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The Pain and Agony of Being a Vikings Fan | TSH Ep. 92 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: the School Hot I'm Evan and I'm Austin. There's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and tonight. The beer we had was a great
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  Speaker 2: citrusy beer from Big Grow Brewery, which I think we
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  Speaker 2: both liked quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very delicious. We took some time though, to look
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  Speaker 1: back on some of the more heartbreaking moments in Viking's history.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was That was kind of weirdly fun.
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  Speaker 2: Another fun thing we did is that we played the
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  Speaker 2: hey remember this Viking game, which you know, guys always
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  Speaker 2: end up playing when we're drinking beers and hanging out,
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  Speaker 2: So that brought back some really good memories too.
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  Speaker 1: That was definitely more fun than all the sad seasons
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  Speaker 1: that weren't so good. But what wasn't sad was this beer.
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  Speaker 1: It was very good And if you want to know
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  Speaker 1: what beer it is, make sure you check out the
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  Speaker 1: episode yep, and grab your favorite beverage and join us
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you still haven't booked or gone. I guarantee it.
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  Speaker 2: You can look into the future and predict that. I
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  Speaker 1: I know for sure. Well, we'll have to see if
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  Speaker 1: that's true or not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing I know for sure is that we both
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  Speaker 2: very much enjoy beer.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we do.
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  Speaker 2: And Big Grove a while back they gave us quite
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  Speaker 2: a few, what a handful of six packs of beers,
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  Speaker 2: and so we've been sifting through those as episodes go on.
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  Speaker 2: And this one I have never had before. Have you
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  Speaker 2: ever had this one before?
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  Speaker 1: I've had the Citrus Surfer brand, but I haven't had
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  Speaker 1: this particular one, which is Citrus Surfer a line, So
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  Speaker 1: I have not had it. So there's a couple, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's obviously just regular Citrus Surfer, which I
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  Speaker 1: think we had when we live streamed a game over
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  Speaker 1: last season. I think you might remember better than I
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  Speaker 1: I think we did. We've definitely had regular old Citrus
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  Speaker 1: Surfer at least once show in some capacity.
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  Speaker 2: And then this is the line one. Do you know
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  Speaker 2: if there's there can only be a couple.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's. Yeah, I think there's a few other variations.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't remember what it is off the top
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  Speaker 1: of my head. We could google it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well, either way, I'm super excited to try
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  Speaker 2: this one again. Thank you Big Grove for providing some
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  Speaker 2: of the beer for us in our recent episodes, and
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I think this is our final
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  Speaker 2: one of what they've provided, which is kind of bittersweet,
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  Speaker 2: but this one, Yeah, this seems like definitely the classic,
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  Speaker 2: Like you could drink this all day out on the boat,
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  Speaker 2: out on the lake, just hanging out. And I say
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  Speaker 2: that because it's four point eight percent alcohol by volume,
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  Speaker 2: which always drink responsibly, but four eight is relatively low,
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  Speaker 2: which can be advantageous if you're looking to just hang
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  Speaker 2: out and be outside or just enjoy the day and
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  Speaker 2: throw a handful back without really having to worry too
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  Speaker 2: much about getting two out there or getting too much
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  Speaker 2: of a headache the next day. Four eight is pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited to try this One's crack these open. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: while we're doing that, I did look it up. So
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  Speaker 2: there is the original Citrus Surfer, then there's this one
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  Speaker 2: Citrus Surfer Lime, and then they put out a multi
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  Speaker 2: pack and the other two flavors were exclusive to the
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  Speaker 2: multi pack, so you had to buy the multi pack
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  Speaker 2: in stores or I'm assuming you could get them on
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  Speaker 2: draft at the brewery.
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  Speaker 1: But they had a Mango Citrus Surfer mango and Citrus
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  Speaker 1: Surfer lemon berry.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, so okay, and that sounds good, all right, man.
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoy citrusy. Obviously, I'm an IPA guy, and
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  Speaker 2: that's very citrusy. You know, forward a lot of times,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm really very much looking forward to this. This
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  Speaker 2: one kind of hazy, it's got it's got a nice
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  Speaker 2: small amount of haze to it. It's definitely an ip A.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to really see through it,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not like dark dark, good decent head retention,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not gonna be like a sour masquerading as
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  Speaker 2: an I p A.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It looks really good and I'm ready to go for it.
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  Speaker 1: School skull. Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's really nice. That's it's a very
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  Speaker 2: very refreshing light lime flavor. You get that little bit
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  Speaker 2: of happiness, but it's got a little tartness too the lime,
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  Speaker 2: but not so overpowering. Yeah, it's none of the flavors
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  Speaker 2: are crazy heavy overpowering. Like I feel like refreshing is
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  Speaker 2: a really good word for this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would definitely have a few of these hot
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  Speaker 1: summer day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh for sure. If you're if you like lime, this
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  Speaker 2: this is definitely a solid beer for you. It kind
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  Speaker 2: of reminds me of like a way better version of
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  Speaker 2: some of those like or like bud Light Lime, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like some of those like yeah, summer type, you know,
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  Speaker 2: seasonal loggers that they put out there, some of the
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  Speaker 2: brewers put out there. Obviously, this is way better. I
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  Speaker 2: would rather have this than a bud Light Lime. And
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  Speaker 2: some people are probably gasping clutching their pearls at that,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, this is delicious.
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  Speaker 1: This is great. I actually had. We went to a
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  Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant for a dinner tonight and I usually get
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  Speaker 1: a corona with lime, and those are good and I like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, just a corona with lime, hard and
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  Speaker 1: beat pretty soccos or a grido or whatever you're having
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  Speaker 1: for Mexican food. It's just a staple for me. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. But I would have one of these if
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  Speaker 1: it were available. Yeah, with my Mexican food, this is good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, for someone who has mentioned a few times
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  Speaker 2: on the school Hop how much you enjoy Mexican food, and.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna make for how much I don't like spicy food,
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  Speaker 1: aren't you? No, not at all. I was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna kind of make fun of you,
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  Speaker 2: but I was going to not go mostly to haul
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  Speaker 2: you out for not, you know, participating with show sponsor
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  Speaker 2: Big Top Ventures and going to a Mexican all inclusive.
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  Speaker 2: You enjoy it, man, you'd really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: I know I would and I will.
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  Speaker 2: But until you do, I guess this is going to
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  Speaker 2: have to do. This will have to bring you as
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  Speaker 2: close to Mexico as you can get. And it's crazy
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  Speaker 2: because it doesn't even claim to.
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  Speaker 1: Be like a Mexican style beer. It's an i p a.
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  Speaker 1: It's an Iowa beer. That's all we drink on the.
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  Speaker 2: School, have we We've never we've never broken that rule,
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  Speaker 2: have we.
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  Speaker 1: We We've always had Iowa beer on an episode. We
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  Speaker 1: had that one beer from Minnesota, I think because it
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  Speaker 1: was like just one before I die. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think the sea. But we had that first, and then
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  Speaker 1: we had an Iowa beer after that. We've also had
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  Speaker 1: some what is this I forget their name. We should know.
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  Speaker 1: They don't think it's on there. It's uh, it's in Stillwater, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: I know that they're grape ape what is that called?
