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'Disney' family of five 'disappears.' Then cops smell stench at luxury condo · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: What happens to an entire family seemingly going missing in
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Speaker 1: or about their Disney condo. I'm taking a look at
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Speaker 1: their photo right now, the mom and three beautiful children.
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Speaker 1: What so many people would not give to have a
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Speaker 1: gorgeous family like this. Two boys, I mean they all
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Speaker 1: have on matching It looks like Pj's all of them.
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Speaker 1: The dad, the mom, two boys, a girl, and the
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Speaker 1: dog poking up at the bottom of the photo. It's
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Speaker 1: an all American dream. What goes wrong with the whole
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Speaker 1: family goes missing? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories,
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and the owner on Family
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Speaker 1: Physical Therapy. Tony Tott, his wife, and their three young
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Speaker 1: children and dog have not been seen or heard from
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Speaker 1: in weeks, and my staff realized that something's amiss, and
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Speaker 1: they followed him, followed the online stuff and said he's
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Speaker 1: really missing. A Facebook page created over a week ago
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Speaker 1: by family and friends of the family of five looking
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Speaker 1: for answers and their disappearance. They say the Todd family
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Speaker 1: had recently moved to Celebration, Florida from Colchester, but say
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Speaker 1: that Tony had traveled back and forth to continue to
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Speaker 1: run his Colchester business. The community still waiting for many
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Speaker 1: answers to the questions about a family that was loved
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Speaker 1: by so many in this community. Over the years in town,
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Speaker 1: he always seemed very generous, helpful. They were always doing
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Speaker 1: things for the community. I know around Christmas they were
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Speaker 1: taking a collection for a family and need really nice guy.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing our friends at sixty one. That's actually Afonso
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Speaker 1: speaking what happens to an entire family. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: It is extremely rare for an entire family to just
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Speaker 1: drop off the map. I've covered several cases like that,
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Speaker 1: investigated several cases like that, and they are extremely rare.
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Speaker 1: Just a handful of cases with me to break it
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Speaker 1: down and put it back together again. Renown defense attorney
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Speaker 1: former prosecutor out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Daryl Cohen, detective,
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Speaker 1: author of Outside Your Door. You can find him at
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley dot com. Stephen Lampley psychoanalyst, two celebs. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall joining me out of Beverly Hills at doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com. Renounce South Carolina Medical Examiner, author
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Speaker 1: of homicide investigation field guy doctor Michelle Dupre But right
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Speaker 1: now to crime online dot Com investigate every reporter, Lee Egan,
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Speaker 1: Let's start at the beginning. When did the Now I'm
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Speaker 1: understanding it's pronounced Tote family go missing has not been
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Speaker 1: seen since mid December by some neighbors, November by other neighbors. Wow,
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Speaker 1: but their family says that they spoke to them or
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Speaker 1: texted them on January sixth, speaking only to the father,
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Speaker 1: none of the other family. So if those accounts are
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Speaker 1: to be believed, we know that the entire family was
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Speaker 1: seen in mid December, just before Christmas. The dad was
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Speaker 1: texting normally at the beginning of January. The whole family
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Speaker 1: goes missing, though out of sight, and it all seems
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Speaker 1: to be swirling around the Disney, the Disney complex and
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Speaker 1: celebration in Florida. Now, let's talk about that for one moment.
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Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen, defense attorney, joining us out of Atlanta. Daryl,
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Speaker 1: I know, with all your children you must have gone
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Speaker 1: to Disney. I actually got to live down there for
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Speaker 1: I guess six months. When I was covering the top
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Speaker 1: Mom Casey Anthony case. We went to Disney all the time,
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Speaker 1: all the time, because I would be in court all
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Speaker 1: day and my husband and two babysitters would take the
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Speaker 1: children to Disney, and I would pass celebration en route
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Speaker 1: to the entrance to Disney. I didn't know what it was,
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Speaker 1: I said, David, what is that. It's this beautiful kind
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Speaker 1: of a resort community built for Disney lovers, That's what
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Speaker 1: it is, Darryl. Yeah, Nancy, I've been to Disney so
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Speaker 1: many times. I think I grew my own mouse ears.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I love it, and it's very, very close,
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Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be the epitome of good and family,
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Speaker 1: fun and wholesomeness. Well, I don't like what you just said,
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Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen. It's supposed to be, because in my mind
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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you don't even step on a
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Speaker 1: piece of gum at Disney. That's just not going to happen, Okay,
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Speaker 1: And you can not that I would do it because
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Speaker 1: I don't want them kidnapped to murder. But at Disney
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Speaker 1: there are so many employees, both in uniform and non uniform.
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Speaker 1: A lot of parents let their children walk free because
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Speaker 1: it really is the happiest place on earth. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I was so inspired we started going on Disney Cruises
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Speaker 1: because we loved Disney so much, and this celebration is
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Speaker 1: a giant community for Disney lovers. You know, there's those people.
