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Patriots Unfiltered 9/18: NFL Week 3 Picks, Steelers Preview, Garrett Bradbury Interview & Thursday Practice Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 1: CARDI b expecting big news.
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  Speaker 2: I hope, I hope he agrees with her assessment.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we'll see. I'll get in there with
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  Speaker 1: the mic and move. We'll get the we'll get the answers.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get the answers we need.
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  Speaker 4: People has done the impossible, He's silenced Perillo.
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  Speaker 5: I see Drake May having yet another best career game
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  Speaker 5: with our King Gdora.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what King Godora. It's a godzilla thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's because they have a three headed monster. Okay, good
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  Speaker 6: good reference, Okay, good like.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we should be going into games thinking
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  Speaker 4: the other team has the coaching edge anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Well, tell me how good the Patriots offense is going
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  Speaker 5: to be, and then I'll tell you how many times
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  Speaker 5: they're going to sack them me.
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  Speaker 6: Famous people are offered in volatile relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's entertainers athletes, not like Drew and Mora.
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  Speaker 4: What I'm saying you shouldn't be about you shouldn't just
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  Speaker 4: pay for your accent. I don't think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to America.
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  Speaker 5: I think Parcels respected the media, especially the older guys,
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  Speaker 5: like they're kind of his kind of guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just picturing the old newspaper guys smoking cigarettes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of that. Oh and then
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  Speaker 2: when did it?
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  Speaker 7: Evan go maybe felt like he emptied the clip of
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  Speaker 7: football knowledge today after Catch twenty two and he had
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  Speaker 7: nothing more to say.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that Evan's ever emptied the clip.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 5: It is Thursday here at Gillette Stadium, and we're getting
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  Speaker 5: closer to a big weekend here at Gillette Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start with Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: We've got Bill Parcells and Julian Edelman coming in to
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  Speaker 5: be inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame. No Socks
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  Speaker 5: and myself are going to be sitting down with Bill
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  Speaker 5: Parcells to do a patch from the past episode on
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  Speaker 5: the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So I can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be intimidated, not gonna lie at.
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  Speaker 2: This point, I'm not back then, I would.
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  Speaker 4: Be yeah, you know him though you had a relationship
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  Speaker 4: with him, because I felt that way, I am not
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  Speaker 4: going to.
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  Speaker 6: Be able to to join and uh, I can make
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  Speaker 6: it about it. No, I was telling Mike.
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  Speaker 4: I legitimately I would be yeah, on a little on
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  Speaker 4: edge talking to a guy like.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, I think I can take him, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like physically, like if it came to that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't. But anyway, no, socks would be.
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  Speaker 1: Uh he caught in the middle of that one. That
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  Speaker 1: would be something.
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  Speaker 2: And so that'll be fun. That'll be fun.
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  Speaker 5: And then of course on Sunday we've got the big
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  Speaker 5: game one o'clock Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: H Up to this point, I don't really even know
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  Speaker 2: what my pick is going to be. No, really, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still debating.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't know what his pick is going to be.
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  Speaker 6: I know what his pick is.
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  Speaker 9: Right down. We'll see if you're right tortured.
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  Speaker 2: So so.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we will be doing the picks later. It's Alex,
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  Speaker 5: it's Deuce, it's me, it's Paul, it's Evan, it's Alex
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  Speaker 5: and Matt. Back in the booth getting the show done.
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  Speaker 5: So what do we what do we know?
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  Speaker 2: What do we know?
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  Speaker 5: What's changed since yesterday at two o'clock when we ended.
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  Speaker 10: A show Christian Gonzales was that practice?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, but we knew that at two o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: But let him go, let him go.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to change. We didn't see him.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't actually have evidence of physical eyes on him practice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think we did.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't do a lot.
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  Speaker 11: There is no way you could have seen him before
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  Speaker 11: two o'clock at practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: That's when you guys were up there, right, we were, no.
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  Speaker 10: We were out there after the show ended.
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  Speaker 2: Evan was for his escort when.
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  Speaker 6: I guess I made the mistake of listening to the
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  Speaker 6: head coach tell me he was going.
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  Speaker 2: To be at practice anyway.
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  Speaker 4: But that was when Fred said after the press coming,
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  Speaker 4: it's no real news there, right, He just said that
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  Speaker 4: Consunds is gonna practice, It's gonna do some stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was listed as limited.
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  Speaker 11: He was listed as limited officially. We saw just individuals
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  Speaker 11: and we saw him go through a couple of drills,
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  Speaker 11: but nothing, nothing full speed or crazy at all. So
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  Speaker 11: we did see him in Carlon Davis back together though,
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  Speaker 11: doing the jugs, machines and stuff like.
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  Speaker 10: They were very very.
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  Speaker 11: But I wouldn't necessarily glean much in terms of how,
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  Speaker 11: I know the question how is he moving?
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  Speaker 10: And like all, we didn't see him moving at full speed?
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  Speaker 5: Now, there were portions that you didn't see at practice, right, yes,
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  Speaker 5: So I mean do we know if he participated in those?
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  Speaker 5: I mean it said limited, but who knows what that
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  Speaker 5: really means.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, there's no way of us really knowing when exactly
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  Speaker 11: they cut off his participation. So no, but we were
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  Speaker 11: out there through individual periods and he was doing some
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  Speaker 11: of the cornerback drills, you know, the different things that
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  Speaker 11: they do at the beginning of practice there to warm
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  Speaker 11: up and things like that. And you know, from what
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  Speaker 11: we saw, like obviously again not full speed, he was
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  Speaker 11: moving pretty well. So I think that there's some optimism that,
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  Speaker 11: you know, he's headed back into the right direction here
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  Speaker 11: with everything.
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  Speaker 5: What percentage would you guys put him, you know, participating
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  Speaker 5: in the game, Uh, ten percent?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know, maybe maybe a little more forty Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: the most optimistic that never happens.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe I just like to pleasantly
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  Speaker 7: be surprised if he were able to go, but he.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't want to be heard Again.
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  Speaker 11: I don't wonder at what point you could only do
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  Speaker 11: so much in practice, and he hasn't had a preseason,
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  Speaker 11: he hasn't had a training camp really, so in order
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  Speaker 11: to get him live reps, the only way you're going
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  Speaker 11: to be able to do that is in the game.
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  Speaker 11: So even if you just put him out there on
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  Speaker 11: third downs or something like that, just to get his
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  Speaker 11: feet wet and get him back up, you know, into
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  Speaker 11: a game and into live reps. I just wonder if
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  Speaker 11: maybe that is the path that they choose, and so
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  Speaker 11: they're not going to throw him out there and have
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  Speaker 11: him play one hundred percent of the snaps on Sunday,
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  Speaker 11: But can you throw him out there and you know,
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  Speaker 11: maybe he plays twenty snaps or he's in the package,
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  Speaker 11: or he's on third down or whatever the case may be,
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  Speaker 11: just to get him back into a game.
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  Speaker 7: Let's get into the man zone thing a little bit
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  Speaker 7: we talked about on the preview. You know, I think
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  Speaker 7: Rogers facing a high amount of man coverage, which you
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  Speaker 7: know makes sense. He understands where the holes in the
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  Speaker 7: zones are and the Patriots have struggled and they didn't
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  Speaker 7: play a lot of man defense last week, but the
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  Speaker 7: first week they did. And you know, to have Gonzalez
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  Speaker 7: back and enable you to play man and you know,
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  Speaker 7: maybe allow Rogers to hold the ball a little bit
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  Speaker 7: longer with good coverage, that's going to allow you, you know,
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  Speaker 7: your four man pass rush to get home. So I
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  Speaker 7: think it's a big game about that those man zone
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  Speaker 7: splits on both sides of the ball and on and
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  Speaker 7: blitzing like you know, I think that you can't really
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  Speaker 7: blitz aeron Rodgers. He's going to know, so the front
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  Speaker 7: four have to get pressure and on the other side
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  Speaker 7: of the ball. Drake's seen a ton of zone and
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  Speaker 7: Pittsburgh plays a lot of man, So I think this
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  Speaker 7: is gonna be a different game for Drake.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to you know.
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  Speaker 7: We talked about Pop Douglass maybe coming back in the
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  Speaker 7: mix with his ability to get open, maybe Kyle Williams.
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  Speaker 7: But they're gonna blitz and they're gonna play man, and
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  Speaker 7: so I think there's gonna be a lot on Drake
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  Speaker 7: getting the protection set.
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  Speaker 1: Knowing where to go with the ball. I think it
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  Speaker 1: could be, you know, a chance for Drake to.
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  Speaker 7: You know, Josh seemed to have a pretty good beat
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  Speaker 7: on this offense or this defense.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 7: But at the same time, I think Drake's there's gonna
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  Speaker 7: be a little bit more on Drake's plate. Can he
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  Speaker 7: execute what Josh wants to do against these guys?
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  Speaker 12: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna be paying special attention to
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  Speaker 2: t J Watt the for him of double teams? And
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  Speaker 2: will they tell Drake, hey, don't worry about him, we
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  Speaker 2: got him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope.
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  Speaker 7: So, you know, it seems like a matter of time
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  Speaker 7: before they get right, and you know, they have too
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  Speaker 7: much talent I think to be one of the worst
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  Speaker 7: defenses in football.
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  Speaker 1: So don't let them get right against you.
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  Speaker 7: And again, I think a lot is on Drake being
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  Speaker 7: able to pross us what they're doing, where they're going
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  Speaker 7: to be blitzing from you know, TJ.
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  Speaker 1: Wats just such a simple piece of it.
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  Speaker 7: You know that he doesn't need to blitz, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and he can just win by himself.
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  Speaker 1: So don't let them get going this week.
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  Speaker 7: Don't let them start to have the kind of game
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  Speaker 7: where they get some momentum and they start to, you know,
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  Speaker 7: feel themselves a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: So back to Fred's question about what you know if
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  Speaker 4: you found out it, you know, after two o'clock, I
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  Speaker 4: would go on to that injury stuff both ways. First,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the Patriots and TJ. Watt
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned did you happen to notice like Morgan Moses
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  Speaker 4: and does he look the same as he did last week?
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  Speaker 6: You know moving? I know he's still on the injury
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  Speaker 6: report with a foot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was actually slimping pretty good after the game.
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  Speaker 11: I was actually pretty shocked that he was out there
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  Speaker 11: at all yesterday because he wasn't last week. You didn't
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  Speaker 11: practice on Wednesday last week, and then after the game,
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  Speaker 11: like you said, I think Doug Ki to the Herald
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  Speaker 11: said that he saw him in a boot. I didn't
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  Speaker 11: see that, but maybe Doug did. And you know, then
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  Speaker 11: to have him see him get out there already on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 11: I was pretty surprised that he was even participate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something to monitor if he you know how
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you're not at one hundred percent, you
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  Speaker 4: know now, but how much help.
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  Speaker 6: Does he need? Is he able to go?
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  Speaker 4: Because that could put the third rookie in the offensive
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  Speaker 4: on the offensive line in Marcus Bryant, and I agree
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  Speaker 4: with Mike TJ. Watt's too good of a player to
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  Speaker 4: be held down. But on the good news injury wise
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  Speaker 4: is there were a couple of members of that secondary
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  Speaker 4: for Pittsburgh that have been out and they both didn't
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  Speaker 4: participate yesterday. And Joey Porter their best corner and Deshaun
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  Speaker 4: Elliott their best safety, they didn't They didn't participate in
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  Speaker 4: practice on Wednesday. That's usually a sign that they're probably
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  Speaker 4: not going to be available for the game. We'll see
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  Speaker 4: if it updates today and they get out there and
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  Speaker 4: they're limited today. Tomlin, I guess on Monday said he
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  Speaker 4: gave them both a chance. They haven't played yet, so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they got I think Elliott got hurt in the open
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  Speaker 4: or I'm not sure if Porter got hurt in the preseason,
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  Speaker 4: were in the opener, but they didn't play last week,
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  Speaker 4: neither one. That could be a huge, huge difference when
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  Speaker 4: you're missing you know, let's call it two fifths of
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  Speaker 4: your secondary. Let's say everybody plays five defensive backs, missing
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  Speaker 4: two starters out of you five, that that hurts you.
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  Speaker 6: To look at how much Gonzales has affected the Patriots.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's made them play Ramsey a lot more on
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  Speaker 11: the outside, and I think they envisioned when they traded
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  Speaker 11: for him. I think they wanted to play Ramsey in
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  Speaker 11: the slot, and.
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  Speaker 4: Even Slay has seen better days. He's a good player,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, he's seen better days.
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  Speaker 11: So I think they wanted it to be Joey Porter
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  Speaker 11: Junior on one side, Slay on the other, and Ramsey
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  Speaker 11: playing the star the nickel role, which he's an amazing
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  Speaker 11: ad He's really good at that, and then they've had
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  Speaker 11: to play him a little bit more on the outside.
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  Speaker 11: And last week actually against Seattle, he had a rough game.
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  Speaker 11: I know you had to pick, but gave up like
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  Speaker 11: one hundred and twenty five yards in coverage or something
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  Speaker 11: like that. So I don't think that Ramsey at this
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  Speaker 11: stage of his career is like a pure outside corner
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  Speaker 11: man to man anymore. So JSN Yeah, JSN and Cooper
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  Speaker 11: Cup So I think that they would ideally like to
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  Speaker 11: play Ramsey more in the slot, but they can't because
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  Speaker 11: Porter is not healthy. So it's that's sort of what
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  Speaker 11: has happened there. Alex Heisman is probably not going to
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  Speaker 11: play in this.
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  Speaker 6: He's definitely out.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, so that that's good news. As well for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 11: Herbig's not a slouch though. He's a good rusher, but
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  Speaker 11: he's not Alex Highsmith. So that's you know, they are
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  Speaker 11: a little bit dub they are.
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  Speaker 6: All right, well, yeah, it's five five starters.
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  Speaker 2: Still don't answer my question whether or not they're going
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  Speaker 2: to double team t J. Watt.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know what the game plan is.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think they'll be part of it?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there'll be times to do that. I
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  Speaker 7: think stick Connor Henry over there and make sure you
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  Speaker 7: get a chip on him. But I think Josh is
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  Speaker 7: clever at you know, it's not every single time we're
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  Speaker 7: going to have to chip him. We're running away from him.
