Latest / Financial Survival Network / Michael Pento -- Two Percent Inflation My Ass! #6039
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- 0:00The only way they could possibly survive or make their economies look solvent is to
- 0:08print money in massive quantities to buy sovereign debt. That's what Japan's doing,
- 0:12That's what the United States is doing, and I think that's going to increase
- 0:16in size and think quantity. So central bankers around the world are buying goal
- 0:21with reckless abandon not only because they know what they're doing to their carecies,
- 0:25but because they don't trust the United States Reserve system, So they don't trust
- 0:29our dollar and they don't trust our bond market any longer. You're listening to
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- 1:00listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz.
- 1:04Well, hey, we're just barely passed the first day, the first
- 1:08week of aprils of April twenty twenty four, it's already hitting the fan goal
- 1:15trading at all time eyes well. Inflation, according to Janet Yellen is going
- 1:22back under two percent this year, and she's betting her job on it.
- 1:26I guess not as much good. Michael Pentapentaport dot com is here with us
- 1:32questions comments kl at Carrie Lutz dot com. Write your comments below. So,
- 1:37Michael, state of the disunion here. Inflation it's going below two percent?
- 1:44Yeah, based on what so for the past nine months, it's been
- 1:48stuck in the low breeze. So I don't know what gives Jenny Yellow the
- 1:52confidence is going to two percent. I think the only way is going to
- 1:56two percent and below is if we have a recession slash pressure, and that's
- 2:00a real possibility. I don't think she's gonna like that outcome. But if
- 2:04not, if you look at the soaring price of commodities, if you look
- 2:07at the real measurement or yardstick for the dollar, which is against real money
- 2:14or gold or even hard assets like commodities, it's tanking. It gets an
- 2:19F grade. Maybe not against the Maybe it's not tanking against the Euro or
- 2:23the end or the pound, but it certainly isn't tanking against real and honest
- 2:28money, which is gold. So inflation isn't going anywhere near two percent for
- 2:31quite some time, unless we have the economy fall off a cliff, which
- 2:35I think is a very real spot possibility. They seem hell bent on making
- 2:39that happen, don't they. It would appear so jerry, so so gold.
- 2:47Even if these a highly welled some might refer to them as inflated prices.
- 2:53I'm sure you can see the headlines. Experts surprised by gold and silver's
- 2:58recent strength, right, these x berts to get everything wrong. Yeah,
- 3:01well, you know, no one knows better what's happening with fiat currencies than
- 3:06central bankers around the world, and they know what they're doing. The only
- 3:10way they could possibly survive or make their economies look solvent is to print money
- 3:19in massive quantities to buy sovereign debt. That's what Japan's doing, That's what
- 3:23the United States is doing, and I think that's going to increase in size
- 3:27and in quantity. So central bankers around the world are buying gold with reckless
- 3:31abandon not only because they know what they're doing to their currencies, but because
- 3:36they don't trust the United States reserve system, So they don't trust our dollar,
- 3:39and they don't trust our bund market any longer. I mean, especially
- 3:44that's the case when the United States could just say, you know, you
- 3:46know, laterally your reserves are cut off. You no longer have access to
- 3:51your currency reserves, which are dollars in sovereign debt. So it makes a
- 3:57lot more sense for them just to buy gold. They hold the gold,
- 4:00and you know, they sell access of goods to the United States. Right,
- 4:04they have excess dollars, they usually would park them in treasuries, but
- 4:09instead of doing that, they go, let me just sell my dollars and
- 4:11buy some gold, and then they obviate the problem of being, you know,
- 4:16a victim of US dollar hegemony. Then he adds to that the fact
- 4:20that real interest rates nominal rates are rising, if you've noticed, but religious
- 4:27rates are falling because mister Powell's hell bent on cutting interest rates this year.
