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Kathleen Ready Dayan - Before We Were Born · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
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fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
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Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
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fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited, our
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soulmate relationships real. Furthermore, if we choose to reincarnate with our soulmate,
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what challenges may we face and what lessons do we learn in the process.
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My guest this week one Destination Unlimited medium and author Kathleen Ready Dia, developed
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a deeper understanding of soulmates and reincarnation from her spirit guides. Ten years ago,
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Kathleen was working as a lawyer and writing in her spirit time. Some
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personal losses led her on a spiritual journey that ultimately resulted in her being able
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to channel the spirits of her loved ones and also spirit guides and teachers.
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The information she received changed her perspective and her life, and she left the
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practice of law to write novels based on the principles she had learned. Her
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website is Kathleen Ready Diane dot com, and she joins me this week to
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share her path and new novel about the challenges and blessings of soulmate relationships before
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we were born. Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited. Kathleen Ready,
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Diane, Welcome, Kathleen, Hi, Victor. Thank you so much
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for having me, and thank you so much for joining us and sharing your
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wonderful story and amazing experience. So please share with us your early path and
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the events that shaped your life. Well, I'd have to start by saying,
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I am the youngest of five girls, and my parents were really wonderful
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parents, and they raised us. I think they were the first feminists,
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you know, certainly the first that I knew. But they raised us with
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the idea that we can do anything. And you know, I just felt
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empowered from the time I was a child to try different things and to go
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in different directions. I think that is important because I have changed paths many
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times along the way. That was the first, you know, really important
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thing for my childhood. And did you have any experiences with psychic phenomena when
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you were a child, You know, I'm looking back, I can remember
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having dreams of my grandparents who had passed, but I didn't recognize them as
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anything psychic or you know, as any form of mediumship. I understand now
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you were a lawyer and a business owner. How did your transition from those
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roles into author and medium? Well, um, I was practicing law when
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I when I developed my mediumship, and it was really over a course of
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years through practice of meditation and um, you know, just different you know,
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spiritual practices I employed, UM, my husband and I our partners and
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all this and our spiritual education, and we started, you know, trying
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to communicate with spirit and we had been introduced to you know, many mediums
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who gave us really wonderful messages and you know, and then we also had
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an opportunity to try table tipping um and that you know was a form of
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physical mediumship. And when that happened, that made us really want to go
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deeper and to be able to speak to people who we had lost. I
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have lost both my parents now, but at that time I had lost my
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mom at a young age and also my sister and my husband had lost his
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dad at a young age. And we were really drawn to this and we
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started practicing you know, meditation with intention, you know, asking for help
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with opening up you know, the third eye, and then we started table
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tipping on our own and over a course of really in the beginning it was
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very fast because I was very intense about this, and I started seeing spirit
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lights, and I started, you know, seeing outlines of spirits in our
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home, and sometimes I'd wake up and I'd see someone standing at the end
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of the bed. I mean, it was it was really like a phenomenal,
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you know, fascinating time in our lives. And then the two of
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us working together, Um, you know, initially we were using a table
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that would go back and forth and give us messages, which is table tipping,
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and then um, you know, slowly I began to hear what the
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spirits were saying, and with even a little more time, they started to
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come right through and speak right through my mouth. And that is them,
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you know. Really the backbone of our spiritual experiences is having this direct contact
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with these you know, family and friends in the spirit world, and also
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with guides and teachers. So my my pull towards practicing law went away real
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quick, Victor. It was just it was not compelling anymore. This was
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something that was it brought so much meaning to our lives, and we already
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had a wonderful life. Don't get me wrong, um, but this is
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this shifted everything. It changed our path. We had so much more peace,
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we had hope, We had a feeling of again, of empowerment,
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which I think is an important thing when you're about to change your path,
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because we felt like we were able to talk to our spirit family and they
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were able to, you know, to let us know that they were they
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were doing just fine. You know, they were in a different plane of
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existence, but they were still existing just as much as we are. And
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that it it changes the way you see the world absolutely. For our listeners
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not familiar with a session, please just describe what a table tipping session is
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like, Okay, sure, yeah, So there's this like a small pedestal
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table, just like something you'd see there. Most of them are like the
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old fashioned ones, like we picked one up in a antique store to use,
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but they're probably like twenty inches around something like that. Something you can
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even do smaller, but just room for you to put your fingers on it.