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes maybe you're trying to trap him sometimes. Is you
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  Speaker 7: know a wide array of things I think they can
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  Speaker 7: do to prevent him from you know, just getting getting
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  Speaker 7: that first sack maybe in the first quarter and then
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  Speaker 7: feel like all right now starting to feel it here.
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  Speaker 1: I come like that's what you want to look out for.
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  Speaker 7: But it's interesting with you know what Paul saying that,
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  Speaker 7: I think the two defensive approaches mirror each other pretty well.
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  Speaker 7: I think both sides are going to want to play man,
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  Speaker 7: both sides are probably not going to have exactly the
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  Speaker 7: right personnel that they'd like to do that, So who
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  Speaker 7: can hold up better? And I mean I think, as
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  Speaker 7: Evan has been saying, maybe like the Patriots matchup with
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  Speaker 7: having the size of Carlton Davis to put on on
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  Speaker 7: dk intelect spots and you know, you're not too afraid
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  Speaker 7: of Calvin Austin with Marcus Jones. So you know, I
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  Speaker 7: still think Alex Austin, those guys they got they got
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  Speaker 7: to be a little better. I mean, Alex Austin got
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  Speaker 7: got picked on himself last week, so you know second
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  Speaker 7: late to some of those.
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  Speaker 1: Looked like he was about to have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: pass breakups.
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  Speaker 7: But secondary's got to be better. They've got to be
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  Speaker 7: more in sync. And you know it starts with the
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  Speaker 7: linebackers too. You know that communication has got to improve.
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  Speaker 7: And you hope with with with reps that their own
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  Speaker 7: defense gets a little bit more well dispersed.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny how things change.
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  Speaker 5: You know, during the off season, it was like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: how's the offense going to be and defense is going
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  Speaker 5: to be better, don't worry about the defense, And then
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  Speaker 5: we come out of this game, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 5: the offense is looking okay, what's gonna happen with the defense?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's like a yeah, And I would say that
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  Speaker 11: Rabel spent a lot of time with the offense in
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  Speaker 11: training camp and without Terrell Williams. Like I also wonder if,
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  Speaker 11: like maybe Rabel needs to spend more time in the
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  Speaker 11: defense meetings and make sure that they get that side
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  Speaker 11: of the ball buttoned up, because, uh, you know, you
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  Speaker 11: mentioned TJ. Watt. He doesn't have a sack, but it's
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  Speaker 11: TJ Watt. He's been disruptive, he's been, you know, a
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  Speaker 11: problem in the first couple of weeks of the season anyways.
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  Speaker 11: And you know, they've done a nice job with keeping
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  Speaker 11: the pressure rate down, uh without necessarily you know, always
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  Speaker 11: winning their blocks, which I think is a scheme thing.
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  Speaker 10: It's a McDaniel's thing. You know.
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  Speaker 11: Credit to Drake May a little bit for that as well.
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  Speaker 11: But right now they're they're ninth in the league in
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  Speaker 11: pressure rate allowed, which is which is good. They're twenty
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  Speaker 11: fifth in the league in pass blocking win rate. So
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  Speaker 11: there's like a discrepancy there of how are they so
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  Speaker 11: low in the league and win rate, but they're so high,
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  Speaker 11: you know, and on the good side with pressure rate,
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  Speaker 11: and to me, that is scheme.
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  Speaker 10: It's it's there.
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  Speaker 11: They know that the offensive line is not going to
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  Speaker 11: pass protect for three four seconds, so they're moving the
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  Speaker 11: pocket and they're getting the ball out and they're doing
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  Speaker 11: different things to try to help the offensive line along here,
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  Speaker 11: and it's paid dividends so far. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 11: Max Crosby made his plays in week one, but I
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  Speaker 11: don't feel like he took the game over.
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: And he was good, but he didn't dominate.
• 14:25
  Speaker 11: Right, And you know, last week, maybe they you know,
• 14:27
  Speaker 11: Jalen Phillips isn't Max Crosby er or TJ.
• 14:30
  Speaker 10: Watt, but he's not a slouch. You know, he's not
• 14:31
  Speaker 10: a bad player.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: They have good pass rushers and they need none of
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: the three of them really impacted the game, you know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: to a negative degree.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, every time.
• 14:42
  Speaker 11: In like third and long, when they they drop back past,
• 14:45
  Speaker 11: they are chipping a lot. They're the running backs of
• 14:48
  Speaker 11: the tight ends or are staying in for an extra
• 14:50
  Speaker 11: beat and and chipping the ends and trying to help
• 14:52
  Speaker 11: out Moses and Campbell in that way. So I think
• 14:55
  Speaker 11: that it's the overall approach to managing pass rush has
• 15:00
  Speaker 11: been pretty solid for the first couple of weeks. So
• 15:03
  Speaker 11: if you're going up against a guy like TJ. Watt,
• 15:05
  Speaker 11: I guess you have that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: Henderson had a couple hold calls in past blocking last week.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Is that just the speed of the game is different
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: than college.
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: I think you yeah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 11: I mean I had him with two sacks allowed in
• 15:19
  Speaker 11: a couple of holes, and then he also got called
• 15:21
  Speaker 11: for a hold on special teams. Although we're able kind
• 15:24
  Speaker 11: of explained that one away yesterday during his press conference.
• 15:27
  Speaker 11: But I don't know what it is because he was
• 15:30
  Speaker 11: great at it in college and it doesn't seem like
• 15:33
  Speaker 11: it would be a physical thing based off of what
• 15:36
  Speaker 11: he was doing in college. But we talked a little
• 15:38
  Speaker 11: bit about this the other day. You know the dual
• 15:41
  Speaker 11: read system that they run for the running backs, where
• 15:44
  Speaker 11: they're really reading off of two different players and having
• 15:46
  Speaker 11: to decipher post snap who they're going to block. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 11: when you have a complex system like that, then it
• 15:53
  Speaker 11: probably is mental where he's not entirely sure who his
• 15:56
  Speaker 11: guy is and then he's got to react on the
• 15:58
  Speaker 11: fly to who's blitzing and who's dropping. And the other
• 16:03
  Speaker 11: sack that he had, like hunter, Henry chipped the end
• 16:05
  Speaker 11: and then was releasing down the field and it was
• 16:08
  Speaker 11: a play action pass and Henderson just kind of ran
• 16:10
  Speaker 11: right by the guy and didn't adjust, you know, to
• 16:13
  Speaker 11: the assignment. So I think a lot of it is
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: mental right now.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, key on White, Any idea what the
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: illness is that's keeping him off the field.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: He's watching practice in street cloths yesterday, so I don't
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: know what that was.
• 16:29
  Speaker 12: But there's a bad respiratory thing going around, so you guys,
• 16:35
  Speaker 12: hold on.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: So he was watching practice and street clothes? Was he
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: with the other guys?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 16:43
  Speaker 11: He was he was like behind like because the reason.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: It's a contagious type of illness that would make sense.
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: I've only been in the locker.
• 16:56
  Speaker 10: If I knew what it was, I could say.
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: I don't know if he guys saw him any other days, but.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: If he was like in the mix with guys, then
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: obviously whatever the illnesses isn't contagious.
• 17:07
  Speaker 10: I yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what to speculate. I mean,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Don't I don't know, I don't want to, I don't know. Yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: is there something going on.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: We well, you know, I'm just trying to peel the.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: D I mean, if he was I don't know, it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think if he still wasn't around the team,
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: maybe I would think something was up to like it
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: seemed weird.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: If something was up and then he was just watching maybe,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's an interesting player, and you know, I
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: don't think everybody had a certain view of him coming
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: into the season, and it's kind of been disappointing.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: So I just I mean, it's different.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not common to miss games with an illness,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: let alone, you know, have it spill into a second week.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I have no idea what it is, though, but I
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: just I just think it's a little different.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, no question, all right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the hot Lie
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: podcasts at Patriots dot Com. Is the email address during halftime?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: You and Evan do sat down with Garrett Bradbury.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: We did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we got to sit down with him yesterday, a
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: little brief chat that was It was funn He was
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: just coming off the practice field. So I think we'll
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: play that at halftime. Play that. Yeah, yeah, nice.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Guy asked him, you know a little bit about I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: haven't asked some football questions.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: No, I asked just about being Minnesota, being the NFC North,
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: getting a close up look at Aaron Rodgers over the years,
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: and you know, clearly has a lot of respect for him.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And you know, I.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: Jokingly said it, but I mean right now, if you
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: go by the PFF numbers, he's.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: The number one pass blocking center in the league.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: So, you know, nice start for him.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: I don't know, again, I'm getting too much into those
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: stats at the early part of this, but he's been
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: really good. I think he got a lot of criticism,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: you know, during the summer of is he the guy
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: and are they you know, he was locked in a
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: competition right so, but played pretty well the first two weeks.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: We'll see if it continues. This week we challenge with
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: with that big monster. He's gonna be lining up across from.
• 19:02
  Speaker 11: I'm surprised that they haven't like tested him a whole
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: lot in the first two weeks of the season, and.
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: I would have thought they're down.
• 19:09
  Speaker 11: You put a pass rusher right over him and see
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: if he can pass protect and the Raiders and the
• 19:14
  Speaker 11: the Dolphins didn't really do that, which was kind of surprising.
• 19:17
  Speaker 11: But he's been sneakily good for the most part. I mean,
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: I thought the run game stuff was a little so
• 19:23
  Speaker 11: so in Week one, but last week was better. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 11: the pass blocking has been clean. Uh, you know, it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: been better than expected.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And the Dolphins had Steeler, who's a pretty good Yeah,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: but he was rushing on the guards a lot like
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: he was at all.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: I'm not trying to like say that brad Berry's been
• 19:39
  Speaker 11: you know, discredit anything that he's doing. I'm just I'm
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: just saying, like, it's not exactly like he's got Vince
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: will Fork over his nose and like he's got it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: You know, it hasn't right, It hasn't exactly been that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: But uh, you know, the one thing I would I
• 19:53
  Speaker 11: thought was cool that Bradberry said in our interview was
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: I was asking him about Mike rabels involvement with the
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: offensive and he said he's the most involved head coach
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: in the offensive line that he's ever had. And I
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: really felt like that just kind of stands out to
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: speaks to the importance of that position group to Rabel
• 20:14
  Speaker 11: and that you know, tone setting like is kind of
• 20:17
  Speaker 11: what he was talking about in the identity of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: team and all that kind of stuff. And I guess Rabel,
• 20:22
  Speaker 11: I don't want to give away the whole thing, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: Rabel early on right said, got into the offensive line
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: room and said, like this is like the the intensity
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: and like the message that we want to send and
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: the type of football that we want to play. Like
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: starts in this room like these you are the guys
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: that are going to set the tone, the physical tone,
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: for the rest of the football team. And so it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: clearly very important to Vrabel that this offensive line gets
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: sorted out and that they fix what's been a very
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: bad offensive line for the last couple of years. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: the stats, at least through two weeks have really bared
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: that out. They've been much better up front on the
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: offensive line for the first couple of weeks.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, what quick click story. I had to like hearing
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: him say that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: I flashed back to you know, when I played high
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: school football and I played tackle at this size.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: He's always got to make it about him, Yeah, what
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: does this have to.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Do with your It's it's funny.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: We were terrible and I remember, like before our first
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: game because I've been practicing for.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Like a week. I didn't really know what I was
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: doing all that much.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: And the coach you could tell like he just loved
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: his high school football experience so much. You grew up
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: in Pennsylvania, it was so serious, and here we are
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: at Vermont Academy, a small school where like you were
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: begging every kid you possibly could to play football.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And I remember him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Being like, it all starts with us, you guys with
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: the Hogs, like all you guys got to lead the tone.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: And I'm looking around like I don't even know what
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: the hell I'm doing on our coach. And then we
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: ended up like losing every game but one, and it
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: was I just I felt so disappointed in him, where
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: He's like it all starts with you guys, and I'm like, oh,
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: we don't know what they want me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Like I started three days ago. Coach, I'm like, I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: don't even know how to block.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it was someone to run the power point,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just looking at the hockey only please.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Don't get it's just like putting sharpness put in.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It felt like good good memories. We were terrible and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I was a horrible, horrible.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: Tackle both ways, both ways, defensive tackle, offensive tackle, and
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't any better on one side of that. And I
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: don't even know what I was doing, Paul. I would
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: just try to get in the way of guys. But man,
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: it was you know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: There's like there's a very few pictures exist.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Of me actually playing high school football, and in one
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: of them, I'm in a four point stance and it's like, oh,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: that guy is not getting off the ground. Like you
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: could just tell I had absolutely no flexibility and like
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: all they had to do was just kind of like push.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Me down and I would be out of the way.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I no leverage, no, no leverage, no, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: no no, Like there was like, you know, guy's getting
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: the four point stage, like that guy's about to explode.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Like I was not expended. All I'm thinking it was
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: like Bradley Cooper and wedding crashes.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: No, that's what it was.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: It looked like just like some person just like bending
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: over to touch the ground with their tip the tips
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: of their fingers.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But like it's like, but no, it's.
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: Supposed to be like you're like cocked, You're ready to go.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You know you're gonna explode the ball. No, no, no, I.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Was like, and then I'd stand straight up and then
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: you know, they just blocked me into oblivion.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I remember Williston like, that's that guy killed me. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I remember at halftime being like, I don't want to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go back out there. I don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: want to go do this for another took will. He
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: took my will.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: And then they put the second team in and I
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: was like, all right, this isn't quite as bad.