- 4:32Now one carry, Why would he do that? Why would he do that
- 4:36when you could I assume he looks at it short of the CRB index and
- 4:42it's just going up into the right like a rocket ship. Why would he
- 4:46do that? Why would he be cutting rates when inflation has been staying higher
- 4:51than fifty percent north of his target for nine months. How would he do
- 4:56that? And I think he's panicked because he knows that that America cannot issue
- 5:03debt north of five percent and remain solvent. He just can't do it.
- 5:08And Corporate America with forty forty five percent of the Rustle two thousand being held
- 5:16in companies that have no profits, no have no earnings, they have to
- 5:21issue debt constantly. And they used to issue it at very low interest rates
- 5:26close to zero, and now it's you know, eight percent for high yield
- 5:30debt depending on the credit quality of the borrow. So Powell knows before he
- 5:34has a recession or depression, which is what it really would be, he
- 5:40needs to keep asset bubbles growing and he needs to keep the economy the rate
- 5:45of GDP to increase. He needs had to happen because you know, when
- 5:49you think about it having a recession, when acid prices are a little bit
- 5:56above where they should be historically, it's not such a big deal. And
- 5:59when debt levels aren't so extreme, this is a big deal. But when
- 6:03you have a recession when asset prices, stock and real estate prices are fifty
- 6:10percent above where they normally are historically, the ratio of total market cap to
- 6:15GDP is fifty percent above where it should be historically speaking, the ratio of
- 6:21home prices to medium family incomes is fifty percent above where it usually is historically.
- 6:29So if you have a recession, it could quickly become a depression.
- 6:33Carry you imagine what the banking system would look like if home prices and stock
- 6:38prices went down fifty percent. I mean this is I'm not making up number,
- 6:42I'm not being hyperbolic. I mean, if you have the home price
- 6:45to income ratio now is five point five, it was two point eight in
- 6:48the year two thousand, total market cap of equities to GDP is one hundred
- 6:54and eighty eight percent. It should be one hundred percent or even slightly less
- 6:58than that. If you go back to where it was in the eighties and
- 7:00nineties before we had this ZERP. You know this desert regime asert I'll see
- 7:05it. So after prices were to crash by fifty percent, what condition would
- 7:11the banking sector be in, what condition would the consumer be in? It
- 7:14wouldn't be a recession, will be depressions. And that is why Cole is
- 7:18hell bent and paddicking to get interest rates down, even though he's going to
- 7:23be cutting rates when he's nowhere near his inflation. To him, that's scary,
- 7:28a scary proposition. And so what about the dollar? Hell, how
- 7:31much longer can the dollar exist in this situation? Well, Kerry, like
- 7:38I said before, if you're measuring measuring the dollar against the euro, I
- 7:41mean quite a long time. Look it looks it looks fine, It looks
- 7:44fine. Yeah, it might only might only get hurt on the margins.
- 7:47I mean, how much is the dollar going to collapse against the end.
- 7:50They can't be that that retirement island can't even hardly get off zero. I
- 7:57mean they just go to off negative interest rates for five and a quarter with
- 8:01great so against the end and the euro maybe maybe not so bad. But
- 8:07measure the dollar again. Measure the dollar against oil, carry, measure the
- 8:11dollar against gold, it even silver, measure Measure that and tell me how
- 8:16you think it's doing. Measure it against Melas, against a latte from our
- 8:22least favorite right left wing coffee purveyor you know, stark about Live. Yeah,
- 8:31my latte has doubled in price in the past like three or four years,
- 8:37and they cut back on their customer disloyalty program. Uh, and I
- 8:43think sometimes you order a latte, you know, like you know, I
- 8:46order the medium and it's half filled with cream, yeah, you know,
- 8:50and then a quarters cool. That's my new site, the Inflation Inflation Dot
- 8:54Cafe. Well, you know what, you know what the sad part is,
- 8:58Carrie, that's seventy percent poll that came out to I'm going to go
- 9:01by Forbes in twenty twenty three, seventy eight percent. That's a lot of
- 9:07Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. That's friedmre because of the inflation that had
- 9:13been wrought against them by the very people who proclaim that they're for the middle
- 9:20class. We're doing this for full employment. We need full employment. We
- 9:28need to have stable prices, which sometimes means zero percent inflation. And then
- 9:33it became two percent inflation, and then it became nine percent inflation, and
- 9:39now it's three percent inflation. But hey, you know what, three percent
- 9:43inflation isn't so bad. We can't really get to two. Let's just talk
- 9:46about cutting interest rates now when inflation is still fifty percent above the target.
