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Mac & Bone Show - Lomas Brown Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Lions, the offense, the way the
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  Speaker 1: defense is playing, and how they match up with the Panthers,
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: with a man that played in the trenches in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL for years. He is and has been for a
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  Speaker 1: while now, the color analyst on the Lions radio network.
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  Speaker 1: He is Lomas Brown, and he joins us on the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone show here in Charlotte. Lomas, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing? I'm doing great, guys. Feeling good, man.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I love the energy, too. I can
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  Speaker 2: feel it. I can hear it in your voices.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool, and I know you're going to bring the energy, too.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked to you in the past. From the outside
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  Speaker 1: looking in, do you think the Lions are licking their
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  Speaker 1: chops over the Panthers' injury situation? Horn and Mike Jackson
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  Speaker 1: both out. I mean, it's going to be three backups
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Do you feel like the Lions
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  Speaker 1: are looking at the Panthers as vulnerable? Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: that way?
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this, welcome to our world. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 2: been dealing with this all year long with Kirby Branch,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph, you know, Avante Maddox.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're depleted of safeties and we lost one
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  Speaker 2: in our corner. So we've been dealing with this all
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  Speaker 2: season long. And, you know, again, on the defensive side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball, you see we haven't played well and
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  Speaker 2: it's been because of the injury. So I think, yes,
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  Speaker 2: the Lions, especially on the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: they have to be looking at this game as a
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  Speaker 2: game offensively to try to get right. Because even though
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  Speaker 2: we put 31 points up in each of our first games,
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  Speaker 2: our offense still hadn't been clicking the way it's been
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  Speaker 2: clicking in the past. And it is a concern, and
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  Speaker 2: those guys are trying to remedy that. And we're hoping
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  Speaker 2: that Sunday that can happen for the Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 3: How much of a concern on our end do you
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  Speaker 3: think it's going to be? No J.C. Horn, Mike Jackson
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  Speaker 3: in the secondary against those wideouts. We've been worried about Gibbs-Lomas,
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  Speaker 3: but now those wideouts versus our secondary, how big of
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  Speaker 3: a problem will that be on the Panther side?
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  Speaker 2: It could be a major problem. As you say, man,
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  Speaker 2: we bring out Jameis Williams. We have Amon Ross St. Brown,
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  Speaker 2: probably one of the best wide receivers in this game
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  Speaker 2: at catching the ball and running routes. We got the
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  Speaker 2: young fella in Isaac Tesla, who we're trying to incorporate
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  Speaker 2: in our game plan. And then we have the reliable
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  Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. Very, very good tight end. So we have
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  Speaker 2: weapons to attack you guys, I just think from what
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  Speaker 2: we've been going through, the best way to attack a
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  Speaker 2: great passing offense is by getting those front four, front
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  Speaker 2: five guys to get pressure sacks hits on your quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: If your quarterback doesn't have a lot of time to
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  Speaker 2: stand back there and scan the field and let those
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  Speaker 2: routes develop, then I think that can help your secondary
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  Speaker 2: so much. And that's the same formula we're looking for
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  Speaker 2: here in Detroit while our secondary tries to mend itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a good point. And we definitely want
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  Speaker 1: to talk more about how Bryce might be able to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of your secondary. That's a happier conversation for us.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about your O-line, Lomas.
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  Speaker 1: You are playing a rookie that we know in the
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  Speaker 1: Carolinas from Clemson and Blake Miller. It seems like he's
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  Speaker 1: been pretty good. Sewell's on the other side. Like how
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  Speaker 1: has your past protection been, you know, and can Carolina
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  Speaker 1: get pressure on golf?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah. First of all, the big,
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  Speaker 2: the big fella has some glorious hair, as you can
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  Speaker 2: see from the commercial with Jared. So he has a very,
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  Speaker 2: very lovely looking lock of hair, but, but he has
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  Speaker 2: been fantastic, man. I've been watching Blake since training camp.
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  Speaker 2: because of the nature of the position. And I tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, man, been impressed since day one with some
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  Speaker 2: of the little things that he was able to do.
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  Speaker 2: Great pass sets, hands in the ready position, keeping his
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  Speaker 2: shoulders parallel to the offensive line. Just little things like
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  Speaker 2: that that you're watching rookies do. They normally struggle with that.
