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Jaguars Happy Hour | Gladstone's Draft Strategy, No First-Round Pick, Late-Round Gems · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: And now the newest Funko pop sold out in stores
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  Speaker 2: all across North Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Jay E p h what are those? I mean? Hell wow,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. This is If you're
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  Speaker 2: on Jaguars dot com you can see this. This is
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shadwick. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that is on the screen on your right. We're at
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  Speaker 2: the Hyundai studios of the Miller Electric Center.
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  Speaker 1: Test drive a.
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  Speaker 1: And here's what's coming up on the show today.
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  Speaker 2: Logoman and Lane Jeff Logoman, Austin Lane Will.
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  Speaker 1: We're about a week to the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 2: We'll dig into a little bit of that in the
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  Speaker 2: history of James Gladstone picking later in drafts with their
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  Speaker 2: first selection in l A off season program begins Monday,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll go around the NFL and yes, we will
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  Speaker 2: preview the Hunt, which is back on tonight. We're on
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  Speaker 2: ten text l AM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logman Hello, what's happening Austin Lane? Hello?
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  Speaker 2: Logoman and Lane or something go with you know, Logoman
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  Speaker 2: and Lane. Very expensive law firm. Oh yeah, that would
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  Speaker 2: be well, if we could bill high, that'd be good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely good.
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  Speaker 2: Billable hours important exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Here we are a week to the draft.
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  Speaker 2: We got off season program coming up on Monday, strengthen
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  Speaker 2: and conditioning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I want to go back.
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  Speaker 2: In time a little bit because you know, the week
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  Speaker 2: leading up to the draft, when when you were drafted
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  Speaker 2: Austin and when I was drafted, it's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: tense kind of a feel about where you're at and
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  Speaker 2: what's going to be happening. And the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I will share, I'll never forget how nervous I was
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  Speaker 2: going towards the draft that, you know what, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to have anything happened to where I could.
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  Speaker 1: Get hurt, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely cautious in everything you did.
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  Speaker 1: Bubble wrap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean seriously, you almost wanted to wrap yourself
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  Speaker 2: in bubble wrap cause you're like, man, I can't let
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  Speaker 2: anything happen because if something does, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're not wrong, and especially like you know,
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  Speaker 3: me being a small school guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was so stressed out because there's anywhere from the
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  Speaker 3: second round grade to an undrafted pre agent. So I
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  Speaker 3: literally had no idea where I was going to go.
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  Speaker 3: So like, you know, I'm watching because back then it
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  Speaker 3: was you know, you had the first and in the
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  Speaker 3: second round at the same night. I believe it was
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  Speaker 3: so like I'm watching that night thinking, all right, could
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  Speaker 3: be me here?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Nope, all right, next night then could be me here,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not right then the following night. So it's definitely
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  Speaker 3: a stressful time. And I mean everyone handles it differently.
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  Speaker 3: Some people want to throw the giant parties. Some people
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  Speaker 3: want to be a little more low key.
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  Speaker 1: We can't do would you do?
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  Speaker 3: So I was just in good old you know I
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  Speaker 3: always Scandinavia, Wisconsin. Had about ten of my closest friends there.
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  Speaker 3: We celebrated and then actually went to my friend's beer
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  Speaker 3: league baseball game, and like all the cameras caught up
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  Speaker 3: with me there. It's like all like the news stations
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  Speaker 3: came to a beer league baseball game. They interviewed me
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  Speaker 3: about getting drafted. Yeah that's cool, Yeah, what about you?
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  Speaker 1: Low key family?
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  Speaker 2: And a couple of friends and I lived at a place.
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  Speaker 2: It was called I don't remember. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: like fifty six Hanover Street or something. That dress was
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  Speaker 2: kind of wild, and we actually called it Hangover Street.
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  Speaker 2: We had a lot of parties back in college, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and so we we had a gathering at Hangover Street
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  Speaker 2: and my former coach, my former strength coach and family
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  Speaker 2: and that was about it. And then the phone call
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  Speaker 2: came pretty quick, you know, so we have to wait
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  Speaker 2: around a whole big amount of time. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just remember though, the in the weeks
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  Speaker 2: leading up to it, that, you know, because then here's
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  Speaker 2: the other crazy thing. How many phone calls did you
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  Speaker 2: get in the days leading up to the draft? People
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  Speaker 2: checking on you to make sure you haven't been hit
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  Speaker 2: by train?
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  Speaker 3: I was getting phone calls from like my college friends
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  Speaker 3: during the draft like that.
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  Speaker 1: There's not cool. Oh there's an unmarked number and it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: also want something. I'm like, hello, who is this? Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Remember this is Josh. This is Josh from your science
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  Speaker 1: class man, pressed from your go what do you want
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Like this is like the bat line you get me
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  Speaker 1: calling this one?
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  Speaker 2: So here's the comparison of two eras, right, cell phone era? Yeah, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's calling them on a cell phone. Okay, no cell
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  Speaker 2: phone era? True, No, no, no, no, we have cell phones barely.
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  Speaker 2: It was a house phone. It was the Hangover street
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  Speaker 2: like you know, rotary dial. No, no, no, no, no, it
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  Speaker 2: was I was push button. But I mean we had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and you know, of course, the first thing
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  Speaker 2: you do when you wake up on draft days, you're
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  Speaker 2: checking the phone constantly, making sure that it's working. Hey man,
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  Speaker 2: can you can you go next door and call me
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that it's working? Two eras right, there,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. So yeah, that's all coming up
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  Speaker 2: next week. Jaguars hold eleven picks. The first comes at
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  Speaker 2: number fifty six overall, and you know, first time ever
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  Speaker 2: the Jags haven't had a first round draft pick. And
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  Speaker 2: the interesting thing too, is that you know, in most years,
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  Speaker 2: and you know this about me, JP has all watched
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  Speaker 2: like fifty prospects, you know, just to get an idea
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  Speaker 2: of the first round. And because you know, I mean
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, you got to kind of be prepared.
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  Speaker 2: And we're doing a radio show for the first round.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, now, that they're in the second round
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  Speaker 2: and not picking until fifty six. Well, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: was sitting there going, is what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Watch one hundred and twenty?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right next?