- 9:52And here's the thing that I think these gen there's four hundred PhD economists that
- 9:56work in the federal Reserve at all. I think this four hundred people.
- 10:01I was looking to hire one and I couldn't find any. Now I know
- 10:03you're all at the FED to disrupting things, Well, well you know you
- 10:07better go. You better off going to kindergarten and getting you know, a
- 10:13kindergartener to run your economic models. Because here's the thing that I think they're
- 10:18going to be most surprised about. What if the Federal Reserve starts cutting interest
- 10:22rates? The Fed Funds rate, that's the rate they control. They don't
- 10:24control long term rates and long term rates sure, because inflation becomes intractable.
- 10:31That's a salient and viable risk. And if that's the case, they will
- 10:35not provide any salve for anything. If that's if that happens, m you
- 10:41think that's a viable option here? I mean, is that is that really
- 10:48going to happen where they cut the rates and then rates go up? Well,
- 10:52I mean we let's just let's just normally speaking, historically speaking, the
- 10:56ten year treasurino ads commensurately with inflation plus real GDP growth. So if inflation
- 11:05is at three percent and let's just say real GDP growth around two three percent,
- 11:09Atlanta Fed has it at two and a half, that's five and a
- 11:13half percent. A ten year note is nowhere near five and a half percent
- 11:16right now, What if, in an environment of a soft landing, supposedly
- 11:20purportedly so, the FED start to slash interest rates? What do you think
- 11:24is going to happen with commodity prices? Which what do you think is gonna
- 11:28happen with the dollar? They're going to crash, right right? A dollar
- 11:31would crash, mind prices didn't sort. Is that going to be good for
- 11:35inflation or bad for inflation? I think it's going to be pretty bad for
- 11:39inflation. Well if three inflation goes up. So if you have real GDP
- 11:43at two percent three percent plus inflation at four or five, six seven percent,
- 11:48what the hell or why in God's good name would anybody buy a ten
- 11:54year note yielding four and a hared percent? It doesn't make any sense to
- 11:56me, especially when the Fed has, you know, at least tacitly admitted
- 12:01to you that they can never control inflation without destroying the economy. So so
- 12:07they're stuck. In other words, right, yeah, I think they're I
- 12:11think they're stuck. I think they're in a I think they're in a dilemma
- 12:13of epic proportions because if they do nothing and keep their interest rates where they
- 12:18are already. You know, we just had the n FIB Small Bism Optimism
- 12:22Index come out that has strung for twenty seven months in a row. Twenty
- 12:26seven months in a row. Household net interest income has plunged by two hundred
- 12:33billion dollars in this current Fed tightening signal. That's because you know, back
- 12:39in back in the two thousand and six Fed raised rates, but it was
- 12:43an inaggregate, households gained income because they have you know, their interest income
- 12:48went up. But now we have a lot more percentage of debt, household
- 12:52debt that's in a variable rate environment, personal loans, credit card debt,
- 12:58you know, revolve day. So net interest income has plunged. We have
- 13:03a near perfect recession indicator. It's called the yield curve. It's been inverted
- 13:07for a record amount of time. Positive real interest rates that have existed for
- 13:13about almost a year now. When that is the case, when you have
- 13:16real a real Fed fund rate, so the Fed fund rates five and a
- 13:20quarter to five and a half, the effective Fed fundrate is five point three
- 13:24subtracted by inflations around two percent. Whenever you get that for about a year,
- 13:30the economy has tended to melt down in the past. Howell knows all
- 13:35this. We've had the most corporate defaults in Q one in twenty twenty four
- 13:41CITs to global financial crisis. Wow, at a loan and credit card.