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  Speaker 2: Bridget Bridge Brewing. We did have their grapeape again. That
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  Speaker 2: one wasn't the episode beer. It was a grape pape
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  Speaker 2: isn't really a beer. It was like a malt beverage. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was more like alcoholic grape soda. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't bad, but it was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, we've I don't think we've ever actually truly
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  Speaker 2: broken the rule of Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: We've not drawne a single episode without having an Iowa
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  Speaker 1: beer of some sort on the episode. Yeah, we've and
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  Speaker 1: we've only doubled up a couple of times, full of times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe once or twice. Yeah, but yeah. So all that
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  Speaker 1: to say, Big Groves, Switch R Surfer Lime pretty solid
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  Speaker 1: and if you like Lime, go for it. It's delicious.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Big Grove Again. Well, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: today about kind of whatever comes to mind. But we
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  Speaker 1: had this idea, I don't know a while ago. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we had it on an outline for an episode and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have time to get to it. But I
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  Speaker 1: remember typing these things out and I might just read
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  Speaker 1: them all yeah, and explain the context, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: just go and we'll see where the wind takes us.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the week after the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four to twenty five season ended. The Vikings lost in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs to the Rams, ending their twenty four to
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  Speaker 1: twenty five season, and we of course had an episode
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  Speaker 1: right after that game and talked about all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I penned these words at the end of our outline,
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  Speaker 1: mostly just out of the sheer heartbreak of being a
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  Speaker 1: Vikings fan for life. So I titled the segment the
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  Speaker 1: Pain and Agony of being a Vikings Fan. And I
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  Speaker 1: had some sub points here, and I thought at that
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  Speaker 1: point we could do this, and we decided to scrap it,
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  Speaker 1: and now here we are doing it. Here it is
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  Speaker 1: down the road. But we could look back at all
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  Speaker 1: of the great seasons that have gone to waste, all
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  Speaker 1: of the fruitless playoff seasons, and fruitless is the only
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  Speaker 1: word to describe it, because the Vikings have never actually
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  Speaker 1: won the big game and they haven't even been to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in our lifetime. So every playoff appearance
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  Speaker 1: we've experienced has been fruitless. It's been short ended, like
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  Speaker 1: it was this last year. And then all of the
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  Speaker 1: great players to pass through. There have been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of phenomenal football players to wear that uniform, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them, the really really good ones, have gone
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  Speaker 1: on to be successful elsewhere in addition to being really
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  Speaker 1: great in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: But some of them, because they spent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: their careers with the Vikings, even as great as they were,
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  Speaker 2: never got to the promised lad never won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is just a I don't know, It's
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  Speaker 2: like Paul Allen would say, We're going to sit on
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  Speaker 2: the emotional davenport of love and kind of have a
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  Speaker 2: therapy session and just talk back all of the heartbreaking
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  Speaker 2: moments that have been bestowed upon us by this team
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  Speaker 2: that loves to just punish us.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, where should we start? Oh? Man?
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I think we should go with some
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest disappointing seasons. And maybe that's not the
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  Speaker 2: right word to say it, the biggest seasons that broke
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  Speaker 2: our hearts the most.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a better way to say it.
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  Speaker 2: So, when you think of biggest heartbreak as a Vikings fan,
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  Speaker 2: what season arc is the first one that you, personally,
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  Speaker 2: evan think.
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  Speaker 1: Of nineteen ninety eight. There can't be a different answer
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  Speaker 1: than that. I mean, you're talking a fifteen to one
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  Speaker 1: football team, a team that lost one game all of
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. They were dominant. I'm looking at the
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  Speaker 1: stats on Pro Football Reference right now. The Vikings had
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  Speaker 1: the highest point differential of any team in franchise history,
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  Speaker 1: with a positive two hundred and sixty twenty differential. They
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  Speaker 1: were they were electric on offense, and they were lights
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  Speaker 1: out on defense. Like it was. It was the perfect team.
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  Speaker 1: It was arguably the best team the Vikings have ever fielded,
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  Speaker 1: and they proved as much with their fifteen to one
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  Speaker 1: record and the heartbreak of that missed field goal and
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  Speaker 1: then the loss and overtime to the Falcons, and that
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  Speaker 1: NFC Championship game was crushing. Yeah, and that was like
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of our journey as Vikings fans. So we
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  Speaker 1: were So here's how crushing it is.
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  Speaker 2: You you can speak to your own personal experience with
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  Speaker 2: that season, with that you know, loss to the Falcons
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  Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game, because you probably watched some
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  Speaker 2: or all of that season as a then Minnesota kid
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  Speaker 2: born and raised in Minnesota, still living there at the time,
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  Speaker 2: and your family was indoctrinating you into this Purple fandom.
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  Speaker 2: My personal experience this should tell you how how how
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  Speaker 2: heartbreaking that nineteen ninety eight season is. That was three
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  Speaker 2: to four years before I became a Vikings fan. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't really wake up as a fan of sports at
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  Speaker 2: all until like two thousand and one, two thousand and two.
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  Speaker 2: I still to this day look at that season, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe this is a little preposterous because I didn't watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really realize it was going on. But as
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  Speaker 2: of now, when I think about that season, it breaks
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  Speaker 2: my heart. I think about the replays of some of
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  Speaker 2: the games that I've watched, you know, watch back on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube and stuff and just knowing, oh, they might be
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  Speaker 2: dominating this game.
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  Speaker 1: But just a few months later, well, I mean that
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  Speaker 1: was Randy Moss's rookie year. Yeah, Randall Cunningham was I
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  Speaker 1: think at the top of his game, Chris Carter was
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  Speaker 1: still playing at an elite level. Yeah, and then you
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  Speaker 1: had this defensive front that was just a nightmare for
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  Speaker 1: opposing offenses. It was a lights out team the Randy
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  Speaker 1: Moss Thanksgiving Game. Yeah, what is it?
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  Speaker 2: Three sixty three or three one sixty three and three?
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  Speaker 1: Three catches, one hundred and sixty three yards and three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: It was absolutely insane and that was just that was
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  Speaker 1: what the Vikings did to teams everywhere. It was nuts.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, that has to be at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the list for me. I think a close second. Heartbreaking seasons.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you'll agree with me on this because
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  Speaker 1: we were together and we watched this the the last
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  Speaker 1: game of this season together. Yep, it was the nine season.
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  Speaker 1: It was the bounty Gate game against the Saints NFC
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  Speaker 1: championship game. Brett Favre comes to the Vikings after this
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  Speaker 1: tumultuous exit from Green Bay, has a few awkward years
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  Speaker 1: in New York, I think one, Yeah, maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: just one, but he was accused of, you know, being
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  Speaker 1: kind of an idiot with a female staff member or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, dive into that. But he comes to
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota and I remember, like the first couple of games
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  Speaker 1: that season were just kind of like, Okay, this might work.
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  Speaker 1: And then it was that San Francisco games, specifically the
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  Speaker 1: one pass Hail Mary at the end of the game
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  Speaker 1: to Greg Lewis. It was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: I still can't think about that far to Lewis play
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  Speaker 2: without smiling. It's it's got broad Lost and it's Paul Allen.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not if you're a Viking Span and you
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  Speaker 2: don't like Paul Allen, then you're not a Vikings fan.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, that that one game really turned everybody, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody fell in love with it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when I think.
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  Speaker 2: The only people that weren't okay with farv after that game,
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  Speaker 2: they were just haters and they hate being Viking Spans anyways.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 2: Far through across his body instead of running five yards
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  Speaker 2: to get a first down and attempt a field goal
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  Speaker 2: to go to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: But let's be realistic here, I mean, he had to
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  Speaker 1: have been slightly outside of his mind at that point.