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  Speaker 2: I mean so I was like, No, I said, I'll
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  Speaker 2: just waiting and after the draft, you know, really dive
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  Speaker 2: into the film of those guys and be able to
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  Speaker 2: give everybody kind of my honest opinion about them. But
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  Speaker 2: leading up to the draft, I mean, because the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: aren't in the first round, I think it kind of
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  Speaker 2: takes a lot of the I guess you could say
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  Speaker 2: the splash, you know, sales job of the draft. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of toned down.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit. No, I thought of doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to ask you guys this then, because obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when when you pick in the first round,
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  Speaker 3: you pick for need, right, But when you start talking
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  Speaker 3: about the second and third rounds, well then it's like
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  Speaker 3: do you pick for need? And there's some needs every
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  Speaker 3: team's got needs, right, But do you pick for that
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  Speaker 3: need or do you take the more intangibly rich approach
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  Speaker 3: and do you take the best player available?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's a great question in what they
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  Speaker 2: will do. I don't know But the one thing I
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  Speaker 2: think about that I've learned about James Gladstone is that
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  Speaker 2: they really put a lot of stock into production and
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  Speaker 2: production of what the player had at the college level
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  Speaker 2: that they believe can translate to the professional level. And
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  Speaker 2: they also want to make sure that there's no questions
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  Speaker 2: in the background, there's no questions about health. They like,
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  Speaker 2: they believe in and making solid picks. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be really interesting to me to see
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  Speaker 2: which position that they lean towards, because I believe and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know necessarily what James believes about this. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you can ask him that when you get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to talk to them, is you know, is that how
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  Speaker 2: do you approach the draft when it comes to position
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  Speaker 2: ranking positions as far as the importance of So let's
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  Speaker 2: say you have an equal grade. One guy's an edge
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  Speaker 2: player and the other one is the safety grades are
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  Speaker 2: the same, you know which one would you take? Do
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  Speaker 2: you do you give the advantage to the edge player
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  Speaker 2: because it's maybe a more premium position in your eyes
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  Speaker 2: correct or maybe you got a need at safety, but
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  Speaker 2: then you go that way because there's a need. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's an interesting question about how they will make
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  Speaker 2: the selection. And the great thing is about this draft
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  Speaker 2: for this football teams that they've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: selection because the reality is is that the draft is
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  Speaker 2: a percentage business. You're not going to hit on all
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  Speaker 2: of them. So the more picks you get, the better
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  Speaker 2: chance you actually have of hitting on the pick itself.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and if you see where James Gladstone has come
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  Speaker 3: from two in the Rams, they've made some of their
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  Speaker 3: money on late round picks, on guys that maybe have
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  Speaker 3: a knock here and knock the other teams kind of
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  Speaker 3: look past the Rams take them and they have immediate
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  Speaker 3: success on that Rams team.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, even.
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  Speaker 3: Though there's not a first round pick to be had
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  Speaker 3: right now, we'll see how it pans out and everything.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching the second, third, fourth, fifth rounds just because,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, in James Gladstone, I trust where it's
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  Speaker 3: like even a fourth or fifth round pick might come
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  Speaker 3: in and make a big difference right away.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, His late round picks last year did the
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  Speaker 2: same thing, you know, So I mean that's what excites
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  Speaker 2: me about the draft and James Bladstone. Then of course,
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  Speaker 2: James Gladstone with the La Rams before here, and they
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  Speaker 2: have a history there of you know, saying bleep those picks.
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  Speaker 2: And there's seven of the nine years that James Gladstone
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  Speaker 2: was in LA he had different roles there. He was
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  Speaker 2: a scouting assistant, he was assistant to the GM, but
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of these years he was in charge
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of building the draft for Les Sneak.
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  Speaker 2: So seven of the nine years that he was there,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have a first round pick, and in one
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  Speaker 2: instance their first selection they made was in the third
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  Speaker 2: round eighty nineth to overall in twenty eighteen. These are
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  Speaker 2: just if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com, just the
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  Speaker 2: first picks of those drafts. And to your point about
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  Speaker 2: deeper in the draft, I mean twenty nineteen, there's still
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  Speaker 2: five of those guys in that draft that are still
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  Speaker 2: playing in the NFL. Been really good. Well, no seventh
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  Speaker 2: round pick.
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  Speaker 1: One of them.
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  Speaker 3: And then I think you talked I think it was
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. I mean, one of the best wide
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  Speaker 3: receivers right now in the NFL is pookin Nakua. And
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  Speaker 3: you want to talk about doing your due diligence and
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  Speaker 3: doing your home with pookin Nakua, You know, This was
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  Speaker 3: a guy who comes out of BYU who wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: fastest dude and didn't necessarily have the best numbers. He
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  Speaker 3: has heard of every once in a while, dude has
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  Speaker 3: a pro Dad runs a four or five something.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and you know how the pronate goes.
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  Speaker 3: You're in a proda, You're you're running downhill's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be like a course or fast track everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fast track everything. So he runs a four or five.
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  Speaker 3: So not the most athletic guy was actually third to
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  Speaker 3: last in terms of advanced analytics in terms of athleticism.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he goes to the combine and he runs the
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  Speaker 1: gauntlet drill.
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  Speaker 3: Now you're talking about an athlete who was third to
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  Speaker 3: like the slowest in terms of all the metrics.
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  Speaker 1: He runs the gauntlet. You know that the Joe they'd.
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  Speaker 3: Run straight and that had the fastest time. Now, you
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  Speaker 3: don't mean to tell me. I don't want to put
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  Speaker 3: James Gladstone's you know, step out there, But you mean
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  Speaker 3: to tell me James Gladstone a company didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: stop Watch going for that gauntlet. Joe thinking like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well if he's the fastest runner in the gauntlet, Joe
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  Speaker 3: and he's got hands, maybe we can find, you know,
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  Speaker 3: some kind of need for him and lo and behold,
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  Speaker 3: Pooking Nikol became Pooku Nikuhan one of the best wide
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  Speaker 3: receivers in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I hope his world is okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I hope he's getting what he needs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to get the help. You know, he's had some issues
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  Speaker 2: here recently. But but you know, I think the other
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  Speaker 2: thing too, is that we have a how many times
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  Speaker 2: do you ever see people go back and give a
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  Speaker 2: draft grade to a draft that happened three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think Prisko knows that occasionally.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know, that's actually would be
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  Speaker 2: a better way of grading drafts instead of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the immediate response the day after the draft, well we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna give.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars a hindsight twenty twenty draft.
