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The Onboard UFO Encounters of Leo and Mike Dworshak · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining me for a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal.
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  Speaker 1: Today's episode is a very special one. I'm super excited
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  Speaker 1: about it. Today I'm going to be talking about a
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  Speaker 1: single contact case. This one is a multiple witness case.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredibly extensive. It's a very early case as well,
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  Speaker 1: starting way back in nineteen thirty two, long before that
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  Speaker 1: this subject had any popularity really at all. So that alone,
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  Speaker 1: I think makes it a very important case. But what
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  Speaker 1: really makes this case special is how extensive it is
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  Speaker 1: and the information that the witnesses were able to get
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  Speaker 1: from the ets, who are very much human looking ets.
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  Speaker 1: These ets also provided all kinds of predictions that turned
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  Speaker 1: out to come true. It's such a fascinating case. I
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  Speaker 1: call this episode the onboard UFO Encounters of Leo and
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dwarshak. This case deserves to be far more well
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  Speaker 1: known than it is. I don't want to take too
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  Speaker 1: long in the introduction. Let's just get to the story itself.
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  Speaker 1: There are twelve at least major events onboard encounters. It
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  Speaker 1: just gets better and better as time goes on, so
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  Speaker 1: do stay tuned to the end. Because it's really amazing
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  Speaker 1: all the way through. So the first incident I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to talk about I call the first encounter. UFO contact
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  Speaker 1: often starts at a very early age. Leo and Mike's
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  Speaker 1: case does not appear to be generational. It was sheer happenstance, synchronicity,
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  Speaker 1: luck that allowed them to have this encounter. But it
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  Speaker 1: was this first encounter that started everything. It was a
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  Speaker 1: warm summer afternoon in nineteen thirty two as Leo Dwarshak,
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  Speaker 1: then a twelve year old farm boy from the tiny
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  Speaker 1: town of Kildeer, North Dakota, and his eight year old
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  Speaker 1: brother Mike Michael Adam dwarf Shack. They had just finished
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  Speaker 1: their chores, and as they usually did, they went hiking
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  Speaker 1: around in the countryside. They were about one and a
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  Speaker 1: half miles east of town, standing on the top of
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  Speaker 1: a small hill when Mike was the first to notice
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  Speaker 1: a strange, disc shaped object sitting in the field in
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  Speaker 1: the valley below them. As Leo says, it was a huge,
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  Speaker 1: round thing, as big as our barn. At least. We
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  Speaker 1: just stood there gaping at it and began excitedly discussing
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  Speaker 1: what it was doing down there, and trying our best
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  Speaker 1: to understand just what we were seeing. This building or
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  Speaker 1: machine was unlike anything we had ever seen or heard
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  Speaker 1: of before. It was silvery perfectly round. It looked like
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  Speaker 1: polished metal. I counted many different colors of light on
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  Speaker 1: it that came from a band around the edge was
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  Speaker 1: totally silent. Now again, they had never heard of UFOs.
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  Speaker 1: Few had at that time. This object was a half
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  Speaker 1: mile away in an area where there were no roads,
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  Speaker 1: no signs of civilization, so they decided to walk closer
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  Speaker 1: to get a better look. And this is when something
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  Speaker 1: very strange happened. As Leo says, as we began to
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  Speaker 1: walk downhill towards the machine, we were still more amazed
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  Speaker 1: to find our way blocked by an invisible force that
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  Speaker 1: would not let us get any closer. It was as
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  Speaker 1: if we were bumping against an invisible fence or wall.
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  Speaker 1: So they tried moving to the side, but no, they
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  Speaker 1: could not get any closer, So they just sat down
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  Speaker 1: and watched, and both were filled with questions about what
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  Speaker 1: this object was or could be. After several minutes, the
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  Speaker 1: flashing light stopped, an opening appiered, and a ramp slid
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  Speaker 1: down to the ground, and three men emerged. Each wore
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  Speaker 1: identical jumpsuits. They began to walk around the craft as
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  Speaker 1: if studying the environment. At that time, there was a
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  Speaker 1: huge grasshopper problem in the area and the government had
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  Speaker 1: started spring pesticides. They wondered if there was a connection there.
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  Speaker 1: It turned out later that they were right. The strange
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  Speaker 1: men were outside for only a few minutes, then returned
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  Speaker 1: back into the craft. The boys were too distant to
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  Speaker 1: see much detail on the men, and by now it
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  Speaker 1: was getting towards dusk, so Leo and Mike went the
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  Speaker 1: one and a half miles back to their farmhouse. The
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  Speaker 1: craft was still there when they left, but they were
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  Speaker 1: eager to return the next day to see if it
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  Speaker 1: was still there. As Leo says, this was the most
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  Speaker 1: exciting thing we had ever seen. So the next morning
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  Speaker 1: they rushed through breakfast and their chores and excitedly returned
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  Speaker 1: to the spot, only to find that the craft was gone.
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  Speaker 1: They were bitterly disappointed. They wondered, in fact, if they
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  Speaker 1: had actually imagined it, but they had both seen it.
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  Speaker 1: They remained consumed with curiosity, and three days later they
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  Speaker 1: returned for a third look, but there was still no
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  Speaker 1: sign of the craft. They began to visit the area
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  Speaker 1: regularly on the off chance that it might come back,
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  Speaker 1: but each time nothing was there. It was the first encounter,
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  Speaker 1: a really amazing close up sighting of a landed UFO
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  Speaker 1: and humanoids. Pretty unusual, certainly for that era, but this
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  Speaker 1: was just the beginning. The boys had no idea at
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  Speaker 1: that time really what they were even looking at. The
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  Speaker 1: idea of UFOs and ET's had not quite occurred to
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  Speaker 1: them yet, but they certainly could tell that what they
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  Speaker 1: had seen was really unusual. They were really hoping for
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  Speaker 1: a second encounter, and of course that did happen, as
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  Speaker 1: we shall see. Thankfully, the boys didn't give up searching
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  Speaker 1: for this craft, and their patience was rewarded. Was about
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  Speaker 1: two weeks later, they were exploring the valley where they
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  Speaker 1: had previously seen this strange machine when they actually saw
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  Speaker 1: it flying silently overhead. They rushed back up to this
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  Speaker 1: small hill and hid behind some bushes and watched as
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  Speaker 1: this craft landed in the same spot it had landed before,
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  Speaker 1: and as before, the colored lights flashed around a ring
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  Speaker 1: on the center of the craft and then stopped and
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  Speaker 1: went out. The boys tried to approach, but again found
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  Speaker 1: themselves blocked by this weird, invisible force field. They noticed
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  Speaker 1: that everything was eerily still. Not even the blade of
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  Speaker 1: grass moved, and Leo says, while we sat by the
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  Speaker 1: barrier and watched this huge machine, the strange door started
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  Speaker 1: to open. A total of six men emerged from the
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  Speaker 1: door and walked down the ramp. Both boys were amazed.