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Speaker 1: I actually worked with one of them, doctor Bethany Marshall.
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Speaker 1: You remember my friend who was my first line producer ever,
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Speaker 1: Justin Freeman. He's now at Fox Business. He was with
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Speaker 1: me at Court TV. Then he came with me to
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Speaker 1: HLN and has been a friend and co worker for years.
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Speaker 1: He worked at Disney. He told me all the ins
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Speaker 1: and outs. It's almost like a cult in a good way,
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Speaker 1: because once you're there, you love at Bethany, and people
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Speaker 1: actually move and rebuild their lives to be near Disney. Bethany.
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Speaker 1: It is definitely a club. And not only do they
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Speaker 1: move and change their whole lives, but you know some
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Speaker 1: people I have patience my practice like this, who get
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Speaker 1: yearly passes and whenever they have a free day head
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Speaker 1: down to Disneyland. And it's not just because they have children.
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Speaker 1: These are people in their twenties, thirties, forties. But it
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Speaker 1: is a whole, entire community. And it is a wholesome community.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're talking about is built on
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Speaker 1: family values, fun and kind of a wish to return
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Speaker 1: to childhood to you know, the innocence and the care
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Speaker 1: free nature of that part of life. So there's nothing sinister.
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Speaker 1: I know this is a crime story that we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: that there's nothing sinister about Disneyland. It is the happiest
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Speaker 1: place on earth. Okay, you can all judge me if
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Speaker 1: you want to. But do you know how many times
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Speaker 1: I've been through it's a small world at Disney in Orlando.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how many, well, well over twenty
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Speaker 1: five times, because we would get out and get right
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Speaker 1: back in the rhine and go around and around. Look,
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Speaker 1: this is a fairytale Florida community and it was built
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Speaker 1: by Disney World, and people who love Disney actually go
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Speaker 1: and live there, and other people who want a pretty
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Speaker 1: much crime free, sunny climate, positive attitude at least on
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Speaker 1: the outside, as far as I can see, moved to celebration.
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Speaker 1: That is exactly where this family went. But then suddenly
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Speaker 1: something goes very very wrong because they go missing. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at w FSB Eyewitness News three.
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Speaker 1: This is Kevin Hogan. The family is saying they relocated
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Speaker 1: from Colchester to Celebration Florida. Tonight, we have documents showing
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Speaker 1: Tony's license to practice here in Connecticut was not renewed
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Speaker 1: last September, and in December they were evicted from the
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Speaker 1: house that they lived in Celebration, Florida, and shortly after Thanksgiving,
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Speaker 1: a digital marketing rep visited the Colchester office to talk
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Speaker 1: to Tony about his website and was confronted by what
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Speaker 1: she thought were investigators. I didn't see any badges, but
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Speaker 1: it was a big black truck, and of course that
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Speaker 1: looked this was locked. I couldn't get to the door. Okay,
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Speaker 1: hold on just a moment. Did I just hear eviction? Eviction? That? Oh? Okay,
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Speaker 1: when you get evicted, Darryl Cohen, I need a lawyer.
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Speaker 1: Everybody put a brake on it. When you have an
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Speaker 1: actual eviction, you have gotten all sorts months and months.
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Speaker 1: I've notices that you're going to be thrown out on
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Speaker 1: the street. They don't just show up one day and
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Speaker 1: grab you by the arms, knock on the door, grab
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Speaker 1: you and throw you out on the sidewalk. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: happen like that, Daryl Cohen. When somebody is finally evicted,
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Speaker 1: that's the culmination, literally of months of legal notices of
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Speaker 1: then putting notes on your door, emails, letters, the whole shebang.
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Speaker 1: Explained it to me, I've never really done landlord, tenant
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Speaker 1: or homeowner law. But even though you are a defense attorney,
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Speaker 1: you have to have people connected to your practice that
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Speaker 1: have been evicted or trying to avoid foreclosure. How much
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Speaker 1: notice do you have before you're finally tossed out on
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Speaker 1: the street, well evicted. It's really very simple, Nansie. The
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Speaker 1: landlord wants his or her money, and the people that
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Speaker 1: are being defied that they're going to be evicted haven't paid.
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Speaker 1: You normally get months you're behind, Please pay me, you're behind,
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Speaker 1: Please pay me, And then it goes to a certified letter.
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Speaker 1: You're behind, Please pay me. Then it goes to a
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Speaker 1: certified letter. If you don't pay, we're going to serve
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Speaker 1: you eviction notice. Then the sheriff comes out and gives
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Speaker 1: give a little bit of notice, puts a note on
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Speaker 1: your door if you're not there. If not, gives it
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Speaker 1: to you personally. You're going to be evicted if you
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Speaker 1: don't pay, and then you have a court date. And
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Speaker 1: then if you show up the court date, you could
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Speaker 1: normally get a little bit of time. If you choose
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Speaker 1: to ignore it, then they will give you a week,
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Speaker 1: maybe two weeks to get out. So, Nancy, you're absolutely correct.