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  Speaker 2: I like it, yeah, I mean, because you know, after
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  Speaker 2: even after one year, sometimes you give a draft a
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  Speaker 2: grade and you go, okay, well, then three years later you're.
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  Speaker 1: Going to change the draft grade completely.
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  Speaker 2: Pete Prisco actually does this, which is the smartest sports
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  Speaker 2: Then he puts it on there, so he does three
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  Speaker 2: years later.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's genius. I gotta go back and look genius.
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  Speaker 1: That's over selling Pete a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So peach my guy, He's okay, genius.
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  Speaker 1: Peach my guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect example. Let's let's look back
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  Speaker 2: to the twenty thirteen Jaguars draft, which was Dave Caldwell's
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  Speaker 2: first draft. And after the conclusion of that draft, we
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  Speaker 2: felt pretty good about it. But we feel good about
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  Speaker 2: all the drafts after the completion of it, right, and
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  Speaker 2: then after the season you look at the draft, you go, man,
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  Speaker 2: that was a really good draft. Well, the reality was
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  Speaker 2: this football team at that point was void of talent.
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  Speaker 2: So all of these draft picks essentially played. And so
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  Speaker 2: after that first year, with the production that they had,
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  Speaker 2: you were going, oh, man, this was.
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  Speaker 1: A great draft. Great draft.
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  Speaker 2: You know, from top to bottom, everybody play, they contributed.
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  Speaker 1: But then you fast.
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  Speaker 2: Forward to year three or four and grade that draft
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  Speaker 2: and you go, f yeah, you would change the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want Pete Prisco's greater of the twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars class, I've got it right anyway. So the twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirteen grade immediately after which he does is a yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: They took Luke jocals second overall. You know, while he
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  Speaker 2: isn't a pro bow caliber pick, no, no, no, go
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  Speaker 2: through all of them, because after you make that, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna give you a comment after year one. So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's just an article. It's the skinny, it's the how
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  Speaker 2: I did and the new grade. Let me give you
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  Speaker 2: a player because I pulled them up because this is
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  Speaker 2: I think a perfect exercise of what I think fans
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  Speaker 2: need to kind of be aware of as they look
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  Speaker 2: at this draft. So they had Luke Jocal in round one,
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Sippriy in the safety in round two, Dwayne groutch
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  Speaker 2: the corner out of Yukon, and round three, a Sanders
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver South Carolina. Round four, Denar Robinson weapons right
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  Speaker 2: in round five, Josh Evans safety, round six, Jeremy Harris
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  Speaker 2: defensive back, round seven, Demetrius McCrae defensive back round seven.
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  Speaker 2: At the conclusion of the year, Okay, Luke jokel was
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  Speaker 2: your starting left tackle, Cyprian was your starting safety, Grout's
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  Speaker 2: starting corner, A Sanders third three, number three wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: Donaro Robinson were like, gosh, the possibilities of what they
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  Speaker 2: can do with him. Fast forward a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: after that, and all of a sudden, these guys were
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  Speaker 2: out of the league, some of them were, and they
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  Speaker 2: weren't even playing. So three years later, but we thought
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  Speaker 2: after year one it was a great been Priscoe great
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  Speaker 2: that an A minus draft immediately, and then three years
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  Speaker 2: later he said, how I did. I questioned them for
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  Speaker 2: not taking a pass rusher in the first five rounds.
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  Speaker 2: That's been a problem. They should have taken Ziggy Onsa
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  Speaker 2: in the first. I did like to pick a Cyprio
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  Speaker 2: on the second and like Robinson as my third day
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  Speaker 2: Jim the new grade C minus at best, and that.
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  Speaker 1: Was in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he did twenty seventeen, it would further
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  Speaker 2: drop down. And if you did in twenty eighteen, Luke
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  Speaker 2: jokel I think it was out of the league by then,
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  Speaker 2: it would probably drop down to an F. And so
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  Speaker 2: again it's it's you know, because the reason I kind
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  Speaker 2: of bring that up because there was a comment by
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  Speaker 2: Howie Roseman this week and he talks about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you draft a guy you're looking for maximum production in
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  Speaker 2: year three, not necessarily to walk in the door, and
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  Speaker 2: then just you know, be an instant contributor in an
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  Speaker 2: instant star I mean, which would be nice. But he said,
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to pick guys that can become eventual high
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  Speaker 2: level players.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, and that draft.
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  Speaker 2: Right there did not have an eventual high level player.