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And it's a group, a small group of people that sit around the
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circle and you put your hands on it and you set an intention of communicating
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with people in the spirit world. And you know, sometimes it takes a
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little bit to get it to move. But what eventually happens is it it
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begins to vibrate the table and you can feel it under your fingers. It's
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starting to vibrate and then um, you know, if if you have the
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if you make a good connection and the energy is coming through, the table
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will start to rock. And we've actually witnessed the table get up and basically
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your hands are still on it, but it's moving around the room. It's
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it's a it's a it's it's a mind blowing thing to see. But what
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would happen is when we were first exploring all these ways of communication, the
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table would tap out a message by you know, if it was if the
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first letter of the word was an A. It would just go once and
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then it would stop. So we'd start. It was kind of a slow
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process, but we would write down the messages. My husband recorded, like,
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you know, a notebooks full of information that came from spirit and some
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of it was from the early days of table tipping, and then later when
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we sort of moved away from even using that using a table or anything like
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it. You know, it's also very similar to automatic writing. If anybody
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you know out there has tried that, but just allowing the spirit to come
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in and line up with me and then speak to us. Now, you
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had mentioned Claire buoyance being able to see spirit and energy, Claire audience being
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able to hear which other Claire's open for you, and please describe how you
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recognize them. Okay, So the first thing I experienced was Claire sentience,
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which is when you're able to feel the touch of a spirit near you.
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From me, the first thing that I noticed was like a It feels like
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a spider web being dragged across your skin, across your arms or the tops
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of your hands. Also, it can be the feeling of electricity and your
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hair, as if you've just you know, walked across a carpet with your
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socks on, and you know, you get that electric feeling. For me,
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it feels like that. And I've also felt, you know, like
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a pressure, like particularly when I was my third eye was beginning to open,
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when I'd be going to sleep at night but you know, still wide
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awake, but first getting to bed, I would feel these pressures on uh,
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you know the top of my head and on my forehead, and I
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think it was, you know, people helping me to open up. Absolutely.
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One of the things that opened for me, strangely enough, in my
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late forties was clear old factants smelling and what had manifested for me every time
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I was getting communication. I started smelling roses and there were no roses anywhere
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inside, but that smell of roses was an indication to me that spirit was
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coming through. So what advice would you offer to listeners trying to recognize their
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own clares or develop them. Probably the most important thing is to trust your
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gut, you know, to sit quiet, and you know, I know
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a lot of people don't like meditation and I'm always not always great about it
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either, Victor. But just to sit quiet and just try to, you
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know, open up to because you know, everybody has a spirit guide,
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at least one guide is here with us, and often we have family members
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that are traveling, you know, that are staying close, and just try
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to be aware of their presence. Just very quietly, softly open up to
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that. And I think distrust it if you think, I imagine it was
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similar with you. When you started smelling the roses, you knew, you
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knew what it was, absolutely, yeah, you know it in your gut.
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Absolutely you had mentioned meditation. Many of our listeners have a regular practice
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of yoga and meditation. How does meditation help you open to that connection.
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I think it just clears a channel. Honestly, there there are ways that
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we block our channel. I'm a recovering alcoholic. I've been sober for you
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know, over thirty years. I had a you know, my teenage years
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were you know where I was sort of on a very different path. And
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um, when I got sober in my twenties, I I started having different
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I had some um, you know, past life remembrances. I have little
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flashes of dreams. As I was going to sleep, lots of things were
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starting to come to me. And I didn't understand why that was happening.
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But you know, after I had gone through some of these other things in
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my life and experienced some communication, I came to understand that that channel was
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completely blocked. And I had always had I had always had this ability,
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but I hadn't allowed it. And so you know, being able to me,
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it's it's meditation, but it's it's prayer. I you know, I
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am. I'm a big believer in prayer. I mean, just for I'm
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not, you know, telling anybody to do anything that doesn't feel right to
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them. It's just for me, it's an acknowledgement of you know, what
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we want to call if it's God, if it's you know, the God
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Force, so the Great Spirit. For me, it's that to understand that
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there is this enormous, enormous source of love and that's what God is to
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me. And so for me to stay on a good, clear path,
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I have to be remember to acknowledge that. And so you know, I
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do that as soon as I wake in the morning. The first thing I
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do is look out the window and express gratitude. I was just going to
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say, gratitude is also so important. Yes, it is. It's really
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a key to almost everything in life, isn't it. It is? It
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changes, it changes you know, the way, it's your perspective. I
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suppose absolutely. It makes you recognize the blessings in your life and be thankful
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for them. And I think if everyone did that, had practice of gratitude
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on a daily basis, their lives would be changed. Yes, now we'll
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be discussing your latest book before we were born, but please tell us about
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your earlier works. Okay, you know I started writing when I was you
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know, even like you know, as a young child, I used I
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always loved books and I love words, and so I've always been drawn to
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that. In my twenties, I wrote quite a bit of poetry and I
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had a little bit of poetry published, some short stories published, that kind
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of thing. But I didn't attempt a novel until after I got sober,
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and that was such a life changing event for me. I felt that I
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needed to write about it, and so I wrote this book. It's called
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la Ice and which is a term, a slang term for the drug methamphetamine.
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And it's about you know, these people who meet in a drug rehab
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and most of the book takes place there, and the focus is on how
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each of these people affect each other's lives. Meeting each other helps them to
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understand something about themselves and to you know, get to a better place.
