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- 0:20Hello and welcome to Resource Report, where we
- 0:22share with you important information about local
- 0:25nonprofits and resource organizations that support
- 0:29the community we share, produced by Pathways
- 0:32to Agency. I am your host, Rainmaker. Today we
- 0:35feature the Community Nature Foundation and Fern
- 0:39Gully Forest School with Lindsey Wonder and Charissa
- 0:43Waters. Here's Charissa and Lindsey. I am here
- 0:55at KAOS Radio in the production studio with
- 0:59Lindsey Wonder and Charissa Waters with Community
- 1:03Nature Foundation and Fern Gully Forest School.
- 1:07How are you guys doing today? We're great. Thank
- 1:10you so much for having us. You're welcome so
- 1:12much. Can you please introduce yourselves, your
- 1:17position, and how did you come to be here with
- 1:20Community Nature Foundation and the Fern Gully
- 1:22Forest School? Yeah, I'm Charissa, and Lindsey
- 1:27and I were a part of a group of mothers and educators
- 1:30that started the nonprofit Community Nature Foundation
- 1:33to purchase and protect a local community forest
- 1:38for the forest school that we started during
- 1:40COVID. We were looking for something like it
- 1:43for our children, couldn't find anything like
- 1:45it in the community. And with our experience
- 1:47and our community support, we were able to start
- 1:50the nonprofit and the forest school. Wow, awesome.
- 1:54Yeah, it's been an amazing journey. Yeah, we
- 1:57started the school partially as a response to
- 2:00the pandemic in 2020 because we were able to
- 2:04create the school for a school preschool with
- 2:11the kids being outside all the time and being
- 2:14unmasked. during that time so that they could
- 2:18have the full access to their teachers' communication,
- 2:22their faces, the faces of their friends, and
- 2:25being able to be all outdoors. Creating that
- 2:29allowed us to meet the health and safety guidelines
- 2:33for our community and provide our kids with the
- 2:36social -emotional connection that they really
- 2:40needed during that time. So it was a nice fit
- 2:43for the community and our families. That's awesome.
- 2:46Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And so can you say a little
- 2:51bit more about what the Community Nature Foundation
- 2:56is, what y 'all really do? Yeah. So we do grassroots
- 3:02fundraisers, some really fun community events
- 3:05to raise funds to purchase and protect more of
- 3:08this community forest, Fern Gully Forest. It's
- 3:11an urban forest located in Olympia. within the
- 3:15city limits it's a very small but mighty forest
- 3:17it's kind of a hidden gem you wouldn't know it
- 3:19was back there and when you're in the forest
- 3:21you wouldn't know you're in the city and we had
- 3:24been looking around for other land trusts when
- 3:27we found out that this forest could be sold and
- 3:29developed we were looking to see who could help
- 3:32us to protect it and there were no other community
- 3:36organizations in the area that do small urban
- 3:39forests protection. There were others that do
- 3:42larger areas of forest protection, farmland production,
- 3:46or endangered species protection. So because
- 3:49there was nothing like it, and we were already
- 3:51working to start the forest school for our own
- 3:53children, we decided to start the nonprofit with
- 3:57our community support in order to meet that need
- 4:00as well. And then the Fern Gully Forest School
- 4:03aspect? Yeah, so the forest school has been thriving
- 4:10Since 2020? Yeah, 2021. So the forest school
- 4:19originally was a business, an LLC. And as we
- 4:25developed the nonprofit, we eventually chose
- 4:28to dissolve the LLC as far as like licensing
- 4:30and that kind of stuff goes. And bring all of
- 4:33our youth programming, including summer camps,
- 4:36spring break camps, and now a program that we
- 4:39offer for older children ages 6 through 12 during
- 4:44the school year. So we brought all of that programming
- 4:47under the nonprofit. So that's been a big shift.
- 4:51Yeah, we did that last year because we originally
- 4:55we had a piece of the forest donated to us in
- 4:57loving memory of Vicky Friend, who was a brother
- 5:00and sister who had inherited the piece of forest.
- 5:02And they sent a letter to all the neighbors letting
- 5:05them know that they were trying to sell it. And
- 5:07we hadn't known that that forest could be sold
- 5:10and developed. It was like a greenway. We thought
- 5:12that it was already protected. It was behind
- 5:14the forest school that we were starting. And
- 5:17we contacted them and let them know what we were
- 5:20doing, our vision. They were very supportive,
- 5:22ended up donating it to us once we finally got
- 5:25all of the paperwork back from the IRS and got
- 5:28official 501(c)3 nonprofit status. So they donated
- 5:32that piece in 2021. And then we were able to
- 5:36purchase just last year the neighbor's house
- 5:38that came with another two acres of the forest
- 5:41and the creek access. There's Indian Creek there.
- 5:44And it's right on the border of Woodland Trail
- 5:46System as well. So it's a really nice central
- 5:48location, walkable, bikeable to get to forest
- 5:52school. And so that's the location we've created
- 5:55another outdoor classroom for the older kids.
- 5:57There are six to 12 year olds homeschool enrichment
- 6:00classes. That's fabulous. That's awesome. How
- 6:03very lucky for y 'all, especially that y 'all
- 6:05were able to get that house. Yeah, it was amazing
- 6:08timing. That was just over a year ago. Yeah,
- 6:11we got a loan from the Washington Community Reinvestment
- 6:13Association. They're also a women -run nonprofit
- 6:16based in Seattle, and they invest in community.
- 6:20just really loved what we were doing. We had
- 6:23a proposal for the community nature center there,
- 6:25and they really loved and supported that and
- 6:27provided a great loan for us to be able to do
- 6:29that. We are still working on purchasing and
- 6:32protecting about another acre that's remaining
- 6:34of Fern Gully Forest. It is owned by a small development
- 6:39company who has also been really supportive of
- 6:42our vision for it. They are, you know, needing
- 6:46and wanting quite a high value for that property.