- 13:46The faults are soaring. The consumer, oh, you know, not only
- 13:50the consumer in the corporation. They can't handle these interest rates. But you
- 13:54know what, the government can't handle these interest rates either. Imagine paying two
- 13:58trillion dollars a year on interest. That's crazy. So they have to unilize
- 14:03the debt, right, they're going to be monetizing, which is basically q
- 14:07E. Right. Uh, it's not it's exactly what it is. It's
- 14:11exactly what it is. How much how much debt can they buy before the
- 14:16game blows up? I guess they can buy the debt and uh, basically
- 14:22quarantine it, right, basically sterilize the money, make the banks keep it
- 14:30on deposit with the Fed. Right, so then the money doesn't get unleashed.
- 14:35Yeah, but you know what happened. You know that that's a that's
- 14:37a possibility. But what's going to happen with the currency if they do that.
- 14:41I mean, I can't see the Fed's balance sheet going back to nine
- 14:43trullion and higher without destroying the purchasing power of the middle class, which is
- 14:48already on life support. I just can't see it happening. Mhm. They
- 14:54could. They could try to do that. That that's for sure. But
- 14:56but you know, if they credal is inflation and you know, they give
- 15:00all these back the banks have these reserves, I mean, we couldn't be
- 15:05We couldn't be Japan. We could turn into Japan. But is that is
- 15:11that really our model that we want to pursue? That is that the model
- 15:13we want to follow? And is the is the IF going to buy?
- 15:18Is that they're going to buy corporate debt too? Are they going to buy
- 15:22mortgage backed securities too? I mean, are they going to buy everything on
- 15:26the planet and then pay an enormous amount of interest on excess reserves? Is
- 15:31that what they're going to do? I guess as possible, I can.
- 15:35I guess they can do that, but I think they can just they would
- 15:37destroy the dollars purchasing power against hard assets. I think that would be a
- 15:41very big outcome, negative outcome. So so it's not like back in two
- 15:48thousand and nine when they just monetize the debt and said everything's fine, right,
- 15:52We're not there now. You notice that two thousand and nine didn't solve
- 15:58anything. I mean we haven't. We have still have. We still have
- 16:02record asset bubbles, record ascid bubbles. I mean what right now that I
- 16:07mentioned it, seventy eight percent of Americans living page check to paycheck. Who
- 16:11can afford a home anymore? You know, the market for first time old
- 16:17buyers is gone, I get afford it. So you know, the FA
- 16:22has to make some very serious choices coming up. What do they want to
- 16:23do? They do they want to usurp the market price of assets forever and
- 16:27see if that See how that works. I mean, we could be that,
- 16:30we could be we could become Japan. That's a nation that's been mired
- 16:34in growth that's low floating, you know, around zero for decades. That's
- 16:41what we want to do. That's fun. Yeah, yeah, well we
- 16:44see how well that works? Right? Yeah? You see, you know
- 16:48the whole thing is about you burst and arrogance. At some point we have
- 16:52to decide to let markets function freely or just have the state take care,
- 16:56take care of everything, control everything. That is where Japan is right now.
- 17:00They buy they buy almost every single bond issued by the Japanese Central Bank.
- 17:07I mean every JGB is bought by the government, and the government owns
- 17:11I think about half of all of ETF's outstanding. So if that's what we
- 17:17want to do, that's fine, all right. So inflation's going up.
- 17:23Interest rates are going to go up because they're going to cut them and it's
- 17:26going to cause them to go up. So the only safe have ins We're
- 17:32looking at precious metals, right well, so when you enter sectors four and
- 17:37five and right now where I believe we're in sector four of my inflation deflation
- 17:42spectrum, that's an increase in the rate of inflation and a second derivative basis.