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Speaker 1: You get so much notice. They want their money. They
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Speaker 1: don't care, They just don't care. Well, here's the deal.
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Speaker 1: If someone is being evicted, that means that this family,
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Speaker 1: this mom and dad, or at least the dad had
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Speaker 1: because he was the one that it was all registered too.
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Speaker 1: He was getting legal notices. The other day, the twins
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Speaker 1: were at some school trip and I had gone along,
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Speaker 1: and while they were in their quote nature class, I
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Speaker 1: went for a jog. I jogged by Daryl co in
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Speaker 1: this gorgeous home out in the middle kind of in
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Speaker 1: this nature preserve area, in the little slice where you
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Speaker 1: could build homes, and I went, wow, they sure haven't
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Speaker 1: kept up their yard compared to all these other people,
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Speaker 1: these big, beautiful houses. Here. I am trumped through my
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Speaker 1: beat up clothes and tennis shoes, and then as I
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Speaker 1: got closer, I saw a note, a bunch of notes
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Speaker 1: letters on the door. The garage door was up. It
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Speaker 1: looked vacant. One of the windows was broken on top,
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Speaker 1: like a third story window. And I could look at
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Speaker 1: a distance and see. The notes were like pale pink,
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Speaker 1: you know, the pink slip. It was an eviction in
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Speaker 1: that beautiful home, and there were there had to be
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Speaker 1: four letters on the door where they to warn the people.
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Speaker 1: My point is there were problems looming for this family
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Speaker 1: just before they get missing crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: People living your Bia say the couple had three young
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Speaker 1: children and they fear the worst has happened. Despite no
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Speaker 1: confirmation from the sheriff's deputies, Lane Schladder says he played
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Speaker 1: basketball with the Todd children. They were very nice and
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Speaker 1: it's our dealers of run. A next door neighbor took
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Speaker 1: a picture of a man being put in handcuffs at
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Speaker 1: the home Monday morning. The neighbor says that man in
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Speaker 1: the photo appears to be Tony Todd. I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: the family in weeks. That used to always park right
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Speaker 1: in front of us, so we'd see them every day,
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Speaker 1: come in and out with the kids. And the last
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Speaker 1: time I saw them was round Thanksgiving time. This is
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Speaker 1: seemingly the all American family. People back home where they
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Speaker 1: originally came from. At Colchester recounted as the search was
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Speaker 1: on for the family, one guy talked about coaching soccer
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Speaker 1: with the dad, Anthony Tote, and for years they had
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Speaker 1: coached soccer together, their children had played together, and then suddenly,
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Speaker 1: out of the blue, bam, they go missing. Now we
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Speaker 1: know that Toads were in the process of being sued
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Speaker 1: for failure to pay rent at a separate residence. They
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Speaker 1: owed well over four grand. That Celebration, Florida condominium, their
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Speaker 1: reserved place, is what we're talking about. A tenant eviction
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Speaker 1: notice was filed on December twenty two. We also know
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Speaker 1: that notes had been left on the home. There was
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Speaker 1: a one year lease on that home where they had relocated.
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Speaker 1: They owed about five grand in December rent and then
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Speaker 1: they owed money elsewhere. They had sold their home back
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Speaker 1: home in Colchester in twenty seventeen for about three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. What happened to that money? Now
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Speaker 1: we know. Celebration is about an eleven square mile quote
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Speaker 1: master plan a PUD a plan unit development community right
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Speaker 1: beside Walt Disney Resort. They're about seven thousand or so
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Speaker 1: people that live there, and it's divided into very distinct
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Speaker 1: villages of sorts, but very high scale gated community. A
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Speaker 1: great place to raise your children? Lee Egan question, do
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Speaker 1: you Lee Egan joining me Crime online dot com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: Why wasn't it reported the children were not in school,
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Speaker 1: They were being homeschooled by the mother, So the mom
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Speaker 1: was homeschooling. Plus it was Thanksgiving and Christmas vacation, so
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Speaker 1: a lot of children, including my own, were out during
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Speaker 1: that time, so there are little playmates. Probably did not
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Speaker 1: even notice something was wrong. Stephen Lampley he detective author
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Speaker 1: of Outside Your Door. You can find him at Stephen
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Speaker 1: Lampley dot com. Steve, how often have you ever seen
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Speaker 1: an entire family just go missing? You hear of a
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Speaker 1: mom or a dad or a child going missing, but
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Speaker 1: the whole family, and it very rarely happens. And in
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Speaker 1: the incident incidents where it does happen, usually not all
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Speaker 1: the time, but usually you're centered around a domestic situation
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Speaker 1: and the family knows, so it's not alarightening. But whenever
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Speaker 1: you have in the min my experience, whenever you have
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Speaker 1: a whole family that disappears and nobody knows anything, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't look good. Bacti Leagan. The Toad family owns a
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Speaker 1: business in Colchester, Connecticut, and I've been commuting back and
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Speaker 1: forth to Celebration, Florida for how long and what kind
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Speaker 1: of business was it? The dad ownedly he owned a
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Speaker 1: physical therapy business. He was a physical therapist, and he
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Speaker 1: himself is the one that traveled back and forth from
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Speaker 1: Florida to Connecticut. I believe he was working during the
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Speaker 1: week at the physical therapy business, and on the weekends
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Speaker 1: and holidays he would spend in Florida with his family.