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Hopefully, you know, not all of them do. But that was that
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was my first book. And you also wrote a book for kids, I
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did, Yes, I wrote a book called Cape Cod Bear. And the
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reason I wrote this is I live in Massachusetts. I live in on Plymouth
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and you know, back in two thousand and twelve. Out of the blue,
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this little black bear just showed up in Plymouth, and we don't have
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bears here. And as he was making his way on a little journey that
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he took all the way to the end of Cape Cod, which is really
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quite a hike, people were spotting him and calling into newspapers and every day
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would be on the news where the black bear was seen. And so,
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yeah, I wrote a story about Barney the cape Cod bear in his little
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vacation on Cape Cod. Wonderful. Now, your latest book is Before We
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Were Born. Reincarnation is the story arc of Before We Were Born. You
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share that you have seen glimpses of past lives during meditation and while communicating with
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spirit. What were some of your past lives like? You know, I
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don't have great detail, but I have seen these glimpses of things. I
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know that I have been in a past life, or I think more than
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one past life. I was Native American, and I have a little bit
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of an understanding of what that history was. And some of my family from
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those lives have traveled with me, and so I still communicate. And you
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know, one of them the spirits that I communicate with is his name is
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Standing Bear, and he's he isn't in the book, you know. And
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even though Before We Were Born is a it's a fictional story. It's about
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two you know, fictional characters who you know travel here together because you know
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their soulmates who travel together through lifetimes. So that's all. None of that
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is real. It's a novel, but um, you know, the concepts
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are real. They're based on the things that we learned from communicating with spirit.
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And because I am very close to this particular spirit named Standing Bear,
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I wanted to write him into the book. And how did Before We Were
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Born unfold for you? The novel itself? Yes, you know, the
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first time I sat down to write it, I actually wrote it as a
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screenplay first, Victor, for a couple of reasons. First of all,
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because I saw it as a visual story that was how it was coming to
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me. But also it helped me to organize a story that is really it's
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really far reaching, you know, because I have the two soulmates begin the
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story in the spirit world, and I know that anybody picking up that book
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is going to look at this they need to take a leap of faith,
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you know, to go through the first chapter because you know, I'm my
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musings about the spirit world are you know, some of them are based on
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things that I've seen, and you know, specifically, the White Garden is
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part of my home in the spirit world that I've seen glimpses of, you
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know, during our communications and during dreams, So I wanted to use that
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as a setting. But it's very hard to try to make something a physical
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description for people when it's it really is not a physical thing at all.
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You did a masterful job of that. Oh, thank you so much,
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Victor. I appreciate that it is such a compelling read listeners, that the
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introduction talks about these these characters in the spirit realm and how they're preparing for
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reincarnation and some of the challenges they faced. But you did an amazing job.
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Thank you for sharing that story. Oh you're welcome. Thank you for
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the comment. I appreciate that. And I think the movie would be an
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actute follow up. What are the plans? Any plans, no plans,
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But you know I'm ready, you know, and before we were born,
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your soulmate. Lead characters make choices, as I had shared, some pleasant
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and some very difficult, but it will allow them to find one another in
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the next incarnation based upon your meetingship and experiences. May we actually make choices
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before coming back, such as our parents and our life paths? Yes?
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Yes, Based on my experience, I believe we all play a role in
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choosing UM, not just our parents, but other people that we're going to
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travel with UM and our life path I think we come here with lots of
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plants. I think some of them we stick to the script and some we
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don't UM. I also think that these decisions are often made in cooperation with
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other souls, so that to me, it's it's it's you know. There's
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a line in the book where it says, you know, UM, you
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know, life is uh cooperation even when we don't know it. It's a
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creative cooperation, UM, because we're all we're all attached, we're all,
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you know, connected to each other absolutely, you know. One of the
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things that I've recognized in my life is that there have been a number of
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synchronicities presented to me throughout my life, and it took me a while to
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recognize them, especially into my mid to late thirties, where I started really
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opening and recognizing these synchronicities, and every time I would say yes to something
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that was presented to me. Every time I had three choices. I could
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say, you know, not for me and just dismiss it out of hand.
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I could say yes, that's interesting, but not right now. Or
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I could say yes, I have to pursue that right now. And every
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time I said that big yes, something wonderful happened and led to another one
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and another one. Is that what we're talking about? I love that.
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I love how you described that. Yes, I think you know. I
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think when you feel that kind of pull that your soul is excited, your
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soul saying yes, this is where we're going, let's go, let's go.
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You know when you know waiting for this. Yeah, I think it's
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an exciting thing. Absolutely. My guest is Kathleen Ready Diane. Her book
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is called Before We Were Born. Kathleen, please tell our listeners whether they
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can get your book and find out more about you and your work. Well,
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it's on Amazon. Before We Were Boring is on Amazon. It's on
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Barnes and Noble and a lot of local stores, but I don't know exactly
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which ones in you know, everyone's area. So you can also look at
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my website, which is just my full name, which is Kathleen with the
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k ready just the way it sounds. And then Diane is daya nu dot
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com. That's my website and you can find out about you know, different
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events and interviews like this, and you know also where to get the book.