- 17:49So you look at energy, you look at gold, and you look
- 17:55at shorting the bond market, and that's what we're you know, we're headaches
- 17:59towards that sector Sector four and five right now, kind of like I said,
- 18:03between three and four, which is stasis, which is a stability in
- 18:07the second derivative of inflation. But let's just see what Powell does that we
- 18:15have a problem coming up around June and July, and that's when the excess
- 18:18reserves from the reverse repol facility run dry. And that's provided all the liquidity
- 18:25for the bond market and all the liquidity for the stock market. When that
- 18:30ends, we could have a serious problem with both stocks and bonds. Bond
- 18:36yields could soar and stock prices could plumme it because the liquidity affor those assets
- 18:40dries up. So we'll see what his decision is. It's it's up to
- 18:44Powerfull and the FOMC. They are a very powerful institution. I know some
- 18:48people come on financial media and say, oh, they're irrelevant. They just
- 18:52no, they're not irrelevant. They provide the liquidity, they control the base
- 18:56money supply. They control liquidity for the banking system. And if you think
- 19:00the banking system is irrelevant in the United States, that I'll disagree with you.
- 19:06So let's see what he does. I mean, I think my own
- 19:08belief is he'll flirt with reality, and when reality blows up in his face,
- 19:12he'll acquies that. He'll cut interest rates, he'll go back to QI,
- 19:18he'll buy all the government debt, he'll take have the bonds like you
- 19:21said, taking off the bank's balance sheets and sitting at the federal reserve.
- 19:25They'll pay the bank's excess interests on those excess reserves. And you know,
- 19:30all this comes down to one thing. The rich will get richer and the
- 19:34poor will get poorer. Those that spend thirty forty fifty percent of their income
- 19:41on clothing and shelter and food will be moved further towards penurine. And people
- 19:49like us who own multiple houses and have you know, multimillionaires, which just
- 19:53get richer and richer. I don't, I deny, and I don't like.
- 19:57Yeah, do I enjoy being wealthy? You enjoy being wealthy? I
- 20:00guess we do. But it's just not fair and it's not a viable way
- 20:06to run a country because you just can't have a country run without a middle
- 20:10class, a functioning and viable middle class. Yeah no, can't. We
- 20:15see what's happening in China now, right? The country had a more fragile
- 20:22middle class than they thought, and now they've done everything they could to destroy
- 20:26it, and now they're reaping the fruits of their policies, as every country
- 20:33eventually does. Right. Yeah, it's risky for the this country to go
- 20:41down the road of looking more and more like a Banana republic in their monetary
- 20:48policy, their fiscal policy, and even in the way we transition power from
- 20:53one administration to the next. You know, when you try to influence elections
- 21:00by putting people who are running for office in jail, it's right, it's
- 21:08you in other words, And I'm a libertarian, I'm not a Republican,
- 21:12So don't don't anyone same say so when you try to surp the power of
- 21:18the people to decide who they want to be president, that leads to big
- 21:22problems. So when you have political chaos financial uh, when you have monetary
- 21:29chaos and you have a fiscal chaos, it leads to economic chaos. That's
- 21:33where we are, and that's where we're headed in a more salient fashion.
- 21:38All right, On that note, we will let you go. Michael.
- 21:41I know you have a busy day ahead of you. A questions comments for
- 21:45Michael myself k L at kerrie Lets dot com. Write your comments below in
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- 22:03pleasure, even if the topic is somewhat somber and I'm not depressing you know,
- 22:10well, it's unfortunately. You know what else? What other conclusion can
- 22:14you arrive at? If you're an independent thinker, look around and tell me
- 22:18if you think this is a viable situation And the answer is sadly no,
- 22:22absolutely, all right, We appreciate you, we'll talk to you, and
- 22:26soon you'll be well. Thank you, carry you too, Thanks for listening
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