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  Speaker 1: He had been bruised and battered and probably didn't know
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  Speaker 1: which direction was up at that point in the game
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  Speaker 1: because of the beating he took because players on the
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  Speaker 1: other team were being paid a bounty for his head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just him, but like every other player,
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  Speaker 2: every Viking on the field. And then you have you
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  Speaker 2: have things like I know on kfan Meetzos likes to
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  Speaker 2: raz ben Lieber about it all the time, but there
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  Speaker 2: was a defensive pass interference or holding or something that
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  Speaker 2: ben Lieber had late in the game that gave the
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  Speaker 2: Saints a big advantage. There was I think Adrian Peterson
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  Speaker 2: fumbled it a few times. It was just that game.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many mishaps and to still they go
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  Speaker 2: into overtime to still have a chance. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: amazing in and of itself. And I remember thinking at
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  Speaker 2: the time, like Brett Farv like after they lost, and
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  Speaker 2: I think somebody tweeted out pictures of his ankle and
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  Speaker 2: how they were like it looked like it was just
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  Speaker 2: a broken mess and that he wasn't ever gonna walk again.
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  Speaker 2: I remember thinking like, well, at least, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: no way they could have beat the Colts. But everything
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  Speaker 2: I hear from like players and coaches and everybody when
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  Speaker 2: they talk about it, like even with Brett being beat
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  Speaker 2: up after that game, like if they had found a
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  Speaker 2: way to win, they still would have been way favored
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  Speaker 2: over the Colts. Which I don't know that's hearsay at
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  Speaker 2: this point, but yeah, And to talk about Paul Allen,
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  Speaker 2: I just hear those I'll never not hear him say.
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  Speaker 1: This is not Detroit, man, this is the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way it would have been in the ninety
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  Speaker 1: eight season though too. Like I forget who the Falcons
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  Speaker 1: ended up playing in the Super Bowl that.
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  Speaker 2: Year, the Broncos. It was always second straight Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: to finish office.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the Vikings would have been heavily favored
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  Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl too had they made it there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're talking at the time that ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight Vikings team was the greatest show on turf before
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  Speaker 2: the greatest show on turf.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were the predecessors to the Rams of Kurt
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  Speaker 1: Warner day.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were statistically the greatest like football definitely
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the greatest offense in NFL history. So yeah, they absolutely
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: if not for a missed kick, they would have gone
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: on to and probably won the Super Bowl in ninety eight. Now, again,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that's all hears saying. We're not saying, oh I should
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: have been Super Bowl chance like it happened the way
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: it happened. But man, I will say though, and I've
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: said it on this show before, as big of a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: fan of this team as I am now, I was
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: ten times bigger of a fan before the kickoff of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: that Saints game, that NFC championship game in two thousand
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and nine, And that game legitimately stole my childhood joy
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of being a football fan. Now, I still love the team,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I still love football. I watch the UFL right now,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Like that's how much of a football fan I am.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: But that definitely stole some of the joy from me.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I watched it. It was like a ghost leaving your body. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And we were watching it in the basement of our
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: college norm.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You were probably making fun of me at some point,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: like it's just a game.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Man. I was just sitting there looking at your now
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: wife and she's like, is he gonna be okay? And
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it might take a few days, but he'll
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: be all right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Decades it might take a few decades. I'm still not
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: fully over that game, but it did. It was the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: first time I was ever like, I can't feel like
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: this about a football team who's never heard my name
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and will never care that I exist. Like I can't
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: put that much of myself into just a group of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: guys playing a child's game. And yeah, I've bounced back
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but I will never be as big
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: of a fan of anything as I was before that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: game started.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I might remind you that you do have a podcast where,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: so can we talk about the Vikings.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I bounced back a little bit, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and my my wife will attest there were many years
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that you just don't talk to.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Austin if the Vikings lost that day, just let him.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Let him be.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And after that game, and you know a few more
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: years after that. I mean, I'm not happy if the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Vikings lose, but I might be like super pissed off
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: for like five to ten minutes, and then you know what,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: like I'm an adult, Like my life will go on.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I have a family, you know, Like I usually get
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: over it pretty quick. And yeah, except maybe the loss
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to the Rams in the twenty four to twenty five season.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That one kind of sucked too, but not nearly as
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: much as O nine.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think something that is, it's not nearly comparable to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the ninety eight season or the nine season. But in
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: recent years, the Vikings in the last two of the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: two of the last three seasons, O'Connell's first season and
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: then this last season, the Vikings have looked really, really good.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't know really what to attribute it to.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Is it just sheer luck? Was it actual like? Was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it the coaching, was it the roster that they had?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: What was it? But I mean twenty twenty two, thirteen
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and four win the division and then you lose in
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the wild card round. And then this past season twenty
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: four season, fourteen and three with a ten million dollars
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback who was a backup everywhere else just came out
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and lit it up, and they could not figure out
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: how to finish that last stretch of games, losing the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: last three games, right or two games?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the Vikings they lost the last two regular
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: season games in twenty four and then the playoff game,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: so the last three games they played last three game total. Yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: this team has a unique way of breaking your heart sometimes.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Although I will say it's because of you know, a
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: thirteen win season and a fourteen win season two out
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of Kevin O'Connell's first three seasons. It's because of those
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that I have some high hopes for the team in
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the future. Everything seems to have been good moves and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: upgrades and should be good on paper. We'll see how
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: they go here in the future. Another season that I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: look back on and it breaks my heart and it
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: stole a little bit more of that joy of the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: team from me was twenty seventeen, specifically after in the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: NFC Championship game, after the Vikings, you know, Minneapolis miracle
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to win the division game against the Saints of all teams,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: then to go into Philly and on the first drive
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: march down the field and score a touchdown. I probably
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: would have told you in that moment they're gonna do it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: They're gonna win the Super Bowl. The Eagles are on
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: their you know, second string quarterback. Yeah it's in Philly,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: but this team is amazing. They're the team of destiny.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Did you not just see the Minneapolis Miracles seven days ago?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And ever since that game? Do you know what happens
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to me when the Vikings march down the field and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: score a touchdown to start the game. I like, well,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's the only touchdown they're gonna score to day. That's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: my thought immediately, that's what this team has done to us.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have said recently on the show, I as
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: much as we, you know, bicker and complain about how
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: much this team loves to beat us down and hate
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: on us. And nobody's had it worse than Vikings fans.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I really think there's some other teams in the NFL
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: that have that claim above Vikings fans like Jets fans,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Like I said, not terribly long ago, they've they've been
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on a playoff drought since the two thousand and nine.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Seasons, since we were in high school.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel for Jets fans sometimes Browns fans today, Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Browns fans, although I don't feel bad for that team
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: because they have decided to go with Deshaun Watson. They're
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: finally getting over that. But if you choose to go
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: for that, like you deserve to just be awful forever.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Like I hope they never do anything good ever again.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and that's not to say, yeah, the Vikings
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: are actually good, Like they do love to break our hearts?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts of that twenty seventeen season.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, the seventeen season was fun to watch. Obviously, the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis Miracle is the cherry on top of that season.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's the most reactive I've ever been in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a game, Like I lost my mind. Like my oldest
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: daughter was I don't know, she's probably like one and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a half or at that point, she was very young,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and I think she had gone to bed and I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: just didn't care that she was sleeping upstairs. I screamed