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  Speaker 2: And he came in because of all the college experience
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  Speaker 2: he had. He's just stepped right in there. So he's
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  Speaker 2: part of that line. He's a part of what makes
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  Speaker 2: our offensive line go. He's been very, very valuable for
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  Speaker 2: us this year so far. So I'm definitely looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to him coming. playing on Sunday. He's been very good
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  Speaker 2: for us this year so far.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually just texting with former NFL defensive lineman
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  Speaker 3: and coach, Brenton Buckner, about this during the commercial break there.
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  Speaker 3: The Panthers had a ton of problems week one with
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  Speaker 3: the Ben Johnson offense, 59 points given up. How much
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  Speaker 3: of the DNA of Ben Johnson's offense is still paramount
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  Speaker 3: with the Lions offense?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question because it's still something. You can
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  Speaker 2: see some of the residue, and it's good residue, of
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson left on this offense. Of course, Drew Petzin,
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  Speaker 2: our new offensive coordinator, is putting his stamp on this team.
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  Speaker 2: But it's things that you see every now and then,
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  Speaker 2: or more so than every now and then. It's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things that you see that Ben Johnson does.
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  Speaker 2: instilled in this office that we're still using especially uh
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  Speaker 2: with jameer gibbs right now who's become pretty much uh
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  Speaker 2: i would say i hate to say a poor man's
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  Speaker 2: version of barry because all the money jameer just got
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  Speaker 2: but another version a very rich version of barry sanders
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  Speaker 2: how we're using this guy, especially coming out the backfield,
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  Speaker 2: catching the ball, some of the moves he can make
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  Speaker 2: in the run game. We're coming back with some of
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  Speaker 2: our trickeration, some of our trick plays. We're starting to
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  Speaker 2: incorporate those more into our offense. And, you know, that
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  Speaker 2: was a big staple of Ben Johnson when he was here.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see some of it there. But Drew
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  Speaker 2: Petsine is more and more putting his fingerprint on this
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  Speaker 2: offense each and every week.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with Lomas Brown, former O-lineman in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. radio analyst. I just want to say something.
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  Speaker 1: Six time all pro Lomas Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to, I'm underselling. I'm underselling baby. All right, Lomas,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to y'all's defense. Cause I do feel like
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's where maybe the hope lies for us to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of all those secondary injuries. Y'all been giving
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  Speaker 1: up a ton of pass yards. There's no secret why,
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  Speaker 1: but to your point earlier in the interview, a pass
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  Speaker 1: rush can negate that the Panthers are banged up on
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  Speaker 1: the O-line and How has that dynamic worked? I know
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  Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson's been good. How has it worked? Because even
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  Speaker 1: though y'all have had some good pass rush, you still
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  Speaker 1: have been vulnerable at the back end. How has that
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  Speaker 1: played out this year?
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  Speaker 2: You're so right about that. And the thing about it is,
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  Speaker 2: so this is kind of what I expect you guys
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  Speaker 2: to do. I expect you guys to slide the line.
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  Speaker 2: I expect you guys to chip in. I expect you
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  Speaker 2: guys to put the tight end over to Aiden Hutchinson's
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  Speaker 2: side so you can get maybe one or two guys
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  Speaker 2: on him. But what that means is the other guys
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  Speaker 2: on that defensive line, I'm sorry, the other guys on
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  Speaker 2: that defensive line, they have one-on-one matchups. And that's when
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  Speaker 2: you have to win your one-on-one matchups. When you got
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  Speaker 2: a dominant guy that you're going to pay a lot
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  Speaker 2: of attention to, like Aiden Hutchinson, then those other guys
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  Speaker 2: that got one-on-one blocks, they have to be able to
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  Speaker 2: defeat those one-on-one blocks. And it's the same with us.
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  Speaker 2: You know, on our defensive side, trying to attack you guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's... I'm sorry, that side has to be. So... Again,
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  Speaker 2: one-on-one matchups, those guys have to win those one-on-one matchups.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of how we did it last game when
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  Speaker 2: you see DJ Wanham get two sacks. You've seen Aline
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  Speaker 2: McNeil get a sack. You know, that's what has to
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  Speaker 2: happen to affect these great offenses because if these quarterbacks...