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  Speaker 2: And so a lot of people are looking at the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars draft from last year and are saying the first
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  Speaker 2: response is that it wasn't a very productive draft. They
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  Speaker 2: did not get a lot of production. And I've heard
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  Speaker 2: that this week on Sports Talk Great. Well, well, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of production on it. Well wait
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: a minute, let's look back at the twenty thirteen and
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: apply a little common sense evaluation of that draft and
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: then kind of use that, okay mindset for looking at
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: this past draft that the Jaguars have. Let's not sit
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: there and say, well, they'd have a whole of production. Well, look,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: it was year one and some guys got hurt. Let's
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: see where it goes. See this is where logs you've aired.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: You've you're asking for common sense from sports talk radio. Yeah,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: come on, now, that's impossible. Come on now, let's keep
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: it realistic here. I try, Yeah, put a little common
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: sense into it.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: But Jeff at the end of the day, and like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: this is what people really need to understand, is that
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: you're coming off of a thirteen win season, and yes,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: you've lost some pieces in some pretty key spots. But
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: at the same time, like, how many guys do you
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: expect to realistically come in this year and this year's
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: draft class and make the difference? You know, I mean,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: maybe you're gonna have one or two guys here or there,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: but keep in mind it may take him a couple
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: of years to get acclimated. Parker Washington is a classic example,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean he was a later on guy
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: four or five. Yeah, later round guy, but obviously we
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: saw glimpses in camp and he probably gets his opportunity
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: and now you know, he's one of the best wide
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: receivers on the roster. Brenton Strange was a guy who
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: was drafted really high. You know, had to sit behind
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Evan Ingram a little bit and people were thinking, where's
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Brenton strains Brent Well, look at him last year, right,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: So sometimes it's going to take a player maybe one
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: or two years to actually acclimate and be able to contribute,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: whether you're taking this second round or later round.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they've got established veterans that are going
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to be starting and playing on this team. Twenty thirteen
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: did not. They blew it up down to the studs,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and the rookies had to. I'll never forget twenty thirteen.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: We we got, we shipped, We shipped Darryl Darryl Smith
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: of Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, what possesses you to get rid
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: of a guy by the name of Darryl Smith who
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: was an absolute stud.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: One of the most underrated players in I'll never forget
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: what I was told after that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: No, boy, by the time we get good, he'll be done.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: How many more years did you play?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Hedrick who plays ray Lewis, he played like
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: another four, five, six, seven years or whatever. It was
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: at a high level. I'll tell you Au, it's funny
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: because that's the year that got cut. So I got
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: cut during OTAs of that spring when Joco was come
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: and in everything. So I get cut. You know, Gus
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Badley comes in, it's a new defense. I don't pit
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: this scheme. So when I go to Kansas City, now
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: keep in mind Kansas City that the previous year had
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the same record as the Jaguars, right, like two wins
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: or whatever. Kansas City picked first, Eric Fisher, j Wars
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: pick second, Luke JOKEL. I get to Kansas City and
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I see that locker room, I see all the guys.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this feels a lot different than it did
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. And I go to at the time was
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Derek Johnson, linebacker, and I go, I don't know how
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: you guys won two games last season, but like, I
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: think there's gonna be a little more wins here. And
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, man, I was just coaching and everything whatever,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: but like you could feel the difference, and it's with
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the players.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: And le Tomba ah Lee.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: You had justin Houston, I mean, you had Eric Berry,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: you had so many guys that help people accountable, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: then leaving Jacksonville, you just didn't have that, and especially
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: losing guys like Darryl Smith didn't help.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment plenty ahead. A little later,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: we'll get the Hunch preview. It's back tonight at seven o'clock.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: We'll get a teaser coming up in just a little bit.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: The off season program begins Monday. Plenty more ahead, It's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: What we'll really focus on is taking players that we
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: feel have a very clear fit within the way we operate,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: regardless of what that might mean in terms of the
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: outward perspective. Right, it's what fits us at what makes
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: sense to us, and at the end of the day,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: if they help us win football games, that's a win
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: for the Baguar.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You don't care.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: You know, typically typically it's not the spot we put
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: the energy in. Right, I wasn't good with grades even
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: back in elementary school, So why be good at them now?
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It's wins and loss.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: James Gladstone last week pre draft luncheon was asking them.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Right after his first part of the answer by Liam
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Cohen sent beside him, you don't care about your draft grades?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Man, Thanks, welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadick.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Jeff log them in Austin Lane with us this week. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: what are that Jaguars dot Com. I'll tell you what
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: are these that? They're called funko pops.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I have the collector about why they're called what funk
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: calls like fun company fun? It's f you n k okay,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I think a sense of funk. They don't move, They're
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: just like plastic little Uh. I don't know you move either,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean they're coming in a box and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: you can get them like you get them custom made,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: like I have one of my own that my son
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: gave me for my birthday one year.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of similarities there for we need some
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: glasses on that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, welcome back. That was James Gladstone. Of course. Uh,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: we'll hear.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Actually, we're gonna hear I think from obviously when.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: The draft happens.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We'll hear from James Gladstone after picks and things throughout
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm not sure the full schedule yet of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that coming up next week because there's no first round pick,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: but we'll have any of from access to the front
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: office coaching staff with the Jaguars throughout the draft in
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: our coverage on Jaguars dot Com. Another part and one
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: final thought on the at least the draft coming up.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: They've announced each year they have legends that come in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to do picks, announced picks. The Jaguars legend announcing the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: picks this year, Paul puzz Lesnie the pause.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Man, he's gonna do the picks.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And the second question, because you say puzz, I say, pause, Yeah, yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: is it puzz or pause?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's whatever he wants it to be.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I think I don't know he's to call him pause
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: misters and Jaguars history, mister Lesnie to me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm really curious, like will you be getting all
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: workout like in the green room when before he's going
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: out now, because that dude stays being fit.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: He's one of the most what.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you go back into the Jaguars
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: history and he is one of the most well conditioned
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: athletes that I've ever seen.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget when I was between teams and he
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: just tore his pectoral and I think he played like
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: an entire game on it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Had he get surgery.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Literally two days later, I'm at the gym trainings to
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: hope to get another shot, and I see Puzzing there
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: literally his arm in a slaying two days after surgery,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: bench pressing one hundred and I think, goes twenty pounds
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: with one arm, And I go to Hi'm like, dude,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: used had surgery.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Relax, Like what are you like?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I got to get a workout, And I'm like, all right, man,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you're better than I am.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: He was He was like, you're like a machine.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I mean he was literally like a machine. And his pregame,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: oh my god, routine workout and all that. I mean
