Stop it. I mean, I feel like he set the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: stage you want to put a five hundred coach in
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Well, and his drafts, his drafts
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: were really good. That was halfway out the door then
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: during a Super Bowl and that's a that's a valid
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: counter and Fred to make that point too, Um, But
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but I have to speak from my own experience as
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a Patriots fan who witnessed one win seasons. He completely
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: changed everything here for me, and it suddenly it made
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the Patriots seem like instead of an also ran. And
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I know I'm probably in the minority here and people,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you know, can call in and yell at me and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm I'm pounding the table for it,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but I just can't ignore, you know, fifteen sixteen year
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: old Mike two so or whatever I was when they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: finally hired him, and it was like, oh my gosh,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: we have like an actual team now, you know, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, to go from that point, I'm trying to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: think of a team right now that that might be
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a good example that, you know, just as been absolute trash.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And then within two years, you've got a franchise quarterback,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You've got a franchise running back unfortunately lose, You've got
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the makings of a defense that would dominate the following decade,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and you go to a Super Bowl. Now, everything you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: said it's totally right, and the fact that he was
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: on the phone with the Jets of all teams. And
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I can tell you too from experience being in college
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: watching the Tuna Bowls how badly I wanted to beat
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Bill Parcels in those games too, So I get it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I used to be on the other side. I'm a
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: little bit on this side too, But for me, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: just love Mike Vrabel and I think it's ridiculous that he,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like the fans have to like step up.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many touchdown catches to Mike Rabelhow I'd
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: have to look at the stats, but he's got something
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like I look like I had, like the there's a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: graphic online circulating where it's really well done. It shows
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: all the touchdowns that the players that have caught from
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady and it's like Mike Vrabel is like tenth, Like,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane. He played on the other side
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of the ball touchdowns in the Super Bowls, so I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: had to say my piece on that. And then of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: course the last one is just Wes Welker, which unfortunately
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is a controversial pick because he dropped the ball and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, however, you want to see that play better throw? Yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I know it's a rough throw. Probably should have been caught.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: That's how I kind of look at it. But each
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of these guys were getting into Now nobody's really a slam.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of got some issues with the fans because
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the fans vote. The fans are the ones who are
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: responsible to put these guys in. Yeah, I think Frabel
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: has a tough time because he is currently the active
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: coach of the Titans. Oh have beat the Patriots, and particular, Yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Brady's last game as a Patriot is a lost to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Mike Frabel. So I think for fans that are specially
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: maybe more knowledgeable about the team right now and not
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: necessarily like the early two thousands Patriots teams that he
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: played on, might be thinking of more than Mike Frabel
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the Titans coach. And does the optics of putting in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: another team's coach into your Hall of Fame's controlling Yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a little a little strange. At half
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: time in the game, I can't believe that you're you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: want Bill Parcels and I can't. I mean want is
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: uh want is? Maybe said I want it? Uh, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: would say more, I'm open to get kicked off to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Desmond Howard. He ast me, that was it. That's like
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: six year old Evan. I knew he was throwing the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: game at that point, Desmond Howard, the greatest returner of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his generation. In the Super Bowl, when you have a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: lead in the second half and you kick no, yeah, no, no,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I hear you. And that was right as the game
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you felt like, oh my gosh, we might actually have
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a chance. And now this was like I was I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: think a sophomore in college, and I also had mono
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: at the time, so I was a little bit of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a fever dream. I actually I had mono and pneumonia
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: at the same time. In college, I was very I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: was very sick. Where you sick? Are you living in
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: a dorm at that time? Oh yeah? Oh yeah makes
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: playing hockey, you know. I just and I played a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: game actually like with it. Yeah, the day before, like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: we were up at Hobart up up in upstate New
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: York and they have like an outdoor rink and I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was like, I just I am deaf. And we played
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the game. We all played horrible. Remember I remember missing
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like a couple really really good scoring chances too. I'm like, man,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I just I don't feel terrible. Got back and like
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: went to the went to the information Thank you. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was sick. I almost died. I'll wrap it up quick.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I went to the doctor and they're like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you are sick, kid, Like you got
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to you gotta go to the doctor. So anyway, yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that's uh, anyway, that was I wasn't I wasn't born
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: for for eighty five obviously, but you know, my dad
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: my uncle's you know grandfathers. They would tell me about
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: stories about the that Super Bowl, and they were just
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: happy to beat in that Super Bowl. And they knew
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: they were going to get their blown doors blown off
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: by the eighty five Bears. Like there was there up
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: three nothing. There was no conversation of whether or not
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: they were gonna win that game. But the Packers Super Bowl,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: they they probably should have won the game just the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: way that the game unfolded. And to me, Parcels is
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: as much to blame. I mean, Reggie White, like can
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: we we don't put a tight end over there, chip them,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like do something. This is all retroactive because however he's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so mad about like a little baby Evan getting mad
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: whipping his blanket. And when I was when I was young,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and this is this is full off season jus telling
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: us about how we was sick in college and I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was a young and you know, I'd watched I watched
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: games at you know, restaurants and bars with my dad
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and we would just go up to the bar. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so I would I would like, you know, be like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: six years old and uh and and we we would
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: just like go up to the bar and and just
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to see the score and what was going on in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the game and everything, and I would obviously be spouting
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: off takes and some adults would would take it like
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: well and be like, oh, this is kind of cute,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Like this little kid is probably grinding some gears with
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: some people, and some adults would be like, who the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: heck is this kid? Like this is ridiculous. So I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: had some some stories where I got into some trouble,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you know, people getting fed up with a six year
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: old telling them that they're wrong so to hear one.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so actually one time, I'll tell you a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: quick story story time. And uh, it was at my
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: dad's cousin's wedding, and my parents tell the story better
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: than me. But I was in a group of people
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and we were arguing Celtics knicks at the time, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that was you know something that was the Knicks were
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: actually good back then or something. It was. It was
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: enough of arrival ready to argue about it. And my
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: parents were somewhere else and I was there by myself
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and my parents like over here somebody being like, yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: there's there's this kid in the other room and he's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: like going toe to toe with the adults about about sports,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and he's he knows what he's talking about, but you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: it's I think it's getting under some people's skins. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: my dad just looks at my mom and goes, I'll
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: be right back, it goes, and I'm just sitting in
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: there holding court, like all these people are around me,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like telling them that, you know, they're
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: idiots or whatever. So you got YouTube channel. This was born,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I was born like this. I'm sorry. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: gotta ask you guys, though, Like, are there any particular games,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I mean not Patriots game, but just general sporting events
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: or games that you were remember as a kid being
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: really impacted by, like for the first time, or feeling
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: like invested for the first time in the ball After
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: going undefeated, I got home from my friend Carly's house
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and went to town on my aim away message, like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: randtically like as long as that away message could be,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I was probably cursing up a storm. I would pay
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: so much money to archive all that and find it
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: all and some messenger, I'm sure it's probably out there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: What were you to marry you at some college football
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: stuff or yeah, I was trying to think of like
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: some college games, um that I really enjoyed. Honestly, I'd
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: probably have to say like Alabama losing in like the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Iron Bowl every single time, like that was like that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was like iconic for me. Especially the kick six. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: think that was probably my favorite one that I've ever seen.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: What's that? What was that one they try to kick
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a field goal? Oh? And the and one? I just
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: saw that on Saban and Belichick that special they talked
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: about that and yeah, which like slightly off topic, like
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that was crazy to hear Bill Belichick and Nick Saban
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: kind of talking about times they screwed up because you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: don't really hear that ever, that was one of them.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: That was that was one of them. Grand Nick said, yeah, yeah,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that was one of the bad ones. But yeah, that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you brought up the Super Bowl in the eighties. You're
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: right though, it was funny, like and I brought it
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: up before you can go on YouTube and check out
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and we and you know, you got all
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of Boston was just so excited. And now it's like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I could never in a million years imagine anybody being
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that like just I don't know, just positive and like, wow,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: isn't this great? We're going to play in the super Bowl.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Like instead you'd be hearing all the reasons why they're
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: gonna lose or you know, like why they shouldn't be
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: there or those are like the stories that that drive
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things now. But I just remember being I don't know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I was probably about ten at the time, and you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: being excited, and then all of a sudden, oh god,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this is not good. No, And then you got the refrigerator,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Perry running touchdowns it and all that. So it's I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: was young good in nineties. I was young. I was
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I was a baby the same I was four. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the first true heartbreak was Aaron Boone definitely, Like that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was the first time where sports like truly crushed me,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: especially because you know the Patriots where I had just
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: one to know one and I mean that was obviously
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: kicking off what ended up being a ridiculous run. But
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: that was the first time where I was truly devastated
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: by a sports loss. I would say it would be
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it would be Boone Cup Finals nineteen ninety Bruins Edmonton Oilers.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: That that got me too. That was that was probably
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the worst I remember getting in trouble, like mildly in trouble.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I was like a little first grader. I think it
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was it must have been that O one super Bowl
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: or kindergarten or something, but it was Groundhog Day, like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the same weekend. And then I got back to school
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on Monday and everyone's talking about like the groundhog seeing
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: his shadow, and I'm like, what the hell are you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: people talking about? The Patriots just won the Super Bowl?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Like what are we doing here? It's funny, though, you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: see the miss Parallax class didn't I didn't care, I guess,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: but you see the like little evidence of what you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: were gonna maybe end up kind of doing, like just little.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were just already doing it, apparently. The thing. Uh, well,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we got plenty of emails here, and let's Patty's been
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: holding for a while, so let's let's let's jump over
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to the phones here so we don't make poor Patty
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: hold on. I'm sure he's dying to talk to the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: B Squad. No Paul, Hey Patty, what's going on? No Paul, No,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: no Fred? So I apologize. You gotta ask us all
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that's all right? I love the B Squad, Like like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: where the conversation is going to? Um, I'll just say
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Um My first I think, my first
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: um Boston sports moment was when I was ten. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: went to Fenway Park a couple of times and um,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: actually I got you know, my my parents were old school,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: so I got the craft picked out of me after
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the fact. But I was in Fenway Park watching the game.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I think they were playing the Detroit Tigers, and the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: being the bright kid that I was, I was picking
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: peanuts up my nose and shooting shooting them out at
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: people in the crowd. Um, So that that speaks to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: my intelligence and you know. Um. But also like my