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: at the top of my lungs. I ran like fifteen
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: laps around my basement and then like I was watching
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: TV and I was kind of like just trying to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: like gather myself, and I looked at my wife and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I said, I need to go for a walk. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I went outside and I literally walked a whole block,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like I think it was like a good half mile
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: around my neighborhood. I was like, I just need to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: go outside and breathe for a minute, like I just
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: need to kind of come down from this chaotic moment.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So all of that to say, the twenty seventeen season
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: was great, But yeah, like you said to go to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Philly to experience what they did there. It just just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: another one on the pile of disappointing season. It's like, ah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: man had we we were thirteen and three and we
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: won this playoff game in miraculous fashion. It was awesome.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: My parents were actually at that game. Uh oh yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I remember that, So that's a fun little family memory
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: for us too. But it's all for not because it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They didn't go on to win the next one,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and that's what matters. You got to win the next one. Yep.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So I do think it kind of sucks that, as
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: thirty something year old Vikings fans, our pinnacle of Vikings
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: fan hood, that the peak of our fan hood is
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: a win in the divisional round of the playoffs and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a miracle win in the divisional round of the playoffs.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Like I'm super glad that we have it and that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: it was that we witnessed it, and I wish we were,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you know, with your parents there in Minnesota, because I
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: would just be even that much better. But yes, someday
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl win will overtake that, hopefully, But it's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: kind of crazy that a division will play is our
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: peak is Vikings fans that twenty seventeen season. If you
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: remember the first game, Sam Bradford came out and looked
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like the next coming of Tom Brady at his peak.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: That game against the Saints to start off the season,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Bradford had He was twenty seven to thirty two for
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: three hundred and forty six yards and three touchdowns. And
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: on top of that, Dvin Cook had one hundred and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: twenty seven yards rushing, no touchdowns. Adam Thielen had a
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: big game nine catches for one hundred and fifty seven yards.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs himself had two touchdowns and ninety three yards
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: catching or receiving. But Sam Bradford in that game looked
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: like he was the MVP. Like he said, he looked
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like he was the greatest quarterback to ever set foot
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: on grass. And then and you know, he had some
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: knie horness the next day and he didn't play the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: rest of the year because he did something to his
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: knee there. And that's why when JJ McCarthy all of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: a sudden had knee soreness after a preseason game where
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he looked pretty decent, my first side was, well, great,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: here's Sam Bradford all over again. Hopefully JJ will come
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: back like Sam Bradford didn't. But to go from having
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: an amazing game, We're gonna win the super Bowl after
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Week one, and then a few days later, oh, who's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: our backup? Course, they're gonna win two games with case Keenum.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And then they went on to win twelve more with Keenum.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Like that season was such a free role and then
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the miracle happened. It was the team of Destiny and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: then the Eagles game, and.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That was probably the peak of Zimmer's coaching career. Oh absolutely,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think he coached a better team. Maybe what
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: we could do because I'm seeing some names just in
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the top players list here on Pro Football Reference. They
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: would just play that age old game where a bunch
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of dudes just sit around just say r random names.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'll start ready, Yeah, Everson Griffin. Oh man, Everson Griffin.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Talk about a guy who was a total wild card
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: on the field. Most of the time, he was just
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: ripping people's heads off. He was amazing to watch, so
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: much fun. Every single game. He was good for one
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: offside's penalty he got a little too, Yeah, at least one,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it seemed like.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And then it would happen and you go to Twitter
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and everybody be like, oh, yeah, that's just one for
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the game game. It was a bound to happen sometime,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like it's crazy how often that happened. But just a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: really fun Viking to watch, and then you know, at
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the end of his Vikings career, kind of a mental
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: breaking situation issues.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I think I did see somebody tweet out in Vikings
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Twitter that they had like actually run into Everson Griffin
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: out in public and really said high and like, hey,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I was I'm a Vikings fan.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was a huge fan.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: And it seems like, you know, as of now, he's
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: he's doing okay, seems like he's he's got some good
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: support system around him and life's going pretty decent for him.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that really scary end to his football career.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But he was a fun Viking to watch for a while.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Who's your random Viking player that you're gonna throw out there?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, pick one, It doesn't matter. We
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: can keep going. We can riff on this for an
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: hour if we want. Okay, how about your thoughts on
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: oh man, Greg Jennings. Greg Jennings, former packer. Yeah, doesn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: he have a career in broadcasting now, like I think
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he's dabbled.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I don't know enough about
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: it to say yes or no, but.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know much. No, he was fun to watch.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: What seasons was he in Minnesota? Again? He was there,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: looks like thirteen and fourteen. Yeah, maybe not very long.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I remember that the Vikings they tried to sign Mike
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Wallace and then they had some competition with the Dolphins
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: for Mike Wallace, so then they turned and went with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: former packer Greg Jennings. We were actually hanging out the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: night Greg Jennings got announced as a Viking. Oh, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Us and our wives we were catching up on how
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I met your mother at your house in Cedar Falls.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah, yeah, I don't know why I remember that,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that was pretty cool. It must have been.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Who had to have been our first house? This was
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: pre then. That was the apartment, No, the house, the oh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the college house.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I was married. I don't think you were married. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: that's how I was.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: All right, so the college house. But yeah, before I see, Yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: well it had to have been because we got married
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. So yeah, Greg Jennings, Si Jennings. He
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: was fun.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I don't remember too many like crazy plays watching him,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but he I mean he led the team in receiving
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: for the two years he was there. He was a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: good a good receiver. I think he was the unfortunate
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: product of the coaching change because he straddled the seasons
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: where Fraser left and then Zimmer came in, and just
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: naturally you're not going.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: To be on very good teams. Typically when a coach
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: gets fired, that's usually because they had a bad season.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: And then typically a coach doesn't just come in and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: find success right away, and Zimmer did not. His first
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: season they went seven and nine.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So and you say he led the team in receiving,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: at twenty thirteen he had eight hundred and four yards
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and twenty fourteen he had seven hundred and forty two yards.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: So that team was not lighting up the league in
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: thirteen and four. I think in twenty thirteen, didn't they
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: go three and thirteen like they were five and ten?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, okay, But Matt Castle was the quarterback of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that team. And Matt Castle came in because Christian Ponder
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: turned out to be not the answer like everybody thought
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: he would me for sure.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Matt Castle was on I don't know if it was
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Pardon My Take or one of the popular football podcasts,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and they asked him like, what do you have any
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: regrets in your career? And I guess he had the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: chance at the end of his Vikings career to stay
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: with the Vikings or okay, the trade. I think he
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: got traded to Buffalo. And he said he regretted going
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: forward with the trade to Buffalo because he did it
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: at the time because he still wanted an opportunity to start.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: But if he had stayed, he would have been Teddy
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: ridgewater backup. And he says in that podcast not terribly
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: long ago, he said, yeah, I kind of wish I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: would have stayed been the backup in Minnesota.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Well, because then Teddy's knee explode and then he might
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: have been the starter.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but I think for Greg Jennings, the other
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: thing is you were playing with Matt Castle in your
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: first season and then you were playing with rookie Teddy
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater your second year in Minnesota, and so there's just
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of adjusting to do when you're a veteran receiver.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And you are very good at your craft. I think
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he was known as a pretty good route runner if
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I remember right, Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, And I think
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you had to be if you were catching balls from