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And as we always say, go to your local bookstore because we need
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to support them and ask for before we were born by Kathleen Ready Diane.
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And if they say we don't have a tell them to order it for you
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please, because we got to keep those local bookstores going. And we'll be
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Back on Destination Unlimited. My guests this week is Kathleen Ready Diane.
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Her book is called Before We Were Born. Kathleen. In Before We Were
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Born, your protagonist, Jeremy, is born to an alcoholic mother by choice
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and for proximity to soulmate Joy. You shared before that you're in recovery from
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alcoholism and can speak to that firsthand. Was weaving your experience into Jeremy's a
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challenge for you? No, Actually, that part's easy because I've lived it,
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so I understand, you know. Sometimes, you know, parts of
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my life come out on the pages that they just flow out, and it's
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just because it just comes out, you know, naturally. It's it's I
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haven't understanding of what alcoholism does to a human being, you know, and
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what it does to the people around them, and it's a it's such a
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tragic thing, and I wanted to talk a little bit more about that,
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and so you know how often it's passed down also, So we have this
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little boy who's born, Jeremy, and we meet him, you know,
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in the first chapter, we meet him and he's Ilia, and he's this
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great soul in the spirit world, and he's this incredibly intuitive, you know,
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wonderfully kind soul, and he's going to be born again, not so
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much because he wants to come to earth again and be on the earth plane
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right now, but because his partner does. And so because she chooses to
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be with someone who was her mom in another lifetime, and she has her
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own reasons for wanting to be here, and so he rather blindly follows her
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because he loves her so much and he wants to be with her, and
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so he says, you know, I'll follow you. You know, I
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always follow you, and he does. And so he chooses to be born
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to this woman who lives just you know, a couple of houses a way
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from his soulmain knowing that this way, even in this very busy modern world
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that we're all in, he's going to meet her. And he knows that
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when he meets or he'll know her, he'll recognize her. And so the
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woman, um, you know that's having this this child, is a drug
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addict and an alcoholic and she's really just very ill. And um, she
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gives birth to this baby, who you know is Jeremy, and he's born
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three months early and he's um, tiny, tiny little baby, and he
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barely survives and he has UM. We find out later that he's born with
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fetal alcohol syndrome. We also know that he has some other impairments, you
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know, he's his vision isn't very good, and you know, he has
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some other physical impairments from being born to an alcoholic. But he's he's he's
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kind of caught now in this home life with this woman. She's you know,
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the dad is gone, his dad has moved on, and it's just
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him in this you know, really kind of raving alcoholic and he finds some
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safety and some love, you know, from this other family down the street.
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Who are you know, the family that his soul mate chose. And
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so there's this dark contrast between these two, these two lives who lived,
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you know, on the same street in the same little town, but have
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very very different experiences. Or our listeners not familiar with it, please describe
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fetal alcohol syndrome. Okay, So um, that's you know, a condition
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that can happen when a mother is drinking during pregnancy and it um, you
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know, it's it affects the fetus so that it can be you know,
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varying degrees of um you know, severity, and so sometimes like a child
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could be born really you've you know, mentally impaired. And sometimes it's like
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you can see by their face they have certain physical characteristics. For instance,
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the little dent above above the lips that there will be flat. That's one
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of the signs that the physicians will pick up on early on things like that.
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But Jeremy is born, you know, he looks flawless. He's this
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beautiful little child, and nobody picks up on it until he goes to school
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and he struggles so much and they start, you know, working with him
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and realize he's eleven years old when they finally realize this, and he's already
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fallen very far behind. But you know, it's it's just an effect of
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the pregnancy and you know, having the alcohol go into his system. Let's
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talk about soulmates. Many are familiar with the term and some are familiar with
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the concept of twin flame soulmates. Your characters and before we were born might
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easily be seen as twin flame are twin flame soulmates and relationships real you know,
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I can't really speak to twin flames in the way that I understand them,
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if you correct me if I'm wrong, But I think it's sort of
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the idea of two parts making up a hole. Yes, so that we're
29:07
sort of missing something that has not been you know, my experience or you
29:12
know what I've learned, But that doesn't mean you know. I certainly don't
29:18
know even a tiny bit of all there is to know. Um. I
29:22
just think that we have many soulmates. I don't think there's one person that's
29:27
going to make us whole and that we're only half until we find them.