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: very first big Patriots moment was Super Bowl twenty. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: was I was an OG bandwagoner. I pretty much liked
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: every other sport and every other team before I liked
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. And my first game was nineteen ninety one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: They played the defending AFC champion Buffalo Bills and beat
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: him sixteen to thirteen. Um. And it was like right
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: around Thanksgiving. I'll never forget like Q Milan threw a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown pass Urban Fryar and that like one
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of three wins that season he had. They No, they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: went not they won six and ten that year, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: there was the next that they were going to be good,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and then of course the next year they go too
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and fourteen and end up drafted jubilat Sodie hereafter and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the two wins that year Dante was the interim head coach.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: But just just a quick question for you guys to um,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what do you think will happen if the team as
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it's construed, minus what they do in the draft, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: when the rubber meets the road in September, do you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: think do you think they'd put all this this crap
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: as or as Sam Malone would say, it's the drama
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: behind them and just say, hey, let's let's make this happen.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Because even though like the offense was an epis past year,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they still did end up winning eight games and they
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: came close to you know, there were one went away
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: from making the playoffs. I think even with as much
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: talent as we see in the AFC's I don't think
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: it's out in the realm of the possibilities. If they're able,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: if everyone's able to you know, squash the squash to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: her feelings and put twenty twenty two back into twenty
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: twenty two and focused on this year. I can see
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: this team making the playoffs. What do you guys think? Yeah? Thanks,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that's good, h good discussion. And I mean I do
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think like if you're gonna maybe color at the Fred
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: positive way of Yeah, they won eight games with an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: offense that like everyone was not behind and didn't believe in.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just I guess it's hard for
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: me to see I think that, like, like I still
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick is a really good coach, and the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: team has constituted. I think they can they could probably
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: squeeze out six, seven, eight, nine wins again, Like, you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it's just how do you get over the hump? How
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do you beat the good teams? And I struggle, even
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick, especially in the vision, which I always
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: say it starts for me, how do you get over
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the hump? Like, and it's hard to say with the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: team constituted, and you really, the only thing you can
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: really hang your hat on is the fact that they
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: have hired Bill O'Brien and that they have you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: hired an actual offensive line coach. You know, the players
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: are fine, and I think they've done enough, and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: think their defense is pretty good. But I can't sit
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: here and say that I think that they can get
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: over the hump and consistently beat playoff team. What was
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: what did I have? Five and fourteen? Is what they
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: are against playoff teams over the last three years? Like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: how is it any different? I don't know? And and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and how much do you really think any rookie is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: really going to change that? Like Zay Flowers great? Is that?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Is he worth two three wins? I can't really say that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't believe. I need to see it come together
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, I think that in order to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: get back into the playoffs, let's just put it there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Like Robert Kraft said he wants to be back in
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the playoffs next year, you have to do. You have
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to win some games that maybe US prognosticators don't expect
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you to win, right, Like, you have to win at
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: least I would say two of those games without losing
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the Chicago right that they lost year to get to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: ten eleven wins and make the playoffs. And I think
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one there were a few instances where
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'll pull a Pall since we've we've already pulled a
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Fred where they got some luck you know, from injuries
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and things like that on the opponent. And if Tennessee
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: comes in here with a full arsenal, do they beat
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Tennessee in twenty twenty one? Do they do they beat
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: some of those teams that were banged up like that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: or didn't have everybody available against the Patriots? I don't know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So I think that that's the problem right now, is
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that you're in that margin of how do you pull
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: off an upset against Buffalo, how do you finally solve
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Miami right for to get a win against the Dolphins?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: How do you do those things to get yourself to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: eleven wins where we're talking about playoffs. I think it's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they're still a little bit aways from that, and I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: think it's worth noting that I don't think we're going
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to have the same luck that we had this year
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and playing so many backups, Yeah, how many backup quarterbacks
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: did we play this? I mean, that's the thing for
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a few years, you know, and then even you tackle
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: on like the Jets, you can't forget about the Jets,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: who I mean, obviously they're still trying to figure out
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: this whole Rand Roger situation. But if they get him
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that's not going to be like a guaranteed two wins, right, Like,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that's just I mean, how those games went last year
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: down to the very final play of the game. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, I can't. I can't ignore
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers coming here to the Patriots. I can't. I mean,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm probably crazy and there's probably no chance.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: But the longer it drags out with the Jets and them,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: at what point does Green Bay say, you know what,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: we need to figure out what we need, what we want,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you know, and we're not going to sit around and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: wait for the Jets to finally give in, especially and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't it seem like it would be totally
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: something that Bill would do to swoop in and take
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: him from Jets, you know. And I know he's always
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: intrigue with those players. I'm not saying it's going to happen,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but I just I can't completely rule that one out,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: especially because I feel like Aaron Rodgers, like I know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and I believe me, I don't. I'm not a huge
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: fan of him off the field in terms of who
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: like as a quarterback. As an athlete, he's awesome, but
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: it would be a challenge. It would be a challenge,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think when you see
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a generational football player who can still play at a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: high level and would instantly change the conversation here more
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: so than any rookie you could possibly draft. I don't know.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I still I'm still kind of thinking it might it
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: could possibly happen, yea. And he would also bring Obj
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: with him like he would he wants him, like he
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: would obviously bring that whole list with him of people
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that he wants. But and Obj is the same thing
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: where he's like holding out for who's gonna give me
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: that money? Who's gonna give maybe nobody? And he wants
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a good quarterback too, though, And as we have three
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: weeks to go, this is when this is when the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: rubber starts to meet the road and teams say, look,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: we're not waiting for a twenty twenty four pick. We
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: want a twenty twenty three first rounder right now, and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to give it to us, we're
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: gonna start talking to other teams and see what they're
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: willing to give up. I don't know if the Patriots
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: are going to be able willing to give up a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: first round pick for him, And there's the money thing,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and there's plenty of reasons to say why it couldn't
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: work and it's impossible. But I just think, at the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: end of the day, here's a quarterback who I know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick respects, who's a great player, who clearly is
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: not you know, as much as Lamar is a wonderful
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: guy and a wonderful player. I mean, there are some
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: significant changes that will probably need to happen if you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: bring Lamar Jackson. I would just say less so than
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: if you were to say, let's tailor this offense to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: air and Rodgers. Would you give pick fourteen for him? No?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I know, and that's that's probably what it would take.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I would say no. And then you say, well,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: then it's happening. Well that's what the Jets are dealing
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: with right now with the Packers. But I just think
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: with this whole offseason, the only the only thing that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I keep coming back to is sort not necessarily about
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers specifically, but doesn't the whole offseason make a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: lot more sense if you drop in a proven franchise
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: quarterback into what they've done? Because I personally feel like
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Dave approached this offseason like they still have Tom Brady. Right,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna sign quarterback's gonna lift all the right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna sign Juju. We're gonna sign Mike Kasiki. We're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: gonna trade out Damien Harris for James Robinson. We're gonna
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: bring in some veteran tackles. Like this is what teams
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that feel like the quarterback is doing the heavy lifting
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: are doing. And that's I think where my frustration has
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: been with their entire offseason is that there's either two schools.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Either you're operating with the quarterback is going to drive
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the bus, or you're operating like the supporting castle is
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: going to drive the bus. And right now they are
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: building a team that the quarterback needs to drive the bus.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: But you don't have a bus driver at quarterback. So
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: how do you get around that? You know, that report
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: about Max so much more interesting, right it does? And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I keep I keep having this conversation with people. I'm like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: when I go into the locker room and I talk
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to our defense about the opposing team's quarterback, they always
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: have something to say. His arm, his legs, you know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he can do both. Like when you look at Mac,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: what can you say what challenges you when you're playing Mac? Yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I get a lot of that those questions too, of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like what's the path like with Mac Jones, Like how
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: are you competitive with him? Just assuming that he looks
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like he did his rookie season and that's that's the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: best it's going to get. And I look at teams
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: like San Francisco and like Miami. I'd also throw them
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: in there too, that are taking what I think is
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: pretty average quarterback situations and adding tire, killing Jalen Waddle
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and Tehron Armstead and making that quarterback look like he's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: an MVP. That's why he looks so great at Alabama
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: because he had great coaching and outstanding pieces around and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I think that he can still do that in the pros.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But you have to have outstanding pieces around him, and
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: this team doesn't, So if you know, I think that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that's the difference. And I think Philly is a good
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: example of maybe you're still lukewarm on your quarterback and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, AJ Brown comes to town
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and now now you're you're all set. You're like, oh,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is our guy. So it can go both ways.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: You can either just drag the quarterback through the playoffs
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: or you can actually bring out Josh Allen Jalen Hurts
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: type breakout out of your QB by surrounding him. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: right now this team is is operating like they still
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: have Tom Brady. Let's jump back to the phones that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: we got Eric here in New Jersey and like, just
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: say he would Eric Skalvina would prove he spells his
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: name the correct way with Eric with a K. At
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: least that's how Matt wrote it. Hey, hey, hey, you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: here a little little echoe, but we got you. Oh
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: let mean you guys show me now better now? Okay, um, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I just I want to talk about this guy's kind
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of stay on mac here um. And like I said,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you guys are touching on twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. Yep, yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you guys are touching on twenty twenty one. I was
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just trying to I was trying to figure out at
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: what point I don't know, I can't even yeah, okay, yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was trying to figure out,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: at what point, at what game do you see Mac? Like,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: what's what's the Hallmark game? From Mac that you've seen
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: from these last two years. Again, I mean you could
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: throw in all the all the extra curriculums from last season.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Then again, you I look back at that game on
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and you look at the Bills game
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: where you only had Mac broke three times in inclement weather.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: And again you're not saying you're gonna get that type
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: of of of you know when, but again you know
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: there's too much air under his throws. And again, at
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: what point and two seasons have you seen the game
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: my hallmark game like this game from Mac where you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: stay here and say, all right, you can win behind him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Because again, if you give any other guy, I mean
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: most guys, if you can give them all the tools,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: all the weapons, yeah, I'm sure they can get you