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Speaker 1: Take a listener our friends at w FSB I Witness News.
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Speaker 1: This is Curly mccraze. Tony Todd. He ran this business
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Speaker 1: here in town, so he's well known in this community
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Speaker 1: because he operated the family Physical Therapy. But we spoke
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Speaker 1: with the manager yesterday and she says she hasn't seen
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Speaker 1: him in weeks. No one has heard from the Todd
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Speaker 1: family since last Monday. Relatives created a Facebook group dedicated
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Speaker 1: to finding Tony Todd. We've blurred out his wife and
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Speaker 1: three children. In a post, his sister pleaded, Tony, if
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Speaker 1: you happen to come across this, please let us know
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Speaker 1: that you guys are okay. Yesterday, police in Celebration, Florida
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Speaker 1: investigated a death at a home the family owned since
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five. It's terrible, definitely, it's terrible. You
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Speaker 1: can't imagine that, you just could be happening costs on
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Speaker 1: the corner, you know, beside you. You can't imagine that.
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Speaker 1: And thus begins they saga of what has happened to
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Speaker 1: the family. We first learned there is one body in
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Speaker 1: the area of their celebration home to Lee Egan, investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Crime online dot com, how did police initially find
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Speaker 1: the body? Well, the first time they went out there
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Speaker 1: was for a welfare check. They returned on January ninth
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Speaker 1: to serve a warrant, and at that time they notice something.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was like a smell or something unusual.
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Speaker 1: M Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us out of Beverly
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Speaker 1: Yields at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, why
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Speaker 1: is it people would rather die than go through life
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Speaker 1: without their money? You know, Nancy, that is such a
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Speaker 1: good question. Do you go that forty four percent of
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Speaker 1: all crimes are related to property or money in some way,
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Speaker 1: either fear of losing it, not having enough, taking it
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Speaker 1: from other people, envying it it, stealing it, money is
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Speaker 1: really at the root of so many bad happenings in
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Speaker 1: our society. Obviously, not that money is bad, but all
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Speaker 1: the meanings attached to it. And when I hear that,
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Speaker 1: you know, there was these fiction notices on the door.
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Speaker 1: The license wasn't renewed, I began to think, you know
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Speaker 1: it did. Was there some foul play that befell this
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Speaker 1: family because they didn't have money? Or in some way
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Speaker 1: were they preparing to die? And were they stopping paying
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Speaker 1: the rent? Were they not renewing their license? Was there
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Speaker 1: some kind of a lead up phase to this demise
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Speaker 1: that befell them? In other words, they were preparing to
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Speaker 1: not be on this earth any longer. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure you know which way it is with this family,
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Speaker 1: Lee Egan, Crime Online dot Com and Destigative Reporter. You
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Speaker 1: stated that they sheriff's had gone by for a will
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Speaker 1: or check when family back coming Connecticut could not find
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Speaker 1: the Tote family nothing. They couldn't find anything, all right,
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Speaker 1: So they go back, you said, as I recall Lee,
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Speaker 1: to affect a warrant. What was the warrant? They went back.
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Speaker 1: That's when they smelled d Coomp through the front door.
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Speaker 1: The warrant was for an investigation going on. Federal investigators
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Speaker 1: were investigating the father for Medicare and other private insurance fraud.
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Speaker 1: He was allegedly billing these insurance companies for visits that
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Speaker 1: never happened. Like some families would come maybe once or
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Speaker 1: twice a week to his practice, but he would say
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Speaker 1: they were there five times a week. He was doing
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Speaker 1: this with many, many, many patients, and the money had
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Speaker 1: wrecked up to the point where they were serving a
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Speaker 1: warrant for his arrest for that. You know, Daryl Cohen,
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Speaker 1: as I always say, when you look out your kitchen
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Speaker 1: window you see the fans picking through your trash, you
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. On January thirteen, twenty twenty, Ossila County Sherif's
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Speaker 1: Deputies responded to two thousand and two reserved places in
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Speaker 1: celebration to assist federal agents of the Department of Health
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Speaker 1: and Human Services and serving the federal arrest larrant for
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Speaker 1: Anthony Toad Anthony Toast date of birth in September twenty ninth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. Deputes made contact with Anthony and the
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Speaker 1: home along with federal agents, and he was immediately detained.