- 6:51So it's been on hold for a while, especially
- 6:55last year as we were purchasing the neighbor's
- 6:58house and two more acres of the forest. So we
- 7:01have about three acres of the forest protected
- 7:04currently in the Community Nature Foundation.
- 7:08And we are still raising funds and doing community
- 7:11events to be able to purchase and protect the
- 7:15remaining forest. Awesome. Yeah, that section
- 7:18has the old growth trees, big red western cedar
- 7:22trees. So it's a really important part of the
- 7:26forest that we're still working to protect. Nice.
- 7:30Yeah, that piece of the forest that is currently
- 7:33for sale is in the middle of Fern Gully Forest.
- 7:36So it's a very critical piece of the whole forest.
- 7:40It's right in the middle of everything. we were
- 7:44doing right now so we just we need to do that
- 7:47as quickly as possible um and also i feel that
- 7:52that it's it's it's coming so we're looking forward
- 7:56to that if you if you want to support that come
- 7:59help? Ideally, yeah, ideally, we would raise
- 8:02the $175 ,000 that they're asking for. It is a
- 8:05small family owned company, and they need it
- 8:08for their what they've told us is medical bills
- 8:11and things. So they really do need that money.
- 8:14So ideally, win win situation, you know, we are
- 8:17able to find a donor that can support the urban
- 8:20conservation of the for the urban forest, excuse
- 8:22me. But also, it's just, it's really A piece
- 8:29of what we're doing right now to prove that it
- 8:31needs to be protected is looking for wildlife
- 8:34biologists, wetland scientists who can do some
- 8:37of those studies to help us show that it should
- 8:41already be protected. My background is in conservation
- 8:45and protection. So I have done a lot of that
- 8:48work. And the only kind of barrier to that right
- 8:52now is the funding to do those studies there.
- 8:56Awesome. I want to go back really quick for a
- 8:59second. So when you were mentioning that you
- 9:01switched over from an LLC to a nonprofit, this
- 9:04might explain why if anyone right now were to
- 9:07go and Google the Fern Gully Forest School, there
- 9:10are two websites, and... okay. So that explains
- 9:14that. Yeah. Our first website, ferngullyschool
- 9:16.com, still comes up first on Google. And most
- 9:20people know that. So we have kept it active.
- 9:23That mostly has our information for our preschool.
- 9:25We also do have a page on there that has information
- 9:29for the homeschool enrichment programs. But if
- 9:31you're curious about all of our programs, including
- 9:34the conservation piece and our community events,
- 9:36you'd want to go to communitynature .org. Okay.
- 9:39Thank you for that clarification. Now, is the
- 9:42original website going to eventually disappear?
- 9:45Eventually, once we figure out the Google SEO
- 9:47to improve the other website, yes. It's a process.
- 9:51Okay. Yeah. And then y 'all will have, like, notifications
- 9:54up about that when the change is ready to be
- 9:58made. And we do work to keep that original website
- 10:01accurate as well. So if people... Find that.
- 10:06That's fine. Also, there's just more info on
- 10:09communitynature .org. And are there links to
- 10:12communitynature .org from the first website?
- 10:16Yes, especially on the admissions page of the
- 10:18first website if they're looking to enroll. And
- 10:21there's links on how to get to Community Nature
- 10:24Foundation's website. And that is really... has
- 10:28a lot more information on there. There's also
- 10:30more information on our Facebook page. Fern Gully
- 10:32School is the tag for that. And that has both
- 10:36the nonprofit and the Nature Wise programs and
- 10:39the forest preschool. Okay, good to know. Good
- 10:42to know. Now, why a forest school? What's up
- 10:45with that? Okay, I want to shoot at that one.
- 10:48I love that. So the reason that I particularly
- 10:54love the forest school model which we draw a
- 10:59lot from is uh being able to foster this environment
- 11:08and social structure through our teaching and
- 11:12guidance capacity with the kids.. um.. where they
- 11:18are constantly encountering their own growing
- 11:23capacity through all these challenges that they
- 11:29come up on. If it's they want to be able to climb
- 11:32out across on a log or run and jump over things
- 11:39in the woods or, you know, of course, learn to
- 11:42sort out social issues with their friends. I
- 11:46love that the focus is on really encountering
- 11:51our capacity in times of challenge. For me personally,
- 11:55that's the takeaway for me from the forest school
- 11:59model. And there are lots of different ways to
- 12:01do forest school. There's wonderful lineages
- 12:04across the globe where people have chosen to
- 12:08have their children cared for, guided, taught
- 12:11outside in all weather. And so we do that too.
- 12:16Our kids just have, you know, we follow the local
- 12:19Olympia School District, the OSD school calendar.
- 12:23We do have covered areas and some warm up areas,
- 12:27but all the kids just have fantastic rain gear.
- 12:30So do the teachers. And, you know, we have a
- 12:33fairly temperate climate here. But it's still
- 12:37that challenge sometimes too of just being out
- 12:40in the weather. And feeling the wholeness of
- 12:45being human outside with the plants, with the
- 12:48trees, with each other, with the water. It's
- 12:51just super fun. I love it so much. So we do a
- 12:53lot of native plant study, teaching the children
- 12:57about shelter building, making fires, understanding
- 13:04the water quality in the stream, understanding
- 13:07the local animals. watching for their signs and
- 13:12their life cycles, all in relation to who we
- 13:15are as humans and who we are socially and who
- 13:18we are as part of that whole. So we do primarily
- 13:22draw from the forest school pedagogy, but we
- 13:25also bring in some Waldorf inspiration. A lot
- 13:29of our founding board members and mothers were
- 13:32Waldorf educators. So we love to bring in a lot
- 13:36of that. primarily with seasonal celebrations.