29:30
I think we're always whole. We come here as a we come here as
29:34
a you know, an empowered, you know, wonderful soul. We're all
29:40
that at the source. That's what we all are, you know, And
29:44
we don't always remember that, you know, when you look in the mirror,
29:47
you don't always realize, like I am the soul who came forth here,
29:51
you know, to do wonderful things, to bring love to this world,
29:53
to you know, change things in a in a positive way. We
29:57
don't always remember that about our ourselves. But I do believe that's that's what
30:00
we what we all are. So it's possible to have more than one soulmate
30:06
relationship in a lifetime. Yes, there is. And you know in Before
30:11
We Were Born, I talk about romantic soulmates and these This really is a
30:18
very romantic um partnership that these two have because they've traveled, you know,
30:22
through many lifetimes together. And you know, you find out a little bit
30:26
about this, you know later in the book when they you know, I
30:30
don't want to give anything away, but there's times when there's there's glimpses back
30:33
and they are realizing like all the times they've been together. Um, it's
30:37
really a romantic idea. But we have soulmates who are you know, friends
30:42
and family and people you know, our moms and dads are people that we
30:47
just say, hey, you know, I'm going to travel with you this
30:49
time, do you want to try? I really believe it's a I think
30:52
it's cooperative. I think we choose who you know when, and you know
30:56
who we're coming with our soulmate relationships. I'm talking about romantic soulmate relationships.
31:04
Are they all lollipops and roses or are they challenges or do they have challenges?
31:11
I think there's lots of challenges and I think that's part of the adventure,
31:17
you know, and that's certainly what happens in the you know, in
31:19
the story that I wrote. But you know, I think part of why
31:23
I wrote it this way, Victor, is because it's not a romance novel.
31:29
You know, it really isn't. Because it's not a formula. You
31:32
know, life isn't that. There's not a you know, you're not going
31:34
to ride off on the white horse with this certain guy and everything is wonderful
31:38
then on. You know, it's it's better than that. Really, it's
31:42
because you get to you get to grow on your own. You don't need
31:45
anybody to rescue you. And you you, you know, you can have
31:49
this soulmate, this person that you work with, and a partnership and um,
31:56
you know, have this lifetime together that's probably going to go on to
31:59
another lifetime and at least into the spirit realm when you pass out of this
32:02
life. And you help each other to learn things, and some of those
32:07
things are really hard, you know, like Jeremy, you know, being
32:12
you know, he's he's he's an alcoholic. He blocks his spirit and his
32:15
channel and suddenly you can't hear spirit anymore, which is one of the things
32:19
that he was born with his gift, and uh that was really going to
32:22
help him, you know, um stay on the path, and he you
32:27
know, he blocked his own channel. But you know, we do these
32:30
things where we're human beings and we make mistakes and we don't always stay on
32:34
the path, you know. But our soulmates, you know, they bump
32:37
us along and help us get back on the right path. And do we
32:43
have soulmate relationships that follow us lifetime after lifetime. Yes, I think every
32:47
relationship is different, just as there is here. But I am sure there
32:52
are people that just they want to stay together. I believe that at the
32:58
heart of all of it is is, you know, our own will what
33:00
we want to do. You know, I don't believe that this is if
33:04
anything is predestined, it's because we have thought very deeply about this before we
33:10
got here and made some choices about what we would like to experience while we're
33:16
here. I don't think anybody's you know, pulling any strings and that we're
33:21
puppets. I think that self will is is a huge part of it.
33:25
So we do have freedom in this process to choose who we come back with
33:30
and how we come back yes, So it's free will, totally free will.
33:37
It's free will, but also with guidance. So if you go off
33:42
kind of willy nilly, which is what Jeremy does. I mean when he's
33:45
Ilia, he says, I'll follow you no matter what, and he his
33:47
guides are telling him, you know, pick another mother. This is not
33:52
a good idea, and he doesn't take the advice. And so part of
33:57
why I wrote it that way, Victor, is because I think that,
34:00
you know, even on the other side, we're still human, even as
34:05
as spirits. So even then we're not perfection. You know, we're not
34:08
God. We don't There's still going to be choices that we make that maybe
34:14
weren't the easiest. It doesn't mean they're wrong per se. But you know,
34:19
Jeremy could have chosen someone else and you know, gone a different path
34:22
and had faith that he was going to meet her anyway, you know,
34:25
but he didn't. He kind of forced his will on that. Now you
34:30
had mentioned soul families. What is the spiritual component that drives our choices of
34:36
soul family? I'm not sure I understand the question exactly. How do we
34:43
choose our soule family, our mothers and our fathers and our brothers and our
34:46
sisters. What's the choice mechanism. I think it's just again, it's what
34:51
we you know, before we come here, we've lived together before. I
34:54
don't believe anybody comes here and is completely ranger to the entire family. And
35:01
you know, I think there's there's always these connections, you know, even
35:07
before, so that as a spirit making this decision to go forth and be
35:12
on the earth plane again and being born to a certain feeling, there's a
35:15
reason they chose that family. You know. It's interesting and without going into
35:19
a lot of details my parents, I could see me choosing my parents because
35:25
of the lessons that I learned through their relationship with each other, through their
35:30
relationship with me, and how it unfolded and set me the course for my
35:36
life to unfold. So I can understand that concept. Yes, are there
35:43
some childhood friends that are sole friends? And how do those friendships influence our
35:49
lives? You know, I have certainly had the feeling of that with friends
35:55
that I grew up with. I think that, you know, the the
36:00
people we grow up with are always influencing us. I feel too, you
36:05
know, for the rest of my life, I'm sure I'm going to be
36:07
influenced by the you know, my friend across the street that I climb trees
36:10
with because it was my you know, my first feeling of really true trust
36:15
and just being completely open. You know, as children, the way we
36:22
are with our friends. We can't recreate that as adults. You know,
36:27
the experiences we have when we meet people and we form these bonds, and
36:31
I feel like, you know, those those bonds are going to last my
36:35
lifetime. There's an innocence in those bonds, isn't there there is? And
36:42
what is the gift of that innocence? Just kind of I think to me,
36:46
it reminds me of who I am, you know, before I grew
36:50
up and maybe you know, took a whole bunch of different paths and you
36:53
know, became jaded in some ways and then grew past that in other ways.