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  Speaker 2: if they have time to sit back and scan the field,
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  Speaker 2: or if pre-snap they can see where you're bringing the
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  Speaker 2: pressure from or bringing the blitz from, they have blitz beaters.
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  Speaker 2: These quarterbacks are too good in this league to show
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  Speaker 2: them what you're going to do. So that's part of
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  Speaker 2: it is disguising it, but yet still winning those one-on-one
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  Speaker 2: matchups when you have them.
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  Speaker 3: Lomas, you spent a decade, 85 to 95, as a Lion.
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  Speaker 3: So that means from 89 to 95, you were blocking
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  Speaker 3: for Barry Sanders. I sometimes go on YouTube and just watch, like,
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  Speaker 3: the 45-minute highlight videos of his best moments. Do you
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  Speaker 3: have a favorite run?
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  Speaker 2: I love the one.
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  Speaker 3: Was it against the– there's one against the Patriots, right,
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  Speaker 3: when he turns the DB sideways and the guy gets confused?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, yes. Look, there's so many. It's that one
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  Speaker 2: against the Patriots. You can think about the one against
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  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears where everybody had them pinned in and
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  Speaker 2: he hurdled the guy and took it to the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: You could talk about the one versus Buffalo. It was
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  Speaker 2: only a two-yard touchdown, but that's the one where he
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  Speaker 2: put his hand on the ground and pirouette all the
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  Speaker 2: way back around to get in the end zone. Or
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  Speaker 2: you could talk about the one against the Dallas Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: when we were in the playoff game when he bounced
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  Speaker 2: and Tony Casillas was just standing there and Barry was
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  Speaker 2: behind him running. It's just so many. I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this real fast. For me, every Monday, every
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  Speaker 2: Monday we went and watched film, myself and Kevin Glover,
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  Speaker 2: it would be five plays. Every Monday you would say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God, how did he get out of that? It
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  Speaker 2: may be a one-yard gain. It may be a two-yard loss.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to be the best one-yard or two-yard
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  Speaker 2: loss you've ever seen in your life. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I still think he's the greatest, man. I still do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. To this minute. All right, last question
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  Speaker 1: about the current Lions, I would ask. And Bone kind
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  Speaker 1: of went there with his question about remnants of Ben
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  Speaker 1: Johnson's offense. But I think there is a feeling in
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  Speaker 1: the football world that, hey, they're just not the same
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  Speaker 1: team as they were when Ben Johnson was calling the plays.
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  Speaker 1: And on the other side, Aaron Glenn was a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Do you push back on that, or do you feel like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that has hurt us a fair amount?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? No, I mean, I think any
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  Speaker 2: time you lose coordinators that become head coaches, that tells you, one,
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  Speaker 2: how great they were because they're head coaches now. So
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  Speaker 2: anytime you lose coordinators like that, yes, it is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a setback for this team. And not just coordinators.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget, we lost players, too. When you talk about
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  Speaker 2: Kalief Raymond and some of the other players that we lost.
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  Speaker 2: All for the offense and the defensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: either due to free agency or injury. So, yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to hurt. But I think now, I think we're
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  Speaker 2: starting to get our footing and our identity. We're starting
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  Speaker 2: to claim that. Look, this is a new NFL. Now
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  Speaker 2: it takes time. takes you to week three or four
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season to find out what type of
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  Speaker 2: team you have because you don't play the preseason. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my goodness. These first games of the season are like
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  Speaker 2: preseason games for teams. So you don't really know what
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  Speaker 2: you have. I think now you can start saying, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is the identity of our team. This is how
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  Speaker 2: our team is going to look, and this is how
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  Speaker 2: our team is going to win if we win games.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me do this right. Lomas Brown says,
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  Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl champion, and he is a six-time All-Pro,
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  Speaker 1: and he's pretty darn good at doing the talking about
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  Speaker 1: football thing, too. Lomas, thank you for coming on, man.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy Charlotte this week. Unfortunately, it'll be raining like crazy,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like, but hey, we appreciate you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Be good. Hey, I appreciate you guys having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Lomas.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, Lomas Brown.