- 13:40We do a winter solstice candle making and spiral
- 13:45walk. We also do harvest parties and community
- 13:49events. A big part of what we're doing is community
- 13:52building as well and parent support, especially
- 13:55homeschool support. But all of the parents also
- 13:59need some social interaction as much as our children
- 14:03do. We also need that connection. So we really
- 14:14follow the four realms of awareness and connection.
- 14:18We journey through that in both the preschool
- 14:21and the Nature Wise program for older kids. The
- 14:24circle is for community, but there's also self
- 14:28-connection and awareness that we're bringing
- 14:30in with our curriculum of mindfulness. We do
- 14:33meditation practices and yoga and then nature
- 14:36connection, of course, and wild crafting, ancestral
- 14:40skills, survival skills. So there's a lot interdisciplinary
- 14:45that we bring in that's really holistic education.
- 14:49Yeah, I think that the holistic education piece
- 14:53that you we have found, you will find we have
- 14:57found particularly. with the Waldorf schools.
- 15:03A lot of that, you know, really helping the children
- 15:07to be aware of and in their bodies, like a lot
- 15:11of movement, a lot of focus on play and really
- 15:19celebrating where the kids are at developmentally.
- 15:24and having their academic interest be met appropriately
- 15:28based on their own development. That's something
- 15:32that I really took away from my experiences with
- 15:35Waldorf education. And yeah, I feel like that
- 15:40is one of the best things we can offer our kids
- 15:42is instead of trying to have them all do things
- 15:47at the same time, really seeing where they are
- 15:49and meeting them. Which is, it's challenging,
- 15:53but I think that's the way we all grow and learn.
- 15:55So that's an important aspect of how we teach
- 15:58and encourage the kids. We also have Montessori
- 16:01influence as well. Yeah, I think especially you.
- 16:05confirm more of that so you want to speak to
- 16:07her what that's yeah and there are people who
- 16:10are not familiar I'd love to have Montessori
- 16:12and Waldorf clarified right yeah I absolutely
- 16:16we use a lot of Montessori methods in our interactions
- 16:20with children and in our daily flow so it's a
- 16:25beautiful unstructured learning approach so there
- 16:29is of course the teachers are they're teaching
- 16:33and they are introducing subjects but then there's
- 16:37open stations where the children get to go to
- 16:41different materials and are able to learn in
- 16:46a way that works best for them so it's very It's
- 16:50very child -centered, child -led. There are,
- 16:53of course, teacher -led activities as well. So
- 16:55it's a balance between child -led and teacher
- 16:57-led. There is free play and that kind of unstructured
- 17:02play, which is also very important. Many studies
- 17:04show the importance of that unstructured play
- 17:06for children to be able to, like Lindsay was
- 17:10saying, really test their boundaries and assess
- 17:13risk for themselves. That risky play comes from
- 17:16the four -school pedagogy, which is just such
- 17:19a great way for to really understand their own
- 17:21limits and gain self -esteem and self -confidence.
- 17:26So they are learning through this unstructured
- 17:29play and unstructured learning to really have
- 17:32self -motivation and develop this love for learning
- 17:35that can be really stamped out if they're forced
- 17:40to learn or if they have to learn a certain thing
- 17:42in a certain way. And that's just not their learning
- 17:45style. There's not, you know, there's not one
- 17:48box fits all children. They all need different
- 17:50things. So we bring in a lot of different methods
- 17:52and approaches for each child. Yeah. That brings
- 17:56up something for me. I find that kids who are
- 18:00coming to us with their families knowing that
- 18:04they are They're telling us that their kids are
- 18:07neurodivergent. They're telling us that their
- 18:10kids have been diagnosed with ADHD or autism
- 18:13or various different challenges or ways of being.
- 18:18And basically, we're encountering families pretty
- 18:23often who are feeling challenged trying to help
- 18:29their kids go to public school. And then, or
- 18:36schools that are more structured like that, or
- 18:38even day cares or different, different, you know,
- 18:43cares or education that they're part of, whatever,
- 18:44where they're finding these kids are just not
- 18:47getting their needs met socially or for their
- 18:50sensory needs. And I have had so much fun seeing.
- 18:57Many kids come to us with their parents having
- 19:01concerns about how they're going to do based
- 19:03on past experiences and other types of learning
- 19:05models. And these kids are thriving with us for
- 19:09the most part. They really are because they can
- 19:11play on the swings. They can eat whenever they're
- 19:14hungry. They can jump on trampolines. They can
- 19:18encounter plants and dirt. Oh, gosh, just get
- 19:25so much nurturing. And we have pretty small groups
- 19:29for the amount of, you know, like our student
- 19:34to teacher ratio is very low. So we're right
- 19:38there to help them when they have just issues
- 19:41coming up. We do a lot of work with helping the
- 19:43kids learn to regulate through, like Charissa
- 19:47was saying, you know, meditation, mindfulness
- 19:50practices, just self -awareness. Um, we put a
- 19:54huge focus on that with our teachers for the
- 19:58kids so that the kids can really be held when
- 20:01they're having discomfort, if it's socially or
- 20:04they're encountering their, just their own discomfort
- 20:07about their environment or their food or whatever's
- 20:11going on and really helping them through co -regulation
- 20:15that we could offer them as well as many different
- 20:19things that they can do. you know, various types
- 20:24of crafting or building or just engaging with
- 20:29different things physically with their hands
- 20:30or like I said, swinging or that kind of stuff.
- 20:34It could be petting the cat. That really helps
- 20:37sometimes. And the rabbits.. animals, and having
- 20:39that sweetness is really grounding for some kids.