36:57
There's still that that reminds you really who we are as a child.
37:01
You can look back on that and you could see yourself as a soul then,
37:06
I think, easier than looking at your adult body and looking in the
37:10
mirror and thinking, you know, okay, there's this is you know,
37:14
this is just a mechanism for this soul to be here on this earth plane.
37:17
But when I see children, you know, and I remember my own
37:21
childhood, it makes me feel almost like what it would be like to relate
37:25
to other people in the spirit realm because of that pure trust and openness,
37:31
and we just we don't hold anything back. We share everything, we tell
37:36
everything. I mean, it's it's a different kind of friendship. There was
37:39
an old Moody Blues song called through the Eyes of a Child, and the
37:44
lyric went, in part, through the eyes of a child or with the
37:46
eyes of a child, you must come out and see that your world is
37:51
spinning round and through life. You will be a small part of a whole
37:54
of a love that exists. With the eyes of a child, you will
38:00
see. Ah, that's beautiful, absolutely, And I think that concept of
38:05
rebirth gives us an opportunity that reincarnation, rebirth gives us an opportunity to see
38:10
what those eyes once again. I think that's an important reinforcement for each lifetime,
38:15
isn't it. I think it is. Yes. Now, in before
38:20
we were born, you share that when we reincarnate, we have soul guides,
38:25
some of whom may have been family. How may we understand and recognize
38:31
these soul guides. You know. The first thing you know that I would
38:37
say is again, it's what you feel. But and you know, we
38:42
talked about a little bit earlier about opening up to our our different gifts that
38:49
we might have the claires, you know, and I think that it's the
38:52
same response here is that, you know, just being really quiet with yourself
38:58
and being open to it. Maybe you know you have, We all have
39:01
various gifts. So you know, you shared with me that you are able
39:06
to um, you know, the scent. You could pick up a scent
39:10
in spirit. And some people I've heard, you know, they'll they'll smell
39:15
pipe smoke or something around them, and you know they'll they'll start to connect,
39:19
Oh that's what my grandfather, you know, smell and there's no one
39:21
around smoking a pipe that kind of thing. It's just being open to it
39:27
and and being open to it. How do we ask for their guidance?
39:31
Just ask because anything you say, I've learned something interesting, and that is
39:37
that even if you don't say something out loud, if you're thinking about a
39:40
certain particular you know, person that's in spirit and your communication is um you
39:49
know, targeted toward that person, say you're missing someone you know a lot,
39:52
and you're thinking about you know, your your mom or your brother or
39:55
somebody you lost, and you're thinking about them and thinking about them. That
39:59
creates an inner of its own and that reaches them and they're able to just
40:04
pull to you. It's they it's like they're right here. And I think
40:09
that's a good way to connect. Absolutely. My guest Kathleen Ready Diane her
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We Were Born. Kathleen, do we have soulmate animal companions too? You
43:29
know? I think we do. I don't know. I don't know a
43:31
lot about this, Victor. I just know that, you know, I
43:36
feel really strongly towards my animals. And one of the things, So we
43:40
have a little dog, a little Boston Terrier, and we had another Boston
43:45
Terrier before who had passed away. And I asked one of my friends in
43:50
spirit. I knew she was going to pass, and I asked one of
43:52
my spirit friends, would you please take her when she passes, keep her
43:55
safe? And I know she'll be there when I get there. I know
44:00
that they come close to us. You know how extensive that is, I
44:07
don't know, but I do. You know, I know that they're they're
44:09
still there, but we get there. Absolutely. Just a personal story.
44:15
When my stepson Alex was thirteen, he had asked us for a dog,
44:21
and we hadn't had any pets together up to that point. And I said
44:25
to him, absolutely, we're gonna go out. We're gonna look, we're
44:29
gonna go to several shelters here in New York. But don't fall in love
44:32
with the first dog that you see, because we're not going to just adopt
44:37
any dog. It has to be a dog that you're going to be comfortable.