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And I think didn't he play with Brett
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Farv too, wasn't he? I believe he did. He caught.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: It was he caught one of Farvard Rodgers's like milestone
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: touchdown passes, like two hundred and fiftieth or something like that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: It was at the time.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I remember watching and like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I think all of that to say, like, when
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you're playing with elite level quarterbacks like Brett Farv and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rogers, you just get used to the ball being
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in certain places and you get used to running routes
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the way you do. And when you're working with we'll
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: say Teddy Bridgewater for example, who's a rookie and just
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, you know, that's just not
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: gonna happen the way that it did when he was
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in Green Bay. And nothing against Matt Castle or Teddy Bridgewater.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I think there were great, great players. It's unfortunate what
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: happened to Teddy Bridgewater. But AnyWho. Yeah, Greg Jennings, great guy. Yeah,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and I wish he could have been a Viking for
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: his whole career. That would have been more fun.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he might argue, I think he probably enjoys his
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Green Bay years.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I think anybody that plays in Green Bay enjoys it. Yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know that, I think anybody.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that's funny that you say that, because I'm pretty
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: sure it was him that when he was on the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Vikings he got. He was controversially quoted as saying something
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to the tune of they kind of brainwash you in
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: green Bay.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to like it there, and.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: He got I don't remember the exact quote, but he
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: was kind of talking negative about Well.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's like the history of Packers football is.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Because there's the smallest market team in the country, you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: have to do something to keep players there. And they've
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: not only brainwashed the players that have come through there,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but they've brainwashed an entire state and then some Yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: there are people who've never set foot in the state
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of Wisconsin who are Packers face for some reason. That's
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. All right.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Can you think of another player from Viking's history. Let's
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: go back to how about the Williams Walliams. I love
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: that you said both of them.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Well I saw one of their names here, and I'm like, well,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you can't mention one without the other.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Kevin Williams I think was the overall better
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: of the two. Yes, but them together they really were
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a wall. I think the Vikings at one point in
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: their stretch as Vikings, the team went something like one
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: hundred plus games without allowing one hundred yard rusher, which
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the record at the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: time or if it was creeping up to the record,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: but I remember it being very notable that you could
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: not run against the Vikings, mostly because of those he myths,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: those monsters of Hall of Fame level players. I'll say
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: it right in the middle. You couldn't run against it.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: The only issue with that is, for many of those years,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the Vikings didn't have the defensive backfield to back up
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: their rushing defense. So teams very quickly figured out like, Okay,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: we're not running against them, but darn it, we can
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: throw for a thousand yards a game against the Vikings
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: because you know, all their talent is up front and
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: they've got guys like you know Cedric Griffin in the backfield,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: who Cedric Griffin was decent, but I mean he's not
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: gonna be right remembered as the best ever, right, Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: The Williams Wall. I also kind of remember they both
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: got in trouble for the Star Caps issue. It was
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: like an early performance enhancing drug and I don't know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I was kind of young when that that all came out,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: so I don't know the exact details of all of that,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but it took a few years, but eventually both of
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: them ended up serving I think four game suspensions. And yeah, anybody,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: whether you're trying to or not, you could get flagged
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: for some supplements that you're putting in your body. And yeah,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that was a good lesson for probably a lot of
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: people to learn through the Williams Wall. But yeah, really fun,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: really fun players to watch.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: The good thing about them is they had Jared Allen
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: at some point, right Yeah, Like I mean you had
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: three ferocious defensive linemen, yeah, staring you down every play,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the Williams Wall and Jared Allen who played on the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: other side for a while.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It was Ray Edwards, Oh sure, a guy that would
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: eventually go on to have a very short of boxing
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: career or MMA career, and then also for a while
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: it was Brian Robinson. But yeah, Brian Robinson was really
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: good yea, actually yeah, solid Viking, kind of a Greenway
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: level Viking. But Jared Allen that's a whole other name
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: in itself, and that's kind of a heartbreaking name because
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: he had a really fast and explosive start to his
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: career with KSE, led the league in sacks his last
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: year in Kansas City, and then through some personal issues
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that he had to deal with, I think mostly just alcohol,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: he had to get over some demons with that that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: also kind of ran him out of town on k
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: C by the Vikings traded for him, traded like a
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and like a couple threes something, a pretty large trade
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: package to case to get him, and all he did
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: was become one of the best Vikings of all time.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I think he tied or almost broke the sack single
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: season sack record one year twenty eleven or something.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Twenty eleven, he had twenty two sacks and I think
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the record's twenty two and a half.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he was a half a sack away,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: just a monster. He was one that it felt like
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: you couldn't go to a game and look in any
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: direction without seeing a thousand Jared Allen jerseys, maybe partially
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: because of his number, which was pretty awesome. Man. He
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: was so much fun and the team loved putting him
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: out there. He was definitely a fan favorite, a franchise favorite,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and now a Hall of Famer, which is pretty cool.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I say he's kind of bittersweet because of all of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the Vikings throughout Vikings history that probably deserved a Super
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Bowl ring. I'd say he's definitely up there. Him, Randy Moss, shoot,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson, all the greats over the years that definitely
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: deserved a ring before their career, and none of them
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: ever got it. Jared Allen, I think his last game
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: in the NFL was the Super Bowl with the Panthers
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and they lost to I believe the Broncos. So he
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: played in one, but never never won one. So there's
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: two lists, unofficial and official.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Sacks weren't officially a statistic until nineteen eighty two, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference that's a hard thing to say. Pro
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Football Reference has both unofficial going back to nineteen sixty
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and the official list, which started in nineteen eighty two,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: so Jared Allen is tied for a third all time
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: with Mark Gastineau and Justin Houston with twenty two. Tied
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: for first, you have Michael Strahan and t J. Watt. Okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: twenty two and a half. T J.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Watt should oh that's season, single season Okay.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Single season sack numbers, yep. So yeah. Anyways, Chris Dolman,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: former Viking nineteen eighty nine on this list as well,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: tied for sixth with twenty one sacks. Are there any
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: other Vikings on this list? Just out of curiosity? Potentially? Millard?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, Keith Millard. Yeah, he's a like a nineties eighty
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: nine Keith Millard and Chris Dolman, they both had There
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: was one year maybeeen eighty nine. Yeah, yeah, that was
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that was a crazy year for Vikings. And then after
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: that you're probably looking at the like Alan Page and.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and those might not have marginal Those weren't even
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: probably there on the unofficial list, I bet, because they
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: were you know, pre nineteen eighty two. Anyways, Yeah, we
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: could go on a tangent just on that for sure.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So much fun.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: All right, I want your thoughts here, Let's let's go
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it what do you think about Matt Asciata?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Fun name to say, I might be saying that wrong. Well, no,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I think you're saying it right. Was he the best?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Was he the leading rusher in a season?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen? He was the team's leading rusher, but it
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: was probably something like not great five hundred and seventy yards.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Okay. That was also the like lost year.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: For Adrian Peterson when he ended up being basically suspended.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: The whole year. But that was a Jennings year. That
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: was Teddy's rookie year. Was that Everson Griffin's rookie year too?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: No Griffin or was he a few years into his
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: career at that point?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: When when did Griffin his rookie yar was twenty ten?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Matt Osciata, I think what what I'll always
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: remember is that game where he had something like thirty
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: rushes for fifty yards and three touchdowns. I'm pretty sure
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: remember what season that was. That might have been that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen season.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: It was a crazy stat like that, and it was