- 20:42Just being in nature is so healing. It's very
- 20:44therapeutic. It's really amazing to see how these
- 20:49children are just so different when they're in
- 20:52nature based on what our parents do. what their
- 20:54parents tell us. They are already just regulated
- 20:58and ready to listen. They have increased attention
- 21:03spans and they're much more engaged and wanting
- 21:07to do the activities. It's really beautiful to
- 21:10see how nature alone is so helpful for the children
- 21:14just being outside. We like to say if a child
- 21:17is bouncing off the walls, don't punish the child,
- 21:19take away the walls. When you're coming out of
- 21:22a school environment that has pressure and now
- 21:25you have no pressure to perform, to be a certain
- 21:29way, you know, that is extremely healing. Yeah,
- 21:34it is. And we do have a very strong structure
- 21:37of accountability, though, helping the children
- 21:40learn to be accountable as they learn to regulate.
- 21:47Then like next steps, like expressing their needs
- 21:50and being accountable, like understanding their
- 21:52feelings and be able to talk about those things.
- 21:55But yes, being accountable for how they treat
- 21:58others. That's a huge part of what we do. So
- 22:01we do have expectations, but based upon just
- 22:04how to be good people together. And I think that's
- 22:08another thing that is really important in the
- 22:10work that we do is helping the children understand
- 22:12their capacity. how important they are to each
- 22:17other. And I really try to, I like to focus on
- 22:21encouraging them to be genuinely curious about
- 22:26each other and remember that we're all friends
- 22:29and to be kind. If we can stay with that and
- 22:34give ourselves space when we're feeling uncomfortable
- 22:36and ask for help if we're feeling uncomfortable,
- 22:38that's kind of the basis of everything. Everything
- 22:41comes back to that socially. When our expectation
- 22:44is that they do have the capacity to learn to
- 22:49regulate, they do have the capacity to learn
- 22:51to talk about their feelings and ask for help.
- 22:53They do have the capacity to be kind to each
- 22:56other. Even if it's not their favorite person,
- 22:58they have the capacity to be kind, you know.
- 23:00I think that's it. It's like that expectation
- 23:02that we have that they are capable and that they
- 23:06are awesome people, you know, instead of coming
- 23:10down on them for doing things in ways that may
- 23:14be disruptive or hurtful to others sometimes.
- 23:17Instead of coming down on that, being like, well,
- 23:19okay, how did this happen? And always being available
- 23:22for that work. That are very important to us.
- 23:25And we want them to think about each other that
- 23:27way and be supportive of each other in those
- 23:29ways, too. Yeah, for sure. So we talked a little
- 23:44bit about Montessori, but what about Waldorf?
- 23:47How are they different? Oh, gosh. They both come
- 23:52from just very different educators. Maria Montessori
- 23:56created Montessori... I don't want to say school
- 24:03necessarily, but she created a whole philosophy
- 24:05around teaching and guiding and raising children,
- 24:09which is very different from the Waldorf style
- 24:13of education, which was created by Rudolf Steiner.
- 24:20They're both wonderful and just very different.
- 24:24Steiner was very excited about the ideas of a
- 24:31holistic lifestyle for children based on their
- 24:36development and a real inclusion as much as possible
- 24:40throughout their daily rhythms. There's a lot
- 24:45of emphasis on the rhythm of the day. in Waldorf
- 24:48education and kind of doing things at the same
- 24:51time every day and having the same, you know,
- 24:58repetitive songs or experiences that create this
- 25:01like grounding structure foundation. So some
- 25:05of the ways that that's just one little piece.
- 25:08I mean, Waldorf education is just a very unique.
- 25:11A very unique practice. And I'm really grateful
- 25:15for that influence in my own life. But I have
- 25:17chosen not to just go teach at a Waldorf school,
- 25:21which I used to think I would want to do. I really
- 25:24like to mix in a lot of great Waldorf ideas and
- 25:31practices and crafts and festivals. I like to
- 25:35weave that in as part of my family life as I've
- 25:39raised my kids and also our school. Yeah, so
- 25:42I like the very practical applications of, I
- 25:47remember one from a Waldorf parenting book was
- 25:50like, oh, your two -year -old or three -year
- 25:52-old is biting someone. I hand them a carrot
- 25:56and say, "we bite carrots, not our friends". Just
- 26:00like very practical and like, very, like, cause
- 26:02and effect, but without shame or blame. And I
- 26:05really like that. So anyway, that's a little
- 26:07bit about that. Montessori is much more based
- 26:10on offering the children a lot of different things.
- 26:14Like Charissa was saying, we see that at our school
- 26:17by having different stations set up. They're
- 26:20always available. And there's always, for instance,
- 26:24in the preschool, there's always the mud kitchen.
- 26:25There's always the garden. There's always the
- 26:27bunnies. There's always the dress -up area. There's
- 26:29always the music. There's always the building
- 26:33blocks area... or, um..oh gosh... Puppet theater. The puppet
- 26:38theater! Right! The, um.. the painting area. You know
- 26:42there's different things that the kids always
- 26:43have access to so we do have periods of the day
- 26:45at our school or at the preschool especially
- 26:49but in both programs um where the kids have free
- 26:53play uh they have free play in the woods and
- 26:57also some loud activities in the woods the forest
- 26:59but also in our preschool area where we have
- 27:03all these things that I just mentioned, there
- 27:07are certain chunks of the day that are just left
- 27:11open for them to be able to play and engage in
- 27:17all those different ways with the guidance and
- 27:19support of their teachers, you know, as pertains
- 27:22to any which one thing they do. But they have
- 27:25a lot of freedom about when and how they want
- 27:27to do those things. So I would say that is a
- 27:31strong Montessori influence. Also, both Waldorf
- 27:34and Montessori practices, as well as forest school,
- 27:39have a huge emphasis on a really healthy, like
- 27:45low toxin environment for children. So that being
- 27:50like, you know, the types of images that they're
- 27:54exposed to, the types of materials that they're
- 27:57in contact with, with their hands. even as much
- 28:01as the materials that we wear, you know, everything,
- 28:05we impact everything, everything impacts us.