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: into the playoffs. But what is it about Mac that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you've seen in these last years, Because I can't figure
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: it out now, be obviously the talent. I see too
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: much air under the throws, like Paul would say, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I don't. There's not one game he had. He had
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: one game last year at the Minnesota game where he
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: could have took it over in the fourth quarter. One
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: still hasn't Still hasn't we beat the Texans on the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter comeback? I mean, so, what is it that
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you guys see and what's the hallmark game that you
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: take from Mac that you can stay here and say
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: what is it that we can we have something here
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: we can compete? Yeah, thanks eric Um, But I just
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter no, like like that, like does it really
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: matter at the end of the day now, because I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: think the one game that I would point to that
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I thought Mac really made made himself look like a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: viable quarterback was Cleveland twenty one when he through the
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: seem to Born where I had some pace on. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that was I think his best game as a pro.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But what the whole point that I was making before
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: about look at the Niners like Jimmy G and Brock Purty, like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: are you gonna sit here and tell me that Jimmy
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: G has got anything special going on about him as
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a signature, right or a moment or even just like
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a trait that you're like, oh wow, Like that's that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: makes Jimmy G stand out. And they dragged his butt
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: all the way to a super Bowl and they probably
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: should have won the super Bowl that they got to.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So again, there's two different ways to do it. It
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the quarterback being Tom Brady and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: carrying the team with you. It doesn't. You know, we've
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: seen it work in other ways where the quarterback is
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit lesser than and isn't necessarily the one
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: driving the bus. So the whole what have you seen
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: from Mac? I've seen that Mac can be a service
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: b NFL quarterback when the situation and environment allows him
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to be. And that can be good enough if you're
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: built up other in other places on the roster. Yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I would just I would just and I hate to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: compare people to Tom Brady because it's just it's Tom Brady.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: But you know, just to him being in the second year,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: he sat his whole first year, and his second year
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you saw an overtime win against you know, against the Chargers.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I mean you just, all of a sudden you started
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to see him growing into what he would eventually becoming. Now,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: this is the greatest player of all time. It's you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples. But at the same time,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I understand what the fans want. They want to say,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: where can I look, We've had this guy for two
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: years now, what what can I point to and say,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: all right, if we can expand upon that, if we
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: can feature that, if we can put players around him
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that can help that, then maybe we're on the correct trajectory.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And so from that respect, I kind of get it,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I get what people are looking for, just
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope, a glimmer of you know, this
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: is this is what he can do. And I mean
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I go back to what kind of Tamara brought up with,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you know, what made him good in college, you know,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: those things and like you said, he had he had
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the piece and and and and that it highlighted his
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: smarts and his you know, I think his accuracy has
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: been pretty good, um, you know, as one of his strengths.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: So it's it's just hard because those things. You've got
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a great processor, you know, like it doesn't always translate.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It's not always like oh there it is so hopefully
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, and I think that's why, unfortunately you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: have nothing else to really trumpet right now. That's what
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you have to point to and you say, all right, well,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: now Bill O'Brien's gonna give Mack the answers to the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: test and he's going to be able to execute those
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: with his ability to process and understand the game. That's
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: what the hope is. But you know, to Evans point,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: does it really matter if it's yeah, he's getting out
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the ball on time and a correctly run route to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, is that going to make enough difference
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: against teams like Buffalo, against teams like Cincinnati, against teams
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: like Kansas City, all the elite teams of the AFC. Eventually,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you just you gotta put an end to a problem
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: that's going on a half decade now of so US
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: looking at their offense on paper in August and saying, Nope,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: don't have enough, right, they don't have enough firepower, They're
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna hang. And this goes back to Tom Brady's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: last year, and I would say that there was even
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: inklings of it in eighteen. And I think that Brady
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and Gronk and Edelman turned back the clock one more
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: time in the playoff run in eighteen, especially in Kansas City.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: But that team in eighteen had issues on offense throughout
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the regular season to the point where Josh Gordon all
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of a sudden became this viable asset for them. Because
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that's what they were searching for, was something else, because
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Gronk was you know, battered and starting to slow down
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and and Edelman was to Edelman, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: they really didn't have anything else, and they had to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: make the move for Josh Gordon. And so this is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: eighteen I would say it started. Nineteen was when it
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: was really bad, and it's been kind of really bad
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: since then. At some point, you got to put the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: end end to this rut. Yeah, I think like in
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: order to get what mister Kraft said he wanted, you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: at the owner's meetings, and that's getting to the playoffs,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Like this year, you have two choices. You either trade
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Mac and you get this generational veteran quarterback that's going
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to get you there right now, or you go out
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and spend some money to get those outstanding pieces for
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Mac to be great, because at this point, like with
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: what where the roster stands right now, Like I'm just
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: not confident enough in his traits and this roster to
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: get them where mister Kraft wants them to be. That's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: why I feel a little bit like maybe there was
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: some substance to these Mac rumors, but now they have
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to backtrack because it didn't work out and you can't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you can't Mac bring Mac back after this is all confirmed,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Like you have to backtrack on it. Yeah, and I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: think I mean and to the point of it's silly
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: season with the draft, it's also the time when deals
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: happen and things happen, and you know seven and Randy Moss,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like this is when dominos need to fall. You know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you've heard all these guys of you knows Hopkins gonna
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: get released? Is is Odell's price going to come down?
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: All those different things. It's all going to happen in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the next you know, a few weeks and there who knows,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: there could be some splashing moves still coming for this
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: team that maybe changes where we're sitting right now. But
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I also don't like the reports that come out like
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: this because teams talk to other teams about a laundry
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: list of players, and those conversations can range from a
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: deal getting done to is Mac Jones available? Nope, Okay,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: let's move on to the next guy, right, Like, so
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: they talked to teams about Mac Jones or were shopping
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. That is such a loose term that there's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: so much nuance and so much degrees in there of Okay,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: was Bill calling people and saying, hey, Max available, what
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: would you what would you offer? Or was you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they saying how do you guys feel about Mac right now?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And maybe Bill was a little bit lukewarm on the phone,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: like he's been with us, But it wasn't like we're
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: dangling him out there for you to come and grab them. Yeah,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: And to that point, I always feel like when there's oh,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are interested in this guy, the Patriots are like,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: there's always an element of due diligence that any team
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: should be doing. Previously, that's the Patriots being interested in
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a guy was like sound the red alert, Like all right, oh,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the Patriots might get this guy's you know, teams might
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: scramble that we're chasing the team back then. But I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: think everything is with a grain of salt here over
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: these last few weeks. I like that you said that, Mike,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: with the grain of salt, because it's like, even if
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Bill did say Mac is our guy, we've seen coaches
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: say so and so is all right, it's like the Jets,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's our guy. Two seconds later, Jack Molson is
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: our guy two seconds It's just like you've seen coaches
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: say this is our guy, We're not interested in Deshaun Watson,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: we're not interested in this person that person and then
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: turns out there. So you have to take out You
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: have to take everything. You've to take the luke warm
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, and you also have to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: take the people who are claiming this person is our
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: guy with a grain of salt, because at the end
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of the day they still could change their mind. Let's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: jump back to the phones and head down to Georgia
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: where we got Jody. Hey, Jody, hows it going. Hey,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: doing good, guys, How y'all doing good? Thanks for calling in. Hey, Um,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I just kind of want to take it back to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the draft a little bit. Sure. I just had a question.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: We all know how bad Bill missed in twenty nineteen
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: with nikkil do we do you guys think like there's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: this pressure on Bill, like I can't miss if I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: take a receiver. He's like, I'm I'm big on him
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to day or Jason. I'm good with either of those guys,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: but I feel like he's gonna go more towards like
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: jackle or defense take the safe thick because like if
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he misses big in the first round again, you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like he's kind of staying there on one leg. Yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're putting in the work on
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: safe Flowers. It seems I just feel like that's a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and I totally hear what the caller is saying, but
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like that's a little bit
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of a loser's mindset, Like how do you You can't
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: let past mistakes dictate the right decision in the future.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Zay just because I love him,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: is the only option for them in the draft, but
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I think allowing the twenty nineteen draft to follow you
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: years later to the point where you're not willing to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: take a receiver early because you missed four years ago,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's really great process. If
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you're I mean, maybe maybe you could say, hey, let's
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: not draft a big receiver who's a blocker, you know, like, like,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's not I mean, there's no there's no
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: real comparison between the kind of player that say Flowers
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: and Nickilly Harry are in any way. And I kind
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of feel the same way about Tae Kwon, even though
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I think the jury's definitely still out on that pick.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: He was definitely a departure from Nikkil, Harry, Chad Jackson,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Aaron Dobson as well. I mean he's one hundred and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: eighty pounds, sucking wet and ran a four two, So
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: he's he's nothing like those guys. So I think that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: they are recognizing a little bit that they have to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: depart from that. Well, we're talking to kill Harry, and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: of course you know what that means. Eldred's calling in, Hey, Eldred,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Good, Hi, thanks for calling in. Hi. Yes, Fred,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: they dare you no no friends, no, no, they're at
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame vote. So it's uh, it's just
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: doucing the kids. The kids sounds wrong, like like iverybody
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: keep holding Bill, which I'm holding Bill, but not acknowledge.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: And last season but Fred keeps saying he would you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: talk to the team? Said he started bag but I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: don't think he did it. Do y'all think? So what
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: did need? Did he apologized, like apologize to the team
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: or admit fause Flagiah but box the box? Yeah, that's
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a great question. Becau didn't Uh mc jones, didn't you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: know then I'm sorry or whatever. Yeah, I mean, can
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you just say sorry it's that hard? It's good that hard? Well?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And I mean, and he said, if it doesn't work,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: blame me. So you know, I think everybody kind of
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: would like that that Hey just acknowledging that man didn't work,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you know, and even I think when you heard from
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Robert like it's like we did. We had some offensive
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: changes that in my opinion, didn't work last year. You know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: It's like I think everyone else kind of like just
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: acknowledges it as fact. But to your point, Aldred, just
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the team need to reset right now? Do they need
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: to like have maybe a big move or I don't
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: know if it's a you know some kind of comes
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: back to Bill moment like I feel like you're onto something. Yeah,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: one more thing, don't let you go at two more things? Uh?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I think Bill won the first three Super Bowl of
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a Bill pars There boys. So this draft and everything
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the team, he lined it up. That's why he came