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I used to watch it and go. I couldn't do
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that as a player. I mean I think I would
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: have been gassed. I'm exhausted watching it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that always had respect because the guys that
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: don't listen to music in their headphones before the games
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: are the ones who gotta watch out for. And Puzz
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: is one of those guys, you know what mean, like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just kind of vibing. I got some you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: like dance music or DM music. Puzz just sitting at
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: his locker, maybe handing the playbook a little bit and
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: then just staring, just staring, getting ready to go.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you're on a different level. He was.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Watching him and Telvin Smith play was was so fun
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: because when when you watched Paz and Telvin, you had
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: two very different players, very different players. Pause was always
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: taking a step in the right direction immediately, and that
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was his thing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, he.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Studied, he watched film, and he got there extremely fast
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: because he anticipated plays. Telvin didn't anticipate, but they'd get
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: there at the same time because Telvin was so fast,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you know, at what two hundred and five pounds or
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: whatever it was that he weighed. And you know, the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Jaguars have been been blessed with two of the greatest
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: conditioned stamina linebackers to Foyer, Lucan and his Lusbie.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Those two guys they could go forever.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned Darryl Smith too as well as one
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: of the greatest. And I'll say this, like one thing
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that goes unchecked a lot of times out linebacker. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: got to put Darryl Smith and pause Man and those
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: guys not only were they in the right spot at
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: the right time, but they always got you lined up.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You know, like if you're a gap over, they were
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: gonna quick tap on the butt say hey man.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Move on like that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: They always anticipated what the play was gonna be and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: then they helped you succeed as well. I mean, my
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: first sack in the league came because Darryl Smith went
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: above and beyond and do his job and made my
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: job really easy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Speaking of linebacker, what kind of linebacker you're looking forward to?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Backfield Devin Lloyd Austin to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Try to replace Devin Lynde. Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know, so when you look at what Devin Lloyd
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: did really well that the guy was, you know, he
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: made his money this year, I feel like, I mean,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I get he had a lot of interceptions, but if
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you watch the film, he did a great job of blitzing.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't only blitzing, but it was also running
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the games. In blitzing, sir.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of linebackers out there that can come downhill,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: hit a gap and you're good to go. But there's
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: not a lot of linebackers that are actually pass rush
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: savvy that can set picks out of Texas and exits
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them these days, and help out,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: you know, defensive tackles and defensive ends. So if I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: looking at a guy because I see Ventro Miller who
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: is very dependable in the run game, you know a chance, yeah,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: of course. And listen, any guy that puts Derrick Henry
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: on his back one on one has my respect, right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But if I'm looking for a.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Guy to replace Devin Lloyd, I'm gonna need a guy
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: that's athletic, that is not afraid to blitz and also
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: run those games.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be hard. And here's
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think the one in a perfect world, you'd find
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: somebody that has that skill set Austin that you're talking
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: about the ability to blitz the athletic side. But there
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: were some weaknesses to Devin Lloyd's game too, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and so you'd like to get somebody that. Look, if
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they're not as adept in that particular category of being
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a blitzer, then being better in space can also help
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the defense in a different way. And that was kind
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: of where Devin Lloyd sometimes became a little bit of
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: a liability. I mean that's just fact. I mean, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: had to be very careful what you did with him
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: in coverage because if he had to cover somebody in
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: coverage didn't work out.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So well sometimes.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: So it's not going to be easy to replace him,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: especially the level of production and the impact plays that
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: he had last year, which was simply fantastic.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't count that every year either from
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a lineback.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: No, and you didn't get that every year from Devin
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Lloyd either and or from any other linebacker for that
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: as well. I mean, look, I mean honestly, it's not
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that's not that kind of position. There were times early
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: in Devin Lloyd's career that that he It was very
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: frustrating for the coaches and I think also for Foyer
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Luakin because he was having to get Devn lined up
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: a lot. And then as he grew then they moved
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: him to Mike linebacker and moved Foyer under the Urban
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Myer experiment, which was a complete and utter train wreck.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: When they did it, I was like, what are you doing.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You're taking your best player in Foyer Luken, who's been
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: playing Mike and he's the captain of the ship and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: he's making the calls, he's making the adjustments, and you're
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: taking out of him, out of the position of leadership
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and putting Devin Lloyd in there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing? Yeah?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And it didn't work out well. Then obviously the next
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: year went right back and Devinlood give him credit because
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: he worked his rear end off and played his rear
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: end off tough, available loved the way he played the game,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and one of the best dudes you ever talked to.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But he did there were times that he struggled early
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: in his career and some assignment responsibility and then the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: weakness in his game has been the coverage stuff. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I give this staff that we have right now a
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: lot of credit because they identified that from the very
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: get go with Devin Lloyd last year and so they
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: put him in the best position to where he could
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: be successful. And that's when you know you have a
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: really good coaching staff when they can look at players
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and say, look, hey, JP, you know what, you do
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: a great job of driving a bus, but you really
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: stink as an analyst, So we're going to have you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: drive the bus.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Cool, Okay, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Look, I can't drive the bus,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: got it, So I'm not going to drive the bus.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the analyst.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Audible chocolate driving the bus now, I guess so.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying, especially with Coach Camp
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: as well, Like I give him a lot of credit
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: because if you look at the interceptions, right, because you
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: look at the stats of Devi Loyd and say, well
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: he's great in coverage, Well he had a lot of receptions.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But just because the numbers say something doesn't mean that's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: actually the truth. And I think what Coach Camp did
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: a great job was disguising if he's going to drop
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: back or not. You know when they had whatever eighty
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: guys on the line and all of a sudden, Lloyd
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: drops back and they're blitzing. Well, the quarterback gets the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: ball quick and Lloyd's right there to make that reception right,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: and once again you have to make the catch and everything.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: So I think we have Devin Lloyd. But I think
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Coach Camp did a great job of realizing some deficiencies,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: whether it was at the linebacker spotting coverage, whether it was.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe interior stopping the run a little bit.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Let's bring Chevon Walker down in a four I in
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: a four point stance, help out the run game a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: little bit. I think Coach camp coming back is going
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to be a huge part of this defense going forward
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: plenty ahead.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We're back in a moment with a teaser of the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Hunt airs tonight tonight. What time seven o'clock? Awesome, that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: my nightly watch tonight.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go love the Hunt. Yep.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Back in a moment and well, yeah, we'll get into
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the off season program starting Monday as well.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Take your time off.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: That's a fair question. I think that I definitely tried