- 28:09So for instance, Montessori and Waldorf, both
- 28:12styles of education do not promote the use of
- 28:17plastic toys or very much technology, especially
- 28:21at an early age. So there's an emphasis on natural
- 28:25materials, natural, like, I say natural, but like,
- 28:30kids um kids want to play in the dirt so yeah
- 28:33let's let's have them play in the dirt! Let's
- 28:34have them climb a tree play with wooden blocks
- 28:36like um be in contact with with things that are
- 28:40um close to us of our own makeup does that make
- 28:44sense i feel like I'm rambling about that but
- 28:46um that's a big difference between walking into
- 28:48some daycares or schools where you just see plastic
- 28:52everywhere or you'll see you know just tons of
- 28:54screens and computers everywhere and big screens
- 28:59even in kindergartens these days I'm amazed by
- 29:02that um because the kids are really needing to
- 29:06learn to engage with our actual environment which
- 29:08is the natural world as humans we have to be
- 29:13able to do that so um that's like why we do the
- 29:16forest school aspect of our work um particularly,
- 29:21is to help the children continually engage with
- 29:25the natural elements, being awareness of the
- 29:31weather and the moon cycle and the seasons and
- 29:34the longer days or the shorter days. What are
- 29:37the plants doing right now? What are the animals
- 29:39doing? And then relating that to how they feel
- 29:42and what they're processing and what they're
- 29:44thinking about and what are the things that we
- 29:46do in our homes or in our communities during
- 29:48these different seasons. I think it's very important
- 29:52for children to have an understanding of basic
- 29:54survival skills. So at our school, we do have
- 29:58a strong emphasis on that. Instead of, say, like
- 30:02a bunch of energy toward Tech education, we simply
- 30:07don't do that at this point. I mean, lots of
- 30:11people are doing that. We're offering a difference.
- 30:13We want the kids to feel at home on the planet
- 30:15as humans and understand how to take care of
- 30:18themselves and each other practically and socially.
- 30:20And that's why I love Forest School. So, yeah.
- 30:31It sounds like a lot of overlap with unschooling
- 30:34and homeschooling. Do you get a lot of homeschool,
- 30:37unschool families? We do some, yes. And the program
- 30:45that we're offering right now, which is called
- 30:47Nature Wise, that's for children ages 6 through
- 30:5012, Monday through Thursday for the school year
- 30:54beginning September 3rd. And that's from 930
- 30:58in the morning until 330 in the afternoon, Monday
- 31:00through Thursday. We are we have created that
- 31:05program as homeschool support. So there's different
- 31:11ways that families who are currently enrolled
- 31:13in public school can take part in that program,
- 31:16which is you can find out how to do that by.
- 31:20Give us a call if you want to talk about it or
- 31:23email us. We'd be happy to support you. But going
- 31:27to the school where you are or the school district
- 31:30where you are and saying, hey, I'd like to pull
- 31:33my kid, you know, one day a week or one half
- 31:35day a week or whatever is right for your family
- 31:37for nature enrichment classes. And we have the
- 31:41right to do that as parents, which is really
- 31:43neat. And it's actually a simple Google form
- 31:45that the school districts have. It's an intent
- 31:48to homeschool. Intent to homeschool. Yep. So
- 31:51it's the part -time piece of that that I think
- 31:53a lot of people are not aware of. So we want
- 31:55to raise more awareness around that. And also,
- 31:59we can support families who may have their kids
- 32:03enrolled in the H -Connect program at the Olympia
- 32:06Regional Learning Academy. We are right across
- 32:10the street from there, just real close by. If
- 32:13you were to look at a map, we are within walking
- 32:15distance. So I'm really excited about that particular
- 32:19community, which is already so close to our school,
- 32:23like logistically right there. I'm excited about
- 32:26those H -Connect parents, especially learning
- 32:29that our program for six to 12 year olds now
- 32:32exists just right there. So if they'd like to
- 32:35do. You know, if they're over at ORLA and then
- 32:38they want to do a couple days of forest school
- 32:41or a half day of forest school, we're really
- 32:44excited about learning how we can best serve
- 32:46the homeschool community. So for now, we do have
- 32:49that full availability Monday through Thursday,
- 32:52930 to 330 for kids. And we're looking forward
- 32:57to finding out like how many people want that
- 32:59full time or part time or if some families are
- 33:02really looking for like two half days or. We
- 33:05don't really know. But I guess my point of this
- 33:07part of the conversation is to say, hey, please
- 33:09tell us what you want. We're here to serve you.
- 33:11And we're really excited about seeing how we
- 33:14can best assist families meet their needs. There's
- 33:18so much there, which is just really awesome that
- 33:21you really learn best in that actual environment
- 33:24doing those things. So for sure, hands -on learning
- 33:29is like a big thing. Yes, we're also very excited
- 33:32to integrate the hands -on academics, hands -on
- 33:36science and math and language arts and all of
- 33:40the subjects that homeschool families need to
- 33:43incorporate into their education plan in a really
- 33:46fun out. door hands -on kind of way yeah we've
- 33:50been working to create our curriculum based specifically
- 33:53on those needs that some homeschool families
- 33:56really want on all of these different things
- 34:00which are generally referred to as subjects right
- 34:02and so we are including that same uh that same
- 34:09list basically in the curriculum that we're creating
- 34:12but everything being through hands -on learning
- 34:15so Yeah, I'm excited. Right on. So you have the
- 34:28preschool? Correct. Yeah, the preschool is through
- 34:30kindergarten program. So it's for ages three
- 34:32to six. Do 9 to 1 primarily for the preschool
- 34:37age. We also offer some aftercare programs. So
- 34:41that's 9 a .m. to 1 p .m. Monday through Friday.