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: back from the Jets to New England because you thought
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the talent only when he ed was Brady and Seymour.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: But maybe it's couple don't fix too. But those two
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: were domain two. But email yesterday, I don't know who
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: a heel would I did ask for a Patterson because
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: back then he was a wide receiver. Chicago used him.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: It again it was threw them up. Yeah, and one
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: more thime. Yeah. I also I'll put a band for
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Hopkins when he first came out. Also a band for
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: will William h Jayson William and I Blake and some
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: more people. But don't hold my feet and God, like
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I said, I mean what I didn't say. As got
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the receipts, Yeah, we got he's he's will and all right,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: thank you, thanks Eldred Well whoever called in and try
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to call Eldred out, you know you better. Yeah, we
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: had an email that I mentioned Aldred's missus and the draft,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: which we we've all had our plenty in that category.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: What's your what misster you most proud of? Evan? Like,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: what's what's a guy that that that you were you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: high on or not high on that ended up being good.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I'll just give you one quick one was I I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: didn't want to draft Dante high Tower because we had
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Brandon Spikes. That was me. That was me, Hi, it's me,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: that's the problem there. I don't know. I mean there's
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a million, uh there. There's definitely guys that I was
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: super high on the draft, and you know, for example,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: like Calvin Ridley's brother, Riley Ridley. Uh, I just thought
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he was Calvin Ridley, right, Like I was like, oh,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a Ridley and he looks decent
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: on film and just I don't even think he's on
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: an NFL roster anymore, just not an NFL player. So
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that one was bad, you know, there was there's a
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: few of those, you know, I think a lot of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the time with the draft, you'd you see guys that
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: are dominant at the college level. And I think a
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: big question that you have to ask, and I think
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: that they probably do this in a much more detailed
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: manner than I do, is why, like why didn't nikkil
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Harry work out? Like? What were the real core things?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily you know what we all think, but what
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: were the real core things that led to that pick
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: not working out? And and then you try to course correct,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: you know, as best as you can. So I think
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: with nikkiel that that's a that's got to be a
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: learning process, right, I mean, how much of an indictment
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: is it too. And we all watched what these guys
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: did for the Patriots, but both Isaiah went in the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Kill Harry aren't even on teams anymore. I mean, these
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: guys were first round picks a couple of years ago,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: and even if you didn't think to kill Harry was
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a first round pick, you probably at least thought, hey,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: he's got size, you know, you could do something with him.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I's just it's striking to me that those guys are,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: especially with when like how bad teams need tackles right now.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure when will sign after the draft, I think
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that that happens a lot, see who we get and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: then then we'll bring him in. But but even still
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: like he was a first round pick, like you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: it's just and showed ability like yeah, Isaiah when it
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: was better a better player than to Kiel for the Patriots, right,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: so he could hurt a lot the same thing, you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't really find that momentum. I think another point
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring up too about this is
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: like imagine if like you go to a college business
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: class and or you know, an economics class, and you're like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: this guy's killing it in my economics class. All right, well,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: how is he going to be when he comes in
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: worse for me at you know, at an accounty for
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like it's so hard to project just people
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: in general going from being students to like, this is
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: a professional environ. This is a job, especially here where
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: it seems even more intense, and everybody kind of says, like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you are just on your toes every minute
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that you're inside this building. But I think that that's
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: that's just a natural element too outside of football. It's
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: just some people they get into a professional environment, they
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: gotta understand how to budget their time and their money
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and their lives and their personal lives and you know
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's I think it's a challenge that
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to talk about football and well
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: he just couldn't play, like but I think there are
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: other things too that you know, you can pay. That's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that's the hardest part for us, is that we don't
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: really know these guys right, and we don't really have
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the resources to to learn them inside and out like
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: NFL teams do. So for me, I'm really just going
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: off of what I see on the field. For the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: most part. Like sure, I talked to a guy for
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: ten minutes at the Combine or at the Shrine Bowl
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: or something like that, but you're really just going off
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: of feel about the player on the field, and they're
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: things like with with you know, Nikkila, you know, they
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: hear about about you know, the work ethic and maybe
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: not being destined to be great. I just doesn't have
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that drive to to want to get there. Like we
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: would never have known that, you know, going into the draft.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: So that's why even like it's it's superficial, but even
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: being at the combine, I just like that element of it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I just like getting to see these guys. What are
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they like? I mean, some guys were so nervous up there.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which. I think it was one
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of the Oregon offensive linemen. Um, yeah, he was nervous though,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: because English wasn't his first Oh really, all right, then
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I take it back, I take it back. Idn't know that,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, he seems like
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: he's about to like combust right now. He was, he was,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: so I'm glad I didn't remember his name so I
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: don't have to get in trouble for it. But let's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: let's jump over here now to Todd in North Carolina. Hey, Todd,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So I got just two quick points. The first one is, uh,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I really agree with Fred's idea of somebody being tested
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this year and we'll come out and if they come
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: out of this one, it'll be really something they've proven.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's our quarterback and it's a coach.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: That's the first part. And the second part, the simple part,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: is actually something dudes hit on and and so did
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: a couple other people there. Brady second year was really good,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: but we forget just the cast Brady had around him
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: in order for somebody to grow and get into the league.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Because you know, Brady was great, but he was able
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to grow with such talent around him, and you cannot
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: say that that was not a factor in his greatness
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that offensively, Like, I mean, you know, I think for
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the it's such a different time period. That's what he
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: needed around him then, and what Macne's around him now
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: are not comparable. I just uh, I was watching some
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Dion Branch highlights the other day because it's like, you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and be like, all right, well,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: that was the receiver that they hit on, right, they
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: dropped him in the second round and they hit on
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the player. And it was too funny because you're watching
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this this speedy underside receiver and they're in these heavy
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: personnel groupings under center, like twelve twenty one personnel groupings,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: and he's split out why And you're like, if you
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: were playing nowadays, you would be in the slot. You'd
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: be you know, in an eleven personnel grouping, and you'd
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: be running Edelman routes right like, you wouldn't be running
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: these vertical post routes out of heavy packages. And Brady
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: has taken these seven and nine step drops and throwing
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the ball deep. So it was just such a different
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: game back then that I think back then a day
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: they had enough on offense. But if you had that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: offense today like that, it's probably worse than this. Yeah,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: we're talking about what we're talking about right now. Yeah.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I do think they had I mean, the defense. You
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: have to you have to acknowledge that they had great
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: pieces and I mean and and to push back on
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the earlier caller who said, like he did it on
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: parcels like the free agency class that they signed that
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: year was a huge impact on that team. So I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: mean I get what I get like and I said
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: earlier with Parcels like he certainly planned some seeds with
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: that team with malloy and Law and Bruski and mcguinnis.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: But you know the Fifers, the Vaybels, you know, the
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Otis Smiths, like those guys that they brought in and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: coached up and then made them. So I always forget
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: where they were seeing more Matt like the same draft
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: class right so that I mean, so you're rookie classes.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I mean compares your left tackle and your best defensive
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: right out of the gate too, So I mean imagine,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not totally different than when we're
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: talking about right now, where it's like, imagine if they
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: got two impact starters, I mean long term impact starter.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Richard Seymour is a Hall of Fame player right now.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are the kind of things I think
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: that this team needs. And I don't want to go
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: as far as you know, with the earlier callers said
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: about is he you know coaching? You know, does he
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely feeling the pressure to hit on this? I don't
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: think so, but I feel the pressure of this needs
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to be a good draft, and I mean it's you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: when you look at twenty twenty two Straft, I just
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much uncertainty there. I feel
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: so much uncertainty about last year's draft class. I could
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: go either way on Thornton Strong, Harris, Cole Strange. I mean,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I think cole Strange probably his floor is pretty decent.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be probably the tackle here for
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the next three seasons. Sorry, Guard, you know, but I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: don't know about anybody else. I really don't. I don't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: even know what Zappy like. How much do you really
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: feel confident about that class yet? Whereas you know, even
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and you could even go to twenty twenty one with
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Parma goat hurt last year, we wanted more out of him,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: act didn't really you know, a lot of issues there.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, Romandres is kind of the key piece
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that you feel like you hit on. But I'll continue
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: to say, I think the draft is the only way
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: out of this thing. I think Ramandre and then Marcus
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Jones are like my two that from the past two years.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: You got to bring up Mars. Yeah, Marcus Jones, I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: feel like he can end up being a guy that's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: going to be here for a while, just because of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: his versatility and his ability to you know, help special teams,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: especially that's been kind of struggling, especially with last season.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I think I think, to your pointsmor too, that he's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the kind of guy I don't want to say you
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: build a team around, but he's the kind of guy
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: that is a marketable marquee kind of player. Where you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: say the Patriots have a three guy who plays all
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: three ways, you know, that kind of thing, and is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: able to make an impact in all three areas. I
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: think that could be. He could be something special and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: something that you know that this team needs. When we
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: talk about it's not just about trying to win, it's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: also trying to get fans to get excited to come
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: to watch training camp, you know, to put butts in
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the seats to at least come see these guys play.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, they might not They're probably not going
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, but I gotta get out
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: to camp this year because they have this generational kind
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of player that's just so special and I'm excited to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: go to training camp just to watch Marcus Jones return punts.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: You know, like that kind of thing. I think they
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: need more guys like that, marketable guys. That's the biggest
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: thing to me is that I feel like there were
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. The training camp was such a weird
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: environment to begin with, so I don't even know if
• 1:01:37
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  Speaker 1: like that factors into it. So even somebody like Stevenson
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  Speaker 1: do all these things for us, is that the right decision?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need to pay the money? Etter? And it's
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  Speaker 1: But where are we going, you know, long term? And
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: just a lot of players like that, the Duggers, the
• 1:05:51
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• 1:05:54
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  Speaker 1: going forward? Or do we need to try to you know,
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  Speaker 1: let him go and try to average might not be
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: good enough. We need to be looking for star, somebody
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  Speaker 1: to be at a round And those are the ones
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  Speaker 1: we need to be signing, and some of the ones
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: not really the average player always average, but players not willing.