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: But they did that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: It was so hot, it was so hot. They were
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: so good kids. A monster in front of me, just
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: flying off the ball every time, and I'm like.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I want to be playing away from me.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: My will was taken. It was absolutely taken and off.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: That's why I was on the video team putting it
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: was the pudding never got sharp for me, all right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Podcast at Patriots dot Com is how you email the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: show and Michelle, who loves it when I call her Salata,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I was looking for you, she says, going into the season,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: this is exactly all caps what I wanted to see progress,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: not so much wins and losses. I can't help but
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: wonder if the defense is looking a little bit all
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: over the place since we haven't really had any stability
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: on the coaching side due to the health of Williams.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: During the Raiders game, I was yelling at Drake to
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: step into the pocket lest east West. He must have
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: heard me, because he was a lot better this week.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Kids. Comfortable back there, Schittsburg, she said, is going down?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh so shit's creek?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I got you.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You can say it, right, so yeah, right, no, I agree.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: I mean even the defense stuff, like that's what we
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: said all someone like it's going to be a little
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: bit like, hey, they're getting sacks, but they're getting torched,
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: and I mean that's kind of been the case, so
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: hopefully they can tighten it up a little bit. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: mean even as the defense guy though, like the offense
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: is shown some signs of life and some signs of
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: being able to pass protect and you know, that to
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: me is what makes good NFL teams. Like, if we
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: were out here in the offense was struggling, the defense
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: looked amazing, I'd still feel kind of like stuck in
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: the mud a little bit.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So I'd rather have it this way than, you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the other way.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And Rabel did kind of talk about Torello.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: He's being around a little bit this week, but he said,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: we're going to stick to what we.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Did last week with zat core.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: You remember the Titans when like you know, coach Yoates
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: got the defense and coach Boone's got the offense.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Do you worry about your offense? Like I got the defense.
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: That's like kind of how I feel right now with
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels, where it's like Trell Williams
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: is in and out of the building. That's your defensive coordinator.
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: We don't really know what his status is going to be.
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: You have Zach Korr, who I think is a good coach,
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: but first time he's ever called plays in the NFL. Like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: I think the head coach needs to spend some time
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: with the defense, like especially as a guy that is
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: the defensive guy. I just the offense right now, I
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: think is figuring itself out a little bit. And they
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: have a really experienced coordinator obviously on that side of
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: the ball. So I hope that that raybel can button
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: up the defense because I agree with the email or
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: that right now, there's it's been a little bit uh,
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: you know loose, you know, Mistackles Miscoverage assignments way too
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: much space and zone like that type of stuff is coachable,
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: Like that's that's, you know, buttoning things up on a
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: defensive perspective.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Speaking of missing things, Warren says he's loved to show
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: for years, but miss the arguments. Mike and Evan never
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: make an opinion and argue for or against. Only Paul
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: and Fred makes it up rarely these days. Mike just
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: giggles the whole time. He wants more arguments.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, what's her to argue about when they were
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: four win seasons?
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I mean that's kind of true.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like you have to disagree with somebody, right, like
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: even just get to the middle where you can you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: then you feel like there's it's kind of like I
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: felt going to watch film where it's like when they win,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: I'm more excited to go back and watch the bad
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: stuff to how to fix it because I feel like
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: it's worth it. You know, it's worth arguing when you
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: believe in a team and you know there's some things,
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: but like when four games they're like I think they
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: I think they stink too, Like okay, you got.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: A glimpse into Andy and Paul arguing with Fred during
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: like fourteen to two seasons, get on because we're worried
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: about the things that they're not doing well.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: We know the things that they do well.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm sure when you go to watch the film,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, the good things are good, but like
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: you know, when there are actually good things to say,
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: these are good.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Now, let's fix the bad so it can all be
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: good and then we can you know.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Really you can become a playoff team.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Right then you're excited to work. But when it all sucks,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like what's your film review?
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Like, when it all sucks and you're watching, there's nothing
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: salvageable here.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll try to argue more.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: We did a good trash.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Talk this week, I thought for pe TV, So watch
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: tonight if you can tune into.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Such places slightly, we slightly are you okay?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Freddy, all right.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Spin Fresno writes in he says this email will annoy
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Evan because he's allergic to nonsense. He says, yesterday, Mike
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: mentioned that in the locker room the name plates over
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: the lockers are digital.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: That seems odd to me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Why aren't they physical nameplates? How long have they been digital.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: It seems impersonal, like we're just waiting to re program
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: a road sign when we move on from the player.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Physical plates were more substantial and showed you you believe
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: in the guy's roots here. But maybe I've just have
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: abandonment issues since Asquatch left to go, Nestle is spotn
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: sized cranium, and Fitzi's blabbering groin wow what wow.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: The end of that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: I think the whole thing about the name plates their
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: throwback this year.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Well that's why I Mike brought it up first.
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: I didn't do that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: I didn't know you brought it up, Mike.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Well I had to.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: I mean you returned to the locker room.
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's great.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Who's back?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That was yesterday, Alex.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Right when I walked through the door, Alice just hit
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: and I thought, I thought it worked pretty well because
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I walked right into like interrupt but it was.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Like, look who's back? And you know, it was like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: look who's back. I announced my presence but filled it in.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So how long at least at least five years?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: The digital main plate as long as yeah, it's been
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: a while. Speak they made that move.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: They can't just take other signs down to like, yeah, I.
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: Think it's really that serious.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I excited for next year when they move into the
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: new building. I guess that locker room is going to
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: be the state of the art.
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: I'm not excited about that. We have to walk over there.
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: God forbid you get your steps.
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah, god forbid you go see sunshine.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: We had to do fred Oh yeah, we had to
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: walk up uphill both ways.
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: When when it's January and they're like, oh yeah, locker
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: room and I got to walk out there in the snow.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I have to get in the car.
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: We have to.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: We had to drive to.
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: Them, and you walked uphill both ways. Shoes and yeah, yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: I've heard it all.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: He wants a golf cart, because I didn't say I.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Wanted a golf cart.
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: I just said that I'm going to complain that it's cold.
• 29:46
  Speaker 12: I think the content team should get a good golf
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: cart when we move to the others place.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: The golf the content team will have about seven of them.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I remember, speaking of back in the old days, we
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: used to have an old guy named Eddie Mack, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: he was in charge of all the TVs in the
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: old stadium. Uh, and he was a big parcels guy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: So parcels Lee's Pete Carroll takes over. But they're still
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: practicing off campus and uh, I don't know, like what
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: does Eddie mack expect it?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But they come back in all separate cars instead of
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: like in a van or whatever. And I hear Eddie
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: mcain that wouldn't happen if Parcells was stole hair. Everything
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was that wouldn't happen. You know, that was his It
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was the whole thing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: I think we should have our own car, Deuce that
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: says for Evan and No.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: I think next year we're gonna have We're gonna have
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: to get a golf cart for the content.
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: Well, mister Kraft has a golf cart that says his
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: name on it. Yeah, and so I think Deuce and
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: I should have one that says Evan and Dee.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Why would just buy our own.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: We're just gonna get you one that says ball nowher.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Sure it'll have a big screen after yesterday, so on
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the way you can watch that far all twenty two.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: We'll get you a driver so you don't have to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: watch the road.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: It's not right there, it's not.
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: Well the tunnel out like the bay thing where they
• 31:04
  Speaker 12: bring the trucks in.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: It's guess that the lower I guess you could walk
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: that way side anyway.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, and it's cold now.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Like the camera guys, you know for that like they
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: should have like their little carts and stuff.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: You have carts for their cameras and their tripods and stuff.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Now their equipment right, yeah, I'm just going to golf
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Jesus uh.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Todd and Garner says this game is going to come
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: down to the trenches. I feel that whomever can protect
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: their quarterback the best will win this one. Both these
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: are hungry and aggressive, so it will be interesting to
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: see how the OC's approach it. My prediction is thirty
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: one Steelers Pat's twenty eight. Evan will be raving about
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: the O and Deuce will be crying about the d.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Oh. I never thought.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: What about the d specifically be crying about.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Misstackles probably, I guess.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Anthony says there's audio cuts in and out for ten
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: minutes on YouTube. YouTube needs to be fixed, and if
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: anyone's listening at YouTube audio audio problems on YouTube on
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: the YouTube, I don't know what that's all about.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Thirty one twenty eight.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Obviously extremely disappointing to lose, but at least sounds like
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: that would be another entertaining game thirty one twenty eight.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to be entertaining and I'm here to win.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Fred, did you not listen to everything I said? Or
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: you just want to make fun of me?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Here to be I don't like the last like the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: first game, yep, was not entertaining in any way. The
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: second game was, and it wasn't just because one was
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: a loss and one was a win, like the game
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: unfolded in an entertainment.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: You know my stance about Patriots games. I don't care
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: how entertaining they are. As long as we win.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I know I can be entertained by the rest of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the games.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: Would a dominant win not be entertaining?
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: It would be to me to big head he used
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: to say that, no, but it would have arguments.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: So it's a little different now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: If they had a dominant win on Sunday, that would
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: be entertaining to me, Like when you're going fourteen and
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: two and you're just beating the crap out. It's you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: vastly inferior teams. I liked the games that were close.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I find that entertaining.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's where he used to yell at Andy
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: all the time because like, yeah, I was boring because
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: it was, oh my god, we were very spoiled.
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: Now, yeah, sounds it. Oh yeah, I get made fun of.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Quig writes in looking for the defense to step up
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: and contain Rogers in the pocket.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: He doesn't like to be hit.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Wasn't Tomlin complaining about the communications system the last time
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: they were here? Maybe round two of Unicorn and Show Ponies?
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Was that the last time?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: That was different? No, that was farther back.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Unicorn and Show Ponies. That was a Saints game.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: But the last I don't know if it was the
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: last time, but Tomlin had that classic postgame ran.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Well, listen to Scott Zola.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: In the headsets.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: That's funny, you know, it's it's pretty random. But Patriots
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: have been and we said before, they're seven and nineteen
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: at home, the worst home record since twenty twenty two.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: But somehow they've they've beaten the Steelers twice on the road,
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: like Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy beat the Steelers like
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: it's just one of those like weird anomalies where they've
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: been losing pretty much to everybody, but they still can
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: beat the Steelers those two years.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: Yeah, That's why it makes me optimistic about this game
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: because I feel like in both instance institutional, I feel
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: like they have something on this Steelers defense, Like I
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: don't know what it is, we own them, but if
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: you can like that Thursday night game. I know the
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: second half wasn't quite as good as the first half,
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: but Bailey Zappy threw three touchdown passes in the first
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: half of that Thursday night game, and that was the
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: best offense they played all year long in twenty twenty three,
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: and it was against the Steelers, against that Tomlin defense
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: on a short week where they didn't have a ton
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: of time to really change what they do, and it
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: just feels like they kind of have a book on
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: like this is the Steelers like to play, this coverage,
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: These are their checks, this is what they do, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: we just kind of know how to beat it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: And so that's what makes me optimistic.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Boston Cream writes in with a picks update from the
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: fan app Okay. He says Week one saw Doug from
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Marlborough with a fourteen and two in first place, and
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Week two had both Cody from Indiana and Spencer from
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Connecticut goes sixteen and oh wow wow. So they shared
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: the best record for the week and Brian from Minnesota
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: has the overall best record at twenty eight and four.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Wow. So are we sending these people T shirts? You are?
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: I haven't sent any of these people T shirts yet,
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: but I can when.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: They said, well, you should email Kareem I mean Boston
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Cream T shirts know. Oh he has T shirts.
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he just got the last round. I said, out
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: he got three.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: No, we need to find out how to get T
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: shirts for Doug and Marlborough and Cody and Spencer.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: Okay, just email addresses to podcast at Patriots dot com
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: and I'll get your T shirts.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, just like that.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: But so Boston Cream's not supplying that. I don't know
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: how any of this is working.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should give their address to the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: donut right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Well, we have to. We have to.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, we have to get a shirt mission to Boston.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know however we do it. We need to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: get T shirts to these people. So, okay, good stuff.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: The new T shirts are great. By the way, I
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: was wearing mine yesterday. Very Why are They great, They're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: very comfortable.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: They fit, they just have a good good You know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: some T shirts just feel like they fit, right.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's one of those.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: Just got one sent out to Somalia yesterday.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, have you washed it?
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: You did wash, no shrinking, no shrinking, and well, you
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: know it's just a tiny bit, but but no, it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: still it's stretched out pretty good.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: That good quality, good quality.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start to Mike express genuine andenthusiasm for a
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: T shirt, right, and then I think back to the
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: person who called in on wrote in on Tuesday, criticizing you.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Why don't you be a fan once in a while,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Like this is a guy who is legitimately enthusiastic about
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: a T shirt.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: He is the T shirt.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And how it is this I dabble and you're making.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Making fun of you for not being properly excited Sunday
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: after the win, I meant.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Me, we got to tackle take the ball away. I've
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: got to be better and I'll be that. I'll be
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: more excited.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Okay, Mike could be excited with a three nothing win.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's interesting because like my writing hes
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: into it, like I was hard trying to like write
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: and finish your piece, like for right at the end
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: of the game, and it's back and forth and back
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: and forth, and like at a certain point, I'm just like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: all right, I'm gonna pick the side they're gonna win,
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: and I start to like round it out that they're
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: going to win, and then like harp like pounding at
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: the end of the games and like cauz if it
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: and they get in, I'm gonna have to change all
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: this stuff.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not have to get off the post game show.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: He made the declaration.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: He's like, you know, if if Miami ends up winning
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: this game, I'm just gonna let you guys know right now,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to do much.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: In the first ten minutes of the show, I did say.
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: That I hadn't had to write about a game that
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: they won in that fashion in a while, and it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: a it was kind of weird for me postgame too,
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: I was like, how do I Usually I wanted a
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: game where they scored points like Egot, you had.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: That's usually like a five, like the old games when
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: they like five points.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe this was like eleven, Like I mean, there were
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: so many twists in terms.
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: Of there's five lead changes and uh, you know, I'm
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: more used to like the game that they won in
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: Chicago last year where it was the game was over
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: the half and like they scored no points, but they
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: sacked the court. And in this game, it was like
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: this was a back and four lead changes, punt return touchdowns,
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: kickoff return touchdowns.
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: I was like, this is an actual football game.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Crazy good crazy Sean Wrights.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: It one great win Sunday.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: And if you don't want to run through a wall,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: like for Mike Rabel, you have no pulse two. I know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: two weeks late, but love the rivalry uniform. Surprisingly, I
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: don't know if the will if they'll become permanent ones
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: down the line, but not bad.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Just don't go back to the blue on blue. Look
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: they'll never be permanent, but you know they'll be wearing
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: those for rivalries games permanently. Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: At three, I like a shootout this week thirty eight
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: to thirty for the Patriots. And now he has a
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: little game. What do these ten Patriots have in common?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Stanley Morgan, all wide receivers, Stanley Morgan, Harold Jackson, Irving Fryar,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Randy Moss, Gino Cappelletti, Dion Branch, Troy Brown West Welcome,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Randy Vataha, and David Gibbons. What do they all have
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in common? You'll never get it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: I'll just go the answer is not there all Patriots
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: wide receiver.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: No.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: According to Sean, yes, but he says what they have
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: in common is that they're all better than Julian Edelman. Sorry,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: I know you will disagree, but I felt he needed
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: to wait before getting in as the first time Hall
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: of Famer. But congratulations to him and Coach Parcels. Let's
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: hope it's not thirty years for Bell.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: You just to me a favorite, don't, don't, don't, But
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: but I just you could blatantly ignore me. Okay, I
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: wanted you to go down the list, So we go
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: one by one. We don't have to give any details.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think it's a risk. Don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: give it any credence.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Would you say, David Gibbons.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Was Baddy Vataha?