- 34:44And then with an additional add -on possible
- 34:47or a different time from 1 to 3PM as well for some
- 34:51families. So those are our hours. We try to make
- 34:57it as accessible as possible with a sliding scale
- 34:59for families. And that is the honor system. So
- 35:04if you go to their website and you look at the
- 35:06admissions page or the programs page, you'll
- 35:08see what the sliding scale is. And then we also
- 35:11offer additional discounts for low income families
- 35:14below the sliding scale. So it's really our effort
- 35:19to make it as accessible as possible for all
- 35:21incomes and backgrounds. people. We also offer
- 35:26as the nonprofit some scholarships. And the more
- 35:29donations we receive, the more scholarships we're
- 35:32able to provide for really low income and at
- 35:35risk or minority families. So that's a big goal
- 35:40of ours now, especially is to increase that program
- 35:43and the scholarship program. Yeah. Definitely.
- 35:46That's good to hear. Something that I had thought
- 35:48about, I actually have been homeless with my
- 35:51children. Not everyone that's homeless wants
- 35:55to be working under the McKinney Act and putting
- 35:57their children in a school either, you know,
- 36:00and so this could be a viable alternative for
- 36:05them, potentially. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, many
- 36:09of our founding mothers and directors were single
- 36:12mothers and at some point have needed assistance.
- 36:15So it's a big part of what we do in our mission
- 36:18is to provide that support for people who need
- 36:21it. And a lot of times it's temporary. Sometimes
- 36:25it's ongoing. And we have that flexibility and
- 36:29the community support to be able to provide that.
- 36:32Flexibility is a key point there. Yeah. I mean,
- 36:37as the nonprofit and Fern Gully School, we are
- 36:42not part of the Olympia School District. We can
- 36:45serve families who are part of the school district,
- 36:49as we mentioned, by offering like a one day a
- 36:51week pop-out or however much they want to our
- 36:54homeschool families. But we are not part of the
- 36:58Olympia School District. And so any particular
- 37:01challenges that families have with. You know,
- 37:06their own housing or lifestyle or whatever is
- 37:10coming up for them with OSD is not the same for
- 37:17us. We're a very different entity. And so you
- 37:28have after school and camps, after school programs?
- 37:33We have summer camps in the summer. We have not
- 37:37opened our after school program. We do have an
- 37:39interest list for that. So when we get a long
- 37:42enough interest list, we would consider opening
- 37:44an after school program. At the moment, we are
- 37:47focusing on our preschool through kindergarten
- 37:49program and the new Nature Wise program for kids
- 37:536 to 12. So that's 9:30AM to 3:30PM. So it's not really
- 37:57after school. Oh, okay. Yeah. And we have had
- 37:59after school programs in the past. And as Charissa
- 38:02has said, we do have an interest list that we
- 38:04are adding to at this time. So, you know, if
- 38:07families are looking for that after 3PM type
- 38:12care, you know, feel free to reach out to us
- 38:15and let us know. And we will continue to get
- 38:18that list together for us to be able to hire
- 38:21teachers to get that program going, we would
- 38:25just need to have enough people that really want
- 38:27it to happen. And we've been in that position
- 38:29before, and that's been great. And we're open
- 38:31to doing it again if there is that need in the
- 38:34community. You call it the camps for the summer,
- 38:44but how is it different or the same from your
- 38:48school year classes? Great question. Well, just
- 38:52the nature of the season. So we're a seasonally
- 38:54based school and program and our curriculums
- 38:59are based seasonally. So in the summer, the kids
- 39:01spend a lot of time in the creek. They spend
- 39:04a lot of time picking blackberries. You know,
- 39:07this year there was so many neat, amazing things
- 39:09they did. But so you'll see the reflection of
- 39:12the seasons in the curriculum, but also the energy
- 39:14of the group. So when it's high summer and the
- 39:18sun is shining bright and everybody's warm, it's
- 39:20just such a different energy than January. What
- 39:23are we doing together, right? So there's that.
- 39:27Also, a lot of the kids who will have come to
- 39:30summer camp, especially in that older group,
- 39:32the 6 through 12 -year -olds, some of them have
- 39:34been in public school for the year or doing other
- 39:39things. And they really have a camp experience
- 39:43with us that's a lot of outside games and activities
- 39:47and crafts and gardening. and playing playing
- 39:51playing with their friends outside um we do really
- 39:56neat um like uh the missions what do we call
- 40:00that like we're uh they'll have like a goal that
- 40:03they work on together as the group team challenge
- 40:05team challenge thank you so much yeah so we'll
- 40:07have team challenges um we'll have team challenges
- 40:10that we have them work on on do together based
- 40:14on things that we're learning um I think it just
- 40:18has a lot more element of like games and play
- 40:21and wildness on a level. Yeah, we want them to
- 40:27just come away feeling like they had a lot of
- 40:30really high energy play in a way that's unique
- 40:34to summer, right? And so it is really a year
- 40:37round program that we offer in summer is that
- 40:40camp element partially because of the difference
- 40:43in the students that we have enrolled and what
- 40:46they may be doing during some of the rest of
- 40:48the year. And then the other is just the season.
- 40:51We run it to be consistent for our current families
- 40:54who need consistency and the children who also
- 40:57need consistency. So it does run through the
- 41:00whole summer. It is four week sessions. Generally,
- 41:05we do open it to weekly enrollment for our older
- 41:08Nature Wise program. But we do July and August
- 41:12in order for, you know, the care to be very consistent.
- 41:17We take one week off before school starts, but
- 41:19that's it. Okay. Oh, good. Good to know. Thank
- 41:23you for clarifying that. Yeah. So you're talking
- 41:33specifically about age groups. Now, having a
- 41:39child myself who's neurodivergent, sometimes
- 41:42their physical age does not reflect their mental
- 41:47or emotional age. And so I've been able to, in
- 41:52the past, get my daughter into, like, we had
- 41:57Outschool. There's something she wanted to do
- 41:59on Outschool .com. Yes! Very familiar. Yeah, totally!
- 42:03And so they had a certain cutoff age at, like,
- 42:0615. My daughter was 16, 17. Yeah, 17. But really,
- 42:16she was really on the same developmental level.