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  Speaker 1: They took a close look at these guys. Instead of jumpsuits,
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  Speaker 1: they were now wearing what looked like fine new looking clothes,
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  Speaker 1: shirts and pants. They began walking around the ship and
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  Speaker 1: then bent down and started picking up samples from the ground. Now,
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  Speaker 1: although the men ignored the boys, both boys felt that
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  Speaker 1: the men knew they were there. They watched the activity
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  Speaker 1: for about an hour until it started to get towards
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  Speaker 1: sunset and they knew they had to go home. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Arriving home, they did tell their parents about what they
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  Speaker 1: had seen, and their parents listened and admitted that it
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  Speaker 1: did sound like a strange airship, but were not very
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  Speaker 1: receptive and told them not to talk about it. And,
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  Speaker 1: as Leo says, we were very disappointed at their response
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  Speaker 1: to what was for us the most exciting experience of
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  Speaker 1: our lives. The next day, Disappointed by the response of
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  Speaker 1: their parents, they went to town and sought out a
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  Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of mister Brooks, who they thought
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  Speaker 1: was very worldly, and they expected that he might be
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  Speaker 1: able to explain what they had seen. So they shared
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  Speaker 1: their story with him, and to their delight, mister Brooks
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  Speaker 1: not only believed them, he said he had seen a
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  Speaker 1: craft around town too. He said it was the most
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  Speaker 1: beautiful thing he had ever seen, and he assured them
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  Speaker 1: that it wasn't our military, as the boys had been speculating,
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  Speaker 1: which meant, of course, that this was a spaceship of
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  Speaker 1: some kind. So then and there the boys vowed to
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  Speaker 1: try and meet these men from the UFO, and they
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  Speaker 1: began to return regularly to the spot, but as before,
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  Speaker 1: there was no sign of it until one day a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks later, it was there again. Amazing is that
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  Speaker 1: already we're seeing a very early report of what we
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  Speaker 1: would call the oz effect, with this eerie stillness surrounding
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  Speaker 1: a UFO event. Super interesting is their report of this
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  Speaker 1: force field that kept them away from the craft. There
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  Speaker 1: are quite a few reports like this, but this, I
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  Speaker 1: think is the first one of its kind. Such a
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  Speaker 1: shame that their parents weren't more receptive, but I'm very
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  Speaker 1: glad they did find a gentleman in town who had
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  Speaker 1: had his own encounter and was able to reassure them
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  Speaker 1: that things like this do happen. And again, this is
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  Speaker 1: just the beginning. They were soon to have much more
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  Speaker 1: dramatic encounters. So let's move to the next second, which
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  Speaker 1: I call the third encounter. As they had now grown
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  Speaker 1: into the habit of doing, they chris crossed the valley
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  Speaker 1: where the UFO had twice landed, hoping to see it
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  Speaker 1: again and wondering what it was about this valley that
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  Speaker 1: was of such great interest to these space people. To
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  Speaker 1: their delight, the craft appeared overhead and descended slowly and
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  Speaker 1: silently to the ground. As the lights stopped flashing, they
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  Speaker 1: walked closer, and this time they were able to approach
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  Speaker 1: to only about eight hundred feet away before they hit
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  Speaker 1: this now familiar invisible barrier. Once again, an opening appeared
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  Speaker 1: in the craft. The ramps slid down, and several of
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  Speaker 1: the men walked out and began to study the environment
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  Speaker 1: as they always had. This time, the boys tried waving
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  Speaker 1: and shouting to draw their attention, but the men seemed
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  Speaker 1: absolutely oblivious. To their presence. Mike suggested that it was
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  Speaker 1: perhaps because the sun was behind the boys and the
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  Speaker 1: men couldn't actually see them, but Leo knew that they
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  Speaker 1: were close enough to the men that the men had
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  Speaker 1: to see them, and somehow he just knew that the
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  Speaker 1: men were ignoring them so as not to frighten them.
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  Speaker 1: As it got darker, they decided that they had to
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  Speaker 1: return home. Mike really wanted to stay longer, but Leo,
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  Speaker 1: being older, knew that they would both get in trouble
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  Speaker 1: if they stayed after dark, and neither of them wanted
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  Speaker 1: to incur the wrath of their parents and perhaps be
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  Speaker 1: grounded and not be able to go to this field,
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  Speaker 1: so they returned home. The next day. They searched the
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  Speaker 1: field for any sign of the craft, but there was none,
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  Speaker 1: which was really strange in itself. They really thought that
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  Speaker 1: there should be landing traces, but there was none. And
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  Speaker 1: returning day after day and seeing no sign of the craft,
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  Speaker 1: they wondered if perhaps maybe they were going crazy and
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  Speaker 1: just seeing things. But their curiosity always went over their fear,
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  Speaker 1: and they returned repeatedly. Almost always it was not there.