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  Speaker 1: Players need to be on another level for us to
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  Speaker 1: go to the nickt love yea. So those are the
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  Speaker 1: players we need to be going after. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: that that speaks to the old, the old, you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Dante high Tower being the last first round pick to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: get a second contract with the Patriots. Dante high Tower,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: he just retired from the league like as ten years ago,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you know, And I look at Kyle Dugger. I think
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger is a guy that that could be a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: second contract guy. It's going to be that caveat that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: he was a second round pick and not a first
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: round pick. But as besides the point, but I think
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• 1:07:50
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• 1:07:53
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think right now they were at
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• 1:08:13
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• 1:08:17
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• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: there are so many of these guys available, you know,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: it's I would just hate to do that there. Yeah, no,
• 1:08:34
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• 1:08:50
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• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:05
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• 1:09:07
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• 1:09:10
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• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:20
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• 1:09:21
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  Speaker 1: like second minute, hour, the ah in that word silent
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  Speaker 1: it is they also have the same name. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the that's how that's the difference our You are correct, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: to most of us is our house or our house
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  Speaker 1: our house in the middle of the street. Eric, you
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  Speaker 1: you know what a dictionary? You just come look it up.
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  Speaker 1: You just completely butchered the name of a town in
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  Speaker 1: Massachusetts on a call earlier that morning. Syllable you should
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  Speaker 1: easily know. Look it up, Eric, Gloucester. Don't take my word.
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  Speaker 1: I live in Gloucester. Eric, don't take my word for Glochester. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: do not take my word for it. I don't look.
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  Speaker 1: I don't take your word for anything. Look it up.
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  Speaker 1: How many syllables does oh you are have? Look it up?
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a dictionary in front of me. I
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  Speaker 1: have one upstairs. You don't have one. Print it out.
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  Speaker 1: We have this thing called the internet. You know. Look
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  Speaker 1: it up. Don't take my word for it, Matt, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: look it up. How many syllables in the word oh
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  Speaker 1: you are? And what are you saying? One? None? He's
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  Speaker 1: saying that the word are and oh you are pronounced
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same one. One. There you go, and there
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  Speaker 1: it is our Paul, and there it is Paul. It's trying.
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  Speaker 1: It's try technology right now. Our who's saying that? Somebody
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  Speaker 1: from China the dictionary the dictionary pronunciation. You told me
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  Speaker 1: to look it up. I looked it up at the
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  Speaker 1: dictionary and it has the pronunciation. How many audibles? Our?
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  Speaker 1: He just said, one. Well, I just I'm just playing,
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  Speaker 1: are you I'm not listening to the pronuciation. Let me
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  Speaker 1: see that hour, Let me see it. So Fred's picking
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  Speaker 1: up the phone. Now it has a little it has
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  Speaker 1: the little pronunciation. You got how you pronounce it? Do
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  Speaker 1: you hear how it was pronounced? It's one. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many syllables it is. It's pronounced hour, yea hour.
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  Speaker 1: It is not our. That's another great moment from Oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: that's a moment that's gonna live rent for you. I
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  Speaker 1: am so agitated by that whole thing, and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even the hard I'm sad that my joke towards Eric
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  Speaker 1: fell a little flat, which was you don't have one
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  Speaker 1: printed because Eric will print everything, like you know, if
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  Speaker 1: we were going to talk about an article that Mike
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  Speaker 1: Floyda had written bout back, like, he would have come
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  Speaker 1: down with it printed out, so he had no problem
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  Speaker 1: killing trees. But that's my mom. She just has to
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  Speaker 1: print everything, every receipt, every email. I'm like, you don't
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  Speaker 1: need that printed, can just scan it coming around? Scan
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  Speaker 1: it all right. Let's jump over to some emails now,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of emails coming through and uh,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: and I think there's some good ones here. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: try to pick some spots. I mean, a couple of
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: people emailed in games that that I gotta be honest,
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  Speaker 1: nobody here is gonna get so I'm gonna save those
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: ones for for the old guys, Paul and Fred. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: they'll go back through. Um. I thought this was a
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: good one, just to point out. This is Franklin in Baltimore. Um.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: He's saying, I remember the buzz around Chandler Jones being
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Did I say Chandler? I got that right? Okay, i'd say,
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  Speaker 1: you haven't heard of this yet, I say Chandler. I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get it right. I can't get it right.
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  Speaker 1: There's a street in La too that's like Chandler Boulevard.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: And I was driving there after this had already come
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  Speaker 1: out on the show that I can't say Chandler. And
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I looked up and like, I hear Chandler, and I'm like,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: damn it when you like Monica and Chandler, Yeah, I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: know why. I'm saying, what what what? What's What's way?
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  Speaker 1: So Chandler's just a lot of effort. Chandler Jones being
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: pretty loud during his first training camp. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I'd also especially hurt when he was traded, at least
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: to me, because Jones was exactly the type of impact,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: instant impact player the current team needs. I I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe we traded that DNA right out of this franchise. Still,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: we all know when it was over for Chandler Jones. Unfortunate,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: unfortunate end um to it. But I mean, I remember
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: having the debate you brought up. Dante High Tower is
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the last one I remember debating like, well, actually I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: take that back, because that was more Jamie Collins High
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Tower thing. I was like, who would you who would
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: you keep if you had to, if you had to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Sophie's choice those guys, which one would you kind of retain?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: They kept their right one? Yeah. Um, and then they
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: got Jamie Collins back for it all worked out. Um,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna read this one. I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: just like the beginning of it, but I don't know
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: where it's going. It's Lyndon Boston. Though Evan's head explodes,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: that's what she got me like, though Heaven's head explodes
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: at the thought winning through winning through a run first
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: offense appears to be on the table. Taylor Kyles, Evan's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: successor at Sealing US, has taken the time to look
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: at the positive possibilities for competitive offense should the Patriots
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: draft a generational running back in the first round. I'm
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna before you, before you go after this,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna connect it to I still feel like
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: they want to attack small defenses and that if they
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: did do this, which I don't think they will, and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I think this is a smokescreen, but if they did this,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: that that would feed into that narrative. Okay, so there's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: a million different directions I can go with this. The
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: main thing that I will say about it is that
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: I think people need to recognize that teams like San
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Francisco I feel like as the always the team that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: people yeah butt me with on this conversation right where
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you can't build a run first offense
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: anymore out of them. Yeah, But what about the Niners.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: The Niners have easily one of the most efficient passing
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: games in the entire NFL, so their foundational elements in
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: their run game are to set up the passing game
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: off of play action in similar looks that make it
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: all look the same, and then they hit them down
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: the field and that's how they really put up points
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: on the board. Their passing game is what wins them
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: football games. Their run game is how they set up
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: their passing game. So either way, we're still ultimately getting
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: to the same place. Whether you end up running the
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: ball a little bit more than another team or whatever,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: you're still ending up to the point where it's third
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: and seven and it's the fourth quarter and it's a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: tie game, and you need a first down and your
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: quarterback and your receivers have to make a play. Okay,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: And the Niners ran into the same problem in the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl where they couldn't make the play and the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs come back and they're the ones whole
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: hoisting the trophies. So ultimately speaking, everybody needs to effectively
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: pass to win in this league. And if you go
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: out and you start investing in using resources on running
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: backs in the first round of the NFL draft, then
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: you are still never going to get there on that
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: side of the football to where you ultimately need to be.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: So that's the big picture of it. The other thing
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: is that I hear and I love you, Taylor, I do.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I like you a lot. But he put out a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: bunch of this stuff about like, oh, we'll imagine all
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: the two running back sets that they could use with
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: their mare and b Jean Robbinson, what is his navy
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties? Like what do you We're gonna
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: run the wishbone now. So we're gonna go into Buffalo
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: against Josh Allen and a need to win game just
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: like last year at the end of the season to
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and he's gonna come out in the wing.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: T well, it would work if there's a windstorm. To
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: be fair, MATC Jones did run the wing in high school.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: He likes to tell us that all the time, and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: we talked to him about playing under center, Like that's
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: the biggest challenge that I have with this whole thing,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: is that if you're only way the only way that
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: you can beat a good team, name a good team
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, If the only way that you
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: can win is holding them in the teams and running clock,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: you are never going to beat those teams. You are
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: never going to beat him. And maybe you can beat
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: him once in a blue moon any given Sunday, like
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: in the windstorm in Buffalo a couple of years ago,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: you can sneak one past them. But if you're trying
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: to beat Josh Allen seventeen to fourteen, and ball control
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: and possession and run clock and all those types of things,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you are going to lose a lot. You just can't
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: do that anymore. And it just the notion that that
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: could work is absolutely mind blowing to me. Also, I
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: would not as a fan want to go to a
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: game and watch that. Personally. That's like not esthetically pleasing.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: That is not good, like bunts and seats. Sorry, deep
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: ball I got. I got this push back too, because
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, who cares about how they win? Tamara,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: if they win, they were It's just it's an it's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: an outdated thought process to think that you can win
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: football games like that anymore. And I think a lot
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: of people look at a Tennessee from a few years
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: ago San Francisco and they say it can work. And
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: it's like those teams were ultra efficient on play action
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: passes and extremely good at throwing the football. They just
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: didn't throw the football in the volumes that other teams
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: maybe threw it in. Yeah, I mean, I thought you're
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: your Your point about the Rutgers kid Pacheco, you know
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, was apt, and I just I've brought it
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: up many times. I don't want to be like I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: love Derek Henry. We all know I love Derek Henry,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: but I don't want to be the Derek Henry team.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the Christian McCaffrey team, where like,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: all right, it's gonna be awesome until he gets dnked
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: up and then we're like just powerless to do anything.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Like it's nice when you get those guys, but like
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: you said, do you think seventh round guy who like,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: you know, gets it done. I can criticize the Patriots