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Speaker 1: A safety check of the home was conducted where deputy's
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Speaker 1: discovered for deceased individuals inside. The home was immediately secured
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Speaker 1: and a search warrant was obtained by architectives. Detectives and
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Speaker 1: forensic investigators began their investigation and crime scene processing. The
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Speaker 1: Medical Examiner's office also responded to the scene and as
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Speaker 1: an autoxy was done the following day. The reports of
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Speaker 1: the autopsy determined that the cause of death of the
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Speaker 1: four proceedings inside the home to be cast. So this
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Speaker 1: is not some suicide pact. There were four dead bodies
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Speaker 1: in that home. Lee Agan, investigative reporter crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: Who were the bodies whose bodies were found inside the
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Speaker 1: Disney condo home? Well, Nancy, what we're learning is a
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Speaker 1: suspect was living in his in the rented Celebration, Florida
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Speaker 1: home with his deceased family, Megan to the mother, their
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Speaker 1: three children Alec thirteen, Tyler eleven, and little Zoe was four,
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Speaker 1: and the family dog, Breezy, for at least a week.
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Speaker 1: It could be longer, but we know for sure at
22:03
Speaker 1: least a week. During that time, his electricity was shut off,
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Speaker 1: no hot water, and when he was walking out of
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Speaker 1: the home in handcuffs. When police arrested him. A local
22:13
Speaker 1: reporter with Spectrum News said that they could smell a
22:16
Speaker 1: strong odor coming from him. WHOA okay, so he killed
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Speaker 1: the dog too? Yes, okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall's psychoanles, we
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Speaker 1: know this guy's a hundred thousand dollars in debt minimum
22:28
Speaker 1: minimum plus the fans are about three inches up his
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Speaker 1: rear end for false claims. Hold hold on, Bethany, Daryl,
22:36
Speaker 1: explain how that works. I recall what help there was?
22:40
Speaker 1: Somebody rear ended me all my way to the courthouse.
22:43
Speaker 1: I might add Daryl for a court for a court calendar,
22:47
Speaker 1: and you know I just got their name in Van
22:49
Speaker 1: Moose because I didn't want to be late to court,
22:51
Speaker 1: do you know? And may I call the police after that?
22:54
Speaker 1: Do you know? The moment I got home that night,
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Speaker 1: my thing was ringing? Picked it up. It was a runner, Daryl,
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Speaker 1: the guy I wouldn't identify himself, and he wanted to
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Speaker 1: send me to a doctor. Okay, how did that happen?
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Speaker 1: Darryl Cohen? Now explain to me how doctors and rehabs
23:12
Speaker 1: sometimes pad their expenses. Explain how it works. In a nutshell,
23:18
Speaker 1: Daryl in a nutshell. They put down that they have
23:22
Speaker 1: given you this type of therapy and that type of
23:24
Speaker 1: therapy and this type oftherapy. What in fact, you have
23:27
Speaker 1: just been there and had one thing done to you.
23:30
Speaker 1: You may have had a heat pack, you may have
23:32
Speaker 1: had some sort of stretching exercise. But they put down
23:37
Speaker 1: that they've done all of this stuff because the more
23:39
Speaker 1: they've done, the more money they're going to make. And
23:43
Speaker 1: when you have your settlement or if you have to
23:45
Speaker 1: follow lawsuit, there's more money for you there because of
23:48
Speaker 1: all the money you've expended. So that's how it works.
23:51
Speaker 1: Back to Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us out of Beverly Hills,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, I want to focus on, just for a moment,
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Speaker 1: shooting your dog. Do you remember an ancient agent when
24:04
Speaker 1: the pharaohs would be buried and their wives you would
24:06
Speaker 1: find all their pets entombed. Well, what is that about, Nancy.
24:10
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I mean, in terms of
24:12
Speaker 1: ancient Egypt, they wanted their pets to go with them
24:15
Speaker 1: into the afterlife. But this is a very different situation. Obviously,
24:20
Speaker 1: the Feds were closing in on the father in this family, Nancy,
24:25
Speaker 1: you do not want to mess with Medicare. You go
24:27
Speaker 1: to jail for a long long time when you defraud
24:30
Speaker 1: the government. I had this huge chiropractic practice next to
24:33
Speaker 1: my office in Beverly Hills, patients coming in and out
24:36
Speaker 1: all the time, blinding down the halls. I kept wondering
24:39
Speaker 1: why they had so many patients. It was like a mill.