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  Speaker 1: But their patience was soon rewarded when a few weeks later,
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  Speaker 1: the craft was back again. It was always late afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Third encounter. It was clear to both of the boys
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  Speaker 1: that this was something really, really unusual. They were super
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. This was the biggest thing easily that
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  Speaker 1: had ever happened to them. They felt very certain that
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  Speaker 1: these ET's. At that point, they weren't even sure if
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  Speaker 1: they were ET's, but whoever these people were, were absolutely
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  Speaker 1: aware of them, and they had the very strong feeling
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  Speaker 1: that they were friendly. So both of them were eager
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  Speaker 1: to actually have a face to face encounter, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what they were pushing for. So they were just trying
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  Speaker 1: to get closer and closer to these ET's. They were
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  Speaker 1: very persistent, and their patients paid off because soon they
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  Speaker 1: would have the fourth encounter. The boys hiked to the valley,
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  Speaker 1: and this time the craft was already there. They crept
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  Speaker 1: down the hill until they hit this forest field and
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  Speaker 1: then just sat down to watch. Now, as they did,
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  Speaker 1: they saw a rabbit leap towards the craft. It too
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  Speaker 1: hit the barrier, bounced off and ran away in the
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  Speaker 1: other direction, So they now knew for sure that they
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  Speaker 1: weren't imagining this force field. Both boys watched the same
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  Speaker 1: events occur, the door opening, the ramp coming down, the
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  Speaker 1: men exiting the craft, and studying the environment. So by
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  Speaker 1: now they were becoming increasingly convinced that the men were
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  Speaker 1: spacemen from other worlds. But still they wondered. As Leo says,
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  Speaker 1: we got a peaceful feeling from them. Their movements near
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  Speaker 1: the ship were peaceful and purposeful. I got the feeling
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  Speaker 1: they probably were making a survey of some kind. But
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  Speaker 1: this time something new happened. They watched the men enter
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  Speaker 1: into the craft. The lights began flashing, and they felt
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  Speaker 1: the ground actually vibrating. This time, they heard a loud hum,
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  Speaker 1: which suddenly stopped, and the craft immediately lifted up. The
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  Speaker 1: colored lights began flashing. The craft got about ten feet
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  Speaker 1: above the ground, then darted off so fast it looked
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  Speaker 1: almost as though it had disappeared into thin air. This
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  Speaker 1: was the only time so far that they had seen
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  Speaker 1: it leave. They wished that they had a camera so
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  Speaker 1: they could prove this to people, but their family was
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  Speaker 1: far too poor at that time to own a camera.
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  Speaker 1: But both themselves becoming increasingly obsessed with this craft and
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  Speaker 1: these strange people. It's all they talked about. They tried
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  Speaker 1: again to convince their parents, both who listened and again
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  Speaker 1: told them that they were just imagining things. They tried
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  Speaker 1: telling their friends and other kids in town who were
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  Speaker 1: equally unreceptive, and being of German ancestry, they were sometimes
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  Speaker 1: mistreated by the other kids in town who kind of
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  Speaker 1: shunned them because they were a little different. So they
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  Speaker 1: ended up speaking with mister Brooks again, who again reassured
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  Speaker 1: them that he believed them and not to worry about
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  Speaker 1: what other people thought. So they continued to hike to
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  Speaker 1: what they now called Spaceship Valley, and they were continually
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  Speaker 1: dis to see that this craft and these men were
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  Speaker 1: not there. But then one early evening in late August,
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  Speaker 1: their patience was again rewarded with another astonishing encounter. Fourth
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  Speaker 1: encounter was incredibly amazing to both the boys, but it
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  Speaker 1: was also somewhat stressful. They were still wondering could they
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  Speaker 1: be going crazy, but now seeing that rabbit actually hit
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  Speaker 1: the force field, that confirmed to them that it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just them feeling this. They did again try talking to people,
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  Speaker 1: as we see, but we're not getting really any good
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  Speaker 1: reception from people. It was becoming clear to them that
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  Speaker 1: nobody was going to believe them and that they were
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  Speaker 1: on their own with this, but they weren't going to
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  Speaker 1: give up. They were getting closer and closer. And then
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  Speaker 1: came another encounter, and events really ramped up this time.
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  Speaker 1: So now we moved to the next segment, which I
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  Speaker 1: call the fifth encounter. They were at the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the hill getting ready to exploor spaceship valley this time
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  Speaker 1: when the craft appeared in the sky and slowly settled
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  Speaker 1: to the ground, And this time it was closer than
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  Speaker 1: ever before, maybe about two hundred or three hundred feet away,
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  Speaker 1: and something really unusual happened, As Leo says, as the
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  Speaker 1: ship approached the ground, we found ourselves immersed in the
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  Speaker 1: invisible field of force. It came over us like a
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  Speaker 1: flood of water that got thicker and thicker as the
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  Speaker 1: ship dropped lower and lower until we could not move.
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  Speaker 1: As before, we couldn't get any closer, and now we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get out. We were caught inside the shell of
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  Speaker 1: force and were unable to free ourselves no matter how
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  Speaker 1: hard we tried to wriggle or strain. So at that
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  Speaker 1: point they just gave up trying to escape. Neither felt
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  Speaker 1: any real fear at first, just wonder and awe as
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  Speaker 1: the amazing door opened and the men emerged, and it
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  Speaker 1: was clear to them that the men knew about them
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  Speaker 1: and would not hurt them, But being trapped as they were,
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  Speaker 1: they did feel a sense of panic and fear. So
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  Speaker 1: the door opened, the men emerged, and as always the
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  Speaker 1: men ignored them, but again both were certain that the
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  Speaker 1: men knew they were there. Both felt a very strong
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  Speaker 1: sense of being watched by them, and they were now
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  Speaker 1: close enough to see that the men were talking to
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  Speaker 1: each other, and again both had the very strong impression
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  Speaker 1: that these visitors were studying our planet and were in
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  Speaker 1: fact concerned about the grasshopper invasion, the crop failures, and
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  Speaker 1: some of the invasive plants that were taking over the environment.