44:39
If he was a small guy, and and I wanted to make sure
44:43
that this dog would not overwhelm him. And we had gone to a number
44:45
of wonderful shelters out here in Long Island and seen many wonderful animals, but
44:51
nothing that really connected. And we went to the final stop of the day,
44:53
a place called the Little Shelter Long Island, and I dropped them off
44:59
at the office and I went into the parking lot and parked, and I
45:01
walked into the office and here is Alex laying on the floor laughing hysterically with
45:07
this beautiful white and maroon modeled dog on top of him, licking his face.
45:13
And I said, what's going on here? And they said, and
45:15
Laurie Sue said, my wife said. We walked in and immediately this dog
45:20
was there. A couple had adopted her and was bringing her back because she
45:23
couldn't get along with the dog that they already had. And as we arrived
45:29
this happened. So they had a situation where we could play with her for
45:32
a little while at a special play area. And we were playing together and
45:37
we were about to make the decision, and we had a little custom called
45:40
the bug hug. And when we had a decision to make, we'd all
45:44
gathered together in a circle hug each other. Snug is a bug, a
45:47
bug and a rug, And we'd say, is this the right thing?
45:51
And as soon as we joined into the bug hug, this dog crawled up
45:54
between the middle of us, joined us, and we knew she was the
45:59
one that is, and because of the fact that she kissed him when they
46:02
met, and also it was fate that he was coming back at the same
46:07
time that we arrived, we named her Kisspitt. Oh. It was a
46:12
wonderful companion for many years, and she absolutely was a sole family member.
46:17
There's no question about it. Yes, I understand that that is a beautiful
46:22
story. Thank you. Now, there's a wonderful fable that says when we
46:25
are born and angel or a spirit guide presses on our upper lip and gently
46:31
says, don't tell what you've learned or seen, and this is why we
46:37
have the depression in our upper lips and little memory of our past lives.
46:42
Now you share that old souls remember more when we reincarnate. What do you
46:46
think is the reason for this? I think it has to do with um,
46:52
you know, well, you know part of it. I was going
46:54
to say practice sounds very simplistic. But also, you know, like people
46:59
who are who have incarnated so many times, um, I just think they're
47:04
more in touch with their intuitive abilities, you know, like Jeremy and the
47:07
story he's he's been through a lot, through many lifetimes. We don't know
47:10
all those yet. You know, but we know that in the spirit realm,
47:15
he has this gift of attracting animals to him and that they trust him
47:21
and that they you know, they know he's going to be um you know,
47:23
care for them. And then he you know, he has the birds
47:27
in the book and he takes care of those birds, and you know,
47:30
the whole story with him with the you know, the bird on his shoulder
47:32
and walking around the neighborhood and he remembers, you know, in that scene,
47:37
he has this sense of that old man who lives in his neighborhood who
47:42
came by to see him when he was like two years old. He was
47:45
out near the road by himself because his his mom wasn't you know, able
47:50
to take care of him. And this old man came by and told him,
47:53
you know, like he can't be out here by yourself. And Jeremy
47:55
puts his hands on the on the old man's knee and and helps to heal
48:00
him. You know, he's still so tapped into his spirit that he knows
48:06
he doesn't know he's a healer. He doesn't know that he doesn't come with
48:08
the knowledge, as you know, we would see it here in human form.
48:14
As you know, written down anywhere. It's just something that in his
48:16
soul he knows what the right thing to do is to touch this man on
48:21
the knee and it's going to help him, and it does. And then
48:22
later, you know, he remembers the man and he honors him by walking
48:28
around the neighborhood. He knows where the man lived because he's able. His
48:31
soul is connecting to this person, and he stops in front of his house,
48:36
you know, and he's got this bird on his shoulder, and that's
48:37
his ritual in the morning before he goes to school because he wants to honor
48:42
the person who helped him on his path. You know, it's funny.
48:45
I've been told that I've been an old soul many many times, and I
48:49
have that sense of it that I've been around many many times before. And
48:52
a few months ago, I had gotten myself a new pair of shoes and
48:57
they weren't comfortable, and I put on the old shoes and they were comfortable,
49:00
and they were sloppy, and they were in decrepit, but they were
49:05
very comfortable. And I fought for a second. I said, you know
49:07
what, I'm an old soul. In the old soul is really a great
49:14
feeling. One of the important lessons you share in the book, what you
49:17
would just describe is the healing power of touch. Does this manifest on both
49:23
sides of the spirit realm? I think it does. I mean I feel
49:28
like earlier when I was describing to you clear sentience and having that feeling of
49:34
of a spirit touching me, I think it happens between the worlds. So
49:37
I think that people, like on the spirit side, when we're feeling those
49:42
spider webs or we're feeling the pressure on our head, it's people, you
49:45
know, they're they're they're touching us. They're doing the same thing that we
49:49
do. You know, we go somebody's in pain, if somebody's struggling,
49:52
you hug them, you hold them, you know, and you're sharing your
49:55
energy and you're loving them, and that that is how we heal each other.