24:41
Speaker 1: One day I came to work, the whole office was
24:44
Speaker 1: shuttered up, no patients, nothing there. I've read in the
24:47
Speaker 1: paper the next day that the chiropractors had been over
24:49
Speaker 1: billing Medicare and they all went to jail, and the
24:52
Speaker 1: government pursues. The Feds pursue these cases for months before
24:57
Speaker 1: they finally ensue an arrest warrant. And they are serious.
25:01
Speaker 1: So the Toad family must have already known about this.
25:06
Speaker 1: And in terms of killing the dog, my sense is
25:10
Speaker 1: that he knew he was going to go to jail.
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Speaker 1: He stopped paying for things, he stopped paying his mortgage,
25:16
Speaker 1: he didn't renew his license. He knew that it was
25:19
Speaker 1: all going downhill from there, and he simply did not
25:22
Speaker 1: want his family to be free. He didn't want to
25:25
Speaker 1: be separated from them. He did not want them to
25:27
Speaker 1: have a free life while he was in jail. He's
25:29
Speaker 1: probably personality disordered, jealous, possessive, wanted them all to himself,
25:35
Speaker 1: and he'd rather them be dead than be parted from them.
25:38
Speaker 1: And it's sick and it's twisted, but I think that's
25:40
Speaker 1: what happened. What an act of hatred to murder your
25:44
Speaker 1: wife and your three children. I keep just looking at
25:47
Speaker 1: this photo of the whole family in matching pejas or outfits,
25:54
Speaker 1: and the dog. It just looks like everybody's dream to
25:58
Speaker 1: have three beautiful chill aldren and the dog and the home.
26:02
Speaker 1: But we know Anthony Tote was under pressure from creditors, landlords,
26:08
Speaker 1: medicaid investigators, and even federal agents. And if I've said
26:12
Speaker 1: at once, I've said it a million times, do not
26:15
Speaker 1: mess with the Feds, and I'm talking about the irs.
26:22
Speaker 1: They will get you if it is the last thing
26:26
Speaker 1: they do, Isn't it right? Daryl Cohen? That capone al capone.
26:31
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people he murdered, and he
26:33
Speaker 1: kept getting not guilty, not guilty, hung jury, hung jury,
26:37
Speaker 1: until finally the taxman got him and he went down.
26:41
Speaker 1: Am I rewriting history here? Isn't that what happened to.
26:44
Speaker 1: If you're a rewriting history, you're rewriting it with me. Absolutely.
26:47
Speaker 1: They tried to get him on every possible, every conceivable murder,
26:52
Speaker 1: but it wasn't to be. But the United States government
26:55
Speaker 1: was able to arrest him, and he was convicted and
26:59
Speaker 1: served time for income tax fraud, income tax evasion. You're
27:03
Speaker 1: absolutely right, dang, and I know it. Nobody wants that
27:07
Speaker 1: tax bill, but pay it timpum fifty dollars for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: Do not mess with the fits when they are investigating you.
27:16
Speaker 1: All right, now, this is what I know. You can
27:18
Speaker 1: look at Facebook all you want to listen to all
27:21
Speaker 1: the neighbors describing their family, their children, the beautiful wife.
27:26
Speaker 1: But public records tell another story to feeling heat from
27:30
Speaker 1: his landlords, creditors, medicaid investigators, and even the Attorney General
27:35
Speaker 1: of Connecticut. He was a Colchester physical therapist. And this
27:40
Speaker 1: is what we know. According to police sources, after he
27:44
Speaker 1: brutally murders his family, he takes a handful of Benadrill pills.
27:49
Speaker 1: Oh please stop Benadrill? Are you serious, doctor Michelle Dupree?
27:56
Speaker 1: I mean, how much Benagrill do you have to take
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Speaker 1: to die, Nancy, you would be an awfully lot ben
28:02
Speaker 1: and drul really is as you know, it's not the
28:05
Speaker 1: kind of setative or CNS depressent that is going to
28:09
Speaker 1: cause a horrible outcome. You will just most likely get sick.
28:12
Speaker 1: This is also what we have learned searching for a motive,
28:15
Speaker 1: which of course the state does not have to prove.
28:18
Speaker 1: Public records and court affidavit's show Tot's private life was
28:23
Speaker 1: a mess under investigation, exorbitant spending, unpaid bills, eviction notice.
28:32
Speaker 1: He operated that physical therapy practice listed as Performance Edge
28:36
Speaker 1: Sports LLLC, also known as Family Physical Therapy there in Colchester.