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  Speaker 1: So they were trapped there well beyond sunset, and both
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  Speaker 1: were very nervous about coming home in the dark. They
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  Speaker 1: were afraid they were going to get in trouble, and
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  Speaker 1: at that very moment, as if the ets were reading
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  Speaker 1: their minds, the force field released them and they went
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  Speaker 1: straight home, to their great relief. Their parents, totally out
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  Speaker 1: of character, said nothing. By now, they were mature enough
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  Speaker 1: with their experiences that they told nobody else they knew
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  Speaker 1: no one believe them. It was their secret, and that's
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  Speaker 1: just the way it was amazing. Is that seeing this
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  Speaker 1: UFL come down and then being stuck in the force
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  Speaker 1: field itself, not being able to move. This was obviously
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  Speaker 1: and understandably quite frightening for the two boys, but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time they still felt this overwhelming peace and
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  Speaker 1: friendliness coming from these beings. Was clear to them by
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  Speaker 1: this point that they these beings were probably extraterrestrials was
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  Speaker 1: simply the only explanation which fit. But now the contacts
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  Speaker 1: were getting so close that this was becoming the single
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing on their minds at all times. Both of
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  Speaker 1: them were starting to talk about subjects that were well
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  Speaker 1: beyond their age, and they couldn't wait to have another encounter,
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  Speaker 1: and sure enough, events would soon escalate. I call this
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  Speaker 1: next segment the sixth and it was only three days later,
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  Speaker 1: on August twenty eighth, nineteen thirty two, that Leo and
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  Speaker 1: Mike returned to the valley and they had their sixth
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  Speaker 1: encounter with the space people. It was already approaching evening
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  Speaker 1: when they arrived and the craft was already there. This time,
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  Speaker 1: they walked within one hundred feet before they felt this
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  Speaker 1: familiar force field stop them, so they got their best
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  Speaker 1: look the men. Ever, they could now see that these
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  Speaker 1: men were very slender, very good looking, and except for
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  Speaker 1: the strange jumpsuits, looked entirely human. They all looked very
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  Speaker 1: much alike, almost like twins. They looked quite young, they
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  Speaker 1: had no facial hair. Again, they tried waving at the
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  Speaker 1: men and calling out to them, but again got no response.
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  Speaker 1: The men just continued their mysterious behavior of poking at
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  Speaker 1: the ground, picking things up, and conversing among themselves. Mike
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  Speaker 1: grew impatient, and this time he started jumping up and down,
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  Speaker 1: screaming and shaking the bushes to get their attention, and
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  Speaker 1: of course it did. As Leo says, that did it.
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  Speaker 1: Several of them were looking directly at us. Now I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to thump him on the head. We found ourselves
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  Speaker 1: enveloped again by that silent, invisible wave that locked us
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  Speaker 1: into place. So Leo told him, I hope you're happy
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  Speaker 1: now they have us stuck like a cow in a mudhole. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Mike said sobornly. At least they know we're here. So
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  Speaker 1: as darkness settled, the men returned to the craft, which
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  Speaker 1: took off as before, and immediately the force field dissipated
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  Speaker 1: and released the boys, so they ran home. The next morning,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: they returned and inspected the valley and again were very
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: puzzled to find no sign of the men or the craft.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: They returned home, but knowing that the ship usually returned
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon, they went back the same day because
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: by now both Leo and Mike began to sense when
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this craft would be there and when it wouldn't, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: most often they were correct. So they stopped visiting constantly
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and would only go when they sensed the the craft
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: would be there, and, to their amazement, as they had suspected,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: after just a short weight on the hill, the craft
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: approached and landed again. Boys felt like the sixth and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Connor was a little bit of a set back. They
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: wondered if perhaps they had made a mistake pushed too hard,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: but they were not going to give up. They knew
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: by now that this UFO was showing up at certain times.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: In fact, they started to get a sense of when
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it would show up. Certainly they knew it was coming
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon, but it was more than that. They
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: started to really feel when it might be around, so
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: they would continually hike to spaceship valley to see if
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: this UFO was there, and of course it would be
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: on some occasions, sometimes not. But things were about to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: get even more intense when they had their seventh encounter.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: This time they were high on the hilltop when the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: craft landed and they immediately approached. But this time they
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: hit the force field almost immediately, and this was quite
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: upsetting to them. They wondered if perhaps Mike's behavior the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: previous day had caused the Eetes to become more wary,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: or if the spacemen even cared about two little German
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: farm boys who kept pestering them as they were trying
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to survey the valley. But still they waved, and to
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: their delight, this time the men responded. The men waved back,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but then continued on with their strange activities. So this
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: was very heartening to the boys, and both felt that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: sooner or later these men would let them come closer
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and maybe even go on their ship. The men continued
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to wander around, seemingly randomly, and then one by one
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: returned to the ship, all except one, who, to their amazement,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: began to approach them. As Leo says, he came quite
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: close to us, maybe ten or twelve feet away. Whatever
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was holding us seemed to have no effect upon him.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: He looked directly at us and smiled in a peaceful
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and friendly way, raising his hand with the open palm
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: towards us. Then he turned and walked directly back to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the ramp and entered the ship. The door then closed,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and suddenly the force field released. The boys were tempted
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to run towards the craft, but decided it was better
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to be on their best behavior and impress the men,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: who they felt were still watching them, though they decided
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that they would not interfere with the men unless they
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: were actually invited. These repeated encounters consumed the boy's attention.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: By this time they began to talk of subjects well
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: beyond their years. This, of course, caught the attention of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: their parents, who began to question them about it, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: once again Leo and Mike shared their series of encounters,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and this time their parents took them seriously, but after listening,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: advised them not to speak to others about it, as
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: they would not understand. But they decided that they would
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: speak with mister Brooks again, who encouraged them to try
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to achieve their goal of meeting the spacemen and going
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on board their craft. So several days later they went
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to the spaceship valley in the afternoon, and sure enough
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: there was the craft, and this time they would have
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: their closest encounter yet It is were a bit disappointed
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that they weren't able to get closer during this encounter,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and yeah, they felt like perhaps they had pushed too far.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But what's super interesting is that this was the first
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: time the ETS officially recognized their presence and waved back,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: so that was definitely a step forward, and they were
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: soon to have a contact that would change everything. This
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: time they actually were able to speak to the ETS,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so I called this next one the eighth encounter face
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to face contact, and now things were going to change drastically.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Reaching the hill, Leo and Mike were absolutely delighted to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: see the craft had already landed and the spacemen were