50:00
I think touches is imperative. You know, it's how you you know,
50:02
it's how you express love and um, yeah, I think it's it's
50:07
we still do it even in souls and in in you know, Jeremy and
50:10
uh Joya spirits, they're Elier and Callie and they talk about how you know,
50:17
you know, they're they're they're really like light. They're we're made of
50:21
light when we don't have the body. And and they're saying like when they're
50:24
embracing each other in spirit, it's they don't know where one begins in the
50:29
other one ends and the other begins, because this is the blending of their
50:31
energies. Absolutely, one of the most moving concepts that you share in before
50:38
we were born is and I quote, love is the law that governs all
50:45
that is and all that will ever be. How may we remember this when
50:51
we reincarnate into a world that surely needs that love? Now you know,
50:57
well it you know, I don't know what to say, because that's something,
51:00
um, it's hard for us to remember on a daily basis now,
51:05
you know, and and you know, it's just to me, it's just
51:09
being in touch with with your soul, which is just this whole uh,
51:15
tapping into your intuitive self and understanding, coming to the understanding that you are
51:22
you are a sacred soul. You know that whoever you are here on the
51:27
earth plane, and it doesn't matter how successful or you know, how messy
51:32
or how you know, whatever your life has been, at any point in
51:37
time, you can stop and realize if you take that time to connect with
51:42
that and realize that you are a sacred soul. And if you are that,
51:45
you're not going to want to harm anyone else or anything else, because
51:52
that's not what you are your love, you know. And so I guess
51:55
the answer to that is to look inside, because if you want to remember
51:59
that love is the law that governs all, that is, all that will
52:01
ever be. It's really if you see inside yourself and you make peace with
52:06
that, and you understand how great you are as a soul and you don't
52:10
hurt anybody, and you don't you know, it's just you're aligning yourself with
52:14
that concept. You know. It's interesting that when I attended the New Seminary
52:17
for Interfaith Studies, one of the things that we learned is that in virtually
52:22
every faith around the world, there is an iteration of the Golden rule,
52:28
doing to others as you'd have them doing to you, Love thy neighbor as
52:30
thyself. If everybody practice that, what a world we would have, wouldn't
52:34
it? That's all we need? That's it, because it does. It
52:38
just encompasses, It encompasses all the religions and all the you know, it's
52:45
really all we would need to live a beautiful life and have peace on earth.
52:51
Absolutely. What would you like readers to take away from before we were
52:54
born? I really wrote the book because I wanted to let people know how
53:00
much it, you know, having the information that I have as a medium.
53:06
It has made me feel less afraid of living my life the way I
53:12
want to live my life. It's made me less afraid of death, and
53:15
it's given me so much solace because I know that everyone that I love who
53:20
has passed over to the spirit world is alive and well and I mean really
53:25
living joyfully. I've had so many examples of that through through you know,
53:31
mediumship communication, of people coming back and showing themselves to me and saying,
53:36
don't worry about me, see me, I'm I'm doing wonderfully. They're full
53:39
of love and light and they're just so joyful, and I just would like
53:45
to pass that on. I hope people take that away from the book.
53:49
There is no death, just a change of situation. That's right. Absolutely.
53:53
Please tell us about your next book. Ah well, I have a
53:58
book coming out in October which is not part of this. I'm working on
54:02
a series for this book Victor. I'm working on a I'm writing a sequel
54:07
to Before We Were Born right now. But in between the two, I
54:10
wrote another book. It's called Bridge Jumping, and it's you know, kind
54:15
of what you and I were just talking about a couple of minutes ago,
54:17
about different religions and what's at the heart of them. And this is a
54:23
story about this woman. We open up the first chapter and it's her funeral.
54:30
She's forty years old and she's passed away, and she's asked for her
54:34
body to be cremated and divided into twelve glass vials and for the people closest
54:40
to her to you know, each take a vial and bring it to a
54:44
place that would honor the relationship that they had with her. And so it's
54:49
really about you know, different spiritual paths and where they lead us and how
54:54
they affect our relationships and you know, our perspectives on life. UM.
55:00
And we get to you know, know, the protagonist is her name is
55:05
Page, and she's still the protagonist because she's even though she's passed. From
55:07
the beginning, UM, you know, we're following some of her journal entries
55:12
as we go through, and you know, every chapter leads to another another
55:15
one of her family or you know family members or friends. Where they're going
55:19
with the ashes and why they're taking them there, and um, you know
55:22
it has a lot to do with you know, how we how we heal
55:27
from from grief. Absolutely, my guest Kathleen Ready Diane, her book Before
55:35
We Were Born. One more time, please tell our listeners can get your
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book and find out more about you. Um, you can look at my
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website which is Kathleen Ready Diane. Last name is spelled daya n dot com
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um and that will tell you lots of things about where you know, different
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events and where you can get the book. But you can also get it
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on Amazon or Barnes and Noble. Kathylene, thank you so much for joining
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us and sharing this very powerful and moving and wonderful story. Thank you so
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much, Victor, I really enjoyed speaking with you, and thank you for
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joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful weekend.