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: for a lot. The way they do running backs is
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: not one of them, like, and that's why this would
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: be such an outlier for them. I know, be Jean
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Robinson's exceptional talent. He's probably the best running back that
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen come into the drafts and say Quon and
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: he's unbelievable, but like he had won one amazing season
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: and then now I'm like, yeah, now he's a piece
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: of the bright. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, not,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: I really hope they don't do that at fourteen. That's
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: what I like. What happened with him was like the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: team was all around him. He got hurt, they couldn't
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: rely on him. They not that they found really a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: lot else, but they did figure out a way to
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: at least be competitive with him. And then he comes
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: back and you're like, oh, now he's a nice piece
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: to add into this and he doesn't have to be
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the guy anymore. Yes, I'm a fan of that, but
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I just I wonder what Stevenson, you know, is there
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: is there a running back that could change this for them?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Is there a running back that they saying, you know what,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: we don't don't give a second contract to running back.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: But you're special, you fit in, you can take it all.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. And I think the Giant
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: and feel trapped in that scenario as well, even though
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: it's a different regime in New York, which I think
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they should think about, Like we didn't draft say Kwon
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Barcley the second overall pick. It's not our fault that
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: that that happened. But with the Patriots, it's like if
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: you draft Bjean Robinson at fourteen and four or five years.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Are you going to give him the second contract just
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: because you feel obligated to give him the second contract
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: because he probably is going to be pretty darn good
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: in his rookie contract. But look at with Dallas and Zeke,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: he's not even the best running back on the team anymore.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Tony Pollard's better than him. I mean, you're already talking
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: about the fifth year option, like what you're gonna have
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: to pay or running right on the fifth year option
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: like that seems crazy? Um, Alex and Charlotte writes in
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: um Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, Like, oh, I'm saying, what foot
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: like the name? Charlotte, Charlotte. Good, Charlotte, Good Charlotte. Um.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: So it's like chocolate, it's not chocolates. I'm a young
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Patriot fans, so all I've known all my life is
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But the first season I can really recall
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: was the two thousand and six season losing to the
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: AFC Championships, go to the Super Bowl, to then follow
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: that with OH seven, which which Alex brought up with
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: more heartbreak looking back. Now, I'll do anything to have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: seasons like that now. But I think the future is bright,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: and I believe the team will make strides to get
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: back in there. I like the positivity at the end.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Six it was a nightmare for me. Freddy Email. I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: did go to that San Diego playoff game, though one
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I've always said that was just my favorite experience as
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: a fan. Went through a whole ticket thing, like because
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: they relieved I was in California, They're gonna re leasse
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: tickets to people lived in California. It didn't get them,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: went back on like I had them. Ticketmaster crashed as
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: it is wont to do. Lost my tickets. I was apoplectic.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Went back in, got one ticket, don't know where it
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: is bought it. Look it's like eight rows and back
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: of the Patriots bench. So I went to that San
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Diego play Patriots playoff game eight rows and I'm like, oh,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be surrounded by charge It was all Patriots fans.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Chargers awesome, I know, and they were chirping the whole
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: way down. And you know, at that point it was
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: you know, Tom and Bill had lost one playoff game ever,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: that was to Denver. That was it, and they were,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and they were coming off a great season.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was great and Ladanya Thomlinson was MVP. I
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: forget how many touchdowns he had, but you know that.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know, dude, you never can
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: rule him out. And they were they were very confident. Um,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: but that was that was a fun one. And we
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: all know oh seven which was just an absolute nightmare.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: So let's go there for bringing those things. Yeah, thanks
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: right now, appreciate that. Going down to North Carolina, Hey, Jerry,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: how's it going. What's going on? Everybody? UM? Evan, Yes,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: sir so. On last week Catch twenty two, UM quession,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: you had mentioned a wide receiver that I had mentioned
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: to probably about a month and a half a though
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Charlie Joney and you were good can go over my
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: mad and you put a tweet on Twitter about he's
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: been gushing all over the place about him. Evan has
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: a case of recency pass right, So I want to
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: throw another name out there for Evan, or two names
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: out there for Evan. Like on these wild receivers, I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: feel like they will be later around draft and give
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: the Patriots the ability to treat it back from the
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: first UM. Darius Davis from TCU, Matt Landers from our
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Kansas from Arkansas. I'm sorry, Matt Landers from Arkansas. And
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: then uh, Jalen Marino Crooper cropper from Fresno. Yeah, the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: kid from Fresno has got a little bit of buzz.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: That's the one that uh, I've heard his name a bunch.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: But I look at with Charlie Jones. I think we
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: talked about this maybe on on another show Deuced. When
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I watched him the first time before the combine, and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I just was like, is he actually fast? Like he
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: looks like he's moving fast, but is he just one
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: of these guys that you know, just just plays with
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: his hair on fire. And then we get to the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: combine and he runs a four six right, And that
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: was what I was concerned about with him. But when
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: he put up that time in the combine's four four three,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Zay was a four four two. So the guy, the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: guy who was flying at the combine, and I was like, okay,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: so that speed is real, Like that's he's got track
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: level speed on top of the fact that he tracks
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: the ball extremely well, great hands, comes in and out
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: of the route better than anybody. If they're gonna pass
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: on receivers early and try to go into that like
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: third or fourth round range. I would take Charlie Jones.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: That would be my guy. Another email here, Uh, you
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: gotta gotta throw some a little bit of fire Paul's way.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: This is Johnny and Madtown. Right now, My ears aren't
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: bleeding and I haven't had to adjust my volume every
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: five seconds. So Paul must have the day off from
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: the pot. Good to see the kids all in great editions.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: All of them especially love Alex's jokes. There you go, Wow,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: jokes making jokes. You got jokes? Um. Yeah. He just
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: says if that if the Patriots did move on from Mac,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: who would the QB be next year? Would they roll
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: with Zappy or would they draft Anthony Richardson, who had
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: popped up on a mock draft yesterday. That seems that
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: seems another one, like I was talking if we're talking
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: to the one about this, I think one if they
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: were to draft quarterback, like if they kept Mac and
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: they were sold on that, I would see them maybe
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: drafting dtr like Late. Oh, we loved, we love us.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know how late it's going to be.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I know that's the thing, but I could see them
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: picking him. Yeah, I really liked him at the Shrine Bowl.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I liked like even at the press conferences, he gave
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: me like a very much like Patriot feel. Yeah, he's
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: got you know, he's a five year starter at UCLA,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: friend of Bill chip Kelly, and he played under but
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: that experience and that polish of being a multi year
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: starter and being a little bit older Mac Bailey, Zappy
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guys, guys that were around the block a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: little bit before they came to the pros that they
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: gravitate towards those types of things, and DTR has got
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: that athleticism to be a little bit more of a
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: mobile passer runner than what they have currently on the roster.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: So if you're looking to just try to spread it
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: around a little bit in terms skill sets and things
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: like that, that's their guy. I can't imagine that if
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: that's the route they want to go, that he's not
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: the pick. I don't know why you would pick. I
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: like Jaron Hall from by U two and that mold,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: but I don't know why you would pick that guy
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: in the same spot that you could pick DTR when
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: you worked with DTR as closely as they did at
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: the Try And Bowl. And I think if they do
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: pick a quarterback, I don't want one that's already similar
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: to what we already have in Bailey and Mac like
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I would prefer someone with different skill set. Yeah, a
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: little game here from Tyler for Providence. Keep trade cut.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we go. We do go a little
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: bit off football, which I like. M that's a good
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: one though, so keep trade cut. I mean essentially, you're saying,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: which one do you want to keep? Which one do
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: you want to get rid of? Keep trade cut? Barmore, Stevenson, Dugger.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I get the game. Now. I'm gonna keep Barmore. Okay,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Dugger. Yeah, I'm gonna keep Dugger. I'm
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: gonna trade barn Moore because I think there might be
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: some value. That's absolutely true. And then I'm gonna cut
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Ormond's are running like I'm same as Evan. Yeah. Um,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what this means because they're not
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: on the team, but let's just go with it. Juju,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney and Brandon Uk Yeah, I don't get it.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: I don't get either, but I'd like Brandon Aiyuk. Yeah,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: he might be one of those guys as quickly on
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk that we talk always about, like who's the
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: guy that's gonna come free, that's not gonna get the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: next contract with the team that he's on. Yeah, Brandon Aiyuk.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I mean they can't pay Kittle, Deebo McCaffrey. Like, at
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: some point somebody is gonna fall through the cracks in
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. But my favorite thing about Ayuk is that
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: he replaced Harry. I asked him about Harry. We're at
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: the combine. You know, that's my guy, you know all
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Fourteenth pick Bijean Robinson, JSN or
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Peter Oh, that's tough. I mean you can't. How do
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: you You can't like trade the pick or trade that's
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: who you want? Which one would you pick? JSM Jason Yeah?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Uh in their prime? Aaron Donald, Mike Singletary or Ed Reid. Okay,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: first of all, Mike Terry played middle linebacker out. Oh
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: my god, I loved Ed Reid. Keep Ed Reid. I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: trade Donald because you know, you get something for him,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: and yeah, forget about the middle life backers. I like
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: to read um. All right, So this is for the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: gen xer. That's me. Thank you, not Alonio. I am not,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: in fact a boomer, as everyone here at work likes
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: to yell at me, and Ed Reid is Ed Reid.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm the generation stems think that they're throwing Madonna to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: be fifty twos and Wham at Me, which, if you
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: guys have opinions, you can chime in on that. But uh,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the wham song? Wham? That's that's all
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: that's George Michael, so right, they have that one song? Though,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: what's the song? Yeah, I Wake me up before you
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: go go? Yeah, yeah, I knew they had a song. Yeah,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with Madonna. I gotta go with Madonna.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I would say favorite Madonna's song would either be Holiday
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: or Live to Tell Love, Live to Tell. My favorite,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: um Carol up fifty two. So though I think they've
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: got some I know everyone love Shack right, but Rome
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: is a great one as well. I think that what
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: that might qualify more? And Ashley soundtrack. Yeah, that's and