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: just funny that he it seemed like he was always
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: good for a multiple touchdown. He never scored just one touchdown.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: It felt like he was always good for multiple touchdowns
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: or none.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Well, he was that goal line guy, like he was bigger.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He's listed as a full back on this Pro Football
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Reference website, even though I think he was less of
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a traditional full back and more of kind of a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: utility back. But he was always put in in those
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: goal line to go situations and usually muscled his way
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: into the end zone. Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, I found the stats, so, at least at the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: time of the article, I found he is the first
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: player in NFL history to reach nine career rushing touchdowns
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: on the strength of three separate three touchdown performances. So
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: all nine of his touchdowns came via three games. In
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: each of those games, he had three touchdowns.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of crazy. That is crazy. Yeah, he
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: was a fun one. He was funny. He was all
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: tatted up right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, smo and yeah super cool.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And I don't know he I think he only ever
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: played for the Vikings, didn't he Yeah? I think yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: he only ever at least in the regular season. Was
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Reference, started in twenty twelve and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: finished in twenty sixteen. Okay. Not a flashy guy, not
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: one that's like, Oh, Adrian Peterson Robert Smith. Right, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: he's a memorable name. Like Vikings fans from that era
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: will be like, oh, yeah, I remember Matt Osciata. All right, Swedes,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: do one more? Sure, Yeah, we'll go for it. All right,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: one more name here. We talked about this guy, I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: think before we started recording. But Brad Johnson. Brad Johnson,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Brad Johnson. He started his career with the Vikings, then
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: he left. He actually won a Super Bowl, and then
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: he came back and he didn't win a Super Bowl. Yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: He was with the Vikings from ninety four through ninety eight,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: which is crazy.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: He was. He was on the ninety eight team. He
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: was a backup, yeah, Randall cunning game. And then he.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: He was with Washington for a couple of years, Tampa
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Bay for four or so years. That's where he won
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, and then came back in two thousand
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and five, in two thousand and six to the Vikings,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and then finished off a couple of years in Dallas. Yeah,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Brad Johnson. One thing I'll never forget about him is
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: in I think it was six, he helped the team to,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: among other things, at least one eight game win streak
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: during that it's either five or six.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's got to be five because they only won six games.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah six, okay, but uh yeah, that was he. He
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was fun to watch.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: His son has bounced around college football quite a bit,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and one of our most most viewed tiktoks is my
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: injury video of Brad Johnson's son breaking his leg against
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the Golden Gophers early in the twenty four season, out
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: which you laugh, You're you're a sicko for.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Laughing at that. You posted it, not me. I did,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't laughing and probably laughed. Actually, Brad Johnson,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I think he was a really good Viking. He was.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It was him and Warren Moon that were the quarterbacks
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: when I first started paying attention when I was really young,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: like kindergarten, and I first started to learn what football
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: was and first started to realize that my parents are
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: kind of actually kind of crazy about Vikings football, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like this is what we do, and we come home
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: from church on Sundays as we flip on the TV
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and we watch football all afternoon. So those were good
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: memories for me. And then of course when we were
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: in high school, Brad Johnson came back and that was
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, this guy's kind of old and
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: washed up. But he did have that eight game win
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: streak in the five season, so I was like, okay, maybe,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: but anyways, yeah, Brad Johnson.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: All right, my last one. I'm kind of mulling between two,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: but I think I'll take the nicer one.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: CJ. Ham. What are your thoughts on? CJ. Ham? Oh,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that guy. I would buy that guy a beer right now.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he drinks, but well, I would
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: buy that guy whatever he wanted to drink wherever we went.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: That guy, that's just he's a quality guy. Yeah. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think inside and out. I think football player or not.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's just a great guy. I think he's
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: been the Vikings Man of the Year candidate at least
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, at least a few times, which
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: says something about him. He's actually kind of like two
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: or three degrees away from me, like I know people
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: that know him. I think we've talked about this before.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: We both have if we really wanted to fight super
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: hard for it, we both have avenues that we might
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: be able to get in contact with him.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mine would be very I have one route that
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: would quickly fall apart if it fell through.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: But well, all that to say, I think really highly
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: of CJ. Ham. I think he plays a position that's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: kind of a lost art in modern football today. Not
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: many teams carry a fullback anymore. And I think he's feeling,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: especially now in a very West Coast heavy offense, a
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: very Sean McVay offense like Kevin O'Connell runs. He's feeling
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the effects of underutilized fullbacks. Yeah, and he's been relegated
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: to special teams pretty heavily since KOC came around. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: think Zimmer used him a little more, But I don't
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: know c J. Ham. I hope the guy retires a Viking,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and I hope they treat him right, and I hope
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: he continues to be involved in the franchise long after
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: he's done playing.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely seems like one of those guys that
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: he deserves every good thing that happens to him. And
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: there's it's not like there's been, you know, multiple stories
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: where he's like broken into burning houses and saved entire
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: families or do anything crazy. I just think he's a solid,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: you know, upstanding dude. You hear about him every once
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: in a while, and him being charitable. You see social
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: media post of like him and his family and how they're.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Just good people.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: It would be shocking to hear like that they ever
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: did anything, you know, unsettling, like they just seem like
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: the Hams seem like good, good people. CJ has never
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: been a stat sheet warrior. I think as far as
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: rushing yards goes, and yes he's a fullback, they don't
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: do a lot of on the feet, you know, stat
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: sheet things. But he's had his most rushing yards ever
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: in a season was thirty four, his most receiving yards
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: ever in a season was twenty six. He's scored a
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: few touchdowns, a couple receiving and four rushing. At one
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: point he had like a five year stretch between scoring
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown or any touchdown, I guess, but it
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: definitely seems like the Minnesota Vikings are a better team
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: with him on there. As far as fullbacks goes, he
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: seems like one of the better ones.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: In the league.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: He's made a couple pro bools at least one, if
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: not more than that, and I think he's still on
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the roster, am I right.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think as far as we know right now,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: as of the recording of this episode. I think he
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: is an active Viking. I don't think his I'm pretty
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: sure his contract isn't up until next year or the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: year after. I could be wrong, but no, but CJM. Yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: he is a modern Viking through and through and again.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I hope he finishes his career with
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the Vikings, and then I hope he's one of those
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: guys that just sticks around that just you know, he
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: for the love of the team, for the love of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the city, for the love of the franchise, just sticks
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: it out. Did you find any on this contract he is?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: He is on.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: His contract runs through twenty twenty five, so he'll be
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: with the team, or it has a contract with the
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: team through this next season.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's kind of what I thought.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And as far as spot Rack goes, the Vikings don't
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: seem to gain a lot if they were to cut him,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: like in training camp or anything. So it seems like
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: unless he just totally crashes out, or if the Vikings
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: sign a fullback and undrafted free agency or anything, seems
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like he's got a good route to still be on
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the team in twenty twenty five.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: All right, So I think maybe a way to wrap
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: this up. So we've talked a lot about those lost seasons,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the seasons where they should have been great and they weren't,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: or the obvious heartbreaker seasons where they you know, were
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game, they got so close and
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they just couldn't finish it out. The Vikings have been
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to four Super Bowls, and we talked again before we
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: started recording about how dominant they were in the late
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: sixties and the seventies. We weren't alive then, we did
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: not come to aliveness until.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Why'd you say that? That sounds so weird, just trying