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: milling around, so they walked forward, and to their amazement,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this time there was no force fields stopping them. They
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: were able to walk right up to the craft and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the men until they were only ten feet away. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: they stood very still and very respectfully and just watched
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the men seemed both welcoming, but also did not at
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: first react to their presence. As Leo says, we just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: kind of stood there, watching, ready to run if they
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: yelled at us. We could hear no sounds in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: strange stillness. So near the tremendous ship this close we
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: were nearly overwhelmed by its huge dimensions. So they got
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: their best look ever at the men. They could now
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: see that these guys had light brown hair, a beige
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: complexion as though well tanned blue eyes. They didn't notice
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: their shoes had no laces or buttons on them. Their
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: clothes looked normal enough, but very clean and of a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: strange shimmery fabric. They wore thin gloves on their hands,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: but again, all looked very similar in appearance. As Leo says,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: these men were alike as keys in a pod. They
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: occasionally looked at us and smiled, and then continued with
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: their exercises. There were three of them, and they stood
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there and looked at us. Their smile was like ours,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: probably more gentle and relaxed than ours. May be more
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: gentle than any smile I have ever seen. So it
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was Mike, the younger brother, who finally worked up his
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: courage and spoke out loud to them in a mixture
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of German and English, and at first there was no response,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but two of the men went back into the ship,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and the third guy walked straight up to them and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: said in German, I can speak your language. We speak
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: all languages of all the people on your planet. So
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: both boys had tons of questions they wanted to ask,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but they felt strangely tongue tied and could only get
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: out a few words. Leo ached with desire to go
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: on board the craft, but both boys just stood there,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: stunned and silent. Finally, one of the men approached and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: said again in German, boys, you have had quite an
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: experience with us. You have showed great determination in coming
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to visit us again and again. You have seen much,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you have learned much, and you know more about us
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: than most people in your world. No one will believe
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you when you tell them about us. Man then looked
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: at Leo straight in the eyes and said, not until
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you are an old man. No matter what you tell
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: them about us, they will still not believe you. In
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: your own minds, you will always know the truth about
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: what you have experienced and felt. So the man repeated
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the words in English, and then began to share even
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: more information with them. The man said, we are very real,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and we are from another galaxy. We have traveled to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: your planet for over five thousand years. We are from
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a place far beyond your world by millions of years
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of time. We continue traveling to your planet because it
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is part of our responsibility. We are showing you a
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: small part of what you can expect in the future.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You cannot learn everything at one time without rest. You
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: will see us before long. In the meantime, you must
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: go home and rest because your minds are not big
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: enough to learn everything as quickly as you would like. Remember,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you must believe what you have seen, and understand what
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you have learned, and try to understand that we are
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: not here to hurt anyone. The man then smiled stared
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: another few seconds. Leo managed to mumble a thank you
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and said that it was time to go home. The
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: man smiled and said, yes, it is. At this point,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the man returned to the craft. The boys left for home,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: their minds whirling. Both had many very strong impressions, as
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: if information had been downloaded into their minds. The men
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: they knew were far older than they appeared. Both felt
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: certain that the men could read their minds. They felt
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: certain that the spacemen were there because they cared about
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the health of the planet. Both boys also felt a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: very strong connection to the men, as if they almost
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: become a part of them. They knew that these guys
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: were very intelligent, very advanced, and peaceful and wise beyond understanding.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: The boys were somewhat overwhelmed by this very close encounter. Again,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: they kept it a secret, discussing it only to each
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: other now. Around this time, their life at the farm
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: became very busy and it was a few weeks before
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they had the opportunity to visit again. But on September nineteen,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: late in the afternoon, the opportunity arose, and both again
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: had the strange feeling that the craft would be there
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: when they arrived. Both felt certain that their opportunity to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: go inside the ship was coming very soon and it
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: was only a matter of time, and Mike were very
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: lucky they had each other. Being unable to talk to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: really anyone about this was very stressful, but they did
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: have each other to talk about and verify the events
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that were occurring, and both of them were incredibly excited.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Both felt like the time was coming that they would
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: get to go on board, and of course they were right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: That would happen with their next encounter, which I call
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the ninth encounter on board the craft, and this was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the ultimate UFO experience for the boys and really one
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of the most interesting on board encounters I've ever heard.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Arriving at Spaceship Valley, as they expected there was the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: craft was now dusk. The craft sat there in total silence.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: None of the men were visible, so Leo and Mike
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: cautiously approached again. There was no force field stopping them
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: as they walked right up next to the craft. Suddenly
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they noticed that two of the men were standing next
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to one of the landing legs supporting the craft. One
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of the men spoke to the other man and told him,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: these boys would like to touch our ship. Make sure
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it is well grounded, for we probably have developed some
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: electricity in our travels. The man then gestured to them
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to touch the craft. So they did touch, and both
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: were absolutely amazed because the craft felt smoother than glass.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: They could feel no heat nor cold, and in fact,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Leo said his hand slid across the surface almost as
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: if the craft wasn't even there, that's how smooth it was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: At this point, one of the men stepped forward and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: offered his hand to shake. Both boys shook the man's hand,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and Leo thought to himself, I sure would like to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: get into that ship, As if reading his mind, the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: man said, I think that can be arranged. The man
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: explained that first they would have to be decontaminated, that
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: they used light to accomplish this, and he began to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: explain many things. He explained how the magnetic force field
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: was able to keep them and others from approaching the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: craft without permission, and he told them that once they
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: entered the ship, quote, you will soon begin to see
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: things that will be coming to you in the next
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: thirty years. At this point, both boys felt again that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: information was being relayed directly into their minds telepathically, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: they weren't immediately aware of all this information. Both felt
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: all the men knew exactly what they were thinking. Leo
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: began to explain to the men about the droughts in
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the area, the insect problem, the economic depression, the political
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: unrest that was brewing in Europe. The men seemed to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: understand and in fact were communicating these exact things to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the boys, making it clear to them both that humanity