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Like, what do we demine?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know the second guy.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: By the way, Evan, you had a nice story that
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: you talked to Bill O'Brien about some really nice quotes
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: from O'Brien about Julian Edelman.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: None of those guys were better, but not a Hall
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: of Famer. Not all of them were better.
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: No, no, yeah, that peaceful published tomorrow is oh oh,
• 40:57
  Speaker 11: but hasn't gone out.
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: It's okay.
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: You didn't give too much load it up with media. Yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 11: it will come out tomorrow.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: It was cool.
• 41:03
  Speaker 11: I actually talked to got talked to Edelman right at
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: the end of training camp. I was talking to him
• 41:09
  Speaker 11: about playing slot receiver and I for a different piece,
• 41:11
  Speaker 11: and we ended up going down memory lane of his
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: rookie training camp and his you know, ascension there in
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: two thousand and nine to make the roster, and I
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: kind of just felt like it was better as its
• 41:23
  Speaker 11: own piece than putting it in the slot receiver piece
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: because he's going into the Hall of Fame. And then
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: old friend lucas an old friend still friend of no socks,
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: he hooked me up with Bill O'Brien, who was the
• 41:37
  Speaker 11: offensive coordinator for the Patriots in nine when they drafted Edelman.
• 41:40
  Speaker 11: So it was cool and some really cool stories from Billy,
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: oh about scouting Julian Edelman out of Kent State and
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: how that all came to be.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that'll be coming out tomorrow. Yes, okay, great,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: look forward to that. Isaac writes in it seemed to
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: me last Sunday that while the pass rush numbers bear
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: out a good game, the actual look of it was
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: up and down. On early downs when Elijah Ponder and
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Kiris Tomda were on the field, they were stonewalling to run.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: But when Tua started throwing on those downs, when that's
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: when he was hitting big plays. Is there an adjustment
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: that you see there to maybe have Milton Barmore play more.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: I'd love to know what the snap percentages were along
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: the D line.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I probably have those.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: We can tell you that right now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: I don't think it was necessarily an issue of who
• 42:25
  Speaker 11: was playing. I think we've talked about this on Tuesday.
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: The coverage wasn't very good, and you Tua's time to
• 42:33
  Speaker 11: release was right around two seconds for the majority of
• 42:36
  Speaker 11: the game. When you can have you know, the best
• 42:40
  Speaker 11: defensive line in football rushing the quarterback, if he's getting
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: the ball out in two seconds, it's not going to
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: make it different.
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: So they were able to.
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: Clamp down coverage wise in the second half, especially that
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: fourth quarter, and then the pressure started to mount, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: I think you can see that.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the two guys that you're asking about, Milton Williams
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: and Christian Bamber played a ton. They played sixty eight
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: and sixty seven percent of the snaps respectively, so they
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: were out there to you know, more than two thirds
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: at the time. I think, Mike, you broke down very
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: specific numbers in terms of the pass rush, and the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: email is right. For three quarters of the game, the
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: pass rush was largely dormant, and then in the fourth quarter.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: I think that you had them for three pressures in
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: the first three quarters combined, and then they had like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: ten or twelve in the fourth quarter, including whatever three
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: or four sacks. I think that was partly due to
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: the game situation, and I mean, frankly, it was partly
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: due to Miami. Miami put itself behind the chains on
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: the last two possessions, and that helps you know when
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: you have fourth and lungs, do you have a good
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: chance to get home? Because the quarterback can't just get
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: it out immediately. He has to get it beyond the sticks.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: So when it's fourth and eight, fourth and seven, whatever,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever the case may be, fourth and thirteen,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: like you can't just like immediately throw it before pressure
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: gets there, you have to wait till someone makes themselves available.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Milton Williams incredible move on the last sack individual effort,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: But that's a fourth and long that you're able to
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: get home on. That's that's how you play defense nowadays.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: You can't stop them every play. You got to stop
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: them on the big plays.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: So well, that's what I was going to say, Like,
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: is there a part of you that thinks that, all right,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: if they get the tackling fundamentals cleared up, that maybe
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: this is kind of a defense that could be built
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: for the playoffs where it does come down to a
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: couple possessions at the end. And you know, is this
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: I know it's hard to extrapolate that. Oh they did
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: it against the Dolphins, and we two, this is always
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: what the offense turns into. And I'll tell you, if
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: the defense is good enough to end in the playoffs.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: You know, but if you have some guys who can
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: get that pressure.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, we saw that Giants pass rush with their
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: front four that just absolutely dominated.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Their defense isn't good enough to win in the playoffs.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: If the offense plays like it did against the Raiders,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: their defense is good enough to win in a game
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: if the offense does what it did the other day,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: because to me, there was night and day, how much
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: more effect? You know, they barely played played seven minutes
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: in the first half. Yeah, I know they were not
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: good in the first half, but they were only out
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: there for seven minutes. Yeah, So the other team can't
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: score when they don't have the ball.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, to me, that's just one of the biggest takeaways
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: that I don't know. I mean, we talked about it,
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: but the dramatics shift in scheme and approach between week
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: one and week two for this Patriots. You know, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: think Evan said the week one offensive approach look like
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: a training like preseason, and and that was on both
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: sides of the ball. Now, I mean, I know there's
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: different play caller from week one to week two for
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: the defense, but it's the same thing. They're just spinning
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: the dial with every coverage known demand trying to figure out.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: How how to solve TUA.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: So I'm really curious what they do this week if
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: are they going to tack back on you know, what's
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: going to change this week.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: There was dramatic changes last week.
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the pass rush numbers are like Paul said, like,
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: you get caught up in them. But there's such situation
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: based that, especially this early on in the season, once
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: you have this sample of like four to plus games
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: where you can really unpack it. But two games into
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: the season, the numbers are gonna be really deceiving. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 11: you know, the first three quarters they really weren't getting
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: them off schedule, and they were Miami was hitting them
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: early down passes and staying ahead of the chains. And
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: then the fourth quarter they got behind schedule and they
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: got into long down and distance and the pass rush
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: turned up. And I don't think it's any more complex
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: than that, because just like across the board, their defensive
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: line all looks like they're winning more times than not.
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: But if the quarterbacks getting rid of the ball quickly,
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: there's this nothing you can do as a defensive lineman.
• 46:36
  Speaker 11: And Milan Williams said it after the game. He said,
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: we kept on telling ourselves just keep rushing, like just
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: keep rushing, like well, the coverage ll give us a chance,
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: just keep rushing, and they just they were like two
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: was just getting rid of the ball so quickly.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: One of your.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: One of your colleagues that tracks this sort of stuff
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: had drake them into the other side. Drake May was
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: like the second fastest released time this in week two.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: I could see that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I too, and set two point something seconds average
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: release time and it was the second fastest in the league,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: you know, out of you know, all thirty two teams.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: So that is a big part of it. Like why
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: are we talking so much better about the Patriots offensive
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: line in week two than we were in Week one?
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Because they didn't get a lot of pressure. We didn't
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: see it, We didn't see it as much when reality,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that go into it. Evan
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: talked a lot about the scheme helping Drake May, you know.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: Get out of those situations. Yeah, you know, there's a
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: lot that goes into it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, how much better did Tom Brady make our
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: offensive line?
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: But it was just but that was Tom Brady and
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: his ability to get rid of the ball. This was like,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: we threw the ball half the amount of times that
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: we did in week one, literally forty six to twenty three. Right,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you didn't get in these situations where you're down ten
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the fourth quarter and the other
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: team is just blitzing your recklessly. The way the Raiders
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: did so. Conversely, that's where the Dolphins found themselves. They're
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: down at the end of the game, you know, like
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: one of the sacks. Just when you were talking about
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: the situational stuff. I think Spoline actually got credit for
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: a sack when Tua ran out of bounds. Right, if
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: it's not the last minute of the game, maybe he
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: just runs and gets what he can and doesn't worry
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: about the clock. He had to get out of bounds
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: to make sure that I'm not going to get the
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: first down. I got to make sure I stopped the
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: clock here sack and ends up going down as a
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: zero yard sack, do you know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: What I mean?
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes the situation, you know, contact, the situational stuff's huge,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: And I this was a big Belichick thing that I
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: like learned listening to him, where he would just talk about, well,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's the fourth quarner stand of the game,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: and you're we were up ten points, so like we're
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: just we're just pinning.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: Our ears back and we're teeing off and so you're
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: looking at the numbers and saying fifty percent pressure rate.
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: But you know, really for the first three quarters, it
• 48:56
  Speaker 11: was only like you know so so, and then we
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: got a lead that we're able to rush. You know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: these are the things that you kind of start to
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: think about more and more. Is like, you know, what
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: was the down and distance and what was the game
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: situation and all that stuff contributes so much to the
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: pass rush.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: YEP.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Contextual analysis is important, especially in football. Andrew's in Plainville.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: What's up Andrew?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Hey? Andrew?
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: We once twice, three times you're out Christians in LA.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: What's up Christian?
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: Hey?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: You guys have to football Thursday?
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: To you all?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Hey, So three, two statements and a question. Statement Number
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: one is realizing last week that I was talking about
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: us getting the monkey off power back in Miami this weekend.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: We're a monkey on the back of Pittsburgh because they
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: haven't been able to beat us. I heard you guys
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: say it earlier since two thousand and eight. That's a
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: pretty impressive stat So I hope we continue to be
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: the albatross, the thorn in their side. Second statement, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and this is with no disrespect to my boy Eldridge
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: out there, but DK Metcalf is big, strong and fast,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but he cannot run routes and he gets easily frustrated.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: A healthy Christian Gozales would have absolutely shut him down.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I am convinced of that. And then my question for
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: you guys is, I just wanted this week about the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: passing of my old coach, and I wanted for you guys.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Do you guys remember, if you know the remember the
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: coach that had that impression on you that you both
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: feared and respected him, and you look back and the
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: life lessons that he taught you still resonate in your life. Okay,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: my score this weekend is Patriots, get up early and
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: then survival late, comeback, don't pass.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Any coaches have a significant impact on.
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: Your lives, Yeah, I mean my hockey coach Jerry Denen
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: at at Vermont Academy, who's been a long time coach
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: at Taber Now.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I actually, yeah, they're all.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: Related hockey Dinians, I believe, so I think they're cousins.
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: I mean there's also there's also a Gary Dinean who
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: runs hockey. But I wrote my collach essay about him
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: and yeah, just no. But he was a good combination
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: of maybe a little like Vrabel in that like well,
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: not not to take that back. He was the coach
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: that you just didn't want to make mad, that you
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: really respected so much, and when he got mad, you
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: knew there's a good reason for it. But but no,
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: just a great guy, great family guys, raised wonderful kids
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: down there at Tabor, And yeah, that's uh my my coach.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: That was good for me.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: You had to have a soccer coach.
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: My dad was my coach most of my life. Well,
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: there you go, so obviously.
• 51:45
  Speaker 12: I know I'm gonna cry. No, I mean, my dad's
• 51:48
  Speaker 12: the man. He was a great coach, even when I
• 51:50
  Speaker 12: wasn't playing for him. He was like the type of
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: guy to just I hate, like hot head parents that
• 51:54
  Speaker 12: are just screaming a whole game. My dad would just
• 51:56
  Speaker 12: be quiet away from the parents and then we'd have
• 51:59
  Speaker 12: like really good conversations on the way home. And I
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: think some of my friends like their dad coaching them
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: would kind of drive a wedge in their relationship, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 12: I was really lucky where I didn't have that, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: it brought us closer. But I also think of my
• 52:14
  Speaker 12: high school soccer coach, Katie Marino, and really my high
• 52:18
  Speaker 12: school track coach Brian Walsh. At the time, I thought
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: he was insane, like bat shit with the ch crazy
• 52:26
  Speaker 12: and but in hindsight, I realized he was super motivating
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: and he like the mental aspect was a big thing.
• 52:34
  Speaker 12: He would drive into us like it would be pouring
• 52:36
  Speaker 12: rain and freezing and he'd be like pain, his mental
• 52:39
  Speaker 12: cold is mental like figure it out.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: And I was like, this guy's insane.
• 52:43
  Speaker 12: But now I'm like, no, what actually, So shout out
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: Katie Marino, shout out Brian Walsh.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Coaches, Yeah, Hall of Famer Everett No.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: I did have two guys when I was a sophomore
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: in football.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: The head coach was Andy Gareno and his top assistant
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: was Barry Rosen. Those two guys, I just felt like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: coached me in a different way than any of.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: The other coaches before or or after.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I thought they were much more detail oriented and good
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: blend of sort of disciplinarian, but would also put an
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: arm around you when you needed it. So I kind
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: of even as a sophomore, I wasn't, you know, a
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: varsity player, I was a JV player. They would really
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: go out of their way to find something that you
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: were doing that was helping the team, but at the
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: same time, when you were screwing up, they didn't soft
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: pedal it. You know, it was high school, so those
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: those two guys would be it for me. I think
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I was also really lucky just in general listening to
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: all the different things I I think.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: I think we predated. I don't know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: You can tell me if it's different, Fred, the the
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: parents that were like loudmouthed, we didn't really have loudmouthed parents.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Like the back back in our day.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: You didn't live in New Jersey.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Parents are seriously, they let the coaches coach and they
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: didn't have to deal with the stuff that they do now.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: And I also got very lucky in not having to
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: deal with a lot of parents coaching their kids. Almost
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: all of the teams that I played for, the coaches
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: coached to coach, not because they had their kid on
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: the team.
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: I mean there was some, but not many.
• 54:18
  Speaker 12: I think in my experience, like even Roughing, the parents
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: that know the most about the game and about sports
• 54:25
  Speaker 12: are the quietest and the most respectful.