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: to be created were born until the early nineties, we.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Were not alive yet. I'm just going to try to
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: find really awkward ways to say that we didn't. We
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: did not not live and we have we had not
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: emerged from don't Anyways, if you could go back in
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: time and relive one of those old seasons, you have
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: to pick one. Which one would you pick? And why?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: All right? I don't know, men, I don't think I would.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I think I'd relive like O nine or something instead
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: of one of those older wings. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: it would have been cool to see Fran Tarkenton play,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: but we kind of can. I'm sure through the Internet,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: we'd be able to see most, if not all, of
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the games of any one of those seasons. It would
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: be cool to experience like the met you know, in
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: its glory. It would be cool to see Fran Targanton
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and the likes of him play at the same time.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: That'd be interesting to see. But because none of those
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: seasons ended with a Super Bowl victory, I don't know
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: if I could, if it would even be worth it.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: If one of those were a super Bowl victory, and
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I'd definitely say that one that'd.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Be too easy. Excuse me, But yeah, I don't know.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I'd probably if given the to go back and really
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: have any season, I'd probably say like nine or something,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: or maybe ninety eight, just to fully indoctrinate myself.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Into the you don't want to know, Vikings fan, you
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: want to relive those terrible moments, because I don't even
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: know that losing the Super Bowl in sixty nine, seventy three,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: seventy four, or seventy six comes even close to the
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: heartbreak of fifteen and one and ninety eight, or the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: brutal massacre of bounty gate in nine, I don't know.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I think maybe going back to was it sixty nine
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: when they eventually lost to was it the Chiefs?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Sixty nine was Super Bowl four, and I think they
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: So that was still early enough into the right before
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: the merger that I think they were considered NFL champions
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: heading into that game, and the Chiefs.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Were the AFL champions, and then they met in the
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: super Bowl to determine the worldampion.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that Super Bowl was the
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: first one that they called it the Super like marketed
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: as the Super Bowl, and the three before that was
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: A championship AFL NFL champion.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So maybe maybe sixty nine if I
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: could go back, because then I'd still be like, well,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: at least they're the UNFL champions, you know, like I
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, there's at least something to hang your hat on.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You have a really good way of any time I
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: ask these questions, you just dodge your way out of them,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: but you eventually answered them. Usually I'd appreciate it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I did, so sixty nine if I had to answer,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: what about you, which one would you go back to?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I think I'd go back a little more recently. I
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: think i'd pick probably like seventy three, seventy four, or
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: seventy six. All of those were Super Bowl losing seasons,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: But seventy three was the year after the Dolphins went perfect,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: and then the next year they won it again against
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the Vikings.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: But those would have been like that would have been
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, Yea, ron Yary, Carl Eller, Alan
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Page would have still been around. I mean, all of
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: those big names from Vikings Lore would have been there.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And of course Bud Grant was the coach for all
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of those teams. The sixty nine season was Joe cap
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: he was the quarterback. Fran Tarkenton hadn't been drafted yet.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: No, that was during the gap. Sorry, I hate being
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: this guy. I recognize that I'm this guy, but I
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: hate being it. This gap sixty nine that was.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was when he was when he was in
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the with the Giants, wasn't he He had traded to
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: New York.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: So because Tarkenton, he was the second starting quarterback for
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. And that was the week after, you know,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: the second game the Vikings ever played.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So you're right, I was mistaken. But Tarkenton wasn't playing
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: in the sixteen nine Super Bowl, I guess is the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make. And nothing against Joe Capp,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: but he's not Fran Target. He's not Fran Tarkted. So
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I would have picked those later seventies early seventies years
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: when they lost those super Bowls. But man, I'm just
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: looking at this. Sixty eight, first in the division lost
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the divisional round sixty nine, First in the division lost
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl seventy First in the division lost in
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: the divisional round seventy one. First in the division loss
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: in the division round seventy two. Not a great season.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: They finished third. It was a down year seventy three.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the Super Bowl seventy four.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the Super Bowl seventy five.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the divisional round seventy six.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the Super Bowl seventy seven.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the conference championship Game seventy eight.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: First in the division lost the championship game. Had another
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: down year in seventy nine, and in nineteen eighty they
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: were first in the division and lost in the divisional round.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: It's no wonder that my parents who grew up in
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: that era were so crazy about Vikings football when I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: was a kid, and they finally had like a head
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: coach in Denny Green who was worth watching. Again.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings historically, they they are the greatest team
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: overall to not win a Super Bowl. Yeah that's they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: came so close so many times, and yeah close isn't there,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: but it's it's crazy that you can. That's why you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: look at you know, some of these historical stats like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: overall win percentage and most divisions won, like division championships,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: and like playoff appearances, and the Vikings are right up
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: there with the Patriots and the Steelers and the dominant
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Cowboys and everything like that. It's just them and the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Bills are some of the greatest franchises that have never won,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: which is heartbreaking.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Keep talking, I'm counting, and it really is.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I think the Bills are catching up to the Vikings
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: with their recent years because for a lot of years
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: they had some dominant nineties years and never won it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: But then we're the Bills for most of our lifetime
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: have been just horrible until five ish six ish years ago.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: But still the current bills are like the seventies Vikings
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: where they're right up there, but they can't they can't
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Thirty two seasons the Vikings have made the playoffs in
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: franchise history, which that's saying something like that's a good
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: percentage of.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: That's almost half your seasons, if not half the seasons,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it's I.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Don't think it's quite half because they started in what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: sixty one? Yeah so, and sixty one was maybe the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: most forgettable season in Vikings history. So it was sixty two.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: They weren't very good to start. Well, no, no, no
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: expansion franchise is. But yeah, so sixty one till now
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: is what's the math on that? Eighty not eighty years,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: sixty four sixty four years. It's a good thing you're
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: good at math and I teach English. Yeah, so.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Half the years, half the seasons the Vikings have made
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So you can almost guarantee that one out of every
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: two years the Vikings will make the playoffs.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: And after all that, they've never they've never given us
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: a T shirt game, We've never we've never gotten to.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Buy the DVD of the a T shirt NFC North Champs.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I had that T shirt when I was a kid.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: It's like the playoff version of tying. Actually, I at
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: one point won a Twitter contest from the Vikings' Twitter account.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: It's like one of those like, hey, retweet this and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: you could win a hat. And this was a handful
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: of years ago, right after the Vikings had won a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: division and then obviously didn't go on to win the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: super Bowl, and I retweeted it and I want it.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: So I have a very generic NFC North Division champs,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: and I forget the year, but that is the hat
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I wear every time I mow the lawn. For all
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: those very interested listeners out there.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Well, if we ever see you mow the lawn, we'll
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: know where you got that hat. Yeah, any last little
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of like just Viking stuff you got to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: get off your chest. I mean we've talked about a lot,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: but anything you need to get off your chest here
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: before we wrap this up.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: So I will say this whole episode has kind of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: been tongue in cheek negative. You know, this team loves
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: to hate us. So here's all the heartbreaking things and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: all the players that never got one with the Vikings.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: But I will say I still love being a Vikings fan.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I feel good about the current state of the team.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like for our whole lives, the Vikings have
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: always had a positive aura around them since us Bank
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Stadium opened, they you know, it's one of the best
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: stadiums in all of sports, if not the best, but