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: my best to take some steps to clear the air,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: so to speak, and zoom out.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Well at the same time.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It's when it's what you love, it's hard to detach fully.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: That is James Gladstone, one of the focus of The Hunt,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: episode one of the new season Tonight seven o'clock Jaguars
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: It's going to be awesome inside in depth look at
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars from the end of the playoff run to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: right about right now.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It's a lot to cover, guys. Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Man, they do a great job of it, Like they
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: should almost like put it in theaters or something neither
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: an extended cut or something like I'll go to the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: you know, the you know whatever theaters you want to
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: go to and check it out, and in high definition
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: in poor k why not.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a great job. They do.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And you would think that, having been involved in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: National Football League for nearly thirty years, that it wouldn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: interest me at all. I actually love it, yeah, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: mean every time it comes out, I usually watch it
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: within a day or two of it being released. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: mean I find it very compelling watchable stuff. I mean,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's about our team, you know, you get to, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: all the inner workings and the personalities of the team,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and it's fantastic.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely a sucker for it because it makes you
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: appreciate just how part of the game has come as well,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: like whether it's Hard Knocks, whether it's the Hunt. Like
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I love watching those shows because, like then, I always
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: compared to back when I played and how much it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: changed and how much of it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Still kind of stays the same as well. It's kind of.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Funny that, you know, you go back to when Hard
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Knocks first kind of came out, and it was kind
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: of groundbreaking, you know. I mean, yeah, holy man, that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: a cool you know, you get the inside look. And
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the teams in the National Football League were so resistant
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to it. They're like, no, we don't.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Want to do it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, we got to be forced
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Now teams are putting their own stuff out, which are
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: essentially Hard Knocked versions, and almost every team in the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: league is trying to do something similar. None of them
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: do it as well as the Jaguars do, but they're
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: trying to all do something similar to that Hard Knocks,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you know, to drive eyeballs and interest and and it
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: sells tickets and it's and it's fantastic.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It's great stuff.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I mean you even had players just kind of doing
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: their own thing and like doing video. Yeah yeah, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: mean players are on Twitch to kind of recording themselves, Like, Jeff,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: you could have had your own.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Hunting show back the day.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Man, you've been making millions off that missed out.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I can't do that, Okay, can't do that. But it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: funny because the players watch The Hunt as well.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure they do. Yeah, and that's pretty cool.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: So credit to the whole staff over here in the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: broadcast and production department, but Gabby Dolton and Trent Padia
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: can be into charge on that. Obviously, the football staff
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: allowing it to happen, which is amazing or that's huge.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So it's a full team effort because if you don't
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: have that, there is no there is no show exactly
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you know, awesome to see. So check that out tonight
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: seven o'clock, first episode new season of The Hunt and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Hey coming up on Monday. The voluntary portion of the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: offseason program begins strength and conditioning only Phase one for
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: two weeks. No coaches allowed in the weight room or
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: on the field, just strength and conditioning staff.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Keep those coaches out of the way, Austin. Here we go.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Absolutely voluntary joys. But volunteer. You're voluntariyot Okay, Yeah I
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: was sometimes I had no choice, but I Joe calling
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: my year, yelling at me.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I was the one of the original Jacksonville volunteers. That's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: what we call ourselves back then in nineteen ninety five. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: we volunteered more than anybody. Yeah, maybe an NFL history.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, for real, if you've counted up the number
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: of days that we had as volunteers, because this was
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: at the early beginnings of like when they established the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: number of training days, ota days, mini camps, et cetera
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that you could have, and then Coughlin and inviting acquiring
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the players to report to Stevens Point, Wisconsin there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean literally, we may.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Have had more volunteer days than any other team in
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: NFL history.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Just happen to be like the hottest summer in Wisconsin
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: history too. For you guys, you're dying, it was insane.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Did you get autographed?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I got your autograph, man, and I
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: know I got you. I think twenty Boselli's too. Yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I mean I have the program in momains. I gotta
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: bust that out sometimes. I like to see that I wasn't. Yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I was in daycare and then the daycare in Stevens
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Point took us to watch you guys do your thing,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: and yeah, I was a Jaguars fan.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I just remember when we were up there, and when
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we had a day off, we really had no means
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: of going anywhere and doing anything. Yeah, because we didn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: have any cars. We're in Stevens Point, you know, whether
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: it's that's.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: About it one and would you go pty box?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly right?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And then we somehow got a ride from a guy
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that was in town. This is funny. The first night
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that we had and I probably shouldn't be telling this story,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Well here we are. But the first night that we
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: had off in Steven's Point, Wisconsin, instead of going to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: the penalty box and drinking point beer and eating cheese curds,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: which seemed to be the thing to do sounds pretty
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: good at the penalty box, we hitched a ride from
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Oh he was our fourth round pick from Wisconsin, pulling
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: up nineteen ninety five fourth round pick defensive tackle Mike Thompson,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I think is who it was. Well, Mike was a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin had a truck there, and so he wanted to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: go home and see family. Well we said, sorry, buddy,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: you're not going home to see family on our night
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: off until you take us to the casino. Mike thoms
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: in fourth Round Picks Defensive Town. Okay, So we literally
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: piled up in the back of his pickup truck and
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: he took us and I'm not going to reveal all
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the names that were in the back of the pickup truck.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And we we go to this casino. Okay, it WASN'TI,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: it was other guys. So we get in the back
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: of this pickup truck, get dropped off of the casino.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: We have no idea how we're going to get back.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It's not like Uber back then, there's no Uber. This
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: is like one of those probably either, but there was.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I think we had a cell phone by then, but
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: this was one of the Indian reservation casinos.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe you know where it is. You got you got bowler, okay, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So it was like an hour.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I haven't been but I've heard that an hour. I
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: would say it's about hour hour. I've betten, but I
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: heard it's about hour.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: So we got dropped off, okay, and there was like
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: four of us or maybe five, and we all ride
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the back of my truck. We dropped off the casino
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: by the way Country Farmland that's it, which was nice,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: but it was, you know, one hundred degrees and we
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: get dropped off just because it was something to do.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And uh, and I'm not a gambler, but I like
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: to have a few beers and I had plenty of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: beers that night because it was the night off.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And we were.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Sitting there as the casino was about the close and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: we had no way back.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: We had zero way to get back. Taxis are rolling
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: out that far.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And fortunately we uh, we had a couple of employees
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that were very nice, young ladies that gave us a
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: ride back nice to Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and we paid
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: their gas bill and we bought them beer or whatever,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: but I can't remember what it was. But we were