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: And the ones that don't know jack are the loudest.
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: You know, so loud and yeah, oh.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: My god, shoot the boss.
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: I watched the Share football game with Campbell, and I
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: just was making fun of the parents that are like.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you played football, I'm never going to be
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: yelling what to do.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: The c.
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: Wasn't he was in Miami, all right?
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: I think the cross was the worst though, because that
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: sports like fluid, and you know.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: It's just they're just constantly like pass it, shoot it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: It is bad.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: I watched my kids and their parents are they all
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: have every answer, every one of them, and none.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Of them play.
• 55:08
  Speaker 12: Teachers can't really discipline the kids anymore with parents because
• 55:11
  Speaker 12: the parents are going to take the sides kids instead
• 55:14
  Speaker 12: of being like, listen to your teacher.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: No lacrosse guy one.
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: More instrumental. No, uh not really, but I did have.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: You knew more than they.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't that, No, it wasn't. I just it wasn't.
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: That wasn't my my jam Like I wasn't really like
• 55:42
  Speaker 11: what you're saying, Yeah I do. Yeah, But I did
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: have one coach in lacrosse, uh who, I don't know
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: if he he was ex military in some way, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 11: we didn't pick up a lacrosse ball, just freshman year
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: tryouts for like two weeks, and all we did was
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: straight conditioning.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: Just running.
• 56:04
  Speaker 11: Like literally like carrying people on our backs, like just
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: like straight conditioning. It was insane and he actually, like
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: I think he got fired for it, like a couple
• 56:14
  Speaker 11: of years later because you know, woke police or whatever.
• 56:17
  Speaker 11: But that was the first time that I like really
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: got in shape, and like that changed everything for me
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: from a sports standpoint, because I was always a slow
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: kid and out of shape and everything like that, and
• 56:29
  Speaker 11: I had no choice, like if I wanted to be
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: on the team, this is this was what they were doing.
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: But now I wasn't like a big like this coach
• 56:36
  Speaker 11: changed my life kind of got It's interesting.
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: Though, because hearing you talk, like even some of the
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: coaches that I wouldn't say like change my life or
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: like arm around you kind of guy, Like even the
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: coaches that like, like my college hockey coach was never
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: put arm around you kind of guy. He kicked my
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: ass for four years and he loved yelling at me,
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: and I probably deserved it, but I think he prepared
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: me for the real world, maybe better than the coach
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: that I was so enamored with, because it shows you,
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: like just because you work your tail off.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's gonna be good for you or it's
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: going to be successful.
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: And I think sometimes like even though it's not like
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: that coach that you expressed that love for, like they
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: did something really good for you, even though they were
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: really hard on you. Yeah, and never and you never
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: had that like Catharsis moment. Like I thought at the end,
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: like during the banquet, it might be like, oh, Duce,
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: you know you were.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: The guy that I always got after man we got
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: still No, it was just like I mean if he
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: pointed out the great goal I had against Norwich in
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the playoff game, which was awesome.
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, amazing, the best goal in my career, but you know,
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: otherwise I had never never got that moment. But still like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: as I got into work work world, it's like, no,
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: he got me ready to deal with all the crap
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: that you got to deal with him.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that that's really what it was.
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: For me.
• 57:41
  Speaker 11: It was like, I, let's as you all know, I
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: had a pretty easy upbringing and that was the first
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: time where I kind of got my my ass kicked
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: by somebody, and like, I think that didn't really help me.
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: Like that was up until that point, it was pretty
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: it was pretty easy. In the Lazarre Ushold and then
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: you know that happened and I was like, oh crab,
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: Like this guy is like gonna kick my ass, you know, and.
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: It was helpful, little measured adversity.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, all right, well note Christian wrestling talk.
• 58:13
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  Speaker 7: All right, we're excited to be joined now by Garrett Brodberry. Garrett,
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  Speaker 7: thanks for joining us here in the studio. First time
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  Speaker 7: we've had you.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, appre sure you guys having me.
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  Speaker 7: I got to ask you your pro football focuses number
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  Speaker 7: one un ranked past blocking center here through two weeks.
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  Speaker 7: I know it probably doesn't mean much too, but you know,
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  Speaker 7: really solid game for you guys. I've traditionally felt like,
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  Speaker 7: and maybe I'm wrong, but it takes a little while
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: for the offensive line and maybe get in sync. You
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: guys have a lot of new pieces, but it seems
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: like you come together pretty quick.
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  Speaker 1: How's that happened?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's never finished product. I feel like we got
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 16: a lot of good reps in the spring. You know, personally,
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  Speaker 16: I'm used to like more jog through walkthroughs in the spring,
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  Speaker 16: but Coach Rabel has working and it was a good
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  Speaker 16: training camp, and you're just trying to build week to week.
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  Speaker 16: You're trying to be better week three than you were
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  Speaker 16: week two and so on. So we're doing some good stuff.
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  Speaker 16: I think there's always stuff to clean up, but I'm
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 16: having a lot of fun working with the guys in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 16: the room.
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  Speaker 11: Before we get into last week's game, I wanted to
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: ask you about coach Rabel because you just mentioned him,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: and I was talking to Jared Wilson, one of your teammates,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 11: and he said that Coach Rabel says that he wants
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: you guys to finish in the end.
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  Speaker 10: Zone when you're down by the goal line.
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  Speaker 11: Just to what kind of influences he had on the
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  Speaker 11: offensive line room and how many you know, pointers and
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  Speaker 11: things like that. A guy that lined up on the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 11: other side of the ball his whole career can he
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: provide for you guys.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, I think from a technique standpoint, he spends more
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 16: time than I've ever seen a head coach spend in
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 16: the old line room. I think in the spring he
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 16: came in he said, hey, my son played this position.
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  Speaker 16: I know if this room's not worth it anything, then
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 16: this team's not. And so he'll sit back there and
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  Speaker 16: he'll give us some nuggets like, hey, this is what
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 16: the defense is thinking on this play, this style of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 16: defense is trying to do this, so we need to
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  Speaker 16: attack this. So schematically he helps us. But then I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 16: think more importantly it's identity. There's an identity he wants
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 16: this football team to play with, and he always says
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 16: it's not just a sign on the wall. We got
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 16: to make it come to life. And that's kind of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 16: the fun part of playing football, right, Like you mentioned
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 16: about the red zone, Like if we're running the ball
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 16: into the end zone, that's a good thing. And if
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  Speaker 16: we all finished with our guy in the end zone,
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  Speaker 16: it'll probably be a touchdown. So that's just kind of
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  Speaker 16: style and attitude that we want to help bring to life.
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  Speaker 7: And say, or a two point conversion, because it felt
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: like that final two point conversion. I noticed, and we
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: had a caller today on our show, call in specifically
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: about Jared just finish on that play and how excited
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: he was. I mean, that play kind of put the
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  Speaker 7: cap on it for you guys. Was that one of
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  Speaker 7: those moments?
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  Speaker 13: No, that's huge. Balls on the two yard line.
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  Speaker 16: They're all thinking we're going to pass it, and we
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 16: can just run it right up the middle, get a
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  Speaker 16: good combination and just let the running backs find a
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 16: little crease and hit it. So that's I mean, that's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 16: a big momentum changer in the game when it's kind
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 16: of deflating for a defense for a team when they
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 16: sit out there and watch a run on a two
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  Speaker 16: point conversion.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, and just sticking on Jared and obviously Will as well.
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  Speaker 11: To rookies on the left side there as a veteran guide,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: is what are your impressions of them so far?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, they're doing a great job. They're fun to have
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 16: in the room. I think it's hard being a rookie
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 16: because you've got some duties and you got some expectations.
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  Speaker 16: But at the same time, they're playing a lot of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 16: snaps for us meaningful football, and so we're trying to
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  Speaker 16: help bring them along, and I think they fit in
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 16: great to the room personality wise, and like I said
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  Speaker 16: at the beginning, it's just we're trying to be better
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  Speaker 16: each week.
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  Speaker 13: I know they certainly are too.
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  Speaker 1: You were a first round pick as well.
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  Speaker 7: Just what's it like coming in with those kind of
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: expectations for someone like Will everybody's been talking about him
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: the left tackle spot all that. Well, from your experience,
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  Speaker 7: what do you kind of share with him?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I think as a competitor, you always
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 16: want your expectations to exceed everyone else's.
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  Speaker 13: But it's tough. It's not easy.
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  Speaker 16: Everyone's especially at O line, like if you do anything wrong,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 16: you're like you're the worst, right, like all the all
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 16: the blame, no glory, and so he's just got to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 16: take it one day at a time. We talked, and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 16: coach Marone has done a great job. He's been in
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 16: the league for so long, kind of explained to us,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 16: like what great O lines and what great O linemen personality.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 13: Traits were, how they worked. But you just got to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 13: take it one day at a time.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about Ramandre's twenty one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 11: yard run from the game on Sunday, because it looked
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: like Drake maybe made some changes there pre snap at
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: the line of scrimmage before you guys ran the football there.
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  Speaker 6: I know there's a lot on.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 11: Drake's played in terms of the communication and things like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: that pre snap, but well, what you've seen from him
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: in that regard and can you just break down that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: run for us?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 16: Yeah, he's got command, He's it's some of the play
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 16: calls have have an alert on them, and we'll want
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 16: to get to a better looking picture, whether it's better
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 16: leverage or or whatnot. But he's got great command of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 16: the huddle of the offense and he's gonna get us
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 16: in the right play. And so once he gives us
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 16: an ID, we can just get downhill with it. And
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 16: the more we can run the ball like that, the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 16: more we can take off of his plate.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 13: I think the better we'll be as a team.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: Looking forward to this weekend. I guess you another quarterback.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: You spent six seasons in Minnesota watching Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: you know, what was your experience like watching him play?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: And you know, I'm sure you've seen him probably tear
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: your heart out a couple of times, i'd imagine.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, he's he's been an unbelievable player in this
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 16: league for such a long time. I have a lot
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 16: of respect for him. It'll be a good test for
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 16: our defense, and we know offensively we've got to do
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 16: our job. We got to put some points up to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 16: help the defense out. So it's it's weekend and week out.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 16: You know, it's at every position, there's some great players,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 16: so you just got to bring it every single day.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 11: When you look at that Steelers defensive line, Cameron Hayward
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: always stands out. J WAT obviously, what kind of challenge
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: that those guys present.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 16: I mean, they're smart players. You don't play in this
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 16: league for that long if you're not smart and really
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 16: good at football. So it'll be a good matchup for
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 16: us up front. Like you just you got to bring
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 16: in every play and I think it'll be a good
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 16: test for us. We got to run the ball, we
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 16: got to protect the quarterback, like just the same job
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 16: we have every week.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 13: But we just got to keep building from week to week.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: That's you one more silly one.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure ever think they got one more football question
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: for you, But you guys are gonna throwbacks this week,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: Like what's your assessment of the pat Patriot throwback helmet.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I think you guys look pretty tight out there. What
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on it?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't pay too much attention
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 16: to it. I think some of the skill guys will
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 16: kind of swag it out a little bit more than
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 16: an US lineman. But yeah, I think the white helmets
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 16: are cool. I think the old logo is pretty sweet.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: So well, it's kind of like a center though, right, I.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: Mean, yeah, the first time we were in the studio
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: with Coach Rabel, he put me on the spot and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 11: standing right in the corner over there, and he said,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 11: you know what, what's your favorite run play? And I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 11: had nothing prepared. I had no idea he was going
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 11: to ask me that. So I'm going to put you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 11: on the spot and ask you what's your favorite run play, the.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 16: One that goes the longest. I don't know, it depends
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 16: on the defense. I like some outside zone I think
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 16: I do think you have to kind of have it all,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 16: but I like a zone scheme. I think a gap
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 16: scheme is a good change up. Yeah, but I like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 16: I just like getting some good combinations and double teams
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 16: and getting downhill.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I said power, which I think might have been
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 11: what Remondre's run was on maybe, And but outside zone
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 11: for you makes sense because you're athletic guy, and I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 11: can see you fit in that scheme. But I definitely
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 11: was caught a little off guard. And I know he
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 11: puts people on the spot like that sometimes in your meetings.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: So I got a little taste of that.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 16: Yeah, if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 16: just just stay ready with an answer.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: Awesome, Wellkaret, thank you so much for daking the time
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: and good luck this weekend.
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  Speaker 13: Appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me and now
• 1:07:55
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  Speaker 2: History.
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  Speaker 1: She's my lines are way off this week.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in you get your lines from Jimmy,
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  Speaker 6: Know of every week you mocking my cans.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to you go to DraftKings.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you go to draft?
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  Speaker 6: I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's another great moment from.