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: that's where I probably heard of World's UM. I like
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: Channels Z two, but the FIFTI but you gotta go Madonna,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Madonna, it's iconic. UM And for
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: the millennials, This is Run the Jewels, Childish Gambino or
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Chance the Rapper. Um, that's tough. It's between Chances Chance,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: I guess Childish Gambo Gambino is the most talented and
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: all the stuff, but Chance. Is it a hot take
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: to say that Chance had one good album, because that's
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about Chance one good album. Like,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I know he's probably had mixed tapes before Coloring Book,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: but I feel like he's never really been able to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: replicate Coloring Book. But Childish Gambino is like a renaissance man,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: so he doesn't just make music. So it's a Star
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Wars movie. Yeah, it's been a couple of years since
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: he feel like he's come out with with anything musically.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: This is America? Was that his last one of the Yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: see I'm hip, I'm cool. It's a great song. I
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: need to tell you guys that Paul was texting me Jacole.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: Oh what does that mean? He was texting me like
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: random um Jake because he couldn't think of the song
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: that he liked and he wanted to tell me. So
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: then I got he doesn't know what the name of it,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: So then I obviously get a random text out of
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the blue and it is one time for my La sisters,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: One time for my La. Leave it to Matt to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: be oh my god boy love. And then he texted
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: me again the next week because he was sending me
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: an article that me, him and Mike Greece were talking about.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: And then he prefaced the article with first things First,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: rest in peace, Uncle Phil for real for Phil from
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: from from Stop Stop. He died. He died. Wait, wait,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: he died, like died. He died like three years ago.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Much there's a lot of deaths during At least I
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: knew who he was, right, I gotta be credit for that. Yeah,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: I love this, Um, people can't. I don't know if
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: people can see this behind us. But the top available
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: free agents, that was very interesting. Obviously Obj's on there,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: um is I think Ezekieli I missed the first slide,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: but I think he's still in there somewhere too. Um.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: But it was a pretty extensive list. I'm wondering how
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: many of those people will will find homes. Yeah, they
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: have that, um. So obviously the draft did. Once you
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: come away from the draft, you know what you didn't
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: get to in the draft and fill holes. But you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: also have that deadline of when they stopped counting towards
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: the COMPIC formula, which I think for OBJ is gonna
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: be really really big because now if you do give
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: OLBJ some money, it doesn't count towards the COMPETI compics,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: So that that's big for teams, which also too. I
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: know the Hoyer contract was was favorable to the Patriots
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: in terms of yea dead cap coming off. Yeah, I'm
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just hope that we have like a three headed
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: monster at the end of all this, like in terms
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: of like a great hope and you can pray, and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like we need at least like a vet
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: well hope please, because this is a good question that
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: that'll kind of dig into this. Alexon Englewood, Englewood, New Jersey,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: the Young Gun's Crew filling in. That's right, great show.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Appreciate you. Two questions. Is Theay someone you
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: need to trade up for or is fourteen a good
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: spot to stay at. I'm a BC football fans sad life,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I know and say would be a huge help. I mean,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't even consider that having a trade up for
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: to day. I feel like fourteen he should, he should
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: probably be. Yeah, you could be there, But the rest
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: of the country is hyping him up as much as
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: we are here just because of BC. Yeah, I think not.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't worth it, aren't
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: probably aware of him, just simply because like I'm sorry,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I would rather watch paint dry than watch BC football play.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: But I think that he has getting a lot of
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: traction on I have feel like, I feel like social
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: media helps you see players that you might not usually
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: see you on a Saturday. Yeahs like football, Like I
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: can even be imagine what their ratings are. I know, well,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch to Holy Cross beat them for
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: the first time in like forty years. This year they're
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: gonna play again for the first time. It's like the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: rivalry has been restored. So I'm going to BC this year.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's the day before the opener is assuming
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots open on There's definitely a lot of Zay
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: hype for teams. I would say they are picking at
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: the end of the first round. I know, like a
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: lot of people in Buffalo are praying that he makes
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: it that far down the boards so that they can
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: draft Bills right the Bills. The Bills mafia love to like,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: but if he makes it to us like they love
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: that guy every year, it's like somebody that's gonna be
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: picked like fifteen picks ahead of their pick, and they're
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: always like, but he's gonna make it to twenty seven.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I love when Evan Scolts Bills fans. Yeah.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Second part of this question, though, which was the part
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I was I was going to get at for each
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: of you, what has to happen in the draft for
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: you to think that this team is headed the positive
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: direction and is going to win double digits this season.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: I might not say double digits us a lot strong um,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: but I think, I mean, you know t Evan's point.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: I think like, look, I we're gonna we're gonna do
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: drop our mock drafts tomorrow. And I do think tackles
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: still in that conversation, and I can make it the
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: case for that, but I think just to re energize
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: a fan base locally nationally, give Max something to kind
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: of chomp on a little bit. It's it's it's a
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: say Flowers type move, and that you know that that
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: is something to bring people out at training. I think
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: that with all of these picks that you have available,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: you cannot waste them on people that no one's ever
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: heard of, like no offense to like Cole Strange. But
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: like if I have to sit here and like go
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: deep back in like five rounds to find where Cole
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: strange hole was, I don't want you have all these
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: sec guys, especially if like there were so many other
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: people available that you could have taken. I think they
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: need to use these picks and go after like actual
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: great talent that's played against great competition. Not saying and
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: that culture and shiitt but I'm just saying is not
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: going to be laughing. Yes, literally needs it needs to
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: be like these picks need to be used on players
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: that are like actual come from actual football brands, Like
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: so I get like that brand version of what we need.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: That's my baseline. Yeah, my baseline is that these need
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: to be name brand, name brand, especially the two picks
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: on the top fifty if they want to go on
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: their own board from the third round on. Like it's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: we're throwing darts as it is, So if you think
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: your dart is a better dart than my dart, than fine.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: But when you pick at fourteen and forty six. Those
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: are premium inside the top fifty, inside the top twenty
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: of the first round type of picks, and those have
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: got to be name brand, blue blood type of players
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: where you just start saying yes, like that's I know
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: who you're talking about. I know you're supposed to be
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: drafted here. You know, I know that's. The casual fan
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: of this team of our shows that listens to our
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: shows should be able to say, oh, yeah, I know
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: I know that guy. Yeah. If I don't, I've never
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: heard of your school before in my life, there's a problem.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: That's a baseline. I don't want it. We got we
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: got a great question I'm gonna wrap with. I'm gonna
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pose that one just yet. We're too far.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I got one more pretty good football one. And I'm
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: glad from Richard from Florida who sent this in because
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like we spend so much time talking about Mac,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: the offense, Flowers, all those things. Um. The majority of
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: the time is addressing the average at best offense from
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: last year, which is understandable, but why not discuss the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: defense and how many games they lost after the offense
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: had them ahead. Games like Las Vegas scoring in the
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: last minute before the infamous lateral Green Bay game pats
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: ahead defense allows three straight pass completions while the DBS
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: are seven Minnesota game pats ahead, and then allow the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: receivers to catch and hoping to tackle any of the others.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: You can think of some of those games special teams
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: lost the game like that Minnesota game, like special teams
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: was horrible. I also just love to see I wish
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Paul was here for this discussion because I know he
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: kind of falls on another side of this that he
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: feels the defense still is further away than I think
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: we all do. And I know that Deuce and I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: do just from our conversations. I would love to see
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots defense in a position where they don't need
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: to hold the opponent to seventeen points to win the game.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: They're not on the field the whole game. They want
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: to blame them for a loss. It's like how burnt
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: out where they at. Yeah, I just feel like there's
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: so much pressure on the defense every time they play
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: one of these good quarterbacks to hold the fort. And
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: there's the record speaks for itself. When opponents score more
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: than twenty one points against the Patriots, they haven't won
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: a game in like two years when the opponent scores
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: into the twenties. So if that, if you know that
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: going into every single game, that amount of pressure is
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I think at times insurmountable. And you know the emailer's
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: point of Okay, well they you know, they didn't hold
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  Speaker 1: the fort against Minnesota, they weren't able to get the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: stop against the Raiders. Like yeah, like all those things
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: can be true, but I can also point to a
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: million things that the offense did wrong in those games
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: too that even got them in those positions or cost
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: them games, like in the Raiders game, or you know
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati when Ormandre fumbles at the ten yard line
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: going in for the game winning score. Like this can
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: go both ways. But I just feel like, defensively, let's
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: see what it looks like when they actually feel like
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: their offense is going to go toe to toe for
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: once with another good quarterback and they don't need to
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: pitch a shutout against Josh Allen to get just to
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: get a win. I would just love to see that
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: it was a miracle just to see a touchdown scored
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: in the first like first part of the game, well
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: they didn't score seeing a bunch of fuel goals. The
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: opening drive. They their first opening drive touchdown of the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: year was Thanksgiving night in Minnesota. That's thirteen weeks into
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: the season, and that was the first time that they
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: took the opening drive, which you practice all week long.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: You script, that's your game plan, right, that's your twenty
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: five players that you feel really good about going into
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: a game, and it took them till Thanksgiving to score.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: I mean that those are the types of things that
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like. This defense is just always backs against
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the wall, always behind the eight ball. They're always trailing.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: You know, they got to get into some games where
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: the defense has a lead, and I think when we
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: see that, they do unlock that pass rush, you know,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: UJ and jude On and those guys do get after