- 42:19And so they let her in after a conversation.
- 42:22Do you.. are y 'all flexible in that? That is
- 42:25an amazing question. So at this time, we can
- 42:31serve children up to age 13. I mean, 12, sorry,
- 42:3512 in the particular program that we're offering
- 42:41right now. We do want to expand in the future.
- 42:45to serve older children as well. And we're excited
- 42:47about that. But, you know, one thing at a time.
- 42:50There is some flexibility as far as if your child
- 42:54is under 12 or, you know, if they're 13 or 14,
- 42:58but they have 11 or 12 year old development capacity,
- 43:01like contact us. We'll talk about it. Yeah, there
- 43:04is potential for that. That's such a relief
- 43:07to hear that because, you know, it's just so
- 43:10frustrating when you're confined in a certain
- 43:13age number, but you don't conform to that age
- 43:16number. Right. Narrative... Right. Right now. Well,
- 43:21already with the two programs that we do offer,
- 43:23the preschool and the Nature Wise, those are
- 43:27all mixed age classes. And so like our preschool
- 43:30is for children ages three through six. And then
- 43:33our nature wise program is children six through
- 43:3512. In the preschool, we have a ratio of six
- 43:40kids to one teacher. And then in the Nature Ways
- 43:44program, we're doing eight kids to one teacher.
- 43:47And sometimes two. It just depends on the kids.
- 43:52But generally, I was going to say, we may do more
- 43:56teachers for those numbers. But generally, that's
- 44:01what we do. So the kids just have... And even
- 44:05though there are all those different ages together,
- 44:08there is a lot of similarity developmentally.
- 44:10And something that we're really excited about
- 44:12is how the younger children interact and the
- 44:18older children interact. You know, if you have
- 44:20a five -year -old and a three -year -old, they're
- 44:22going to be similar in some ways and different
- 44:23in some ways. And they can work together and
- 44:25help each other. I mean, that's how we appear
- 44:31on the planet naturally as humans. We don't all
- 44:34just come out as like, you know, I personally
- 44:37prefer not to just have all one age of kids all
- 44:41together all the time. I feel like they just
- 44:43learn a lot more together being able to help
- 44:45each other and teach each other things with those
- 44:48mixed age groups. So that's like as far as lesson
- 44:53planning or activities that we do, anything that
- 44:57we're offering the kids, there's this whole range
- 45:00of how different children are going to do the
- 45:03same project based on who they are, their own
- 45:06expression, and where they're at developmentally
- 45:11as far as their interest levels, their skills,
- 45:13their capacity to engage in different ways practically
- 45:16as far as like crafting. learning about something
- 45:20and then how do we express about what we just
- 45:22learned it might be drawing it might be talking
- 45:24about it it might be writing about it and that's
- 45:27um or making a craft or whatever um or it might
- 45:32be going and teaching about it right to the group
- 45:35in a different way so anyway that's kind of a
- 45:37little bit about our approach, which I feel is
- 45:39relevant, around mixed age (R: Definitely.) groups, is
- 45:41like, there's um there's a lot of opportunity
- 45:45for the kids to just engage together and also
- 45:49be met in their own unique development so yeah
- 45:53so the age is like a little a little bit more
- 45:55flexible i feel like thank you for for uh for
- 45:58explaining that thank you so much. Good. What is
- 46:02the process for enrollment? Yeah.. so you can just
- 46:06email ferngullyschool@gmail .com or go to
- 46:10our website communitynature .org programs Cool.
- 46:15And so you said you're not part of OSD, but you
- 46:18do follow the OSD school calendar? Correct. And
- 46:23the enrollment is around those periods of time?
- 46:26Correct. Yes, we have open enrollment currently.
- 46:28We only have a few spaces left in our preschools
- 46:30or kindergarten program, but we do have more
- 46:33availability in our new Nature Wise program. Awesome.
- 46:38How do you handle accessibility? Have you had
- 46:42to manage with disabled students, children, wheelchairs?
- 46:48What is the accessibility? We do have wheelchair
- 46:50accessibility at our new Community Nature Center.
- 46:53So that is a big part of our mission for the
- 46:57new programs to make it more accessible for all
- 47:00people of all income levels and all ability levels.
- 47:04Awesome. Awesome. And what about language accessibility?
- 47:10So do you have anyone bilingual with your teachers?
- 47:13Not at this time, no. We've had Spanish bilingual
- 47:15teachers in the past, and we are always looking
- 47:20for that. It's always a great thing to have.
- 47:23Awesome. It's just not a particular service that
- 47:25we offer at this time. And I saw something about
- 47:28community projects on your website? Now we have
- 47:31some really fun community events and projects.
- 47:33You can come in and help us pull ivy off of the
- 47:37trees, there's an invasive English ivy, there is..
- 47:40in the spring we often do like a spring equinox
- 47:46egg hunt where the kids get to go and do an egg
- 47:48hunt in the forest, that the parents come and
- 47:50they're doing like a trash panda competition
- 47:52to see who can pick up the most and clean up
- 47:55the most. So we do restoration work in the forest
- 47:57as well as just some really fun community projects.
- 48:01There's gardens, especially at the new place..
- 48:03we have a community garden space that we're working
- 48:05to develop. So it really just depends on each
- 48:10person's individual interests and how they want
- 48:11to contribute. Welcome to send us an email. Again,
- 48:14ferngullyschool@ gmail .com, and just let us
- 48:17know if they want to get involved and be a part
- 48:19of these fun projects. Yeah. And we're always
- 48:21looking for ideas for projects, activities, events,
- 48:26teachings, skill shares from members of our community
- 48:32here in the local Olympia area or the South Sound.