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was in for very difficult times ahead. In fact, they
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: felt that these men were communicating these very ideas that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: they were bringing up, and, as Leo says, they gave
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: us the indication that man would soon bring terrible wars
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and suffering upon himself. Now, neither of them realized it,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but both were being downloaded with information about the future,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: knowledge that would come back to them years later as
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the events the ets warned them about started happening. The
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: men warned them that humanity must have freedom in order
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to advance, and if freedom is taken away by corrupt leaders,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: people will revolt. They told the boys that taxes on
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the people were a huge burden and would cause people
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to start resisting their governments, which will lead to social upheavals.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: They predicted that there would be a civil rights conflict
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: between white and black people. They said that government corruption
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: was the root of humanity's social problem. Now the boys
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: had still not entered the ship. At this point, both
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: were overwhelmed somewhat by all this quote adult talk, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they began to get really impatient to enter the craft. Finally,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: as if reading their minds. The ramp came down and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the men escorted the boys up. They walked through an
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: outer door, and this beam of light came down, and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: this was the beam of light that disinfected them got
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: rid of all the germs. After that, both boys were
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: told to remove their infected earth clothes and were given
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: special clothes by the Ets, which amazed the boys because
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: these new clothes seemed to magically sort of wrap around
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: their bodies. All the scenes disappeared once these new clothes
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: were on. Only then were they allowed through the inner
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: door into the interior of the craft. Inside they were
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: amazed to see that the interior was very bright and clean.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: There were no visible light fixtures. The first thing they
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: noticed were the chairs, which adjusted to fit their bodies
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and would turn towards them whenever they sat down. All
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you had to do was point at the chair and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it would swing towards you. So Mike was delighted by
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: this and began playing with the chair, trying to outwit it,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: much to the great amusement of the ets. Leo saw
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that there was a rectangular screen about five feet wide
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: four feet high, which showed images of places and processes
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: that Leo did not recognize or even understand. On one wall,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: he saw what he would later compare to a computer,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: though of course, at that time there were no computers,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: so he didn't really understand what he was looking at.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: They were then taken to another room where they were
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: shown sleeping compartments with comfortable beds. They were taken to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: yet another room, which turned out to be a bathroom
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: with fully automated toilet facilities. They saw no towels or
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: tissues or anything like that. They were then taken to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: yet another room, much larger, which seemed to be some
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: kind of laboratory, filled with all kinds of alien equipment,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: which they could not describe or recognize in any way.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Leo asked them about it, and they replied, no matter
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: how we explained it to you, it would be impossible
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: for you to understand it. So Mike turned to them
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and asked them, why do you keep coming to our valley?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: They replied, we study the life patterns. At this point,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: they looked at the walls and were surprised to see
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that the walls were actually partially transparent and allowed them
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to see a view of the outside valley and the sky.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Most of The men continued to work busily and paid
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: little attention to the boys except for the two who
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: had escorted them onto the craft. So at this point
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: they went back into the main room with the chairs
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and sat down while one of the men explained to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: them about planets, stars and galaxies. As the men continued
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to explain things, suddenly there was this weird shift, and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: both boys found themselves outside on the hill being shown
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: how grasshoppers lay their eggs in the dirt. This may
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: have been a telepathic image, but it seemed to them
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: like they were outside. This they knew was one of
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the things that the spacemen were studying in their little valley.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But a moment later they were back in the chair,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: this time being taught more about galaxies and magnetics. The
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: ets showed them that they had the ability to stop
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a bird and mid flight, and actually demonstrated this for them.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: They explained that this ability was to protect them from
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: unwanted outside influences, and that if they didn't want anyone
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to approach their craft, they would not be able to.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: They told Leo and Mike that they were continuing to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: visit this planet, which would find itself in increasingly turbulent conditions.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: The ETS told them a few other enigmatic things. They
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: said that they use twelve senses. They said that there
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: were twelve of them who live full time on Earth
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and have offered to help our world many times and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: were quote rejected every time. They also said that there
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: were twelve galaxies populated and working together for the betterment
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of all. The number twelve seemed to come up a lot,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: which puzzled Leo, But as Leo says, these people from
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: another world must be asked and must be made welcome
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: before they will give advice. They said that if we
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: eliminate things that are harmful to our bodies, we can
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: increase our lifespan up to two hundred and fifty or
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: three hundred years. So the boys estimate that they spent
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: about one to two hours on board the craft. Both
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the boys said that they had learned all they could
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: at this time, and the Ets agreed because at times,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Leo said he found it hard to distinguish his own
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: thoughts from those of the Ets, that's how closely they
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: were communicating telepathically. So as they got ready to go,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the Ets assured the boys that they would meet again
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: following this contact Leo and Mike did not have any
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: more major encounters for a pretty long time. They did
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: continue to see the UFOs on and off over the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: next few months, almost always at the same location. Experience
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: was transformative for both the boys. This would affect them
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives and it would not
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: be their last encounter. It would be Mike's last on
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: board encounter. From this point on, Leo seemed to be
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the main focus of contact, and it wasn't long before
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: he was taken on board again. So I call this
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: next segment on board Again. In nineteen thirty three, Leo
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: did see the craft land southeast of nearby Dunn Center
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: again in North Dakota, and he said it visited that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: area several times. But in nineteen thirty six, Leo, now
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: aged sixteen, saw the ship land and he decided to approach.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: This time, his brother was not with him. The Etes
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: must have anticipated his arrival because once again he was
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: not hindered by any force field. It was the same
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: craft and three of the ets were outside waiting for him.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: He said it felt like it was meeting old friends.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He did not have to ask to come on board.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: They immediately invited him in again. He had to go
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: through the whole disinfecting, but inside the ets again talked
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: about their concern for our planet. As Leo says, they said,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the world would have many problems. They would not interfere
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  Speaker 1: in any way with our handling of these difficulties. They
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: reaffirmed that this planet was their concern, that man had