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  Speaker 5: All right back here and Patriots unfiltered. Deuce and Evan
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: have left for the locker room. Deuce will be back
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: when he's done with that. He'll participate in picks. We've
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: lost Evan for the day. But yeah, talk about coaches. Uh,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: let's get back to the phones eight five to five
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: past five hundred because we've got a hurry. I want
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: to see what everyone has to say. We'll go to
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: Brian and Lowell. What's up, Brian?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 14: What's up?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Hey? Hey? I got a question now for you guys
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: about Chism.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 17: When's he got debut this first game?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 18: Huh?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to wait for a couple
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: of guys to get hurt. Probably a man, Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 17: Dying want multi player?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Man, I know it's a numbers game, you know. I
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe they do have plans for him
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: at a certain time, but uh huh yeah, like who
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: would you sit in order to get fon Chisholm on
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: the field.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to talk.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's maybe why he's not blaying my court go
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: dials back of practice this week, thank god.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not a wide receiver, so yeah, there's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a corner, right Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: So we're still trying to figure out all right, But no,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: I hear a lot of people are with you, Brian,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: A lot of people waiting for the debut of FT
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: and Chisholm.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: Being mean right there? What low key mean right there? Yeah,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: a little tone.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Shaw's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean, I'm gonna hurry.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 18: I'm hoping that Patriots went, of course, but I'm not
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 18: excited about a three nothing victory. What I want want
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 18: the most is for Drake May to continue to have
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 18: a great game to build momentum and confidence. So that's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 18: really what I'm.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 19: Hoping for is to see another big game from Drake
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 19: May and when Evan comes back, I just know My
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 19: favorite run play is at the end of the game
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 19: when they take a knee and they're running out the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 19: clock for a victory.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: That's victory for me. Okay, there you go. Thanks two
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: yard loss. Thanks Vancouver, Thanks Vancouver, Thanks Sean. Let should
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: start calling people by where they come from. All right,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: North Carolina, what's up? It's actually Eldred.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, Aldred, Hey, tellos.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 17: How y'all doing good? You're doing all right?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: How you doing?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 17: Jordan quick? I'm doing pretty good. They got a call
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 17: earlier about d k Be careful what you ask for.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 17: If Carlton David is healthy, maybe you can hang with him.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 17: But Austin ain't. And if gotten dollars can't play, that's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 17: who I'd be worried about, most of them instead of Austin,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 17: you know. But I'm just hoping thirty five us I'm
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 17: hoping for. I can go ahead and brag to my
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 17: family most of the Fishburg steel a paying anyway.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 19: Oh boy, I'll take it easy, all right, all right?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Thanks Aldred.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: I love Eldrick because he has so many people in
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: his life that he can and have fights with.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: It's the patriots against whoever they're playing that week because
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: he has some faction of his of his life that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: he needs to well.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: He against love.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: He has a lot of material against his family. If
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 9: there are a lot of Steelers fans, Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: And I agree with him. Metcalf Is is the big dog.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: He's the one that you would focus on. I'm worried
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: about the tight ends a little bit. Yeah, the two
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: tight ends. You know, I think we talked a little
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: bit about the mistackles this week, and we've talked a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: little bit about the holes in the middle, you know,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: in the back end with the safeties. So those I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: think friar Mouth and John new Smith they could be
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: guys to circle.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: They definitely pose an issue, you know, local kid fryar
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Mouth my way, Oh yeah yeah, Merrimack Mass nice matchup
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: issues with those two.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: Went to Pentucket High School.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: See how they figure that out. Spencer Connecticut who went
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: sixteen to oh, first time emailing the show, but he
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: says this is one of the best football weeks of
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: his life because he went sixteen and oh and the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Patriots won. So he wants to know how does he
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: get his T shirt? Why don't you email your address?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: So there's one down. Matt so Spencer and Connecticut you
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: can send him a T shirt. And he also says, PS,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: shout out to my brother Zach and Baltimore for getting
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: me into the show. So Zach and Baltimore, thank you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: for recruiting more listeners to.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: The show, bringing families together.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate that.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: Nice. Congrats sixteen.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: And oh, I mean that's obviously you can't do no
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: better than that. Not bad, not bad, not even.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: You did better than that over there, Missy.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know how I did.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, you did very well again.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: Fun facts is Dano in Chicago When I was a
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: freshman at Wellesley High. I'm pretty sure Paul coach baseball there. Personally,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: it's correct, I played lacrosse. Shout out to my old
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: lacrosse coach, Chris Galinas.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: Oh I remember, I remember remember Chris Galinas? Yes, I do.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: You guys hung out so teacher's lounge to.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah smoking, Yeah, no, so it must have been like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: the mid nineties.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I was there from ninety three to
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: ninety seven.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: You ever think about getting back into you know, higher
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: level coaching the college or you know college.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: They're probably not going to give a college job to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: someone who hasn't coached in twenty years, right.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: A smaller college maybe.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: No, I'd need some money. That's a lot of work.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of work.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: But like I do it in high school. What like
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: I would I would absolutely be interested.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: In What about when you retire?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, I would.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: I would be interested in getting like a like a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: high school baseball job out my way.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: I would absolutely be interested in that.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: So a couple of years ago, H Fenwick was between
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: baseball coaches and it had been a while the guy
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: had left, and it was like six or seven months
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: had gone by and there'd been no announcement over the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: new coach.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: So I talked to the athletic director.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Whose kids played with my you know, so you know
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: we know that we know I knew them. It wasn't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: just like some rando like athletic director. And I said, hey,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: you know, and they had decided pretty much on a guy.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: And I was like, well, he goes, why were you interested?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: And I was like, well, yes, and no, I told
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: him the whole story. I was like, I have experienced
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: coach in high school and I would have been glad
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: I just don't think I could do it.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Quote unquote right, Like, if you're doing it right, you
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: should be helping these kids. Like if if you have
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: good players, like you should be helping them get looks
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: in college. You should be sort of beating the AAU
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: pats and trying to get them and you know, get
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: them in front of people, scouts and whatnot. And like
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not in that game right now. So like could
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: I coach the baseball team?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: Absolutely?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: And you know, Fred, I don't lack for confidence. I
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: think I could do it better than most, But I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: don't have, like I think, all the other stuff that
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: you really need to be a really good high school coach.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe you should get help somebody to help you do that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if I were retired and I had
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: time to invest in it, what.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: A service to help the kids. And you do the coaching.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: So if you, I know you dying to get rid
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: of me, because you often talk about what I should
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: be doing other than what I'm doing now, maybe if
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: you gave me a little bit more to wet my beak,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: I would be willing to retire a little bit earlier.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Do you ever think of it that way?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Well, we'd all love that, we'd all love that. No,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: I just I like to see people happy. So when
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: Brian Morey, for example, he was way you know, he was.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: He had a good job with us at the Hall,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: you know, making decent money.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: But he had this opportunity to.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Go back to high school be the head baseball coach
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: actually in the town that I live now coincidentally, uh
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: and you know, teach you how to teach a little.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: He's also a full time teacher. That's what he's made.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: You made the job now, but obviously, but he quit
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: here to become a teacher. He quit here to become
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: the baseball coach, right.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: But he also had a job as a teacher. So
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: if well, I can't, I'm not qualified for that.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Neither was he. He figured it out.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: He got certified.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 13: You can do that too.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: I can't do that even masters.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: First of all, he had two years, and he had
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: up to two years to get certified, so you don't
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: have to be certified on day one, and he got
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: it done.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: I told you.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: I did talk to Fenwick also about maybe teaching an
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: elective or something.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think maybe more.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: Like a sports media clash or something like that. An elective,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: not like one, not anything real.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: You would run the school paper.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what are you going to call the school paper?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Brian?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: Brian took the leap, he got the job, and he
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: taught mass media or something like that.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he sent me a syllabus.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and and so then we're talking. Now he's moved on.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: Now he's the head coach in Wark in Rhode Island.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: His it's it's Pilgrim, right, Pilgrim. I think, yeah, that's his.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: But that's great, Like he's feelings something he really loves,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: not that we don't all love our generation.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Ready, I've thought about it a lot, in all seriousness,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: like you're not off.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: I could see myself coaching a tennis team, high school
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: tennis team.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, that would be great.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: We would love that.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: I could see you both as coaches.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: I loved coaching high school baseball. I was probably a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: little too young.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 9: Did you do when your boys were in high school?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 9: This way before then?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: This is the nineties.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 12: I want your more athletes to reach out.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: I did it at Wellesley High and we were really good.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: I coached the JB team and I was the assistant
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: varsity coach. My classic story is we're playing in the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: tournament varsity down at Dighton Rehoboth back to Andy Hart's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: Dyton Rehoboth days, and we were getting absolutely screwed big
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: shock by the amps all day.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And there was a call.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Like in the fifth or sixth inning and another one
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: that went against us, and the coach just grabs me
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: by like the like he went crazy.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: He was like, and he grabs me.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: By the he goes go out there and get tossed.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: So you don't have to tell me that. So I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: went out and I lost my ever loving mind. Yeah,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: and I culminated with first there was a play at
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: second base and I looked at my second basement and said,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: did you get him?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: And he goes, yeah, I got him.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: And he was like the nicest, sweetest kid. So I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: knew he wasn't lying to me, so I knew we
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: were right. And I looked at him, I go, are
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: you from Dighton or Rehoboth?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: You can leave now that it was a good line.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: That's a good one.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: Was that your only ejection?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: No more?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't my only ejection. Was it's my only
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: high school but my only high school ejection?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: Now I also coaching the JV team. I was the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: only coach.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't have an assistant, and we used to get
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of the same umpires game after game, and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: they really liked me, which was ironic because I gave
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: them such a hard time. And this is why I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: say I was probably a little too young to be
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: doing it at the time. I didn't I never kept
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: my emotions in check. And I can't tell you. There's
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: one guy in particularly he goes I would have thrown
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: you out of so many games if you just had
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: anybody over there as an assistant. But I didn't want
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: to leave those kids without a coach. And I just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: like just said, he's hard in his mind.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going to let him go.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: What would have happened, like you.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Just probably would play the game out or maybe they
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: would have to be a forfeit because the coach is thrown.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: And the guy like the same guy, he was the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: nicest guy. I would talk to these guys before the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: game and it'd be like, hey, yeah, you know, like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: and I would apologize for the previous.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: Game, like I'm sorry that it again, and then it
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: would just happen again.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: He can't help himself, he can't help I couldn't that's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: why it was on video. I know.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: Oh my god. You know who actually saw one of
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: these in person?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Oh Felger? Oh really, yeah, Felger went to one of
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: the games. Really and he goes, I couldn't believe it.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: Why was he there to like support, No, it was
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: just like we were.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know exactly why he went back
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: when he was a human. But when we were in uh,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: you know, we were working at the Herald together and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: he was like, oh, I gotta watch I gotta watch
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: one of the yeah himself, and.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: I like lost my mind.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: I would show up for your coaching debut.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Joseph Pennsylvania.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 20: Hey Joe, Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. And
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 20: I really just want to talk about that, uh that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 20: second down play where we threw on it instead of run,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 20: instead of ran for it at the end yep to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 20: burn the clock now on that play, and I just
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 20: want to say, like, imagine if we completed that pass
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 20: and we got that first down, Like I forget how
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 20: many timeouts the Dolphins had or you know, exact time
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 20: on there, but that was basically would have been the game, right,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 20: and that would have been a that would have looked
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 20: like a more of a demanding win. So just think
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 20: about how close we were to that. But but the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 20: play in general, you know, that was going to mac
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 20: Hollins there, and Jack Jones was really cover him. He
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 20: was tight on him underneath Jack Jones was almost like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 20: trying for that interception. They're like baiting the pass in there.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 20: Is was mac Hollins really the guy that we wanted
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 20: right there? Or was that just more of a good
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 20: play by Jack Jones? And because, like what Evan said
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 20: the other day, like we signed Stefan Diggs not for
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 20: not for like these big yardage games right before those
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 20: for those guinea those gotta have it moments. So it's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 20: like it's was it more so the play design that
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 20: it was made for going to going to Hallins? Like
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 20: like I.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Said, in other words, number one eight target, Yeah, I
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: would like I don't want to say this definitively without
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: having seen you know, like Evan and Mike when they
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: watched the Coaches tape and the All twenty two. But
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: my guess is it was a one man route and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: what you're hoping for there is to trick the other team.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: You know, you're given a little it's a second and eight,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: you're running the clock out. They are expecting to run.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Rabelhead explains that the corners had been slamming down from
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: the outside and they did so in the previous play.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: They're hoping to give the same look as the same run,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna have you bite on it. And to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Jack Jones's credit, he didn't bite on it. He stayed
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: close enough to Hollins. I think he might have gotten
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: away with a little hold on the play, but close
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: enough that he stayed competitive. It was kind of like
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: the touchdown that Hollands caught, Like you're giving them a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: look like you're gonna run the ball. He's slamming down,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: you're running a little little play action look, little boot.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: And I give Jack Jones credit, he played it reasonably well.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: I love the idea of throwing the ball. I think
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: that's the.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: Best way to try to get that first down to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: run the clockout is to throw the ball, and that's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: the down you throw it on.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, early, don't be as scary.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 20: How often do you see the other team run like
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 20: the team runs it in the situation they're three runs