28:43
Speaker 1: He had another office in Westchester, another section of tim
28:48
Speaker 1: Now we know around Thanksgiving suddenly the Park Avenue office
28:50
Speaker 1: closed quickly and patients who are in the middle of
28:53
Speaker 1: treatment had to go to other therapists. We also know
28:56
Speaker 1: his physical therapy license expired September thirty and he did
29:02
Speaker 1: not renew it, probably because he was under investigation and
29:05
Speaker 1: he thought he wouldn't get renewed. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
29:25
Speaker 1: The Osceola County Sheriff's Office says four people were found
29:27
Speaker 1: dead inside this home. I don't know what happens. I
29:30
Speaker 1: want answers, but I don't know we'll ever got the answers.
29:32
Speaker 1: Michelle and other neighbors confirmed this is a photo of
29:35
Speaker 1: the father, Tony Todd. Marcelo Rodriguez took the photo when
29:38
Speaker 1: deputies put Tony Tott in handcuffs yesterday morning. The father
29:42
Speaker 1: was always friendly in waiting. The Sheriff's office will not
29:44
Speaker 1: say if he's under arrest or being questioned in the
29:47
Speaker 1: deaths of the four people inside. I wasn't being surprised
29:49
Speaker 1: to us right now because we can't even manage that,
29:52
Speaker 1: you know, because pretty much is our happy family. Everybody's
29:56
Speaker 1: so happy. Court records show that Tony and Meghan Tott
29:59
Speaker 1: were evicted from this home for not paying rent. You
30:01
Speaker 1: are hearing our friends at wt in h News eight.
30:04
Speaker 1: That's Laurence Seabrook. What we're learning is that Taught was heavily,
30:10
Speaker 1: heavily in debt, up to five hundred thousand dollars in
30:15
Speaker 1: civil judgments already obtained out to you. Lee Egan, Crime
30:20
Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. What was he spending all
30:23
Speaker 1: that money on? That's what everyone wants to know. He
30:26
Speaker 1: bought a lot of money from lenders for what. We're
30:28
Speaker 1: not sure, but a lot of that money was being
30:31
Speaker 1: paid back to him, but he didn't have that money
30:33
Speaker 1: coming in, so it just became a vicious cycle. So
30:36
Speaker 1: how does that work? You build up dead and then
30:39
Speaker 1: you take out short term loans to pay it off
30:42
Speaker 1: or at least pay the bare minimum. To doctor Michelle Dupre,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina Medical Examiner, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide,
30:50
Speaker 1: Doctor Dupree, this clearly is not a suicide pact. So
30:56
Speaker 1: how can you look at the bodies and determine they
30:59
Speaker 1: were murder? They did not commit suicide, decide to all
31:03
Speaker 1: go to heaven together? Well, Nancy, that is exactly what
31:06
Speaker 1: we do. Is we look at the body, We look
31:07
Speaker 1: at what types of injuries there are. We look to
31:11
Speaker 1: see if is it possible that that person could have
31:13
Speaker 1: done this to themselves and if the answer is no,
31:16
Speaker 1: then it is obviously not a suicide. So it's going
31:19
Speaker 1: to depend on the injuries and how they were done. Well,
31:22
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? I mean, I know
31:26
Speaker 1: that makes sense in your mind, but to all of
31:28
Speaker 1: us who don't have a medical degree, how can you
31:30
Speaker 1: look at the injuries and determine this was not a suicide. Well,
31:34
Speaker 1: for example, we can if there was some type of
31:39
Speaker 1: foul play like a gunshot wound or sharp forced injuries,
31:42
Speaker 1: which we don't have the information on that right now.
31:44
Speaker 1: So we may look at some type of poisoning. Well,
31:47
Speaker 1: if someone took an overdose of pills accidentally, then that's
31:51
Speaker 1: going to be a different amount of substance in their body.
31:55
Speaker 1: Can the children actually do that themselves? We will look
31:58
Speaker 1: at again if there are any injuries, will look at
32:01
Speaker 1: what they are and can that person do it to
32:02
Speaker 1: themselves or does someone else have to do it to
32:05
Speaker 1: take a listen to it. The Osceola County share for
32:07
Speaker 1: US Gibson as decay. We're still being a positive identification
32:10
Speaker 1: of the four deceased persons recovered in the home by
32:14
Speaker 1: the Medical Examder's office, but based on our investigation and
32:18
Speaker 1: the suspect's statements, we strongly believe that they are that
32:22
Speaker 1: of Megan, Alec, Tyler, and Zoe based on the initial
32:26
Speaker 1: investigation to include the suspect's statements, The deaths have been
32:30
Speaker 1: determined to have occurred sometime towards the end of December.
32:36
Speaker 1: Throughout the course of this investigation, our agency has been
32:39
Speaker 1: in close communication with the family of the victims, and
32:42
Speaker 1: we've also worked very closely, as you can imagine, with
32:44
Speaker 1: the Medical Examder's office as well as our State attorney's office.