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: you know, definitely up there. In recent years, they keep
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: winning awards of like you know, the players voted the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Vikings as like they've.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Got the best cafeteria and the best coaching staff.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: And it's like the best, you know, one of the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: best Atmosphpears for players to to work in as players
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: in the whole league. So this this team and coach
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: O'Connell definitely seems like a it feels like he's gonna
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: do something like if the Vikings have ever had a
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: coach that's gonna win a super Bowl at some point,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: he he seems like the guy that can do it.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: So after looking at all this heartbreak and really having
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: no real tangible they've never won a championship, I still
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: feel good about this team, and I still feel good
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that I'm entering, you know, bringing my kids into this
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Vikings fanhood journey. And at some point, I truly think
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: all of us will be celebrating a championship and it'll
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: be so awesome and it will make all of these
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: heartbreaks so worth.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: It is that gonna be this year, I hope.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: So I probably they're probably gonna win like two games
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: this year, you know, like after all of this, Like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just never know, and it sucks, and
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: every playoff loss is like there's another year of my
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: life gone. And then you have to remind yourself like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: they don't they don't even know who I am. Like
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: this is just entertainment. It's just the best reality TV
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: show ever, And it still sucks to see a playoff loss.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: But they're just they're gonna do it. I think they're
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: gonna do it sometime.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely with you on the optimism. And I think
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: my optimism feeds off of Koc's optimism and Kuoisia dolfa
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Mensa's optimism. I think both of them have these really
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: positive vibes about them. We've seen like Koc just has
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: a way with the players in the locker room, Like
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: he has this wonderful locker room presence that just like
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: even in a loss, like he knows how to keep
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: things positive. Now, truth be told we saw like in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the Receiver documentary series, he can get on them, like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: he'll hold them accountable and who he will express his
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: emotions negatively when necessary, but KOs definitely keeps it positive
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: most of the time. He knows that that's the key
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: to keeping players motivated to go out and play at
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: their best. And I think having Quasi this GM that
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: just has a positive demeanor. Also, it's there's a lot
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: of optimism around thisranchise right now, and it's exciting and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: hopefully that optimism leads to greener grass. Yeah, for this.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Franchise, slight change, slight tangent before we close it out.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Excuse me.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: There's a content creator and I forget his exact name,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: but it's something like Brad breaks bad news or something
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: like Mike breaks bad news or something. People will send him,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: you know, some money to contact someone they know and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: break bad news, and usually it's like, yeah, this dude
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: that you're friends.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: With, he actually kind of hates you.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, and he just like they pay him to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: break bad news to other people or like, hey, I'm
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: breaking up with you, you know, stuff like that. I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: feel like, if I ever get life altering bad news,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I'd want it to come from Kevin O'Connell because he
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: would just he it feels like he'd feel it with me,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you know, and he'd just break it down and be
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: like it was this, this and this, and I'm really sorry, man,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: but this is the bad news. And it would almost
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: make it feel not as bad. But like he you
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: said something like he just he articulates things so well
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: and he's so passionate about it. And yeah, when when
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: he wins the super Bowl with our favorite Vikings team,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be that much sweeter because you know, just
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: like Paul Allen, they feel it. They want it like
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: it's not just a job, it's it's their life.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: You know. It's awesome for sure. No, that's that's a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: good comparison. I've never even heard of that.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the dude's name, but it's kind
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: of funny to watch, Like, hey, you know, Josh paid
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: me ten bucks. He he wants to break this news
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: to you, and people are always like, what what do
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: you mean crash my car?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: What? You know? What?
• 1:08:51
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• 1:08:53
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• 1:08:56
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• 1:09:01
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• 1:09:03
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• 1:09:06
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• 1:09:12
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• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:21
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• 1:09:24
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• 1:09:27
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• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:34
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:41
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• 1:09:43
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• 1:09:46
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• 1:09:49
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• 1:09:56
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• 1:10:29
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• 1:10:53
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• 1:10:56
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• 1:11:04
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• 1:11:07
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  Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, see what are you doing there? I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: don't know. That was just a poor effort. I watched
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: special I just need to fix this money. If we
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: get really bored, we can just do a segment on that.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Remember all those great Sports Center commercials. I think we
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: have done that. We've done like a half a segment
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: on that, I think. So, I don't know that it
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: was ever a segment. I think it was just in
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the Blue bers it. Yeah, I know, we have talked
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: about it, yeah, and then we watched it back. I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: think I referenced to the one where Derek Jeter is
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who was using his razor and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: it was very obviously the green mascot. He's walking around
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: the locker room like, did you use my razor? Did
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: you use my razor? All right, so what we're saying
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: is nobody here he used my razor. And then the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: green mascot walks by and you can see where he shave.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: He's just proud of himself. That's a good one. Or
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: there's the one where uh big Poppy, uh his name
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: puts on the Yankees hat and the Red Sox mascot
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: walks by. Wally, No, it's not what it looks like.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Or there's the one where the whatever his name, the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: soccer player kicks the copy machine and it spits out
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: a yellow card, and then he kicks it again and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: it spits out a red car. That's a good one. Yeah,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: there's some good football player ones too. Peterson Adrian Smith
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: was in one. Yeah. He was talking about his nickname.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: He's talking to Scott van Pelt about his nickname. He's like, yeah,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: my dad just call me all day because I just
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: had all this energy and I just kept going all
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: day and I just stuck. And then he looks at
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Scott van Pelt and he goes, what about you? Do
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: you have a nickname around here? And he's like, oh, no,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I don't have a nickname. And then they're walking by
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: some people and someone goes, oh, hey, bad weather. That's
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a good one. Isn't there a one with the New
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Jersey Devil. He's like in an ovator or something going
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: down or going up. That's a good one too. Or
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: there's one with Alex Ovechkin and they're like joking with
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: him like a Russian spot. Yeah. They're like you're probably
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: just a Russian spy. That's funny. And then they all
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: leave and then he's like, all right, guys, come down
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: and they're like coming down and stealing stuff. And that's
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: a funny one too. We're gonna have to watch those
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: before I leave tonight. There's a good there's some like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: good compilation videos out there YouTube.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Oh you remember the like fantasy football ones. Well, there's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: one that's like the dude is like at a beach
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: with his girlfriend or whatever, and Adrian Peterson is in
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: the chair next to him and he's like, it's like
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: the mobile app for fantasy football.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you can draft anywhere.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: And he looks over at his girlfriend who he's like said,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: he's on fantasy football, but it's actually Adrian Peterson. He's like, Oh,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: you're so silly, Adrian Peterson.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: That's funny. I don't know if I remember that one.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's worth looking at. Okay, Oh yeah, Sunday after
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: the picture Peterson again, I remember that one.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Don't be silly, Adrian Peterson. So I had it all wrong,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: but you weren't entirely wrong. I had even the punchline wrong.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Ledanian Tomlinson in the mail room. That's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: a good one. We'll watch it. We've got work to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: do first. It's in the it's queued up though it's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: in the queue, ready to go. Oh, the TV brightened
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: up again. It's weird how it does that. I'm not.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: I don't get worried about it anymore. He used to
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: kind of freak me out a little. I think it's
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: just a TV thing. It's all good, all right, we've
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: hit our twenty minute quota and we didn't start. Now, sweet,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm ready,