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 20: and they all get one yard run right?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Quite often and then the team gets it.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 20: Back with forty five seconds left anyways.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Right, That's why I say, you know, thanks Joe. I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: would rather try to get the first down and give
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: them a little more time. If I don't get it,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: then run the ball into the line three times and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: just hope. I mean there's different situations. If you know,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: if if the Dolphins had no timeouts, as an example,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: I would have just run it three times and let
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: the clock go down as far as I can and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: you know, be satisfied that maybe they have fifteen seconds left,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: but knowing they're going to as Joe just said, they
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: were going to have whatever amount of time anyway, right
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: because they were going to call timeouts.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the best way to do it.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: Well, Martin out of Kansas, it looks like the Steelers
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: interior O lineman just went down with a torn MCL.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: Seems the injury bug is still on that team. Got
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: a lot of Steeler fans at my job. There seems
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: to be doom and gloom about their attitude right now.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a more and it's a backup lineman, Max
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: sharping he towards ACL I guess in practice, but yeah,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: they have gotten a lot of injuries early in the season,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: and I think it's impacted the defense. You're missing that
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: amount of personnel. I think it's going to have an impact.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see jack In and Arbor talking about arguments, said,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: you want you need an argument.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: What is the position of each member of.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: The PU team on whether the Pats selected the right
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: quarterback when they drafted Drake May.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: Can we argue that?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think there's an argument. I
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: don't think any of us.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: You guys know how much I love Drake May in
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: that draft.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm just going back at the time.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think any of us were like, oh my god,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: they should have taken I traded up to take Jaden
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: Daniels or whatever.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: I'd still take him over Jayden and Daniels, even though
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels has accomplished far more. Right, That's how much
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: I liked Drake May coming out of the draft.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I wasn't you were you like Caleb Williams,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: And I think if they had taken Caleb Williams.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have taken Caleb Williams one, but he wasn't.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: An option, right, He wasn't available, right, But.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: I still like Caleb Williams, and I think if we
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: were in I think I think he's fixable because I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: think the things that he lacks is more mental leadership
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. It's more intangible stuff that he needs
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: to improve. Physically, I think he sees the field reasonably well.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: He's a great athlete and he can throw. He can't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: do the other stuff. He can't seem to be a
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: good teammate, you know, And I think that's fixable. I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: think you can sort of develop that now. Maybe he
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: never will, but yeah, I don't.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: I don't pull the plug.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: On him yet the way so many others are quick
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: to do, you know, much like JJ McCarthy after one
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: good quarter or football, they should have drafted him over
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: Drake May last week when I was in Felgrim, Mass.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: No one asked me this week at felgrinm Maz if
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: they should have drafted J. J.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: McCarthy instead of Drake May. That didn't come up this week.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: He didn't come up.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: No, it came up last week. It didn't come up
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: this week.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Did you bring it up?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I meant to come on, No, But when you watch
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: Caleb Williams that the talent is evident.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: It's evident. He just needs coaching.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: And I think if Ben Jonson is what a lot
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: of people think he is, I think he might fix
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: him of this stuff. You know, it's just it's just
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: starting out. It's just a couple of you know, it's
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: two games into his second year. I'm not I think
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: there's too much talent there to just say he'll never
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: do it and it gets an easy out.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, doesn't look good so far. I'll admit that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: So Dan and Virginia and Michigan. Subject line is injury calculus.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: What's the injury calculus like with regards to playing Gonzales
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: this week rather than next week? By that, I mean,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: is there a lower chance Gonzales plays this week because
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: the opponent is better, especially in their receivers, and thus
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: there is more work required of the secondary, whereas if
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: they were playing the Panthers, it would be an easier
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: day theoretically, and they could ease in Gonzales a bit more.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: I don't think that that has anything to do with it.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: Maybe he's right.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: I would guess that the calculus is he he needs
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: more than a week of practice before he gets back.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: On the game field. Yeah, I think he's healthy now.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but do they feel like he needs six days
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: of practice instead of three days of practice to be
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: ready to play in a game after being out for
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: almost what eight weeks?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: That to me is the calculus. Yeah, do you guys?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when's he ready?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Because I don't think he'd be back on the practice
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: field if he wasn't healthy enough to be on the
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: practice field. So I think from a health standpoint, he
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: could play Sunday. But I kind of agree with Fred.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: Would you put it at like forty? I put it
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: at twenty five five percent.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: I think I put it at forty. I agree with
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: you guys.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: It's probably unlikely because he missed so much time. They
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna be ready like to play in
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: an NFL game, But I think physically he probably.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: Could do it.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: Tyler has a prediction game. It's called call me now
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: for your free reading. Which of the pair of news
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: headlines below is more likely to happen after the season
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: is over?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, got me now for your prereading.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Pat's League league in sacks with four players having twelve
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: plus each, or Pats send two rookies to the Pro Bowl.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: Pat send two rookies to the Pro Bowl.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, Pat's proved Gonzo isn't needed by season's end. Or
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: Hunter Henry passes Russ Francis with third most te touchdowns.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: He's currently nine behind.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry passes Okay.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: Ben Johnson is out after one season in Chicago. Or
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: Kellen Moore wins Coach of the Year in New Orleans
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: More wins Coach of the Yeah, I think that's more likely.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: Uh Kurse retires to replace by Tom e Kerrn or
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: Perillo reached a settlement with team after years of stagnant pay.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: Retires.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Probably Curse retires because there's no way I'm getting anything.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: And finally, Eric Scalavino's new book climbs to the New
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: York Times bestseller list.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Or Andy Hart leads a vegan movement in Boston.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: I gotta go with Eric there.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 9: Unless Andy did it sarcastically.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: Actually, I could see. I could see Andy all of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: a sudden becoming a vegan.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys, just the kind of trendy, like, oh, it's.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 9: Cool, the vegan movements not trend impossible.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: Burgers are good, but that's now.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 9: It's the grass fed meat movement, carnivor movement.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: And he would do it for a year and then
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: he would quit and get bored of it. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I could see that.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: Gavin wants to know who do you think has the
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: coaching edge? This week we talked about that. I think
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: yesterday I.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: Think it's a wash. Yeah, they're both good coaches. I
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: think they have good staffs. You know.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: I think Arthur Smith is a former head coach who's
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator. Josh McDaniels is a former head coach
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: who's Patriots offensive coordinator.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: I think it's a wash.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: Colin Farrozzi writes in do you think at some point
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: Zach Corer would be named interim d C assistant d
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: C if Terrell Williams situation continues.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: I don't have enough information there to know not, but
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: I've thought about it. I don't know what Terrell Williams
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: is long term. Yeah, you know, when I say long term,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: I mean within this season. You know, prognosis is well today,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: Prognosi right. I just don't have enough information.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: So we're waiting for Deuce to come back because we've
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: got to start picks. But I don't want to start
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: without him.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: All right, why don't we give it another like three
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: or four minutes, and if he doesn't come back, we'll
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: have to start. We do have to hurry, especially if
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: you know we only have three of us.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Well, she's waiting for her flowers.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: You too, guy, don't sell yourself, shout.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: William writes in got plenty of emails, though.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: I'm the only one who's completely useless.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: Perillo's points was mentioned by an email or last show.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: In the sixth grade in twenty ten, I would watch
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: Parrillo's Points every Friday on my dial up Internet to
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: get Paul's prediction for the game to decrease my chances
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: of crying if they would lose on Sunday. They lost
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: to the Jets in the divisional round that year. That
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: soon followed years of watching the old PFWTV and the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: trash Talk segment with Andy and Paul. Finally, when I
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: went to college, I became a regular listener. In twenty eighteen, Mike,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: that was the last time the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Now,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: almost ten years later, I'm seeing my first game in
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: person this Sunday with my wife against the Steelers.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, So that's what you call the pyramid of fandom.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, start down here, start to go up, and finally
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: you get to that where you're at the game, actually
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: at the game spending money.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: That was sobering to listen to. In this what do
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: you say the sixth grade?
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: They sound like they're as old as I am.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: He was in the sixth grade when I was giving,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: and he would he would watch the three points just
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: to get the prediction.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: Used to be a when it started five points, there
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: was two offense, two defense, and then a prediction. Then
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: I went down to three, so it was one offense,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: one defense in a prediction.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 9: Taking your airtime away.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: David writes in today's is twenty fourth birthday from Madrid.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: Happy birthday. How do you say happy birthday in Spanish?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: At least okay, at least cooplianos nailed. I want to
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: thank you guys and cash twenty two because you guys
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: are the reason I started to become an NFL fan.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: I come from a Red Sox family, but not a
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: real football one.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: So okay, So there you go.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 9: Another through the game.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: The biggest question is the following with the Steelers being
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: a man to man and blitzing team. Are we going
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: to see a lot of screens from McDaniels also, Well,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: we see more of Marty Mapoo Marte mar Pooh this
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: week because since he got one of the honorary balls
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: last week.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: Or is that reading too much into it?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: With ellison splane being underwhelming these first two weeks, yeah, you.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: Could see a little more of ma Poo. But he
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: mean he had a big mistackle too.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: However he was we just had that clutch interception, right, Yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: With the big issue, we think being tight ends, could
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: Mapoo be an answer or at least try to be
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: an answer for them.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: A little bit bigger and more mobile.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: Yep, you know, with some coverage, some experience as a
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of a safety linebacker hybrid.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, you guys sold me on it.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, Barton poland Paul is right.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: With Gonzo looking like he could be back, Steelers facing
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: a ton of injuries in the defense, Burrow set to
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: miss at least three months, meaning he will also miss
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: the game with us. Paul saying that it always works
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: out for the Patriots looks as true as ever.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: Be nice to get that back into vogue.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yep.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: I mean that was trending for a while. Basically from
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: like one through nineteen inclusive. Spread everything worked out.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Everything worked out for the Patriots, from the weather on down.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: It always said, it always works out for the Patriots.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 12: It's like that Family Guy episode where like Peter Griffin
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 12: makes a deal with I don't know if he makes
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 12: a deal with the devil or with God, but he
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 12: gets Belichick to smile and then he's like, Okay, the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 12: Patriots are like protected.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Now that's what people thought.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: Kraft had a dealt Belichick had a weather machine.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that Ernie Adams controlled it right, all right? Spin
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: the dial, Stacy. I could be wrong because I don't
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: watch as much, so please correct me. But the Steelers
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: seem to often lean on those safety coverages behind their
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: pressure looks with high Smith out especially, would you agree
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: that the Patriots should just run the ball down their
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: throats to set up more play action?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: Look?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Sorry, worried.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Devin Henry, Hey, Mike what it kind of feels like
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: that's the spirit of the song.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, this is back from the locker room.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, sorry, I tried to get back quick. We
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: not a lot of interviews going on there. Uh in
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: there today, but uh you know quick ones with with
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: Jared Wilson and Milton Williams who lovely Alex had a
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 7: chance to talk to you yesterday as well. Yeah, there
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: weren't uppers today, so they got their shoulder pads. That's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: what they call paul right, when you just wear the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: shoulder pads and not the lower.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: They have the regular shoulder pads or.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: The regular shoulder not the Yeah, I know they had
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 7: the big boys on so maybe they get a little
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: physical today, but I know we got picks. Not a
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: lot to take away from the locker room today. Everybody
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: seemed pretty ready to get out there again. I'm trying
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: to get Robert splain, but he's been getting out there
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 7: pretty quick. I'd like to hear from him, but nothing
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: so far.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: And he was go Zalis.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Still Gonzalez look actually suck kee on white in the
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: locker room.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: That's probably a good note to make. He was in
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: the locker room today, saw him walking out then. I'm
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: not sure if he's going out and with the shoulder pads,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: so he might still be limited, but probably good sign.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: He was in the locker room, okay.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: And I saw Gonzo in there as well, So yeah,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 7: hopefully link the injury report.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully those guys are able to go.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: Sounds good, all right, it is that time of the week.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, what happened last week?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: So Fred, you took the challenge last week. Didn't want
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: to let our girl Alex just walk away with it,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: so you both went thirteen and three, which is so
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: would work? Continuing the solid work be Mike and Evan
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: at eleven and five. Nothing nothing to sneeze at their
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: good solid record, all.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Like chicken chicken fingers.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: Paul was seven. No further further.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: With the spread, as Fred likes to say, where the
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: men separated.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: From the boys or the women from the girls.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: Correct Bred eleven and five with the spread good number
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: one spread. Evan ball noer ten and six, followed by
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: Alex at seven and nine. You gotta pick it up
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: a little bit, okay, spread Mike six and ten.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: And Paul went and eleven. You're gonna get your ever
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: at I D card taken away.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: So these these numbers are not pretty for me.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: I have completely lost my feel for the league. The
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: overall through week two standings, this is pretty impressive. Alex
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: twenty seven and five, that's a good records. Damn Fred,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: you get flowers too, twenty six and six, Nipping at
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: the heels Mike, Mike twenty three and nine. On a
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: normal year, that would be right in the money.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: But or on one of your shows.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: Evan twenty and twelve, Paul seventeen and fifteen, woween fifteen.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: I'm just going to go to my one here for
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: a second.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: I want to apologize to the emailer who in the
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: sixth grade used to listen into three points with Perillo
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: just to get a prediction from me.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 6: I'm just killing everybody.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: This seventeen and fifteen is completely unacceptable. Changes will be
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: made if things do not change quickly, bottoms of that record.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: So promise, I'll just make this promise to all of
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: you right now.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: I will be better. I will do better.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: Next show we have Matisa's going to say that we
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: relegate all for one episode.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: With the Spread put him down to Catch twenty teen,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: Fred Spread nineteen and thirteen leads the way. Everybody's kind
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: of struggling with the Spread Alex and Evans sixteen and sixteen,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: followed by Mike at fourteen and eighteen.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: I No Balls eleven and twenty one.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: Even how you going to pay for college?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: Wow?
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Not by gambling?