32:48
Speaker 1: This investigation is ongoing and we will continue to work
32:51
Speaker 1: together all evidence as it presents itself for those of
32:54
Speaker 1: you just joining us. In Kassimmee, Florida, near Disney, a
32:58
Speaker 1: physical therapist confesses to killing his wife, their three young children,
33:04
Speaker 1: and even the family dog in an upscale Florida suburb
33:09
Speaker 1: right there in the shadows of Walt Disney World, and
33:11
Speaker 1: leaving their bodies there for days and days. The sheriff,
33:16
Speaker 1: Russey Gibson, said that Anthony Tote faces homicide charges in
33:21
Speaker 1: all three human murders. I still don't understand how he
33:27
Speaker 1: blew through three hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the
33:30
Speaker 1: cell of his home back in Connecticut. How people rack
33:35
Speaker 1: up those types of bills? How do they do it?
33:38
Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall. I mean, I've heard of shopaholics that
33:41
Speaker 1: watch the Home Shopping Network all day long and have
33:44
Speaker 1: huge stacks of boxes at their door every day. They
33:47
Speaker 1: hardly ever opened them. What is it an element? Is
33:51
Speaker 1: it an illnest like alcoholism, well, dancy. When I thought
33:55
Speaker 1: about all the depth that he's racked up, it made
33:58
Speaker 1: me think that this is a very impulse of man,
34:01
Speaker 1: and impulsivity might be the underlying factor in the homicide
34:05
Speaker 1: as well. You have to be really impulsive, compulsive, somebody
34:10
Speaker 1: who does not want to pay back debt. It speaks
34:12
Speaker 1: to somebody who's lacks a conscience, who lives in the moment,
34:17
Speaker 1: does not have big picture or cause and effect thinking.
34:20
Speaker 1: And at the very heart of this too is the
34:23
Speaker 1: same psychology as domestic homicide and domestic abuse. On some level,
34:28
Speaker 1: he did not want his family on this planet. He
34:30
Speaker 1: felt that they were negatively affecting his well being, that
34:34
Speaker 1: they were harming him in some way. I mean, we're
34:36
Speaker 1: seeing this idyllic community, we're seeing this physical therapist, but
34:40
Speaker 1: the individual, the perpetrator himself, must have been very personality disordered, jealous, impulsive, angry, resentful,
34:50
Speaker 1: not wanting his family around. I don't think he murdered
34:54
Speaker 1: because of money. I think he murdered because he's homicidal
34:57
Speaker 1: and hatred and hateful. Hey, I hope you're sitting down,
35:01
Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, But this guy, Anthony Tote the Colchester business
35:05
Speaker 1: owner who relocates his family to Disney. When he was
35:10
Speaker 1: just four years old, was a witness to his mother's
35:14
Speaker 1: attempted murder in Pennsylvania. His dad was convicted and served
35:21
Speaker 1: hard jail time. Now, this is what we understand happened
35:26
Speaker 1: that March. He as a little boy, was asleep in
35:29
Speaker 1: the family home Pennsylvania, wakes up to his mom screaming.
35:34
Speaker 1: He runs out in the hallway and he sees a
35:37
Speaker 1: guy wrestling with mom, and another guy picks him up
35:42
Speaker 1: and brings him back to his bed. The mother, Loretta,
35:46
Speaker 1: had been shot in the face while sleeping in the
35:50
Speaker 1: family home. She survived, but the bullet destroyed her left
35:56
Speaker 1: eye and remained lodged in her skull. She only remembered
36:02
Speaker 1: taking her children to bed. The dad, the now dad,
36:07
Speaker 1: Anthony Toat, and his sister in bad. She goes to
36:11
Speaker 1: bad and next thing you know, she's shot in the head.
36:14
Speaker 1: And you know he, Anthony Toat, remembers this. What do
36:19
Speaker 1: you make of that, Bethany Marshall. We know some families
36:22
Speaker 1: have a suicide legacy. You can see suicide being passed
36:25
Speaker 1: down intergenerationally. Other families have a homicide legacy that homicide
36:31
Speaker 1: seems acceptable, It seems like a good way to solve problems.
36:35
Speaker 1: It's not just that he witnessed the attempted homicide of
36:40
Speaker 1: his mother, but somehow killing another person to resolve your
36:45
Speaker 1: interpersonal conflicts is a part of the psychology of the
36:49
Speaker 1: father who raised him, right, it's in that attachment system. Violence, hatred,
36:55
Speaker 1: and snuffing out another person's rights are what you do
36:59
Speaker 1: when you have in a personal conflict. So this is
37:02
Speaker 1: this man's legacy, This is what he learned, this is
37:05
Speaker 1: what he knows, and this is what he resorted to
37:07
Speaker 1: when his life started unraveling. We wait as just as
37:10
Speaker 1: unfolds Nancy Gray's crime's tory signing off Goodbye friend,