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and we got back. And here's here's where.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It gets good. Wait till tom coffee. The story has
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: never been told.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I'm getting here to that. Okay, we're getting to that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I can't wait so we pull in. We got no curfew.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: We pulled into the parking lot, we got the music
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: crank where you know, beer cans a whole nine yards
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and we pull up right to the front of the dorm. Well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the front of the dorm that I was in was
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: also right there in the front room was Tom Coughlin's
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: sweet room, his room or his sweet whatever you want
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: to call it. Yeah, yeah, right, we pull up and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: sorry night, I don't we're drinking beer. We're having a
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: good time, and it's like, I don't know, two three
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in the morning, something like that, and all of a sudden,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: you saw up there at the dorm. You saw the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: curtain just.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Go just keep open and creep open and look out.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: The crack of the curtain peeled back, and somebody looked
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: down and we're like time, so get.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: The paper the next day. No, you didn't care, like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it was. I think the next day was it was.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That was the mandatory night off, which gave us the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: next day off until dinner time. Okay, so we were
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: able to recover and uh but yeah, the awful little
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Steam had some fun. Thank you Mike Thompson for the ride.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So you know, we we're sorry to delay your free
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: time with your family for a little bit. Did you
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: ever hear from Tom about it? Tom never said a word,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: never said that was gonna say, it's our night off,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I would love to have him come
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: out and have a beer with his a three.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: In the morning and department. Yeah, that's the story.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You know, my head coach in New York, Bruce Collin,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: probably would have done that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: A head coaches that was not Tom. Wow, how about
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: that funny story. We got to see the autograph book.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: We got to see it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't talk to my mom to night,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: say can get that that? Hey, let's come back. We're
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: gonna hear from Liam Cohen. He spoke last week. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: then we're gonna talk to computers.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: A computer. We're gonna type a question. Category.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: We got a category draft history not Jaguars. Okay, okay,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: yuh an NFC South Chain.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Hm.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Are we still riding with the co pilot? Is that
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: we're roll yet? Oh? That's making sure it's still I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: haven't been here a while.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Co pilots give us some answers. All right, we come
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: back on Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: You're pumping at the bid especially after going to the
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: owners meetings and talking some smack and having some fun.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But also it just feels a little.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Bit closer right as getting the guys back in the
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: building and the entire messages. We're attacking this offseason and
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: we're attacking the details. We're attacking our relationships, We're attacking
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: our communication because there's gonna there's new, there's change, there's
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: different communications and relationships that need to be blended and
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: matched and and you know, pouring into each other. Uh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: from a detail standpoint, I think that's going to be
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: key and critical.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Welliam going Jaguars Head coach show the initial message next
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: week with the offseason program beginning. Welcome Back, it is
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour Final Moments J P. Shadrick, Jeff log
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: of an Austin Lane from the Hyundai Studios at the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Midller Electric Center ten Tenexlam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: It is time for Austin's favorite segment every week, Let's
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: go Microsoft co Pilot to help us with a wild
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: move to get a certain player high on the draft.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: How many draft picks did the Saints trade to move
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: up in the nineteen ninety nine draft for Ricky Williams,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the running back.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: They traded eight total draft picks to move.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Up all ninety nine, all their ninety nine draft picks
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: rounds one, three, four, five, six, and seven, plus the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: two thousand first round pick and two thousand third round
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: pick to Washington in exchange for the number five overall pick.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: There you have it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Microsoft Copilot has all the answers. There's a lot of
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: talk around town. You can't the Jags move back up
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: in the first round and do all.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting the.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Number three or five overall, but it is going to
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: take some capital. That might be the worst draft day
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: trade in NFL history. Now the lock sided is the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: herschel Walker trade, which wasn't on Draft Day. Right was
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: a veteran and that four picks was the greatest hall
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of picks in NFL history.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Right now built the dynasty that the Cowboys.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, but this one in one draft I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: mean point, I mean it's still one of my favorite
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: sports covers of all time is Mike Dicka and Ricky
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Williams when they drafted him, and Ricky Williams in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: wedding dress and Mike Ducket's in the Tuxedo Man Classic.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Now, I was kind of researching this a little bit
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: more today, and they actually offered the Bengals the trade. First,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the Bengals turned it down, and they had the number
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: three pick in that draft, so the Bengals would have
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: received all the ninety nine picks, the two thousand first
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: round pick, and the two thousand and one first round pick.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Turned it down.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I can't believe Mike Brown turned that down. And they
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: selected Achille Smith quarterback at Oregon, right, Yes, yeah, that
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: didn't go well. No, but they were thinking that he
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: was going to be the franchise guy. And then the
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Colts had traded Marshall Falk. They could have drafted Rickie Williams,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: but they traded they picked Edwin James. Yeah, that was
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit better pick.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: He doesn't show you though then that the back has
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: changed now a little bit. I mean, you know that
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: you're said to maybe draft a couple guys in the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: first round. The cat out of Notre Dame, everyone's you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: infatuated with but Jeremiah Love Love, but no one's giving
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: up you know, three for.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Four first that for him? Yeah, No, I mean I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: don't think that that a draft trade. Draft they trade
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: like that for running back will never happen, probably not
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: come never barely do that for a quarterback, right, I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: mean no, I mean for quarterback. Absolutely not an entire
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: draft you would give up on hindsight. I mean you would.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, you just don't know. Is
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: it going to be Patrick Mahomes or is it going
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: to be Achille Smith that you're trading for? You know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I mean that's always the gamble that you take. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I mean the quarterback position. Would an entire draft be
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: traded for a guy? Absolutely if you feel like he's
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the guy, I mean, you do it. You know, I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: will tell you this. You could trade an entire draft
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: and a second year's draft for a court if like
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: if Patrick Mahomes with the Tancity Chiefs then went out
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, look, give us your best offer. We're
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: going to trade Patrick Mahome Magic offered for him.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you don't know that at the time.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many years draft classes would
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: you offer? If you're a GM, would you give him two?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: In hindsight if you know what he has done in
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying like, like two years ago. If somebody went
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs and said, look, tell me
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: what you want. We want Patrick, We'll give you whatever
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: you want. And you're the GM of Kansas City, Okay,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: what would you require? Or if you're the other team,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: what would.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: You do if he's even touched up?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, because I think once you find
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: your quarterback, that's yeah, yeah, you're so far ahead of
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: everybody else.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, so what would what would the
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: value be it for Patrick mar You know, if you
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: go back to like the first year that he won
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, I mean three draft classes, right, Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I mean that's like the starting point.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's crazy.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: That's why teams are willing to trade a lot of
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: assets to get what they believe is going to be