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: Why I'm driving around twenty thirteen hundred cord with two
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty thousand miles on it and a rejection
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: sticker out?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: But this is a good Why is where it's all going.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: This is a good sign for the Patriots that that
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: I'm doing so well because we are SpotCo mesh all right.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: Tonight eight fifteen on Prime Video is the zero and
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: two Dolphins against the two and zero Bills.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: The Bills are favored by twelve and a half. And
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: the only question I have is this the final game
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: is Miami Dolphins head coach for Mike McDaniel.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: That's going a lot, isn't it? A little bit of him?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's on the road. Buffalo has owned Miami.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 7: You just lost a tough last minute game to a league,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: you know, division rival, and now you've got to go
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 7: play one.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Of the best in the league.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's why people are thinking it's probably going
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: to be the last game for him, because they just
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: lost to the Patriots.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it so it's more about the Patriots, And then
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: it's just this is a really big ass to go
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: up the Buffalo and know your careers on the line.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 7: You gotta beat Josh Allen. That's going a lot. I
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: got Buffalo alay the points.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: It is his last game, Buffalo Buffalo.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, normally I would take the points in a Thursday
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: night game, but I can't.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, frankly, I'm that close in terms of
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: the points. I'm going to go both ways.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: Three for being home.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. I've heard it's true.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: It's really only a nine and a half point.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm going both ways with Buffalo as well.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for a blood bath. But you never know.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: Do you think Miami has any fighting them or do
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 7: you think they're just waiting to waiting to pack it in.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't think that they showed a tremendous amount of
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: fight in the game. I know that they got back,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: you know, off the mat, and they executed a little
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: bit better, But I didn't really think that they showed
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of fight in the game last week either. No,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think that they'll have much now. But Thursday
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: night games can be funny sometimes. You know, the team
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: Buffalo's probably spent short week, Miami's reeling. We always beat
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: them at home, especially you know, never.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: Know, or as Parcels would put out the mouse traps
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: for this game, you'd hang them from this and take
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: the cheese, and take the cheese.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Take the cheese.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: You're gonna Those are the kind of stories you're gonna
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: tell them Saturday, we might.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Remember used to say, don't take the cheese.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: That was cool, that was awesome.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: We moved to Sunday at one on Fox. The one
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 5: on one Falcons are at the oh and two Panthers.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: Atlanta by five and a half.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I could division game. I'm gonna take Atlanta and
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 7: this one I'll lay the points.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna take Atlanta.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 12: Carolina's made games like kind of close and then ultimately lose.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: I'll give Carolina the points.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: I am gonna do the same as Alex because she's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: leading the contest, so I'm just gonna cheat off of
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: her picks.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: What was the number again?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: Five and a half?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, Atlanta, I'll take to win, but I'll take Carolina
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: to cover its back to a cover for the Panthers
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: last ye.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the reason why I'm doing well is because of
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: this Panthers both ways.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, wow, so be riding high coming here next week.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you gotta have You.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: Know, you're not in first place, alex Is just I
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: am against the spread.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: It's different.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: That's all that counts you.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she picked the same as you with the spread. Okay,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: you picked them to win.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm winning against the spread.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: But you're a game behind.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, not against the spread.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: That's what counts.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: See to the caller wants me to like chime in
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 7: and break up this magic, like let them work, like,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 7: just let them cook, let's do it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 6: You don't want to hear me?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: Am I bad?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 13: Sixteen?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: The two and oh Packers are at the zero to two.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Brown Packers might be playing the best of any team
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: so far through two weeks.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: They are favored by eight and a half.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah they are.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know what though, I'm gonna I I just
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 7: I can't get out of my head. Jordan Love just
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 7: has some ups and downstill. I'm not ruling to say
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: like he's fully arrived just yet. I'm going to take
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 7: green Bay to win, but I'm gonna take the Cleveland points.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 7: Tough defense, maybe a little bit of a sloppy day
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 7: from the green Bay offense.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 12: Cleveland cover is tempting, but I am riding with green
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 12: Bay both ways until they give me a reason to not.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with Mike, even though Mike's not
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: doing very well with the spread. I'm gonna take green
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: Bay to win. They're much better team than Cleveland. But
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: I agree the Browns defense is pretty good, and I
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: think that they'll slow down.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: The Packers a little bit. I'll take the cover.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, Brown's cover.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: Packers win one o'clock on CBS. I went two Texans
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: at the one and one Jaguars.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 6: Jacksonville by two and a half.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't really catch much of that Jacksonville Bengals game.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: A game that Jacksonville probably should have won. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: I know they feel like got a.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: Bad pass in affarance call on Travis Hunter too.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I feels like there's some they're spinning their ros
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: a little bit. I'm gonna I'm gonna take Jacksonville to win.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Not sure what's up with Nick Keyley and c J. Stroud.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: Same same problems as they had last year. Yeah, offensive
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: line is not good. Jaggs, Jaggs, you know, I'm gonna
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: take Houston to win outright.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: Wow, Okay, why seventeen and fifteen and eleven and twenty.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, but that that that's a courageous pick. I'm gonna
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: take Jaguars both ways one o'clock at CBS, the two
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: and zero Benk goals are at the one and one.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: Vikings Minnesota by three. Right, So we battle of backup quarter.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: Carson Wentz against Jake what's his name around Browning?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Browning?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 7: Uh Man, There's a lot of factors that work here.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 7: You know what, I'm gonna go Cincy on the road.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: I just I'm gonna lean slightly towards Jake Browning over
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: Carson Wentz saw I'm interviewed today. Don't really seem like
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 7: he's he's been up the speed just yet. So I'll
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 7: take Cincy, give me the points.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna take Minnesota at home both ways.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to take Cincinnati as well.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: And it is for what Mike said, I think more
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: of Browning than I do Wentz at this stage. I
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: saw her stat today on Carson Wentz He's going to
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: become the first player NFL history to start six straight
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: years for six different teams.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 6: Wow, that quarterback. I didn't look it up. So I
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 6: don't know if it's true, but everything you've read on
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 6: the internet is true.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, we'll just go with it.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: Taking the Vikings for obvious reasons. I hate the Bengals,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: but I do.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: It's obvious. You don't have to tell everybody.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: I was impressed by the Bengals winning last week. I
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: have to give it to them.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that was quarterback ye running a great quote like,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 12: how do you kind of like keep the right mindset
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 12: through the game?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: He was like, I'm delusional, Yeah, but I'm really rooting
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: hard for the Vikings there. They don't look too good though.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: One o'clock on Fox, the two and oh Rams at
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: the two and oh Eagles.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: One of the best days. This is a one o'clock game.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big, big one o'clock slate this week.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: So this this game is the Rams are at Philadelphia.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: The Rams are at Philadelphia.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: Paul, Okay, Well, I wrote it down wrong, and I thing,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: and that's very rare for me.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: Well three and a half, three and a half, all right,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Paul's guy, Matthew Stafford.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I think I think the Rams have what it takes
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: to knock off Philly. Pull off an upset. I'm gonna
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: go with the upset Rams.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 12: I'm going to take Philly at home, but I think
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 12: the Rams make it a close one in cover.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take Philly both ways.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: I do think the Rams they probably played Philadelphia as well.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, they definitely played them better than anybody in
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: the playoffs last year, but they had a pretty close
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: game in the regular season as well. I just think
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: the Eagles are a little bit better, and I think
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: at home they'll they'll cover.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: I agree, but the Eagles don't cover on the Okay, Yeah,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: gives me a chance.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: Yep, it gives me a chance to pick up a
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 6: game with the spread.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: There one o'clock on Fox, the zero to two Jets
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: are at the two and zero Buccaneers.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: Let's see Baker is baking with a seven point favorite
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: and seven point.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Justin fields out.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 7: Tyrod Taylor is part Taylor who probably has a record
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: He looks for a lot of three yard passes. Yeah,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: I all interceptions.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 7: I won't apologize for last week because I said in
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 7: the picks that I thought CJ.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Straut was better than Baker Mayfield.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: I think I've been scarred by watching Baker Mayfield play
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 7: here in a joint practice and listen to me, and that's.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: All you have to than Baker Mayfield.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: I mean not maybe not right at the moment. I
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: don't know that I'm gonna take Tampa. I won't make
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 7: that mistake again. I'm gonna lay the seven points for
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 7: the Jets for sure, Tampa Tampa.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 6: I will take Tampa, but I will take the points.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, me too. That's an easy one. Close to a lot,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: but not quite.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: Sunday at one CBS, the two and oh cults are
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: at the oh and two Titans.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: Ind by four and a half on the road four
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: and a half.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, just you love to see it.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: I love the chaos of the league punts. I mean,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 7: I just I love when something like this happens and
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 7: it turns all your conventional wisdom about quarterbacking on its
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: head and all that.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: Much like coaching matters, it does well.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep the train wrolling. DJ I'm
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 7: gonna lay the points too against Tennessee.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, I am gonna take the Colts, but I
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: will take the points. I think the Colts might have
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: been as Fred likes to say, smelling their farts all
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: the week and you know, feeling good about themselves and
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: they are on the road division game.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: I'll take the points.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Titans outright, Yeah, I just I can't
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: live with the three and oh Colts.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: That's that's poor to me, weird.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: Musa be so hard to have all that hate in
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: one head.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Sunday at one, the one and one Raiders are
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: at the one in one Commanders.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 6: Commanders by three with no Jaden Daniels.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's uh.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: Marcus Mario too, this is another one.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: I'm scarred because, like I see Geno Smith come here
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: and just have his way with the.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: Patriots to watch them, and he's never had a football
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: in his hands before.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 7: I just don't get it. You know, I'm gonna take shoot.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: I think I'm gonna have to go back. Man, this
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: is a really hard one. Who's this backup for Washington?
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: Mat Marcus Mario might want to pay attention when I
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: give you information.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 7: Oh man, that's why she's leading the picks.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Vegas. I don't feel great
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: about it, though.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: Vegas, you say so, Yeah, I'm going to do it too.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to pick Vegas. Gino Smith's better than he
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: played last week. He'll bounce back.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: Brady in the booth. He be in the booth for
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: But I am going to take the Raiders to win
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: the game. This is part of the Commanders. Let's really
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: strength fall back to Earth from last year.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: We predicted that, Uh, we did predict it, but I
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily have predicted that Jade Daniels wasn't going to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: be It's.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: Tough to win in the NFL.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: And you know, all right now we skip over the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: Patriots at one o'clock and we moved to four oh five.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: This must be a typo. The Broncos are on the
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: road for the second week in a row at the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Chargers one in one, Broncos two and oh.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: Chargers the lack by two and a half.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting line. Uh. This is a good game.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a good Uh, this is a
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: good red zone game. Paul watching Justin Herbert that I.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: Really bummed out that the Rams and Eagles are at
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: one o'clock. That would have been prime red zone for me.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta go with Justin Herbert. He's playing too
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: good right now. I'll lay the points.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 9: Chargers, Chargers.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a spot where the Chargers typically would
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: like stumble when everybody's like.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: Oh, they've they've.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: Turned the corner. They're a good team now. But I'm
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna put some faith in them. I think
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: Herbert looks a little different to me.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: And this is year two of Harbaugh. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: a big deal, right, it's a big deal.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 5: I think they take the Chargers four oh five on
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: CBS oh and two Saints at the one and one Seahawks.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Saints have been a little frisky, even though the winless
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: uh Seattle by seven seven.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 7: I don't think is gonna be frisky in Seattle. I'll
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 7: take Seattle all lay the points.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 9: I'll take Seattle. I'll give them New Orleans points.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with my.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I A I'm trying to hed I'm trying to
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 9: hedge you.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: I do think at Seattle tough when you're not used
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: to playing there. I'll take Seattle both ways. I do
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: think New Orlean's been a little yeah risky though.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe teams are underestimating them a little bit. I
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm gonna take Seahawks both ways too.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: For twenty five on Fox, the one in one Cowboys
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: are at the zero to two.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: Bears Dallas by one and a half, and I wouldn't
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: be surprised if it's dallash Wow, as Colin Coward might.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: This one flipped for us.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Chicago teams got it wrong.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chicago have another one wrong.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 7: Ben Johnson saying that they don't practice with championship habits
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 7: just yet.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I think that continues another week. I'm gonna take Dallas
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: lay the point and a half.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 6: I like Dallas too, so I don't really like anybody
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: in this game.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna take Chicago because I think the Cowboys
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: defense is wretchedly bad and I think Ben Johnson might
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: be able to take advantage of that. I'm gonna take
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: Chicago to get their first.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Win the Bears.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: I'm taking the Bears to beat the Cowboys just because I.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: Want them to.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I watch highlights of that Russell Wilson throwing
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: for four hundred and fifty yards against that defense, Like
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: that's bad.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: Four on Fox, the two and oh Cardinals at the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: two and oh forty nine Ers, Big Division matchup.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, San fran By two and a half.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: Good, good game, Mac Jones rolling getting a lot of
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: love if he's playing.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: Oh really, so you think they said Purdy has a
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: chance to play.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Those Matt Jones like poisoning his food right now?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: Lordy.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there's been an update today, but
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: the last I heard there was a chance.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty good play.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 7: I do like Arizona, and I feel like somebody owns
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 7: somebody in this one, Paul.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe now I'm gonna go San Francisco at home.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: I think you're right, because that's where the division of
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 4: ownership is the NFC West.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 6: But I don't know what the answer.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Are always weird. What was this bet on the two
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: and a half Arizona?
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no and a half?
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Come on, it flipped on my poor sheet. Your sheet
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: is never Arizona was.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: Favored on the road.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 9: A little print out for us?
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but where do you get it?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: So I Google it's print your brackets dot com.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, did you go to DraftKings.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: They don't have a principal break and printable. I've been
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: used this for years and I'm gonna print your brackets stock.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 12: This is a coin flip one especially with Purty kind
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  Speaker 12: of up in the air.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, s Francisco.
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  Speaker 12: I guess Paul looks bewildered right now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just looking some stuff up just to make sure
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  Speaker 4: I didn't do things up. I am also going to
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  Speaker 4: take the Niners. I think they're a better team. I
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  Speaker 4: do think the Cardinals have improved. I think Gannon has
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  Speaker 4: you know, got them going the right direction. But I'll
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  Speaker 4: take the Niners.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers as well.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Sunday Night, eight twenty on NBC in Universo.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, the two Chiefs at the oh and two Giants.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, the Chiefs by six. Great, great night game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great game.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Kansas City and I'm gonna lay the points.
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  Speaker 7: I think they get started in New York.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Kansas City.
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  Speaker 12: I think this is a must win for morale for them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Chiefs defense gets it done. I'll
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  Speaker 4: take Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, but I'll be rooting hard for the Giants. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's one of those games where you just
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  Speaker 2: have to pick.
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  Speaker 6: The Chiefs again. So much hate such.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely come on, now, that's that's what makes it fun.
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  Speaker 2: Paul you have to have a reason to run against
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  Speaker 2: the team.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, some might say it would be fun to root
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  Speaker 6: for somebody to.
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  Speaker 1: Root for the Patriots for lost roots.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I root for the Patriots and I root against
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  Speaker 2: everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: Monday Night, eight fifteen ESPN, ABC, ESPN two, ESPN Deportes
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: the one and one Lions at the one and one Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: Now this, now, this is that's a man.
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  Speaker 6: Baltimore by four and a half. That's a good matchup.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that is a good matchup. I look forward watching that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to take Baltimore at home. I will lay
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: the point. Lamar gets it done.
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  Speaker 9: I love Baltimore. I will take them to win.
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  Speaker 12: However, I think Detroit ramped it up a little last week.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: Give them the rampant.
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  Speaker 4: I am going to go with deuce and I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to say the Ravens at home win, maybe by two scores.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm game to hedge my bet for the possible
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: Lions win, which I think could very well happen. I
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: will take the points, but the Ravens went at home,
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  Speaker 5: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Now we move back to one o'clock on CBS, the
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  Speaker 2: one and one Steelers at the one and one.
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  Speaker 6: Patriots Pittsburgh by one and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question here, I'm going Patriots. I'll take that
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: point and a half. It's just you know history. I
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: think New One has got some momentum. I expect Pittsburgh
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: to be better. I don't think it's going to be
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: an easy game, but.
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  Speaker 7: I think they'll get after Aaron Rodgers, They'll get enough pressure,
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  Speaker 7: and I think they'll score enough points.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Patriots twenty three to seventeen.
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  Speaker 12: Home Dogs Patriots twenty seven, Steelers twenty one.
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  Speaker 6: I also like the Patriots in this game.
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  Speaker 4: Those injuries I don't think are a joke for Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's been a big part of their
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: problem defensively, and that's their identity is defense. I don't
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: think they have a high powered offense, so I'm not
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: worried about them having to get into a shootout. Think
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: the Patriots win this one at home. Fred gets the
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: home win he's been looking for. Twenty three to twenty
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  Speaker 4: New England.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Alex and I are in the same page in
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  Speaker 5: terms of the Patriots points twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with.
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  Speaker 6: That Pittsburgh is zero h No.
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh manages seventeen, So twenty seven to seventeen, Patriots win
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  Speaker 5: two on one baby with Carolina coming to town.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: We're on a roll, all right, and we're out of time.
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  Speaker 5: So thank you everybody for watching, listening.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Have a good weekend.
• 1:59:35
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• 1:59:39
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so tune in for that.
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• 1:59:51
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