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: it against the bad teams when the Patriots played with
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: the lead. So I just would like to see that
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: before we go and sell on the defense. All right,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the last question, and I don't know
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: if it's gonna be the last one, just because we
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: got a little bit of time left, and of course
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: stick around. Evan's going four hours straight today. Catch twenty
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: two coming after you, right, and then mock draft is
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: my kind of We're gonna shoot a mock draft video,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: so the mock drafts will be out tomorrow. They'll be
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: a mock draft video. There'll be big boards, which I mean,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: we should probably tease this a little bit. I mean,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: the big boards for us is a big We were
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: talking about it last night and now I have fifty one. Yeah,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: because Bijon Robinson is apparently in their radar. But I mean,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: just for a little bit of context, I mean, we've
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this will be my twelve or
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: thirteenth year doing so it's fifty prospects, your favorite guys,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: your favorite fits, and it's uh and for me, when
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: I started doing it was like, how can I kind
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: of hold myself accountable because I feel like everybody liked
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: es here's my mark draft, here's mock Draft twenty seven
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: point three, and oh yeah, I got that in mock
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: Draft twenty four point for you know, like it's just
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: because like, all right, that's ridiculous. Like so every year
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, fifty guys, how many can
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I get in? Last year was the first time of
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: like twelve years, I didn't get any. So I blame
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: macrow for that one, and we both I think we
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: both took Cold Strange off of our big boys totally
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: before I had Cold Strange. So usually what I do
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: is I really try to focus on nailing the top
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred, like it when their first three picks, I
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: just want to get those picks. And I took Cold
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Strange off because I thought it was a fourth rounder.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I would love how different draft feel would be if
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: we had a GM, like not build doing both. Like
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: I wonder like how much different it would be if
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: a separate person was a GM. I think you just
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: have to pretend Matt grow is the GM, and that's
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: probably what it would be like, Like you have mac
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Row kind of speaking for things and you know it
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: is what it is. I just feel like that, you know,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: just a little bit of conversations that I've been able
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: to have with mac Row is that his he's he's
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: a college guy through and through. That's how he came
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: up the ranks, was area scout and then you know,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: director of college Scouting and then director a player Personnel,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: and his just knowledge of the recruiting trail and coaches
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: and people out on campus and like things like that
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: that you just need to you need to have that
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: connection to like it was like what we were talking
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: about earlier about like knowing the kid and like knowing
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: his mental makeup and knowing his attitude. And I think
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: that's really difficult to do as a head coach slash
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: general manager when Bill all Fall is focused on his
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: own team and then he switches gears to then going
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: into the draft. Whereas a guy like mac Row, you know,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: those guys are on the road constantly. They're at these games,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: Like they don't just watch guys on TV like we
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: all do. Like they're going to Ohio State and watching
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and jig but play football up clothes. And
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: then they're going and they're talking to his receivers coach,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: and then they're talking to you know, his buddy that
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: he's roommates with. Yeah, Like they just go down that
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole. And I think it's difficult to then come
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: in in January and say, well, these are the best
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: guys I see on film, but not having that background,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: in that connection. So that's why I'm optimistic. The only
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: reason why I'm optimistic is because when I talked to
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Macro about the draft, he has that he loves that
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: type of stuff, like you can truly healing. Like that's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: my issue. It's like I wonder when it came to
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange, like where was Matt grow on that at fourteen?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: I mean at fourteen, well at that pick? Yeah, where
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: was he? And how much it was like Bill being
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the GM and the coach like just trumping the decisions.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: I think the which my read on the Cole Strange
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: situation was that he I think Bill felt like they
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: really needed a guard because of free agency, because Ted
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Carris left, they traded Shack Mason, and they created this
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: hole for themselves at guard, and I think Bill really
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: felt that they needed a guard and the board that
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: they had stacked had Cole Strange as the best guard
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: on the board, So they took the guard. But would
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: that be what mac Row would do? Probably not, because
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of executives around the league just
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: look at it as talent, like let's just grab talent, right,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: and so I think mac Row would look at it
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: and say, well, our number one rated player on our
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: vertical board is so and so. So I think the
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: GM would probably take that player, whereas the coach looks
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: at it from two different hats. Of where's my biggest
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: hole on my depth chart and what's my board staff?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: Act like, we don't have a left guard right now
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: if the season were to start tomorrow, Cole Strange. That's
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: where I think like having a separate GM would be
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: very helpful. I feel like if you had the separate GM,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have let all those people go to
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: create that big of a hole for you before the draft. Yeah,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: I just think that the problem that I agree and
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: I think the issue is that I think where the
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Patriots are right now, they need to be in a
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: position where talent trumps need in some mixed respects. And
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about of both sides of my mouth, because
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't take me John Robinson. But at the same time,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like talent, they don't have a good enough
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: roster to start worrying about who's going to start at
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: left guard in Week one. They just need to get
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: the best collection of talent that they possibly can through
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: the draft and then figure out where everybody fits after
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: the fact. So when you're rebuilding like this, that's I
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: think Trump's everything is, let's get the best football players
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: in the building and not necessarily think about it from
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: that coaching perspective of building a depth chart. Yeah, Like
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: I remember literally being in the draft show and our
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: pick was coming up and the people that I was
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: like so excited about, we're still available, and then we
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: traded back and got cold strange and I was like, yeah,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: who's your guys? It from Florida State. Yeah, I think
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: John I was sick. Yeah, I was like, are you kidding?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Like he was literally still there. It was all falling
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: into place and t back. Yeah. All right, So last question,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, famous listener Boston Cream favorite? Um, very simple,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: direct to the point. Hello state, your amount rush were
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: of desserts. So I love I love desserts, and I
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: thought this was a good one. And I'm also going
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: to add one part in honor of Boston Cream. What's
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: your what's your favorite donut? Oh at, it doesn't have
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: to be at Dunkin Donuts, but it could be if
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: also Duncan does not have the best donuts. It's pretty
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: much no, I no, no, I know, I know, I know,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: I know. I mean, we'd all love to go to
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: PVD don'tut Duncan. There's Kenny's already right there. Sorry, Kenny Dessert.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: I think I gotta go ice cream. I love ice cream. Yeah,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: just ice Wait, you need to say flavor begun. Um
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: my latest one know that? Uh that that my I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: guess he's like my stepdad down. I don't know when
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: your mom gets remarried when you're in your forties, do
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: you call the guy your stepdad? It's like he's Dawn
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: love Dawn Dawn. Peanut butter Sundays, Holy crap, those are
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: delicious peanut butter sauce, ice cream. And even we're not
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: speaking your language. I know we're going dairy heavy, but
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: it was cream chocolate chip, ice cream, peanut butter Sunday.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Gotta have the whip cream cherry nuts. See, I'm weird
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: because I feel like, like, like ice cream is complimentary too,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: like the desserts like and like, yeah, so ice cream
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: is great, but I wouldn't well answer that, what's so?
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: What are you picking? Then I'm torn because I really
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: like apple pie with ice cream incredible. But then I'm
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: also I love sweet potato pie, but I like that's
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: only seasonal. And then I also love cheesecake, Like I'm cheesecake.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Cheesecake is again not something that we can have, but
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: but something I love like cheesecake, especially at cheesecake factory
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: endless flavors. It's just I can't, are you ice cream?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: What flavor? Specific place? Cookies and cream. I'm not super
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: picky about the place. I just like when it's like
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: a real nice part serve that's nice and creamy, and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: you can tell it's a quality ice cream. And then
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: it's such an Alexander that wasn't alex answer? Wait for
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: this one? Fruit salad? Like all the fruit is my
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: favorite thing in the world. I think I housed my
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: weight in grapes last night. I love fresh fruit and
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: fruit salad dessert. It's just a salad ice cream. What
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: are the fruits? Potato chips? If we ever have a
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: polo and don't let Alex bring the dessert, I would
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: bake all of you. I would like that. But it
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: has to be dairy free though, all right, So I'm
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: just gonna go. I'm gonna go pre dairy. Who's your
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: flowers of dessert? Oreo cheesecake. Oh that's great, that's an
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: amazing Yeah. I mean you're you're speaking my language right now.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: I have a very very bad sweet tooth. So I
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: would say Oreo cheesecake. Uh, nothing beats in great hot
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: fudge brownie Sunday Like that's that's just quality for me.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: I really, I'm old school. I've a nice piece of
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: birthday cake is still like really solid to me, like
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: some good frosting, marble cake, some good frosting. I really
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: like that. You don't like marble cake. You get a
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: little bit of both. It's the perfect scenario, a little
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: bit of how could you not like that? And then
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: it's Matt Rushmore right, so you gotta go for Yeah,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I do like a nice chocolate fudge cake, like just
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: like multi layers. I just said, yeah, I have a
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: very bad sweet too. I gotta throw one more up
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: and I make it now is cookie skillet? Like make
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: it iron skillets? Make the cookie and then put some
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: ice cream on it? So good? And why does it?
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: Why do you? I don't know if you guys agree
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: with this, But I have ice cream. I need whipp
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: cream too. Why do you need ice cream and whipped cream?
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: What is it about the two contrasting textures that make it?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: But I gotta have whipped cream on. It's a good one.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: And dug a Donuts rules, Sorry, not very sweet, but
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: I love cape cod. I don't know. I'm a salty girl.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: I guess so some cape cod potato chips like just
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: yeah chips a dessert though, like a dessert chip, snack sandwich.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: It's empty. Bullshit. We got her, We got her, I
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: first swear. Crap, darn it. That's good. All right, Well,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap the things up. Don't forget the stay tuned.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: Catch twenty two coming up next and doubt. Like we said,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: three weeks away from the draft, but we are just
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: going to be pumping out stuff for the draft. Mock drafts,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: big boards, all kinds of analysis. I haven't wrote up
• 1:59:11
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• 1:59:12
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• 1:59:16
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