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the next Patrick Mahomes. But running back, that ship is
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: sale and will never sail again.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: We heard from Liam Cohen there about the initial message
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: this coming week to the team coming back. I've seen
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: a few guys in the building this week kind of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: trickling in here a little bit early, and you know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the voluntary part of it begins next week. What do
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you get out of the first couple of week strength
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and conditioning program.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I mean for me, it was always you know, it's
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: almost like the first day of school again, right, like
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: you're seeing all your friends and everything. You're kind of
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: chopping it up, how is break, how is vacation? But
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: it really it's the infancy of building that camaraderie and
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: kind of picking up where you left off last year, right,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of guys coming back this
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: year there's probably a little sour tastes in their mouth
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: from how that Bills game went, right, because that was
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the game they probably should have won and everything. So
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it's one of those things where you don't have to
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: be too emotional. You're right, you kind of passed the
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Bills game. But at the same time, it's probably a
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: little extra motivation to maybe get a couple more reps
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: in the bench press or the squad rack whatever when
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you're working out.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's the reunion initially, and then also,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: like I think from a staff standpoint and also from
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a pier standpoint, you won't see where everybody's at. You know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you want to see if JP, if you've been training
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: since the end of the season until now where you're at,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: you know your conditioning wives, and that's that's a big
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: part of the evaluation process from the staff, you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: because before you got them earlier. And all these guys nowadays,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: though they train with trainers in different parts, a lot
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: of them have their own trainers here in town, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of them have trainers back in their hometowns
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: or back where they were playing college football. At you
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: were pointing me like you were accusing me of not
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: being up to standard.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: No, no, I think yeah, it was. You're looking great.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah, Jp, I haven't seen a little bit.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: And that's been a while, you know, I've been busy training.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I had to fight myself lasted as long as Nick
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: foles career here in Jacksonville did.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: But it is what it is. But you're looking good, man,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: You look great. Thanks.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your jaws don't seem to get fatigued.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And we are now now fifty Is this a playoff?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Is it's a playoff? Beard? Going here? What is this?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: As it started last September? And I mean I've trimmed
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it now, I'm keeping.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It, okay, keeping it. I'm trying to be like you up.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I like it and be like you guys, which is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: tamper main.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I see you. I like it. It's it's cold experience.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: You got a little bit of that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Jim Hacksaw Dugan looked too. That's a kind of that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Hackshaw Dougan be right, and yeah, a little wrestling name
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: from the past.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a big two by four US.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: So we got two weeks of off season workouts strength
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and conditioning. Then but three weeks of Phase two where
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: there's no helmets, coaches are allowed, they have meetings, they're
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: limited the time of day they can be in the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: building and all those things, and then OTAs after that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: This year there's actually I think six OTAs and then
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the mandatory mini camp, and then three more ot as
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: after the mandatory mini camp, and then it's, uh, you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it's a good setup. We'll see about what happens after
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the mandatory mini camp, you know, because you know sometimes
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: you see those last three OTA days kind of evaporate.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Going to play some paintball to go to the movies
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: one and then the other two. Yeah, yeah, you guys, paintball.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: That one year with Mike Wack, we we.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Absolutely did paintball. I remember that shot. Joe calling in
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the face one of the greatest days of my life.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I did not. Yeah so, actually because I was a
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: big paintballer growing up.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah so I ended up taking like ten people out
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: and I got Joe calling as well.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Coughlin never did stuff like you.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Guys are having team bonding. No, yeah, you guys going
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to the casinos and doing your own bonding.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I guess we did our own there, you go. We
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: were bonded against what the tyranny of all that's actually truth.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And and I told him that, and UH said that,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: you know, you were so hard on us, You know
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that we we bonded together because of them, And I
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: think that you know, look, he's no dummy. Tom Cofflin
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: is one of the smartest people I've ever known. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: think that was all part of his mad scientist approach,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you know, and that if if he could be hard
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: on guys, then we would bond together.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And then it happened.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: And I mean, and I'll be honest, like, obviously, you
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: guys you're two days all that different than than our
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: two days, right, and now you don't even have two
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: days anymore.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: But but I will say, like the ones that we
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: had with.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: The Oklahoma Jills and everything like, yeah, it sucked and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: it was hot, and especially with my first year practicing
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: at you know, nine night, like Jack had us at
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: night and that was horrible, but it was always the
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: comfort of yeah, this sucks something going through it, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: the guy next to me is going through it as well,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: and it's almost like misery loves company. I'm sure you
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: guys had that more than anybody, because once again that's
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Steven's point. Heat that summer man and it was not playing.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And I remember talking to Tom a couple of years
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: ago and he said, you know, he goes, you know
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: what he goes. That's the toughest team that I've ever coached.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, looking back on it, I mean we
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: we had a lot of callouses on our hands and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: we were one tough group. You know, going back to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: the day, we weren't we weren't very talented, but you
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: go back and you look at those games in nineteen
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: ninety five and we were in just about every game
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: with little to no talent across certain position groups.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I mean it was a ragtag bunch, but an amazing
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: year coming up. Of course, like we said, Monday clubs
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: with returning head coaches beginning the offseason workout programs. The
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: draft begins a week from tonight, April twenty third. The
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Jaguars portion begins Friday, April twenty fourth, because they have
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a second round pick and three third round picks.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Austin, you canna be back with us off and on
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: this offseason. I guess so, man, just put up the
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: bad signal. I'll show up whenever I've always around. Man,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: you guess so, I'm just going to get a parking
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: past to go. You know, I have walk across the street.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: But we're all good.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Good luck with that, I know.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: By the way heell me really quickly, I think, Okay,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: it's my second year of doing this.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Got my jag war shirt.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Now I gonna need you to park across the streets
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: their Okay, you got it. But it is the cat signal,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the cat cat cat signal. Okay, catig We'll send the gotcha.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I got you. I'm sorry about that. My bad, My bad.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's been a while.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It's been a little bit. Good to see you again, though.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Great to see you. See you guys around Austin Lane
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: with US logs. We'll talk to you again. You got
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: it next week, next Thursday, which is the day the
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: first round, which I can't wait. I'm actually gonna be
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: able to sit back, bowl of popcorn and watch the
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: first Round and not have a radio show. But we're
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: looking forward to our radio show on Friday Night when
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars have four picks.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Love that, Jeff Logman. I'm j P.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Shadwick, Austin Lane, our thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: our entire crew, and thanks to you for watching and listening.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.