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: his own mind, that he must learn to take care
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of his planet if he wants to keep his home.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: One other strange thing they confirmed was what my mother
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: said before she died, that I would be the last
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: surviving member of my family. They said I would see
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the world in a lot of trouble before the year
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: two thousand. It did not provide any other information about
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that particular onboard experience. Honestly, I think he could have
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: written an entire book on each one of these single encounters,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: because these were not short, little onboard encounters where someone's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: taken into a craft and physically examined. That's not the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: nature of this contact at all. It's a very friendly, interactive,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: benevolent contact with human looking ets. Really extraordinary, and from
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: this point on Leo continued to have many more encounters.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: So I call this next segment more encounters, despite the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: fact that the ETS had warned them repeatedly that no
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: one would believe them, or perhaps because of it, over
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and over again, thirty or forty times, both Leo and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Mike tried sharing their experiences with others, and not once
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: were they taken seriously did anyone truly believe them. In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight, Leo, now eighteen years old, was driving
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: near Watford City close to the Missouri River Bridge two
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: miles south and a mile and a half west of
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the bridge so you can see the approximate location here,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and he saw the spaceship sitting on the ground in
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a field off the road. He pulled off the road
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and walked up to the ship and met with the ets.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: He held a conversation with them about the state of
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the planet. Was One year later, September fifteen, nineteen thirty nine,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Leo is now nineteen. He was driving to Watford when
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he saw the craft about two thousand feet in the air.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: He was directed to turn off onto a dirt road.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: He followed it down for about three and a half
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: miles and came upon the craft sitting three hundred feet
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: off the side of the road. As he walked up
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to it. The door opened, two figures emerged, waving at him.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: As he approached. One of the figures put his hand
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: on Leo's shoulder in their customary greeting, and said, it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is good to see you again. The other one said,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: we always look forward to seeing you. We feel you
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: respect us deeply. That, as far as Leo concerned, was
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: a huge understatement, because he considered them his very close friends.
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  Speaker 1: One of the men said, you have changed quite a
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: bit since nineteen thirty two, and Leo replied, I have
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: noticed no change in you at all. I don't quite
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: understand this, but it does not really concern me. But
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the e t answered his question and said, we are
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: several thousand years ahead of your time. We are germ free,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and our life expectancy is quite different from yours. At
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: this time, it would be impossible for us to explain
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: to you how we have accomplished all this in our lives.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: These things you would not understand, but we can assure
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you if your scientists would devote their time to increasing
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: your life span, people on Earth would be capable of
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: living in good health much longer than you do now.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: So Leo, noticing that the was very bright. He asked
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: them if they were not worried about being observed, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the Ets replied that they had stopped all movement for
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: three miles around the craft, and they said it will
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: be some time well in the future before people will
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: be able to understand and do much, if any, of
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: what we are capable of doing. Now, this new understanding
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: will make a tremendous change on your planet Earth. So
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they then invited Leo into the craft again. Once again,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: he went through the same decontamination process. Leo told them,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I understand and I am not as scared as my
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: brother and I were back then. The man smiled and said,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: we will never forget those two frightened children that approached
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: us back then. We knew you were there and tried
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to handle and treat you in such a way that
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the two of you would not be frightened. We knew
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: your thoughts and understood your determination and your belief that
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we do exist. You must always continue to have faith
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: in yourself, for faith and determination are your future. So
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: after decontamination, Theo was handed the et clothes, which he
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: put on and they formed to his body. He went
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: in and saw the familiar chairs and the large screen
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: with the enigmatic images on it. This time he asked
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: them about the image, and they said, the image comes
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: from our galaxy, which is many millions of miles away.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: It is only meaningful to us in our work here.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Do not waste your effort in trying to understand it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So Leo then asked them how they were able to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: illuminate the craft without lights, and they explained that the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: metal of the craft itself is luminous. So they talked
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: for a while until it became late and it was
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: time for Leo to leave. One by one, each of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the six men said goodbye by placing their hand on
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Leo's shoulder, and he did the same to them. He
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: explained that it was dark and he would surely stumble
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: in the darkness on the way to his car, and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: one of the men told him, we will take care
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: of that problem. Leo exited the craft, walked down the ramp.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: He savored his last moments of touching the craft and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: walked off. This is when he noticed that the ground
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: before him was illuminated with a mysterious light, guiding his
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: path to his car. Turning around, once he reached the car,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the craft was no longer visible, and he drove off.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It was soon after this, as the ETS had predicted,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that World War II broke out. Leo joined the Navy,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and Mike, when he was old enough, joined the army.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: In nineteen forty eight, Leo was discharged and moved back
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to the Kildeer area. He occasionally saw the craft but
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: did not attempt contact. In nineteen fifty he moved to Bozeman, Montana,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and spotted the ship occasionally. Mike, very sadly, was killed
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: in action that year. This of course affected the family profoundly,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but especially Leo, who lost the only person who shared
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: their encounters. Years later, in nineteen sixty two, now Mary
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: with three young daughters aged eight and under, the ship
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: appeared again. They were driving and after maneuvering to follow
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the craft, they came upon it, hovering about two hundred
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: feet away and twenty feet off the ground, flashing with
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: colored lights. Leo's three daughters and their two young friends
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: immediately became very frightened by this sight, which disappointed Leo
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because he wanted his family to see this, so they
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: watched it for almost an hour. He actually flashed his
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: headlights at the object, but finally because his daughters and
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: their friends were so scared he drove off. One year later,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: he spotted the craft while driving between Ennis and Sappington Junction.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: This time another car stopped and watched. A husband and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: his wife got out and watched wide eyed as the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: ship began to land. Leo offered the husband to follow
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: him to the craft that the husband became very frightened,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: said he'd seen them before, he did not want to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: see them again, and drove off again. Leo was disappointed
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that nobody seemed to be able to understand or share
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: these encounters with him. The ets had predicted, as they
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: had told Leo, he would have a real difficult time
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: sharing his encounter with others, and that's absolutely the truth.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Everyone he spoke to did not believe him. Yes, his