- 48:37uh people who are drawn to or share our values
- 48:41and our mission for the kids and the community
- 48:43and the forest um to come like get in touch with
- 48:48us come check out the property check out the
- 48:50forest check out the space that we have we want
- 48:53to be uh gosh we want to be able to foster teachings
- 49:00trainings skill shares um uh what's another word
- 49:07for like practices like um you know different
- 49:11healing practices or activating practices you
- 49:14know it could be um different types of workshops
- 49:17if people want to come and get in touch with
- 49:20us about collaborating with us on the property
- 49:24that we have to do community events that also
- 49:27we may not have thought of yet or we may not
- 49:30teach ourselves We're always interested in, again,
- 49:35just collaborating. Please reach out to us if
- 49:37anybody's interested in collaborating to help
- 49:40create more resiliency and sharing of information
- 49:43and good community practices. That's why we have
- 49:49the Community Nature Center now. That's the heart
- 49:52of it. It's a relatively new space to us still,
- 49:56but we're really excited on being able to host
- 49:58more things like that and collaborate. More and
- 50:02more. Awesome. It has a nice big open community
- 50:05gathering space. There's also a kitchen. So we're
- 50:08looking at doing family cooking classes, maybe
- 50:11some parent support groups and different things
- 50:13like that there. Wonderful. Do you work with
- 50:17indigenous tribes? Yeah, we work with Squaxin
- 50:20Island tribe and we're partnering with them more
- 50:22and more as we're developing this new program,
- 50:25the Nature Wise curriculum. So they have some
- 50:28really amazing ethnobotany curriculum. It's the
- 50:33Cedar Box curriculum that they have at Squaxin
- 50:35Island. We've also worked with Nisqually Tribe
- 50:37as well. So we are always open to partnering
- 50:41more as well. So if anyone has connections and
- 50:44resources, please reach out. Fabulous. And then
- 50:50how can people get involved? Yeah, reach out
- 50:53to us and we can add you to our mailing list,
- 50:56our email list. For starters, if we have work
- 50:59parties or events upcoming, people can just reach
- 51:02out and come ask to go take a tour if they're
- 51:06interested in enrollment. We have tours available
- 51:10regularly for any families who are interested
- 51:14in the school. And then if there are any practitioners
- 51:16or people who would just like to get involved
- 51:20and help out. somehow with the land or the property,
- 51:24just reach out to us and say, hey, we're interested.
- 51:27There's lots of ways to be involved. Bilingual
- 51:30teachers. Wildlife scientists, wildlife biologists.
- 51:34Is there anything else y 'all would like to share?
- 51:37We're just really excited to be able to share
- 51:39this with the community. It is, of course, very
- 51:42word of mouth to get it out there for our new
- 51:45programs, especially for the Nature Wise for 6
- 51:48to 12 year olds. So if you know any kids of that
- 51:51age, please share with them. Share as much as
- 51:55you can. We do believe that if all kids were
- 51:59able to get this kind of an education, we would
- 52:01have a very different world. So it gives us hope
- 52:04for the future. Yeah. I'm really excited that
- 52:08we can offer that program as well. That's like
- 52:10my big celebration right now. I love our preschool
- 52:13too and the community events and everything.
- 52:15I love that, but particularly offering such an
- 52:19amazing program for children who are generally
- 52:22referred to as school age and being able to just
- 52:26get them outside. Just get them outside. I want
- 52:32people to know that We have that program available
- 52:35throughout the school year for school -aged children,
- 52:39ages 7 through 12. Please come talk to us. Please
- 52:42call us. Please look us up. Please book a tour.
- 52:45Know that our goal is to just get as many kids
- 52:50outside and thriving as we can. And give them
- 52:56an experience where they don't have to mask socially.
- 53:00Given an experience where they don't have to
- 53:03sit still. You know, they can find their own
- 53:07times of enjoying stillness. We all do. But that
- 53:11that's not based on demands. Yeah, I love all
- 53:14the studies that show how important it is for
- 53:16children's brain development to be moving. And
- 53:19especially at this age and school age, the primary
- 53:24learning is not usually. incorporated with movement
- 53:29when it needs to be. It shows, you know, in many
- 53:33studies that children need to be spinning or
- 53:35turning upside down or having a lot more brain
- 53:38breaks, body breaks in order to actually be able
- 53:40to learn. So I just really love all those studies
- 53:44that show that. Also, the studies that show that
- 53:47kids need to be outside three to six hours a
- 53:49day. Like, how many kids are actually getting
- 53:52that? Well, unless they're on devices, if they
- 53:55know that they can. I think most of them will.
- 53:59If they've ever been introduced to the joy of
- 54:02being outside, being barefoot in the grass or
- 54:06the dirt or growing something or playing in a
- 54:09creek or climbing a tree or hiding in the forest
- 54:12under the ferns, playing some kind of fun tag
- 54:14game. Some children haven't had those experiences,
- 54:18but ones that have will naturally crave that
- 54:20and want that and want to do that more. "I want
- 54:23to go outside. I want to go outside. I want to
- 54:24go outside." That's what kids say. you know, once
- 54:26they know that life. And we just want to make
- 54:29sure that the kids around here can come play
- 54:32in the forest. We got it. We got it for you.
- 54:36Come play in it. And yeah, we are always very
- 54:41excited about any other foundations, businesses,
- 54:45individuals, grants. who can help us to continue
- 54:49fundraising to save Fern Gully Forest and also
- 54:53augment our capacity for scholarships. And so
- 54:58we can keep paying our teachers, and pay them
- 55:00better too. So that's our need for the fundraising.
- 55:05So yeah, we're here. Come visit. Come take a
- 55:09tour. Come check it out. Meet us and see if we
- 55:12can offer that service. awesome thank you both
- 55:15so very much for being here thank you for having
- 55:19us yeah thank you it's a pleasure to share If
- 55:29you would like to check out or contact the Community
- 55:32Nature Foundation and Fern Gully Forest School,
- 55:35you can email them at ferngullyschool @gmail
- 55:39.com or call 360 -305 -0021 or find them online
- 55:48at either communitynature .org or ferngullyschool
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