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: parents did take him seriously at this point, but didn't
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: show the same kind of interest that certainly he did.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Very sad that his brother passed away because this left
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Leo all alone in the world in terms of somebody
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: who could share his encounters with. So this became his
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: very special private secret. He did start sharing it with
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: his family, but attempts to bring other people into the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: contacts were met with failure. So this was very frustrating
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: for him, and as the years passed, he's had less encounters,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: but he did I'd have one amazing final encounter, which
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: is truly astonishing, and I called this one the final encounter.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: In the night of October twenty first, nineteen sixty three, Leo,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: now forty three years old, had his final encounters with
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the extra Trestrills. He was driving again near Ennis and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Sappington junction when missing them and suddenly feeling their presence,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: he returned to the area where he had seen the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: craft land earlier, and sure enough, there it was. There
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: were six people moving around the craft. Two approached him,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and one greeted them in their way by putting their
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: hand on his shoulder and said, it has been many
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: years since we last saw one another. Leo smiled and said, yes,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it has been quite a while. They explained that they
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: had seen him on the highway with the couple one
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: year earlier, trying to convince the man to come and
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: see them firsthand, and they were hoping the man would follow.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: They told Leo, this man he knew of our existence,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: he had seen us before. Instead of believing in us,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: he allowed his fear to convince him that we are
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: a threat. He prefers to think that we do not exist.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: He has closed his mind to everything. Why people continued
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to fear us, we do not know. So the ET
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: invited Leo back to the ship. The other five men
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: approached and made the customary greeting, and as one they said,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: it is the most welcome sight to see you again.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: We regret that your brother cannot be here with us.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: We enjoyed him very much, and said the craft Leo
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: felt right at home. He saw the familiar chairs and screen.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: He sat down and spoke with them very casually. They
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: talked about his attempt to show his daughters and express
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: regret that the girls had been too frightened. One of
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: them told Leo that in the last three years, the
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: people of Earth were trying to learn how to detect
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and capture their craft, and he told them, your science
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and technology have advanced enough to pose a threat to
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: our ships as well as to the planet, and that
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: this point. They actually showed him an image of an
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: atomic explosion. As the ET said, if your military leaders
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: continue their efforts to damage our ships, we will be
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: forced to defend ourselves. Although we have been seriously provoked.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: We will not treat man like he treats us. Our
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: actions to protect and defend ourselves are governed by a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: simple principle. Anything that is thrown at us will be
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: thrown back to its source. So they told him many things.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: They told him that they believed that this would likely
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: happen in the future, this atomic explosion. They made it
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: clear that the people of Earth were traveling down an
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: irreversible pathway towards self destruction, which very much saddened them.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Finally the meeting was over, they left the craft. They
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: stood outside for some moments watching the stars, and told
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: him that they would not see each other for quite
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: some time as they were returning to their home, but
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that later a larger ship would be returning to the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: area in nineteen seventy one through nineteen seventy three. They
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: departed as old friends again. They lit the way back
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to his car, and, to Leo's amazement, even started the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: car for him. Once in his car, he turned around
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and there was no sign of the craft, and again
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: this turned out to be his last encounter, but the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: effects of their visit would last for the rest of
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: his life. As Leo says, As the years then have
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: gone by, everything they told us has happened, though sometimes
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: with strange and unexpected twists. How they knew these things
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: in advance, I do not know. So Leo does have
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: one final message from the Ets, as he says, their
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: actions and behavior were always calm and considerate. I cannot
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: imagine one of them making a mistake in anything. They
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: are perfect role models the kind of people each of
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: us would like to be when we grow up. That
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: is one of their most important messages. Mankind must grow
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: up and mature to be entitled to possess their knowledge
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and abilities. I know they are very concerned about our
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: nuclear and chemical weapons and our warlike nature. So growing up,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Leo and his family did experience a lot of bigotry
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: and discrimination and greed from other people. But as Leo writes,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: we did not experience discrimination, suspicion, greed, and hatred when
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: we were with these people from the stars. That is
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the most important thing I can tell you about them.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: They are kind and understanding and love us in spite
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of our dangerous behavior. These great men willingly took the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: time to speak to two grubby little farm kids in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: North Dakota and changed our Lives Forever. Gill agree that
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: is one of the most astonishing UFO contact cases on record.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Leo Dwarshach thankfully did write a book about it in
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. It's called UFOs Are with Us?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Take my word? And when I saw this book, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: knew I had to get a copy. It's truly an
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: incredible book. It's quite short and written in a very
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: sort of sparse style, very direct, but absolutely astonishing. He
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: tells his story with incredible honesty and sincerity. I enjoyed
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the book very much. I cannot recommend it enough. I
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: was only really able to cover a tiny portion of
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the things that he's learned, so I think you'll learn
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a lot more if you do have the chance to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: read this book. I was so impressed by the book
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that I actually wrote to Leo and we enjoyed a
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: brief correspondence together. I urged him to send the book
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to the mouf On UFO Journal so it could get
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: a review, because I really felt that this book deserved
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a much wider audience, and to my delight, he did,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and in the next issue of the Moufon Journal, the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: editor Dwight Connolly devoted an unheard of three page long
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: review of the book, so he was clearly impressed. And
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: this did lead to more publicity because UK researcher Timothy Good,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite researchers, actually heard about the book
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and he actually traveled from England all the way to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Montana to meet Leo Dwarshak face to face, interview him,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: talk to his family. He got lots of confirmation of
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: this event from Leo's family and ended up covering Leo's
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: case in his book Earth and Alien Enterprise and devoted
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: in fact, the first chapter of his book to Leo's experiences.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: So this is a case that deserves a lot more publicity.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I hope you have a chance to check out the book. Sadly,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Leo passed away in April twan in seven. He was
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: eighty six years old, so he got this book out
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: just in time. He published it just four years earlier.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So very sad, but really glad that he did find
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the courage and the fortitude and strength to tell his
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: story publicly. So that's it for today. Thank you guys.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this episode. I truly appreciate your watching,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: searching for the truth most important of all, Keep having
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: fun and I will see you next time. Bye for now.